| mlankhorst | tjaalton: ping? | 07:36 |
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| mlankhorst | oh nm I'll just send you a pull request, always wanted to do one of those | 07:38 |
| mlankhorst | RAOF: if you merge something please do it properly ;) | 07:52 |
| mlankhorst | try git diff c44dd5f11702cfc07f828d7f4716dc9cb7d257d0...ubuntu in libdrm | 07:52 |
| mlankhorst | tjaalton: I updated xf86-input-wacom in your tree | 08:28 |
| mlankhorst | bryceh/RAOF: evdev done, wacom done, synaptics done, xserver-xorg-video-all (minus geode) done. Xorg server ready, let her rip? | 09:41 |
| mlankhorst | I'll give the geode thing a shot first | 09:42 |
| RAOF | mlankhorst: Yeah, that was actually deliberate. | 10:02 |
| mlankhorst | RAOF: why? | 10:02 |
| RAOF | Because 2.4.37-0ubuntu1 was a pre-sync from debian-experimental; it wasn't actually a merge, so it doesn't need the previous changelog entries. | 10:03 |
| mlankhorst | ok | 10:04 |
| RAOF | When we sync we drop all the previous Ubuntu changelogs, partially because they no longer accurately describe the lineage of the package, partially because it's easier. :) | 10:04 |
| mlankhorst | shrug git-merge handles changelog entries for me automatically, but yeah | 10:05 |
| RAOF | Oh, yeah. It does for me, too. | 10:05 |
| mlankhorst | ok I'm just setting up my quantal-i386 changeroot again, I automated most of it now though | 10:08 |
| mlankhorst | RAOF: you could start uploading xorg-server to -proposed though with a note to keep it there for a bit, then prepare xserver-xorg-input-* | 10:25 |
| mlankhorst | for the video drivers, openchrome was updated to 0.3.0 but I couldn't find a binary package, and the real 0.3.0 name will conflict with openchrome from hardy so you need to change version probably | 10:28 |
| mlankhorst | ati and cirrus are git snapshots since they didn't post a release that worked in time | 10:28 |
| mlankhorst | and the rest of the *.orig.tar.gz I'll sell to you for a small price | 10:29 |
| mlankhorst | :P | 10:29 |
| jcristau | openchrome 0.3.0? | 10:29 |
| jcristau | ah. | 10:30 |
| jcristau | i was remembering the version wrong | 10:30 |
| mlankhorst | apm ark ati chips cirrus dummy fbdev glide glint i128 i740 intel mach64 mga modesetting neomagic nouveau openchrome qxl r128 rendition s3 savage siliconmotion sis sisusb tdfx trident vesa | 10:30 |
| mlankhorst | all the xorg video drivers that I had updated | 10:31 |
| mlankhorst | geode is going to need another fix but doesn't seem to use version control | 10:32 |
| mlankhorst | working on it though as soon as this apt-get dist-upgrade finishes | 10:34 |
| mlankhorst | ok early eod for me, still working on fixing up geode source | 11:00 |
| mlankhorst | will complete tomorrow :) | 11:00 |
| RAOF | mlankhorst: You know tomorrow's Saturday, right? :) | 12:25 |
| RAOF | mlankhorst: I'm trying my hand at robustifying the ‘get apport to catch Xserver crashes’ patch; I think I can do that before uploading 1.13 (ie: it'll be done Monday or Tuesday) | 12:26 |
| RAOF | Now, sleep | 12:26 |
| mlankhorst | RAOF: yeah just moving up this afternoon to play wtih a friend, and maybe visit him next week in afternoon :) | 12:27 |
| bryceh | tjaalton (and mlankhorst), I've moved the question you added at the end of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Blueprints/LtsPointUpdatesForXorg up into the body proper. What you listed as upgrade paths looks proper to me (and leann says it fits with foundation's recollection of the upgrade plan). | 19:10 |
| bryceh | apparently there's been some confusion about how we're going to handle the upgrades so hopefully this will help us nail things down. Please take a look and make sure it's covering things correctly. | 19:11 |
| mlankhorst | bryceh: I would really want to sru libdrm if possible | 19:20 |
| mlankhorst | so that only packages pulled in by xorg would get updated | 19:20 |
| mlankhorst | this would make it possible to nuke the entire X stack and move back to the old one if needed :) | 19:23 |
| bryceh | mlankhorst, well good luck getting that by the sru admins... | 19:23 |
| mlankhorst | bryceh: I know, but it would make Xorg so much easier | 19:23 |
| bryceh | if there's specific patches in particular that would help, that might be doable. but I don't know | 19:24 |
| mlankhorst | bryceh: it's specifically that having the new version shouldn't break existing functionality, and would make switching between new Xorg and old easier by a multitude | 19:24 |
| mlankhorst | same for libXrender, if things would mess up, apt-get remove .*lts-quantal could be made to work | 19:26 |
| mlankhorst | without leaving a severely broken system | 19:26 |
| mlankhorst | although maybe xrandr needs a different solution | 19:29 |
| mlankhorst | I think it makes sense to define the backported X stack as xorg package + xorg-server-core + all drivers + mesa | 19:30 |
| mlankhorst | and x11proto probably :) | 19:31 |
| mlankhorst | but if we would do that, there's no creepy magic going on any more, it would just be a different set of xorg packages | 19:32 |
| mlankhorst | just mesa+xorg+xorg-server-core+drivers under a different name | 19:34 |
| mlankhorst | if things mess up, we could create a script that uninstalls all the renamed xorg packages, the original xorg package names, and reinstall the original packages without leaving the system in a creepy halfbroken state because of libdrm | 19:36 |
| mlankhorst | that would also mean sru'ing the fix for plymouth on arm, but we should really aim for it :) | 19:37 |
| bryceh | mlankhorst, have you talked with RAOF about this? what's his take? | 19:38 |
| mlankhorst | not sure yet | 19:38 |
| mlankhorst | I'm gonna pester him, and after x1.13 is uploaded do another renamed x stack for testing, but this time only including the packages I want to update unrenamed, and the x stack itself renamed | 19:39 |
| mlankhorst | to show you can switch between them without scary brokenness | 19:39 |
| mlankhorst | or at least, when it does break but it would leave your system in a state where it can still boot :) | 19:43 |
| jcristau | booting is overrated | 19:52 |
| mlankhorst | I already had a problem where I uninstalled libdrm-renamed, but the old libdrm was overwritten by it | 19:53 |
| jcristau | at which point no plymouth, and things get unhappy? | 19:55 |
| mlankhorst | erm plymouth package is fine, it was just libdrm*.so.* missing | 19:56 |
| mlankhorst | which plymouth didn't like very much | 19:56 |
| jcristau | yeah that's what i meant by no plymouth | 19:57 |
| jcristau | sorry | 19:57 |
| mlankhorst | :) | 19:59 |
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| tjaalton | mlankhorst: oh you managed to update it, cool. the shared repo sometimes doesn't really work that well.. | 20:59 |
| tjaalton | should probably push it to kernel.u.c or such.. | 21:00 |
| tjaalton | bryceh: ok, thanks. I'll read it once it's nice and calm ;) | 21:00 |
| mlankhorst | it's fine though | 21:00 |
| tjaalton | great then, remember there were some issues with it earlier | 21:02 |
| tjaalton | ooh new upstream | 21:03 |
| tjaalton | 0.15 wasn't interesting | 21:03 |
| tjaalton | bryceh: yeah it looks fine | 21:49 |
| * bryceh nods | 21:49 | |
| tjaalton | did update the 12.04.0 x stack column to 'no update' though (instead of 'none' :) | 21:50 |
| tjaalton | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Release/Rolling looks scary, for 14.04 | 21:51 |
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