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fuskso quick fix would be fastest and easiest, right ?00:00
Unit193Yep, start there.00:01
fuski'm fine with that.00:01
fuskthere should just be a reset button in the panel settings00:01
Unit193Hah, that'd be nice wouldn't it?00:02
fuskyep00:02
fuskbut i guess it ain't supposed to be easy, it's like darwin for nerds, only the strong survives.00:03
fuskthe rest go back to windows00:04
Unit193Hopenot for Win8, but there is Unity.  Got it fixed?00:05
fuskwaiting for it to logout.00:05
fuskdo'h, i'm supposed to do that.00:05
fuski feel like i missed something00:07
fuskit said to remember to check some box about not saving the session or something like that, but i don't see that anywhere.00:08
fusk"Make sure "Save session for future logins" is not checked"00:09
fuskyou know where that tickbox might be ?00:10
Unit193Click on the name at top right > Logout00:11
fuskdid that00:11
fuskand logged back in00:12
Unit193Should be a little checkmark.00:12
fuskon the login box00:12
Unit193Or is it in menu > Log out?  I don't have the top right as I removed it. :P00:13
Unit193Anywho, that didn't help?  On to the next one.00:13
fuski found one in settings/session & startup, but that is not what you are talking about.00:13
fuskis there a difference as to wich logout i choose ?00:14
Unit193A little, but shouldn't matter unless one has that checkmarked.00:14
Unit193(Then you can uncheck it)00:14
fuski can try the other one, see if there is a difference.00:14
Unit193Not really.00:15
fuskokay00:15
fuski'll give it a quick try.00:16
fuskohhh00:17
fuski see00:17
fusknope, that is not checked.00:17
fuskit's the hole menu that's different.00:17
fuskwhat a surprice, i would never have thought that those two buttons that says "logout" would not do the same thing.00:19
Unit193If nothing, I'd recommend the next step on the page.00:19
fuskyep00:20
fuskhmm00:22
fusklast step then00:22
fuskdidn't work either00:23
fuskoh wait00:24
fuskit dosn't say logout and in again, it says restart.00:24
fuskargh00:27
fuskdidn't work00:27
Unit193.....Nothing on there?00:27
fuskuhm, on the dock ?00:28
Unit193Nothing on that page helped that is.00:28
fuskyes, nothing worked.00:28
Unit193Welp, either it's something real basic I'm missing, some sort of bug, or we call Dice as he's better. :P00:29
fuskcan't i just give you some remote control, i can see what you do different than me00:30
Unit193Well, if you said you just installed, you could create a new user and see if that's alright there.00:31
fuskofc, why didn't i think of that00:31
fuskcan i rename this user, so the new one can have this username ?00:32
Unit193Well, this is a good first step.00:32
Unit193You'd make a new one first, delete this, then make another?00:32
fuski could do that, just a little longer road00:33
fuskmmm, wheres the user control panel ?00:34
fuskgot it00:34
fuskseems like i can delete the current user, wonder what will happen if i do ?00:35
Unit193You'll end up with no user I'd think.00:36
Unit193Not done it, yet.00:37
Unit193(I should really try it)00:37
fusk:)00:38
fuski'll take the long road, just for safety.00:39
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fuskok, new problem00:45
fuskcreated new user with password.00:45
fusklogged in as the new user, deleted old user, logged out and in again.00:45
fusktrying to create new new user, but it won't accept my password for authentication.00:46
fuskthis is not going as well as i've hoped.00:47
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fusksu password also gives me error00:49
fuskBut!00:49
fuskmy dock is back to default.00:49
Unit193No, this isn't going very well.00:50
fuskif i go into groups, and check adm group, my new user is part of that group.00:50
Unit193Need admin.00:51
fuski know the password, but it doesn't work.00:51
anaxHey, guys, can anyone help with some problems with suspending my system? :)00:51
Unit193Sorry, sudo group.00:51
fuskuhm00:52
fusksays test is not sudoerfile or however i would translate that.00:53
fuskor sudoersfile00:53
Unit193Yeah, you need to be in the sudo group.00:54
fuskthought i were00:54
fuskguess i was wrong00:54
fuskuhm00:55
fuskin groups, sudo group, i am in that group, group id 2700:56
fuskso let's be honest here00:58
fuski'm fuckt, right ?00:58
bazhangfusk, no cursing here00:59
fuskeasy there tiger, didn't curse.00:59
bazhangfusk, just move on, and keep it family friendly language wise01:00
Unit193http://maketecheasier.com/fixing-sudo-error-in-ubuntu/2012/01/03 See if you can follow that a little.01:00
fuskwouldn't it just be easier to reinstall.01:02
Unit193If you'd prefer.01:03
fuskguess it ain't that bad, just seemed like there was a lot of scroling to be done.01:03
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mattmerrellHi, I need some help with running the live cd of Xubuntu 12.04. The live cd boots up to a point where it checks the status of the battery and it stops and crashes at checking the network mount, then I restart it again. Same result instead of the previous error I get Stopped Systrem V runlevel compatibility. I have tried the boot cd on a laptop then a desktop04:40
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xubuntu116hello, need help with my iphone 3gs to connect to xubuntu is say it cant mount it06:44
Unit193!iphone06:44
ubottuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod06:44
xubuntu116thanks ill try that06:45
Unit193Hope that helps a little.06:45
ajhcasualHello there08:09
baizonhi hi08:09
ajhcasualI am trying to report a bug, and I think I am missing the correct method.08:10
ajhcasualIs there a reason why I would not be able to use launchpad.net?  I got to a page that says "Xubuntu must be configured in order for Launchpad to forward bugs to the project's developers. "08:11
ajhcasualhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/xubuntu-desktop/+bugs?field.searchtext=&search=Search+Bug+Reports&field.scope=project&field.scope.target=xubuntu-desktop08:12
ajhcasualOk, and also, the link "Report a Bug" is greyed-out at the page https://launchpad.net/xubuntu-desktop08:21
Unit193What problem are you having?08:23
ajhcasualWell, after performing the first "wave" of updates on 11.10, the "preferred applications" seem to get lost.08:49
ajhcasualThis includes the web browser, mail reader, terminal and file manager icons in the start menu.08:51
ajhcasualI have a list of the .debs that were installed, and I was going to attach it to a bug report.08:51
ajhcasualso, if I select start>internet>firefox, everything is fine.  Just when I select the other icon start>web browser, it gives a pop-up asking to choose preferred application.08:53
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lJ6ilHello there. When i connect my user in Xubuntu a quick black screen appears and get me again at the connexion menu09:58
lJ6ilDoes someone know what it is ? How could i know the problem ?09:58
well_laid_lawnI'd check the X log for errors09:59
lJ6ilok where is it ? :)09:59
lJ6il/var/log ?09:59
well_laid_lawn /var/log/Xorg.0.log09:59
lJ6ilok thanks09:59
well_laid_lawncheers10:00
lJ6iland what should look for ?10:00
well_laid_lawnyou could try   grep EE   /var/log/Xorg.0.log10:01
well_laid_lawnor    tail -20 /var/log/Xorg.0.log   and see if it exits with an error10:03
lJ6il[25.770] (EE) Failed to load module ''nv'' (module does not exist, 0) [25.771] (EE) Failed to load module ''nv'' (module does not exist, 0)10:03
well_laid_lawnthat says you're trying to use the opensource driver for nvidia cards10:04
well_laid_lawnand it can't be found10:04
well_laid_lawntry the tail command as a check10:04
lJ6ilThanks. what do you mean as acheck ? :)10:05
well_laid_lawnto check if the X server did in fact exit due to errors10:06
well_laid_lawnsometimes it looks for one driver, doesn't find it but finds another it can use10:07
v1adimirthe default drivers are ok (and there's the x-swat nvidia ppa for ubuntu), here on gts45010:09
lJ6ilok thanks10:10
lJ6iltail shows that the Xorg log finishes by talking about my mouse10:17
well_laid_lawnok that suggests X works ok, probably an xfce error with the display then10:18
Dicedo you mean login screen by "connection menu"?10:18
ajhcasualumm, is there anyone who can address the preferred applications thing, or what?  I know it isn't fatal, but it is a nuisance.10:19
well_laid_lawnlJ6il: you can try  mv ~/.config ~/.config.bak   then loging in again10:19
well_laid_lawnlJ6il: if that doesn't work then  mv ~/.config.bak ~/.config10:21
lJ6ilok i try this thanks :)10:21
Diceyou can try  removing ~/.ICEauthortity before that10:21
well_laid_lawnthere'd be errors if ICE was an issue afaik10:22
well_laid_lawn*errors mentioned10:23
lJ6ilMmm strange10:23
lJ6ili removed .config10:23
lJ6ilnow when i connect it doesn't give me this black speedy screen10:23
lJ6ilbut i'm just in front of the wallpaper10:23
lJ6ilwith my mouse10:24
lJ6iland that's it10:24
lJ6ilOh !10:24
lJ6ilblack speedy screen10:24
lJ6ilafter 20 seconds10:24
lJ6iland now total black screen10:24
lJ6il(no information, nothing. Black screen)10:24
lJ6ilbut i can access to TTYs10:24
amber_anyone knows what to with SH files that in tar.gzip folder was with program. Xubuntu by default opens in text viewer. chmod +x has do nothing10:25
ajhcasualamber: extract them first.10:25
well_laid_lawnlJ6il: I have to go but maybe Dice can help, luck :)10:25
amber_that for sure did10:25
lJ6ilno pb well_laid_lawn thanks :)10:26
lJ6ilNow Xubuntu went back (alone !) to my connection screen10:26
lJ6ilbut i only have "invited account" and "other". My user is gone10:27
amber_in instruction to use in this program written run ./name_of_program but I do see no where to type run. If open console then run is unnknown command. That is why I started to digg with .sh files that is in package10:28
amber_si is there are possible difference between ubuntu and xubuntu for running programs?10:29
ajhcasualamber: I see the problem, it is missing the "run" or "run in terminal" button that ubuntu has...10:29
amber_aha10:30
amber_so what repository I need to install?10:30
ajhcasualidk10:30
ajhcasualI would just open a terminal and run it on the command line10:30
ajhcasualbut make sure to change to the correct directory first.10:31
amber_if to type run it says unnknown command10:31
ajhcasualit is not #run ./name of program10:31
amber_in xbunty you can run terminal from current directory10:31
Diceright click in folder on filemanager -> open in terminal, then just ./script.sh10:31
amber_no, written without #10:31
ajhcasuallisten to the pro...10:32
amber_./sccript.sh do nothing10:32
ajhcasual"Open terminal here"10:32
amber_but if to chmod x ./script.sh then it silent do something. and if to bash ./script.sh it says something about permissions denied10:32
DiceI guess your script isn't named script.sh10:32
ajhcasualI'd do it except for MY problem with preferred applications :(10:33
amber_yes It is different named and I know that it is not script named ,just for shorting10:33
Diceoh, sorry10:34
Diceajhcasual: try searching for pref in appfinder10:34
ajhcasualdid you use "chmod a+x ./script_name.sh" ?10:34
amber_nah is okey, just hard to remember names, and it doesnot matter, so operating with default names that I will change to what currently need is okey10:34
amber_no. didnot used a+x10:34
amber_and what is difference between a+x and x?10:35
Dicea = all,  x = execute (run)10:35
DiceIDK if +x is same as u+x or a+x (u = user)10:36
amber_erm okey I will try, I am currently on reinstalling Xubuntu. so only in browser can chat. But if it will helps to remove permissions restriction that it wrotes?10:36
Diceunix file permissions have three stages, user, group and other10:36
ajhcasualbecause "chmod x" seems not to work on my end10:37
ajhcasualso I suggested a+x10:37
amber_chmod +x was recomendation on first 23 pages of google10:37
amber_okey I will try a+x10:37
ajhcasual+x also works, just not "x" by itself10:37
amber_"chmod +x" not "chmod x"10:37
amber_yes chmod +x I tried.. that it says with premissions denied10:38
Dice+x to a+x doesn't make difference if file is owned by you, which may not be case for file extracted from tarball10:38
ajhcasualdice: I just tried +x, and it is the same as a+x with a file I am the owner and group owner of.10:40
ajhcasualgo figure.10:40
ajhcasualamber: use "ls -l" and who is the owner of your script?10:41
Dicels -l script.sh shows permissions/owner ('read write execute' in order 'user group other')10:41
amber_Thank you all, I quess I need to find another ubuntu based system without forcing me to make hard movements instead of just what written in instruction to program. Going to download pure ubuntu then. (Second day of reinstalling.. and all I wanted was to install Windows 8. but it refuses cause Xubuntu broke boot sector of disk and now no of Win system installs, even afted delete reformat parition. Only 10.10 Ubuntu and Xubuntu )10:43
Diceif you want to empty your (first) drive, "dd if=dev/zero of=/dev/sda" should leave MBR in condition windows can write to10:45
Diceyou can kill dd with Ctrl C after 10s10:46
amber_no, I want my data parition not be touched. it is 400GB and I am will be very upset if it will be lost10:46
ajhcasualamber, if you're frustrated, now isn't the time to mess with dd...10:46
Dicewindows *should* be able to overwrite MBR anyway, if disk isn't broken10:47
DiceI had to use repair disk twice to make it happen, there's also some more manual way with it10:47
amber_like Ubunty 11.04, Win says about not having drivers for current hard disk. Thought it fine operates from Live CD Xubuntu, and 10.10 Ubuntu10:48
Dicesounds like missing chipset driver10:48
ajhcasualDice: even the application finder uses the bad icons for terminal emulator, web browser etc, and I still get a pop-up asking to select preferred application (dropdown menu empty)10:48
amber_no. it says on a installing phase, not on GUI10:49
Diceajhcasual: oh, I though that dialog itself was had gone missing10:50
Dicewhat if you manually place command? like "firefox"10:50
Diceif it just forgets it, you probably need to blank some setting(s)10:52
ajhcasualthe icon start->internet->firefox works fine, it is only the icon start->web browser, that is one of the affected ones.10:52
ajhcasualAnd these "preferred" applications were fine in the default install, it was only after the first wave of updates did they get un-configured.10:53
ajhcasualAnd I was looking to report it as a bug, but launchpad won't allow me.  so I am here.10:53
ajhcasualAlternately, I would be happy with a .sh script that could backup my preffered applications manually before updates.10:54
ajhcasual(I am installing on several pcs)10:54
Diceit probably wouldn't be fixed because 11.10 isn't LTS and uses old version of xfce10:55
ajhcasualdice: ok then I will forget about it in 11.10.  I can select /usr/bin/firefox from the dialogue, after which it sets its command to10:57
ajhcasual"/usr/bin/firefox "%s"10:57
ajhcasualand it does remember it.  The one I cant figure out is the terminal... what is the name of the terminal binary?10:58
Dicexfce4-terminal10:58
ajhcasualok, thx, that will solve it for 11.10.  I hope it isnt a problem when I switch to 12.04.10:59
ajhcasualNow how can I find out which config file holds these, so I can write a .sh to manually back it up before updating?11:02
ajhcasuala find command maybe..11:03
ajhcasualis  ctime the right value to search for the config file that "preffered applications" just updated?11:09
ajhcasualbrb re-loggin into session11:10
ajhcasualback11:17
ajhcasualthe preferred applications are preserved after I logged out.  so the only problem is the updates wiping them in the first place11:17
ajhcasual#find /etc /home/user/ -mmin 30 produces nothing?11:19
ajhcasualarrgh.11:19
xubuntunewbCan anyone help me fix an unknown format error on my pc screen?11:38
Mathsterkyeh11:38
xubuntunewbhow can I fix it?11:40
Mathsterklaptop or desktop?11:41
xubuntunewbdesktop. A borrowed monitor works and the monitor works attached to my laptop11:42
Mathsterkxubuntunewb: maybe a resolution problem?11:55
xubuntunewbI tried changing the resolution and the problem persisted, I also tried to plug it in as a second monitor however linux refuses to pick it up.11:57
ajhcasualI found the config files that contain the preferred applications.  If I write a script to make backup copies, then I should be able to restore the preferred applications after updates are complete.12:05
ajhcasualunless the updates are changing entirely the directory structure or the format of the launchers...12:06
Diceuhm, why are you not using newest, LTS, version of xubuntu?12:06
ajhcasualI guess I have a tendency to stick with a certain version for a longer while.  I am still deciding whether to use Xubuntu or stick with ubuntu 9.12:12
ajhcasual10 wont work on my hardware, and don't get me started on unity.12:13
Mathsterkajhcasual: unity12:13
ajhcasualdont12:13
Mathsterk:P12:14
ajhcasualI really think that Xubuntu ought to become the most popular variant, given that KDE is limited to those with new computers.12:15
ajhcasualAlso: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=10078712:16
martinphonehow do I manually delete an unused acces icon and add other with the correct path?12:20
martinphoneits a wine app, I dont see wine apps editing mode with right click12:21
Mathsterki just delete them :P12:21
martinphonehow?12:22
Mathsterkrm or delete-button12:22
Mathsterkor dragging them to the trash bin12:22
martinphonefrom winetricks?12:23
martinphonei dragged to bin, icon is still there12:25
xubuntu790total newbie here. Have a laptop I inherited with xubuntu on it.   ask for user and password which aunt mildred has no idea on.   what do i do to reset or override.14:32
holsteinxubuntu790: you can reset the password with the recovery at boot14:49
holsteinxubuntu790: check out http://linuxtipstricks.wordpress.com/2009/07/04/ho-to-reset-ubuntu-password-kubuntu-xubuntu-gos-mint-and-other-ubuntu-based-oss/ and see if that helps14:50
kabenHi all :)  anyone had this problem with wine "couldn't load module: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so" I have 12.04_64 xubuntu and both 32 and 64 bit wine 1.4 installed. link to 64bit file doesn't work. can't find another solution16:57
kabenHi all :) can anyone help with this? "couldn't load module: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so" I have 12.04_64 xubuntu and both 32 and 64 bit wine 1.4 installed. link to 64bit file doesn't work. can't find another solution19:40
holsteinkaben: what windows application? have you removed and respawned ~/.wine ? do you have that module? what is calling for that module you think?19:41
kabenI'm trying to run a car workshop manual from a virtual disc19:43
kabenI did remove .wine when I was using furiousmount and gmount, now tried cdemu because it always never found disc and on surface the problem seems the same19:44
kabenI'll try it again now19:44
kabenholstein: nope same problem, after respawn and reinstall it says insert cd, and then errors "run-time error 429 ; ActiveX component can't create object"19:50
kabenand when I run from cl i get same missing file error19:52
holsteinkaben: you might need to insert the CD19:53
holsteinkaben: i would look at wineHQ, and not expect magic.. this is also something you could seek support for in the more general ubuntu support venues, or wine19:53
kabenonly have the image running in virtual drive19:53
holsteinkaben: maybe you are not "allowed" to do that with that software19:54
holsteinmaybe you need an actual physical disk, and im sure there are work arounds, and the first place i would look would be wineHQ, but i wont be able to help you get around a licensing issue19:55
kabenyep, on wine hq they say its a ubuntu problem, and on ubuntu forums only fix i found is a symlink which doesn't work for me19:55
holsteinthey?... you mean someone at wine says its an ubuntu issue?19:55
holsteinwho? have they filed a bug report?... you could ask them to19:56
kabenits not  alicencing issue, it works perfectly on windows with magicdisc, I just dont want to use windows ;)19:56
holsteinsure, but magic disk is a way to "get around" a licensing issue, is it not?19:56
holsteinyou are expected to use the disk...19:56
kabenyep there are some about the same file being missing19:56
kabenhmm, spose so19:57
kabenI will keep digging, thanks for your help :)19:57
holsteinsure... id try #wine and/or #ubuntu19:57
kabenok thx19:58
PrivateReesehey guys i just deleted my /boot because of some issues with windows 7 and grub20:40
PrivateReesecan someone tell me how to fix it20:40
PrivateReeseonly grub is in /boot now?20:40
holsteini would just recover grub20:46
holstein!grub | PrivateReese20:46
ubottuPrivateReese: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)20:46
holsteincheck out the restore grub option20:46
PrivateReeseyeah grub2 i got but i somehow deleted my vmlinux and initframs files20:46
PrivateReeseis it usual that just a folder grub is in the /boot partition20:48
holsteinits not typical to have a /boot partition... i would look at how you customized the installation, and try and recover that partition you removed20:51
holsteinotherwise, i would literally follow those steps to recover GRUB and see what you need to make that work for you20:51
PrivateReesei got a boot partition because i encrypted the whole system and boot hast to boot at first20:53
PrivateReesei tried to restore grub with the manuals you also gave me and it resulted in an almost empty /boot partition20:53
holsteinPrivateReese: sure.. im just saying that not the typical installation method, and if you are experiencing breakage, you might need to put in place those cusomizations again20:54
holsteincustomizations*20:54
holsteinshould be fixable... but you'll need what was in that partition back somewhere..20:55
PrivateReeseyeah maybe a systemreinstall will do it for me20:55
PrivateReesebecause xubuntu was also broken a little bit from the start20:55
xubuntu407new to xubuntu how do I play cds?23:24
well_laid_lawn!info xubuntu-restricted-extras23:33
ubottuxubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used restricted packages for Xubuntu. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 57 (precise), package size 2 kB, installed size 30 kB23:33
well_laid_lawntry installing that xubuntu40723:35
xubuntu493hello,23:51
xubuntu493 problem installing Xubuntu on an old Fujitsu Athlon 260023:52
v1adimirwhat's the problem? :(23:53
xubuntu493. (same with Lubuntu). Ubuntu 10.4 installed OK, but23:55
xubuntu493hello, the install gets clugged and the disc is read non-stop for hours, nothing happens after first dialogue box.23:56
xubuntu493I checksummed the cd.23:57

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