[00:00] <fusk> so quick fix would be fastest and easiest, right ?
[00:01] <Unit193> Yep, start there.
[00:01] <fusk> i'm fine with that.
[00:01] <fusk> there should just be a reset button in the panel settings
[00:02] <Unit193> Hah, that'd be nice wouldn't it?
[00:02] <fusk> yep
[00:03] <fusk> but i guess it ain't supposed to be easy, it's like darwin for nerds, only the strong survives.
[00:04] <fusk> the rest go back to windows
[00:05] <Unit193> Hopenot for Win8, but there is Unity.  Got it fixed?
[00:05] <fusk> waiting for it to logout.
[00:05] <fusk> do'h, i'm supposed to do that.
[00:07] <fusk> i feel like i missed something
[00:08] <fusk> it said to remember to check some box about not saving the session or something like that, but i don't see that anywhere.
[00:09] <fusk> "Make sure "Save session for future logins" is not checked"
[00:10] <fusk> you know where that tickbox might be ?
[00:11] <Unit193> Click on the name at top right > Logout
[00:11] <fusk> did that
[00:12] <fusk> and logged back in
[00:12] <Unit193> Should be a little checkmark.
[00:12] <fusk> on the login box
[00:13] <Unit193> Or is it in menu > Log out?  I don't have the top right as I removed it. :P
[00:13] <Unit193> Anywho, that didn't help?  On to the next one.
[00:13] <fusk> i found one in settings/session & startup, but that is not what you are talking about.
[00:14] <fusk> is there a difference as to wich logout i choose ?
[00:14] <Unit193> A little, but shouldn't matter unless one has that checkmarked.
[00:14] <Unit193> (Then you can uncheck it)
[00:14] <fusk> i can try the other one, see if there is a difference.
[00:15] <Unit193> Not really.
[00:15] <fusk> okay
[00:16] <fusk> i'll give it a quick try.
[00:17] <fusk> ohhh
[00:17] <fusk> i see
[00:17] <fusk> nope, that is not checked.
[00:17] <fusk> it's the hole menu that's different.
[00:19] <fusk> what a surprice, i would never have thought that those two buttons that says "logout" would not do the same thing.
[00:19] <Unit193> If nothing, I'd recommend the next step on the page.
[00:20] <fusk> yep
[00:22] <fusk> hmm
[00:22] <fusk> last step then
[00:23] <fusk> didn't work either
[00:24] <fusk> oh wait
[00:24] <fusk> it dosn't say logout and in again, it says restart.
[00:27] <fusk> argh
[00:27] <fusk> didn't work
[00:27] <Unit193> .....Nothing on there?
[00:28] <fusk> uhm, on the dock ?
[00:28] <Unit193> Nothing on that page helped that is.
[00:28] <fusk> yes, nothing worked.
[00:29] <Unit193> Welp, either it's something real basic I'm missing, some sort of bug, or we call Dice as he's better. :P
[00:30] <fusk> can't i just give you some remote control, i can see what you do different than me
[00:31] <Unit193> Well, if you said you just installed, you could create a new user and see if that's alright there.
[00:31] <fusk> ofc, why didn't i think of that
[00:32] <fusk> can i rename this user, so the new one can have this username ?
[00:32] <Unit193> Well, this is a good first step.
[00:32] <Unit193> You'd make a new one first, delete this, then make another?
[00:33] <fusk> i could do that, just a little longer road
[00:34] <fusk> mmm, wheres the user control panel ?
[00:34] <fusk> got it
[00:35] <fusk> seems like i can delete the current user, wonder what will happen if i do ?
[00:36] <Unit193> You'll end up with no user I'd think.
[00:37] <Unit193> Not done it, yet.
[00:37] <Unit193> (I should really try it)
[00:38] <fusk> :)
[00:39] <fusk> i'll take the long road, just for safety.
[00:45] <fusk> ok, new problem
[00:45] <fusk> created new user with password.
[00:45] <fusk> logged in as the new user, deleted old user, logged out and in again.
[00:46] <fusk> trying to create new new user, but it won't accept my password for authentication.
[00:47] <fusk> this is not going as well as i've hoped.
[00:49] <fusk> su password also gives me error
[00:49] <fusk> But!
[00:49] <fusk> my dock is back to default.
[00:50] <Unit193> No, this isn't going very well.
[00:50] <fusk> if i go into groups, and check adm group, my new user is part of that group.
[00:51] <Unit193> Need admin.
[00:51] <fusk> i know the password, but it doesn't work.
[00:51] <anax> Hey, guys, can anyone help with some problems with suspending my system? :)
[00:51] <Unit193> Sorry, sudo group.
[00:52] <fusk> uhm
[00:53] <fusk> says test is not sudoerfile or however i would translate that.
[00:53] <fusk> or sudoersfile
[00:54] <Unit193> Yeah, you need to be in the sudo group.
[00:54] <fusk> thought i were
[00:54] <fusk> guess i was wrong
[00:55] <fusk> uhm
[00:56] <fusk> in groups, sudo group, i am in that group, group id 27
[00:58] <fusk> so let's be honest here
[00:58] <fusk> i'm fuckt, right ?
[00:59] <bazhang> fusk, no cursing here
[00:59] <fusk> easy there tiger, didn't curse.
[01:00] <bazhang> fusk, just move on, and keep it family friendly language wise
[01:00] <Unit193> http://maketecheasier.com/fixing-sudo-error-in-ubuntu/2012/01/03 See if you can follow that a little.
[01:02] <fusk> wouldn't it just be easier to reinstall.
[01:03] <Unit193> If you'd prefer.
[01:03] <fusk> guess it ain't that bad, just seemed like there was a lot of scroling to be done.
[04:40] <mattmerrell> Hi, I need some help with running the live cd of Xubuntu 12.04. The live cd boots up to a point where it checks the status of the battery and it stops and crashes at checking the network mount, then I restart it again. Same result instead of the previous error I get Stopped Systrem V runlevel compatibility. I have tried the boot cd on a laptop then a desktop
[05:29] <Mortarkis> hi
[06:44] <xubuntu116> hello, need help with my iphone 3gs to connect to xubuntu is say it cant mount it
[06:44] <Unit193> !iphone
[06:45] <xubuntu116> thanks ill try that
[06:45] <Unit193> Hope that helps a little.
[08:09] <ajhcasual> Hello there
[08:09] <baizon> hi hi
[08:10] <ajhcasual> I am trying to report a bug, and I think I am missing the correct method.
[08:11] <ajhcasual> Is there a reason why I would not be able to use launchpad.net?  I got to a page that says "Xubuntu must be configured in order for Launchpad to forward bugs to the project's developers. "
[08:12] <ajhcasual> https://bugs.launchpad.net/xubuntu-desktop/+bugs?field.searchtext=&search=Search+Bug+Reports&field.scope=project&field.scope.target=xubuntu-desktop
[08:21] <ajhcasual> Ok, and also, the link "Report a Bug" is greyed-out at the page https://launchpad.net/xubuntu-desktop
[08:23] <Unit193> What problem are you having?
[08:49] <ajhcasual> Well, after performing the first "wave" of updates on 11.10, the "preferred applications" seem to get lost.
[08:51] <ajhcasual> This includes the web browser, mail reader, terminal and file manager icons in the start menu.
[08:51] <ajhcasual> I have a list of the .debs that were installed, and I was going to attach it to a bug report.
[08:53] <ajhcasual> so, if I select start>internet>firefox, everything is fine.  Just when I select the other icon start>web browser, it gives a pop-up asking to choose preferred application.
[09:58] <lJ6il> Hello there. When i connect my user in Xubuntu a quick black screen appears and get me again at the connexion menu
[09:58] <lJ6il> Does someone know what it is ? How could i know the problem ?
[09:59] <well_laid_lawn> I'd check the X log for errors
[09:59] <lJ6il> ok where is it ? :)
[09:59] <lJ6il> /var/log ?
[09:59] <well_laid_lawn>  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:59] <lJ6il> ok thanks
[10:00] <well_laid_lawn> cheers
[10:00] <lJ6il> and what should look for ?
[10:01] <well_laid_lawn> you could try   grep EE   /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:03] <well_laid_lawn> or    tail -20 /var/log/Xorg.0.log   and see if it exits with an error
[10:03] <lJ6il> [25.770] (EE) Failed to load module ''nv'' (module does not exist, 0) [25.771] (EE) Failed to load module ''nv'' (module does not exist, 0)
[10:04] <well_laid_lawn> that says you're trying to use the opensource driver for nvidia cards
[10:04] <well_laid_lawn> and it can't be found
[10:04] <well_laid_lawn> try the tail command as a check
[10:05] <lJ6il> Thanks. what do you mean as acheck ? :)
[10:06] <well_laid_lawn> to check if the X server did in fact exit due to errors
[10:07] <well_laid_lawn> sometimes it looks for one driver, doesn't find it but finds another it can use
[10:09] <v1adimir> the default drivers are ok (and there's the x-swat nvidia ppa for ubuntu), here on gts450
[10:10] <lJ6il> ok thanks
[10:17] <lJ6il> tail shows that the Xorg log finishes by talking about my mouse
[10:18] <well_laid_lawn> ok that suggests X works ok, probably an xfce error with the display then
[10:18] <Dice> do you mean login screen by "connection menu"?
[10:19] <ajhcasual> umm, is there anyone who can address the preferred applications thing, or what?  I know it isn't fatal, but it is a nuisance.
[10:19] <well_laid_lawn> lJ6il: you can try  mv ~/.config ~/.config.bak   then loging in again
[10:21] <well_laid_lawn> lJ6il: if that doesn't work then  mv ~/.config.bak ~/.config
[10:21] <lJ6il> ok i try this thanks :)
[10:21] <Dice> you can try  removing ~/.ICEauthortity before that
[10:22] <well_laid_lawn> there'd be errors if ICE was an issue afaik
[10:23] <well_laid_lawn> *errors mentioned
[10:23] <lJ6il> Mmm strange
[10:23] <lJ6il> i removed .config
[10:23] <lJ6il> now when i connect it doesn't give me this black speedy screen
[10:23] <lJ6il> but i'm just in front of the wallpaper
[10:24] <lJ6il> with my mouse
[10:24] <lJ6il> and that's it
[10:24] <lJ6il> Oh !
[10:24] <lJ6il> black speedy screen
[10:24] <lJ6il> after 20 seconds
[10:24] <lJ6il> and now total black screen
[10:24] <lJ6il> (no information, nothing. Black screen)
[10:24] <lJ6il> but i can access to TTYs
[10:25] <amber_> anyone knows what to with SH files that in tar.gzip folder was with program. Xubuntu by default opens in text viewer. chmod +x has do nothing
[10:25] <ajhcasual> amber: extract them first.
[10:25] <well_laid_lawn> lJ6il: I have to go but maybe Dice can help, luck :)
[10:25] <amber_> that for sure did
[10:26] <lJ6il> no pb well_laid_lawn thanks :)
[10:26] <lJ6il> Now Xubuntu went back (alone !) to my connection screen
[10:27] <lJ6il> but i only have "invited account" and "other". My user is gone
[10:28] <amber_> in instruction to use in this program written run ./name_of_program but I do see no where to type run. If open console then run is unnknown command. That is why I started to digg with .sh files that is in package
[10:29] <amber_> si is there are possible difference between ubuntu and xubuntu for running programs?
[10:29] <ajhcasual> amber: I see the problem, it is missing the "run" or "run in terminal" button that ubuntu has...
[10:30] <amber_> aha
[10:30] <amber_> so what repository I need to install?
[10:30] <ajhcasual> idk
[10:30] <ajhcasual> I would just open a terminal and run it on the command line
[10:31] <ajhcasual> but make sure to change to the correct directory first.
[10:31] <amber_> if to type run it says unnknown command
[10:31] <ajhcasual> it is not #run ./name of program
[10:31] <amber_> in xbunty you can run terminal from current directory
[10:31] <Dice> right click in folder on filemanager -> open in terminal, then just ./script.sh
[10:31] <amber_> no, written without #
[10:32] <ajhcasual> listen to the pro...
[10:32] <amber_> ./sccript.sh do nothing
[10:32] <ajhcasual> "Open terminal here"
[10:32] <amber_> but if to chmod x ./script.sh then it silent do something. and if to bash ./script.sh it says something about permissions denied
[10:32] <Dice> I guess your script isn't named script.sh
[10:33] <ajhcasual> I'd do it except for MY problem with preferred applications :(
[10:33] <amber_> yes It is different named and I know that it is not script named ,just for shorting
[10:34] <Dice> oh, sorry
[10:34] <Dice> ajhcasual: try searching for pref in appfinder
[10:34] <ajhcasual> did you use "chmod a+x ./script_name.sh" ?
[10:34] <amber_> nah is okey, just hard to remember names, and it doesnot matter, so operating with default names that I will change to what currently need is okey
[10:34] <amber_> no. didnot used a+x
[10:35] <amber_> and what is difference between a+x and x?
[10:35] <Dice> a = all,  x = execute (run)
[10:36] <Dice> IDK if +x is same as u+x or a+x (u = user)
[10:36] <amber_> erm okey I will try, I am currently on reinstalling Xubuntu. so only in browser can chat. But if it will helps to remove permissions restriction that it wrotes?
[10:36] <Dice> unix file permissions have three stages, user, group and other
[10:37] <ajhcasual> because "chmod x" seems not to work on my end
[10:37] <ajhcasual> so I suggested a+x
[10:37] <amber_> chmod +x was recomendation on first 23 pages of google
[10:37] <amber_> okey I will try a+x
[10:37] <ajhcasual> +x also works, just not "x" by itself
[10:37] <amber_> "chmod +x" not "chmod x"
[10:38] <amber_> yes chmod +x I tried.. that it says with premissions denied
[10:38] <Dice> +x to a+x doesn't make difference if file is owned by you, which may not be case for file extracted from tarball
[10:40] <ajhcasual> dice: I just tried +x, and it is the same as a+x with a file I am the owner and group owner of.
[10:40] <ajhcasual> go figure.
[10:41] <ajhcasual> amber: use "ls -l" and who is the owner of your script?
[10:41] <Dice> ls -l script.sh shows permissions/owner ('read write execute' in order 'user group other')
[10:43] <amber_> Thank you all, I quess I need to find another ubuntu based system without forcing me to make hard movements instead of just what written in instruction to program. Going to download pure ubuntu then. (Second day of reinstalling.. and all I wanted was to install Windows 8. but it refuses cause Xubuntu broke boot sector of disk and now no of Win system installs, even afted delete reformat parition. Only 10.10 Ubuntu and Xubuntu )
[10:45] <Dice> if you want to empty your (first) drive, "dd if=dev/zero of=/dev/sda" should leave MBR in condition windows can write to
[10:46] <Dice> you can kill dd with Ctrl C after 10s
[10:46] <amber_> no, I want my data parition not be touched. it is 400GB and I am will be very upset if it will be lost
[10:46] <ajhcasual> amber, if you're frustrated, now isn't the time to mess with dd...
[10:47] <Dice> windows *should* be able to overwrite MBR anyway, if disk isn't broken
[10:47] <Dice> I had to use repair disk twice to make it happen, there's also some more manual way with it
[10:48] <amber_> like Ubunty 11.04, Win says about not having drivers for current hard disk. Thought it fine operates from Live CD Xubuntu, and 10.10 Ubuntu
[10:48] <Dice> sounds like missing chipset driver
[10:48] <ajhcasual> Dice: even the application finder uses the bad icons for terminal emulator, web browser etc, and I still get a pop-up asking to select preferred application (dropdown menu empty)
[10:49] <amber_> no. it says on a installing phase, not on GUI
[10:50] <Dice> ajhcasual: oh, I though that dialog itself was had gone missing
[10:50] <Dice> what if you manually place command? like "firefox"
[10:52] <Dice> if it just forgets it, you probably need to blank some setting(s)
[10:52] <ajhcasual> the icon start->internet->firefox works fine, it is only the icon start->web browser, that is one of the affected ones.
[10:53] <ajhcasual> And these "preferred" applications were fine in the default install, it was only after the first wave of updates did they get un-configured.
[10:53] <ajhcasual> And I was looking to report it as a bug, but launchpad won't allow me.  so I am here.
[10:54] <ajhcasual> Alternately, I would be happy with a .sh script that could backup my preffered applications manually before updates.
[10:54] <ajhcasual> (I am installing on several pcs)
[10:55] <Dice> it probably wouldn't be fixed because 11.10 isn't LTS and uses old version of xfce
[10:57] <ajhcasual> dice: ok then I will forget about it in 11.10.  I can select /usr/bin/firefox from the dialogue, after which it sets its command to
[10:57] <ajhcasual> "/usr/bin/firefox "%s"
[10:58] <ajhcasual> and it does remember it.  The one I cant figure out is the terminal... what is the name of the terminal binary?
[10:58] <Dice> xfce4-terminal
[10:59] <ajhcasual> ok, thx, that will solve it for 11.10.  I hope it isnt a problem when I switch to 12.04.
[11:02] <ajhcasual> Now how can I find out which config file holds these, so I can write a .sh to manually back it up before updating?
[11:03] <ajhcasual> a find command maybe..
[11:09] <ajhcasual> is  ctime the right value to search for the config file that "preffered applications" just updated?
[11:10] <ajhcasual> brb re-loggin into session
[11:17] <ajhcasual> back
[11:17] <ajhcasual> the preferred applications are preserved after I logged out.  so the only problem is the updates wiping them in the first place
[11:19] <ajhcasual> #find /etc /home/user/ -mmin 30 produces nothing?
[11:19] <ajhcasual> arrgh.
[11:38] <xubuntunewb> Can anyone help me fix an unknown format error on my pc screen?
[11:38] <Mathsterk> yeh
[11:40] <xubuntunewb> how can I fix it?
[11:41] <Mathsterk> laptop or desktop?
[11:42] <xubuntunewb> desktop. A borrowed monitor works and the monitor works attached to my laptop
[11:55] <Mathsterk> xubuntunewb: maybe a resolution problem?
[11:57] <xubuntunewb> I tried changing the resolution and the problem persisted, I also tried to plug it in as a second monitor however linux refuses to pick it up.
[12:05] <ajhcasual> I found the config files that contain the preferred applications.  If I write a script to make backup copies, then I should be able to restore the preferred applications after updates are complete.
[12:06] <ajhcasual> unless the updates are changing entirely the directory structure or the format of the launchers...
[12:06] <Dice> uhm, why are you not using newest, LTS, version of xubuntu?
[12:12] <ajhcasual> I guess I have a tendency to stick with a certain version for a longer while.  I am still deciding whether to use Xubuntu or stick with ubuntu 9.
[12:13] <ajhcasual> 10 wont work on my hardware, and don't get me started on unity.
[12:13] <Mathsterk> ajhcasual: unity
[12:13] <ajhcasual> dont
[12:14] <Mathsterk> :P
[12:15] <ajhcasual> I really think that Xubuntu ought to become the most popular variant, given that KDE is limited to those with new computers.
[12:16] <ajhcasual> Also: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=100787
[12:20] <martinphone> how do I manually delete an unused acces icon and add other with the correct path?
[12:21] <martinphone> its a wine app, I dont see wine apps editing mode with right click
[12:21] <Mathsterk> i just delete them :P
[12:22] <martinphone> how?
[12:22] <Mathsterk> rm or delete-button
[12:22] <Mathsterk> or dragging them to the trash bin
[12:23] <martinphone> from winetricks?
[12:25] <martinphone> i dragged to bin, icon is still there
[14:32] <xubuntu790> total newbie here. Have a laptop I inherited with xubuntu on it.   ask for user and password which aunt mildred has no idea on.   what do i do to reset or override.
[14:49] <holstein> xubuntu790: you can reset the password with the recovery at boot
[14:50] <holstein> xubuntu790: check out http://linuxtipstricks.wordpress.com/2009/07/04/ho-to-reset-ubuntu-password-kubuntu-xubuntu-gos-mint-and-other-ubuntu-based-oss/ and see if that helps
[16:57] <kaben> Hi all :)  anyone had this problem with wine "couldn't load module: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so" I have 12.04_64 xubuntu and both 32 and 64 bit wine 1.4 installed. link to 64bit file doesn't work. can't find another solution
[19:40] <kaben> Hi all :) can anyone help with this? "couldn't load module: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so" I have 12.04_64 xubuntu and both 32 and 64 bit wine 1.4 installed. link to 64bit file doesn't work. can't find another solution
[19:41] <holstein> kaben: what windows application? have you removed and respawned ~/.wine ? do you have that module? what is calling for that module you think?
[19:43] <kaben> I'm trying to run a car workshop manual from a virtual disc
[19:44] <kaben> I did remove .wine when I was using furiousmount and gmount, now tried cdemu because it always never found disc and on surface the problem seems the same
[19:44] <kaben> I'll try it again now
[19:50] <kaben> holstein: nope same problem, after respawn and reinstall it says insert cd, and then errors "run-time error 429 ; ActiveX component can't create object"
[19:52] <kaben> and when I run from cl i get same missing file error
[19:53] <holstein> kaben: you might need to insert the CD
[19:53] <holstein> kaben: i would look at wineHQ, and not expect magic.. this is also something you could seek support for in the more general ubuntu support venues, or wine
[19:53] <kaben> only have the image running in virtual drive
[19:54] <holstein> kaben: maybe you are not "allowed" to do that with that software
[19:55] <holstein> maybe you need an actual physical disk, and im sure there are work arounds, and the first place i would look would be wineHQ, but i wont be able to help you get around a licensing issue
[19:55] <kaben> yep, on wine hq they say its a ubuntu problem, and on ubuntu forums only fix i found is a symlink which doesn't work for me
[19:55] <holstein> they?... you mean someone at wine says its an ubuntu issue?
[19:56] <holstein> who? have they filed a bug report?... you could ask them to
[19:56] <kaben> its not  alicencing issue, it works perfectly on windows with magicdisc, I just dont want to use windows ;)
[19:56] <holstein> sure, but magic disk is a way to "get around" a licensing issue, is it not?
[19:56] <holstein> you are expected to use the disk...
[19:56] <kaben> yep there are some about the same file being missing
[19:57] <kaben> hmm, spose so
[19:57] <kaben> I will keep digging, thanks for your help :)
[19:57] <holstein> sure... id try #wine and/or #ubuntu
[19:58] <kaben> ok thx
[20:40] <PrivateReese> hey guys i just deleted my /boot because of some issues with windows 7 and grub
[20:40] <PrivateReese> can someone tell me how to fix it
[20:40] <PrivateReese> only grub is in /boot now?
[20:46] <holstein> i would just recover grub
[20:46] <holstein> !grub | PrivateReese
[20:46] <holstein> check out the restore grub option
[20:46] <PrivateReese> yeah grub2 i got but i somehow deleted my vmlinux and initframs files
[20:48] <PrivateReese> is it usual that just a folder grub is in the /boot partition
[20:51] <holstein> its not typical to have a /boot partition... i would look at how you customized the installation, and try and recover that partition you removed
[20:51] <holstein> otherwise, i would literally follow those steps to recover GRUB and see what you need to make that work for you
[20:53] <PrivateReese> i got a boot partition because i encrypted the whole system and boot hast to boot at first
[20:53] <PrivateReese> i tried to restore grub with the manuals you also gave me and it resulted in an almost empty /boot partition
[20:54] <holstein> PrivateReese: sure.. im just saying that not the typical installation method, and if you are experiencing breakage, you might need to put in place those cusomizations again
[20:54] <holstein> customizations*
[20:55] <holstein> should be fixable... but you'll need what was in that partition back somewhere..
[20:55] <PrivateReese> yeah maybe a systemreinstall will do it for me
[20:55] <PrivateReese> because xubuntu was also broken a little bit from the start
[23:24] <xubuntu407> new to xubuntu how do I play cds?
[23:33] <well_laid_lawn> !info xubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:35] <well_laid_lawn> try installing that xubuntu407
[23:51] <xubuntu493> hello,
[23:52] <xubuntu493>  problem installing Xubuntu on an old Fujitsu Athlon 2600
[23:53] <v1adimir> what's the problem? :(
[23:55] <xubuntu493> . (same with Lubuntu). Ubuntu 10.4 installed OK, but
[23:56] <xubuntu493> hello, the install gets clugged and the disc is read non-stop for hours, nothing happens after first dialogue box.
[23:57] <xubuntu493> I checksummed the cd.