[00:00] <usr13> Wiz_KeeD: (I have never installed flashplugin-installer, don't know why I would....)
[00:01] <Wiz_KeeD> Package adobe-flashplugin is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[00:01] <usr13> Wiz_KeeD: Ok, just a sec...
[00:01] <trism> Wiz_KeeD: usr13 need to enable partner to get adobe-flashplugin
[00:01] <trism> !partner
[00:02] <usr13> Wiz_KeeD: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:03] <Wiz_KeeD> i did that usr13
[00:03] <usr13> Wiz_KeeD: Ok, just a sec.
[00:03] <blackshirt> anyone from uns solo?
[00:03] <Wiz_KeeD> maybe it was too late, and the former version got allready installed?
[00:03] <Wiz_KeeD> you suggest doing that trism?
[00:04] <trism> Wiz_KeeD: no, was just pointing out where the package was, I use the flashplugin-installer package (which just downloads the plugin from partner without adding it)
[00:04] <usr13> Wiz_KeeD: 32bit or 64?
[00:04] <Wiz_KeeD> and how does it work for you trism ?
[00:04] <Wiz_KeeD> 64 bit usr13
[00:04] <tired_old_man> perhaps you are using the wrong default java.... $ sudo update-alternatives --config java
[00:04] <tired_old_man>  $ sudo update-alternatives --config mozilla-javaplugin.so
[00:05] <Dr_willis> Wiz_KeeD,  you have done a 'sudo apt-get update' recently?
[00:05] <Wiz_KeeD> Dr_willis, it's a fresh install, ran it 2 days ago
[00:05] <Wiz_KeeD> 3 max
[00:06] <trism> Wiz_KeeD: which browser do you use? could check about::plugins or chrome://plugins to see which version is being used
[00:06] <Wiz_KeeD> i tried chrome and firefox
[00:06] <petoo> hi
[00:06] <Wiz_KeeD> but i'd like to use firefox
[00:06] <usr13> Wiz_KeeD: http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.236-0precise1_amd64.deb
[00:06] <petoo> where should I put my JAVA_HOME variable?
[00:07] <Wiz_KeeD> i don't even see adobe plugin there trism
[00:07] <tima-s> Hi all. I guess I had found a bug
[00:08] <trism> Wiz_KeeD: it could be that it failed to download, may try removing flashplugin-installer, adding partner and installing adobe-flashplugin as usr13 suggests (or might try: sudo apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-installer;)
[00:08] <trism> Wiz_KeeD: I know I had a few problems with the plugin not downloading when they switched to the update-notifier hooks
[00:09] <Wiz_KeeD> Failure to download extra data filesName-
[00:09] <Wiz_KeeD> on reinstall
[00:09] <Wiz_KeeD> in a gui window
[00:09] <nannes> Wiz_KeeD: Can you please post the output of  lshw -c cpu
[00:10] <usr13> Wiz_KeeD: adobe flashplayer is in Canonical Partner ppa. Setup repository with:  sudo sh -c 'echo "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ natty partner" >> \
[00:10] <usr13> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/canonical_partner.list'
[00:10] <nannes> Old CPUs are not totally compatible with the newer versions of AdobeFlashPlugin
[00:10] <qubit> I've got a fresh install of ubuntu precise on a pandaboard. However attempting to install the PowerVR SGX drivers results in "package or module not installed, aborting". Full jockey log at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1102694/
[00:11] <tima-s> The bug is that the date in the calendar which is shown by click on the clock is not correct
[00:11] <Wiz_KeeD> http://pastie.org/4292701
[00:11] <usr13> Wiz_KeeD:  http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/canonical_partner?dist=natty
[00:11] <Wiz_KeeD> nannes,
[00:11] <nannes> lolno, it's an intel i3 :)
[00:12] <Wiz_KeeD> haha
[00:12] <trism> Wiz_KeeD: yeah that sounds like it, try: sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-installer; then add partner and install adobe-flashplugin
[00:12] <Wiz_KeeD> if i knew that was the problem i would have told you
[00:12] <trism> usr13: he said he was on 12.04, so that should be precise
[00:12] <Wiz_KeeD> does purge actually eliminate EVERYTHING related to that packacge?
[00:12] <Wiz_KeeD> and how did i add that repository again trism?
[00:12] <trism> !partner | Wiz_KeeD
[00:12] <BlouBlou> purge is remove + configuration file removal
[00:12] <trism> Wiz_KeeD: command at the end
[00:13] <petoo> hi , where should I put my JAVA_HOME variable? There are many profile files,
[00:13] <rypervenche> petoo: ~/.bashrc will work fine.
[00:13] <Dr_willis> Wiz_KeeD,   purge does not touch anything in the users home dirs. :) neither does the normal apt-get remove.
[00:13] <Wiz_KeeD> Dr_willis, this means that it will still be "messy" ?
[00:13] <trism> Wiz_KeeD: you'll then need to: sudo apt-get update; before sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin;
[00:13] <Wiz_KeeD> trism, doesn't that mean that i'll install ALL updates available?
[00:13] <Dr_willis> Wiz_KeeD,  no idea what you mean.. the apt-get system does NOT touch any settings or config files in the users home dirs..
[00:14] <Wiz_KeeD> i really don't want to do that..
[00:14] <BlouBlou> Wiz_KeeD: if you want to remove everything related with that package, use autoremove
[00:14] <usr13> Wiz_KeeD: uname -a  #What does it say?...
[00:14] <trism> Wiz_KeeD: no update just updates the repository information
[00:14] <Dr_willis> Wiz_KeeD,  it would be very bad if it did. :)
[00:14] <trism> Wiz_KeeD: upgrade and dist-upgrade are the arguments that will upgrade softare
[00:14] <Wiz_KeeD> BlouBlou, apt-autoremove?
[00:14] <trism> Wiz_KeeD: software
[00:14] <petoo> rypervenche: will it work for other users if they log into my machine?
[00:15] <rypervenche> petoo: Nope.
[00:15] <nannes> Wiz_KeeD: You could just purge the flashplugin-installer, install the one from launchpad (without adding any repo, just downloading & installind .deb file)
[00:15] <rypervenche> petoo: You'll want the one in /etc then
[00:15] <Wiz_KeeD> i'd go for the repo first, then maybe a deb
[00:15] <petoo> rypervenche: then how can I make it available for everyone
[00:15] <nannes> and then appurate the presence of libflashplayer.so  in firefox's plugin dir
[00:15] <Dr_willis> I just use a flashreplacer extension that plays flash video in VLC. :)
[00:16] <petoo> rypervenche: where exactly in /etc? /etc/profile?
[00:17] <rypervenche> petoo: I'm not so sure on Ubuntu, can someone answer that?
[00:17] <wayne> Hello all
[00:18] <nannes> lol, Pi ↑
[00:18] <petoo> yea
[00:18] <wayne> I haven't been on here in quite some time
[00:18] <wayne> Was hoping I could get some help today
[00:18] <petoo> wasted his pc's computin g power
[00:18] <bonhoeffer> how can i edit a launcher to point to a new script?
[00:18] <wayne> So if someone is available please let me know
[00:19] <escott> !info alacarte | bonhoeffer, you could try alacarte, although its usually for creating new entreis
[00:20] <wayne> I was wondering how to speed up boot time I am running Ubuntu 10.10
[00:20] <Wiz_KeeD> eheeyy
[00:20] <Wiz_KeeD> praise my brothers
[00:20] <Wiz_KeeD> it worked
[00:20] <Wiz_KeeD> you guys are great! :D
[00:20] <r0tha> wayne: get a SSD
[00:20] <OerHeks> wayne, see the topic, 10.10 is no longer supported. so maybe upgrade ?
[00:20] <Wiz_KeeD> this is exactly why there is no possible bigger force on the concept of software than opensource
[00:21] <Wiz_KeeD> thanks a lot guys! :D
[00:21] <Dr_willis> bonhoeffer,  I belive ive right-clicked/properties on some launcher  or .desktop files on the desktop and edited some things on them
[00:21] <OerHeks> r0tha, true, a SSD makes a lot of fun
[00:21] <Dr_willis> Wiz_KeeD,  I just use a flashreplacer extension that plays flash video in VLC. :)   No need for flash for me for most sites
[00:21] <wayne> Hmm
[00:22] <wayne> I really like Gnome 2
[00:22] <tima-s> so , that the date in the calendar is not correct - it is normal? ))
[00:22] <r0tha> SSD + 11.10 = perfect boottime
[00:23] <wayne> Thanks but right now SSD's aren't an option for me.
[00:23] <OerHeks> i saved 9 sec boottime by disabling IPv6
[00:23] <OerHeks> 9/26
[00:23]  * Reactor HI ALL
[00:23] <wayne> Thanks 0erHeks
[00:23] <OerHeks> !ipv6
[00:23] <ceege> if you do the SSD thing, be sure to align the partitions and filesystem, use deadline/noop i/o scheduler, and set noatime, nodiratime in /etc/fstab
[00:23] <bonhoeffer> Dr_willis, i can't edit via right click -- i tried that -- i read online to drag to desktop, right click, i'll try that
[00:24] <Wiz_KeeD> Dr_willis, most sites? and doesn't it run slower or smth?
[00:24] <ceege> then everything is way faster
[00:24] <bonhoeffer> hmm. . . can't drag to desktop
[00:24] <Dr_willis> Wiz_KeeD,  never noticed any speed issues.. It plays in a vlc window in the browser, or external vlc player.
[00:24] <wayne> I have been using Ubuntu since 2010, but I am eager to be more of a power user with it
[00:24] <qubit> I've got a fresh install of ubuntu precise on a pandaboard. However attempting to install the PowerVR SGX drivers results in "package or module not installed, aborting". Full jockey log at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1102694/
[00:25] <Reactor> any one can tell me where i find list of runnig process from /proc/ folder ?
[00:25] <Dr_willis> Reactor,  you mean the 'ps
[00:25] <Reactor> ya
[00:25] <Dr_willis> Reactor,  you mean the 'ps' command?
[00:25] <Reactor> Dr_willis, yes
[00:25] <Dr_willis> ps ax :) or any of a dozen options
[00:25] <wayne> Has anyone else had problems using Guvcviewer with Ubuntu 12.04
[00:25] <wayne> ?
[00:26] <Reactor> Dr_willis, but i don't want to use ps i want to get it from /proc directely
[00:26] <Reactor> you know path ?
[00:26] <Reactor> like /proc/cpuinfo ,to see cpu running on your box
[00:26] <Dr_willis> Reactor,  never noticed.. or needed to. its  directory/tree layout - so not sure if there is a single file
[00:27] <Reactor> can i get it by name ?
[00:30] <ceege> if you look in /proc the # directories correspond to the process ID. you can then cat /proc/#/status
[00:32] <usr13> wayne: Do you have 11.10?
[00:36] <usr13> wayne: Do you have 10.10 or 11.10?
[00:37] <usr13> wayne: lsb_release -a
[00:40] <usr13> ps aux |grep 1429
[00:40] <usr13> ps aux |grep 1416
[00:43] <usr13> ooops sorry, wrong channel
[00:43] <Andril> hello all
[00:45] <gr33n7007h> Is there an emulator for NES ROM's in the ubuntu repositories, as fceu doesn't want to work?
[00:45] <gr33n7007h> Is there an emulator for NES ROM's in the ubuntu repositories, as fceu doesn't want to work?
[00:46] <r0tha> gr33n7007h: sudo aptitude search NES
[00:46] <wayne> yes
[00:48] <wolfie_> http://linuxgamingtoday.wordpress.com/2008/09/14/how-to-install-emulators-on-ubuntu-nes-edition/
[00:50] <gr33n7007h> Is there a emulator in ubuntu repositories for NES ROM's, as fceu doesn't want to work?
[00:51] <bugaloo> gr33n7007h,  zsnes
[00:52] <gr33n7007h> bugaloo, I just can't compile it!
[00:53] <gr33n7007h> bugaloo, ignore that last comment!
[00:54] <gr33n7007h> bugaloo, and thanks
[00:54] <bugaloo> hehe
[01:05] <TiZ> So I've got this weird thing going on with my logitech wireless mouse, where if I leave it idle for a while, like when I'm typing, it stops responding until I shake it vigorously, then it starts moving like normal. What do I do to fix this?
[01:06] <xorfish> hi all!
[01:09] <escott> TiZ, perhaps it is going to sleep
[01:09] <xorfish> when in openfirmware, typing dir cd;, \ I get a directory structure, however, typing any contained returns an error, eg dir cd:, \install\ fails... any suggestions?
[01:12] <xorfish> trying to locate yaboot for boot install through OF
[01:12] <TiZ> escott: That's strange. That doesn't happen when I plug it into the windows laptop sitting next to me. How do I stop it from doing that?
[01:14] <escott> TiZ, not sure why it would be different on linux. i would have thought this would be an issue with the firmware in the mouse
[01:14] <TiZ> escott: I don't know either. :/
[01:14] <xorfish> usb mouse?
[01:15] <trism> TiZ: I know it happens to me if I enable the autosuspend for the mouse in the tunables section of powertop (it's not enabled by default though)
[01:16] <TiZ> trism: But laptop-mode-tools might be doing it.
[01:17] <TiZ> trism: Alright, that fixed it, I think. Thank you.
[01:21] <Jonii> My Zenbook Elantech clickpad does not work well with Ubuntu 12.04
[01:22] <Jonii> It frequently starts miscounting the number of fingers that are on the pad. Last time I lost the ability to move the cursor, and two-finger stretch manipulated the size and place of windows
[01:23] <Jonii> Usually it loses ability to drag&drop, and also starts miscounting by not allowing 4 finger tap, interpreting 4 finger tap as 3 finger tap
[01:23] <L3top> Clean it?
[01:23] <L3top> I keed I keed.
[01:24] <ghostchick> bz,ping
[01:25] <Jonii> L3top: that has nothing to do with is. It's a software bug. Restarting X always fixes it
[01:26] <L3top> It was an inappropriate joke for this channel. Sorry. I know nothing of multitouch in buntu. Again... sorry...
[01:26] <naryfa> Hello, can anybody tell me how do I uninstall gnome-shell but leave some of its applications like evolution, transmission ?
[01:26] <naryfa> how would I add an option to omit those
[01:27] <escott> naryfa, you can just install those applications as one-off applications
[01:27] <L3top> naryfa: most that you install will install those as well, and the configs will not be destroyed (in general) by a simple remove...
[01:27] <L3top> by most that you install I mean most DMs that you would install
[01:28] <naryfa> escott: are you sure about those configs? because that's what I want to keep heheheh
[01:28] <escott> naryfa, the configs are in your home directory which is never touched by apt
[01:28] <naryfa> sorry that was to L3top
[01:28] <naryfa> nice
[01:28] <naryfa> much appreciated
[01:28] <naryfa> so just reinstall the missing apps
[01:28] <xorfish> has anyone else had any issues booting 12.04 to a clean system?
[01:29] <naryfa> xorfish: what's the issue?
[01:29] <L3top> naryfa: typically remove, removes the application but leaves the config behind... which is really the majority of the rationalle behind remove --purge
[01:29] <L3top> !anyone
[01:29] <xorfish> Unable to boot from cd in any 12 version
[01:30] <bz> test
[01:30] <L3top> This is not foolproof naryfa... but has never failed me personally
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> xorfish: what happens when you try?
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> !test | bz
[01:30] <bz> ActionParsnip: thanks.
[01:30] <xorfish> sends me too the blue screen which blinks "?/Smiley"
[01:31] <L3top> Huh?
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> xorfish: what gpu do you use?
[01:31] <xorfish> its a powermac g5 ... board is 2004
[01:32] <naryfa> I don't know much about it but would alternative install help?
[01:32] <L3top> xorfish: is it PPC?
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> xorfish: try the boot option: nomodeset
[01:32] <naryfa> ActionParsnip: oh that that
[01:32]  * L3top is not familiar with mac gens
[01:32] <naryfa> I used that on Arch
[01:32] <xorfish> unsure...
[01:32] <naryfa> try
[01:32] <L3top> xorfish: there is a specific iso for PPC
[01:32] <naryfa> Ok, let me get rid of gnome shell, brb
[01:33] <xorfish> right... tried that
[01:33] <escott> xorfish, L3top yes that is PPC
[01:33] <Andril> can a noob user get a bit of help?
[01:33] <xorfish> alright... so at boot try the desktop-ppc?
[01:34] <xi32> Does anybody know if US dial-up 56k modems work in Japan? I believe RJ11 is one of the standards in use in Japan although I don't know if that is the only thing you have to worry about.
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> Andril: ask and see
[01:34] <Andril> i need help with this "W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/main i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages)"
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> xi32: RJ11 is the connector used in all 56Kbps modems
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> Andril: can you give a PASTEBIN of the output of:  grep -R partner /etc/apt/*
[01:35] <jagginess> xi32, my bet is they dont.
[01:35] <xi32> ActionParsnip: does that mean every 56k modem should work worldwide as a general rule? I know I read there were some modems that didn't work in the US due to com ports only supporting up to like 8 and the US ISPs generally ran on 13. or something like that.
[01:35] <L3top> Andril: typically running sudo apt-get update twice typically fixes that... but you can look at your /etc/apt/sources.list and delete any duplicates.
[01:35] <escott> !ppc | xorfish
[01:35] <benassi> any good game for linux?
[01:36] <jagginess> xi32, you'll have to see the telecomm specs in japan, and see if n.a ones are compatible..
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> benassi: depends what sort of game you like. I love Urban Terror and the Penumbra series
[01:36] <DWSR> Anyone that can help me get hybrid graphics working with my HP laptop? I've tried building fglrx from source, and also using the packages in the Precise repos, but as soon as I try to configure X to use them, it complains about low-graphics mode. Any help?
[01:36] <ceege> sometimes apt sources get put in /etc/apt/sources.d/ as well
[01:36] <Andril> L3top thanks
[01:36] <xorfish> escott: Bookmark! thanks!
[01:37] <Andril> ActionParsnip thanks
[01:37] <benassi> ActionParsnip  well on win7 I played just CoD and strategies...(like high resolutin games)..
[01:37] <benassi> :)
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> ceege: hence '-R' ;)
[01:37] <benassi> and strategies
[01:38] <L3top> DWSR: I can try. I have a good understanding of the interaction... but hybrids are terribly unsupported, and my positive results are about 1 in 3. ATI is particularly buggered.
[01:38] <xorfish> escott, L3top: will return with good news, perhaps!
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> benassi: there are Linux games, alien arena wins lots of awards too
[01:38] <L3top> DWSR: can you tell me what you have done thus far? On one line please?
[01:39] <TheWhiteHatter> I like flare
[01:39] <TheWhiteHatter> It's a good game
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> benassi: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/06/adventure-game-journey-down-now-half-price-in-ubuntu-software-center
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> benassi: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/07/alien-arena-quake-for-linux
[01:40] <DWSR>  L3top: I've tried following the HybridGraphics guide in the Wiki (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics), the community forum post (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1930450), and just tried to get the Catalyst Control Center to DO anything. Nothing has worked properly.
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> benassi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmzOS4H4o84
[01:40]  * L3top notes that japan has among the highest bandwidth infrastructure in the world, and the price per is cheaper there than anywhere in the world...
[01:41] <TheWhiteHatter> Planning on moving?
[01:42]  * TheWhiteHatter wants to move to a snowy country, like Sweden.  TheWhiteHatter likes Sweden
[01:42] <L3top> DWSR: two questions... 1 does your bios give you the ability to ONLY enable the discrete GPU. 2 have you been trying to use vga-switcheroo?
[01:42] <DWSR> L3top: No and no.
[01:42] <L3top> Ugh.
[01:43] <DWSR> I'm going to look for a BIOS update for my computer right now.
[01:43] <L3top> DWSR: please in a terminal type sudo update-pciids      and then give me the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA   it will be 2 lines.
[01:44] <TheWhiteHatter> Should I try updating my BIOS?
[01:44] <L3top> DWSR: I would not put a whole lot of hope in the update basket.
[01:44] <TheWhiteHatter> My computer IS 6 years old
[01:44] <L3top> TheWhiteHatter: for you? Yes.... that might indeed give you some hope.
[01:45]  * L3top likes Denmark.
[01:45] <jagginess> TheWhiteHatter, usually it doesnt make much difference.. unless you're having some problems and are listed as solved with change release notes
[01:45] <TheWhiteHatter> is that sarcasm?
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> TheWhiteHatter: depends what the upgrades fix and if you are affected by what they fix
[01:45] <L3top> No It is not.
[01:45] <TheWhiteHatter> okay
[01:45] <TheWhiteHatter> how does one go about updating said bios?
[01:45] <Andril> hey ActionParsnip http://paste.ubuntu.com/1102775/
[01:46] <L3top> His issue is that (some of) his laptop fans do not operate in linux ActionParsnip.
[01:46] <DWSR> L3top: Also on the phone with HP tech support to get some parts ordered in under warranty, bear with me.
[01:46] <TheWhiteHatter> I seem to be doing okay
[01:46] <TheWhiteHatter> I thought you had dial-up?
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> L3top: you'd need to check what the new thing fixes, its good to keep updated though
[01:47] <TheWhiteHatter> thought DWSR was l3top
[01:47] <TheWhiteHatter> my bad
[01:47] <TheWhiteHatter> the names are the same color on my end
[01:47] <L3top> I am near dialup. I am .5mbps dl and .10 up TheWhiteHatter.
[01:47] <TheWhiteHatter> L3top: how do I update bios?
[01:47] <DWSR> L3top: Yes, I( get two lines. You want pastebin?
[01:47] <L3top> Depends on the machine TheWhiteHatter. You will need to consult the manufactueres website.
[01:47] <TheWhiteHatter> Oky Dokey
[01:48] <DWSR> L3top: apparently Unity doesn't like my graphics adapter now.
[01:48] <L3top> ActionParsnip: I say keeping your temps in check is worth whatever else it breaks
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> Andril: try:  sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.bkp.2012-06-02_11-41-12; sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.distUpgrade; sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.save
[01:48] <L3top> DWSR: its two lines... just paste them here.
[01:48] <DWSR> L3top: Not on IRC from the same machine. Let me type, sec.
[01:48] <L3top> !ssh | DWSR
[01:49] <DWSR> L3top: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300] : Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0046] (rev 02)
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> Andril: you have some fluff there, that  should clean up
[01:49] <killer_> while running cod i get "http://paste.ubuntu.com/1102779/"
[01:49] <TheWhiteHatter> okay going to update bios
[01:49] <TheWhiteHatter> brb
[01:49] <xorfish> TheWhiteHatter: determine your Bios and which version you have before updating.. helps ensure you locate the correct update path
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> Andril: also run: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1102780/
[01:50] <DWSR> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300] : Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Manhattan [Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series] [1002:68e0]
[01:50]  * L3top raspberries at screen
[01:51] <L3top> DWSR: what version of fglrx are you on now please (apt-cache policy fglrx | grep -i installed)
[01:51] <L3top> DWSR: do you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file? If so I would like it in a pastebin
[01:52] <DWSR> 2.:8.961-0ubuntu1
[01:52] <DWSR> And sec for pastebin
[01:55] <DWSR> L3top: xorg.conf doesn't exist, but it appears some backups from my failed attempts do.
[01:56] <DWSR> Would you like a pastebin of those?
[01:56] <L3top> dont need them.
[01:56] <DWSR> mkay.
[01:57] <DWSR> btw, tty7 displays the login screen properly, then when I login I don't get a desktop.
[01:57] <L3top> What I would like a pastebin of is: xrandr -q
[01:57] <DWSR> I just see my desktop. No shell.
[01:57] <L3top> So long as X is active... that will work DWSR
[01:57] <DWSR> Can't open display.
[01:58] <L3top> What is currently displayed on tty7 DWSR?
[01:58] <DWSR> My wallpaper and the cursor.
[01:58] <DWSR> That's it.
[01:58] <xorfish> back... ppc disk at book brought me through a grey>black>blinky screen
[01:59] <xorfish> *boot
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> xorfish: tried the boot option?
[01:59] <L3top> On tty2 or whatever, please try DISPLAY=:0 xrandr -q
[01:59] <DWSR> Can't open display :0
[01:59] <decci> I have openLDAP configured on my Ubuntu machine. All I need is adding 3 groups: Enterprise1, Enterprise2 and Enterprise 3 plus few users to each group..How can I doit?
[02:00] <L3top> capitalized, correct DWSR?
[02:00] <DWSR> sec.
[02:00] <xorfish> ActionParsnip: I tried pressing "c" to boot from disc... no avail... then to OF and tried boot cd:, \install\yaboot
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | xorfish
[02:01] <TheWhiteHatter> What do I use to bunr .iso images to CD in ubuntu?
[02:01] <xangua> brasero TheWhiteHatter
[02:01] <TheWhiteHatter> ty
[02:02] <TheWhiteHatter> Ubuntu doesn't see my disc...
[02:02] <DWSR> L3top: http://pastebin.com/1iF5nPiZ
[02:02] <DWSR> L3top: Sorry, just got off the phone with the completely ******* useless tech support lady.
[02:02] <DWSR> Who can't speak English.
[02:03]  * L3top can't do much if it ISN'T English... or Latin... so... hard to hate.
[02:04] <igotchu> why is ubuntu 12.04 so slow
[02:04] <DWSR> L3top: It's simple. I call FOR ENGLISH TECH SUPPORT.
[02:04] <DWSR> If I do not receive said service, why am I bothering to buy your junk?
[02:04] <DWSR> But I digress.
[02:04] <jagginess> igotchu, because it's cool
[02:04] <igotchu> right>>> it use to be
[02:04] <TheWhiteHatter> xangua: It's telling me there is no disk in the drive
[02:05] <DWSR> L3top: Anyway, the Laptop has an HDMI/VGA output, which is why I assume it says VGA1 disconnected.
[02:05] <DWSR> L3top: And that's the right res for my panel
[02:05] <L3top> LVDS is the laptop monitor. Nothing else is connected.
[02:06] <xorfish> I have to go eat... I will try to return another day. Thank-you for the assistance.
[02:07] <L3top> DWSR: lsmod | grep -Ei '(vesa|fbdev|radeon|intel|fglrx)'
[02:07] <TheWhiteHatter> I reallI really hope this works...
[02:07] <TheWhiteHatter> Actually, before I do something stupid
[02:07] <TheWhiteHatter> I'm going to put the BIOS update iso on my bootable flash drive
[02:07] <TheWhiteHatter> Using a program I loaded in Wine
[02:07] <TheWhiteHatter> Sound safe?
[02:08] <DWSR> L3top: http://pastebin.com/Ke8L10F1
[02:09] <L3top> No
[02:09] <L3top> TheWhiteHatter:
[02:09] <TheWhiteHatter> yes?
[02:09] <TheWhiteHatter> L3top: yes
[02:09] <DWSR> L3top: Unity not starting is a new thing. Before it was starting properly.
[02:09] <DWSR> (It is Unity as the default shell, right? Or are we back to Gnome?)
[02:09] <L3top> I would NOT try and update bios via wine to mount a manufacturers utility. Bad news... bad bad bad news
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> DWSR: Unity is a shell for gnome
[02:10] <TheWhiteHatter> cool
[02:10] <L3top> s/utility/windows utility/
[02:10] <DWSR> ActionParsnip: It's shellception?
[02:11] <TheWhiteHatter> cool, found an ubuntu compatible multiboot usb creator
[02:11] <TheWhiteHatter> is it safe to put the BIOS update .iso on a bootable flash drive?
[02:11] <ActionParsnip> DWSR: it simply replaces gnme-panel as the default shell. It's still Gnome desktop
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> TheWhiteHatter: try with unetbootin
[02:12] <DWSR> ActionParsnip: Shellception sounds cooler.
[02:12] <DWSR> ActionParsnip: :P
[02:12] <TheWhiteHatter> unetbootin only lets me put 1 distro...
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> DWSR: yeah...
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> DWSR: if 3d is giving you issues, try the 2D session
[02:14] <DWSR> ActionParsnip: 1) It wasn't up until just now. I imagine that a complete reconfig of Xorg will probably fix it.
[02:15] <DWSR> 2) I want it to work. Seriously. Why is this so difficult? AMD provides drivers for this.
[02:15] <_cb> All of a sudden I don't have maximize/minmize icons for geany. How do I fix?
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> DWSR: didn'tyou say there was an itel gpu there too?
[02:15] <TheWhiteHatter> Okay, I shall use unetbootin
[02:15] <DWSR> ActionParsnip: Yeah, it's the Intel/AMD hybrid.
[02:15] <TheWhiteHatter> even if it means sacrificing one of my precious flash drives
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> DWSR: therein lies the issue
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> DWSR: if it was ONLY ATi, then it'd be fine
[02:16] <TheWhiteHatter> Ubuntu just experienced it's third "internal error" in 5 minutes
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> TheWhiteHatter: have you tested your RAM using memtest from Grub
[02:18] <TheWhiteHatter> yeah
[02:18] <TheWhiteHatter> about 2 weeks ago
[02:19] <TheWhiteHatter> unetbootin
[02:19] <TheWhiteHatter> whoops, wrong window
[02:21] <goddard> how can i get rid of the toolbar on a second display?
[02:23] <zyx> hello?
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> zyx: howdy
[02:23] <L3top> DWSR: This is almost surely an exercise in futility... your ATI module is loaded, but it is not active on the intel header due to confusion... and I am stretched thin across channels... and I didn't like your SPAEK ANGLISH rant... Your best bet is to purge the fgrlx driver, reinstall the mesa drivers, install vgaswitcheroo, and live with it. I am afraid stuff I wrote needs support. Don't take it personally.
[02:24] <_cb> minimize, maximize,close icons have disapeared for Geany everything else seems ok. How do I fix?
[02:24] <DWSR> L3top: apt-get purge?
[02:25] <DWSR> L3top: Or something else?
[02:25] <zyx> now thats a pain
[02:26] <ActionParsnip> _cb: same in the 2D session?
[02:26] <Topher82> hello all :)
[02:29] <L3top> DWSR: http://pastebin.com/vvSarVVF
[02:29] <Topher82> ok so I got kubuntu 12.04 installed on my SSD and for auto trip enabled (thanks to help from you guys) but like every other boot my bios seems to not be able to see the SSD. reboot another time or two and it seems to run a chkdsk or something on boot (black screen for a long time) then boots just fine.
[02:29] <TheWhiteHatter> L3pot: brasero is telling me my CD is full.
[02:29] <TheWhiteHatter> L3pot: it's brand new
[02:30] <_cb>  /msg NickServ identify cali
[02:30] <L3top> sorry TheWhiteHatter... have to handle stuff I wrote that broke.
[02:30] <L3top> afk
[02:30] <L3top> afchannel really... still.
[02:30] <Topher82> auto trim*
[02:30] <_cb> ActionParsnip yes 2d too
[02:31] <TheWhiteHatter> ActionParsnip: Help with brasero? it says my brand new cd -r is full.
[02:33] <ActionParsnip> TheWhiteHatter: try xfburn
[02:33] <TheWhiteHatter> installing now
[02:34] <zyx> oooh. .  google said this is really a chat room. . . hahaha what a noob i am. googling IRC hahah
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> zyx: its a support channel, chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:35] <TheWhiteHatter> #ubuntu-offtopic is a chat room
[02:37] <TheWhiteHatter> xfburn works great!
[02:37] <Topher82> I'm just trying to decide if this is a linux, laptop, or SSD issue. it's like the bios just randomly likes to not see the SSD
[02:39] <zyx> oh thanks for that  great info. "is a chat": noted. it just confuses me, seeing this codes in front of me. i feel like im inside an IDE.
[02:39] <TheWhiteHatter> now xfburn is hung at 99%
[02:40] <ma111> I got a bit funny question, for hunspell or ispell users, can I change the spelling suggestions to start at 1 and not at 0 ?
[02:40] <ma111> it's not the most natural way for me to need both hands for correcting the spelling, it used be from 1 up, not its from 0 up
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> TheWhiteHatter: 99% of what?
[02:41] <NiKon> how do you hook up ones xbox i got a switch and i setup a dns dhcp on my computer still dont know what is up
[02:41] <TheWhiteHatter> burning the disk
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> NiKon: how do you mean 'hook up'?
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> TheWhiteHatter: give it a while..
[02:43] <NiKon> link xbox with network on the switch
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> NiKon: can you ping the IP of the xbox?
[02:43] <NiKon> ill try that
[02:45] <TheWhiteHatter> It's a 1.8MB iso...
[02:45] <NiKon> try ed but no response
[02:46] <NiKon> ima try turn it and on
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> NiKon: then I'd check the networking config in both systems then, make sure they are both on the same network address and so on
[02:49] <NiKon> i got the xbox network hooked from my cpu dir to a switch
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> NiKon: do the first 3 IPs of both system addresses match
[02:50] <TheWhiteHatter> Here i go to update my BIOS, WISH ME LUCK
[02:50] <NiKon> can i list ip so u can hilp
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> NiKon: ifconfig    will show the IP in Ubuntu
[02:51]  * alchemis19 wish's TheWhateHatter some luck
[02:55] <NiKon> 10.42.1.0,10.42.0.1 the ones the xbox should connect to
[02:57] <TheWhiteHatter> I almost had a heart attack...
[02:57] <chuxxsss> Hi all
[02:57] <univac> Hello
[02:57] <TheWhiteHatter> I misread the bios update thing and thought it erased my bios but failed to update
[02:58] <TheWhiteHatter> That was scary
[02:58] <TheWhiteHatter> SO MUCH BEEPING
[02:58] <TheWhiteHatter> I'm going to go change my pants
[02:58] <alchemist9> TheWhiteHatter: read everything twice on a bios update lol..
[02:59] <NiKon> lol ya
[02:59] <ActionParsnip> NiKon: and what IP does the ubuntu system have?
[02:59] <IlikeMoose> i have a problem: when burning 12.04 onto cd-rom one of the discs fouled up and wouldn't work on the install so i had to burn another one, i didn't have a sharpie on hand and i mixed the 2 discs up. how to i find out which one of these is the good disc?
[03:00] <NiKon> 192.168.0.13
[03:00] <[Relic]> anyone have any idea how to set the fan speed on an Nvidia card and have it take effect when it starts up?
[03:00] <alchemist9> IlikeMoose: there should be a media check option on the disk, just boot and check..
[03:00] <ActionParsnip> NiKon: that's why then, you need to change the IP to match the xbox
[03:01] <IlikeMoose> alchemist9: thanks
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> IlikeMoose: you can mount the CD, change directory to the root of the CD then run:  md5sum -c MD5SUM
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> IlikeMoose: it will check all the files are ok
[03:02] <IlikeMoose> ActionParsnip: i like that option better :)
[03:02] <NiKon> does dns need to be auto
[03:03] <chuxxsss> Hi all, need help please with virualbox and AROS on ubuntu 12.04....
[03:04] <alchemist9> chuxxsss: what exactly do you need help with?
[03:04] <naasei> hi all where can I find java for ubuntu?
[03:04] <naasei> I need to install java
[03:05] <bazhang> !java | naasei
[03:06] <naasei> thanks
[03:06] <keithclark> I have an emachines netbook and my microphone does not work, any ideas on how to fix?
[03:06] <chuxxsss> Setting up Virtualbox to run AROS on my ubuntu  machine. having problems.
[03:07] <alchemist9> keithclark: does your mic show up in alsamixer?
[03:08] <alchemist9> chuxxsss: is virtualbox installed?
[03:08] <IdleOne> chuxxsss: might try asking #aros
[03:08] <chuxxsss> Yes Virtualbox installed.
[03:09] <keithclark> alchemist9, shows up but no response
[03:09] <chuxxsss> IdleOne, Try no one answering in that channel.
[03:09] <IdleOne> chuxxsss: what is the problem?
[03:11] <alchemist9> keithclark: hmm it could be a driver issue..  let me check something...
[03:11] <Yuuka> Hello
[03:12] <keithclark> alchemist9, thanks
[03:12] <chuxxsss> IdleOne, not sure on the setting own get to the display or grub start then says it is running blank screen.
[03:12] <Yuuka> Hello keithclark
[03:13] <alchemist9> for the life of me can't remember the forsaken tools name..
[03:13] <Yuuka> Hello synaptix
[03:14] <synaptix> um
[03:14] <synaptix> hi?
[03:15] <keithclark> Yuuka, hey
[03:15] <JoseeAntonioR> Yuuka: Please, stop greeting random people. It may be annoying for someone.
[03:16] <Yuuka> I'm annoyed right now
[03:16] <Yuuka> Because of all the pings I'm getting from this channel
[03:16] <Topher82> anyone familiar with SSDs?
[03:17] <bazhang> Yuuka, did you have an actual support question?
[03:17] <bazhang> Topher82, try ##hardware
[03:17] <Topher82> thanks
[03:17] <alchemist9> keithclark: try sudo alsaconf and see if your card is automaticly detected..
[03:18] <Yuuka> No, I didn't
[03:18] <Yuuka> I shouldn't have to
[03:18] <bazhang> Yuuka, this is support only chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:18] <TheWhiteHatter> L3pot: did you fix that thing, that broke.?
[03:18]  * alchemist9 wanders off into off-topic land
[03:19] <Yuuka> I'm pretty sure the 1463 people in here aren't only here to ask for support.
[03:19] <Yuuka> If so, ubuntu needs to  be more user-friendly
[03:19] <Yuuka> HEH HEH
[03:19] <TheWhiteHatter> No, but they are'nt being chatty cathy
[03:19] <bazhang> Yuuka, take it elsewhere
[03:19] <TheWhiteHatter> use #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[03:19] <Yuuka> Is it a problem?
[03:19] <Yuuka> Am I harming anyone?
[03:19] <TheWhiteHatter> yes
[03:19] <Yuuka> What was that for?
[03:19] <synaptix> Thank you baz
[03:20] <rypervenche> Yuuka: Welcome to IRC.
[03:20] <Yuuka> You're thanking him?
[03:20] <bazhang> Yuuka, lets move on. chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[03:20] <Yuuka> I've been on IRC longer than you.
[03:20] <IdleOne> Yuuka: We have separate channels for general chat and for support. This is the support channel.
[03:20] <chu> Yuuka: He asked to take the chit-chat elsewhere. You can sit in here 9and answer questions, if you are able to). But please leave this channel strictly for support and bring the chit-chat to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[03:21] <keithclark> alchemist9, command not found
[03:22] <Jilly> is trying to decide if she needs to buy a used macbook pro. :)
[03:22] <NiKon> got it working on wireless fml
[03:23] <Topher82> good evening all. I've been having problems with kubuntu 12.04 on here. I swapped the HDD in my Acer Aspire 3820T for an OCZ Agility3, I got linux installed and trim enabled, no swap file just installed / to the full drive. and now like every other boot the bios seems to fail to see the HDD entirely. if I reboot once or twice it boots but seems to sit on a black screen for a long time (I assume it's running a chkdsk of some sort to repair
[03:23] <Topher82> the partitions)
[03:23] <alchemist9> keithclark: hmm my other suggestion is sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa ... odd they keep removing tools that work...
[03:24] <L3top> DWSR: Still here?
[03:25] <L3top> Topher82: check noacpi boot option.
[03:25] <keithclark> alchemist9, yup and now my touch pad stopped working.....this is frustrating
[03:25] <skrite> i installed ubuntu from the bare mini iso, what package do i install to configure a printer / scanner?
[03:26] <L3top> !info cups | skrite
[03:26] <vmesons> I have a Dell Latitude E6400  running 12.04-current - it doesn't suspend reliably (50% works). Any suggestions?
[03:26] <Topher82> I think I enabled that during the install
[03:27] <Topher82> how or where would I do that now after install?
[03:27] <L3top> vmesons: I would need more info as to what is failing.
[03:27] <bwat47> skrite: and if you want graphical configuration system-config-printer
[03:27] <L3top> Topher82: apt-cache policy cups
[03:27] <skrite> bwat47: gotcha, thanks
[03:27] <L3top> Topher82: apt-cache policy cups | grep Installed
[03:27] <alchemist9> keithclark:hmm issues galore
[03:27] <vmesons> L3top: most serrvices shutdown, the disk light goes idle ,and it hangs. Let me check the kern.log
[03:28] <skrite> bwat47: after install, how do i execute?
[03:28] <Topher82> ok the grep line gave me no output
[03:29] <L3top> vmesons: I would check /var/log/dmesg and /var/log/syslog
[03:29] <Topher82> cups:
[03:29] <Topher82>   Installed: 1.5.3-0ubuntu1
[03:29] <Topher82>   Candidate: 1.5.3-0ubuntu1
[03:29] <Topher82>   Version table:
[03:29] <Topher82>  *** 1.5.3-0ubuntu1 0
[03:29] <FloodBot1> Topher82: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:29] <Topher82>         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/main i386 Packages
[03:29] <L3top> capital I
[03:29] <vmesons> L3top: ack.
[03:29] <bwat47> skrite: if you installed cups and system-config-printer gnome just running "system-config-printer" from run should work
[03:29] <bwat47> *system-config-printer-gnome
[03:29] <L3top> !pastebin | Topher82
[03:30] <Topher82> blarg totally my bad didn't realize how much text that was lol
[03:30] <skrite> bwat47: thanks !
[03:30] <L3top> However I got what I was looking for... you did not capitalize the I I am guessing.
[03:32] <L3top> vmesons: are you using chrome by chance?
[03:32] <keithclark> alchemist9, 'alsa is not installed'
[03:32] <vmesons> yep.
[03:32] <vmesons> but I usually kill it before trying to suspend.
[03:33] <L3top> vmesons: I have seen a couple of folk having issue with suspend due to chrome. Please submit a bug.
[03:33] <L3top> !bug
[03:34]  * vmesons will check if a chrom free login -> suspsend works and if not I'll file a bug.
[03:34] <L3top> vmesons: ps aux | grep -i chrome prior to shutdown
[03:34] <L3top> er suspend
[03:34] <vmesons> L3top: sure.
[03:34] <keithclark> alchemist9, any ideas?
[03:35] <L3top> keithclark: I am not familiar with your issue... but... in almost any case alsa should be installed. Can you please restate your issue?
[03:35] <vmesons> L3top: I don't have a clear record of a failed suspend. The last one was a couple of days ago but they're not hard to reproduce. Tomorrow probably.
[03:36] <L3top> keithclark: apt-cache policy alsa-base | grep -i installed
[03:37] <L3top> vmesons: if you could pastebin what you believe is a clear record... perhaps I could help
[03:37] <keithclark> L3top,   Installed: 1.0.25+dfsg-0ubuntu1
[03:38] <DWSR> L3top: Yes.
[03:38] <DWSR> L3top: You less busy now?
[03:38] <L3top> DWSR: yes sir. Did you see my earlier post?
[03:38] <Dave-_> hello
[03:39] <DWSR> L3top: With the commands?
[03:39] <DWSR> L3top: I don't understand how to install vgaswitcheroo
[03:39] <L3top> DWSR: No, the completely ineffective ones.
[03:39] <L3top> I keed, I keed.
[03:40] <Dave-_> My english not too good, but I try to make my known. Does anyone have a torrent link for the v12 LTS iso? my download takes too long on normal and I keep losing the file when the power dies
[03:40] <DWSR> I never qualified how useful the commands are. :P
[03:40] <L3top> one moment DWSR.
[03:40] <Dave-_> I look on the website but they not make the torrent link there as I can see
[03:41] <L3top> Dave-_: what language do you speak?
[03:41] <L3top> Uno momento DWSR.
[03:41] <Dave-_> L3top: I speak the spanish and the C++ (:
[03:42] <Dave-_> but do you understand my question, I've been taking english on the rosetta stone
[03:42] <L3top> !es | Dave-_  perhaps you will be better served here.
[03:43] <DWSR> L3top: That really didn't seem to help btw.
[03:43] <L3top> Dave-_: I do... but I believe that your solution will be better understood via the channel for your lang
[03:43] <Dave-_> L3top: Thank you alots...
[03:44] <Dave-_> l3top: is there a torrent file even because I think that the other people would do the slow too...
[03:44] <nyreptile> question: i have some iptables rules i'd like to have enabled at bootup but i dont' want to use the stupid ufw thing
[03:44] <veryhappy> hey guys does ubuntu 12.04 already contain gnome 3.4 and if yes how can i update there?
[03:44] <L3top> Dave-_: it depends on your connection and your repos.
[03:44] <Dave-_> Hang on I ask my sister, she speaks the better english
[03:44] <MindALot> I know google should tell me this, but I can't tell what is old suggestions versus recent.  I've messed up my other ubuntu install somehow, might be related to video drivers.  Is it still suggested that I download the latest graphics drivers from AMD if I plan to play games (wine + steam) ?
[03:45] <nyreptile> can I just save my iptables rules using iptables-save and then have it load on bootup?
[03:45] <L3top> DWSR: I havent given you a solution other than to name it. I do not have your hardware available to me, and you are the first to ask where to find vgaswitcheroo.
[03:46] <Dave-_> Hey, davey wants to know whether or not the installer iso for v12.04 of ubuntu, he says the LTS one also, is available as a torrent. our bandwidth is pretty bad, and the power is kind of unstable too. He keeps losing the ISO because of power outage when downloading it the normal way
[03:46] <L3top> DWSR: i am not trying to be obstinant with you. Have you completed the steps I gave you in pastebin?
[03:47] <DWSR> Yes.
[03:47] <DWSR> L3top: And I know that you're not.
[03:47] <chachin> :o
[03:48] <L3top> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[03:48] <chachin> dang 1466 users
[03:48] <L3top> DWSR: ^
[03:48] <chachin> i wish i had that many on my ircd :o
[03:48] <L3top> do you have an ubuntu support question chachin?
[03:49] <chachin> nah just curious to see what amount of users is today
[03:49] <DWSR> L3top: /boot/config-2.6.* doesn't exist. Do I need to build a custom kernel?
[03:49] <L3top> der what DWSR?
[03:50] <veryhappy> hey you guys i wanted to install gnome 3.4 in ubuntu 12.04 and kde 4.7 i think
[03:50] <veryhappy> is that possible?
[03:50] <Dave-_> Hey... does anyone know the answer or should I tell my brother it doesn't exist?
[03:51] <ghostchick> Dave-_,  yeah it exist as a torrent
[03:51] <L3top> chachin: This channel exists to provide support for *buntu. If you do not have a support question or answer...  the number of users is avail without your offtopic commentary.
[03:51] <ghostchick> ^exists
[03:51] <chachin> im gona idle like everyone else then.
[03:51] <Phiscribe> veryhappy you want to be able to switch from gnome to kde?
[03:52] <Dave-_> L3top: I found it for him but thanks for your help
[03:52] <Dave-_> have a good day
[03:54] <veryhappy> Phiscribe: what the heck, i mean not i want to change from gnome to kde ;) i want to upgrade my gnome to the latest gnome version available and also my kde to the latest one that's it ;)
[04:00] <Phiscribe> sudo apt-get install kde-standard or sudo apt-get install kde-full will get you kde, i THINK its 4.7,not sure, but for all gimp 3.4, you may have to go to an ppa, im not advising on it as it seems unrefined to me, i advise picking what you want and using one not haveing multiple, but thats me, im not a fan of the bleeding edge
[04:00] <veryhappy> ok
[04:00] <veryhappy> and gnome as well?
[04:00] <veryhappy> i mean i tried to install gnome
[04:01] <veryhappy> but it doesn't really look like THAT gnome that i could try out in fedora
[04:02] <asses> does anyone here want a picture of my ass
[04:02] <mayonnaise> !anyone
[04:02] <asses> ok then
[04:02] <asses> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-cGN9ITEYjDw/TWB-STkd1RI/AAAAAAAAA6g/1CXIyW3Scnw/s1600/donkeyf.jpg
[04:02] <veryhappy> asses: no, thank you i think we all take a pass
[04:02] <Phiscribe> ubuntu 12.04 has some gnome 3.4 and some 3.2. you might have to use a ppa as a source to get it all, i dont like ppa's as they tend to break things, http://www.noobslab.com/2012/04/install-gnome-shell-34-and-extensions.html
[04:03] <Phiscribe> or here http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/new-gnome-3-4-release-offers-features-fun-ui-finesse, but be WARNED use at own risk
[04:03] <veryhappy_> something that i really hate when i get kicked by my own connection
[04:04] <veryhappy_> could an op please kick veryhappy that i can use it again?
[04:04] <veryhappy_> or can i do a "ghost" on it
[04:04] <Phiscribe> use the ghost command to kick your ghost
[04:04] <veryhappy_> ok
[04:04] <Phiscribe> good luck
[04:05] <veryhappy> thank you
[04:05] <veryhappy> now i got it back
[04:05] <jenkem110> youre welcome
[04:05] <veryhappy> well and gnome isn't available in that latest version it came on fedora, right?
[04:05] <veryhappy> i missed for example the sidebars and so on
[04:06] <vmeson> L3top: http://pastebin.com/850sPGhX = 35: Jul 20 23:46:40 fidler anacron[22851]: Normal exit (0 jobs run) -- wait then reset.
[04:06] <sponix> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnutls26/+bug/937537  --> Workaround is to get the deb libgnutls26_2.12.18-1 from Debian Sid and restart
[04:07] <sponix> Is there a chance anyone feels like Fixing this _sometime_ ?
[04:08] <veryhappy> ok i think it's nearly the same with gnome as with kde
[04:08] <veryhappy> so i'll go now.
[04:08] <veryhappy> thank you all
[04:08] <sponix> I'm on 12.04 LTS, and this has been a known issue since the Alpha versions it seems, yet no one seems to care enough to fix it
[04:08] <veryhappy> you've helped me out, tc
[04:08] <debbr> what ca ni use to search for files that contain text i want?
[04:08] <debbr> im on 12
[04:10] <debbr> nautilus in 12 doesnt give an option to find files containing text
[04:11] <vmeson> L3top: exit chrome, ps <opt> -> no chrome: menu-> suspend - hangs: http://pastebin.com/850sPGhX - see line 35:
[04:12] <L3top> looking vmeson.