/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/07/23/#kubuntu-devel.txt

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Riddellmorning08:04
BluesKajHey all11:53
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shadeslayerOk, I'm going to get cracking on the RC12:31
* shadeslayer looks at debfx's automation stuff12:32
jussishadeslayer: do you know which ppa has a reasonably stable, but reasonably recent version of Calligra?12:34
Riddellshadeslayer: he threw bits into kubuntu-ninjas but had to wait for it to be in the rightorder12:35
Riddelljussi: see kubuntu.org12:35
jussiRiddell: thanks12:35
shadeslayerRiddell: I don't see anything related to 4.8.97 in the ninjas ppa12:36
Riddellshadeslayer: I'm thinking we should just diverge from debian and drop the kde-sc-dev-latest (>= 4:4.8.90) stuff in favour of versioned depends on kdelibs5-dev (>= 4:4.8)12:36
jussiRiddell: ahh thanks...12:36
shadeslayerRiddell: why?12:36
Riddellshadeslayer: that would mean it can just be thrown into the PPA without worrying about the build order, launchpad should work out the build order12:36
shadeslayerreally? :O12:37
shadeslayerwhy can't it do it right now?12:37
Riddellshadeslayer: because launchpad's way of working out when to rebuild isn't as complete as debian's12:37
Riddellthere's a bug about it12:37
Riddellbut if you upload kde4libs and a kdegames using kde-sc-dev-latest you'll need to retry kdegames after kde4libs is done12:38
Riddellwhich you wouldn't if we just did simple kdelibs5-dev (>= 4:4.8.90)12:38
Riddellshadeslayer: oh and let me know if you need an ec212:39
shadeslayernah, have a VPS now :P12:39
shadeslayerwill poke if I happen to run out of memory12:39
RiddellVPS?12:40
shadeslayerRiddell: Virtual Private server :)12:40
Riddellshadeslayer: you hired one from somewhere?12:41
shadeslayeryeah, 15 USD for a year12:41
shadeslayerjust about enough for building stuff like KDE Telepathy and smaller packages12:42
shadeslayerneed to script kde telepathy packages though12:42
* shadeslayer adds to TODO12:42
shadeslayerapachelogger: ping me when you're about12:43
shadeslayerRiddell: I was thinking of writing a python script that queries launchpad for build state of KDE SC packages, then if they're in a build wait state, and if the build dep was alredy built, it retries the build12:45
shadeslayerthe latter part is already done12:45
shadeslayerthe 'monitor' bit needs work12:45
Riddellshadeslayer: that seems r12:45
shadeslayerr? :P12:46
Riddellshadeslayer: that seems pretty faffy compared to just working with launchpad and doing versioned build-depends like it expects12:46
debfxshadeslayer: that's already implemented in https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~debfx/+junk/kubuntu-automation/view/head:/kubuntu-retry-builds12:46
shadeslayeroh ... awesome12:46
shadeslayerI'm not fond of the idea of diverging from debian .....12:47
shadeslayereven though we change a couple of lines, merging stuff from debian later on becomes iffy because of a larger diff12:47
debfxideally someone would just fix that launchpad bug :P12:48
shadeslayer:P12:48
shadeslayercan you point me to the bug?12:48
yofel_we're talking about build-deps here, we have to merge that anyway - and you wouldn't have to worry about merging kde-sc-dev-latest anymore12:48
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shadeslayerI'm don't exactly understand what the problem is ...12:48
yofelshadeslayer: builds failing instead of being put into dep-wait12:49
shadeslayerbecause it finds that kde-sc-dev-latest was built but kdelibs5-dev wasn't12:49
yofelas launchpad ignores the Breaks from kde-sc-dev-latest12:49
shadeslayeroh12:49
yofelI once tried to do that, but back then it wasn't scripted and too much work, if you just put that in a script I would prefer using versioned depends over kde-sc-dev-latest12:50
shadeslayerhmm13:18
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shadeslayer_something is horribly broken between my router and my modem it seems13:18
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shadeslayeranyway, drop kde-sc-dev-latest then?13:18
shadeslayerin favor of versioned build depends on kdelibs5-dev13:19
shadeslayer( will need modifications in debfx's scripts as well then )13:19
debfxthere's not only kde4libs5-dev13:20
Riddelldropping kde-sc-dev-latest gets my vote13:21
Riddellbut yes it'll need everything else in kde-sc-dev-latest used by the source package as a versioned build-depened for all the packages13:22
shadeslayerright13:22
shadeslayerseems like alot of work .... ah well ..13:27
debfxthe code to bump the kde-sc-dev-latest build-dep version is already there13:29
debfxso it's mostly a matter of keeping the package list synchronized with kde-sc-dev-latest13:29
shadeslayer*nod* but I'll have to version unversioned build depends, add kdelibs5-dev etc to most packages right?13:31
Riddellyes, for the kde sc packages13:32
shadeslayeryeah, so the initial work that needs to be done is quite alot :P13:33
ScottKIf you're trying to get to build-dep instead of failed, dropping kde-sc-dev-latest won't help much.13:33
RiddellScottK: why not?13:34
ScottKBecause the first time another build-dep is uninstallable on a slow arch, if fails.13:34
ScottKThink of ~everything that depends on pimlibs for example.13:35
ScottKYou'd have to drop kde-sc-dev-lastest and do the trick I used to do of uploading the packages backwards to do it.13:36
ScottKOnce a package is in depwait, it'll go back to it.  The trick is getting it there first.13:36
yofelshouldn't it be put into dep-wait with the versioned build-deps?13:37
ScottKIf the necessary version is not available, it'll depwait.  If the dependency is not installable, it'll FTBFS.13:40
ScottKThat's why the reverse upload trick works.13:40
debfxScottK: why would kdepimlibs be uninstallable after it built?13:40
ScottKdebfx: It'll be built on some archs and not others.13:40
ScottKMaybe we changed enough -dev packages to arch any it's not such a big deal anymore.13:41
debfxafaik all -dev packages are arch:any13:41
Riddell-dev packages should always be arch any, header files can differ between arches13:42
debfxit could only be a problem if a library has a strict dependencies on a data package that is arch:all13:42
* Riddell uploads some test stuff to ~jr ppa to see13:42
debfxe.g. libkdeedu-dev13:44
Riddellsuccessful dep waot 13:55
Riddelldep wait https://launchpad.net/~jr/+archive/ppa/+build/367600013:55
shadeslayerhmm ...14:15
highvoltageDarkwing: hey there, are you around?14:19
Riddellhmm well it doesn't magically retry the package https://launchpad.net/~jr/+archive/ppa/+build/367599915:26
RiddellI find that most strange15:26
micahghrm, there's no ${calligra:Enhances} in calligra-l10n...I'm wondering if I should just demote to suggests for alpha3 and fix the enhances later15:26
Riddellmicahg: yeah that's fine too15:27
RiddellScottK: csync-owncloud and owncloud-client in New should you be in the mood15:34
ScottKOK.15:35
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1022479] bzr crashed with SIGSEGV in QGtkStyle::drawComplexControl() @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1022479 (by Logan Rosen)15:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1022479 in bzr (Ubuntu) "bzr crashed with SIGSEGV in QGtkStyle::drawComplexControl()" [Medium,Confirmed]15:38
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shadeslayerRiddell: did you retry kdepimlibs manually?15:54
Riddellon i386 yes15:55
Riddellnot on amd6415:55
shadeslayerok, amd64 seems to have started 15:55
Riddellooh it's started15:55
shadeslayeryeah15:55
Riddellok so just launchpad being slow15:55
shadeslayeryeah15:56
shadeslayerRiddell: so, shall we start switching deps?15:56
Riddellshadeslayer: it still has my preference15:58
ScottKI'd try one with the arch all -common package first.15:59
ScottKtxwikinger is in Canada.  He should just go make infinity implement the BD-Uninstallable state in soyuz.15:59
ScottKThat's be easiest.15:59
ScottKWell, for everyone except txwikinger.16:00
shadeslayerhahaha16:04
ScottKI just gave infinity a ping.16:07
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1028039] package libqtgui4 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.1 failed to install/upgrade: short read on buffer copy ... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1028039 (by dragan juric)17:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1028039 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "package libqtgui4 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.1 failed to install/upgrade: short read on buffer copy for backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtGui.so.4.8.1'" [Undecided,New]17:43
micahg\o/, no longer getting calligra on upgrade without kubuntu-desktop/calligra previously installed18:14
Riddellthanks micahg 18:40
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1013868] Crashes at any attempt to open a file @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013868 (by Thomas Malenfant)19:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1013868 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "Crashes at any attempt to open a file" [Undecided,New]19:51
shadeslayerRiddell: ping20:03
shadeslayerRiddell: I could use a AWS instance about now20:05
Riddellshadeslayer: hi20:14
Riddellshadeslayer: what sort?20:14
Riddell32 or 64?20:14
Riddellprecise or quantal?20:14
shadeslayerquantal, preferably on SSD20:14
Riddellmm I've no idea if they do SSD20:14
shadeslayeriirc they introduced new options20:15
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Riddell"High I/O Quadruple Extra Large Instance"20:15
Riddellsounds expensive20:15
shadeslayergah20:16
shadeslayermeh, leave it then20:16
shadeslayerThe I/O time is not worth it20:16
* shadeslayer will get more resources on his VPS when stock is available20:19
Riddell$3.10 an hour, will get very expensive very quickly20:21
shadeslayerouch20:21
shadeslayernot worth it then20:21
Riddelllots at $0.08 an hour would be preferable :)20:22
shadeslayer:D20:22
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kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1028039] package libqtgui4 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.1 failed to install/upgrade: short read on buffer copy ... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1028039 (by dragan juric)20:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1028039 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "package libqtgui4 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.1 failed to install/upgrade: short read on buffer copy for backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtGui.so.4.8.1'" [Undecided,Invalid]20:57
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kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1028163] plasma-desktop crashed with SIGSEGV when changing battery monitor settings @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1028163 (by johannes)22:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1028163 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "plasma-desktop crashed with SIGSEGV when changing battery monitor settings" [Undecided,Invalid]22:35

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