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[vbm]hi there. can anyone help me with vsftpd? I am struggling to get it working with anonymous and authenticated users at the same time.01:51
escott[vbm], ugggh. any reason you can't use sftp?01:51
[vbm]not really. Just had vsftpd working well for a while but now would like to allow read only access to anonymous users.01:53
[vbm]I can always create a RO user as a work around, but was keen on getting it to work "properly".01:54
[vbm]escott, I think I did not understand your question about sftp? I thought you were talking about another program :)01:59
escott[vbm], i mean openssh-ftp?02:00
escottjust the deep hatred for all things ftp02:00
escottftp must die02:00
philballewQuestion: scp or rsync for 85 gigs of media?02:00
escottphilballew, rsync is resumable. thats the main reason to use it for large data transfers02:01
[vbm]escott, :) why? currently I only use it as a means to share drives across different machines. I have FTP shares on two boxes one xp and one running lucid. lucid's is running my htpc and now I need to make sure the default access is RO and would prefer unauthenticated access.02:05
escott[vbm], ftp is just not a good netizen in many ways. using multiple ports, dynamically choosing ports for clients, ridiculously insecure... list goes on02:06
philballewescott, alright, Ill set it up02:06
escott[vbm], you can do some cool stuff with ssh'es ftp modules with authorized keys and accomplish almost anything you would have wanted to do with ftp but securely and more robustly02:07
[vbm]escott, when you mention openssh-ftp, are you talking about ftp over a ssh tunnel, like in a remote access? This is strictly lan only.02:08
escott[vbm], no i mean the sftp binary. its basically a wrapper around scp/ssh that "talks" ftp. its not a tunnel. openssh handles the entire communication02:10
[vbm]escott, ok thanks. googling it... :)02:10
escott[vbm], the benefit of sftp is that you only have to know ssh and how to configure it02:11
escott[vbm], also why not just use samba on your home network?02:12
[vbm]escott, samba is the plan. I've been postponing it because I have dreams of single log ons and shared resources across all my machines and haven't found the time to plan it properly. maybe I should start with acouple of samba shares and worry about the pdc later. :)02:13
escott[vbm], well the dream single logon is ssh auth_keys. it just works(TM)02:14
escott[vbm], only difficulties are going to be with windows02:14
[vbm]escott, :) that's the thing. Loving ubuntu but can't realistically get rid of my last windows box and also have a macbook to join in some day.02:16
escott[vbm], there are certainly ssh clients for windows, and im sure putty can do ftp. so ssh would be just as good as ftp, and easier to setup in almost all cases. there is overhead for encryption so if you have some weak hardware that can be a pain (i get annoyed at my NAS because it just can't crunch the ssh encryption fast enough sometimes)02:18
escott[vbm], there are ways to tell ssh to not encrypt the channel or to use a weaker form of encryption, just don't ever use that outside your LAN02:19
[vbm]escott, won't sftp require me to have users with shell access?02:20
escott[vbm], no02:21
[vbm]escott, need to keep googling. this site suggested you'd get to your home directory...02:21
escott[vbm], im looking for a link to the restricted sftp instructions. its really easy but its changed a bit over the last 5 years02:23
escott[vbm], http://www.minstrel.org.uk/papers/sftp/02:24
escott[vbm], basically all you have to do is:02:25
escott(a) set the users shell to /bin/false in /etc/passwd02:25
escott(b) create an auth-key and add it to authorized_keys with a command directive02:25
escott(c) the command directive (which is optional) can reference the sftp module02:26
escott(d) enable the built in support for chroot and sftp only within sshd_config usually trigged by group membership in a group "sftponly" but could be structured however you want02:27
[vbm]escott, would this setup allow me to have anonymous users?02:29
escott[vbm], in a manner of speaking yes.02:29
escott[vbm], its not a good idea to have a publicly known password for the user02:29
escottbut you could publish the id_rsa for the auth_key02:30
[vbm]escott, thanks02:30
escottwhich is nice because its a single point of entry to the system -- 1 line in one file (authorized_keys)02:30
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escott[vbm], if you are looking at the minstrel instructions keep in mind that openssh already has everything compiled so you skip directly to the configuration (i sent that to someone one time and started getting questions about ./configure :)02:33
[vbm]escott, got that :) I use ubuntu because I need the training wheels. Every time I see a make install that I can't skip I run for the hills. :)02:35
hmfhello04:01
hmf:)04:02
chris_wrxHow do I know if I have correctly installed a python program (pywallet) on my ubuntu box?  I type "pywallet" at the $ prompt, but it doesn't execute the program07:15
chris_wrxk07:17
geirhaOh don't wait more than 3 minutes...07:19
philballewmust be looking for help elsewhere and found it there first.08:02
prateekphello everybody08:47
prateekpThere is permission issue . I mean that a certain file i am not able to save ... It states that u cannot save this file08:48
prateekphow to set permissions for a file through terminal or otherwise08:48
holstein!chown08:48
ubot2An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions08:48
holsteinprateekp: or just sudo mv it08:48
holsteintypically, when you are not supposed to, you might not want to.. or you might want to get more specific about what it is before you really bork something08:49
geirhaIf it's a system configuration file, you should not change ownership/permissions on the file08:49
holsteingksudo gedit08:50
holstein^^ that will open a config file in an editable fashion08:50
prateekpactually when i go to its  properties by right clicking and change the permissions to read and write it doesnt change08:50
prateekpwhy so08:50
prateekpactually i want to open the file in my programs editor08:51
prateekpthat would be helpful to me08:51
geirhaprateekp: Possibly it's on a filesystem that doesn't support unix permissisons, such as vfat/ntfs08:52
holsteinprateekp: you can break functionality08:52
prateekpthe file is located in home08:52
holsteinprateekp: what programs editor?08:52
prateekpscilab editor08:52
ReubenNZHi. I am trying to install ubuntu with the windows installer but when it downloads it gets to about a quarter complete and then the download slows down to less than 1kb/s. Does anybody know a better way of doing it? I dont want to dualboot or replace windows08:53
prateekpi can open using gksudo gedit but thats not i want08:53
holsteinprateekp: you can use sudo or gksudo to elevate privs if you need...08:54
geirhaReubenNZ: Download the Ubuntu Desktop CD. It had wubi on it too, and it won't have to download anything during install08:54
prateekpok my problem got solved08:54
geirhaReubenNZ: Though, it'll still be a dualboot08:54
holsteinReubenNZ: do you alreayd have an iso downloaded? you can put the iso file in the same place as the wubi.exe and it'll use it08:55
holsteinyeah.. a wubi is a dual boot08:55
geirhaReubenNZ: Perhaps you want to run ubuntu in a virtual machine instead? If so, download virtualbox and the ubuntu iso08:55
ReubenNZohk. i thought dual booting was more difficult. I will just download the iso and do it that way08:56
ReubenNZthank you08:56
geirhaprateekp: Odd that you have a file not owned by yourself in your homedir though08:56
prateekphhmmm .... the problem automatically got solved08:57
prateekpmay be some other things have had happened before08:57
StevemavHello, I'm a newbie, here to say hi and learn a little about ubuntu :)10:09
coolbhavihello Stevemav welcome to ubuntu :)10:09
Stevemavhows things for you mate?10:10
coolbhaviStevemav, fine... how are things with you?10:10
Stevemavall good :). Having a few teething issues but by and large all good :)10:11
coolbhavi:)10:12
Stevemavare you new yourself? or are there just no distictions between new and older members, other than the chanserv?10:15
Stevemavso, anyone here have StarCraft 2 issues with Wine?10:28
Droidgood morning everyone10:29
Stevemavhello10:33
Stevemavdoes anyone know the correct channel to go to for wine related issues in ubunut?10:38
Stevemavubuntu*10:38
bioterror!wine10:38
ubot2WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu10:38
Droidtry #winehq ?10:38
bioterrorsays #winehq10:38
Droidmhm, sorry, hi bioterror (:10:38
bioterrorhi10:39
Stevemav#winehq10:39
Stevemavcool10:39
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PlayerStevemav: what game are you playing through winehq?11:06
StevemavStarCraft 2.11:07
StevemavI can link to a recent post I made if you think you can help?11:08
geirhaI gave up getting "Stars!" to run via wine. I ended up installing Windows 3.11 in dosbox to run it.  :)11:08
Stevemavhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202232811:09
PlayerStevemav: my window manager crashed, i'm in the middle of an upgrade, i can't really open websites atm11:09
Stevemavlol if I had an iso file for a windows distro I'd be running it, no money at the moment though :P11:09
Stevemavfair enough Player11:09
Stevemavbasically, in my win regedit, I'm missing a whole bunch of folders11:10
Stevemavrunning wine 1.5.9 at the moment11:10
Playerin around 20 minutes i could assist you, with the small amount of knowledge i have left11:11
Stevemavsounds great :). Will you be able to open browsers byt then?11:12
Playerof course if there's no one else to help you out11:12
Playeri hope the upgrade and a reboot will mend my issue ..11:12
Stevemavfair enough- what was your issue?11:13
Playerso yes, i am confident i will be able, althought i will continue to another upgrade, i'm going from 9.04 to 12.04 ...11:13
Playeri just wanted to get back on linux, i've been playing too many games on windows, so i got back to my old-rusty ubuntu, now trying to revive it. It didn't start at 1st, it froze after login, fixed that, now let's see what else hits me in the face11:14
Stevemavfair enough- AMD or Intel machine?11:20
PlayerAMD11:20
Playerwith a problematic NVidia card11:21
Playerso i'm in for some fun, it's better than gaming tho..11:21
Playeri might actually learn smth this way11:21
Playeri'll go smoke a cigarette 'till thsi upgrade finishes11:21
Stevemavfair enough, I had a bit of an issue with mine but it was all AMD stuff-11:23
Stevemavhopefully it'll work out11:23
Playerhere we go, reboot time. BRB11:25
Stevemavkk11:25
Player'kay, I'm alive11:29
Stevemavthat's a good start :P11:33
Playerone second, let me get the second upgrade going11:34
Stevemavall good man11:35
Playerit's gonna be a long day ... 10.10 -> 11.0411:36
Playeralright, so paste that link again please11:36
Playerand describe what the issue is11:36
Stevemavhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2022328&page=211:40
StevemavNo sound, not even when I test in wineconfig11:41
Stevemavno driver listed11:41
Playerhave you searched for any other threads?11:42
Playeri found smth like this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1939902&page=211:42
Playeryou can also find related stuff here: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=2088211:43
StevemavI'll check them, I've searched for about a week over the net and on this site11:44
Playereveryone says they have sound issues but there's a workaround it seems11:45
StevemavI can't get the sound problem form winehq link to work, tried it heaps before11:45
Playerwhat do you mean?11:47
Playerwhich link? The alsa-plugins git one?11:47
Playerupgrade: About 2 hours 3 minutes remaining11:48
PlayerWHAT? *faceplams*11:48
Stevemavwhat??11:50
Stevemavjust get the iso for 12.04, way faster!!11:50
StevemavI didn't understand how to get the git part to work11:51
Stevemavhttp://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb425/NixKing/Screenshotfrom2012-07-23214722.png11:51
PlayerStevemav: you need to download git and install it11:51
Stevemavok I can do that11:52
Stevemavthrough synaptic or unbuntu store?11:52
Stevemavsoftware centrwe*11:52
Playerthe center is better11:53
Playerforget synaptic, that's old :P11:53
Stevemavcentre says I have it already11:53
Playergood, the open a terminal11:53
Stevemavkk11:54
Playerbefore that, did you do this step: To get sound, start winecfg, go to DLL overrides, add "mmdevapi" and set it to "disabled".11:54
Player?11:54
Stevemavyeah that's aready been done11:55
Playeralright, the commands are for the terminal11:55
Stevemavkk11:55
Stevemavyeah they don't work- I copy in one line at a time right?11:56
Playeryes11:57
Playerdo you get any errors?11:57
Playerlike after the 2nd line11:57
Stevemavi fatal: repository 'git.alsa-project.org/alsa-plugins.git' does not exist11:58
Playerokay, that's the issue then11:58
Stevemavkk11:58
Stevemavhow do i fix that?12:01
Playerthe git seems to be there12:02
Stevemavyeah12:02
PlayerI can't install git now 'cause of the upgrade ... mhm :\12:03
Playerone sec, brb12:03
Stevemavkk12:03
Playerfrankly i don't know12:08
Stevemavdamn12:09
Stevemavso it says to use a repository that doensn't exist12:13
Stevemavam I reading into that right?12:13
PlayerStevemav: yes, that's what needs to be fixed12:15
Stevemavok12:15
Playeron the screenshot you gave me, can't you choose any kind of device? Pulseaudio or alsa?12:15
StevemavI ran  sudo apt-get update, should I try again?12:15
Stevemavthere are no devices listed in any of the drop down box's12:16
Playerof course, try, i don't think you can screw things up that much, i mean the sound doesn't work anyway12:20
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StevemavHmm #ubuntu is helping a little12:24
Playerthat's good (:12:27
PlayerI hope you found a way to get over this issue12:27
StevemavWhen i do I'll make sure to post it on the forum so others can check it :)12:28
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Playerwell .. ubuntu crashed, kinda dead *sighs*12:56
Playerso i'm on my router running irssi now ... *shrugs*12:56
Stevemavhmm, what happened when you turned it on?13:00
StevemavPlayer: What happened when you started the comp up?13:03
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StevemavHey, I'm looking to dual boot windows vista/7 with ubuntu, are there any decent iso files for windows I could download and install?13:39
geirhaDidn't you get cds when you bought them?13:40
Stevemavno it's always been preinstalled until now13:41
holsteinAFAIK, you cannot download windows13:43
geirhaHm. Well, maybe #windows knows what you should do to aquire install CDs.13:43
holsteini would call and ask microsoft13:43
Stevemavyeah that's my best bet, cool13:46
Stevemavthanks guys13:46
Stevemavsee ya13:46
Player < Stevemav> Player: What happened when you started the comp up?13:47
Playerit hung at boot, recovery doesn't want to start at all13:47
Playeryou can get windows isos on their websites if you got an account13:48
holsteinPlayer: Stevemav has parted13:48
Playerholstein: on, you're right, sorry :\14:14
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r4yI noticed with Mahjongg that sometimes the last 2 matching tiles on the same spot so I thought in order to fix this they should have made it so when shuffle appears that the last 2 tiles are shuffled to 2 different spots, unless of coarse it is meant to be played in a certain sequence which I doubt.15:56
r4yAnyways that's all I had to say except that I worded that wrong. The last 2 matching times end up on the same spot.15:58
r4ybye :) /15:58
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