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kayle_i need help01:23
christelgood morning06:21
livingdaylightgm06:22
christel\o/06:23
livingdaylightfirefox is no longer integrated into TopBar. Someone know how to fix that?06:25
ali1234topbar?06:26
ali1234you mean global menu?06:26
livingdaylighti thought it was called topbar. Yes, global menu aguess.   Where apps have their menu integrated Apple style06:29
ali1234go to firefox extensions and make sure the global menu extension is there and enabled06:29
livingdaylightcool06:29
livingdaylightyup, its there and enabled06:30
livingdaylightI don't know whether its since I installed Unity Mail that its no longer working or since I set Unity bar to AutoHide, but FF stopped being integrated into global menu06:31
ali1234no idea then06:31
livingdaylightthanks06:32
livingdaylightmaybe re-installing?06:32
ali1234seems like overkill06:32
livingdaylightthis is already a fairly small laptop, and it now unnecessarily encroaches on screen realestate. Plus, should work as it should06:33
brobostigongood morning everyone.08:16
czajkowskiAloha08:16
brobostigonmorning czajkowski08:17
TheOpenSourcererMorning peeps \o/08:17
brobostigonmorning TheOpenSourcerer08:17
livingdaylightreinstalling firefox seems overkill, but don't know how to fix the integration into global menu issue. Any ideas?08:18
christelmorning lovelies :)08:21
* bigcalm sneaks in08:21
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)08:22
dwatkinshiya08:25
christelheya bigcalm \o/08:25
bigcalmAfter a week off work, don't really feel like doing work today08:25
* czajkowski rugby tackles christel and hugs her! 08:25
bigcalmWhoops :)08:25
* christel hugs czajkowski 08:25
bigcalmchristel \o/08:25
oimonbigcalm, bet you wish you had this week off08:25
christelhow are you my most beautiful woman? :)08:25
czajkowskinot bad now08:25
bigcalmoimon: part of me thinks that. Another part wants the money08:26
JamesTaitHappy Monday, everyone! :)08:26
oimoni spy some long lunches this week08:26
oimonin fact i think i will book tomorrow off08:26
oimonwifey has morning sickness and i feel bad for her08:27
bigcalmI should book off some time in September08:27
christelhappy monday JamesTait :)08:33
JamesTaitchristel: Good morning, m'dear, how are you this fine day?08:34
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christeli am well -- pondering taking laptop outside to work in the sun \o/08:37
christelyourself? :)08:37
AlanBellmorning all08:37
popeymorning08:37
bigcalmGood morning Alans08:38
bigcalmchristel: that always seems like a good idea until you can't see the screen08:38
brobostigonchristel: dont get burnt, put sun protection on.08:38
s-foxhello08:40
brobostigonhello s-fox08:40
s-foxhello brobostigon08:41
s-foxhow are you ?08:41
brobostigons-fox: still not very well, but alittle better. and you?08:41
s-foxi am sorry to hear that brobostigon , i hope you get better soon08:42
brobostigon:) thank you./08:42
s-foxi am okay thanks, bit tired08:43
JamesTaitchristel: Also enjoying the sun.  I'll need to fight my boys for space in the garden, though. ;)08:43
brobostigons-fox: :)08:43
KungFuPandamorning guys08:44
s-foxhello KungFuPanda08:44
s-foxwb popey :)08:45
KungFuPandadoes any1 know what is the app for setup custom multmedia key for the keyboard ?08:46
popeyKungFuPanda, gnome-control-center keyboard08:47
popeyalso, see compizconfig-settings-manager08:47
KungFuPandathx08:47
christelJamesTait: hehe school holidays started eh? :P08:52
popeywhat's the voodoo that lets you have a keyboard and mouse control two computers?08:53
christelsynergy?08:53
Laneysynergy08:53
Laneyi used it a bit recently, but it's kind of buggy08:53
popeyah thats the one08:54
popeyoh :(08:54
JamesTaitchristel: They have - first day off school today, and the boys are full of it. :)08:55
Laneyit got my laptop into a weird state where alt(?) was constantly pressed08:55
Laneycouldn't type into any window, couldn't even switch to a vt08:55
gordi know some people that swear by synergy, i should really give it a go08:55
christeli bet!08:55
bigcalmpopey: I use synergy every day and have never found it to be buggy08:58
oimonsynergy plus has the bugs taken out08:58
bigcalmLook at quick-synergy. It will actually make using synergy simple to use08:59
oimonsynergy suffered from stalled development for a couple of years that patches weren't getting added, so it was forked08:59
popeyhmm, will look, but i have an odd network setup09:01
Laneyhmm there is a new version in exp09:01
Laney1.4.809:02
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bigcalmUbuntu's SSO is slugish today09:09
gordi think we can all agree that its too warm to work today09:14
gordlets all go home09:14
christelhaha09:14
matttgord: ^509:14
directhexi work from home :(09:15
gordas do i, but if i say "lets all go into the other room where the computer is not" people look at you funny09:15
directhexthe bathroom?09:16
* bigcalm longs for his bed09:17
bigcalmActually, I'm not fussy. Any bed will do right now09:18
directhexi long for bed also. but my scheduling is no longer my own09:18
directhexi am a slave to the midget09:18
TwinkletoesGood morning folks09:27
brobostigonmorning Twinkletoes09:28
TwinkletoesMy ntp client doesn't seem to be workign correctly, it's clock is now 45 minutes out of sync with the server, the offset (from the ntpdc -s command) is 2807 and growing09:28
* Twinkletoes smiles at brobostigon09:29
brobostigon:)09:29
christelaaah.. https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/394589_10151112917400937_344836818_n.jpg today's office!09:32
christel\o/09:32
bigcalmHaha09:32
bigcalmI like the addition of flowers09:33
christel\o/09:33
* bigcalm grins09:33
bigcalmmust.do.work!09:34
bigcalmReally don't want to face my inbox09:34
christelhehe09:34
christeli don't much want to work tbh, i'd rather just sunbathe!09:42
diploMorning all09:57
diploI may move outside yet09:58
christeli already did! tis WONDERFUL10:00
christel:D10:00
diploI work in an old manor house, beautiful gardens10:01
christel:D10:01
diploLack of wireless in the garden though10:01
popeyi think i may move outside too10:01
diploJust asked my boss to get me a wireless extender :)10:01
diploAlso, the bloke who runs this place, 2 daughters at uni and a nice swimming pool in the back garden \o/10:01
diploperfect10:02
christelhehe10:02
popey\o/ outside10:03
gordpopey: on the x220?10:03
popeyyes10:03
gordhows the screen in the sunshine?10:04
popeyi am in shade under the vine10:04
gordi don't have any shade :(10:04
popeyplant some vines and then wait 6 years10:04
davmor2Morning all10:04
davmor2czajkowski: Prod! Hello10:05
popeyhttps://twitter.com/popey/status/227343902158508032/photo/110:07
popeythe view ^10:07
popey* small children optional10:08
diploLooks lovely popey10:13
davmor2popey: Fortunately for me my office is just about at a working temperature for a change :D10:13
diploOnly good thing about the manor house is the big thick walls keep it cool10:14
diploHmm, right 2 1/2 hours or so in and I've done 1 thing, book my holiday time off10:15
diploTime to get head into work I guess.10:15
christelmy view consists of halfnaked women sunbathing10:18
davmor2christel: Put some more clothes on then :D10:19
diplolol10:19
christelhahaha10:19
christeli am perfectly dressed!10:19
diploI've just had my wireless extender's okayed if I set up a webcam of activitys down here :D10:28
diploThey are all sat in stuffy office in the middle of a trading estate.10:29
bigcalmHeh10:33
davmor2bigcalm: how's your inbox looking now?10:36
bigcalmdavmor2: icky. I fear responding to some of the emails will make it even more icky10:36
bigcalmdavmor2: guns appear to be bringing LUG members out of the woodwork10:37
bigcalmEven GingerDog is going :D10:37
* bigcalm waves to GingerDog10:37
davmor2bigcalm: indeed they always do we are all gun toting maniacs who should all live in america apparently :D10:38
bigcalmgord: are you coming on Thursday?10:38
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bigcalmmrevell: are you coming on Thursday?10:39
davmor2mrevell: the right answer is yes by the way ;)10:50
gordnew fibre internet is being installed on thursday \o/ but that means i have to stay home so the engineer can flip a switch and plug a thing in10:59
gordif history is anything to go by, that will get screwed up too10:59
Laneyinfinity?11:00
directhexinstall was effortless for me11:00
gordzen, not bt. but bt fibre resold11:02
brobostigonis it fibre all the way? or only to the nearest switch box?11:02
gordfttc, but the cabinet is like, right there *points*, so i should get good speeds. many times better than the 1mbit be is giving me right now11:02
directhexthe issue with non-zen resold infinity is the monthly caps :/11:03
gordi'd rather deal with a monthly cap than traffic shaping11:04
directhexthe only shaping is on torrent traffic, which doesn't affect me11:10
gordbt have had fun times shaping any non http traffic, at least in the past11:11
gordwhich would affect me in lots of fun ways11:11
directhexyes, on their adsl offering11:11
gordyou can see how i can't trust them to not bring that to fibre though surely11:11
MartijnVdShmm fibre11:16
directhexi get a happy happy 76mbit11:16
directhexwhich makes me happy11:16
* Flashtek wants11:18
Flashtekideally with someone else paying...11:18
* brobostigon should in theory, be able to get the same as directhex 11:18
christeli think i have wrapped up work for the day!11:37
davmor2christel: I'm not surprised if you do it wrap things it can't take that long ;)11:45
christel:P11:46
directhexgord, fyi it looks like torrent traffic is limited to about 8mbit11:49
gordbut how would i download my ubuntu isos!11:50
directhexover http, in seconds?11:51
davmor2gord: zsync11:54
gordi'll stick with zen :) no filtering, nice pure internet11:54
gordif i go near my cap of 200gb, which i doubt, i'll just switch to the 300gb package11:54
directhexi'll stick with BT - steam downloads over http, and that's my biggest BW usage by far11:54
directhexwhat i find lolworthy is 40G caps, e.g. on the cheap infinity package11:55
gordi think for a lot of people 40gb would be fine11:55
directhex40G at 80mbit? use your entire cap in about an hour11:55
gordwell not if your only using a bit of IM, facebook and amazon11:56
directhexwhy would you have fttc, in that case?11:56
gordbecause in lots of places the only alternative is < 1mbit11:56
directhexIM needs >1 mbit?11:57
gordfacebook sure does, amazon too if you don't want it super slow11:57
gordi'm stuck on 1mbit right now, i can't even use youtube without constant buffering11:57
directhexi could break a 40G cap in 3 clicks11:59
brobostigonwget -r http://mirror.ox.ac.uk   would do it.12:01
directhexRAGE is a 22.4G install from steam. GTA4 is 16.3, GTA4 expansion is 17.4, FEAR 1 with both expansions (which are pulled down simultaneously) is 17.412:02
directhexaliens vs predator (the new one) is 15.812:02
brobostigonouch12:02
directhexalpha protocol is 12.7, batman arkham city is 17.712:02
brobostigonouch, again.12:03
directhexFEAR 2 is 14.5, frontlines fuel of war is 12.612:03
KungFuPandahi guys, where I can find "System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects" under ubuntu 12.04 ?12:03
diplodirecthex: That's why i think BW caps like that are laughable, even someone who just wants games to play needs more than that.12:04
KungFuPandaI want to enable the visual effects, but I can't find where to enable it12:04
directhexdiplo, yup.12:05
directhexKungFuPanda, they pulled that option out12:05
directhexKungFuPanda, if you want effects, use compizconfig settings manager to tweak as you like12:05
KungFuPandaI did , but none effect applied12:05
KungFuPandanvidia, dual monitor, login session using ubuntu 2D,12:06
directhexwell, that was a minor detail12:06
directhexunity 2d is not compiz12:06
directhexunity 3d is compiz12:06
directhexyou want effects, log in to unity 3d12:06
KungFuPandamy login session none unity 3d12:07
KungFuPandaonly ubuntu, ubuntu 2d12:07
AlanBell"ubuntu" is unity 3d12:07
KungFuPandao? thx, I will that12:07
KungFuPandaexit12:07
KungFuPandayep, that is works, thanks a lot12:15
KungFuPandaanother question, I used an app in ubuntu 11 before, I forget the name, anyone know it?, by using it, you can choose what keyboard you are using from a keyboard list, like microfot wireless laser 6000, then you can choose what type event the keyboard will send, then ubuntu can receive all the function, multmedia key event.12:19
KungFuPandaanyone happen to know what app it is ?12:19
KungFuPandathen you can program all the function multimedia key?12:20
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KungFuPandafound it , keytouch, thx12:28
* bigcalm returns topless13:19
zleaper ok13:19
bigcalmTis a touch warm13:19
zleapyeah same here13:19
* davmor2 was thinking of putting on a cardie it's a bit chilly here :D13:20
bigcalmdavmor2: odd man13:21
dwatkinsit's raining in Edinburgh, but rather warm and humid indoors13:21
davmor2of course I'll cook as soon as it gets to about 16:00-17:00 when the sun finally gets round to the front of the build13:21
diplodirecthex: Was it you who was after some headphones for sleeping13:22
gordmy office is on the east side of my house which is great because the sun gets it nice and really really hot in the morning then the quad core and gtx 560 keep that heat going during the rest of the day13:22
directhexdiplo, i was... although now i've learned to fall asleep to the sound of the same white noise app we use for the baby13:23
directhexproblem solved13:23
diplohttp://www.sleepphones.com/store/sleepphones-store/sleepphones-413:23
diploJust remembered seeing my mum this weekend13:23
diploThat's what she uses if you do want something that has been tried.13:23
bigcalmI hear white noise all of the time. Maybe that's why I sleep so well13:23
gordturn off a computer :P13:26
diploSo, 5-6 hours in and still pretty much sod all done13:26
diplo:/13:26
bigcalmgord: that won't stop the tinnitus :)13:26
gordit might!13:27
bigcalmI'm guessing that you don't have tinnitus then :)13:28
gordchromes awesomebar replacement thing is a pain, maybe i'll switch back to firefox13:28
gordit forces auto-complete, you can never search for what you actually want to search for with it because it forces you to autocomplete to something else13:29
diplogord: Tried opera ?13:30
diploFirst time I've used it in years and quite liking13:31
diploFound FF a real killer recently13:31
davmor2gord: my office is nnw so I get the sun for a couple of hours or so if I'm lucky last thing at night and as I've said before I have the walkway under my floor, one wall and the roof all exposed to the elements so this room never gets hot as such just humid13:31
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AlanBellyay for importing data which includes dates like "04-44-2001"14:28
brobostigonlol14:29
oimonis the htc desire sold in the UK the same as the desire g7?14:30
directhexoimon, i've never seem the "g7" nomenclature used outside of chinese mobile phone case manufacturers. htc have never used it, don't think any network has rebadged their device to use it either14:53
christelAlanBell: that's my birthday!14:53
directhexAlanBell, mysql?14:53
oimondirecthex, it's used a lot on ebay14:53
oimonbuy sony lcd scren for htc desire g714:54
AlanBelldirecthex: oracle, it was a timestamp that they converted to a nice date for me in order to be helpful14:54
oimonbut ebay sellers tend to copy all other ebayers14:54
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bigcalmHere comes the sun. Time to draw the curtains16:36
brobostigonyep, keep cool.16:37
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popeyoh golly http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/12/3154297/edify-christian-tablet-cydle-multipad-m718:15
DJonespopey: Its a rip off, cheap out of date tablet, preloaded with free apps from the market, the apps they install I've got installed on my tablet because I use them, but that tablet looks very out of date18:24
popeyseems an interesting idea though18:24
popeymuch like christian ubuntu18:24
DJonesWas just about to compare it to that18:24
popeywonder if they do a muslim and satanic version too ;)18:24
zleapbut it could harm the image of free software if people think that those are the newest versions of something18:25
zleapUbuntu ME and CE18:25
DJonespopey: Somehow, I doubt it as its an american christian group selling it18:25
* bigcalm returns to melt some more18:25
DJones:)18:26
bigcalmI've bought a few games on Steam during the sale, but haven't yet booted into GameOS to play them18:28
bigcalmMight have to do something about that18:28
bigcalmDislike rebooting to Windows though. Everything takes so long to become useable18:28
bigcalmusable18:28
ali1234free software does not have an "image"18:42
ali1234and if that's how you make a decision on what software to use, free software won't miss you18:43
gordbigcalm: is that because you have it on a hdd whilst ubuntu is on an ssd? ;)18:54
bigcalmgord: partly18:57
bigcalmBut even when Ubuntu was on an HDD, it was never so painfully slow18:57
* bigcalm tickles popey19:01
bigcalmIf it wasn't hot enough already, I'm not turning on more machines19:02
* bigcalm moves IRC over to the laptop so he can reboot workstation into GameOS19:07
bigcalmI fear my workstation is about to take off or melt19:14
brobostigon:(19:14
bigcalmWow, the pitch of the fan just got even higher19:14
bigcalmAnd again19:14
bigcalmWindows is not good for a computer's health19:15
Daraelbigcalm: There has /got/ to be a way of exploiting this.19:17
zleapGameOS  - oh windows right19:18
bigcalmzleap: it's the only use we tend to have for it19:19
zleapyeah19:19
DaraelMost of the games I'm actually interested in playing run in Wine these days.  I do have to use a patched Wine for Black & White, but hey, I'll take that over rebooting for one game any day.19:20
Darael'Specially with things like Psychonauts getting ported for the Humble Bundle.  That was a Good Day.19:22
MartijnVdSI want Scribblenauts for Ubuntu :)19:30
jacobwevening19:31
daubers%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%19:33
MartijnVdS&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&19:34
daubersoops19:34
dauberssorrt19:34
dauberssorry!19:34
* MartijnVdS sorts19:34
* jacobw randomizes19:40
* daubers always hated writing CV's20:00
MartijnVdSdaubers: LinkedIn!20:03
zleaplinkedin is good20:03
zleaphas a nice uubntu community too20:03
zleapubuntu20:03
Azelphurwell this is pretty cool, wikispeed just announced they will sell their 109 mpg (lowest for a road legal engine) for a little shy of 3,000 bitcoins :D20:06
Azelphuropen source design, modular, can have your own chassis anything from a proper race car to a 4 door20:06
Azelphurcars, they are clearly doing it right20:07
ali1234that's $3000020:12
Azelphurthey want $25k for it20:14
Azelphurhense a littly shy20:14
dogmatic69is there a way to tell if a pc has single / dual channel memory without taking it out?20:50
popeydogmatic69, will "sudo lshw -C memory" tell you?20:52
popeymine tells me a product ID20:52
popeyM471B5273DH0-CH920:52
dogmatic69it flashes stuff on the same line :/20:53
dogmatic69oh, nvm.. missed the y20:53
dogmatic69popey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1107144/20:55
dogmatic69dont see a id20:55
popeyso you have 4GB RAM?20:55
dogmatic69ye20:55
dogmatic694x 1gb20:55
popeyI'd just punch the model number into crucial.com/uk20:56
dogmatic69ye, I dont have that atm20:56
popeywhy not?20:56
dogmatic69its in the rack20:56
popeysudo dmidecode20:56
dogmatic69ah20:56
christelthe sun has gone away!20:57
popeydoesn't always reveal it20:57
christeler, wrong window20:57
bigcalmchristel: I know where it always shines20:58
christeluh oh :)20:58
bigcalmBut it would be rude to say so in here :P20:58
Pendulumchristel: it's gone away here and it isn't even night yet :(20:59
christel:(20:59
christelcan you please find the sun Pendulum20:59
christeland bring it back20:59
PendulumI think my kitten stole it. She likes to steal her toys and hide them places20:59
christelalternatively, will you be my sunshineeeeee21:00
christelawww bless21:00
christel<321:00
Pendulumchristel: I'll always be your sunshine21:00
dogmatic69popey: it has this http://pastebin.com/VpJE8b6H21:00
christel:D:D:D:D21:00
* christel does a dance with Pendulum 21:00
brobostigonQI, bbc2.21:00
popeydogmatic69, thats not all of dmidecode21:00
bigcalmbrobostigon: new series?21:01
dogmatic69popey: there is loads, but the memory looks like that21:01
popeyno, I mean the machine ID21:01
brobostigonbigcalm: no idea. just noticed it.21:01
dogmatic69http://paste.ubuntu.com/1107152/21:01
popeynot memory21:01
popeyProduct Name: ProLiant DL380 G421:01
popeypunch that into crucial.com/uk21:01
dogmatic69oh21:01
dogmatic69I see, that will not tell what ram it has though. two types are usable, single and dual channel21:02
xr1rrtrying to generate a CSR cert with OpenSSL but its only giving me a private key not a private rsa key.. any ideas or help21:02
dogmatic69I know what it can take, want to know what is physically in it21:02
popeyah21:03
cliftontsAlanBell: Are you about?22:01
bigcalmSleeeeeeeeep22:07

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