[01:23] <kayle_> i need help
[06:21] <christel> good morning
[06:22] <livingdaylight> gm
[06:23] <christel> \o/
[06:25] <livingdaylight> firefox is no longer integrated into TopBar. Someone know how to fix that?
[06:26] <ali1234> topbar?
[06:26] <ali1234> you mean global menu?
[06:29] <livingdaylight> i thought it was called topbar. Yes, global menu aguess.   Where apps have their menu integrated Apple style
[06:29] <ali1234> go to firefox extensions and make sure the global menu extension is there and enabled
[06:29] <livingdaylight> cool
[06:30] <livingdaylight> yup, its there and enabled
[06:31] <livingdaylight> I don't know whether its since I installed Unity Mail that its no longer working or since I set Unity bar to AutoHide, but FF stopped being integrated into global menu
[06:31] <ali1234> no idea then
[06:32] <livingdaylight> thanks
[06:32] <livingdaylight> maybe re-installing?
[06:32] <ali1234> seems like overkill
[06:33] <livingdaylight> this is already a fairly small laptop, and it now unnecessarily encroaches on screen realestate. Plus, should work as it should
[08:16] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[08:16] <czajkowski> Aloha
[08:17] <brobostigon> morning czajkowski
[08:17] <TheOpenSourcerer> Morning peeps \o/
[08:17] <brobostigon> morning TheOpenSourcerer
[08:18] <livingdaylight> reinstalling firefox seems overkill, but don't know how to fix the integration into global menu issue. Any ideas?
[08:21] <christel> morning lovelies :)
[08:21]  * bigcalm sneaks in
[08:22] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:25] <dwatkins> hiya
[08:25] <christel> heya bigcalm \o/
[08:25] <bigcalm> After a week off work, don't really feel like doing work today
[08:25]  * czajkowski rugby tackles christel and hugs her! 
[08:25] <bigcalm> Whoops :)
[08:25]  * christel hugs czajkowski 
[08:25] <bigcalm> christel \o/
[08:25] <oimon> bigcalm, bet you wish you had this week off
[08:25] <christel> how are you my most beautiful woman? :)
[08:25] <czajkowski> not bad now
[08:26] <bigcalm> oimon: part of me thinks that. Another part wants the money
[08:26] <JamesTait> Happy Monday, everyone! :)
[08:26] <oimon> i spy some long lunches this week
[08:26] <oimon> in fact i think i will book tomorrow off
[08:27] <oimon> wifey has morning sickness and i feel bad for her
[08:27] <bigcalm> I should book off some time in September
[08:33] <christel> happy monday JamesTait :)
[08:34] <JamesTait> christel: Good morning, m'dear, how are you this fine day?
[08:37] <christel> i am well -- pondering taking laptop outside to work in the sun \o/
[08:37] <christel> yourself? :)
[08:37] <AlanBell> morning all
[08:37] <popey> morning
[08:38] <bigcalm> Good morning Alans
[08:38] <bigcalm> christel: that always seems like a good idea until you can't see the screen
[08:38] <brobostigon> christel: dont get burnt, put sun protection on.
[08:40] <s-fox> hello
[08:40] <brobostigon> hello s-fox
[08:41] <s-fox> hello brobostigon
[08:41] <s-fox> how are you ?
[08:41] <brobostigon> s-fox: still not very well, but alittle better. and you?
[08:42] <s-fox> i am sorry to hear that brobostigon , i hope you get better soon
[08:42] <brobostigon> :) thank you./
[08:43] <s-fox> i am okay thanks, bit tired
[08:43] <JamesTait> christel: Also enjoying the sun.  I'll need to fight my boys for space in the garden, though. ;)
[08:43] <brobostigon> s-fox: :)
[08:44] <KungFuPanda> morning guys
[08:44] <s-fox> hello KungFuPanda
[08:45] <s-fox> wb popey :)
[08:46] <KungFuPanda> does any1 know what is the app for setup custom multmedia key for the keyboard ?
[08:47] <popey> KungFuPanda, gnome-control-center keyboard
[08:47] <popey> also, see compizconfig-settings-manager
[08:47] <KungFuPanda> thx
[08:52] <christel> JamesTait: hehe school holidays started eh? :P
[08:53] <popey> what's the voodoo that lets you have a keyboard and mouse control two computers?
[08:53] <christel> synergy?
[08:53] <Laney> synergy
[08:53] <Laney> i used it a bit recently, but it's kind of buggy
[08:54] <popey> ah thats the one
[08:54] <popey> oh :(
[08:55] <JamesTait> christel: They have - first day off school today, and the boys are full of it. :)
[08:55] <Laney> it got my laptop into a weird state where alt(?) was constantly pressed
[08:55] <Laney> couldn't type into any window, couldn't even switch to a vt
[08:55] <gord> i know some people that swear by synergy, i should really give it a go
[08:55] <christel> i bet!
[08:58] <bigcalm> popey: I use synergy every day and have never found it to be buggy
[08:58] <oimon> synergy plus has the bugs taken out
[08:59] <bigcalm> Look at quick-synergy. It will actually make using synergy simple to use
[08:59] <oimon> synergy suffered from stalled development for a couple of years that patches weren't getting added, so it was forked
[09:01] <popey> hmm, will look, but i have an odd network setup
[09:01] <Laney> hmm there is a new version in exp
[09:02] <Laney> 1.4.8
[09:09] <bigcalm> Ubuntu's SSO is slugish today
[09:14] <gord> i think we can all agree that its too warm to work today
[09:14] <gord> lets all go home
[09:14] <christel> haha
[09:14] <mattt> gord: ^5
[09:15] <directhex> i work from home :(
[09:15] <gord> as do i, but if i say "lets all go into the other room where the computer is not" people look at you funny
[09:16] <directhex> the bathroom?
[09:17]  * bigcalm longs for his bed
[09:18] <bigcalm> Actually, I'm not fussy. Any bed will do right now
[09:18] <directhex> i long for bed also. but my scheduling is no longer my own
[09:18] <directhex> i am a slave to the midget
[09:27] <Twinkletoes> Good morning folks
[09:28] <brobostigon> morning Twinkletoes
[09:28] <Twinkletoes> My ntp client doesn't seem to be workign correctly, it's clock is now 45 minutes out of sync with the server, the offset (from the ntpdc -s command) is 2807 and growing
[09:29]  * Twinkletoes smiles at brobostigon
[09:29] <brobostigon> :)
[09:32] <christel> aaah.. https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/394589_10151112917400937_344836818_n.jpg today's office!
[09:32] <christel> \o/
[09:32] <bigcalm> Haha
[09:33] <bigcalm> I like the addition of flowers
[09:33] <christel> \o/
[09:33]  * bigcalm grins
[09:34] <bigcalm> must.do.work!
[09:34] <bigcalm> Really don't want to face my inbox
[09:34] <christel> hehe
[09:42] <christel> i don't much want to work tbh, i'd rather just sunbathe!
[09:57] <diplo> Morning all
[09:58] <diplo> I may move outside yet
[10:00] <christel> i already did! tis WONDERFUL
[10:00] <christel> :D
[10:01] <diplo> I work in an old manor house, beautiful gardens
[10:01] <christel> :D
[10:01] <diplo> Lack of wireless in the garden though
[10:01] <popey> i think i may move outside too
[10:01] <diplo> Just asked my boss to get me a wireless extender :)
[10:01] <diplo> Also, the bloke who runs this place, 2 daughters at uni and a nice swimming pool in the back garden \o/
[10:02] <diplo> perfect
[10:02] <christel> hehe
[10:03] <popey> \o/ outside
[10:03] <gord> popey: on the x220?
[10:03] <popey> yes
[10:04] <gord> hows the screen in the sunshine?
[10:04] <popey> i am in shade under the vine
[10:04] <gord> i don't have any shade :(
[10:04] <popey> plant some vines and then wait 6 years
[10:04] <davmor2> Morning all
[10:05] <davmor2> czajkowski: Prod! Hello
[10:07] <popey> https://twitter.com/popey/status/227343902158508032/photo/1
[10:07] <popey> the view ^
[10:08] <popey> * small children optional
[10:13] <diplo> Looks lovely popey
[10:13] <davmor2> popey: Fortunately for me my office is just about at a working temperature for a change :D
[10:14] <diplo> Only good thing about the manor house is the big thick walls keep it cool
[10:15] <diplo> Hmm, right 2 1/2 hours or so in and I've done 1 thing, book my holiday time off
[10:15] <diplo> Time to get head into work I guess.
[10:18] <christel> my view consists of halfnaked women sunbathing
[10:19] <davmor2> christel: Put some more clothes on then :D
[10:19] <diplo> lol
[10:19] <christel> hahaha
[10:19] <christel> i am perfectly dressed!
[10:28] <diplo> I've just had my wireless extender's okayed if I set up a webcam of activitys down here :D
[10:29] <diplo> They are all sat in stuffy office in the middle of a trading estate.
[10:33] <bigcalm> Heh
[10:36] <davmor2> bigcalm: how's your inbox looking now?
[10:36] <bigcalm> davmor2: icky. I fear responding to some of the emails will make it even more icky
[10:37] <bigcalm> davmor2: guns appear to be bringing LUG members out of the woodwork
[10:37] <bigcalm> Even GingerDog is going :D
[10:37]  * bigcalm waves to GingerDog
[10:38] <davmor2> bigcalm: indeed they always do we are all gun toting maniacs who should all live in america apparently :D
[10:38] <bigcalm> gord: are you coming on Thursday?
[10:39] <bigcalm> mrevell: are you coming on Thursday?
[10:50] <davmor2> mrevell: the right answer is yes by the way ;)
[10:59] <gord> new fibre internet is being installed on thursday \o/ but that means i have to stay home so the engineer can flip a switch and plug a thing in
[10:59] <gord> if history is anything to go by, that will get screwed up too
[11:00] <Laney> infinity?
[11:00] <directhex> install was effortless for me
[11:02] <gord> zen, not bt. but bt fibre resold
[11:02] <brobostigon> is it fibre all the way? or only to the nearest switch box?
[11:02] <gord> fttc, but the cabinet is like, right there *points*, so i should get good speeds. many times better than the 1mbit be is giving me right now
[11:03] <directhex> the issue with non-zen resold infinity is the monthly caps :/
[11:04] <gord> i'd rather deal with a monthly cap than traffic shaping
[11:10] <directhex> the only shaping is on torrent traffic, which doesn't affect me
[11:11] <gord> bt have had fun times shaping any non http traffic, at least in the past
[11:11] <gord> which would affect me in lots of fun ways
[11:11] <directhex> yes, on their adsl offering
[11:11] <gord> you can see how i can't trust them to not bring that to fibre though surely
[11:16] <MartijnVdS> hmm fibre
[11:16] <directhex> i get a happy happy 76mbit
[11:16] <directhex> which makes me happy
[11:18]  * Flashtek wants
[11:18] <Flashtek> ideally with someone else paying...
[11:18]  * brobostigon should in theory, be able to get the same as directhex 
[11:37] <christel> i think i have wrapped up work for the day!
[11:45] <davmor2> christel: I'm not surprised if you do it wrap things it can't take that long ;)
[11:46] <christel> :P
[11:49] <directhex> gord, fyi it looks like torrent traffic is limited to about 8mbit
[11:50] <gord> but how would i download my ubuntu isos!
[11:51] <directhex> over http, in seconds?
[11:54] <davmor2> gord: zsync
[11:54] <gord> i'll stick with zen :) no filtering, nice pure internet
[11:54] <gord> if i go near my cap of 200gb, which i doubt, i'll just switch to the 300gb package
[11:54] <directhex> i'll stick with BT - steam downloads over http, and that's my biggest BW usage by far
[11:55] <directhex> what i find lolworthy is 40G caps, e.g. on the cheap infinity package
[11:55] <gord> i think for a lot of people 40gb would be fine
[11:55] <directhex> 40G at 80mbit? use your entire cap in about an hour
[11:56] <gord> well not if your only using a bit of IM, facebook and amazon
[11:56] <directhex> why would you have fttc, in that case?
[11:56] <gord> because in lots of places the only alternative is < 1mbit
[11:57] <directhex> IM needs >1 mbit?
[11:57] <gord> facebook sure does, amazon too if you don't want it super slow
[11:57] <gord> i'm stuck on 1mbit right now, i can't even use youtube without constant buffering
[11:59] <directhex> i could break a 40G cap in 3 clicks
[12:01] <brobostigon> wget -r http://mirror.ox.ac.uk   would do it.
[12:02] <directhex> RAGE is a 22.4G install from steam. GTA4 is 16.3, GTA4 expansion is 17.4, FEAR 1 with both expansions (which are pulled down simultaneously) is 17.4
[12:02] <directhex> aliens vs predator (the new one) is 15.8
[12:02] <brobostigon> ouch
[12:02] <directhex> alpha protocol is 12.7, batman arkham city is 17.7
[12:03] <brobostigon> ouch, again.
[12:03] <directhex> FEAR 2 is 14.5, frontlines fuel of war is 12.6
[12:03] <KungFuPanda> hi guys, where I can find "System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects" under ubuntu 12.04 ?
[12:04] <diplo> directhex: That's why i think BW caps like that are laughable, even someone who just wants games to play needs more than that.
[12:04] <KungFuPanda> I want to enable the visual effects, but I can't find where to enable it
[12:05] <directhex> diplo, yup.
[12:05] <directhex> KungFuPanda, they pulled that option out
[12:05] <directhex> KungFuPanda, if you want effects, use compizconfig settings manager to tweak as you like
[12:05] <KungFuPanda> I did , but none effect applied
[12:06] <KungFuPanda> nvidia, dual monitor, login session using ubuntu 2D,
[12:06] <directhex> well, that was a minor detail
[12:06] <directhex> unity 2d is not compiz
[12:06] <directhex> unity 3d is compiz
[12:06] <directhex> you want effects, log in to unity 3d
[12:07] <KungFuPanda> my login session none unity 3d
[12:07] <KungFuPanda> only ubuntu, ubuntu 2d
[12:07] <AlanBell> "ubuntu" is unity 3d
[12:07] <KungFuPanda> o? thx, I will that
[12:07] <KungFuPanda> exit
[12:15] <KungFuPanda> yep, that is works, thanks a lot
[12:19] <KungFuPanda> another question, I used an app in ubuntu 11 before, I forget the name, anyone know it?, by using it, you can choose what keyboard you are using from a keyboard list, like microfot wireless laser 6000, then you can choose what type event the keyboard will send, then ubuntu can receive all the function, multmedia key event.
[12:19] <KungFuPanda> anyone happen to know what app it is ?
[12:20] <KungFuPanda> then you can program all the function multimedia key?
[12:28] <KungFuPanda> found it , keytouch, thx
[13:19]  * bigcalm returns topless
[13:19] <zleap> er ok
[13:19] <bigcalm> Tis a touch warm
[13:19] <zleap> yeah same here
[13:20]  * davmor2 was thinking of putting on a cardie it's a bit chilly here :D
[13:21] <bigcalm> davmor2: odd man
[13:21] <dwatkins> it's raining in Edinburgh, but rather warm and humid indoors
[13:21] <davmor2> of course I'll cook as soon as it gets to about 16:00-17:00 when the sun finally gets round to the front of the build
[13:22] <diplo> directhex: Was it you who was after some headphones for sleeping
[13:22] <gord> my office is on the east side of my house which is great because the sun gets it nice and really really hot in the morning then the quad core and gtx 560 keep that heat going during the rest of the day
[13:23] <directhex> diplo, i was... although now i've learned to fall asleep to the sound of the same white noise app we use for the baby
[13:23] <directhex> problem solved
[13:23] <diplo> http://www.sleepphones.com/store/sleepphones-store/sleepphones-4
[13:23] <diplo> Just remembered seeing my mum this weekend
[13:23] <diplo> That's what she uses if you do want something that has been tried.
[13:23] <bigcalm> I hear white noise all of the time. Maybe that's why I sleep so well
[13:26] <gord> turn off a computer :P
[13:26] <diplo> So, 5-6 hours in and still pretty much sod all done
[13:26] <diplo> :/
[13:26] <bigcalm> gord: that won't stop the tinnitus :)
[13:27] <gord> it might!
[13:28] <bigcalm> I'm guessing that you don't have tinnitus then :)
[13:28] <gord> chromes awesomebar replacement thing is a pain, maybe i'll switch back to firefox
[13:29] <gord> it forces auto-complete, you can never search for what you actually want to search for with it because it forces you to autocomplete to something else
[13:30] <diplo> gord: Tried opera ?
[13:31] <diplo> First time I've used it in years and quite liking
[13:31] <diplo> Found FF a real killer recently
[13:31] <davmor2> gord: my office is nnw so I get the sun for a couple of hours or so if I'm lucky last thing at night and as I've said before I have the walkway under my floor, one wall and the roof all exposed to the elements so this room never gets hot as such just humid
[14:28] <AlanBell> yay for importing data which includes dates like "04-44-2001"
[14:29] <brobostigon> lol
[14:30] <oimon> is the htc desire sold in the UK the same as the desire g7?
[14:53] <directhex> oimon, i've never seem the "g7" nomenclature used outside of chinese mobile phone case manufacturers. htc have never used it, don't think any network has rebadged their device to use it either
[14:53] <christel> AlanBell: that's my birthday!
[14:53] <directhex> AlanBell, mysql?
[14:53] <oimon> directhex, it's used a lot on ebay
[14:54] <oimon> buy sony lcd scren for htc desire g7
[14:54] <AlanBell> directhex: oracle, it was a timestamp that they converted to a nice date for me in order to be helpful
[14:54] <oimon> but ebay sellers tend to copy all other ebayers
[16:36] <bigcalm> Here comes the sun. Time to draw the curtains
[16:37] <brobostigon> yep, keep cool.
[18:15] <popey> oh golly http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/12/3154297/edify-christian-tablet-cydle-multipad-m7
[18:24] <DJones> popey: Its a rip off, cheap out of date tablet, preloaded with free apps from the market, the apps they install I've got installed on my tablet because I use them, but that tablet looks very out of date
[18:24] <popey> seems an interesting idea though
[18:24] <popey> much like christian ubuntu
[18:24] <DJones> Was just about to compare it to that
[18:24] <popey> wonder if they do a muslim and satanic version too ;)
[18:25] <zleap> but it could harm the image of free software if people think that those are the newest versions of something
[18:25] <zleap> Ubuntu ME and CE
[18:25] <DJones> popey: Somehow, I doubt it as its an american christian group selling it
[18:25]  * bigcalm returns to melt some more
[18:26] <DJones> :)
[18:28] <bigcalm> I've bought a few games on Steam during the sale, but haven't yet booted into GameOS to play them
[18:28] <bigcalm> Might have to do something about that
[18:28] <bigcalm> Dislike rebooting to Windows though. Everything takes so long to become useable
[18:28] <bigcalm> usable
[18:42] <ali1234> free software does not have an "image"
[18:43] <ali1234> and if that's how you make a decision on what software to use, free software won't miss you
[18:54] <gord> bigcalm: is that because you have it on a hdd whilst ubuntu is on an ssd? ;)
[18:57] <bigcalm> gord: partly
[18:57] <bigcalm> But even when Ubuntu was on an HDD, it was never so painfully slow
[19:01]  * bigcalm tickles popey
[19:02] <bigcalm> If it wasn't hot enough already, I'm not turning on more machines
[19:07]  * bigcalm moves IRC over to the laptop so he can reboot workstation into GameOS
[19:14] <bigcalm> I fear my workstation is about to take off or melt
[19:14] <brobostigon> :(
[19:14] <bigcalm> Wow, the pitch of the fan just got even higher
[19:14] <bigcalm> And again
[19:15] <bigcalm> Windows is not good for a computer's health
[19:17] <Darael> bigcalm: There has /got/ to be a way of exploiting this.
[19:18] <zleap> GameOS  - oh windows right
[19:19] <bigcalm> zleap: it's the only use we tend to have for it
[19:19] <zleap> yeah
[19:20] <Darael> Most of the games I'm actually interested in playing run in Wine these days.  I do have to use a patched Wine for Black & White, but hey, I'll take that over rebooting for one game any day.
[19:22] <Darael> 'Specially with things like Psychonauts getting ported for the Humble Bundle.  That was a Good Day.
[19:30] <MartijnVdS> I want Scribblenauts for Ubuntu :)
[19:31] <jacobw> evening
[19:33] <daubers> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
[19:34] <MartijnVdS> &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
[19:34] <daubers> oops
[19:34] <daubers> sorrt
[19:34] <daubers> sorry!
[19:34]  * MartijnVdS sorts
[19:40]  * jacobw randomizes
[20:00]  * daubers always hated writing CV's
[20:03] <MartijnVdS> daubers: LinkedIn!
[20:03] <zleap> linkedin is good
[20:03] <zleap> has a nice uubntu community too
[20:03] <zleap> ubuntu
[20:06] <Azelphur> well this is pretty cool, wikispeed just announced they will sell their 109 mpg (lowest for a road legal engine) for a little shy of 3,000 bitcoins :D
[20:06] <Azelphur> open source design, modular, can have your own chassis anything from a proper race car to a 4 door
[20:07] <Azelphur> cars, they are clearly doing it right
[20:12] <ali1234> that's $30000
[20:14] <Azelphur> they want $25k for it
[20:14] <Azelphur> hense a littly shy
[20:50] <dogmatic69> is there a way to tell if a pc has single / dual channel memory without taking it out?
[20:52] <popey> dogmatic69, will "sudo lshw -C memory" tell you?
[20:52] <popey> mine tells me a product ID
[20:52] <popey> M471B5273DH0-CH9
[20:53] <dogmatic69> it flashes stuff on the same line :/
[20:53] <dogmatic69> oh, nvm.. missed the y
[20:55] <dogmatic69> popey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1107144/
[20:55] <dogmatic69> dont see a id
[20:55] <popey> so you have 4GB RAM?
[20:55] <dogmatic69> ye
[20:55] <dogmatic69> 4x 1gb
[20:56] <popey> I'd just punch the model number into crucial.com/uk
[20:56] <dogmatic69> ye, I dont have that atm
[20:56] <popey> why not?
[20:56] <dogmatic69> its in the rack
[20:56] <popey> sudo dmidecode
[20:56] <dogmatic69> ah
[20:57] <christel> the sun has gone away!
[20:57] <popey> doesn't always reveal it
[20:57] <christel> er, wrong window
[20:58] <bigcalm> christel: I know where it always shines
[20:58] <christel> uh oh :)
[20:58] <bigcalm> But it would be rude to say so in here :P
[20:59] <Pendulum> christel: it's gone away here and it isn't even night yet :(
[20:59] <christel> :(
[20:59] <christel> can you please find the sun Pendulum
[20:59] <christel> and bring it back
[20:59] <Pendulum> I think my kitten stole it. She likes to steal her toys and hide them places
[21:00] <christel> alternatively, will you be my sunshineeeeee
[21:00] <christel> awww bless
[21:00] <christel> <3
[21:00] <Pendulum> christel: I'll always be your sunshine
[21:00] <dogmatic69> popey: it has this http://pastebin.com/VpJE8b6H
[21:00] <christel> :D:D:D:D
[21:00]  * christel does a dance with Pendulum 
[21:00] <brobostigon> QI, bbc2.
[21:00] <popey> dogmatic69, thats not all of dmidecode
[21:01] <bigcalm> brobostigon: new series?
[21:01] <dogmatic69> popey: there is loads, but the memory looks like that
[21:01] <popey> no, I mean the machine ID
[21:01] <brobostigon> bigcalm: no idea. just noticed it.
[21:01] <dogmatic69> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1107152/
[21:01] <popey> not memory
[21:01] <popey> 	Product Name: ProLiant DL380 G4
[21:01] <popey> punch that into crucial.com/uk
[21:01] <dogmatic69> oh
[21:02] <dogmatic69> I see, that will not tell what ram it has though. two types are usable, single and dual channel
[21:02] <xr1rr> trying to generate a CSR cert with OpenSSL but its only giving me a private key not a private rsa key.. any ideas or help
[21:02] <dogmatic69> I know what it can take, want to know what is physically in it
[21:03] <popey> ah
[22:01] <cliftonts> AlanBell: Are you about?
[22:07] <bigcalm> Sleeeeeeeeep