[05:24] <Squirm> morning
[05:42] <Kilos> good morning za
[05:42] <Kilos> Maaz, seen superfly 
[05:42] <Maaz> Kilos: superfly was last seen 9 hours, 24 minutes and 21 seconds ago in private on freenode [2012-07-22 22:18:07 SAST], and has been online on freenode since 2012-07-22 07:43:16 SAST
[06:52] <Kilos> inetpro, skape se water het nog steeds ys op so 7°c was net n droom
[06:58] <charl> hi all
[06:58] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[06:58]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[06:58] <Kilos> yo charl howzit
[06:58] <charl> hi Kilos 
[06:59] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[06:59] <Maaz> Kilos: Done
[06:59] <charl> it's going well thanks, yourself?
[06:59] <charl> nicely rested after the weekend
[06:59] <Kilos> good ty
[06:59] <Kilos> every day is the same to me
[06:59] <charl> i am so well rested i have to recover from being so rested
[06:59] <charl> but luckily i have 5 days for that
[06:59] <Kilos> haha
[07:00] <charl> i have a feeling i will have recovered from the rest by mid-day
[07:02] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos!
[07:02] <Kilos> Maaz, thanks
[07:02] <Maaz> Kilos: No problem
[07:02] <charl> Maaz: dankeschon!
[07:02] <Maaz> charl: Huh?
[07:02] <charl> Maaz: danke schon!
[07:02] <Kilos> lol
[07:03] <Maaz> charl: *blink*
[07:03] <charl> bah :P
[07:03] <charl> Maaz: botsnack
[07:03] <Maaz> Yay, at last someone thinks about me as well
[07:48] <Kilos> yo Banlam 
[07:49] <Kilos> hi there sflr 
[07:49] <Kilos> you better?
[07:49] <sflr> good morning all
[07:49] <sflr> hey Kilos, yes i'm back at work! :)
[07:49] <Kilos> yay thats good news
[07:49] <sflr> yeah, i was sick of being sick
[07:50] <Kilos> hehe the fly and mrs had a son 
[07:50] <Kilos> another one
[07:57] <sflr> oh wow that is great news! :) didnt know it was THAT close!
[07:58] <Kilos> yeah im waiting for him to come online. he posted on fbook
[07:58] <Kilos> and the pro told us
[09:22] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[09:22]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[09:22] <charl> more caffiene
[09:22] <charl> dirty mugs again?!?!
[09:22] <charl> yuck disgusting
[09:22] <charl> time people start washing their dirty mugs when they are finished
[09:26] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[09:27] <magespawn> morning all\
[09:38] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[09:38] <magespawn> hey Kilos
[10:00] <charl> hi magespawn 
[10:00] <charl> Maaz: thanks
[10:00] <Maaz> charl: Sure
[10:09] <magespawn> hi charl
[10:22] <zeref> hmmmm
[10:29] <charl> hi zeref 
[10:30] <zeref> hi charl 
[10:31] <zeref> ever used quickly?
[10:53] <Kilos> hmmm
[10:55] <Kilos> inetpro, is jy darem by die werk al?
[10:55] <inetpro> wb Kilos
[10:56] <Kilos> ty
[11:00] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday whats news
[11:00] <Kilos> ?
[11:01] <Kilos> we gonna have to change you nick to maiasometime
[11:03] <maiatoday> hey Kilos
[11:03] <maiatoday> yup def not maiaallthetime
[11:05] <Kilos> hehe
[11:05] <Kilos> youre forgiven though
[11:05] <maiatoday> hmm
[11:05] <maiatoday> ok thanks
[11:06] <Kilos> yw
[11:08] <Kilos> magespawn, who did you address it to?
[11:08] <Kilos> miles sharpe
[11:09] <magespawn> no just sent it to the PO Box Kilos.
[11:09] <Kilos> lol
[11:09] <Kilos> you lie
[11:09] <magespawn> why?
[11:10] <Kilos> i gonna ask other neighbour to check so she will need to,know
[11:10] <magespawn> have you got the tracking number I gave you?
[11:10] <Kilos> i dunno if i must give her a letter as well
[11:11] <Kilos> yessir
[11:12] <Kilos> did you address it to kilos or my name?
[11:13] <magespawn> no she will need her id though. neither just the PO Box.
[11:13] <magespawn> what is that number again/
[11:13] <magespawn> ?
[11:14] <Kilos> Tracking Number: RD 797 533 525 ZA
[11:35] <Kilos> yo tonberryE352 
[11:45] <Kilos> yo Trixar_za 
[11:46] <Trixar_za> Yo Kilos
[11:54] <Trixar_za> Hmmm, weird. I've lost the will to fight online. Seems pointless now :P
[11:55] <Kilos> haha youre growing up
[11:56] <Trixar_za> Nah, It just takes more effort to argue with people than it does to agree with them and suggest an alternative route that's within their power
[11:57] <Trixar_za> Laziness wins :P
[11:57] <Kilos> lol
[11:57] <charl> problem is unfortunately that it persists low standards
[11:57] <charl> you allow people to get away with it
[11:58] <Trixar_za> http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?LazinessImpatienceHubris
[11:58] <Kilos> no man you just twist their opinions subtley till they think it was their ideas
[11:58] <Trixar_za> Yes and sometimes something wins on merit
[11:59] <charl> sounds to me like some major BS
[11:59] <Trixar_za> You just have to get people asking the right questions so you can give them the right answers
[11:59] <Kilos> hehe
[11:59] <Trixar_za> Then you convince them it's their idea
[12:00] <Kilos> then praise them some and they will eat out of your hands
[12:00] <charl> there is an old scotsman that taught my dad the three B's - "bulls*** baffles brains"
[12:00] <Kilos> yip
[12:01] <Trixar_za> There is a name for it. I think it's called the Socrates method.
[12:01] <charl> the socratic method?
[12:01] <Trixar_za> Where you ask questions to guide somebody's taughts about something
[12:02] <charl> well, look at where greece is now
[12:02] <charl> not exactly an example of how to run things :)
[12:02] <Trixar_za> lol, well his last words were "I drank WHAT?"
[12:02] <charl> :D
[12:02] <Kilos> hehe
[12:03] <Trixar_za> The Greeks weren't so bad. It went a little wrong with the Romans though
[12:04] <Trixar_za> And then they got beat by people that thought attacking naked made them invincible
[12:04] <Trixar_za> (The Celts)
[12:04] <charl> figures
[12:04] <Trixar_za> It probably does
[12:05] <Trixar_za> If you see a naked madman and madwomen attacking you with swords, I would be pretty surprised too
[12:05] <Kilos> lol
[12:07] <charl> no i meant it does sound very celtic
[12:07] <charl> i went to ireland once
[12:10] <Trixar_za> Some of the funniest things about the world history you just can't make up
[12:11] <charl> it gets a heck of a lot worse than that
[12:11] <charl> there were some master occultists under the celts
[12:19] <magespawn> At Office  	  	  	2012/07/19  	09:20  	HERCULES  	First Notification to recipient 
[12:19] <magespawn> Kilos^^
[12:19] <Kilos> ty magespawn will go give tracking number now
[12:20] <Kilos> didnt get the notification
[12:20] <magespawn> so according to them it has been there since thursday last week.
[12:21] <Kilos> eish
[12:21] <Kilos> bbl
[12:22] <magespawn> np
[12:22] <magespawn> they have become a bit of a joke
[12:27] <Trixar_za> bbl
[12:34] <Kilos> im back
[12:34] <inetpro> hmm...
[12:34] <Kilos> yo inetpro 
[12:34] <inetpro> Kilos: maiatoday using Mint?
[12:34] <Kilos> you sound like zer
[12:34] <Kilos> oh my goodness what happened
[12:34] <maiatoday> nope Kilos
[12:35] <inetpro> even a desktop named after her
[12:35] <inetpro> Linux Mint 13 “Maya” Xfce released! http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2088
[12:35] <maiatoday> some pcs on Precise and one or two on Oneiric
[12:35] <Kilos> lol
[12:35] <inetpro> oh maiatoday you awake? :-)
[12:35] <Kilos> its the pro stirring the pot
[12:35] <maiatoday> I never sleep (almost) I just don't always listen
[12:36] <Kilos> inetpro, she isnt deaf, she is just ignoring you
[12:37] <Kilos> confluency, you can still say hi now and again
[12:37] <Kilos> inetpro, whats news from the fly?
[12:40] <inetpro> Kilos: I honestly don't know enough about his moves to be able to tell
[12:41] <Kilos> oh thought he came on here at 11pm last night
[12:43] <Kilos> didnt know if you were still online at that time
[13:11] <inetpro> very interesting
[13:11] <inetpro> Canonical’s Unity Interface Reaches Fedora http://www.thevarguy.com/2012/07/23/canonicals-unity-interface-reaches-fedora/
[13:12] <inetpro> The scathing reviews and bitter user feedback of yesteryear have given way to acceptance and even enthusiasm for the interface
[13:14] <inetpro> "...now broken out of the Ubuntu mold, even if only slightly, and it could go anywhere from here"
[13:15] <magespawn> that is a win for all of us. gives us more choice all around.
[13:27] <charl> here is a question for all you people
[13:27] <charl> open source voip clients on ubuntu
[13:27] <charl> recommendations?
[13:27] <charl> i have tried a bunch and the one is worse than the next
[13:27] <charl> i want to replace skype with something that is fully open source
[13:27] <charl> i don't mind if it's sip, jingle or something else, as long as it can get through an ipv4 nat router
[13:28] <charl> ipv6 would also be an option but if it's tunneled it might be too slow
[13:40] <Kilos> charl, have you tried pidgin
[13:41] <Kilos> and there was an alternative to skype a while back
[13:42] <charl> Kilos: yup i tried it, failed miserably at voice
[13:42] <charl> with both ends using pidgin
[13:45] <Kilos> eish
[13:45] <Kilos> im looking if i saved the alternatives link
[13:48] <Kilos> charl, http://www.jitsi.org
[13:49] <Kilos> http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/222556/gnu_free_call_an_open_source_skype_alternative.html
[13:50] <Kilos> http://www.osalt.com/skype
[13:51] <charl> yup tried jitsi as well
[13:51] <charl> it is a java application, incredibly slow and unstable
[13:51] <charl> thanks taking a look at those two links....
[13:51] <charl> ekiga actually has good call quality but the latency is terrible
[13:52] <charl> gnu free call sounds promising
[13:54] <charl> linphone is cool but haven't managed to figure out how to run that behind a nat yet
[13:54] <charl> without configuring port forwarding
[13:54] <charl> i could try it from work because here my laptop has a public (internet routable) ip address on the wlan
[13:54] <charl> we have a /16 ipv4 subnet
[13:54] <Kilos> http://superuser.com/questions/281821/free-open-source-cross-platform-alternative-to-skype
[13:54] <charl> so we don't use nat
[13:55] <Kilos> i dunno what you are talking about
[13:55] <Kilos> the ipv6 thing
[13:55] <Kilos> oh 4
[13:55] <charl> empathy is another one we tried
[13:55] <charl> that has absolutely horrific call quality
[13:55] <Kilos> i dont fancy empathry at all
[13:56] <charl> and apparently no functional noise cancelling / echo cancelling
[13:56] <Kilos> something wrong your pidgin man
[13:56] <charl> when i try to download google talk i get an .exe
[13:56] <charl> could be but it didn't work for me at all
[13:57] <Kilos> try it with someone using the same internet tower as you then you will see if its the net or your side
[13:57] <charl> i couldn't get any voice from the other end and they couldn't hear me either
[13:57] <charl> and that was during an open call
[13:57] <Kilos> eish
[13:57] <charl> the same internet tower?
[13:57] <charl> lol what the heck is an internet tower :)
[13:57] <Kilos> oh you not on broadband
[13:57] <Kilos> lol
[13:57] <charl> eh well i am on 802.11g
[13:58] <charl> it's not exactly fast but it's good enough for voip
[13:58] <charl> lemme do a speed test quick
[13:58] <charl> i seem to be getting 15 mbps down and 16 mbps up
[13:59] <Kilos> thats good
[14:00] <Kilos> is there someone else at work there you can try on lan
[14:00] <Kilos> or have you got 2 pcs there
[14:00] <charl> if i ping google.com my ping tends to average just above 10ms so i don't think the latency is too bad either
[14:01] <charl> and besides, if i skype it's perfect
[14:01] <charl> so it can't be the bandwidth
[14:01] <Kilos> yip
[14:01] <Kilos> its by you
[14:02] <Kilos> try getting 2 pcs on your lan and try sort the prob
[14:03] <Kilos> maybe you got something missing
[14:05] <Kilos> have you tried kopete
[14:05] <Kilos> you are on ubuntu hey?
[14:05] <Kilos> or linux at least
[14:05] <charl> yes
[14:05] <charl> ubuntu
[14:06] <charl> yes tried kopete too
[14:06] <charl> didn't allow us to make calls at all
[14:06] <Kilos> eish
[14:07] <Kilos> http://www.phrozensmoke.com/projects/pyvoicechat/
[14:07] <Kilos> py is python hey?
[14:07] <charl> usually yeah
[14:08] <charl> looks like a yahoo client though
[14:10] <Kilos> http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Open+Source+VOIP+Software
[14:11] <Kilos> http://www.linphone.org/
[14:12] <Kilos> http://sflphone.org/
[14:12] <Kilos> hehe good luck
[14:13] <charl> yeah linphone and sflphone are the other two i've tried
[14:14] <charl> linphone was the one with nat issues and sflphone also had terrible call quality, just like empathy
[14:14] <charl> i seriously can't believe that there are no good open source options out there
[14:21] <Kilos> eish
[14:54] <magespawn> i am out of here later all
[14:54] <Kilos> later magespawn 
[15:08] <Squirm> ok, this is a debian thing on my raspberry pi
[15:08] <Squirm> $ sudo aptitude install vim
[15:08] <Squirm> 0 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 66 to remove
[15:08] <Squirm> wtf
[15:11] <tumbleweed> already installed?
[15:24] <Kilos> hmm Squirm answer?
[15:25] <Squirm> tumbleweed: it's not
[15:25] <Squirm> vi is
[15:25] <tumbleweed> did it not have anything else to say on the matter?
[15:25] <tumbleweed> oh, sorry
[15:25] <tumbleweed> 2 newly installed, there we go
[15:26] <tumbleweed> what exactly are we wtf-ing?
[15:26] <Squirm> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[15:26] <Squirm>   liba52-0.7.4{u} libaa1{u} libass4{u} libasyncns0{u} libaudio2{u} 
[15:26] <Squirm>   libavc1394-0{u} libavutil49{u} libcaca0{u} libcddb2{u} libdc1394-22{u} 
[15:26] <Squirm> to name a few
[15:26] <tumbleweed> is that a problem?
[15:26] <Squirm> tumbleweed: aptitude install vim - it wants to remove 66 packages
[15:26] <tumbleweed> they're all libraries. Presumably nothing depends on them
[15:27] <tumbleweed> aptitude uninstalls automatically installed orphan packages by default
[15:27] <tumbleweed> apt-get only does when you run apt-get autoremove
[15:27] <Squirm> ok, that could make sense
[15:27] <charl> ciao
[15:27] <Squirm> it's on my Pi. which I installed using a debian image
[15:28] <Squirm> so they must have packaged them with the image
[15:28] <tumbleweed> did it remove anything that wasn't a library?
[15:28] <Squirm> bmysql-common{u} qt4-qtconfig{u} vlc-data{u} 
[15:28] <Squirm> ok, vlc failed to install, so that one is fine
[15:29] <tumbleweed> right, a bunch of those are things vlc depends on
[15:29] <Squirm> (I don't know how that b crept in before mysql
[15:29] <Squirm> ok
[15:29] <Squirm> that could make sense
[15:29] <Squirm> thanks
[15:29] <Squirm> I understands now
[16:23] <Kilos> yo superfly congrats man
[17:11] <nuvolari> o/ g'evening
[17:11] <nuvolari> naand oom Kilos 
[17:11] <nuvolari> lo Squirm 
[17:13] <magespawn> Evening all
[17:13] <nuvolari> howdy magespawn 
[17:13] <nuvolari> had a good day?
[17:13] <magespawn> Hi nuvolari 
[17:14] <magespawn> Relatively, yes
[17:14] <magespawn> And yourself?
[17:15] <nuvolari> magespawn: doing good thank you
[17:17] <nuvolari> Kilos: ping
[17:18] <magespawn> Had a laptop today that would not boot today, caps lock light flashing indicatedna coruppt bios so attempted to repair it, only to find 30 mins later it had no hard drive.
[17:19] <nuvolari> lol
[17:19] <nuvolari> where did it go??
[17:20] <Kilos> nuvolari, pong
[17:20] <Kilos> sorry was eating
[17:20] <magespawn> No I idea, and the person who brought it in did so for somebody else so they also had no idea
[17:21] <Kilos> haha @ magespawn 
[17:21] <magespawn> Apparently the owner lent it to somebody who said it crashed and that it would not start.
[17:22] <Kilos> hahaha thats so evil
[17:22] <magespawn> Looks like the drive got up and left on its own.
[17:23] <Kilos> lappy drives arent cheap
[17:24] <magespawn> I wonder sometimes if there is not somebody out there who is testing me.
[17:26] <magespawn> Bizzaro Monday.
[17:26] <Kilos> weird. what does the owner say mage
[17:28] <magespawn> Do not know yet, they are coming in tomrrow.
[17:28] <Kilos> thats shocking
[17:28] <magespawn> Friend brought it in today.
[17:28] <magespawn> Really strange.
[17:29] <Kilos> thieves everywhere
[17:29] <Kilos> theives
[17:29] <magespawn> That along with the stolen laptop last week.
[17:29] <Kilos> eish diewe
[17:29] <Kilos> ouch, from the shop?
[17:31] <magespawn> Guy brought it in for formatting and for me to remove the password, had no charger and a cracked screen with an assest sticker on it.
[17:31] <not_found> o/
[17:31] <magespawn> Gigabyte netbook
[17:32] <Kilos> wow and now its gone magespawn ?
[17:33] <Kilos> trying to get a new one outa you?
[17:34] <magespawn> No Kilos cat by the tail
[17:34] <Kilos> huh?
[17:34] <magespawn> The guy who brought it to me had either stolen it or recieved stopen goods.
[17:34] <magespawn> Stolen
[17:34] <Kilos> ah sorry
[17:34] <magespawn> Np
[17:35] <magespawn> The guy who brought it to me wanted me to crack the password then format it so that he could use it.
[17:35] <Kilos> hope you have a sign up anyway about all stuff brought in is at owners risk
[17:37] <magespawn> Yes and always tell ppl the we cannot be resposible for data loss too.
[17:37] <Kilos> whew
[17:38] <Kilos> life sucks at times hey
[17:39] <magespawn> Wierd couple of days though.
[17:42] <Kilos> wb AndChat|68096 
[17:42] <AndChat|68096> Ty
[17:45] <magespawn> Back again, like a cold.
[17:46] <charl> good evening
[17:46] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[17:46]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[17:46] <Kilos> hi charl 
[17:46] <nuvolari> Maaz: coffee please
[17:46] <Maaz> nuvolari: Done
[17:46] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[17:46] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure
[17:46] <nuvolari> lo charl 
[17:46] <nuvolari> Maaz: botsnack
[17:46] <magespawn> Maaz, coffe please
[17:46] <Kilos> hys geskok
[17:47] <magespawn> Maaz, coffee please
[17:47] <Maaz> magespawn: Yessir
[17:47] <Maaz> Yay, at last someone thinks about me as well
[17:47] <nuvolari> lol
[17:47] <Maaz> magespawn: Go get it yourself!
[17:47] <Kilos> coffee magespawn 
[17:47] <Kilos> awyou too fast
[17:47] <charl> lo nuvolari 
[17:47] <magespawn> Hey typing on a touch screen too
[17:47] <Kilos> lol
[17:48] <magespawn> Hi charl
[17:48] <charl> hi magespawn 
[17:49] <Kilos> Maaz, move it
[17:49] <Maaz> If I get anymore cheek Kilos you can do it yourself next time
[17:49] <Kilos> hmm
[17:50] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl, nuvolari, Kilos and magespawn!
[17:50] <Kilos> the fly is online but not saying anything
[17:50] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[17:50] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[17:50] <magespawn> Think he might be a bit busy.
[17:50] <nuvolari> thatks Maaz 
[17:51] <magespawn> Ty Maaz, botsnack
[17:51] <Kilos> he wont acknowledge that
[17:51] <Kilos> nick first
[17:51] <magespawn> Maaz, ty , botsnack
[17:51] <Maaz> :)
[17:51] <Kilos> haha
[17:52] <Kilos> thats new
[17:52] <magespawn> A smile from a bot.
[17:53] <Kilos> no a smile not some remark
[17:53] <magespawn> Maybe he will winkmat me next time.
[17:53] <Kilos> lol
[17:56] <Kilos> Maaz, seen superfly 
[17:56] <Maaz> Kilos: superfly was last seen 21 hours, 38 minutes and 12 seconds ago in private on freenode [2012-07-22 22:18:07 SAST], and has been online on freenode since 2012-07-22 07:43:16 SAST
[17:56] <Kilos> lies
[17:57] <Kilos> was on here years ago
[17:57] <Kilos> either him or the pro helped me get here from the lists
[17:58] <Kilos> that was ubuntu 8.04 or 8.10 time methinks
[18:00] <Kilos> hey not_found you have a good day?
[18:01] <not_found> fine day thanks uncle Kilos ... and you?
[18:01] <magespawn> I think we actually started here with in a fews days of each other Kilos.
[18:01] <magespawn> Brb fish two bed time.
[18:01] <Kilos> k
[18:02] <Kilos> im good ty not_found why you so queiet>
[18:02] <Kilos> supposed to great when you come online
[18:03] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:03] <Kilos> quiet
[18:03] <Kilos> hi Cantide 
[18:03] <Cantide> hey Kilos :D
[18:03] <Cantide> ever vigilant, i see :D
[18:03] <Kilos> how much studying did you do today
[18:03] <not_found> I waved twice if I am not mistaken... must have been when it was quiet... then got busy :p
[18:03] <Cantide> Kilos, not much, i'm afraid
[18:03] <not_found> sorry uncle Kilos 
[18:04] <Cantide> Mondays are tough at work - double balancing ._.
[18:04] <Kilos> np not_found 
[18:04] <Kilos> only mondays?
[18:05] <Cantide> only mondays are double :p
[18:05] <Cantide> other days are much better
[18:05] <Cantide> how was your day?
[18:05] <Kilos> ah
[18:05] <Kilos> good ty, busy looking after sheep and cooking
[18:05] <Cantide> haha
[18:06] <Cantide> sounds interesting :p
[18:06] <Kilos> hehe
[18:06] <Kilos> cooking is a pain you have to go stir every 10 mins so food dont burn
[18:07] <Cantide> has anyone tried those web apps in 12.04 yet?
[18:07] <Cantide> oh yeah :p i forgot about that
[18:07] <Cantide> been a looooooong time since i cooked -.-
[18:07] <Kilos> lol
[18:08] <Kilos> i been cooking daily for 2 months now
[18:09] <Cantide> chef mode :p
[18:09] <Kilos> lol yeah
[18:09] <Cantide> i enjoy cooking
[18:09] <Cantide> just no time for it now -.-
[18:09] <Kilos> me too
[18:09] <Cantide> work, study, sleep
[18:09] <Kilos> but takes time away from pc
[18:09] <Cantide> with the odd bit of cycling and gym thrown in
[18:09] <Cantide> haha
[18:10] <Cantide> more time at pc == better
[18:10] <Cantide> therefore cooking is evil
[18:10] <Kilos> one of you guys must try tinycorelinux
[18:11]  * Cantide looks it up
[18:11] <Cantide> is it like puppy or damn small?
[18:11] <Kilos> no
[18:11] <Kilos> tinycore
[18:12] <Kilos> if you have an eth0 connection your smiling
[18:12] <Kilos> but sooo different from ubuntu
[18:13] <Cantide> oh, interesting distro 'o'
[18:13] <Cantide> if i had a need for it, it would be awesome
[18:14] <Kilos> its great for old small pcs
[18:14] <Kilos> no 700 meg install
[18:14] <magespawn> Back, family crisis, fish two's guppie has died.
[18:15] <Kilos> oh my thats sad
[18:15] <Kilos> flush it
[18:15] <Kilos> buy new one tomorrow
[18:15] <magespawn> Not in hluhluwe.
[18:15] <Kilos> aw
[18:16] <Kilos> weekend trip to empangeni coming up
[18:16] <magespawn> Besides this one has been living in a pyrex bowl for the last 3 months.
[18:16] <Kilos> lol
[18:17] <magespawn> Got carried home in the palm of her hand.
[18:17] <Kilos> i used to spend hours in front of my fishtank'
[18:18] <Kilos> love the algae eaters they like creepy crawleys
[18:18] <magespawn> Mmm indeed, bit much for a 6 year old though.
[18:19] <Kilos> thats the prob with pets
[18:19] <Kilos> they die too soon
[18:19] <Kilos> even dogs
[18:23] <magespawn> Jack Russells are good, live a long time, if they are not killed by snakes.
[18:23] <magespawn> Brb fish 1
[18:26] <Banlam> get a tortoise
[18:26] <Kilos> ya they live long
[18:26] <Kilos> dogs like 14 max
[18:27] <Banlam> our lab is 10 atm
[18:27] <Banlam> last two we had lived to about 12 and 14 i think
[18:28] <Kilos> x7 mkaes old
[18:28] <Kilos> makes
[18:28] <Kilos> like 98 of our years
[18:29] <Kilos> hi Banlam 
[18:29] <Banlam> hey Kilos :)
[18:30] <Banlam> anyone played with mikrotiks and routerOS before?
[18:31] <magespawn> Hey back.
[18:32] <magespawn> Hi Banlam 
[18:32] <Banlam> good evening
[18:33] <magespawn> I have seen it before, but never worked with it.
[18:34] <Cantide> http://www.gizmag.com/sapphire-disk-lasts-10-millions-years/23357/ <- this would make a good pet '-'
[18:36] <Banlam> http://animalslickingwindows.tumblr.com/
[18:36] <Banlam> lol
[18:37] <Kilos> magespawn, is the only diffs tween desktop and server editions the gui?
[18:38] <magespawn> Pretty much
[18:38] <Kilos> or has the server got other stuff too
[18:38] <superfly> Hello Kilos, magespawn, etc.
[18:38] <Maaz> superfly: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell superfly Thinking of you and hope all is good with baby and mommy" 11 hours, 17 minutes and 57 seconds ago
[18:39] <magespawn> Not that I know 
[18:39] <Kilos> hi there superfly all good there?
[18:40] <Kilos> hows mrs_fly ?
[18:40] <superfly> Piekfyn oom Kilos
[18:40] <Kilos> yay you didnt come keep us informed
[18:40] <Kilos> grrr
[18:40] <superfly> She's doing well, managed to convince the doc to let her go home a day early.
[18:40] <Kilos> lol
[18:40] <magespawn> Hi superfly, and the larvae?
[18:41] <superfly> Kilos: I was hardly on my computer
[18:41] <Kilos> we noticed but fb got informed
[18:41] <Kilos> grrr
[18:42] <Kilos> but we forgive you
[18:42] <Kilos> :-)>
[18:42] <superfly> Kilos: yeah, cause a large number of people who want to know about it are on Facebook
[18:43] <Kilos> gustav told us
[18:43] <Kilos> so we knew
[18:43] <superfly> magespawn: great.
[18:43] <superfly> noisy sleeper
[18:43] <Kilos> lol
[18:44] <magespawn> Awesome stuff.
[18:45] <magespawn> You are about to learn time management to the extreme
[18:45] <Kilos> ha ha ha
[18:45] <Kilos> irc really gonna suffer
[18:45] <superfly> magespawn: more like toddler herding, which is only slightly less difficult than cat herding
[18:46] <Cantide> catnip needed
[18:46] <superfly> Cantide: doesn't work on 3 year olds
[18:46] <Kilos> lol
[18:46] <Cantide> you haven't used enough then >_>
[18:46] <Cantide> *cough*
[18:47] <magespawn> Wait till they are both moving around.
[18:47] <Cantide> my niece is difficult to handle, and she's only 14 months .-.
[18:47] <superfly> Cantide: just wait till she's 2 and a half.
[18:47] <Kilos> superfly, we are all very happy for you and mrs_fly 
[18:47] <Cantide> superfly, I will hopefully be faaaar away by then :D
[18:48] <superfly> thanks Kilos
[18:48] <Kilos> i can go sleep now
[18:48] <Kilos> night guys , sleep tight
[18:49] <superfly> Night old man
[18:49] <Kilos> haha cheeky
[18:49] <Cantide> night Kilos ^^
[18:50] <magespawn> Kids are great for a lot of things, grey hairs being one of them.
[18:51] <superfly> magespawn: hopefully not too soon!
[18:57] <magespawn> My oldest is 10 and I feel like I am just now geeting used to it all, and having a life again.
[18:59] <magespawn> Getting my feet on the ground.
[19:00] <superfly> magespawn: how young is your youngest
[19:01] <magespawn> 6
[19:01] <superfly> ah
[19:04] <charl> nn all
[19:14] <magespawn> I am also out of here, night all.
[19:40]  * not_found now has a very nice keyboard for android :)
[19:40] <not_found> even has tab :p
[19:46] <inetpro> Good morning 
[19:57] <inetpro> not found: what keyboard is that? 
[19:58] <inetpro> Eish! 
[19:59] <inetpro> not_found ^^
[20:00]  * inetpro on the mobile
[20:01] <inetpro> just got upgrade to jelly bean 
[20:01] <inetpro> and already there's one thing I hate about it 
[20:02] <not_found> inetpro, swiftkeyboard 3
[20:02] <inetpro> can no longer use the search key for tab completion 
[20:03] <not_found> it doesn't have it on the main page however which is a pita...
[20:03] <not_found> takes 3 keys to do it...
[20:04] <inetpro> you also have SwiftKey 3?
[20:04] <not_found> sorry meant swiftkey 3
[20:05]  * not_found fails at android
[20:05] <not_found> I almost went and installed CyanogenMod on my phone
[20:05] <inetpro> Hmm.. where do you find tab? 
[20:05] <not_found> one sec
[20:05] <not_found> press 123
[20:05] <not_found> then the little one with { and something else
[20:05] <not_found> then you have tab, up and down left right and many odd keys
[20:06] <inetpro> no
[20:06] <inetpro> Hmm.... 
[20:07] <inetpro> doesn't work for tab complete 
[20:07] <inetpro> but yes I see it 
[20:08] <not_found> Oh crap... I haven't tested it for tab-copmplete yet... that is going to suck big time (I read people moaning that the tab button didn't take them to new input fields but just tabbed the text block they where in...)
[20:08] <not_found> typical... :(
[20:08]  * not_found has to go buy the wife some cheese cake now (it is midnight) (and she isn't even pregnant) 
[20:08] <not_found> bbl
[20:08] <inetpro> np 
[20:09] <inetpro> good night 
[20:09]  * inetpro gonna sleep now anyway
[20:37] <not_found> back...
[20:37]  * not_found is sad about paying for a keyboard that doesn't do what is needed :'(