[00:24] <calamari> Corvus: when it crashes, you'll then want to issue the gdb command: bt
[00:26] <calamari> Corvus: and pastebin the results
[00:26] <Corvus> Hm. "gdb" started this fancy text, which I understand nothing of. Now the command line starts out as "(gdb)". "run vlc" tells me I need to specify an executable file.
[00:26] <calamari> chiminuhupua just privmsged me and tried to initiate a dcc chat
[00:26] <calamari> ah spam & leave I see lol
[00:26] <calamari> Corvus: gdb vlc
[00:26] <calamari> Corvus: then at gdb prompt: run
[00:26] <Daghdha> Hello, i have some performance issue with ubuntu deleting files. I read xfs4 will help. Is that correct?
[00:26] <Daghdha> And can i convert mycurrent disk withing ubuntu? It's not the OS disk.
[00:26] <Moogs> anyone?
[00:26] <Corvus> Ah, that worked. Thanks.
[00:26] <Corvus> Now I'll just wait for that crash, I suppose...
[00:27] <ResQue> Daghdha: you could use gparted
[00:27] <Daghdha> I use that for backups i think.
[00:28] <ResQue> Daghdha: if you mean change the format of the from say NTFS to EXT3 file format
[00:28] <Daghdha> I have it on a boot DVD. Isit save to convert?
[00:28] <Daghdha> from ext3 to ext4
[00:28] <Moogs> anyone know how to optimize my intel graphics on ubuntu?
[00:28] <ResQue> Daghdha: you will lose the data on the disk, and i done think you use gparted to backup anything
[00:28] <Daghdha> Oh
[00:29] <gstnet> hey, i need some help.. this might not be the most appropriate channel but i am panicking and this one was first one in my list in konversation
[00:29] <Corvus> calamari: Now it froze - I'm presuming this is the point. You said I need another command now?
[00:30] <gstnet> i am getting 50,000 DNS querries per minute to my named server
[00:30] <calamari> Corvus: if you're at the gdb prompt again, enter: bt
[00:30] <gstnet> and querries seem to be asking for only 2 domains.. ripe.net ad gd21,net
[00:31] <gstnet> this is an example query from the log
[00:31] <gstnet> Jul 22 19:17:22.547 info: client 74.54.42.194#53: query: ripe.net IN ANY
[00:31] <gstnet> as there some networking guru who can help me explain this ?
[00:31] <Daghdha> ResQue: Can you confirm deletion of large files in ext4 is faster than in ext3?
[00:31] <Corvus> calamari: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1105687/ <-- This is the information gained.
[00:34] <ResQue> reisi: No i can not
[00:34] <ResQue> Daghdha: no i can not
[00:35] <Daghdha> i see.. i'll take that as a yes then.
[00:35] <Dr_willis> wikipedia page about ext4 may have some comparisons.
[00:35]  * Daghdha proceeeds to move disk into 20th century
[00:37] <Moogs> anyone use compizconfig settings manager
[00:38] <Stealthy> Hey there. I was installing ubuntu on my home box. I was repartitioning one drive. Then the instalation window became fuzzy, but the computer is not frozen, since i can still turn on and off caps lock. Is there any key combintion that can bring back the installation window? I'm installing ubuntustudio 12.4, by the way...
[00:40] <Corvus> calamari: Any news?
[00:40] <VirtualBlackness> Stealthy: try ctrl alt f2 then ctrl alt f7
[00:41] <calamari> Corvus: hold on a min, looking to something
[00:41] <VirtualBlackness> Moogs: It is my understanding the compiz settings manager breaks, or can break unity.
[00:41] <Moogs> anyone use compkiz?
[00:41] <arielsanflo> hello
[00:41] <Corvus> All right.
[00:41] <arielsanflo> help
[00:41] <VirtualBlackness> Moogs: unity 3d = compiz
[00:41] <Fyodorovna> Moogs, many do what is the question about it
[00:41] <Stealthy> thanks virtualblackness!
[00:41] <Moogs> i want to know the best options to select to optimize my laptop (the compizconfig settings manager)
[00:42] <Fyodorovna> Moogs, lots of info on the web for setups with the warnings needed have you lookedd?
[00:42] <Fyodorovna> looked*
[00:42] <calamari> Corvus: I'm wondering if you could also pastebin this one: backtrace full
[00:42] <Moogs> Fyodorovna: i cannot find anything
[00:42] <arielsanflo> as placing juno eclipse 4.2 in Spanish
[00:42] <Moogs> Fyodorovna: lol.
[00:43] <Corvus> So just "backtrace full"?
[00:43] <Stealthy> virtualblackness, it gives me a terminal and then the same "frozen install window" I had earlier. Is there any way I can know if the partioning is over yet? If it' s over yet I guess I can just turn off my computer and start the installation all over again without loosing any data...
[00:43] <L3top> Stealthy: I would exercize rule #1... especially when partitioning. Patience.
[00:44] <Stealthy> thanks l3top. So I guees I better wait, even for a couple hours, right?
[00:44] <Moogs> Fyodorovna: got any ideas? :)
[00:44] <L3top> How big is the drive Stealthy?
[00:44] <cnnx> i did apt-get install gnome how do i switch it when i reboot?
[00:44] <cnnx> *to it
[00:45] <Stealthy> 80 GBs L3top
[00:45] <Corvus> calamari: "backtrace full" provided exactly the same, but with "No symbol table info available." after each line.
[00:45] <L3top> I wouldn't wait anywhere near an hour Stealthy.
[00:45] <calamari> Corvus: ah
[00:45] <Fyodorovna> Moogs, look up cube and ubuntu, compiz is only slightly changed in the last 2or 3 releases.
[00:46] <L3top> Stealthy: if it does not resolve itself in 30 minutes I would go ahead...
[00:46] <Stealthy> thanks a lot l3top, I will follow your advice!
[00:46] <Dr_willis> let the cube slide into obscurity.. death to the cube. :)
[00:46] <Dr_willis> cnnx,  the login screen has a menu to select differnt desktop sessions.
[00:46] <Corvus> Don't be such a square. Be a tesseract, much more fun.
[00:47] <Moogs> Fyodorovna: what does kde compatilibyt o... it makes it faster ??
[00:47]  * L3top had a contract with one of them tesseracts once... them fellers taste like corn.
[00:47] <Fyodorovna> Moogs, I never used kde, not sure compiz is a easy use there.
[00:48] <L3top> Moogs: I am on KDE. I will install it now and tell you.
[00:48] <calamari> Corvus: does this give anything interesting? thread apply all backtrace
[00:51] <Corvus> calamari: Interesting is an understatement, even though I don't understand any of it. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1105705/
[00:55] <arielsanflo> hello
[00:55] <arielsanflo> help
[00:55] <arielsanflo> as placing juno eclipse 4.2 in Spanish
[00:56] <L3top> !es | arielsanflo perhaps you will get better help here.
[01:00] <arielsanflo> canal ubuntu 12.10
[01:04] <Krenair> I'm having trouble getting any input from my USB VoIP Cyberphone 615 handset's mic
[01:05] <Krenair> Ubuntu seems to recognise it
[01:05] <Krenair> But there just doesn't seem to be any input coming from the device
[01:05] <Krenair> It works on Windows 7 so the actual hardware is fine
[01:06] <calamari> Corvus: I'm not really finding anything relevant.. you can try opening a new bug report and attaching the console and gdb outputs
[01:06] <Corvus> Okay, I'll do that. Thanks.
[01:06] <calamari> Corvus: my best guess is that the file is corrupt.. but of course that shouldn't cause vlc to crash
[01:07] <calamari> Corvus: you can always try playing it with another program, like mplayer.. it might glitch or fail in the same spot tho
[01:07] <Corvus> Well, Banshee doesn't work at all. I'll poke around a bit, see what I find.
[01:07] <calamari> mplayer plays practically everything
[01:09] <SkippersBoss> !pulseaudio, krenair
[01:09] <SkippersBoss> !pulse, krenair
[01:10] <Krenair> I am using pulseaudio, yes SkippersBoss
[01:11] <SkippersBoss> krenair, does it function in pavu control
[01:11] <SkippersBoss> krenair, whathappens if you disable pulse
[01:11] <Krenair> Presumably I won't be able to hear any music anymore
[01:12] <SkippersBoss> Alsa takes over
[01:12] <SkippersBoss> What i mean is multiple person have independently found out that pulse sometimes doesnot work nice with recording
[01:13] <dellph> hello guys
[01:13] <dellph> :)
[01:13] <Guest41666> The milks gone bad
[01:13] <Krenair> Okay, install pavucontrol.
[01:13] <Krenair> installed*
[01:13] <SkippersBoss> create a file client.conf in ~/.pulse and put in the line autospawn=0
[01:13] <Corvus> I found something - the problem seems to be in the file. A playlist file (m3u, I believe) to be exact. Any known problems with those?
[01:14] <Krenair> It doesn't seem to even know about my USB mic
[01:14] <Krenair> Oh wait no, ignore the above.
[01:14] <SkippersBoss> restart your machine and alsa should be back in control
[01:14] <SkippersBoss> you might need to install alsamixer
[01:16] <ardian> any suggestions on how to get a laptop cooler, how do I stop overheating
[01:17] <Gnea> ardian: turn it off, let it sleep, get a thing to set it on that has fans, run it next to the exhaust of an ac-unit...
[01:18] <ardian> Gnea, that's not a good solution
[01:18] <ardian> 53 C is my laptop temp
[01:18] <Gnea> adjtimex: I just gave 4, beggars can't always be choosers
[01:22] <xchat> anyone help me please
[01:22] <Gnea> !anyone | xchat
[01:22] <xchat> my question mark dont work
[01:23] <xchat> my question mark dont work
[01:27] <L3top> Fyodorovna: compiz... NOT easy use in kde on precise. Confirmed. Was a bit nightmarish actually.
[01:27] <Fyodorovna> L3top, I wondered, what is the DE manager in kde?
[01:28] <mao> I run the command "echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches" to free cache manually,but how can I reset /proc/sys/vm/drop_cache to 0
[01:29] <escott> mao, echo 0
[01:29] <mao> escott: echo 0 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
[01:29] <mao> escott: bash: echo: write error: Invalid argument
[01:29] <escott> mao, i dont know what those parameters do. or what is valid for that value
[01:30] <L3top> I am not sure I can answer that Fyodorovna...
[01:31] <mao> escott: the default value of /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches is 0
[01:31] <escott> mao, but what does 0 mean?
[01:31] <Fyodorovna> L3top, hehe I have never used kde for any length of time, seems nice just never used it.
[01:32] <mao> escott: I don't know,you can see the value in you linux box
[01:33] <user567> #android
[01:35] <escott> mao, so why is it so important to put the value back to 0?
[01:37] <L3top> mao: are you root?
[01:37] <mao> escott: well...I just wonder why I can't put the value back to zero...
[01:37] <mao> L3top: yes,I switch to root
[01:37] <escott> mao, if it doesn't have a meaning...
[01:38] <escott> mao, based on what the values 1-3 do this looks to be an event oriented interface not a value oriented interface
[01:38] <Gnea> hm, wondering why X would suddenly just stop and boot me back to a gdm login...
[01:38] <escott> Gnea, gnome-session crashed
[01:39] <Gnea> escott: thing is, I'm not running gnome
[01:39] <Gnea> but, I will look into it
[01:39] <escott> Gnea, well whatever you are using as a session manager crashed (thats the usual cause) alternately X crashed
[01:40] <Gnea> escott:  8932 ?        Sl     0:00      \_ /usr/lib/gdm/gdm-session-worker
[01:40] <Gnea> dbus also seems to have a problem running on this system
[01:42] <mao> escott: Do you mean that what the value of /proc/sys/vm/drop_cache is meanless, only whe I change the value (or just echo) it works ?
[01:42] <L3top> mao, escott  I believe that null is a default value, for instance at boot, and setting 1, 2 or 3 frees pagecache, dentries and inodes in various combinations. I do not believe you can "set" 0, only the operations are setable. it looks like.
[01:42] <escott> mao, yes.
[01:45] <L3top> mao: out of curiosity... why are you fooling around in there?
[01:48] <mao> L3top: I was confused by "the value", I think "the value" has impact on the performance of system...
[01:49] <L3top> it is an operation more than a set value it would appear. You set it, it does its non-destructive flush. then it does nothing until set again. What is yours set to atm?
[01:51] <L3top> http://www.linuxinsight.com/proc_sys_vm_drop_caches.html  mao
[01:53] <mao> L3top: Just like escott said, it is an event oriented interface, not a value oriented interface...this is the first time i heared this
[01:53] <mao> L3top: thank you, now i understand it
[01:54] <L3top> note "As this is a non-destructive operation, and dirty objects are not freeable, the user should run "sync" first in order to make sure all cached objects are freed."
[01:57]  * L3top didn't see that explanation from escott
[01:57] <rocky> hello
[01:57] <rocky> guys
[01:57] <escott> L3top, no problem. i think we all realized it at the same time
[01:58] <rocky> i have a problem in my ubuntu 12.04, suspend mode doesn't works fine
[01:59] <rocky> when i suspend, then login back, i cannot click inside password window
[01:59] <mao> L3top: escott: Thank you all :)
[01:59] <rocky> then i have to force shutdown and boot again
[01:59] <escott> rocky, otherwise it comes back?
[01:59] <L3top> rocky: does your mouse work? and have you tried the tab key?
[01:59] <rocky> no
[01:59]  * L3top means can you see the cursor move
[02:00] <rocky> no i cannot see cursor move
[02:00] <rocky> when i press cntrl shift f1
[02:00] <rocky> i see continous exceptions flowing
[02:00] <rocky> sorry ctrl alt f1
[02:00] <smithw> Is it usual for a wireless card to experience a severely reduced working range when on Linux than when on Windows? (same computer and same card, Realtek RTL8723AE, using the driver from this thread: http://askubuntu.com/a/165002/64784) Are there settings I can chance to correct this, or should I just wait for a driver update?
[02:01] <escott> rocky, exceptions from what?
[02:02] <rocky> i have to repeat the operations
[02:02] <rocky> and then come back
[02:03] <violinappren> rocky: what is the exact error message you see?
[02:03] <rocky> i am back
[02:03] <rocky> i retried the same things
[02:03] <rocky> but this time suspend worked beautifully
[02:04] <rocky> i don't know what happened it started working in 2nd attempt
[02:04] <escott> rocky, thats us. we are that good
[02:04] <rocky> unless it is related to no. of applications that are opened when i suspend
[02:05] <L3top> smithw: did you compile this from source... and if so can you look at that source for something real quick?
[02:05] <escott> rocky, how is the mouse connected? usb?
[02:05] <smithw> L3top, yes, and sure, what is it?
[02:05] <rocky> escott, it is inbuilt laptop mouse
[02:06] <L3top> in base.c  can you grep HW_BEACON_FILTER
[02:06] <rocky> escott, is hibernate and suspend same in the laptop?
[02:07] <rocky> escott, i meant  same in Ubuntu 12.04
[02:07] <rocky> in my case hibernate is disabled
[02:07] <smithw> L3top, line 320, it's setting a flags parameter in a pointer to a struct ieee80211_hw
[02:08] <escott> rocky, no. hibernate writes to disk and turns off the computer entirely. suspend shifts everything to ram and puts halts the cpu
[02:08] <smithw> L3top, it's a long OR spanning multiple lines
[02:08] <smithw> that's the only ocurrence on the file
[02:08] <rocky> escott, got you
[02:08] <rocky> escott, do you know hibernate is disabled in my Ubuntu 12.04
[02:08] <rocky> escott, do you know why hibernate is disabled in my Ubuntu 12.04
[02:09] <ResQue> could anyone recomend a good opensource replacement for flash player, i really only use the flash player to watch youtube videos or other internet embeded videos
[02:10] <escott> rocky, i never use hibernate so im not sure. possibilities might be encrypted home, or inadequate swap?
[02:10] <Areckx> Having random problems with SSH. It would work SSHing to my iPhone until recently, nothing I have done can explain this, and the only thing I can think of is an update that may conflict? How do I fix this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1105746/
[02:11] <L3top> This has to do with the power modulation... I wondered if it was related due to some folks comments hacking around it for 3.4 kernel... I believe that until they are proud enough to put it on their website... that is going to be your best bet.
[02:11] <L3top> smithw: ^
[02:11] <Areckx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1105751/
[02:12] <L3top> ResQue: you might try lightspark
[02:12] <smithw> L3top, wait, power modulation was added or correct in the 3.4 kernel?
[02:12] <Spaceghostc2c> Hi. Does Ubuntu server 12.04 come with ssh-agent set up and ready to go?
[02:13] <smithw> *corrected
[02:13] <L3top> line 320 was hashed out to get it to work in 3.4 smithw
[02:13] <rocky> escott, sorry i missed your last response, could send again, it went up
[02:13] <escott> Areckx, why would you sudo ssh? (only reason i can think of is that you are using auth_keys and the private key is in /root/.ssh
[02:13] <escott> rocky, i never use hibernate so im not sure. possibilities might be encrypted home, or inadequate swap?
[02:14] <Areckx> escott::  I don't know, usually it ensures it works
[02:14] <smithw> L3top, oh, I see. Should I try the same on 3.2 and see if it improves the working range? Or might break something beyond fixing?
[02:14] <rocky> escott, i don't have swap disj
[02:14] <rocky> escott, i don't have swap disk
[02:14] <rocky> escott, this may explain it why hibernate is disabled
[02:14] <Spaceghostc2c> I sort of figured that ssh-agent would already be set up on a default installation. I mostly use it for git and ssh while developing.
[02:14] <creese> I'm installing linux on a Macbook with a Broadcomm BCM 4322 (432b) wireless. I extracted the firmware for the b43 module, but still getting 'file not found' errors. Any ideas?
[02:15] <L3top> smithw: I do not expect it would do any damage... I would do it... dont know if it will get better or worse :)
[02:15] <escott> rocky, thats why
[02:15] <Areckx> escott::  either way, I am unable to browse my iphone with usb, for some reason, it worked when I first installed 10.04 but then stopped working for some reason
[02:15] <escott> rocky, there is nowhere to put your ram on disk. so it cant hibernate
[02:15] <Areckx> escott::  so I used SSH and it worked without any problems until about a week ago
[02:15] <rocky> escott, thanks you are genius
[02:16] <smithw> L3top, ok, I'll comment it out and recompile, then. If it gets worse, I'll just uncomment it compile it again. Thanks for your time :)
[02:16] <L3top> !bcm43xx | did you follow this creese?
[02:16] <escott> Areckx, sudo ssh is a weird thing to do, because you (usually) care about the permissions on the remote side not on the local side. why do you care that root@localhost is sending commands to the other machine vs username@localhost. what matters is if root@remotehost is executing the commands or not
[02:16] <ring1> ResQue, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash/#Free_Software_alternatives_to_Adobe.27s_Flash_Player for youtube, you could try https://www.youtube.com/html5
[02:19] <creese> ubottu: I'm having trouble at the modprobe step. will try those suggestions
[02:19] <sourlime> I'm on http://sourceforge.net/projects/xampp/files/XAMPP%20Linux/1.8.0/. What is the difference between xampp-linux-devel-1.8.0.tar.gz	(38.6 MB) and xampp-linux-1.8.0.tar.gz (84.7 MB) ?
[02:20] <creese> ha!
[02:20] <trism> !xampp | sourlime
[02:20] <sourlime> trism: is lamp better than xampp?
[02:21] <sourlime> what's the difference?
[02:21] <sourlime> i'm confused, trism
[02:21] <Spaceghostc2c> sourlime: Six keystrokes.
[02:21] <Spaceghostc2c> One's a development version.
[02:21] <ResQue> ring1: thanks, and yes i am already on the html5 beta nice call there
[02:22] <sourlime> Spaceghostc2c: which is the development version+?
[02:22] <Spaceghostc2c> Guess.
[02:22] <Areckx> escott::  well I am just wanting to see the files on my  jailbroken iphone, it worked flawlessly until about a week ago
[02:22] <ring1> ResQue, you're welcome. i think html5 works fine as of now
[02:22] <sourlime> trism, Spaceghostc2c i just need to test out our wordpress website locally before uploading to the interente
[02:22] <Areckx> escott::  also I just installed libimobiledevice-1.0.7
[02:24] <trism> sourlime: you are free to use xampp if you prefer, but we do not support it here, all the programs (apache, mysql, php, etc) are already in the repository and supported (and will get security updates)
[02:24] <escott> Areckx, well you can't ping it. so do you have the right ip?
[02:24] <Areckx> escott::  yes, it hasn't changed at all and I have double checked 4 times
[02:25] <Areckx> escott::  also how come I can't browse the device with USB anymore? I have ifuse installed and libimobiledevice
[02:25] <Areckx> escott::  10.04 is supposed to support it out of the box, it did for awhile, but after installing packages it stopped working
[02:28] <escott> Areckx, i don't really know. all i know about iProducts is that iDontBuyThem
[02:28] <crashover> hola
[02:29] <rocky> escott, i lost my gnome classic menu at the top pf page, do you know how to bring it back
[02:31] <sourlime> trism: i went to the help.ubuntu page you linked to and installed lamp. now how can i see my wordpress site locally?
[02:31] <escott> rocky, lost it during suspend?
[02:31] <rocky> escott, no no when i customized my Unity interface at login level
[02:31] <rocky> escott, suspend problem is solved all clear
[02:32] <escott> rocky, "login level"? what does that mean? you manipulated things on the tty?
[02:32] <creese> it still won't create my wlan0
[02:33] <rocky> escott, it means when i start my laptop, it asks me to enter password, this is the place
[02:34] <trism> sourlime: we have an older version of wordpress in the repos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WordPress or you can use the install guide on wordpress.com for the latest version
[02:34] <Areckx> escott::  lol good one, but why so much hate for iDevice?
[02:34] <escott> rocky, ok so at the login screen you selected a different session type
[02:34] <escott> Areckx, its the antithesis of free software
[02:34] <rocky> escott, yess
[02:34] <rocky> escott, i customized the session to use cario dock
[02:35] <Areckx> escott::  people seem to hate it, but I personally can't stand using android, and plus, I got my iPhone as a gift
[02:35] <Areckx> escott::  that's why you jailbreak and use cydia
[02:35] <escott> rocky, so what you are seeing is that other session type. what kind of session are you running now, and what kind of session do you want to be running :)
[02:35] <rocky> escott, somehow i deleted the gnome classic menu
[02:35] <trism> sourlime: http://codex.wordpress.org/Installing_WordPress
[02:35] <escott> !classic | rocky
[02:35] <rocky> escott, not sure what keys to press to bring it back
[02:35] <escott> rocky, thats an annoyingly unhelpful factoid these days
[02:35] <escott> !notunity
[02:36] <escott> rocky, ^^^ thats a bit more helpful listing some options
[02:37] <Spaceghostc2c> Why doesn't ubuntu server 12.04 have ssh-agent, keychain, or something comparable installed by default?
[02:37] <escott> rocky, but if you want to be using cairo and gnome-panel. i think all you need to do is install gnome-panel and add it to your cairo session
[02:37] <rocky> escott, gnome panel is already installed
[02:38] <escott> rocky, so try and run it from a terminal window "gnome-panel &"
[02:38] <rocky> escott, i used to have both gnome menu and cario dock in my desktop
[02:38] <rocky> escott, one day i right clicked on gnome menu and deleted it
[02:38] <escott> Spaceghostc2c, it doesnt? im surprised by that
[02:38] <rocky> escott, now don't know to bring it back
[02:39] <escott> rocky, i see. try just running gnome-panel then
[02:40] <rocky> escott, i ran gnome-panel from terminal
[02:40] <rocky> escott, it crashed and is currently preparing crash report
[02:40] <escott> rocky, then you might have to nuke some files in .config
[02:40] <cosmicfires> what's the best tv card or usb thing for ubuntu?
[02:41] <Areckx> sudo mkdir /mnt/iphone
[02:41] <Areckx> oops
[02:41] <FenrirReturns> I just installed the newest version of Ubuntu from the desktop ISO, and periodically in gnome something appears at the top allowing me to enter a command.  For the life of me I can't figure out how to trigger it, it seems random, and my google-fu yields nothing and alt-f2 doesn't do it like it did in older versions.  Any ideas?
[02:42] <Areckx> ifuse /mnt/iphone/
[02:42] <Areckx> bwah
[02:42] <rocky> escott, oh my gosh i see the gnome menu hanging in the middle of desktop
[02:42] <rocky> escott, very small in length
[02:42] <Spaceghostc2c> escott: I just decided to forward my ssh agent.
[02:42] <c2tarun> is thunderbird 14 no more supporting rss feeds?
[02:42] <rocky> escott, it is working now
[02:43] <rocky>  escott when i restart will it come back
[02:43] <rocky> escott, i have to add to startup applications
[02:43] <rocky> escott, i have to add to startup applications?
[02:44] <escott> rocky, maybe? gnome-session-properties
[02:45] <rocky>  escott, i don't see its name in startup applications, generally it helps by showing currently running applications
[02:48] <BentFranklin> Running Ubuntu Server 12.04 and getting Plymouth error messages.  Why does Plymouth run on server?
[02:50] <goddard> c2tarun: rss feeds are supported by a plugin isn
[02:50] <goddard> it
[02:51] <c2tarun> goddard: thanks :) I'll try and look how to install isn
[02:51] <Areckx> I am unable to connect to my iPhone through USB, what's wrong?
[02:53] <escott> BentFranklin, drink the koolaid. you have no choice, just drink it
[02:53] <Daghdha> Hi
[02:53] <Daghdha> I am trying to format a partition but it says is in use, how can i see what's using it?
[02:54] <escott> BentFranklin, you can try removing "quiet splash" from your /etc/default/grub boot options, but plymouth is always there
[02:54] <Daghdha> awwwwwwww
[02:54] <Daghdha> need to unmount as root
[02:55] <BentFranklin> escott:  yeah I looked at that file but there's nothing about splash in there
[02:55] <xu34> i'm trying to figure out the size of a disk that has no partition table; i think i can get it with the udevadm command and the USEC_INITIALIZED line although i have no idea how to calculate it.  does anybody have any idea. this is the size of one disk (i think):  E: USEC_INITIALIZED=5087245
[02:56] <escott> xu34, why not just use "sudo parted -l"?
[02:56] <c2tarun> goddard: I couldn't find isn addon on mozilla site, can you please tell me how to get it and install it to thunderbird
[02:57] <xu34> escott: i was and because there is no label it gives an error instead of the size
[03:01] <xu34> escott: solved it... little bit of extra work. have to suppress the error message and then my code works
[03:01] <CynepCupon> so…. i have a very serious question
[03:01] <CynepCupon> 12.04 iso
[03:01] <CynepCupon> why the **** won't the disc image mount?
[03:01] <CynepCupon> i've downoad ubuntu, ubuntu studio… 12.04 LTS
[03:01] <CynepCupon> they won't mount
[03:01] <CynepCupon> i can't burn the .iso file
[03:01] <syddraf> Have you md5'd them to check for integrity?
[03:02] <CynepCupon> i'm on OSX
[03:02] <Daghdha> i can't unmount a drive because it's in used, can i force it?
[03:02] <escott> CynepCupon, you don't mount it. you burn it directly
[03:02] <syddraf> I fail to see why that would prevent you from md5ing them
[03:02] <CynepCupon> yes but i can also mount them to check
[03:02] <escott> CynepCupon, OSX has a god complex, and things everything is for itself. so just save the iso and then burn it
[03:02] <CynepCupon> the rest of linux distros mounted fine
[03:03] <vook> sounds corrupt if it can't be burned, try 'burn' (the software)
[03:03] <CynepCupon> but would the website be linking to corrupt iso fileS?
[03:03] <escott> Daghdha, not really. there is a lazy unmount, but it stays mounted until whoever is in it leaves. you can use "lsof" to find who has it open
[03:03] <CynepCupon> the torrent, the direct download…. and the studio version
[03:04] <vook> no, if its corrupt it may have happened during download.
[03:04] <Daghdha> i grepped lsof output on .mnt/Downloads and saw nothing
[03:04] <Daghdha> i grepped lsof output on /mnt/Downloads and saw nothing
[03:04] <vook> avoid the torrent if possible.
[03:04] <CynepCupon> ok…. another go at the download
[03:04] <CynepCupon> i hate this part
[03:04] <L3top> xu34: can you explain better, because I don't think it is correct.
[03:05] <escott> vook, why would one avoid a torrent if they were worried about corruption... seems the opposite would make more sense
[03:05] <CynepCupon> but not as bad as the openSUSE download, 4.6 gigs
[03:05] <Klikini> Torrent files can contain viruses and may be corrupted.
[03:05] <CynepCupon> well i'm on OSX and leaving it
[03:05] <CynepCupon> going to linux on a lenovo
[03:05] <vook> CynepCupon: if you can make use of wget, do so.
[03:06] <CynepCupon> what is wget
[03:06] <escott> what is this? lie about torrents day?
[03:06] <vook> no, torrents are a mess.
[03:06] <vook> no lies.
[03:06] <Daghdha> torrents can be a mess, theoretically.
[03:06] <CynepCupon> well torrents download from multiple sources
[03:07] <escott> vook, and we shouldn't trust git either?
[03:07] <vook> CynepCupon: wget is a terminal based download tool, just search for wget osx
[03:07] <CynepCupon> apple products are for people who have too much money, and need to waste some.
[03:08] <xu34> L3top   sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc 2>/dev/null | grep /dev | grep bytes | cut -d " " -f 3-4   outputs the size of the disk (not the partition) and this disk might be without a partition table (dd if=/dev/zeero of=/dev/sdc bs=1M count=1 for instance)
[03:08] <vook> escott: who said anything about git?
[03:08] <CynepCupon> think Lenovo will run ubuntu ok?
[03:08] <Daghdha> wow is like 40 processes keeping my drive busy
[03:09] <xu34> L3top: if i don't suppress error output then i can't cut out the numbers...
[03:09] <CynepCupon> i'm more excited about this Lenovo/Linux combination gift to myself, more excited than a teenage girl at a justin beiber concert!!!!
[03:09] <escott> vook, both are based on sha1 hash chains.
[03:09] <bazhang> !ot | CynepCupon
[03:09] <vook> escott: i don't really care to debate in irc, its off topic.
[03:09] <xu34> L3top: my output for instance is "4004 MB,"  I actually don't like the comma in that output although have no idea how to remove... cut doesn't seem to work in reverse though
[03:09] <L3top> xu34: yes... I was referring to the udevadm info.
[03:10] <L3top> xu34: THAT is not what I thought you thought it was
[03:10] <CynepCupon> understood.
[03:10] <CynepCupon> thank you.
[03:10] <xu34> L3top: ok, i won't use the udevadm info for figuring out the size. i don't know if that output in udevadm was size related. i think not now. i'm still using the command to figure out if the disk is an ata disk or a usb mass storage device
[03:11] <CynepCupon> any advice for choosing the file system?
[03:11] <CynepCupon> just regular everyday use + WINE gaming
[03:11] <escott> CynepCupon, ext4 is the recommended standard
[03:11] <CynepCupon> thank you
[03:13] <Daghdha> The output of my fudesr is: /dev/sda3:            1900  2366  2371  2391  2393  2457  2490  2739  2776  2781  2782  2785  2791  2792  2793  2797  2798  2801  2802  2806  2822  2825  2834  2838  2845  2855  2861  2881  2890  2894  2905  2913  2915  2917  2920  2921  2923  2957  2960  2963  3000  3013  3015  3017  3019  3042  3052  3054  3071  3073  3089  3097  3107  3114  3135  3171  3200  3217
[03:13] <Daghdha> 11510 19643 19712
[03:13] <Daghdha> can't realy do anything wit that can i?
[03:14] <escott> Daghdha, you can match those pids with stuff in ps aux. many are closely related so are probably children holding onto the same file handle as the parent or sharing a cwd
[03:14] <ariesam> What is the best brand for Ubuntu in Laptops. Dell, Toshiba, Sony, Acer.. ?
[03:16] <Daghdha> escott: One is 1000      2393  0.0  0.0 273436   756 ?        Sl   Jul14   0:00 /usr/lib/gvfs//gvfs-fuse-daemon -f /home/admin_eric/.gvfs
[03:16] <Daghdha> I don't see how it relates to that device. Is that program  using that device?
[03:17] <escott> Daghdha, sounds like you have it open in nautilus or something
[03:17] <pawan> hi
[03:17] <pawan> wired network
[03:17] <pawan> device not managed
[03:17] <memand> has any of you guys tried working  with nvidia before
[03:17] <memand> ?
[03:18] <Daghdha> i think i closed nautilus though
[03:18] <vook> !any
[03:18] <escott> Daghdha, i dont know the full situation of what you are doing here
[03:19] <Daghdha> I want to format it
[03:19] <escott> Daghdha, but what is on it now? how did you mount it to begin with?
[03:20] <memand> or do you have any good references for both unix (spesifically ubuntu on a boot usb) and BASIC
[03:20] <Daghdha> ext3, it's part of my system. But it has low performace with deleting big files and it was suggested i used ext4 instead
[03:20] <Daghdha> I deleted all files and folders on it.
[03:20] <escott> Daghdha, LOL
[03:20] <escott> Daghdha, you know you can go directly from ext3 to ext4 without reformatting
[03:21] <Daghdha> uhm
[03:21] <Daghdha> i do not
[03:21] <escott> Daghdha, and then all you would have had to do was copy the files to new folders to create the extents
[03:21] <Daghdha> ormove?
[03:21] <L3top> xu34: expr $(udevadm info -a -p $(udevadm info -q path -n /dev/sda) | grep size | sed 's/.*=//;s/"//g') \/ 2
[03:21] <escott> Daghdha, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-convert-ext3-to-ext4-file-system.html
[03:21] <glitsj16> pawan: http://askubuntu.com/questions/71159/network-manager-says-device-not-managed might be worth a try if you haven't already
[03:21] <Daghdha> ok, but i bet the same problem will pervent the exr3>4 conversion
[03:21] <escott> Daghdha, has to be a copy. move just moves the inode, you would need to explicitely create the copy
[03:23] <escott> Daghdha, not that it matters at this point but there really is only one "ext" filesystem. they can all be upwards converted to the next by enabling features (and sometimes even downwards converted, but that is not as well supported)
[03:24] <Daghdha> The in thing i always liked about lunix is that it does what you fkn tell it. Like format the root. And now i can't even dismount a disk forcefully. It's like windows al over again :(
[03:24] <memand> I have a very specific problem with my laptop and a usb boot drive I can explain further but it's a loooooong storry
[03:24] <Daghdha> escott: Thanks for the info, i will do that next time. Since i already cleared it i will just format it later when i am allowed by OCP
[03:25] <Daghdha> or was that MCP
[03:25] <escott> Daghdha, why no issue a lazy unmount and logout
[03:25] <Daghdha> i will.. remove mount from fstab and reboot
[03:25] <Daghdha> will that be ok?
[03:25] <escott> Daghdha, that works too
[03:25] <zoboom> Anyone here know much about the reasons that my Windows partition don't show up in GParted but they do in fdisk???
[03:26] <escott> zoboom, i can think of reasons for the reverse
[03:26] <L3top> xu34: thanks for making me explore that. We are mounting stuff briefly to get its size. I didn't think I would be able to get it with udevadm.
[03:26] <zoboom> escott: When trying to dual boot ubuntu and Windows 7 i don't get the option to "install alongside Windows...."
[03:26] <escott> zoboom, can you paste us the output of sudo parted -l and sudo fdisk -l
[03:27] <escott> zoboom, there could be something very very wrong with your partition tables. which would be very very very bad
[03:27] <zoboom> escott: sure, just give me a second I'm  on my netbook now and making a live usb as we speak for my desktop that I'm trying to install to.
[03:27] <zoboom> That's not too big of a deal it's a clean in stall of windows, everything has been backed up.
[03:29] <escott> zoboom, i doubt my fears are reasonable. win7 should notice this, but seeing what parted and fdisk think would explain a lot
[03:31] <xu34> L3top :) i think that actually works better / more reliably
[03:34] <Gnea> so glad ubuntu provides screen and do-release-upgrade...
[03:34] <L3top> xu34: if you are going to explore partitions change that grep size to grep 'ATTR{size}'
[03:35] <L3top> xu34: I realize that isnt the point... just saying if it is a catchall sizer... that will have to change otherwise it returns ATTR and ATTRS for the parent.
[03:38] <mason> i need help i cant see the windows drive on xubuntu
[03:38] <xu34> L3top: it's only to grab the size of the entire physical disk (/dev/sda /dev/sdb etc where sda and sdb might be usb or sata disks)
[03:40] <Hganavak> What's a collaborative note taking software available on linux?
[03:40] <mason> hee.p im trying to see the window drive with all windows stuff from ubuntu
[03:40] <escott> Hganavak, collaborative online note taking? or offline?
[03:41] <Gnea> Hganavak: nevernote
[03:41] <Hganavak> Online escott. Is there anyone other than Nevernote? Don't really wanna pay the $50US/year for other people to actually be able to edit the notes Gnea..
[03:43] <mason> HELLP
[03:43] <mason> LP
[03:43] <mason> EELE
[03:43] <mason> ELE
[03:43] <mason> LELEL3
[03:43] <FloodBot1> mason: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:45] <escott> Hganavak, Gnea suggested nevernote. i don't know what that is. but online collaborative editing... google.com/docs there are also plugins for emacs these days to do google docs (although they are a bit messy from what i could see)
[03:46] <Hganavak> escott: As I said Nevernote costs $50US/year for access to full features
[03:46] <Hganavak> Other than that, it's perfect......
[03:47] <escott> !info gdisk > zoboom2
[03:50] <delinquentme> is 7 zip the default compression tool for ubuntu?
[03:52] <escott> delinquentme, no
[03:52] <BentFranklin> gzip
[03:52] <delinquentme> derp
[03:52] <delinquentme> right!
[03:53] <Daghdha> Can ubuntu take screenshots?
[03:53] <hith> hi. could anyone please let me know how to install java?
[03:55] <cfhowlett> Daghdha: Accesssories/Screenshot so yes
[03:57] <joosengee> Hi,
[03:58] <joosengee> have someone get the file .ics into the email?
[03:58] <joosengee> I get and I use thunderbird.
[03:58] <joosengee> I can't open it.
[03:58] <joosengee> Someone can?
[04:01] <joosengee> someone help me please
[04:03] <hmf> heelo
[04:04] <hmf> does somebody know how to partition in ubuntu?
[04:04] <junglist> Hey everyone, I have about 150GB of music on my desktops harddrive, the desktop runs ubuntu 12.04. I have a brand new 15" macbook that I would like to copy all of that music to. What is going to be the fastest way to do this? Both computers have firewire and usb 3.0 but I am unsure of how to connect them, if I just a firewire cable into both is it as simple as dragging the folders to a mounted thumbdrive or something? The only article
[04:05] <junglist>  hmf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition
[04:05] <hmf> thx:)
[04:06] <tberman> Where is the right place to talk to someone about the unity-webapps-preview stuff?
[04:07] <tberman> Having some issues integrating it into my site (specifically the MediaPlayer stuff), looking to get some insights.
[04:10] <hmf> junglist: do you know if I can use Gparted in windows to resize a ubuntu root partition?
[04:10] <hmf> It says something about unmounting it first.
[04:11] <junglist>  hmf you can boot an ubuntu live cd and then use gparted to alter the windows partition.
[04:11] <junglist>  hmf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoResizeWindowsPartitions/
[04:13] <hmf> Junglist: I setup dualboot on my laptop but I allocated to much for the ubuntu root /
[04:14] <wally13377> I chose to install the 3rd party software when I was running through the kubuntu installation and I can't play dvd's. What else do I need, I tried a sudo apt-get install libdvdcss and it spurts out an error at me in the form of "E: Package 'libdvdcss' has no installation candidate"
[04:14] <hmf> so i was seeing if i could resize the / and reclaim it in /home
[04:15] <junglist>  hmf yes you can do that but i think the best way is to boot from live cd so that all of your drives and partitions are available and unmounted
[04:15] <hmf> oh okay I try that thx junglist
[04:16] <junglist>  hmf no problem
[04:16] <junglist>  hmf make sure you backup anything iimportant first! :)
[04:16] <junglist> to late, hope they backup
[04:17] <junglist> Hey everyone, I have about 150GB of music on my desktops harddrive, the desktop runs ubuntu 12.04. I have a brand new 15" macbook that I would like to copy all of that music to. What is going to be the fastest way to do this? Both computers have firewire and usb 3.0 but I am unsure of how to connect them, if I just a firewire cable into both is it as simple as dragging the folders to a mounted thumbdrive or something? The only article
[04:18] <Gnea> junglist: well you could use usb networking to copy across that, but ethernet would really just be the better way to go
[04:19] <Gnea> junglist: I would just setup samba on the desktop, share your music folder to the mac, have the mac connect via the Network on the sidepane
[04:20] <Gnea> junglist: as for the easiest way to transfer, just start it before bed, then walk away and it'll be done in the morning ;)
[04:21] <junglist> Gnea: Ok that sounds like what I need. will I need a crossover cable?
[04:21] <Gnea> junglist: probably, unless you have an ethernet switch on your wifi router
[04:21] <junglist> Cool. Thanks!
[04:22] <Gnea> np gl
[04:22]  * Gnea watches X crash yet again
[04:22] <Gnea> hopefully this upgrade to 11.10 will fix it...
[04:23] <joosengee> hi
[04:23] <joosengee> how's different with kernel 3.5 and 3.2?
[04:24] <wrapids> Where cn I get some help with WUBI?
[04:27] <Gnea> wrapids: just tell us what the problem is, someone will jump in and help if they know
[04:27] <Gnea> !wubi
[04:28] <wrapids> lso my 'eh' key is broken. :( so plese bre with me. I'm hving some grphics issues in tht it's displying very broken screen tht doesn't hve ny sort of informtion. Just lines nd crp. I hvnt found ny errors.
[04:30] <Daghdha_AFK> cool
[04:30] <Daghdha_AFK> ANd it still autostarts, thank GOD
[04:40] <kevin> hi all. i'm trying to set up ipv6 static network configuration. kinda looking at http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-ipv6-networking-configuration/ ...  but can my interface (eth0) have both static addresses for ipv4 /and/ ipv6? ie, can you have both "iface eth0 inet6 static" and "iface eth0 inet static" sections?
[04:43] <btral> hi. i want to config a dhcrelay
[04:43] <btral> please help me to start it?
[04:44] <kevin> hrmmm brb.
[04:44] <pepee> kevin, ask in ##networking
[04:44] <pepee> ugh
[04:54] <xurious> kevin: yes it can.
[04:55] <n8k99> xurious don't know if he's back yet
[04:55] <pepee> xurious, he left
[04:56] <xurious> no timestamps or login/outs = fail.
[05:00] <thevoid> hey guys, novice question here.   i have a bunch of drives mounted on boot via fstab entries.  it says root is the owner of the mounts,  and i have chmod 777 them since they are storage shares.  the problem i'm having is that i have a program that runs on boot as a user,  and the program wants to chmod a directory that it will create.  what is the best solution to give that program/user permissons
[05:00] <thevoid> to chmod?
[05:01] <hwkiller-netbook> why don't you change the effective uid and gid of the mount itself, so you don't have to chmod it every time?
[05:03] <yupidoo> Hola
[05:04] <pepee> hola yupidoo . este canal esta en ingles
[05:05] <thevoid> hwkiller no idea how to do that,  got a phrase i can search to do some reading?
[05:05] <yupidoo> gracias pepeee
[05:05] <pepee> !es | yupidoo
[05:06] <pepee> thevoid, read the fstab and mount manpages
[05:06] <thevoid> k thanks
[05:07] <pepee> thevoid, with / you can search for something. search for uid/gid in the mount manpage
[05:08] <yuskhanzab> hello
[05:09] <yuskhanzab> what is the best application to convert video .webm format?
[05:11] <royaloak> hi
[05:11] <hith> hi
[05:11] <royaloak> quick question...
[05:11] <hith> could someone let me know how to install java?
[05:11] <hith> seriously
[05:11] <royaloak> i'm trying to write a very simple bash script which executes this line "sudo squidGuard -C all"
[05:11] <hith> 12.04
[05:11] <royaloak> when i run the ./script.sh which has this 1 line of code in it, it seems to just hang and doesn't execute
[05:12] <hith> i've followed the instructions
[05:12] <hith> i dont know what the  heck is going on
[05:12] <royaloak> but if i run that same line of code from the command prompt it works fine, just doenst ilke being in a script
[05:12] <royaloak> what am i doing wrong?
[05:13] <hith> o/ hello!? anyone out there?!
[05:13] <hwkiller-netbook> yes, of course hith
[05:13] <hwkiller-netbook> what's the problem
[05:14] <hith> yes i just was wondering if there's a way to install java on 12.04
[05:14] <hith> i installed iced tea
[05:14] <hith> it doesnt work
[05:14] <royaloak> #!/bin/bash
[05:14] <royaloak> sudo squidGuard –C all
[05:14] <royaloak> so no1 knows why this bash script just hangs?
[05:14] <royaloak> but it works fine if i run that command from the command prompt
[05:14] <cheshair> Hi! I am running latest version of Firefox on my up-to-date Ubuntu 12.04. I am trying to reach http://wiasf.cupmet-fi.it/ASFWeb/WICUP/index.do and get a "Start: applet not initialized" error. As a consequence, I can't run the small Java applet
[05:15] <cheshair> any tips?
[05:16] <somethinginteres> what's the easiest way to convert a .img file to .iso?
[05:16] <thevoid> just rename
[05:16] <thevoid> they are the same format
[05:17] <MisterE2> hi guys, booted from live cd 12.04 and can't get sshd up
[05:17] <MisterE2> installed it via apt-get
[05:17] <MisterE2> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server start: Unknown job: ssh ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[05:18] <somethinginteres> thevoid: gave that a go before but file-roller didn't like it said it wasn't an ISO file
[05:18] <MisterE2> this should be easy peasy networking 101
[05:20] <MisterE2> anyone can help me get sshd up booted from live cd?
[05:24] <MisterE2> parted by accident plz help me get sshd up booted from live cd 12.04?
[05:24] <MaMaD> How install Unity 3D ???????
[05:24] <MaMaD> How install Unity 3D ???????
[05:25] <MisterE2> :(
[05:26] <pepee> MisterE2, service ssh start
[05:27] <MisterE2> pepee: start: Unknown job: ssh
[05:27] <pepee> MisterE2, ls -l /etc/init.d/ssh
[05:27] <pepee> somethinginteres, check fuseiso
[05:27] <pepee> somethinginteres, uh, no, sorry, that won't convert the file
[05:28] <halvors>  I run a dhcp server (isc-dhcp-server) on eth0, this works fine, when plugging in a pc, it obtain an ip address. But now i'm trying to implement vlans. So now i have the vlan10 interface, wich have the ip address 172.16.10.1, my problem now is then i not set an ip address on eth0 but use vlan10 for this instead, and changing the listen interface for isc-dhcp-server to vlan10. I no longer obtain an ip address. :( Anyone knows why?
[05:28] <pepee> halvors, I'd ask in ##networking
[05:28] <MisterE2> pepee: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4371 Apr  2 11:49 /etc/init.d/ssh
[05:29] <pepee> MisterE2, as root:  /etc/init.d/ssh start
[05:29] <MisterE2> ok thanks
[05:29] <Nikon> Hi
[05:30] <MisterE2> pepee: may i /msg you plz?
[05:31] <pepee> MisterE2, yes
[05:32] <pepee> hmm does someone knows how is the unity DE package called? just unity?
[05:32] <Zapsoda> hi
[05:33] <Zapsoda> how do i install java on ubuntu 11.10  from the Command line? i have no GUI
[05:34] <pepee> Zapsoda, apt-cache search java  <- to search for a package
[05:34] <Zapsoda> alot came up
[05:34] <pepee> Zapsoda, I have java-common
[05:35] <Zapsoda> so?  sudo apt-get java-common?
[05:35] <Zapsoda> is that right
[05:36] <Zapsoda> ?
[05:36] <pepee> Zapsoda,  sudo apt-get install java-common
[05:36] <Zapsoda> ty
[05:37] <btral> i have a sh for dhcrelay
[05:37] <btral> please see this : http://serverfault.com/questions/404944/dhcrelay-running-as-both-dhcp-and-dhcpv6-relay-agent-on-centos-6-2
[05:37] <Zapsoda> how do i test if its intalled?
[05:37] <wally13377> how do I install a .tar.lzma file
[05:37] <btral> how fill /etc/sysconf/dhsrelay?
[05:38] <pepee> Zapsoda, run: java
[05:38] <btral> how say? dhcrelay -i eth1 -i eth2 -m forward 192.168.2.1
[05:38] <Zapsoda> -bash: java: command not found
[05:38] <btral> dhcp requests forward to another dhcp server (192.168.2.1)
[05:39] <vltra> hello everyone
[05:39] <pepee> btral, I'd ask in ##networking
[05:40] <nag_> Zapsoda: try this link. It may help full to u "http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/"
[05:40] <pepee> Zapsoda, try installing openjdk-6-jre
[05:42] <rollitup> Hi I  have been using Ubuntu 12.04 since past couple of months and i had begun to love it, just last night I did some upgrade and today when i boot i get a grub read error
[05:42] <rollitup> can someone help me troubleshoot this
[05:44] <pepee> rollitup, what error?
[05:44] <rollitup> grub read error
[05:45] <rollitup> i am able to get the recovery mode lets see if this helps
[05:46] <pepee> rollitup, it says something about the UUID?
[05:46] <rollitup> no, but hey thanx pepee I am able to boot now
[05:46] <pepee> rollitup, reinstall grub from a live cd
[05:46] <rollitup> :)
[05:46] <rollitup> I booted in recovery mode and it asked me to press F to fix the erros
[05:47] <pepee> rollitup, good. reinstall it shortly after booting...
[05:47] <rollitup> I need to clean up this desktop with a vaccum cleaner its pretty dusty
[05:47] <Zapsoda> is there anyway i can run a program that has a GUI from SSH?
[05:49] <pepee> Zapsoda, yes, you nedd to do something like:   DISPLAY=:0 program
[05:49] <pepee> Zapsoda, replace "program"
[05:49] <Zapsoda> but what about the options? that are filled in from the GUI?
[05:51] <pepee> Zapsoda, DISPLAY=:0 program options
[05:52] <xui32> i'm installing grub via the terminal to a disk; does anybody know how to suppress questions? i get configuring grub-pc and just want to use the defaults. this is for an automated script i'm writing.
[05:53] <xui32> i already have -y -q like this "chroot /mnt/ apt-get install -y -q cryptsetup lvm2 dmsetup grub2 linux-image-2.6-amd64 aufs-tools whois"
[05:54] <Zapsoda> so?
[05:54] <Zapsoda> java -prog.jar DISPLAY=:0 program options
[05:54] <Zapsoda> ?
[05:54] <pepee> Zapsoda, DISPLAY=:0 java -jar prog.jar
[05:55] <LinuxVertigo> What happens if a download in Software Center freezes?
[05:55] <LinuxVertigo> I can't seem to be able to cancel it
[05:55] <xui32> LinuxVertigoL your computer blows up
[05:56] <LinuxVertigo> head asplodes
[05:56] <xui32> * meant that literally as a joke
[05:56] <LinuxVertigo> lol
[05:56] <LinuxVertigo> yeah i know, do you know how to cancel the d/l?
[05:56] <xui32> LinuxVertifo: i don't
[05:56] <Zapsoda> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.InternalError: Can't connect to X11 window server using ':0' as the value of the DISPLAY variable.
[05:57] <LinuxVertigo> well golly gosh
[05:57] <LinuxVertigo> got it
[05:59] <pepee> Zapsoda, try DISPLAY=localhost:0 java -jar prog.jar
[05:59] <pepee> Zapsoda, or replace localhot with the host IP
[05:59] <stan_man_can> how do you set permissions to get -rw-r--r--
[06:00] <Asad2005> i am building a new network attached storage server two 3TB drives and would like your openion in the following options:
[06:00] <Zapsoda> nope
[06:00] <pepee> stan_man_can, check the chmod manpage
[06:00] <Zapsoda> that didnt work
[06:00] <Asad2005> 1-use ubuntu with zfs file system. pros are i know good enough to adminster ubuntu
[06:00] <Asad2005> 2-use openindiana with zfs. cons. my knowledge in OI is limitted
[06:01] <pepee> stan_man_can, not sure but I think that one is 644
[06:01] <Asad2005> 3-Use FreeNass with zfs. pros. easy to administer i think?
[06:01] <Zapsoda> i give up
[06:01] <stan_man_can> pepee: 644 was it thanks
[06:01] <pepee> stan_man_can, or just u=rw,go=r
[06:01] <Zapsoda> how do i install VNC on it?
[06:01] <stan_man_can> Not sure if this is ontopic for here but anyone know how i can correct this error? trying to setup a ssl cert
[06:01] <stan_man_can> [emerg]: SSL_CTX_use_PrivateKey_file("/home/user/domain/www.domain.com.key") failed (SSL: error:0906D06C:PEM routines:PEM_read_bio:no start line error:140B0009:SSL routines:SSL_CTX_use_PrivateKey_file:PEM lib)
[06:01] <Daghdha> ANyway to make that bar on the keft(with the icons) atthe bottom? Like in windows
[06:01] <pepee> Zapsoda, apt-cache search vnc server
[06:02] <LinuxVertigo> how do I shot web?
[06:02] <pepee> stan_man_can, ls -l "/home/user/domain/www.domain.com.key"
[06:03] <pepee> LinuxVertigo, lol
[06:03] <andrewh192> hey, prolly a really stupid question but what is the best way to take a screen shot of my screen?
[06:04] <andrewh192> does the "print scrn" button on my keyboard work for that purpose?
[06:04] <Daghdha> andrewh192: I just did that.. in a VNC on my windows machine.
[06:04] <pepee> andrewh192, try it
[06:04] <pepee> andrewh192, should work
[06:04] <stan_man_can> pepee: -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 1037 Jul 22 22:19 /home/user/domain/www.domain.com.key
[06:04] <pepee> andrewh192, in kde you have ksnapshot. no idea about unity
[06:05] <andrewh192> gotcha
[06:05] <andrewh192> it worked
[06:05] <andrewh192> yay!!! thanx
[06:05] <Zapsoda> when i VNC in all i get is like the background image
[06:06] <pepee> stan_man_can, ask in ##security , I suppose they can help you
[06:06] <Fudge> anyone ever seen this message WARNING: kernel is not very fresh, upgrade is recommended.
[06:07] <stan_man_can> pepee: thx
[06:07] <Fudge> using precise desktop 3.2.0-26-generic
[06:07] <pepee> Fudge, no, never seen that
[06:07] <Fudge> same
[06:07] <pepee> strange...
[06:08] <pepee> is -27-generic installed?
[06:08] <Fudge> pepee  nope
[06:09] <Fudge> nore is it being held back of offerred for upgrade
[06:09] <wally13377> I
[06:09] <wally13377> I'
[06:09] <wally13377> I've just installed ubuntu and im missing g++ etc
[06:09] <wally13377> is there a base package of essential make tools I can get
[06:09] <Loshki> Fudge: I haven't seen it, but google has. If it's from ping, it's a known bug...
[06:09] <pepee> wally13377, install gcc
[06:09] <Fudge> it is from ping yes
[06:09] <Phiscribe> build-essentials i think
[06:10] <Phiscribe> build-essential   not with the s
[06:10] <Loshki> Fudge: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=120166
[06:10] <StarryNight> anyone is watching youtube vidoes?
[06:10] <Fudge> thanks Loshki
[06:10] <wally13377> pepee: it's set to manually installed
[06:11] <pepee> wally13377, hmm install g++
[06:11] <StarryNight> everything seems blue all of a sudden
[06:11] <Phiscribe> build-essential installs g)) gcc make dpkg-dev libc6-dev
[06:11] <Phiscribe> g++ that is
[06:12] <wally13377> it just seems like there is huge hole in my systems ability to compile anything
[06:12] <wally13377> http://pastebin.com/AaPU1rkG
[06:12] <Phiscribe> wally13377 build-essential
[06:12] <wally13377> Phiscribe: thankyou. Why isn't this package installed by default?
[06:12] <Phiscribe> dunno space?
[06:13] <wally13377> 2857KB worth of space, that is ridiculous
[06:13] <wally13377> how ever will my modern computer cope
[06:13] <xz_> Ubuntu need to fit on the CD.
[06:13] <Loshki> wally13377: because these days, fewer people compile things. On ubuntu, it's rarely necessary...
[06:14] <Phiscribe> i dont know why its not default, space was just an idea, another might be to keep the people out of trouble
[06:14] <xz_> Not too much people compile things.
[06:15] <pepee> try installing gentoo  :P
[06:15] <wally13377> I have installed gentoo before
[06:15] <wally13377> years ago
[06:15] <pepee> wally13377, some projects tipically have a list of dependencies for the programs in some website
[06:15] <wally13377> this unfortunately is why linux can be such a pain. If this had been windows sage would be running cleanly in virtualbox after a few clicks
[06:15] <pepee> wally13377, http://www.sagemath.org/download-source.html
[06:16] <wally13377> oh dear god it is actually compiling
[06:16] <wally13377> I was missing m4 as well
[06:16] <wally13377> I have to admit that kubuntu is rather beautiful
[06:17] <Phiscribe> yeah its sexy
[06:17] <pepee> but bloated
[06:17] <wally13377> I don't understand why it isn't the default ubuntu
[06:17] <wally13377> the new gnome desktop is disgusting
[06:17] <wally13377> I don't want a bloody ipad clone as my desktop
[06:17] <Phiscribe> no problems, there is a selection, to each their own
[06:17] <pepee> yeah, kde is better than gnome and unity
[06:18] <pepee> that's why canonical hates it
[06:18] <Phiscribe> i can live with some bloat
[06:18] <wally13377> Gnome 2 was great, gnome and unity is terrible
[06:18] <pepee> kde runs lots of services
[06:18] <chu> !notunity
[06:18] <xdark> hii frnds
[06:18] <pepee> including mysql...
[06:18] <xdark> pepee   help mee plase
[06:18] <wally13377> pepee, I wonder how it compares to windows 7
[06:19] <pepee> !ask | xdark
[06:19] <Phiscribe> this is just my wild guess, but i think someone sees ubuntu battling the ipads and androids of the world, so they bend that direction somewhat, wild ugess
[06:19] <hwkiller-netbook> gnome 3 isn't bad. unity isn't bad. There's a lot of hatewagoning going on with those.
[06:19] <xdark> how can i  change  grub menu to burg
[06:19] <pepee> wally13377, everytime I install windows, I remove all the eye candy...
[06:19] <Phiscribe> unity is ok, just i like kde better
[06:20] <wally13377> I don't think there is room for another ipad/android because these OS's are purely based around 'apps'
[06:20] <wally13377> and the larger the userbase the more apps
[06:20] <pepee> I used liked kde. now I'm using lxde
[06:20] <Phiscribe> eh i got my hd tv hanging on the wall so ppl can see my kde when they walk in, im so vain
[06:20] <univac> kde 3.5 was the best kde 4.x sux
[06:20] <Phiscribe> i use lxde on a couple boxes too
[06:20] <pepee> xdark, what is burg?
[06:20] <hwkiller-netbook> isn't burg just pointless now with grub2 and syslinux?
[06:21] <livingdaylight> help... firefox is not integrated into the TopBar. I don't know what happened, but does someone know how to reconfigure it so, that it is
[06:21] <wally13377> pepee, what sort of hardware are you running? Surely a modern computer with 4gb ram and a quadcore processor would not show any difference between lxde and gnome/kde bloat?
[06:21] <pepee> xdark, why would you need it?
[06:21] <xdark> brand new universal loader from GRUB
[06:21] <disliked> Hi im trying to upgrade I'm on 8.04.... It says Stopping kernel log daemon OK, but then halts waiting for it to Start..... can someone please help???
[06:21] <pepee> wally13377, pretty sure it still does
[06:21] <Phiscribe> i run lxde on old boxes wally13377  i still got one box with antix that is a PII
[06:21] <hwkiller-netbook> No... burg is a fork, meant for more graphical features
[06:21] <xdark> its a moded grub
[06:22] <hwkiller-netbook> Yes; ubuntu doesn't even use grub anymore
[06:22] <Phiscribe> sorta dismantled atm, but i will RESERECT IT
[06:22] <hwkiller-netbook> it uses grub2
[06:22] <fidel_> ahoi
[06:22] <pepee> wally13377, lots of services and eyecandy means more resources
[06:22] <pepee> and security problems...
[06:22] <Phiscribe> icewm, da bomb diggty for old boxes
[06:23] <xdark> which version of grub using in ubuntu 11.10??  help me
[06:23] <wally13377> Phiscribe, dear sir why are you still using such antiquated hardware?
[06:23] <wally13377> Surely the powerbill is not worth it?
[06:23] <Phiscribe> wally13377 kind sir why are you not?
[06:23] <wally13377> you could invest in a quad core and run half a dozen virtualmachines
[06:23] <univac> I use Mutt and Lynx on a CLI  only interface
[06:23] <disliked> can someone help me with upgrading please
[06:23] <univac> ...sometimes
[06:24] <damir__> When my laptop is running on battery, ubuntu scales my cpu to freq 25%, and I can't convince it to use 100% or on-demand. It goes back to normal when plugged in. Ubuntu 8.04. Anyone has a clue what's going on?
[06:24] <xdark> ubuntu Greattt
[06:24] <disliked> Hi im trying to upgrade I'm on 8.04.... It says Stopping kernel log daemon OK, but then halts waiting for it to Start..... can someone please help???
[06:24] <univac> I don't need eye candy to read/write mail
[06:25] <pepee> damir__, laptop-mode I suppose
[06:25] <xdark> dislike ? tell mee which version  u used ??
[06:25] <Phiscribe> would it sit in the corner and play streaming music, or just be a picture display, or weather app, or just and extra? could you test on vm's for performance?  could you just not soak up the joy for the nostalgia, the chalenge? or bask in you new computer by spending a few moments with the old ones
[06:25] <disliked> I'm trying to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.12
[06:26] <disliked> or w/e the next version is
[06:26] <disliked> im on 8.04 though
[06:26] <Phiscribe> can your vm be a telephone?
[06:26] <Phiscribe> in another room
[06:26] <xdark> its ubuntu?
[06:26] <disliked> yup
[06:26] <damir__> pepee: i'll try disabling it
[06:26] <str0ke> a
[06:26] <str0ke> a
[06:26] <pepee> damir__, nah, don't do that...
[06:28] <xdark> dislike    am sorry about that
[06:28] <damir__> pepee: problem is, i lose any control over cpu freq scaling, even writing directly to /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/
[06:28] <disliked> ..
[06:28] <hwkiller-netbook> what governor is it using right now?
[06:28] <hwkiller-netbook> just userspace?
[06:28] <xdark> plase refer Duck Duck Go serch engine
[06:28] <pepee> damir__, check powersaved
[06:29] <disliked> what?
[06:29] <disliked> you dont even know what your talking about i bet
[06:29] <disliked> Can someone please help me? I'm having problems with a 8.04 upgrade
[06:29] <xdark> duckduckgo.com
[06:29] <pepee> -n     Disables CPU frequency scaling.  In case this feature may cause trouble.
[06:29] <pepee> from the manpage
[06:30] <xdark> i mean refer internet
[06:31] <wally13377> Phiscribe: I love old hardware as well
[06:31] <Phiscribe> ok now your contradicting yoruself, are you comfortable with that?
[06:32] <xdark> dislike   i have an idea about that now
[06:32] <disliked> whats your idea?
[06:32] <xdark> plzz follow mee
[06:32] <univac> Can someone please tell me how to install SeaMonkey from a tar.bz2
[06:32] <xdark> Start software sources from System--->Administration--->Software Sources
[06:32] <Xuriken> Hi!
[06:32] <str0ke> univac, extract it, read the README
[06:32] <wally13377> Phiscribe, I love practicability more than old hardware though
[06:32] <disliked> its console
[06:33] <brophat> anyone know any brick and mortar stores in the usa that sell intel wireless network adapter cards?
[06:33] <disliked> im on a vps
[06:33] <xdark> then click s/w sources
[06:33] <xdark> click on the "Updates"
[06:33] <disliked> thats not sounding like its related to my problem
[06:33] <univac> I extracted it and then typed ./configure but it came back with 'no such file or directory
[06:34] <disliked> and i cant click nothing, im in console
[06:34] <xdark> in under shows " relese update "  set to " normal release
[06:34] <disliked> bro what you're saying isnt making sense
[06:35] <disliked> sounds like nothing to do with start kernel daemon logging back up
[06:35] <Xuriken> I can not activate my video card discreet, someone can help me:?
[06:35] <Xuriken> 've got a lot of forum, reinstalled ubuntu, more than five times, and nothing ... : S
[06:35] <pepee> Xuriken, what card?
[06:36] <pepee> Xuriken, run:  lspci | grep -i vga
[06:36] <Xuriken> ss
[06:36] <Xuriken> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series]
[06:36] <Xuriken> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Robson CE [AMD Radeon HD 6300 Series]
[06:36] <xdark> hello dislike
[06:37] <xdark> are u there
[06:37] <pepee> Xuriken, AMD removed support for those cards...
[06:37] <pepee> Xuriken, but this driver should work:  http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx
[06:37] <disliked> can someone help me with an upgrade on 8.04 please? It wont start kernel log deamon but it stops it.. help please!!
[06:38] <xdark> Dislike   unity --reset
[06:38] <Kartagis> can you help me with linkchecker? it doesn't crawl any URLs
[06:38] <disliked> that has nothing to do with kernel log daemon!!!
[06:39] <pepee> disliked, download the alternate cd and upgrade from it
[06:39] <pepee> disliked, not sure if 8.10 is still supported...
[06:39] <disliked> pepee, hows that gonna make my kernel log deamon start?
[06:39] <disliked> everything else upgraded just fine
[06:39] <disliked> my kernel log daemon just wont start
[06:40] <pepee> Xuriken, instructions here: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Precise_Installation_Guide
[06:40] <ubuntu> hi
[06:41] <livingdaylight> firefox is no longer is no longer integrated into GlobalMenu. Someone know how to fix that? globalmenu extension is there under extensions, so, I'm flumuxxed
[06:41] <pepee> disliked, ah. try reconfiguring the corresponding package?
[06:41] <Xuriken> pepee, looking to.
[06:41] <zhuliminl> ?
[06:41] <disliked> not sure how pepee?
[06:42] <disliked> im pretty newbish
[06:42] <zhuliminl> 有中国人不哈？
[06:42] <pepee> disliked, same here, not sure. but wasn't the log kernel removed or replaced?
[06:42] <pepee> zhuliminl, are you chinese?
[06:42] <univac> pwd
[06:42] <hwkiller-netbook> disliked, try "dpkg-reconfigure firefox-globalmenu"
[06:42] <zhuliminl> 恩 我是的
[06:42] <disliked> the .conf was
[06:43] <pepee> !cn | zhuliminl
[06:43] <NewBit> help
[06:43] <pepee> °ask | NewBit
[06:43] <disliked> hwkiller-netbook what does that have to do with kernel log daemon???
[06:43] <disliked> wtf
[06:43] <hwkiller-netbook> err, sorry
[06:43] <hwkiller-netbook> wrong person
[06:43] <disliked> lmao
[06:43] <hwkiller-netbook> livingdaylight, , try "dpkg-reconfigure firefox-globalmenu"
[06:43] <disliked> :\
[06:43] <Xuriken> pepee, sorry, I do not speak English very well ...
[06:43] <zhuliminl> chinese
[06:43] <NewBit> pepee: What is the help command in webirc?  I would imagine it is /help
[06:43] <zhuliminl> i am chinese
[06:43] <pepee> !cn | zhuliminl
[06:43] <Random832> zhuliminl: this is english channel
[06:44] <pepee> NewBit, no idea, just try it
[06:44] <NewBit> pepee: doesn't work
[06:44] <zhuliminl> i konw
[06:44] <pepee> disliked, not sure, sorry...
[06:44] <zhuliminl> wo yun !
[06:44] <pepee> disliked, why do you need the kernel logger btw?
[06:44] <pepee> disliked, you can check /var/log/syslog
[06:45] <Nikon> English channel
[06:45] <disliked> well its part of the update process
[06:45] <disliked> i dont need it it was just already there
[06:45] <livingdaylight> hwkiller-netbook, any idea why it would have broken in the first place? All i've done is set Unity bar to Auto-Hide and install Unity Mail. It since then that firefox has stopped being integrated into global menu
[06:45] <hwkiller-netbook> No idea, livingdaylight
[06:45] <zhuliminl> 你们在做什么哈？
[06:45] <livingdaylight> hwkiller-netbook, will dpkg-reconfigure firefox-globalmenu take me into complex reconfiguration menus?
[06:46] <pepee> uh
[06:46] <hwkiller-netbook> no, it shouldn't
[06:46] <livingdaylight> hwkiller-netbook, do you run it as sudo?
[06:46] <disliked> i canceled it and did apt-get remove klogd
[06:46] <hwkiller-netbook> yes
[06:48] <Nicekiwi> LinuxVertigo: oh hai :P
[06:49] <LinuxVertigo> Nicekiwi hello
[06:49] <livingdaylight> hwkiller-netbook, that command doesn't open anything up. Is it supposed to?
[06:49] <punto> hi.. how do I get rid of the bar on top of the screen and all the transparency effects on the destop on ubuntu 12.4?
[06:50] <Nicekiwi> LinuxVertigo: not quite morning anymore :P buit nice of you to say so anyways
[06:51] <xdark> hello
[06:51] <xdark> if anybody one use burg
[06:51] <xdark> help me
[06:52] <LinuxVertigo> Nicekiwi yeah it's all good in the hood
[06:53] <hwkiller-netbook> Why do you want to use burg, xdark?
[06:53] <hwkiller-netbook> I'm telling you, to my knowledge, burg is pointless nowadays
[06:53] <livingdaylight> hwkiller-netbook, ?
[06:54] <kr4sh> i loaded ubuntu on D: but i can't find the folders i had in windows??
[06:54] <kr4sh> how do i see all my drives in ubuntu?
[06:54] <Nicekiwi> kr4sh: did you install ubuntu inside of windows with Wubi?
[06:54] <hwkiller-netbook> kr4sh, assuming you didn't destroy your windows install, open the file manager (nautilus) and look for your windows' partition name on the left
[06:55] <kr4sh> yes nicekiwi
[06:55] <kr4sh> no
[06:55] <kr4sh> i didnt
[06:55] <kr4sh> i can boot into windows
[06:55] <fidel_> kr4sh: yes/no?
[06:55] <kr4sh> No i didn't use wibu
[06:55] <Nicekiwi> kr4sh: look for a folder in your root directory called "host"
[06:55] <fidel_> *wubi* ;)
[06:56] <islandmonkey> lol wibu
[06:56] <kr4sh> lol
[06:57] <kr4sh> ok found it in host
[06:57] <kr4sh> kewl
[06:57] <kr4sh> why does ubuntu seem so much slower than windows?
[06:57] <kr4sh> could it be cuz windows is setup on the ssd?
[06:58] <fidel_> kr4sh: slower with what?
[06:58] <kr4sh> like when i click on stuff it takes a second to load
[06:58] <xdark> slower with what?
[06:58] <kr4sh> in windows it's instant
[06:58] <fidel_> kr4sh: click what?
[06:58] <kr4sh> slower than windows.
[06:58] <kr4sh> like, for instance, any folder
[06:58] <fidel_> kr4sh: try to speak in full sentences
[06:58] <kr4sh> or any program
[06:58] <hwkiller-netbook> I'm not sure if ubuntu auto-sets up your SSD. If you're using the ext4 filesystem, you need to enable the discard option, noatime, nodiratime
[06:58] <fidel_> it rocks ;)
[06:59] <islandmonkey> !flood | kr4sh
[06:59] <islandmonkey> Whoops
[06:59] <islandmonkey> !sentence | kr4sh
[06:59] <kr4sh> How do I setup that? (discard / noatime nodiratime) and will that have any effect on my windows drive?
[07:00] <kr4sh> I'm a noobie I'm sorry that I wasn't speaking in full sentences.
[07:00] <xdark> wine
[07:00] <xdark> 		sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa
[07:00] <xdark> 		sudo apt-get update
[07:00] <xdark> 		sudo apt-get install wine1.4
[07:00] <FloodBot1> xdark: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:00] <xdark> ubuntu   prozgui   =idm
[07:00] <xdark> proz gui
[07:00] <Nicekiwi> kr4sh: you are using ubuntu on a windows partition formatted to NTFS, that mode WILL BE SLOW.
[07:01] <codemaniac> !info htop
[07:01] <kr4sh> Nicekiwi: oh ok.  Makes sense.  So I need another drive and it will be much faster?
[07:01] <fidel_> Nicekiwi: using wubi to install ubuntu isnt that perfect. it has some pros as it might look easy for starters . but it has some cons performance wise
[07:01] <fidel_> erm - that was for kr4sh
[07:01] <xdark> try ubuntu partition another drive   its Better
[07:01] <Nicekiwi> fidel_: :P ya i guessed
[07:01] <fidel_> ;)
[07:02] <kr4sh> Okay great.. I could also partition my 2tb drive right?
[07:02] <kr4sh> or even partition the ssd
[07:02] <Nicekiwi> kr4sh: yeah, if you have a spare harddrive you can install it on, best do that for preformance. Better if its an SSD drive :P
[07:02] <kr4sh> I think I will buy another ssd for linux.  Thanks for the help.
[07:03] <xdark> logging windows    then goto disk management
[07:03] <Nicekiwi> kr4sh: you can.. techincially.. but it will be slow assuming you have already fully partitioned the drive for windows. might take a day or so to complete a resise opperation
[07:03] <xdark> and try  a disk delete   " dont create
[07:03] <Nicekiwi> kr4sh: if you can afford that, gr8 :D best idea
[07:03] <xdark> then inset ur ubuntu live cd and restart.
[07:03] <kr4sh> excellent.
[07:03] <kr4sh> I'm going to idle here.
[07:03] <MkZx^> Where can I contact freenode #ubuntu group operators? :)
[07:03] <kr4sh> Goodnight.
[07:03] <brophat> which is better wirless G or N?
[07:04] <xdark> ubuntu will automatically detect ur windows partion
[07:04] <fidel_> MkZx^: chan-ops are in this channel
[07:04] <MkZx^> I see only @Bots
[07:04] <fidel_> brophat: N if all your devices support it
[07:04] <fidel_> !ops
[07:04] <xdark> good night
[07:04] <fidel_> MkZx^: they usually dont show the @ ;)
[07:04]  * Nicekiwi likes to pretend hes an op (hes really not!)
[07:05] <Logan_> fidel_: Please don't do that unless it's actually an emergency that the ops have to tend to.
[07:05] <brophat> fidel what does public places like starbuck use?
[07:06] <Nicekiwi> star*ucks ha ha ha
[07:06] <Nicekiwi> something slow and cheap i would assume.
[07:07] <xdark> freedom
[07:07] <brophat> fidel isn't G still basically wht is mostly used?
[07:07] <cheshair> Hi, can anybody have the Java applet running at http://wiasf.cupmet-fi.it/ASFWeb/WICUP/index.do with Firefox on Ubuntu 12.04? I get a "Start: applet not initialized" error and don't know how to solve that. (I have Java stuff installed and Java applets working fine on other pages. Conversely the Java applet I linked works fine on my Mac.)
[07:08] <Myrtti> MkZx^: why are you asking? feel free to join #ubuntu-ops, they will direct you elsewhere if needed
[07:09] <jpds> Myrtti: Already in -irc.
[07:09] <Myrtti> good good
[07:10] <MkZx^> I think I contacted right persons on #ubuntu-irc. I need to gain OP mode back for #ubuntu-lv channel, this is Latvian ubuntu community channel, but lately all OPs left
[07:10] <MkZx^> So channel is kinda dead, but still there are couple of people in there sometimes.
[07:14] <woowoowoo> Niggers can be found everywhere
[07:14] <woowoowoo> around every corner
[07:15] <woowoowoo> and their lovers are everywhere too!  One of freenode's most notorious niggerlovers is snardbafulator
[07:15] <DJones> woowoowoo: Wrong channel
[07:15] <woowoowoo> snardbafulator deserves to be tied up and anally
[07:17] <jhudak> Are any of the screensavers in Xscreensaver linked to music?
[07:23] <mang0> Hey all. I've recently built a new computer, (retaining my old HDDs) and I need to upgrade my Ubuntu 12.04 from 32-bit to 64-bit. Normally I would download the .ISO, put it on a CD, and boot up from that. However, my new computer doesn't yet have a disc-drive, so I'm trying to install from a USB thumb drive, which isn't working. I've followed the instructions on the ubuntu site to create a...
[07:23] <mang0> ...bootable USB stick, and yet when I put USB-HDD in the top of the list in BIOS, it still boots from my HDD. I've even tried removing HDD from the options, still boots from it. I then unplugged all of my HDDs, and POST just tells me there is no startup disk. What can I do? My motherboard is a Gigabyte 970A-DS3. Thanks!
[07:24] <SuperMiguel> wtf rsync keeps giving me error: rsync failed to set times invalid argument (22)
[07:24] <Phiscribe> sounds like the usb is not bootable, got another box to test it on
[07:25] <Arash> hello
[07:26] <mang0> Phiscribe: Uh...a mac?
[07:26] <usr13_> SuperMiguel: --omit-dir-times
[07:26] <mang0> Phiscribe: I know the ISO that I used is okay, i tested it in virtualbox.
[07:26] <SuperMiguel> usr13: what are those times for?
[07:27] <usr13_>  -O
[07:27] <Arash> hello I have a problem
[07:27] <SuperMiguel> usr13: ?
[07:27] <Arash> wait
[07:28] <Arash> fixed :D
[07:28] <usr13_> It sets modification times
[07:29] <Arash> guys how can I add google repository to my sources ?
[07:29] <usr13_> SuperMiguel: see  man rsync
[07:30] <islandmonkey> Arash: Did it not add automatically when you installed Google Chrome and/or Earth?
[07:30] <bsm117532> Anyone tried linux 3.4 or 3.5 kernels on precise?  2 computers and on both I get no (usb) keyboard input.
[07:30] <Arash> no ! It didn'
[07:30] <Arash> t
[07:30] <usr13_> SuperMiguel: -O
[07:30] <Arash> btw , my Google Earth has font problems
[07:31] <usr13_> SuperMiguel: -O tells rsync to omit directories when it is preserving modification times.
[07:31] <logolas> hello all I want to install kde-full and on installing it ask me this  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1105979/  which one?
[07:32] <Phiscribe> thats for infred control, like a remote control, are you using one?
[07:32] <SuperMiguel> usr13: still not sure what u mean by that
[07:32] <Phiscribe> infrared
[07:32] <Phiscribe> that was for logolas
[07:33] <logolas> Phiscribe, I have hp laptop and yes it have one remote :) which one i must to use ?
[07:33] <livingdaylight> anyone know what broke my FF integration in GlobalMenu ?
[07:34] <usr13_> SuperMiguel: The modification time is different and is being updated  to  the  sender's  value
[07:34] <livingdaylight> Is UBUNTU very fragile os?
[07:34] <logolas> Phiscribe, it only have hp Ipaq but i have dv 4
[07:34] <islandmonkey> Arash: I'd ask this question in the Chrome Help Forums - https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!forum/chrome
[07:34] <Phiscribe> logolas i dont know if your's is not on the list, worst case, pick none and reconfigure it later
[07:34] <stian_> hi guys. is it still possible to install proftpd in ubuntu?
[07:34] <stian_> is there are repo somehwere?
[07:35] <usr13_> SuperMiguel: ...or in this case, is not being updated ...
[07:35] <andrewh192> how to setup desktop sharing.. i figured out how to "share" my desktop on this computer, but how do i connect to this one?
[07:36] <usr13_> livingdaylight: Do you have chrome installed?
[07:36] <Phiscribe> stian_ proftpd used to be in the repo
[07:36] <islandmonkey> stian: sudo apt-get install proftpd works fine here (12.04)
[07:36] <r0tha> andrewh192:  check out vnc daemons
[07:36] <livingdaylight> usr13, no
[07:36] <islandmonkey> stian_: sudo apt-get install proftpd works fine here (12.04)
[07:36] <andrewh192> ok
[07:36] <livingdaylight> usr13, does installing chrome break firefox?
[07:36] <Phiscribe> andrewh192 i think you need a vnc client
[07:36] <andrewh192> ok
[07:36] <r0tha> Phiscribe: that and a server running on the box you want to connect to
[07:37] <r0tha> works really well
[07:37] <Phiscribe> ah well he said he set his desktop to share, so i assume he has a server
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[07:38] <FloodBot1> eXpander: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:38] <Loshki> livingdaylight: not usually. I run both chrome and FF at the same time under 12.04
[07:38] <livingdaylight> usr13, why do you ask?
[07:38] <livingdaylight> Loshki, FF is no longer integratd into global menu
[07:39] <fishbait> radeon hd 6670 is fglrx the amd proprietary driver that can be downlaoded from the amd website or is it different?
[07:39] <Loshki> livingdaylight: ah, I don't use unity, so I hadn't noticed..
[07:42] <fishbait> radeon hd 6670 is fglrx the amd proprietary driver that can be downlaoded from the amd website or is it different?
[07:43] <pepee> fishbait, yes, but I got a watermark when installed that driver...
[07:43] <pepee> *when I
[07:44] <andrewh192> Phiscribe: I was wondering, it looks as if, i need a set server in order to connect with vnc, and i just wanna connect over my local network two computers..
[07:45] <andrewh192> Phiscribe: one being my desktop, and the other a laptop. would be nice to be able to control my desktop from my laptop
[07:45] <andrewh192> Phiscribe: i thought maybe that there, through vino, i was able to just connect the two...
[07:45] <kristof> Does anyone know of an easy way to rip VRO dvd's in ubuntu? I'm using dvdrip, but it can only handle VOB's.
[07:46] <andrewh192> Phiscribe: without a dedicated server...
[07:46] <usr13_> livingdaylight: Doesn't necessarily completely break it but sometimes causes problems.
[07:47] <Phiscribe> andrewh192 if you "enable desktop sharing" you are turing the server on, you need a client on the other end to connect. you probably already have a server, its how all remote desktop sharing works
[07:47] <fishbait> how do i fine tune performance watching a video stored on an external hdd connected directly to the router and shared as a network drive i'm running full duplex gigabit ethernet and have a radeon HD 6670 fglrx driver using vlc media player. i want to eliminate video garble when skipping ahead
[07:47] <mang0> Hey all. I've recently built a new computer, (retaining my old HDDs) and I need to upgrade my Ubuntu 12.04 from 32-bit to 64-bit. Normally I would download the .ISO, put it on a CD, and boot up from that. However, my new computer doesn't yet have a disc-drive, so I'm trying to install from a USB thumb drive, which isn't working. I've followed the instructions on the ubuntu site to create a...
[07:47] <mang0> ...bootable USB stick (tried with both UNetbootin and dd), and yet when I put USB-HDD in the top of the list in BIOS, it still boots from my HDD. I've even tried removing HDD from the options, still boots from it. I then unplugged all of my HDDs, and POST just tells me there is no startup disk. What can I do? My motherboard is a Gigabyte 970A-DS3. Thanks!
[07:47] <usr13_> Phiscribe: proftpd still is in the repositories
[07:47] <Phiscribe> i can remember the nomenclature in the the latest ubuntu, but it the client might be called "connecto to remote computer" vnc client or soemthing
[07:47] <Phiscribe> cant
[07:48] <DJones> csop
[07:48] <gregcor> mang0: Is there anything on POST that allows you to pick a specific boot device one-time?
[07:49] <Phiscribe> stain_ was asking not me  usr13, i think he is long gone
[07:49] <mang0> gregcor: Yes, I can hit F12 to select the boot device for that boot. When I hit F12, it comes up with a few options, and one of them has a small bullet-point next to it, to show it's selected. This is always HDD, even if it's set not to in BIOS. If I select USB-HDD from tehre, same thing happens....
[07:50] <kristof> mang0, you saved the bios settings before rebooting?
[07:51] <fishbait> how do i fine tune performance watching a video stored on an external hdd connected directly to the router and shared as a network drive i'm running full duplex gigabit ethernet and have a radeon HD 6670 fglrx driver using vlc media player. i want to eliminate video garble when skipping ahead
[07:51] <mang0> kristof: Yup...It's been suggested to me that I "disasble other boot devices" in BIOS, and try again
[07:51] <usr13_> Phiscribe: Yea, I know... just FYI
[07:52] <fishbait> @mang0: this may sound stupid but are you saving the settings after you change them?
[07:52] <andrewh192> Phiscribe: gotcha
[07:52] <andrewh192> Phiscribe: thanx
[07:52] <andrewh192> Phiscribe: i am downloading Vinagre on my latop
[07:52] <andrewh192> Phiscribe: I will see if that works
[07:52] <mang0> fishbait: Yes :P
[07:53] <faza> hi ! i need help
[07:53] <fishbait> @mang0: well just thought i'd ask always start simple
[07:53] <r0tha> faza
[07:53] <r0tha> just ask
[07:53] <usr13_> mang0: Yea, that's about it, try dissabling options to boot other devices, that's about all you can do, other than try another USB stick.
[07:53] <mang0> fishbait: Of course :)
[07:53] <mang0> usr13: The only other stick I've got is 2GB, is that large enough?
[07:53] <kristof> And if you pull out the hard drive plug from the motherboard? Normally your computer would then try and find the next available bootable medium
[07:53] <faza> i cant use windows skype in ubuntu ultimate
[07:53] <LinuxVertigo> how do i get wine to recognise the 2nd disk of an installation?
[07:53] <r0tha> why would you want to use anything windows?
[07:53] <fishbait> @mang0: well i got nuthin else just like they said try dis abling other boot devices
[07:54] <r0tha> trololol
[07:54] <usr13_> mang0: I dono... look at the size of the ISO.  Maybe...
[07:54] <islandmonkey> faza: Use native skype
[07:54] <mang0> kristof: Of yeah, I forgot to say, I tried actually unplugging my HDDs, it just said "no bootable medium"
[07:54] <faza> how can i get that
[07:54] <r0tha> fishbait: go ahead and use the ubuntu software center
[07:54] <r0tha> search for skype
[07:54] <HiddenKnowledge> mang0: Does the bios mention usb anywhere?
[07:54] <r0tha> and you should be good to go
[07:54] <mang0> faza: sudo apt-get install skype
[07:54] <kristof> mang0: Have you made your USB-drive bootable?
[07:54] <islandmonkey> http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux
[07:54] <usr13_> mang0: Some PCs just seem to have a hard time booting to USB, I've had that problem too.
[07:54] <faza> let me try
[07:55] <islandmonkey> mang0: That is Skype 2.2
[07:55] <fishbait> @r0tha: you meant that for faza right?
[07:55] <islandmonkey> Latest version is 4.0
[07:55] <mang0> HiddenKnowledge: Yeah. I can set the boot order to USB-HDD, USB-CD, USB-FDD etc etc
[07:55] <r0tha> yezzir
[07:55] <mang0> islandmonkey: I see
[07:55] <fishbait> @r0tha: you messaged it to me
[07:55] <r0tha> ah my bad
[07:55] <r0tha> tab
[07:55] <mang0> kristof: I don't know...I used UNetbootin and dd, but I can't test it out on anothe rmachine
[07:56] <HiddenKnowledge> mang0: Hmm, maybe you might have more luck with another usb drive or with a usb dvd drive, assuming you have any.
[07:56] <islandmonkey> See http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/06/skype-for-linux-loses-beta-tag-bumps-to-4-0
[07:56] <mang0> seeing as I don't *have* another that I can test it on!
[07:56] <mang0> oh
[07:56] <gregcor> mang0: have you tried downloading something else through unetbootin?
[07:56] <chimptroll> Niggers are a scourge on humanity
[07:56] <r0tha> i use tab like a crackhead wanting a fix
[07:56] <mang0> HiddenKnowledge: I see, I guess I could try.
[07:56] <r0tha> tab tab tab
[07:56] <fishbait> hmm mang0 try that same boot device in another pc if it doesn't work there its the device not the pc
[07:57] <mang0> fishbait: I'm gonna try removing the ability to boot from other devices first, then I'll try a different PC
[07:57] <fishbait> yep try em in that order
[07:58] <usr13_> mang0: good idea
[07:59] <kristof> anyone know an easy way to convert VRO to AVI or VOB?
[07:59] <andrewh192> ok, that's kewl.. it works.. but really slow
[08:00] <bazhang> kristof, tried Handbrake?
[08:00] <andrewh192> lates guys
[08:00] <kristof> bazhang, no, I'll take a look, thanks
[08:03] <faza> i have download skype bout i got this error Wrong architecture 'i386'
[08:03] <usr13_> kristof:  dvd-vr  http://www.pixelbeat.org/programs/dvd-vr/
[08:04] <usr13_> faza: uname -a
[08:04] <faza> what user13?
[08:04] <kristof> usr13: that looks exactly what I was looking for, ty
[08:04] <usr13_> faza: Is your OS 32bit or 64?
[08:04] <usr13_> kristof: NP
[08:04] <LinuxVertigo> how do I load the second disk of MW3 into wine?
[08:04] <mang0> usr13, fishbait, kristof: Fixed it!
[08:05] <usr13_> mang0: Awesome....
[08:05] <mang0> usr13, fishbait, kristof: I had to turn on "USB Legacy Support" which is supoosed to be on by default
[08:05] <kristof> mang0, by disabling the other devices?
[08:05] <mang0> I also had to change some weird boot order I hadn't seen...the HDD was at the top of the list,  had to move "bootable cards" up
[08:05] <usr13_> aaahhh... Thanks for info mang0
[08:05] <kristof> glad you figured it out
[08:06] <mang0> It was in some weird menu that I don't know how I got to, but either way it works!
[08:06] <mang0> Thanks for your help ( HiddenKnowledge too)
[08:06] <usr13_> mang0: Yea, sometimes you have to fish around a bit.  Our modern PCs sometimes have a pretty sophistocated BIOS
[08:06] <Guegjk> hu
[08:06] <Guegjk> hi
[08:07] <Guegjk> anyone good in tennis?
[08:07] <mang0> usr13: Yeah apparantly so. Everything was so simple in my old MB's BIOS! :)
[08:07] <usr13_> *sophisticated
[08:07] <mang0> !ot | Guegjk
[08:07] <mang0> That said, I do play tennis!
[08:08] <Halitus> hi all can any one help with some mdadm issues?
[08:09] <faza> user13 how do i find that
[08:10] <usr13_> Halitus: http://blog.neolocus.com/2012/04/ubuntu-12-04-lts-and-soft-raid-with-mdadm/
[08:10] <faza> that for me?
[08:10] <Halitus> will read cheers
[08:10] <Halitus> no for me
[08:10] <usr13_> faza: uname -a
[08:11] <faza> how do i find that
[08:11] <Guegjk> hm
[08:11] <faza> the 32or64 bit
[08:11] <bazhang> faza type that in a terminal
[08:12] <diverdude> Why do i sometimes have to write the command synclient TouchpadOff=1 to turn off the touchpad? It seems completely random how many times I have to write the command before it works - sometimes 1 time, sometimes 8 times , sometimes 4 etc. ???
[08:12] <faza> its 34 bit
[08:12] <faza> 64
[08:14] <faza> user13
[08:15] <usr13_> faza: If you have a 64bit system, you have to install 64bit app
[08:15] <usr13_> faza: unless you do multilib
[08:16] <faza> okey but i didn't  see the suggestion
[08:16] <geirha> faza: Why don't you just install it via the software center?
[08:16] <faza> so i can search for slype
[08:16] <bazhang> !info skype partner | faza geirha
[08:16] <Guegjk> hu
[08:16] <Guegjk> hi
[08:17] <bazhang> Guegjk, ubuntu support question?
[08:17] <faza> thanks
[08:17] <bazhang> faza, as you see the partner repo only has the 32 bit skype
[08:17] <Guegjk> hm
[08:18] <faza> is there any itunes version for ubuntu ultmate
[08:18] <bazhang> faza, are you using ultimate?
[08:18] <faza> yes
[08:18] <bazhang> faza, thats not supported here
[08:18] <faza> why?
[08:18] <Guegjk> banshee
[08:18] <Guegjk> vlc
[08:18] <Guegjk> to nane a few
[08:18] <Guegjk> name
[08:18] <bazhang> Guegjk, whats the exact question
[08:19] <bazhang> !ultimate | faza
[08:19] <susundberg> wait what, i am using skype from partner repo with 64b ubuntu
[08:20] <geirha> Ouch, that factoid's too long
[08:20] <usr13_> susundberg: multilib ?
[08:20] <faza> so do i have to get ubuntu
[08:20] <bazhang> faza, to get support here: Yes
[08:20] <usr13_> faza: Only if you want to.
[08:20] <faza> thanks for your time
[08:21] <usr13_> faza: Problem is, some of the info we give here will not be accurate for your system.
[08:21] <susundberg> usr13_: no, but native afaik: http://pastebin.com/TR4KLv7J
[08:21] <susundberg> usr13_: but i guess you were talking of something else ( sorry for not reading backlog)
[08:21] <faza> k i got that user13
[08:22] <usr13_> susundberg:  skype_2.2.0.35-0precise3_amd64.deb
[08:22] <usr13_> susundberg: You have a 64bit system.  Right?
[08:23] <susundberg> usr13_: yeah i do
[08:24] <usr13_> susundberg: Well, from the looks of the file-name, you have installed a 64bit version of skype.  Right?
[08:24] <susundberg> usr13_: yes, afaik i hav
[08:25] <Guegjk> hi
[08:26] <utopman> hi
[08:26] <usr13_> low
[08:26] <geirha> susundberg, usr13_: It's still 32-bit, but it depends on the right set of 32-bit libs to get it working on a 64-bit system
[08:26] <usr13_> o
[08:26] <HungryMan> Anyone know how I can delay a process from booting up if it's using a /init.d/ thing?
[08:26] <faza> unable to mount faza's iphone
[08:27] <bazhang> faza this is for ultimate. ultimate is NOT supported here
[08:28] <faza> no way i can fix it before  i move to ubuntu
[08:28] <geirha> faza: /join #UltimateEdition
[08:29] <usr13_> at any rate,, as I tried to explain to faza, he CAN install a 32bit app if he gets 32bit libraries for it, (or one that comes with them), which in this case, I suppose it does.  He can probably get it from his package manager, (more-than-likely same way susundberg did).
[08:29] <usr13_> Some just install a complete set of 32bit libraries...
[08:29] <usr13_> they call it multilib
[08:31] <timfrost> HungryMan: You can change the order in which it is processed by changing the sequencing number in the name in /etc/rc2.d or /etc/rc3.d ( eg /etc/rc2.d/S12process becomes /etc/rc2.d/S98process).  I don't know if this will  affect the order of upstart jobs
[08:32] <HungryMan> I'll give that a try
[08:32] <HungryMan> I have a process starting before apparmor, that's the issue
[08:34] <timfrost> HungryMan: what is the issue with the interaction between the process and apparmor?
[08:36] <usr13_> timfrost: I hope HungryMan let's us know if it works.
[08:37] <HungryMan> So how would I go about having my /init/x.conf use one of those others? Sorry, I had to restart
[08:37] <usr13_> timfrost: That is a question I'd like to know the answer to; If you can change the order that upstart loads just by changing file-names
[08:38] <timfrost> HungryMan:  what is the issue that you hav?
[08:38] <HungryMan> I created a script in /init/ that's starting up before apparmor so it's starting unconfined
[08:38] <HungryMan> restarting isn't really an option as it breaks the process
[08:39] <shutup> ?
[08:40] <usr13_> HungryMan: Did you put a symlink somewhere else?
[08:40] <HungryMan> i did ln -s to /lib/init/upstart-job
[08:40] <usr13_> HungryMan: Wait,.... if you put the script in /etc/init/  that's the wrong place, isnt' it?
[08:41] <usr13_> should be /etc/init.d/
[08:41] <HungryMan> oh, sorry, that's where it is
[08:41] <EnginA> how comprimised is a system whose etc backup is leaked ? :) which incldue /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow
[08:41] <HungryMan> I did this
[08:41] <HungryMan> 'sudo ln -s /lib/init/upstart-job /etc/init.d/dnscrypt-proxy'
[08:41] <usr13_> HungryMan: Ok
[08:41] <livingdaylight> guys, firefox integration into global menu is broken. Anyone know how to fix this?
[08:42] <geirha> EnginA: /etc/password is harmless, but if /etc/shadow has been leaked, you should have all users change their password
[08:42] <fidel_> livingdaylight: running latest versions?
[08:42] <livingdaylight> fidel_, yes
[08:42] <fidel_> livingdaylight: checked if there is already a bug reported?
[08:42] <livingdaylight> fidel_, checking forums and google for solutions
[08:43] <fidel_> if not - and you can reproduce the issue - consider reporting it using ubuntu-bug
[08:43] <EnginA> geirha: is the hashing still weak ? can it be attacked ?
[08:43] <Guest63125> hi buddy can i ask a question for network safety
[08:44] <livingdaylight> fidel_, trying to get my problem fixed but you're soliciting I post bugs?
[08:44] <Guest63125> who can help me t o secure my email
[08:44] <geirha> EnginA: Not sure what the default hash is now, but no matter how long it is, I wouldn't bet on it never being cracked
[08:45] <EnginA> ok, those two are the first things i coudl think of, anything from top of your heads that could be important in /etc/* ?
[08:45] <fidel_> livingdaylight: no - i advice you to report the issue - if there is a one which is reproduceable. thats the way how devs get info about nugs/issues in the first place ;)
[08:45] <fidel_> apart fro mthat i cant help you as i dont use that global menu myself
[08:46] <geirha> EnginA: Anything not world readable. Some config files contain passwords too
[08:46] <EnginA> the thing is, proftpd's DefaultRoot option was DISABLED by default in ubuntu! and from transfer logs i can see that one (naive and harmless) user downloaded ETC backup tarball.
[08:46] <HungryMan> so anyone have any idea how I can ge tthis process confined?
[08:46] <EnginA> I don't think he'd do anything... but... I want to see the odds
[08:46] <Guest63125> hi admin
[08:46] <timfrost> HungryMan: usr13_:  a symlink to /lib/init/upstart-job needs to be in /etc/rc2.d or /etc/rc3.d as Sxx..... to be processed by the traditional init process.  Symlinks in /etc/init.d won't have the same effect.  /etc/init.d is where a traditional script would be installed, with symlinks named Sxx... or Kxx.... to start (Sxx) or stop (Kxx) the job in given run levels (the x in RCx.d)
[08:47] <geirha> EnginA: Ouch, best not keep backups in world readable directories anymore :)
[08:47] <usr13_> HungryMan: update-rc.d
[08:47] <HungryMan> But the process *is* starting up.
[08:48] <HungryMan> how would I use it in this case?
[08:48] <HungryMan> I was goin to try restarting the process with rc.local but it breaks it/ can't seem to get it working
[08:48] <usr13_> timfrost: Yea, so use a file-name that will order it...?
[08:48] <usr13_> HungryMan: It breaks what?
[08:48] <HungryMan> dnscrpyt
[08:48] <HungryMan> and all dns resolutions
[08:49] <HungryMan> It needs to be started with a series of parameters so that it works and they don't seem to work with rc.local
[08:49] <HungryMan> http://linuxaria.com/howto/dnscrypt-crypt-your-dns-request?lang=en
[08:49] <HungryMan> I  used that guide but I started at creating a user account
[08:49] <EnginA> geirha: well... it's a complicated scneario but, yeah, you are right. crontab is taking backups to /home/backup and remote hosts are rsyncing some backups to there too. so it has to be written by a few users.
[08:50] <EnginA> or I should add root (crontab) to backup group
[08:50] <geirha> EnginA: Yeah, use group ownership to limit access only to the users that need access
[08:52] <timfrost>  usr13_:  I don't know. I haven't dealt with upstart enough.  The naming of files works for the older inti system, but if upstart is processing a configuration file (or looking in a directory) that HungryMan isn't correctly updating, that could be the issue
[08:52] <EnginA> geirha: btw, any sensible explanation why DefaultRoot is not enabled in ProFTPd by default ?
[08:52] <EnginA> I totally was expecting so...
[08:52] <geirha> EnginA: No, I stay far away from ftp
[08:53] <HungryMan> http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=221667&d=1343026975
[08:53] <HungryMan> You can see there that dnscrypt-proxy starts before the apparmor_parser
[08:53] <EnginA> well, it's ubiquitous :)
[08:54] <usr13_> HungryMan: Why can't you start it in rc.local?
[08:55] <HungryMan> I can't get it to start and use the parameters
[08:55] <HungryMan> it needs those parameters or it doesn't function
[08:55] <usr13_> what happens?
[08:55] <HungryMan> no dns resolution
[08:55] <HungryMan> exec /usr/sbin/dnscrypt-proxy -a 127.0.0.2 –edns-payload-size=4096 –pidfile=/run/dnscrypt-proxy.pid –resolver-port=443 –local-port=53 –tcp-only –user=dnscrypt
[08:55] <HungryMan> That's what it uses
[08:55] <usr13_> 127.0.0.2?
[08:55] <HungryMan> Yeah
[08:56] <HungryMan> Ubuntu has a DNS cache on .1 so it needs ot use .2
[08:56] <usr13_> o
[08:57] <usr13_> so does it work if you just start it manually?
[08:57] <HungryMan> nope, it doesn't work
[08:57] <HungryMan> It only works when I boot up
[08:57] <HungryMan> but if I do "restart dnscrypt-proxy" it breaks
[08:58] <usr13_> It says... "After this you'll have to setup your network connection, changing the DNS namserver to 127.0.0.1"  ...?
[08:58] <HungryMan> That's for non-Ubuntu distros
[08:58] <HungryMan> Ubuntu 12.04 added a DNS resolution cache at 127.0.0.1
[08:59] <usr13_> o
[08:59] <mang0_> Heya, I'm installing ubuntu 12.04 64-bit, and I have a 250GB HDD that I'm using as my install disk. However, I need to re-partition it; it already has Ubuntu 8.04 on it with a swap partition and a 25GB partition. I want to make it into one partition, and install into that. (I know I need swap and stuff, but you know what I mean...). How can I do this?  http://ompldr.org/iZXU0aw is what I'm currently seeing.
[09:00] <mang0_> Ignore /dev/sdb.
[09:00] <usr13_> HungryMan: Well, it just says:  "add this line to your /etc/rc.local file: /usr/sbin/dnscrypt-proxy --daemonize"
[09:00] <HungryMan> Yeah, that's also for non ubuntu distros
[09:00] <usr13_> HungryMan: So starting it last is what you want.
[09:00] <HungryMan> I've tried
[09:00] <HungryMan> Last or at least just after Apparmor
[09:01] <HungryMan> if I can get apparmor to start earlier, that works great
[09:01] <usr13_> I just think you don't have something configured right...
[09:01] <HungryMan> maybe
[09:01] <HungryMan> I messed around with it a lot
[09:01] <APinochet> Niggers are a plague that must be eliminated!
[09:01] <HungryMan> if I couuld undo everything it would make my life easier
[09:02] <APinochet> That is why I am a member of a forum called chimpout!
[09:02] <compdoc> they dont allow chimps?
[09:02] <Tm_T> compdoc: ignore trolls
[09:02] <compdoc> thats jus crazy
[09:02] <HungryMan> I'm gonna experiment i may get cut off but likely not since it's just dns
[09:04] <HungryMan> hm did I get cut off?
[09:04] <Tm_T> no?
[09:04] <robot-beethoven> hmm... i'm trying to edit a file on a borked linux partition, but when i tru to sudo-edit the file, sudo gives me: unable to change to sudoers gid: Operation not permitted
[09:04] <HungryMan> using 127.0.0.1 doesn't work for me either
[09:04] <tking> hi guys i am getting this error Could not find "/home/tking/Documents". i dont know why
[09:05] <tking> i cant open my documents folder
[09:05] <compdoc> robot-beethoven, can you copy the file elsewhere?
[09:06] <robot-beethoven> i need to change it on the partition, since the partition has a borked boot
[09:06] <HungryMan> yeah, internet's all broken now
[09:06] <HungryMan> ill be back in like 30 seconds
[09:06] <Vegetablesalad> good morning! Just a quick question, how do I install library’s for use in c/cpp. I have *.so.o files, should I just drop them in /usr/lib and that's it ?
[09:07] <HungryMan> and back
[09:08] <yandex3829> Vegetablesalad: I suggest reading a good book on C development, such as C Programming language by K&R. Otherwise you'll run into lots of these beginner issues
[09:12] <progre55> hi guys! I'm trying to write an init.d script. The thing is, my deamon needs to be able to restart itself from time to time, and it issues a command like "service mydeamon restart". However, the restart doesnt work, because it dies after the "stop" phase :) any suggestions, please? I'm using the start-stop-deamon btw
[09:12] <usr13_> HungryMan: What does /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf look like?
[09:13] <usr13_> HungryMan: What broke?
[09:13] <HungryMan> ill have a look at it now
[09:13] <geirha> progre55: Have the daemon exec() itself instead
[09:14] <HungryMan> http://pastebin.com/d2iZ2vUM
[09:14] <geirha> progre55: Or fix the bug that requires it to restart in the first place
[09:14] <progre55> geirha, how should it exec() itself? the restart function just stops it and starts it again
[09:15] <geirha> progre55: What language is it written in?
[09:15] <cromag> hi, im trying to compile drivers for an LSI controller but i run into problems - i have created http://nopaste.dk/p13165 with some information, which i hope can help you, to help me :)
[09:15] <geirha> progre55: You certainly don't want the daemon to do anything with the init script
[09:16] <progre55> geirha: the deamon itself is a matlab compiled executable. the script is written in sh (or shell?)
[09:16] <usr13_> HungryMan: I do not understand the step to "disable the local resolver"
[09:17] <HungryMan> I think I may have been missing a parameter in rc.local
[09:18] <geirha> progre55: Ok, can't your matlab program just reset all its variables and such, then restart?
[09:18] <HungryMan> would i put "restart" in rc.local or "exec"
[09:18] <HungryMan> i guess ill find out in a second, brb
[09:18] <geirha> progre55: I mean, start over, without actually replacing itself or stopping and starting a new instance
[09:18] <progre55> geirha: it probably could, but I'm not responsible for the matlab code, and our matlab developer is a little stubborn =)
[09:19] <geirha> progre55: your matlab developer is a sysadmin's nightmare
[09:19] <supasnashbuhl> Hello, i need some help fixing a broken system update. It's my dad's pc which i upgraded to the latest ubuntu version (i'm an arch user myself, so i don't know which release this is) and, well the battery died during the update. And it seems that uml-utilities are causing some trouble. Maybe you can help me through this.
[09:20] <progre55> geirha: I know :) he just runs a bash command saying "service script_name restart" and doesnt want to change his code anymore..
[09:20] <HungryMan> eh exec didn't restart it
[09:20] <usr13_> HungryMan: I do not understand the step to "disable the local resolver" Because you never had dns=dnsmasq in NetworkManager.conf in the first place.
[09:20] <geirha> progre55: Well, you've already discovered why that won't work...
[09:21] <HungryMan> yeah I'd disabled it myself
[09:21] <HungryMan> a while back
[09:21] <usr13_> o
[09:22] <progre55> geirha: couldn't I start a new thread or something on a restart, so that when the matlab deamon is killed, the thread is still running and starts it back? I'm not really a sysadmin myself, just a java developer doing a sysadmin's work :)
[09:22]  * tMH is gone. nsf
[09:22] <usr13_> HungryMan: What did you have in there to start with?  (in rc.local)
[09:23] <geirha> progre55: You can background and disown it, but it may still randomly fail
[09:23] <HungryMan> nothing related at all
[09:23] <[diablo]> ubuntu@melanibarry.com
[09:23] <andrewh192> Hey, I recently installed a drive into the computer that was orginally connected via usb...
[09:23] <HungryMan> creating a directory in ram basically
[09:23] <[diablo]> erm
[09:23] <HungryMan> that's all
[09:23] <[diablo]> damn it, sorry
[09:23] <supasnashbuhl> please? I'm happy to provide any additional info if you ask me to.
[09:23] <keirlav87> I've installed Ubuntu to D:/ - but accidentally not as a Dual Boot Install (as far as I can tell) - I can still see all of my windows folders on C:\  - is there a way to make the install dual boot, post installation?
[09:23] <andrewh192> I am having trouble locating it now, was wondering if it was because of some error on my part, or if i am just not looking in the right area for it
[09:24] <compdoc> megaraid_sas is part of mainstream Linux kernel and should be available in all current distributions
[09:24] <usr13_> HungryMan: No, I mean the line to start dnsscrypt
[09:24] <supasnashbuhl> kerilav87: muahhaha. It's better that way. :)
[09:24] <calin> hello
[09:24] <HungryMan> I wasn't using any line in rc.local to start it up
[09:24] <progre55> geirha: so I could write another script (a wrapper script around the deamon), and on restart, background it, right?
[09:24] <usr13_> HungryMan: I thought you tried it?
[09:24] <andrewh192> nevermind
[09:24] <andrewh192> gotit
[09:24] <HungryMan> it starts up throuhg the init.d or whatever, my rc.local wasn't used for it
[09:24] <HungryMan> oh
[09:24] <HungryMan> Yeah I just did
[09:24] <calin> how can i install xfce4 core without applications (after i will install terminator and so on)
[09:24] <HungryMan> exec "/usr/sbin/dnscrypt-proxy -a 127.0.0.2 --edns-payload-size=4096 --pidfile=/run/dnscrypt-proxy.pid --resolver-port=443 --local-port=53 --tcp-only --user=dnscrypt"
[09:25] <HungryMan> ill pastebin that next time
[09:25] <usr13_> HungryMan: Just use  /usr/sbin/dnscrypt-proxy --daemonize
[09:25] <HungryMan> that won't work, it'll default to 127.0.0.1, which doesn't work for me, trust me I've tried switching to it
[09:26] <cfhowlett> keirlav87: does windows boot?
[09:26] <supasnashbuhl> kerilav87: no but jokes aside, you can fix it by restoring the mbr with a windows installation cd. google "restore mbr windows". But on the other hand, why would you..? :)
[09:26] <keirlav87> cfhowlett: that's what i'm trying to figure out :P
[09:26] <HungryMan> i  can add the parameter for 127.0.0.2
[09:26] <HungryMan> brb
[09:26] <keirlav87> actually to be fair i'm quite happy with what i'm seeing at the moment
[09:26] <cfhowlett> keirlav87: reboot.  if you get the grub menu, choose windows ...
[09:27] <usr13_> HungryMan: pastebinit /usr/sbin/dynscrypt-proxy
[09:27] <keirlav87> it's just this is my work machine and i'm not sure whether Ubuntu will fit into our AD network ? :O
[09:27] <geirha> progre55: He even hardcoded that command in the code?
[09:27] <supasnashbuhl> keirlav87: might be that the grub timeout or whatchacallit is set to 0 or something..
[09:27] <keirlav87> cfhowlett: i'll try that now, thanks
[09:27] <usr13_> HiddenKnowledge: ls -l /usr/sbin/dynscrypt-proxy  #Show me...
[09:27] <HungryMan> ok well it didn't break anything but i dont know if it did anything
[09:28] <HungryMan> still unconfined - I think I need ot disable the init.d script first
[09:28] <supasnashbuhl> but guys.. please i really need help with that interrupted update..
[09:28] <HungryMan> how can I do that? just move it out of that folder?
[09:28] <keirlav87> brb guys thanks for the advice
[09:29] <tux_king> hi
[09:30] <progre55> geirha: yep :)
[09:30] <progre55> geirha: but I could talk him into changing it a little, if necessary. But not into resetting all the matlab variables, etc.
[09:30] <usr13_> supasnashbuhl: What happened?
[09:30] <supasnashbuhl> battery died
[09:31] <usr13_> supasnashbuhl: That's bad.  I really don't know. That is a tough one.
[09:31] <lukicat> hey, may some1 assist me to remove crazy flickering of an intel gma500 on ubuntu 12.04? =/
[09:31] <supasnashbuhl> but i'm onto it.. i just removed uml-utilities and reinstalled. (it was having some problems before)
[09:32] <geirha> progre55: Most languages has a wrapper for the exec system call. I don't know if matlab has that, but if it does, that'll be a much saner thing to do.
[09:32] <usr13_> supasnashbuhl: It wasn't a distribution upgrade was it?
[09:32] <supasnashbuhl> yupp
[09:32] <usr13_> supasnashbuhl:  It was?...
[09:32] <usr13_> wow
[09:32] <supasnashbuhl> god i love arch for that..
[09:32] <usr13_> arch?
[09:32] <supasnashbuhl> rolling release is a bliss
[09:32] <keirlav87> ah yeah the dual boot option is available on restart, thanks for the advice guys
[09:32] <supasnashbuhl> archlinux
[09:32] <progre55> geirha: arright, let me try googling to see if there's anything like that for matlab
[09:33] <HungryMan> i tried update-rc.d dnscrypt-proxy remove
[09:33] <usr13_> supasnashbuhl: You will probably need to re-install.
[09:33] <HungryMan> it's still starting up at boot
[09:33] <RoSSoScript113> salve
[09:33] <supasnashbuhl> if you're familiar with linux in general arch linux is the way to go. My dad's a complete n00b who can't use a single terminal command so ubuntu was the best option i guess
[09:33] <RoSSoScript113> !lista
[09:34] <supasnashbuhl> well, i still have hope.. apt-get upgrade is running now.. let's see what happens
[09:34] <usr13_> HungryMan: I would just start over.  Follow the instructions just ast they are and see where it went wrong.
[09:34] <HungryMan> yeah it's late now, I'll give it a shot tomorrow
[09:34] <HungryMan> things for the help though
[09:34] <usr13_> ok
[09:34] <HungryMan> night/morning/whichever it is for you
[09:35] <usr13_> morning...
[09:36] <lukicat> anyone knows how to solve flickering of ubuntu 12.04 on intel gma500?
[09:36] <tux_king> hi
[09:37] <amagee> hey i installed ubuntu 12.04 on a new machine last night and it installed successfully  but didn't seem to affect the boot loader (when i boot it always boots to windows without asking) so i need to somehow install grub manually.  i'm currently logged into the live cd ubuntu.  can anyone help?
[09:38] <usr13_>  amagee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[09:38] <amagee> also can anyone explain why i can't seem to find a dvorak layout in "keyboard layouts"
[09:38] <supasnashbuhl> AND arch linux has like the best wiki on earth, and the coolest irc channel :P Topic is: "Arch linux world domination". :D If you haven't heard of it, google it, it's awesome. The concept of a rolling release is just so great. AND there is AUR (a community repo for like every program you could imagine running on linux) No more ./configure make make install. Lol i sound like someone trying to convert people to my religion. But serio
[09:39] <DJones> supasnashbuhl: Don't spam
[09:39] <supasnashbuhl> :P
[09:39] <supasnashbuhl> I don't get paid
[09:39] <amagee> there are only four layouts: english {US|Cameroon|UK|Ghana}
[09:39] <cfhowlett> supasnashbuhl: thanks but this is ubuntu support.  Perhaps you'd like to try a different channel?
[09:39] <usr13_> amagee: You probably did not tell it to install the bootloader to the MBR of the primary drive.
[09:39] <kaoruchan> hi guys im a newbie here. can i ask something ?
[09:39] <supasnashbuhl> you're right i'm trailing off
[09:39] <supasnashbuhl> kaoruchan: ask
[09:39] <cfhowlett> !ask|kaoruchan:
[09:40] <usr13_> kaoruchan: Short answer is;  Yes
[09:41] <keirlav87> can anyone recommend a good ubuntu alternative for notepad++?
[09:41] <supasnashbuhl> gedit
[09:41] <kaoruchan> how to reboot or shutdown properly? seems like i cant shutdown or reboot
[09:41] <supasnashbuhl> emacs
[09:41] <kaoruchan> sorry.. just being so polite :D
[09:41] <fidel_> keirlav87: depends - personaly i love sublime text - but it comes with a pretty special license situation ;)
[09:42] <Kyle|PowerPC> kaoruchan, reboot
[09:42] <Kyle|PowerPC> or halt
[09:42] <kaoruchan> Usr1_ hehe
[09:42] <fidel_> kaoruchan: the question is: how do you try to reboot in the first place?
[09:42] <rajumoh> kaoruchan: if every thing else fails #init 0 to halt and #init 6 to reboot
[09:42] <usr13_> kaoruchan: what seems to be the problem?
[09:42] <supasnashbuhl> keirlav87 have you tried gedit already. It has some syntax highlighting.
[09:43] <usr13_> supasnashbuhl: vi
[09:43] <supasnashbuhl> usr13: nope.. emacs :)
[09:43] <morsnowski> keirlav87, geany is nice
[09:43] <usr13_> supasnashbuhl: Maybe you need to tell us what you want to do.
[09:43] <usr13_> supasnashbuhl: I use vim
[09:44] <supasnashbuhl> huh? I'm just suggesting editors for keirlav87
[09:44] <usr13_> mostly
[09:44] <usr13_> Oh... wrong nic?
[09:44] <morsnowski> no i screwed up
[09:44] <keirlav87> I tried gedit, acouple of little things nag me, like curly brace and bracket highlighting etc, only tiny things but when you're looking for that stray brace it's a godsend :P
[09:45] <usr13_> keirlav87: vim
[09:45] <morsnowski> now i'm confused ...
[09:45]  * morsnowski goes back to slee
[09:45] <morsnowski> sleep
[09:45] <usr13_> keirlav87: vi
[09:46] <kaoruchan> thanks ill try that
[09:46] <kaoruchan> Fidel_ the usual way.. on the top.. i using 12.04.. and a year ago i used 10.04 seems no problem to me.. but now im getting a hard time to rebot or shutting down. coz it takes forever
[09:47] <fidel_> kaoruchan: using the top tells amlost nothing - as it depends on your envvironment - i.e. using kde or gnome or ....
[09:47] <fidel_> kaoruchan: in addition: is there any error output - or does just nothing happen
[09:47] <usr13_> keirlav87: vimtutor  #To learn...
[09:47] <fidel_> try to describe your issue better - otherwise we need to ask - and asking to offer help isnt perfect ;)
[09:47] <amagee> Boot repair app: "Please  open a terminal and type the following commands"... isn't that what i installed this app for? :S
[09:49] <usr13_> keirlav87: Two or three half hour sessions with vimtutor and you'll be off and running.
[09:49] <geirha> keirlav87: vim has a steep learning curve. I find this explains how you get into vim fairly well http://rudism.com/s/vimcreep
[09:50] <usr13_> keirlav87: Try it.  You'll be glad you did.
[09:50] <kaoruchan> sry fidel. im using gnome
[09:50] <amagee> i've traditionally been a vim user but i'm slowly moving to emacs + evil
[09:50] <usr13_> amagee: really...?
[09:51] <keirlav87> will do guys, thanks :)
[09:51] <kaoruchan> fidel it does shutdown but pausing on the spash screen of ubuntu
[09:51] <amagee> gives the best of both worlds -- vim key bindings and modal editing with emacs power and scriptability
[09:52] <MonkeyDust> kaoruchan  type sudo shutdown -h now    the next time it will shutdown as it should be
[09:53] <amagee> ok rebooting now, wish me luck! thanks for your help :)
[09:53] <RoSSoScript113> salve
[09:53] <RoSSoScript113> !lista
[09:53] <antivenom_02> kaoruchan halt command is not exactly for shutting down the system
[09:54] <keirlav87> Am I cut out for Vim, I can't even figure out how to install it lol
[09:54] <geirha> keirlav87: sudo apt-get install vim-gnome
[09:55] <supasnashbuhl> keirlav87: no just do sudo apt-get install emacs
[09:55] <supasnashbuhl> ;)
[09:56] <RoSSoScript113> salve
[09:56] <himanshu_m786> is there any bot ?
[09:56] <RoSSoScript113> !lista
[09:56] <keirlav87> lol, I apologies for asking for the baby steps, but i've only had ubuntu on my machine for about half an hour - where do I need to put that command?
[09:56] <supasnashbuhl> the learning curve for emacs isn't as steep as with vim. But this is possibly a very important desicion. It's either vim or emacs, there's no inbetween.
[09:56] <LinuxVertigo> isn't it strange that Modern Warfare 3 is installing seemingly fine straight from an .exe file as opposed to Wine?
[09:56] <supasnashbuhl> wtf coprophagiac???
[09:56] <amagee> hey thanks guys.. my grub is working now :D
[09:56] <LinuxVertigo> well  hail Mary
[09:56] <joosengee> How to block mac-address of pc to not get ip from dhcp server?
[09:57] <keirlav87> ah its ok i found the terminal
[09:57] <supasnashbuhl> Why isnt that guy banned from like every irc channel on earth
[09:57] <joosengee> Have the method or not?
[09:57] <joosengee> someone have the method or not ?
[09:57] <LinuxVertigo> can ubuntu generally run .exe files?
[09:58] <MonkeyDust> LinuxVertigo  nu, exe is for some other OS
[09:58] <joosengee> please
[09:58] <himanshu_m786> wine can run exe file
[09:58] <supasnashbuhl> please someone ban that guy. I'm not black but i still feel offendet
[09:58] <keirlav87> does anyone find dual screen sticks on the left hand edge of the right screen?
[09:58] <supasnashbuhl> *offended
[09:58] <compdoc> which guy offends you?
[09:58] <LinuxVertigo> maybe it's integrated (wine) as I just ran setup.exe and it seems fine
[09:58] <supasnashbuhl> coprophagiac
[09:59] <susundberg> LinuxVertigo: Yes you can run them but you need 'windows emulator' wine
[09:59] <supasnashbuhl> check his status
[09:59] <compdoc> oh, heh
[09:59] <MonkeyDust> supasnashbuhl  no swearing here
[09:59] <supasnashbuhl> who swears?
[09:59] <supasnashbuhl> i'm not
[09:59] <MonkeyDust> supasnashbuhl  that word you used
[09:59] <keirlav87> wtf?
[09:59] <supasnashbuhl> what word??
[09:59] <supasnashbuhl> lol
[09:59] <kaoruchan> sry was discnnected
[09:59] <LinuxVertigo> I have a device named Hare Krsna and it's going to program Windows for me
[09:59] <supasnashbuhl> that's an abbrevation
[09:59] <LjL> MonkeyDust: it was a nickname
[09:59] <LjL> supasnashbuhl: they're already banned
[10:00] <supasnashbuhl> ok cool
[10:00] <supasnashbuhl> people like that make me sick.
[10:00] <himanshu_m786> LinuxVertigo : what does it do ?
[10:01] <LinuxVertigo> it collapses system mainframes into one style
[10:01] <supasnashbuhl> oh well the upgrade went well after all. (after reinstalling uml-utilities) I'll reboot now. Byebye
[10:01] <joosengee> help me!!!
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> joosengee: wassup?
[10:02] <LinuxVertigo> you have one chance
[10:02] <LinuxVertigo> I have to stop i'm going to get banned
[10:02] <cfhowlett> joosengee: hmm.  Most people try "Hello."  first
[10:02] <kaoruchan> fidel_ i was dc'd ..again uusing 12.04 ubuntu gnome. having a proble on shutdown that causing the splash screen to hang.. then dont do shutdown.. i always push the pwer button just to shut down
[10:02] <joosengee> I need to block the mac address not get ip from server.
[10:03] <joosengee> dhap ?
[10:03] <MonkeyDust> kaoruchan  have you tried 'sudo shutdown -h now' ?
[10:03] <andrewh192> hey, was wondering when i go to "network drives", in the "Go" menu, my other computer on the same network doesn't show up, and was wondering whu
[10:03] <andrewh192> why
[10:03] <himanshu_m786> kaoruchan :  i too had problem with the gnome . it disturbes the unity .
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> andrewh192: are they sharing with samba?
[10:04] <himanshu_m786> kaoruchan :  have you tried the sudo shutdown now in terminal or shell
[10:04] <andrewh192> ActionParsnip: well, i don't know, i am using whatever it is that is installed on the computer already
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> andrewh192: if you run:  smbtree    do you see the shares?
[10:04] <andrewh192> ActionParsnip: i haven't tried that
[10:05] <andrewh192> i don't have that...
[10:05] <himanshu_m786> i have any one used fogger ?
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> himanshu_m786: I know of it, looks fairly pointless
[10:05] <andrewh192> ActionParsnip: it says that "Failed to execute child process"
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> andrewh192: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[10:06] <himanshu_m786> ActionParsnip : tough user will say it pointless but it is nice and for normal user .
[10:07] <himanshu_m786> ActionParsnip : means for new user .
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> himanshu_m786: you can do what it does already with web apps in Chrome/ium
[10:07] <andrewh192> ActionParsnip: precise
[10:08] <andrewh192> ActionParsnip: its actually the lubuntu 12.04 distribution
[10:08] <andrewh192> ActionParsnip: not sure if that makes any difference, but just thought i would mention in case it does
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> andrewh192: good enough. Lubuntu rocks :)
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> andrewh192: can you ping the server by name and/or IP?
[10:08] <himanshu_m786> ActionParsnip : you know ,chromium takes much of ram for work . but it is innovative work .
[10:09] <andrewh192> ActionParsnip: what server?
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> himanshu_m786: never had an issue with RAM in Chromium
[10:09] <andrewh192> ActionParsnip: i mean any server, or one in particular?
[10:09] <himanshu_m786> ActionParsnip : me too . i mean to say that chrome uses much of ram .
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> himanshu_m786: RAM is cheap now
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> andrewh192: the server you want to connect to. Can you ping it from the client system
[10:11] <Bert_2> Hi, is there a way to upgrade from 6.06 or 8.04 to 12.04 or will we have to hop by all LTSes (upgrade in LTS steps) ?
[10:11] <himanshu_m786> ActionParsnip : i want to ask that right now it is available for facebook and wunderlist . can i modify for others too ?
[10:11] <andrewh192> ActionParsnip: well, i don't have a "server" persay, just have one other computer i would like to share files with
[10:11] <himanshu_m786> ActionParsnip : with logo too
[10:11] <cfhowlett> berkes: LTS to LTS.
[10:12] <berkes> huh?
[10:12] <himanshu_m786> andrewh192 : for sharing files ? use samba ..
[10:12] <andrewh192> ActionParsnip: ok, i have to install it, or isn't already installed?
[10:13] <berkes> cfhowlett, guess that was for Bert_2, not?
[10:13] <cfhowlett> berkes: yikes.  autocomplete nick error.  sorry
[10:13] <cfhowlett> Bert_2: LTS to LTS hop should work.
[10:14] <noxville> Hello, I have just added another monitor to my desktop (I had 2 - one broke, replaced by this new one). Both are LG's, one's a LED, one's a normal flatron LCD. I've configured both via nvidia-settings to make them both 1920x1200 (supported according to each monitors specs). I restart X (via service gdm restart), but when I login again, the top bar on one monitor (which I'd have the time, user panel, etc) starts flickering, and fails to load. Icons don
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> andrewh192: sudo apt-get install smbclient   should do it
[10:15] <andrewh192> ActionParsnip: ok, kewl, thanx
[10:15] <Bert_2> cfhowlett: thx, I guess our firewall server is getting a fresh install then (hops from 6.06 seem a bit daft)
[10:15] <LinuxVertigo> I just made xchat fullscreen how do i undo this?
[10:16] <Hertz> LinuxVertigo, F11?
[10:16] <LinuxVertigo> ty
[10:16] <cfhowlett> Bert_2: good luck.
[10:16] <himanshu_m786> ActionParsnip :
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> himanshu_m786: no idea, as I said; I've only heard of it. I don't use it
[10:17] <himanshu_m786> ActionParsnip : ok
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> himanshu_m786: I'd contact the developer
[10:19] <ikonia> exit
[10:19] <ikonia> oops
[10:19] <ikonia> sorry
[10:20] <SimonUK> Hi.  Is there a difference between running apt-get install lamp-server, and tasksel install lamp-server  ?
[10:21] <Chimpout> Are you all really sick of those god damn feral negro beasts.  Damn niggers right?
[10:21] <Chimpout> I am too!
[10:21] <FloodBot1> Chimpout: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:21] <btral1> hi
[10:22] <btral1> please see my linkhttp://pastebin.com/1pMTExsY.
[10:22] <btral1> how change my pidfile name
[10:22] <LinuxVertigo> how do i minimize xchat? I can't see the button at the top of the screen
[10:22] <hazamonzo_> Hey folks. Just installed a wireless PCI card. The card has been picked up but it can't find any networks. How might i go about getting the latest driver for this network card?
[10:22] <hazamonzo_> I used a much older PCI wireless card in this desktop and it worked. maybe this new wireless card is using the driver for th old card?
[10:23] <Hertz> LinuxVertigo, :D
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> hazamonzo_: what wifi chip does it use?
[10:24] <LinuxVertigo> this does not complete me
[10:24] <hazamonzo_> ActionParsnip: hey man. How can i tell?
[10:24] <LinuxVertigo> i was doing it earlier when there was a button
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> hazamonzo_: sudo lshw -C network    will tell you
[10:25] <geirha> LinuxVertigo: If it's maximized, the buttons will be on the left side of the menu bar at the top
[10:26] <hazamonzo_> ActionParsnip: PCI (sysfs)
[10:26] <LinuxVertigo> geirha they were there earlier now theres a label "XChat-Gnome IRC Chat" in the way
[10:26] <hazamonzo_> hmm
[10:26] <hazamonzo_> wait. lots of stuff
[10:26] <geirha> LinuxVertigo: It should change when you hover the mouse over it
[10:26] <hazamonzo_> ActionParsnip: Full output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1106183/
[10:27] <LinuxVertigo> geirha it does change except the XChat part which is covering the buttons
[10:27] <LinuxVertigo> I was doing it earlier no problems
[10:28] <hazamonzo_> ActionParsnip: Its Network 0
[10:28] <LinuxVertigo> wth now terminal doesn't even have a title bar
[10:28] <LinuxVertigo> please help
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> hazamonzo_: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[10:29] <hazamonzo_> ActionParsnip: natty
[10:30] <MonkeyDust> is natty supported?
[10:30] <keirlav87> so i installed vim using the sudo command in terminal, where will I find this elusive creature now :P?
[10:30] <Porchmonkeys> I am fucking sick and tired of those god damn niggers
[10:30] <Porchmonkeys> they are the scourge of humanity
[10:30] <Porchmonkeys> that is why I am a member of a special forum callec Chimpout Forum
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> hazamonzo_: have you tried it in Precise liveCD? Natty is nearly EOL (October this year)
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> keirlav87: just type it's name and hit enter
[10:31] <LinuxVertigo> where are my title bars gone?
[10:31] <hazamonzo_> ActionParsnip: not yet. But i have a copy. I'll give it a try
[10:31] <Wug> DJones: out of curiosity
[10:31] <hazamonzo_> ActionParsnip: thanks for the help. I jave to run :(
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> hazamonzo_: the later kernel may make it work out of the box
[10:32] <Wug> or are you a bot
[10:32] <Wug> can never be sure
[10:32] <DJones> Wug: Nope, not a bot :)
[10:32] <Wug> silly freenode mentality
[10:32] <Wug> why don't you just use chanserv for everything
[10:32] <keirlav87> looks pretty intense :P wheres my nice cosy gui that does everything for me ?
[10:33] <Wug> .......
[10:33] <Wug> freenode is such a backwards place
[10:33] <Wug> (I understand why now)
[10:34] <morsnowski> keirlav87, i still suggest geany ...
[10:34] <Myrtti> Wug: why would we use chanserv for everything?
[10:34] <Wug> well
[10:34] <Myrtti> Wug: nevermind, it's not a discussion to be had here anyway
[10:34] <Wug> typical freenode practice is to never have ops anywhere
[10:35] <Myrtti> Wug: feel free to continue it in #ubuntu-ops or -irc
[10:35] <keirlav87> I think that may be best at this point, I don't think justifying the learning curve that vim clearly demands will go down well with my boss
[10:35] <Wug> its not really specific to this channe;
[10:35] <Wug> I'm more or less making itle chatter
[10:35] <DJones> Wug: Can you leave this channel for support questions, rather than chat, Thanks
[10:35] <PsychoX75> Hi guys. I'm looking for a Music Jukebox which I can instal on my ubuntu server and approach it from a web-interface.
[10:35] <Myrtti> Wug: and this channel is not for idle chatter, so please move it to said channels
[10:35] <Wug> ack
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> PsychoX75: vlc has a nice webui
[10:36] <PsychoX75> vlc u say?
[10:36] <PsychoX75> i have that installed on my machine already
[10:36] <SimonUK> PsychoX75 do you want the audio to come from the server or the browser?  Personally I use Serviio or TwonkyMedia as DLNA servers.
[10:36] <PsychoX75> oh... the audio has to come from the server.
[10:37] <PsychoX75> What i'm thinking off... is to make my Homeserver a Home-jukebox.
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> PsychoX75: or just run graphical apps using X forwarding, the sound will come from the server, but the display will show on the client
[10:37] <PsychoX75> Play music throughout Wireless Speakers in the hosue.
[10:37] <PsychoX75> Xforwarding?
[10:37] <Guest85560> hello. today i installed 12.04 on my laptop and wanted to play some games on facebook, but they don't work... they are 'wooga' games like 'diamond dash'. on 11.10 they worked
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> PsychoX75: yes, it's default enabled in openssh-server
[10:38] <PsychoX75> I dont want to install anything on the clinets. Just a webbased.
[10:38] <SimonUK> PsychoX75 ah OK, DLNA not quite so appropriate.  You want something like... actually, ActionParsnip is already ahead of me :)
[10:38] <Guest85560> hello. today i installed 12.04 on my laptop and wanted to play some games on facebook, but they don't work... they are 'wooga' games like 'diamond dash'. on 11.10 they worked
[10:38] <PsychoX75> ah
[10:38] <ScottHarrison> Guest85560, have you installed flash, or whatever plugin they require?
[10:38] <PsychoX75> *thinking*
[10:39] <PsychoX75> lemme go sniff VLC
[10:39] <Myrtti> PsychoX75: has anyone suggested mpd yet?
[10:39] <PsychoX75> mpd?
[10:39] <PsychoX75> wa's that?
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> PsychoX75: if you connect with:  ssh -C -X username@host    you can launch graphical apps and they will display no the client system
[10:39] <PsychoX75> oh
[10:39] <PsychoX75> i'm looking for fully webbased
[10:39] <LinuxVertigo> can someone please help me get my title bars back
[10:39] <SimonUK> ActionParsnip just answered a question I didn't know I needed answered.
[10:39] <PsychoX75> cuz i want to control it with my Mobiles and Ipads through Wifi
[10:40] <Myrtti> PsychoX75: mpd can have a web interface
[10:40] <Guest85560> ScottHarrison: i did. i tried adobe, gnash and light spark. the strange thing is that i can run other flash games
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> PsychoX75: xbmc and vlc have web uis you can connect to#
[10:40] <keirlav87> what does it mean if i get error message 'could not open lock file var/lib/dpkg/lock - open - I mean i know it means couldnt open a file, but why not?
[10:40] <ScottHarrison> keirlav87, it's already open somewhere else... something else is using it.
[10:40] <PsychoX75> checking VLC now
[10:40] <Guest85560> 'wooga' games just load 50% or 100% and stop there
[10:40] <SimonUK> PsychoX75 xbmc was what I was going to suggest too.
[10:41] <keirlav87> ScottHarrison: how can i determine what?
[10:41] <PsychoX75> hmm...
[10:41] <ScottHarrison> Guest85560, have you got any error message? does it display anything, or is it just a blank screen?
[10:41] <PsychoX75> i tend to check what i have 'inhouse' before installing new things.
[10:41] <PsychoX75> if VLC has it.. i'd prefer VLC.
[10:41] <ScottHarrison> keirlav87, what are you trying to do when it displays the error?
[10:41] <keirlav87> install geany
[10:41] <dwakar> keirlav87: may be installing something via apt-get or software center
[10:42] <ScottHarrison> keirlav87, you may have an install already running, or two different installation apps running. software center & synpatic.
[10:43] <Guest85560> ScottHarrison: no error message, no blank screen. it begins to load like usuall. but then thay stop. even after 10 minutes nothing happens
[10:43] <Guest85560> *they
[10:44] <ScottHarrison> Guest85560, sorry, I'm not sure and I'm not willing to let one of those games collect data about me in order to test it for you. Try posting on ubuntuforums.org, you may find someone that plays fb games.
[10:45] <keirlav87> is there a way to see what processes are running so i can kill whatevers blocking geany?
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> keirlav87  ps -e
[10:46] <Guest85560> ScottHarrison: ok. thanks for the help
[10:46] <keirlav87> thanks :)
[10:46] <Mattias> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen#During_installation_of_Ubuntu <-- I was reading this, and now I wonder, does xen not make vm images? Because ubuntu host is already installed and is using all diskspace already.
[10:48] <cromag> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12124320 - LSI sas controller compile problem. Any info, pointers, help is appriciated.
[10:49] <Guest85560> has anyone else an idea?
[10:49] <mustu> hi my Ubuntu 12.04 is shoing cpu load of 3 in TOP but no process is being in TOP details which is consumign CPU
[10:53] <c_smith> is this the proper place to ask about shell scripting questions in Ubuntu?
[10:53] <Wug> you can ask about that here, yes
[10:54] <Wug> another great resource for the purpose would be stackoverflow.com
[10:54] <mustu> any clue? my TOP is showing constant load avg upto 3.x but no process is in top details which is takign up the CPU.. .. any clue?
[10:54] <c_smith> would there be a way I can get a shell script to take an input file I drag onto it and run the commands within?
[10:55] <rudivs> is there some kind of sandbox in ubuntu that will identify mouse button events?
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> mustu: well, the OS is running so will use some CPU just idling..
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> rudivs: xev   will show mouse events
[10:55] <rudivs> thanks ActionParsnip
[10:56] <netw0rm> hi
[10:59] <Stevo> Hello?
[10:59] <Stevo> Is this the right place for Ubuntu 12.04 assistance?
[10:59] <fabiano> Hello guys!
[11:00] <DJones> Stevo: It is
[11:00] <Stevo> Great
[11:00] <fabiano> Stevo, here.
[11:00] <Stevo> I've always used Windows up untill today, just installed 12.04 today
[11:00] <Stevo> I dont know how to install opera webbroswer
[11:00] <fabiano> Need help to uninstall samba of my machine and then upgrade it.
[11:01] <Stevo> in the software centre I can see it has been installed but i dont know how to open it?
[11:02] <DarsVaeda> hi, I try to setup a localhost subdomain with this tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocalhostSubdomain -> this works except I want/did setup so that foo.localhost will take me to /var/www/foo  but iinstead it takes me to /var/www/
[11:03] <DarsVaeda> http://pastebin.com/nivVzf30 here is my virtualhost setting
[11:03] <fabiano> Stevo, what Ubuntu version are you using?
[11:03] <Stevo> 12.04
[11:04] <InstantKrimson> Stevo: click the "ubuntu" buttom on your top left and start writing "opera"?
[11:04] <fabiano> Stevo, you need to use the launcher
[11:05] <netw0rm> I use 1w
[11:05] <Stevo> I think I might be in luck, thanks guys
[11:05] <netw0rm> I use 12.04 too.
[11:06] <noxville> Hello, I have just added another monitor to my desktop (I had 2 - one broke, replaced by this new one). Both are LG's, one's a LED, one's a normal flatron LCD. I've configured both via nvidia-settings to make them both 1920x1200 (supported according to each monitors specs). I restart X (via service gdm restart), but when I login again, the top bar on one monitor (which I'd have the time, user panel, etc) starts flickering, and fails to load. Icons don
[11:06] <LinuxVertigo> can someone help me please, all the title bars of my windows are missing
[11:06] <Stevo> Ubuntu will take a lot of getting used to but it's a good challenge coming from only Windows
[11:07] <netw0rm> I think u should in the terminal
[11:07] <LinuxVertigo> i'm using linux now because I put myself on a guilt trip for piracy
[11:07] <fabiano> DarsVaeda, Better if you go to #apache
[11:07] <LinuxVertigo> looking forward to legit torrents and purchases
[11:07] <DarsVaeda> fabiano: okay
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> LinuxVertigo: lots of legit things use torrents
[11:09] <Stevethepirate> 'lo ActionParsnip
[11:09] <Stevethepirate> Long time.
[11:09] <LinuxVertigo> I like the looks of it
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate: howdy
[11:09] <Stevo> Thanks for your help so far guys. How do I remove the authenticize window where I have to type in my password. It comes up when I have to install things etc
[11:09] <fabiano> LinuxVertigo, if you use Linux it is hard to be using ilegit torrents as well
[11:10] <LinuxVertigo> any idea about this title bar dilemma?
[11:10] <fabiano> Stevo, better you don't
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> LinuxVertigo: log off and on, may help
[11:10] <LinuxVertigo> okay
[11:10] <LinuxVertigo> good idea
[11:10] <LinuxVertigo> brb
[11:10] <angs>  I have ubuntu 12.04 and windows 7 on my machine, is an anti-virus for ubuntu can detect virus on windows or do I need to install a special program to search virus for windows files (exe, dll, etc.)?
[11:11] <Stevo> how come? I'm the only person that users my laptop
[11:11] <elky> Until it gets stolen.
[11:11] <fabiano> angs, windows anti-virus should be installed on Windows
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> Stevo: its to stop things that run on your system from doing stuff you don't want
[11:11] <NewWorld> angs:  If you can't get into Windows to scan, use an AV boot up disc. you can get online
[11:12] <Stevethepirate> Hello, I have just added another monitor to my desktop (I had 2 - one broke, replaced by this new one). Both are LG's, one's a LED, one's a normal flatron LCD. I've configured both via nvidia-settings to make them both 1920x1200 (supported according to each monitors specs). I restart X (via service gdm restart), but when I login again, the top bar on one monitor (which I'd have the time, user panel, etc) starts flickering, and fails to load. Ico
[11:12] <angs> NewWorld: thanks
[11:12] <Stevo> But it's annoying. It's similar to Windows 7 telling you 'are you sure you want to do this or that' everytime you do something. You can turn this kind of thing off in win 7
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> angs: you can scan NTFS partitions using linux AV, you will be fine for viruses in Ubuntu as he only viruses are in labs
[11:13] <fabiano> Stevethepirate, are they same model?
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> Stevo: once you get the OS setup, the only time you will be asked for password is updates.
[11:13] <angs> ActionParsnip: thank you
[11:13] <fidel_> Stevo: security might annoy - but its relevant ;)
[11:13] <Stevethepirate> fabiano: no. One is the IPS235, one is the E2340T
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> !av | angs
[11:13] <NewWorld> Stevo:  ActionParsnip : but you need to supply password for quite a lot of things also. everytime root access is needed
[11:14] <fabiano> Stevethepirate, then probably one of the models don't support such resolution..
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> NewWorld  yes, that is called 'security'
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> NewWorld: yes for updates etc, once the OS is setup its rarely needed at all
[11:14] <Stevo> ok. Next Q is what the deal with Anti-virus software & ubuntu. I get the impression You dont need it
[11:14] <Stevethepirate> fabiano: They both support the resolution, and both monitors work when on Windows (at that resolution)
[11:14] <Alchimista> is there any good app for sistem monitor be presented on indicator tab on 12 lts?
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> Stevo: you don't, unless you run a file server with Windows clients or a mail server
[11:15] <NewWorld> Stevo:  mate, there's tonnes of info on this on the internet if you just search for it
[11:15] <Stevo> Oh ok, thanks
[11:15] <fabiano> Stevethepirate, don't you have any energy supply close to any of them?
[11:15] <Stevethepirate> fabiano: this is not an external factor. I boot into windows - they work; I boot into ubuntu, they don't.
[11:15] <MonkeyDust> Stevo  thanks to the password you hate, you don't need an anti-virus - not only the password, of course
[11:15] <fabiano> Stevethepirate, are the cables good?
[11:15] <fidel_> Stevo: in general - the most dangerous thing around pcs with any OS is the user. so even on windows - being an advanced user there isnt really a need for av-applications. same goes for linux - where the amount of malware overall might be much lower then on windows
[11:15] <Stevethepirate> The actual gnome top-bar is failing to render
[11:16] <fabiano> Stevethepirate, maybe the driver is corrupted.
[11:16] <fidel_> Stevo: so - yes i wouldnt install av-software on a linux client
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> Alchimista: http://www.noobslab.com/2012/02/install-indicator-multiload-in-ubuntu.html
[11:16] <Stevo> Sure is NW but I've just D/L the linux for the first time & need to get some things off my chest. I've download the 'getting started with ubuntu 12.04' .pdf so will go through all that when I get time
[11:17] <dragonwolf> worked like a charm
[11:18] <Shogoot> If i want a linux distro that i asicaly onely will have a uTorrent client and the posibility to log into the machine with remote desktop from a windoes machine. what distro should i install? as light weight as possible with a gui.
[11:18] <Stevethepirate> ActionParsnip: when you're done with your current issues, mind giving me a hand (since you've had a ~100% success rate with my previous issues :p)
[11:18] <logolas> how to change kde alt+F1  to superkey?
[11:18] <fidel_> Shogoot: asking such a question in a distri-specific channel might be critical ;)
[11:19] <Shogoot> fidel_, know of any channell with that sole purspose?
[11:19] <DoctorD90> Hi! What is different between Server and Cloid version???
[11:19] <Stevethepirate> Shogoot: try damn small linux.
[11:19] <DoctorD90> Cloud*
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate: ask away, the channel will reply if it can :)
[11:21] <NewWorld> logolas:  What is Alt+F1 a shortcut of?
[11:22] <Stevethepirate> ActionParsnip: Done so for a while, no reply. Then realised you were busy during each instance ;p
[11:22] <DoctorD90> Differences between server amd cloud version?
[11:22] <Stevethepirate> Hello, I have just added another monitor to my desktop (I had 2 - one broke, replaced by this new one). Both are LG's, one's a LED, one's a normal flatron LCD. I've configured both via nvidia-settings to make them both 1920x1200 (supported according to each monitors specs). I restart X (via service gdm restart), but when I login again, the top bar on one monitor (which I'd have the time, user panel, etc) starts flickering, and fails to load. Ico
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate: you may need an xorg.conf so you can add options
[11:24] <compdoc> someday, I might need a cloud version, but not today
[11:24] <Stevethepirate> ActionParsnip: nvidia-settings generates an xorg.conf
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> DoctorD90  if you know what a server is and does, read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC
[11:24] <logolas> NewWorld, this opens the main menu on kde
[11:24] <DoctorD90> Thx i read..
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate: not if you don't click the button tyo tell it to do so
[11:24] <NewWorld> logolas:  can you not remap to another key in the KDE control panel?
[11:25] <Shogoot> Stevethepirate, ill try that
[11:25] <Guest30683> If I have a window open showing mulitple folders & inside those folders are images is there a way I can get a preview of what's inside before opening the folder? Like how Windows does it
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate: there is the: Option          "AddARGBVisuals" "True"
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate: option as well as: Option          "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
[11:26] <Stevethepirate> ActionParsnip: so you're saying I should apply the new monitor setup, but not save the file?
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate: may help, add them in the section defining the video adapter
[11:27] <Laurenceb> hi
[11:27] <Guest30683> right now all I can see is a bunch of orange folders & cant get an idea of whats inside them
[11:27] <Laurenceb> ive got an issue with cpu use
[11:27] <Guest30683> without opening them
[11:27] <Laurenceb> system monitor is showning 65% use
[11:27] <Laurenceb> but top shown no processes using much cpu
[11:27] <Laurenceb> total from top is 1% use
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Laurenceb: what process is the highest use?
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> Laurenceb: is the system responsive?
[11:28] <Laurenceb> top
[11:28] <Laurenceb> no
[11:28] <Laurenceb> very slow
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> Guest30683  open the folder to see what's in it
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> Laurenceb: so top is using most cpu?
[11:28] <Laurenceb> yes
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> Laurenceb: then kill it off
[11:29] <Laurenceb> but im running it
[11:29] <NewWorld> Guest30683:  If Nautilus file explorer doesn't support that functionality, try to find another that will
[11:29] <Laurenceb> i run top and it is using the cpu
[11:29] <Laurenceb> and nothing else
[11:29] <Laurenceb> only system monitor is showing 65%
[11:29] <compdoc> Laurenceb, in system monitor, what process is using the cpu?
[11:30] <Laurenceb> IO wait?
[11:30] <Laurenceb> compoc: system monitor
[11:30] <compdoc> its using 65%?
[11:30] <Laurenceb> but when i open the system monitor window it shows 0.5% cpu use
[11:30] <compdoc> how many cores do you have?
[11:30] <Laurenceb> im pretty sure i have an io wait issue
[11:30] <Laurenceb> 2
[11:30] <Stevemav> Hello
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> !pm| DoctorD90
[11:31] <Laurenceb> i was working on usb device dev before this happened
[11:31] <netw0rm> hello？
[11:31] <NewWorld> netw0rm:  hello
[11:32] <Laurenceb> is there a way to uncover the bad process?
[11:32] <Stevemav> I'm having issues with Wine, it won't play sound at all, in the Audio section of the wine config there is nothing listed as a driver, while I know it needs to say  winealsa.drv
[11:33] <netw0rm> Do you use ubuntu server
[11:34] <netw0rm> ?
[11:34] <Stevemav> yes
[11:34] <Stevemav> wair
[11:34] <DoctorD90> Im looking for a server where run a znc and some bots(eggdrop/tcl), and maybe make some shell to my friends...what is better? Ubuntu server or clod
[11:34] <Stevemav> wait, not a server, just 12.04
[11:34] <Stevemav> sorry I'
[11:34] <Stevemav> I'm a newb
[11:34] <NewWorld> Laurenceb:  Try to see if it shows when you run "ps -eo pcpu,pid,user,args | sort -k 1 -r | head"
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> Stevemav: I'd ask in #winehq too
[11:35] <Stevemav> I have ActionParsnip, been a little help but no resolution yet
[11:35] <netw0rm> is it stable
[11:35] <Laurenceb>  2.7 29409 root     /usr/bin/X :0 -br -verbose -auth /var/run/gdm/auth-for-gdm-5KJZ6x/database -nolisten tcp
[11:35] <Stevemav> how do I test if it's stable?
[11:36] <netw0rm> I dont know
[11:36] <netw0rm> ...
[11:36] <netw0rm> i am sorry.
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> Stevemav: did you check the appdb for compatibility?
[11:37] <fabiano> How can I force a folder remove if I am having a permission issue?
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> fabiano: prefix the command with sudo
[11:37] <compdoc> you using sudo?
[11:38] <kaney> Could anyone point me in the right direction with a network problem please ?
[11:38] <fabiano> ActionParsnip, great, thank you!
[11:38] <NewWorld> kaney:  what is the problem?
[11:38] <compdoc> kaney, depends on the problem
[11:38] <kaney> thanks, 2 servers with 2 bonds working correctly, bond0 = 192.168.0.x, bond1 = 10.0.0.x.  I can ping the internet and each 192 addr but can not get it to route across bond1 for internal :
[11:39] <Stevemav> ActionParsnip It is supported
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Stevemav: did you try wine from the wine ppa?
[11:42] <Stevemav> i have wine 1.5.9
[11:42] <rudivs> is the viewport switcher in 12.04 managed by compiz or unity?
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> Stevemav: "run 'winecfg' go to the audio tab, unclick everything except alsa. on the bottom set sample rate to 48000 , hardware accel to full, and driver emulation is not clicked. now your results may vary but this did it for me and i once again get full sound in all steam programs." source: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=550785
[11:42] <joel1> how do i ssh to a a local network drive?
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> joel1: do you mean connect to sftp?
[11:43] <joel1> yes ActionParsnip
[11:43] <vmassuchetto> While building a package, how can I change it's version number and identification so I can track it on '/etc/apt/preferences.d/' ?
[11:43] <Stevemav> there's nothing to unclick, there's no selected driver and nothing in the drop down menu's in Audio
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> joel1  in nautilus or in terminal?
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> joel1: then you can use nautilus and connect just fine, you aren't technically sshing
[11:44] <joel1> terminal
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> joel1  basically ssh remote_user@remote_ip
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> Stevemav: http://i.stack.imgur.com/4jQqD.png   like that
[11:44] <joel1> hmm
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> !scp | joel1
[11:46] <glebihan> vmassuchetto, you might want to ask about that in #ubuntu-packaging
[11:46] <Stevethepirate> ActionParsnip: Well, tried with with no success - but using TwinView instead of separate X's works fine.
[11:46] <Stevethepirate> tx
[11:49] <joel1> "Server refused to allocate pty"
[11:49] <joel1> lajsdlasjdlaks
[11:50] <Stevemav> ActionParsnip http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb425/NixKing/Screenshotfrom2012-07-23214722.png
[11:50] <Stevemav> that's my screen now
[11:50] <joel1> what's pty and why did it refuse it?
[11:50] <ScottHarrison> can I filter "/list" results to only  show certain channels? Eg. "/list ubuntu" would only show results containing ubuntu.
[11:51] <Myrtti> ScottHarrison: use alis
[11:51] <Myrtti> !alis | ScottHarrison
[11:52] <vmassuchetto> glebihan, Thanks!
[11:52] <ScottHarrison> Myrtti, ty.
[11:52] <glebihan> vmassuchetto, you're welcome
[11:53] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:54] <Sebo> hi can you tell me the shell command which will create raw copy of entire USB flash drive (includding all partitions etc. And then how to restore it?
[11:54] <NewWorld> Sebo:  I think it's `dd`
[11:55] <prisma> baty
[11:56] <redactd> anyone fixed openssl 1.0.1 and postfix tls errors?
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> !anyone
[11:58] <tightwork> what a surprise ubuntu piece of shit wont suspend my laptop
[11:58] <NewWorld> tightwork:  What does `sudo pm-suspend` return?
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> tightwork  suspend works here, ok
[11:59] <ScottHarrison> tightwork, I always thought the computer did what we told it to? If it doesn't work, it's because we're missing something, or did something wrong.
[11:59] <Shogoot> argh... how do i restore MBR on grub 2? i got dual linux/windows. deleted linux and now grub dont find the windows partition.
[12:00] <MonkeyDust> tightwork  you're also free to not use ubuntu, if you don't like it
[12:00] <tightwork> NewWorld, goes into a half cracked out suspend, screen still on; fans still on
[12:01] <NewWorld> tightwork:  That's really weird... are you using the latest ubuntu?
[12:01] <tightwork> yep, 12.whatever LTS
[12:02] <tightwork> its basic things like this that we cant get right that drive me nuts
[12:02] <NewWorld> tightwork:  Pastebin `dmesg`
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> tightwork  that's called 'learning'
[12:03] <tightwork> when do we stop learning and actually do work and get things done?
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> tightwork  why use it, if you don't want to get familiar with it?
[12:04] <tightwork> its always different
[12:04] <redactd> tightwork, lol bad troll is bad
[12:04] <tightwork> theres no learning if basic functions change
[12:04] <the_dudez0r> Hi, anyone knows how to download content that's being  streamed? For instance youtube videos, soundcloud songs and that kind of thing
[12:04] <tightwork> redactd, yeah im a troll because im angry a basic function does not work
[12:04] <the_dudez0r> I'm asking for a linux solution ofc.
[12:05] <redactd> tightwork, suspend works for me :)
[12:05] <ScottHarrison> tightwork, you've come in asking for help with a serious attitude problem... that's why you're getting smartarse comments back.
[12:05] <rudivs> are the workspace switching shortcuts of 12.04 (Ctrl+Alt+arrow) set in unity or in compiz?
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> rudivs: could enable the cube :)
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> the_dudez0r: there are addons and extensions for browsers
[12:06] <NewWorld> I don't see all the hate. When I used Ubuntu for 2 years, so much crap was broken and didn't work out of the box as expected. Constantly had to spend hours fixing stuff, but I liked that
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> the_dudez0r: you can also use youtube_dl in cli to download youtube vids
[12:07] <rudivs> ActionParsnip, ah yes, the ol' cube :). I'm trying to map mouse buttons to switch workspaces, so maybe I'll have a look at that option.
[12:07] <redactd> NewWorld, totally, why would you use ubuntu or any linux distro if you didn't want to get your hands dirty?
[12:08] <NewWorld> redactd:  Ubuntu is not a power-user distro. Many users don't want to get their hands dirty
[12:08] <NewWorld> That's why they made it so user-friendly
[12:09] <bazhang> lets take the chat elsewhere please
[12:09] <NewWorld> sorry
[12:09] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[12:11] <kaney> Hi i have, 2 servers with 2 bonds working correctly, bond0 = 192.168.0.x > internet, bond1 = 10.0.0.x > internal.  I can ping the internet and each 192 addr but can not get 10.x route across bond1 for internal, any ideas anyone ?
[12:11] <Stevemav> ActionParsnip I think I've determined i need this sound resolution http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=20882
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[12:12] <DJones> !away > amily
[12:12] <bazhang> amily, disable that
[12:12] <Stevemav> however when i try to put the commands into the command line, it says: fatal repository not found
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> Stevemav  type sudo apt-get update
[12:15] <Stevemav> MonkeyDust I did, what next do you think?
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> Stevemav  what repo doesnt it find?
[12:16] <Stevemav>  git.alsa-project.org/alsa-plugins.git
[12:16] <Stevemav> MonkeyDust this one:  git.alsa-project.org/alsa-plugins.git
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> Stevemav  is that a ppa?
[12:17] <NewWorld> Stevemav:  Could you not set the alsa driver in wine's user config? In ~/.wine/user.reg I have a few lines like: "[Software\\Wine\\Drivers\\winealsa.drv\\devices\\0,default] 1341054409"
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> ah wine
[12:17] <Stevemav> it doens't exist
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> i missed that part
[12:18] <Stevemav> the alsa driver doesn't exist
[12:18] <Stevemav> in mine
[12:18] <NewWorld> Stevemav:  The file, winealsa.drv isn't on your system?
[12:18] <Stevemav> not as far as I can see
[12:18] <NewWorld> Stevemav:  Well how did you look for it?
[12:19] <Raven> tes
[12:20] <Stevemav> wine regedit in command line, went to HKEY_CURRENT_USER>Software>Wine> and there was no drivers folder.
[12:21] <NewWorld> Stevemav:  run `locate winealsa` and see if you have the file, which you should
[12:21] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[12:23] <Stevemav> NewWorld I got a whole list of places it's located, it'll be spam to put it all in here :P
[12:24] <NewWorld> Stevemav:  OK I'll assume it's installed fine then. But is it in "~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system32/winealsa.drv"
[12:25] <Stevemav>  NewWorld yes it definitely says that
[12:26] <Stevemav> it is /home/steve/.wine/drive_c/windows/system32/winealsa.drv  in full
[12:26] <ajb> exit
[12:27] <NewWorld> Stevemav: Is this freshly installed wine? Otherwise you could try backing up ~/.wine , moving it. Then run wine and it will recreate all the configs maybe then it will detect the audio properly
[12:28] <Stevemav> I've only just completely reinstalled the OS about a week ago
[12:28] <Stevemav> but I'm happy to try anything
[12:28] <Raven1> Test
[12:29] <NewWorld> Stevemav:  OK then don't do what I said. How about I give you the relevant winealsa.drv stuff I have in user.reg and you can try plugging it into your config?
[12:31] <HSarena> Hi! Is there anybody knowing about synaptics and touchpad???
[12:32] <mao> Who has the product brief of intel ssd controller, I can't find it on its official site
[12:32] <NewWorld> HSarena:  just ask the question and find out
[12:32] <Pici> mao: That has nothing to do with Ubuntu, try somewhere like ##hardware
[12:33] <mao> Pici: I'm sorry,thank you
[12:34] <bobbyaldol> when I "ssh -vv user@drupal.org" I get this "Write failed: Connection reset by peer". I coudnt understand why??
[12:34] <HSarena> I have problems with my touchpad, sometime it  works sometimes it doen't..... I have ubuntu 12.04..
[12:36] <NewWorld> HSarena:  can you recreate the problem? i.e. when exactly does it stop working?
[12:36] <MonkeyDust> bobbyaldol  #drupal may be what you need
[12:37] <bobbyaldol> MonkeyDust: they have already looked into it and said that it would be an ssh problem
[12:37] <bobbyaldol> I cannot ssh to my localhost either
[12:37] <bobbyaldol> MonkeyDust:  ^^
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> bobbyaldol  try without -vv
[12:39] <bobbyaldol> MonkeyDust: first I did that then turned to -vv , even this didnt solve the error http://serverfault.com/questions/265244/ssh-client-problem-connection-reset-by-peer
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> bobbyaldol  sure port 22 is not blocked or so?
[12:40] <aboudreault> hey, my fglrx doesn't load anyload, causing a baclk screen with a total freeze. how can I try the default driver?
[12:41] <aboudreault> can I just replace the driver to "intel" in the xorg.conf file?
[12:41] <bobbyaldol> MonkeyDust: the drupal guys were pretty sure, I was the only one having the problem
[12:42] <HSarena> NewWorld: i have this problem after i install ubuntu 11.04, I thought this is technical problem and it don't have any relation with ubuntu, but now, after install ubuntu 12.04, i exactly know that this problem because of drivers
[12:43] <Stevemav> NewWorld sorry for the delay, I'd like that, yes!
[12:44] <NewWorld> HSarena:  What I would do is as soon as it stops working, run `dmesg` and see the latest messages.
[12:44] <Kartagis> I'm on 12.04. on Friday I left my computer on and today (Monday) I found it totally unresponsive and I had to reboot it. how to find out what the cause is?
[12:45] <keirlav87> whoever suggested geany to me, thank you! That snippets file is a godsend
[12:46] <xskydevilx> Hi there. How do I set a new custom resolution using the nvidia settings instead of xrander?
[12:47] <shaneo> hey guys update manager said there was an update to kernel 3.2 this morning when i ran apt-get update it vanished from the list of update. Is there any way to get it back so I can update to the latest stable kernel
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> xskydevilx: run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig; gksudo nvidia-settings    set the resolution to something as well as the refresh and click to save to the xorg.conf file.
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> xskydevilx: then run:  gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf   and edit the resolutions to whatever you want
[12:47] <xskydevilx> Will try that.Thanks.
[12:49] <NewWorld> Stevemav:  Hmmm I just looked at user.reg and maybe it won't be so easy to plug it in, but it's more information on how it should like so here it is anyway: http://pastebin.com/bnpxe0F0
[12:49] <xskydevilx> ActionParsnip, Can I apply the changes without restarting?
[12:49] <Stevemav> so i just paste one of those to the terminal?
[12:49] <Stevemav> NewWorld?
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> xskydevilx: sure, just restart the x server and the file will be reread
[12:51] <NewWorld> NewWorld:  I don't know how you'll plug that in, since that guid stuff looks specific to my machine but you can try I guess... put that bit into user.reg but notice the registry locations are in alphabetical order
[12:51] <NewWorld> Stevemav:  so you have to put them in the right place in the alphabetical order of user.reg
[12:52] <Stevemav> NewWorld
[12:52] <NewWorld> Stevemav:  yup.
[12:52] <HSarena> NewWorld: http://pastebin.com/FZgc4861
[12:53] <Stevemav> I just heard a massive whoosh noise go over my head. To start with, I'll just put in user.re and see if I can add stuff there
[12:53] <rnamF> wich repositorys can i use for unstable versions?
[12:53] <Stevemav> ok so I can't just type user.reg into the command  :P
[12:53] <NewWorld> HSarena:  Google those error msgs, hopefully you will find info on a fix
[12:54] <NewWorld> Stevemav:  It's a configuration file. It's in ~/.wine/user.reg
[12:54] <HSarena> NewWorld: tnx ;)
[12:54] <RagnaRok__> can anyone help me set up ddclient for dyndns
[12:54] <xskydevilx> ActionParsnip, Hey, it's me again. That didn't seem to do anything :/
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> xskydevilx: try a reboot
[12:55] <rnamF> i cant seem to find a list
[12:55] <Stevemav> so I've put in sudo ~/.wine/user.reg and it says command not found
[12:55] <xskydevilx> I just did that :/
[12:55] <NewWorld> Stevemav:  It's a configuration file, so oper user.reg with a text editor
[12:55] <Stevemav> NewWirkd so I've put in sudo ~/.wine/user.reg and it says command not found
[12:55] <xskydevilx> ActionParsnip, I'll try doing one more time for the hell of it.
[12:56] <gaelfx> !tab | Stevemav
[12:56] <gaelfx> Stevemav: also, that's not a command, it's file, what are you trying to do with it?
[12:56] <Stevemav> cheers
[12:56] <thevoid> would somoene mind taking a look at this fstab and telling me if they think it will work?  i havent implemented it yet,.
[12:56] <thevoid> http://pastebin.com/m5RcNFa7
[12:57] <thevoid> nas is the user i want to own the shares
[12:57] <bobbyaldol> when I "ssh -vv user@drupal.org" I get this "Write failed: Connection reset by peer". I coudnt understand why??
[12:57] <bobbyaldol> I can however ssh to my localhost
[12:57] <bobbyaldol> drupal has looked into it and said that it would be an ssh problem
[12:58] <Meris> Which ext or other fully supported fs is best for long-term offline storage (Only Linux access is needed)?
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> Meris  try ext4
[12:59] <Stevemav> NewWorld: need to google what to do, text editing I have absolutely no idea how to proceed. I copied over the data from the link you posted, but I'll need to look up for to proceed from there
[13:00] <NewWorld> Stevemav:  I think it won't work until we find the guid of your audio devices, because, from the stuff I gave you, that guid stuff is specific to my machine I think.
[13:00] <Noor_egy> hello
[13:00] <Noor_egy> everytime i try to open my mint i got thsi message (no servers is defined in the configuration file and xdmcp was disabled this can be only configration error .....)
[13:00] <Eagleman> I am looking for a simple and low cost solution to host VDI, like say a windows 7 desktop which i can enter trough android or windows. Any free programs on the market to do this?
[13:00] <Stevemav> NewWorld: Ok fair enough.
[13:01] <rnamF> anyone can help me?
[13:01] <bobbyaldol> the result of ssh -vv is http://pastebin.com/Trb24h43
[13:01] <rnamF> i just need a deb-src for unstable repository
[13:01] <Meris> MonkeyDust, thanks, I already use that, so that seems to be right. What I'm looking for is a filesystem that has some ECC capabilities built-in as long-term storage tends to introduce some bit-rot over time...
[13:03] <Stevemav> what's the command to search for the guid
[13:03] <NewWorld> Stevemav:  I'm having trouble finding it haha
[13:04] <Stevemav> lol fair enough. I've saved a copy of the link you sent, so that I have it on hand NewWorld
[13:04] <CM-Pizarro> Hi all
[13:05] <Eagleman> I am looking for a simple and low cost solution to host VDI, like say a windows 7 desktop which i can enter trough android or windows. Any free programs on the market to do this?
[13:05] <CM-Pizarro> Running here in Ubuntu Server 8.04, anyway to upgrade to the latest LTS though console? Thanks.
[13:05] <Shogoot> What is the lightest ubuntu distro?
[13:06] <Meris> Shogoot, try Lubuntu
[13:06] <gaelfx> Shogoot: or server :D
[13:06] <DJones> Shogoot: Lubuntu or Xubuntu
[13:06] <Meris> Shogoot, if you don't need X-Windows, you could go for the server version instead, which has even less overhead.
[13:07] <Shogoot> I need a gui
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> CM-Pizarro  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[13:07] <gaelfx> CM-Pizarro: really the best way would be to do a fresh install
[13:07] <Shogoot> and the posibility to do remotedesktop into it from windoe
[13:07] <Shogoot> windows
[13:07] <CM-Pizarro> gaelfx: ini that case I will go for debian
[13:07] <CM-Pizarro> I can't be changing servers each 2 years
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> CM-Pizarro  what gaelfx says, is fastest and easiest
[13:07] <CM-Pizarro> I wanted to give  arty to my current stuff
[13:07] <gaelfx> CM-Pizarro: upgrading that manny releases is is bound to run into some serious flack
[13:07] <Meris> Shogoot, Xubuntu or Lubuntu will do fine then. In my experience, Lubuntu has the most lightweight programs and environment
[13:08] <NewWorld> Stevemav:  I see that the guid gets fetched every time wine is started so why don't you copy just: http://pastebin.com/TM02FEyP into user.reg
[13:08] <CM-Pizarro> ok, moving to Debian then, thanks.
[13:08] <NewWorld> Stevemav:  Put it between [Software\\Wine\\Dotnet] and  [Software\\Wine\\Explorer\\Desktops]
[13:08] <Meris> Shogoot, Xubuntu (XFCE) is more polished, but needs a little bit more resources than lubuntu.
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> CM-Pizarro  8-12, that's 4 years
[13:08] <CM-Pizarro> MonkeyDust: yes it is, and the server has been just stable as hell
[13:09] <CM-Pizarro> why to change?
[13:09] <Shogoot> Meris, you mean polished as in nicer? graphically?
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> CM-Pizarro  because it is no longer supported, it has no updates anymore
[13:09] <CM-Pizarro> I want to install Gluster, and is requiring libssl v >1 which is not available in Ubuntu 8.04, just all the reason
[13:09] <Stevemav> NewWorld: I don't know how/where to paste it though
[13:09] <keirlav87> I installed xampp 1.7.3a on ubuntu which was too old, so i uninstalled it and installed the latest version but now /opt/lampp/lampp start gives a message to say that another server daemon is running does anyone know how to resolve this please?
[13:10] <CM-Pizarro> MonkeyDust: I know, but that is happening with all ubuntus versions, each 2-3 years you have to move
[13:10] <Meris> Shogoot, if you are used to Gnome2, you can look at XFCE as a Gnome-Light. LXDE (Lubuntu) is a bit different.
[13:10] <gaelfx> CM-Pizarro: 12.04 is supported through 2017, but why is it so hard to reinstall? If you set up partitions properly, any server stuff should be kept well
[13:10] <SimonUK> Does anyone know what the benefit of tasksel install lamp-server, over apt-get install lamp-server^  ?
[13:10] <Pici> SimonUK: no difference
[13:10] <CM-Pizarro> gaelfx: services down?
[13:10] <CM-Pizarro> I will have people down for a few hours
[13:10] <SimonUK> so, on a new server... I have to install tasksel first if I wanted to use that method...
[13:10] <SimonUK> so what's the *point* of tasksel ?
[13:11] <dangbarry> hey, i'm have a problem with chromium, when i try to use show in folder, i get the following terminal error "unknown mime-type for /home/master/Downloads ". So I went into "~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list" to try and fix it. I thought it could be i was looking to run nautilus.desktop. any ideas? Stevemav, service mysql stop && service apache stop
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> CM-Pizarro  you could stick to LTS versions, they are supported 5 years
[13:11] <SimonUK> Pici: sorry, I meant to say thanks
[13:11] <CM-Pizarro> MonkeyDust: yeah, I will
[13:11] <Eagleman> I want to run a virtual Windows 7 Desktop which i can connect to and then do all the work just like a normal PC, i believe this is called a VDI. Are there any programs that can do this on Ubuntu Server 12.04?
[13:11] <CM-Pizarro> but I find Debian easier in this matter
[13:11] <CM-Pizarro> you just keep the server up to date and go on
[13:11] <Meris> Shogoot, what kind of hardware do you need it to run on? CPU? GPU? Mem?
[13:11] <CM-Pizarro> no need to switch from versions
[13:11] <NewWorld> Stevemav:  Open file ~/.wine/user.reg   with a text editor. Find the place between [Software\\Wine\\Dotnet] and  [Software\\Wine\\Explorer\\Desktops]. Paste (Select text, right-click, Copy. Then right-click paste wherever)
[13:12] <compdoc> Eagleman, remotely?
[13:12] <Shogoot> Meris, its a good laptop, i jsut want it to use minimal of electricity
[13:12] <Meris> Eagleman, try KVM
[13:12] <zykotick9> !virtualizer | Eagleman
[13:12] <Shogoot> i gue
[13:12] <SimonUK> Pici: also - what was the point of the caret ^  at the end of the command?  I read that it is / is not required - do you know what the actual case is?
[13:12] <ThinkT510> Eagleman: vdi is a virtual disk image, a format that can be used in virtualbox
[13:12] <Shogoot> Meris, i guess i shall se some screenshots of l and x ubuntuto mak eup my mind :)
[13:13] <Shogoot> Meris, xubuntu has the most support?
[13:13] <ThinkT510> Shogoot: they are both supported
[13:13] <Eagleman> ThinkT510 Virtual Desktop Infrastructure
[13:13] <zykotick9> Shogoot: lxde (lubuntu) is significantly lighter the xfce (xubuntu)
[13:13] <Kartagis> I'm on 12.04. on Friday I left my computer on and today (Monday) I found it totally unresponsive and I had to reboot it. how to find out what the cause is?
[13:13] <Eagleman> Like vmware vieuw, xendesktop
[13:13] <ThinkT510> Eagleman: ah, sorry
[13:14] <Eagleman> So does KVM Supports VDI?
[13:14] <Guest41315> hi
[13:14] <Stevemav> what's the name of ubuntu's text editor? I can't seem to find it
[13:14] <Eagleman> nano?
[13:14] <progre55> geirha: so I solved the problem I was having with a script being killed by a self-restarting deamon in the following way:  told the matlab guy to issue the restart command by an extra argument "fork", and in the script itself, if it has the fork argument, I just re-run the same script with no "fork" and with nohup, which means it's deattached from the matlab process before being restarted :)
[13:14] <Kartagis> gedit
[13:14] <Guest41315> how can i remove UFW and just use iptables
[13:14] <zykotick9> Stevemav: gedit?
[13:14] <Stevemav> that's the one
[13:14] <compdoc> Guest41315, UFW isnt running - no need to remove it, but I guess you can
[13:14] <progre55> geirha: thanks for all your help btw, appreciate :)
[13:15] <Guest41315> compdoc, it isnt running?
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> Stevemav  gedit
[13:15] <Stevemav> cool I'm just looking up how to use it
[13:15] <compdoc> Guest41315, there is no firewall running. And UFW is just a gui for iptables, I think
[13:15] <dangbarry> Stevemav, sound like you have two instances of mysql and apache running "service mysql stop && service apache stop" then try the xampp again.
[13:15] <Meris> Shogoot, it just depends on what you want to do with it, I run Puppy Linux (Wary) on my PIII-600 system and it runs quite nicely, on my MacBook 2007 I use Lubuntu 12.04
[13:16] <keirlav87> help me!!
[13:16] <Meris> !patience | keirlav87
[13:16] <Guest41315> compdoc, i see
[13:16] <BluesKaj> keirlav87, juat ask your question
[13:16] <Stevemav> dangbarry: I've no idea what you just said sorry
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> keirlav87  a question is a good beginning if you seek help
[13:16] <NewWorld> Stevemav:  The default text editor is Gedit , I think. Find it in the start menu
[13:16] <Shogoot> Im going for Lubuntu
[13:16] <Shogoot> :) THANKS
[13:17] <NewWorld> Stevemav:  Btw.... does the sound work anywhere else in Ubuntu?
[13:17] <Guest41315> how can i remove everything from canonical from an ubuntu install?
[13:17] <Guest41315> revert to debian
[13:17] <Stevemav> NewWorld: yeah I'm found it, I put in ~/.wine/user.reg  ... then what
[13:17] <dangbarry> Stevemav, did you setup an apache server or mysql server before trying to launch xampp?
[13:17] <Meris> Eagleman, you might like this article on VDI on KVM: http://jaysonrowe.blogspot.nl/2011/10/convert-virtualbox-vdi-disk-for-use.html
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> Guest41315  debian is a different distro
[13:17] <Stevemav> NewWorld:Yes it works to play music and youtube etc
[13:17] <ThinkT510> Guest41315: just reinstall debian if that's what you want
[13:17] <Eagleman> thanks meris
[13:18] <Stevemav> dangbarry: wrong person i think sorry
[13:18] <Guest41315> im on amazon ec2 micro
[13:18] <NewWorld> Stevemav:  Did you paste the stuff between the 2 things like I told you?
[13:18] <duckbee> Hi I have a linksys wusb600n v2 and can't get it to work ubuntu 12.04? Any ideas?
[13:18] <dangbarry> Stevemav, opps!
[13:18] <compdoc> Guest41315, good luck with that
[13:18] <BluesKaj> Guest41315, in short , you can't , install debian
[13:18] <Stevemav> NewWorld: I need to type in those myself right? I've not done that yet sorry.
[13:18] <Eagleman> Meris with VDI i do not mean the disk format, its a term: Virtual Virtual Desktop Infrastructure
[13:19] <rahul_> hello. i want to copy iso from cd to hdd. i know the dd command to do it but what is my CD mounted as? it doesn't show in fdisk -l.
[13:19] <Meris> Eagleman, if it only describes the concept, KVM or Xen should fit right in.
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> rahul_  type mount
[13:20] <dangbarry> hey, i'm have a problem with chromium, when i try to use show in folder, i get the following terminal error "unknown mime-type for /home/master/Downloads ". So I went into "~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list" to try and fix it. I thought it could be i was looking to run nautilus.desktop. anyone fix this with chrome?
[13:20] <NewWorld> rahul_:  I think running `mount` shows where everything is mounted
[13:20] <rahul_> ok
[13:21] <rahul_> thanks
[13:21] <Meris> Eagleman, within those VM's I mentioned, you could run a LTSP (Linux Terminal Server Project) to act as server for thin clients, if that's what you are looking for
[13:21] <Meris> !ltsp | Eagleman
[13:21] <Stevemav> NewWorld: I have zero idea how to use gedit, I type stuff in and nothing happens. I know I'm missing something but I have no idea what. all this stuff happening in here means I can't find what two thing s you wanted me to put it between
[13:22] <Eagleman> Meris i just want to run 1 or 2 Windows Desktopts which i can connect to and work on, like on a android tablet which has not got windows installed on it
[13:22] <milligan> Using rsyslogd as a centralised logging server. I have the following in /etc/rsyslog.d/10-mydev.conf: $template FileNameWise, "/var/log/wise/system-%HOSTNAME%.log" < insert break > :fromhost-ip,startswith, "172",FileNameWise < insert break > &~ . Using tcpdump,I see the messages coming in .. However, they go to /var/log/syslog and not a pr host (ip) logfile. What have I done wrong ?
[13:22] <BluesKaj> rahul_, most like it's /dev/sr0
[13:23] <BluesKaj> likely rather
[13:23] <NewWorld> Stevemav:  In Gedit, go to File > Open > Navigate to /home/steve/.wine/user.reg   to open the file. Did you get that far?
[13:23] <dtcrshr> After the last update my touchpad mouse wont work the touch click, only the buttons. how do i get it back?
[13:23] <Stevemav> I typed in gedit ~/.wine/user.reg and it opened something, is that another way to get there?
[13:24] <gaelfx> dtcrshr: did you check the mouse and touchpad settings in system settings?
[13:24] <Stevemav> NewWorld: I typed it in in the command line
[13:24] <NewWorld> Stevemav:  Yeah that's fine too. So you can see the file opened in Gedit , yeah?
[13:24] <dtcrshr> gaelfx: can you point me where it is? couldnt find it
[13:24] <Stevemav> yeah finally
[13:24] <Eagleman> Do you have an idea what i could run to get what i want to have Meris?
[13:24] <Stevemav> NewWorld: yes finally. I hate being new at thigns
[13:25] <gaelfx> dtcrshr: click the gear, system settings, it should be right there
[13:25] <Meris> Eagleman, You could run a Windows Terminal server within a KVM/ Xen environment, If you really need MS Windows, you'll have some licensing issues as well, most Windows versions cannot be virtualised legally.
[13:26] <NewWorld> Stevemav:  Dw you'll learn it eventually if you stick with it :) OK can you see how all the bits of text in [ ] brackets are in alphabetical order?
[13:27] <Eagleman> Meris getting licenses for windows wont be a problem since i am a student, i can get a few for free
[13:27] <gaelfx> dtcrshr: any luck with that?
[13:27] <Meris> EagleMan, For that setup, you'll need KVM/ Xen, A copy of Windows Server 2003/ 2008/ Whatever Windows Server OS + Terminal License (most Windows Server OS'es include 5 Terminals by default)
[13:28] <Stevemav> NewWorld: Yeah i can, however I keyword searched for dotnet and it wasn't in the file at all
[13:28] <thonixx> hi there
[13:28] <Eagleman> Meris wont that cause problems? Since i am virtualising Windows 2008 and then running Terminal Services to virtualise aigan?
[13:28] <Eagleman> Or am i confusing Terminal Services with Windows 2008 HyperV?
[13:28] <NewWorld> Stevemav:  That's fine. Scroll down to the place where "[Software\\Wine\\Drivers]" would fit in, alphabetically.
[13:29] <Meris> EagleMan, no it won't. Because Terminal Services is just another service on Windows 2008, just like IIS or MSSQL
[13:29] <Eagleman> So how do i connect to the Terminal Service on a android tablet?
[13:29] <Eagleman> Will it give me a windows 7 enviroment?
[13:29] <keirlav87> can anyone help with an xampp related question? - basically i installed 1.7.3a by accident initially, so i uninstalled and installed 1.8 instead - however when i try to start xampp it says the daemons are already running but i cannot stop or find the services
[13:30] <Stevemav> NewWorld: cool I'm there
[13:30] <Pici> !xampp | keirlav87
[13:30] <Meris> Eagleman, the only part that this channel can help you with is the Ubuntu-specific part of setting up KVM or Xen, the rest is Microsoft stuff, which is not discussed here
[13:30] <NewWorld> Stevemav:  OK paste the stuff I gave you into there and save the file (File > Save). You know how to paste, yes?
[13:31] <Meris> Eagleman, KVM/ Xen does not care which client OS you want to run within it.
[13:31] <duckbee> eventually found a solution to get wusb600n working. solution is here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/408165/comments/135
[13:31] <keirlav87> right so i should just install the lamp stack directly into the hdd?
[13:31] <Stevemav> NewWorld: Unless you're using a new language, I can paste :P How which of the links am I putting in there sorry?
[13:31] <Eagleman> ok, thanks for helping then Meris
[13:32] <NewWorld> Stevemav: http://pastebin.com/TM02FEyP
[13:32] <Meris> Eagleman, no problem, good luck on your project :-)
[13:32] <Eagleman> Thanks :)
[13:32] <keirlav87> sudo rm -rf /opt/lampp
[13:32] <keirlav87> is that good enoughto fully remove lampp?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> keirlav87: did you install it with packages (taskel / apt-get )?
[13:33] <Meris> keirlav87, no it is not, you'll be stuck with alll the config files and whatnot
[13:33] <keirlav87> how can i remove those?
[13:33] <Stevemav> NewWorld: Ok I've done that and saved it
[13:34] <NewWorld> Stevemav:  Now quit all wine apps, and go into the Audio tab when you execute `winecfg`
[13:34] <Meris> keirlav87, as ActionParsnip just told you, that depends which method you used to install the lamp.
[13:35] <keirlav87> sorry, i downloaded a tar file from the xampp website then ran tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.8.0.tar.gz -C /opt
[13:35] <Stevemav> NewWorld: Still nothing there
[13:36] <Stevemav> Ok I'm going to have to call it a night, waaay too tired. will you be on tomorrow around this time? It would be good to try and work with the same person again :)
[13:37] <kexanie> anybody here ?
[13:37] <NewWorld> Stevemav:  I can't think of other ways to help. I think it's best if you post on the forums, giving as much info as possible. Sorry
[13:37] <kexanie> can anybody do me a favour ?
[13:37] <Meris> keirlav87, *if* the programs extracted from the tarball won't write to the rest of your system a rm -rf would suffice, but I would be surprised if /etc and /var wouldn't be used by that xampp install (provided you did run it, of course)
[13:38] <Stevemav> NewWorld: No need to be sorry, you've done heaps, thanks so much. Have a good night
[13:38] <kexanie> I am a wordpress beginner .. I just have a little problem with it  . can any body help , please ?
[13:38] <NewWorld> Stevemav:  You too mate, gnight and best of luck))
[13:38] <ozgroove> hello, does somebody know how to add german as a langauge to gtkspell? i want to use it in gummi.
[13:38] <Meris> kexanie, this is probably not the best channel to discuss WordPress, try #wordpress instead
[13:39] <kexanie> oh. .thanks . almost forget it
[13:39] <wolf> helo people
[13:39] <Meris> wolf, hi, please state your question.
[13:40] <Meris> Guest17825, hi, please state your question. (Why did you rename your nick?_
[13:41] <BluesKaj> too many guests,  Guest17825
[13:41] <streulma> hello, can someone help me with building lamp from scratch ?
[13:41] <ivan__> italy????
[13:41] <fidel_> !it > ivan__
[13:41] <fidel_> BluesKaj: any actual issue you have?
[13:42] <NewWorld> streulma:  Surely, there are tonnes of guides for that on the internet
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> !lamp | streulma
[13:42] <fidel_> erm ...i ment streulma
[13:43] <ivan__> ITALY????
[13:43] <BluesKaj> fidel_, ?
[13:43] <Noor_egy> hello im getting this error
[13:43] <fidel_> !it > ivan__
[13:43] <Noor_egy> linux mint no servers is defined in the configuration file and xdmcp error
[13:43] <fidel_> BluesKaj: sorry - wrong nick completion ;)
[13:43] <DJones> !mint | Noor_egy
[13:43] <fidel_> Noor_egy: we dont support mint here
[13:43] <BluesKaj> fidel_, np
[13:43] <Noor_egy> so u cant help me :S
[13:43] <Noor_egy> its having ubuntu core
[13:44] <fidel_> Noor_egy: if you use mint - ask the mint guys
[13:44] <OerHeks> !mint
[13:44] <fidel_> if you use ubuntu - use the ubuntu support - simple as that
[13:44] <fidel_> you dont drive your daimler to toyotas-repair-shop  either;)
[13:45] <Noor_egy> well im using ubuntu in one pc and mint in another
[13:45] <MK`> On occasion, some program on the computer crashes and my gnome panel style reverts to the default GTK+ style, and things like my laptop's volume up and down buttons cease working. I can only fix this by restarting, does anyone else have an idea how to fix it without restarting?
[13:46] <bobbyaldol> how do I disable firewall on 11.10
[13:46] <NewWorld> MK`:  Do you know which program is the one that crashes?
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> bobbyaldol  sudo ufw disable
[13:46] <MK`> NewWorld: i do not
[13:47] <MK`> It happens randomly, I do not know what causes it, but more often than not when I launch Ubuntu it starts either working or not, seems to be 50/50
[13:47] <bobbyaldol> MonkeyDust:  thanks buddy
[13:47] <MK`> It's less common for it to change while ubuntu is already running
[13:48] <NewWorld> MK`:  Does logging out and in fix it? (i.e. you don't have to restart)
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> MK`: log off and on maybe
[13:49] <Harrowrob> Newbie question - How do I customize the Launcher in 12.04?
[13:49] <gaelfx> MK`: you probably don't need to restart the computer, you could just try restarting x in a tty
[13:49] <Harrowrob> I want to move it to the bottom of the screen
[13:49] <MK`> I never actually tried that; I moreso meant I didn't want to have to close all my programs
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> Harrowrob: in what way customize?
[13:49] <gaelfx> Harrowrob: what do you mean by customize?
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> Harrowrob  use MyUnity
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> Harrowrob: there is a 3rd party PPA to move it but it's known to break things
[13:49] <real_unreal> I am learning about bufferoverflow and shell spwaning thorugh it here is my source code http://paste.ubuntu.com/1106443/  can anyone help me here as i got stuck!!
[13:50] <NewWorld> MK`:  How I would go about it is identify the program that's crashing and check its logfile for info
[13:50] <ring0> i'd like to add more dictionaries to use spell checking in evolution. could anybody give me a hint for the needed package?
[13:51] <tomswartz07> hey all, im trying to grab a deb file from a ppa to use on another machine. how do you only download the deb from a ppa?
[13:51] <tomswartz07> feel free to use cli tools, i could handle it
[13:51] <MK`> NewWorld: alright, any advice on how to do that? gaelfx: will that kill anything else but x?
[13:51] <jpds> tomswartz07: apt-get install -d <package>
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> tomswartz07  depends on the ppa, better as the maintainer, i guess
[13:52] <idontcare>  hey, i m using reconstructor to build a specified linux distro, and i was wondering what packages you would add to create a secure linux ?
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> ask*
[13:52] <jpds> MonkeyDust: No, it's the same as any other package.
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> Harrowrob: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-customise-unity-like-never-before   your choice
[13:52] <tomswartz07> MonkeyDust: will that just dump the deb in the current location?
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> jpds  tomswartz07 type !ppa
[13:52] <tomswartz07> !ppa
[13:52] <fidel_> idontcare: it minght make sense to give us a list what you already have
[13:52] <fidel_> otherwise we have to guess and might mention packages you already have
[13:53] <jpds> tomswartz07: No, /var/cache/apt/archives/
[13:53] <Harrowrob> ActionParsnip - I'm there now
[13:53] <tomswartz07> excellent. that's all i needed! thanks jpds
[13:53] <NewWorld> MK`:  Compare `ps -axjf` with before and after it crashes to see if some process was killed. Maybe if it's Xorg-related , check ~/.xsession-errors after it crashes
[13:54] <MK`> alright
[13:54] <idontcare> aide-common	0.15.1-5	321 KB	
[13:54] <idontcare> aide-dynamic	0.15.1-5	252 KB	
[13:54] <idontcare> aide-xen	0.15.1-5	1400 KB	
[13:54] <idontcare> alien	8.86	208 KB	
[13:54] <idontcare> apparmor	2.7.102-0ubuntu3	1055 KB	
[13:54] <FloodBot1> idontcare: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:54] <idontcare> apt	0.8.16~exp12ubuntu10	3166 KB	
[13:54] <NewWorld> MK`:  Also, maybe `dmesg` after it crashes. Maybe some err msgs there
[13:55] <Balask> Hello, my linux install keeps freezing and forcing me to restart
[13:55] <OerHeks> idontcare, your question is not an ubuntu support one, please join #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[13:55] <MK`> thanks NewWorld, I'll report back anything I find
[13:56] <NewWorld> good luck!
[13:57] <fidel_> !pm > idontcare
[13:57] <idontcare> okay, OerHeks thanks
[13:58] <fidel_> idontcare: please talk to the channel - avoid pm'ing single persons - and dont flood the channel. if you want to show a longer paste - use some kind of paste-service
[13:58] <shuo> I am quite a newbie, but what the meaning of watching people entering and leaving in this channel?  :P
[13:58] <idontcare> yeah xD will do so in the future :)
[13:58] <idontcare> shuo it's fun :)
[13:58] <fidel_> shuo: feel free to tell your client to NOT show those join & quits
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> shuo  some clients can hide those messages
[13:59] <fidel_> shuo: it makes sense for some and no sense for others
[13:59] <shuo> ah, ha
[14:00] <BlueWolf> Hi, my Rhythmbox will not allow me to change my song names, it keeps coming up with these two errors. -
[14:00] <BlueWolf> (Error while saving song information Unable to create tag-writing elements)
[14:00] <BlueWolf> (Error while saving song information Internal GStreamer problem; file a bug)
[14:00] <BlueWolf> Please can someone help.
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> shuo: what client do you use?
[14:00] <fidel_> BlueWolf: i would try to do what the error tells you already- file a bug
[14:00] <fidel_> if your gstreamer is up2date
[14:01] <stephans_> Please help analyze problem: in KDE, Dolphin connects via sftp to my other machine, propts for user and pass. I enter the correct values, and it fails to log on. using ssh works fine. using nautilus works fine. using filezilla works fine. what could be wrong with dolphin?
[14:01] <east___>  hey guys how i can add a group of files on my desktop ? I removed that default on desktop :D (on kde)
[14:01] <shuo> xchat
[14:01] <NewWorld> stephans_:  What error msg does it return?
[14:01] <shuo> am not familiar with it... any quick cmd I can type to ignore those messages?
[14:02] <fidel_> shuo: use a search engine to check how YOUR client can do that - if it can filter those type of messages at all
[14:02] <stephans_> NewWorld, it simply prompts me to try again.
[14:02] <fidel_> shuo: we would be in need to query your client-version - an info you have already ;)
[14:03] <BlueWolf> fidel_: Ok but I don't think it would work, you see when I change the names and stuff it then comes up with the errors and when I click the X button at the top rather than the close it save the song names until it plays the song then it switches back the name?
[14:03] <fidel_> BlueWolf: what wouldnt work in reporting a bug?
[14:04] <NewWorld> stephans_:  Maybe you'll get an informative error msg if you run dolphin from command line and try to login
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> shuo  this link dates from 2009, see if it helps you http://forum.rizon.net/showthread.php?740-Disable-Join-and-Part-messages
[14:05] <shuo> oh, am also searching it, but will check your link first, thx first :)
[14:05] <doki_pen> can ubottu list versions of packages?
[14:05] <BlueWolf> 	
[14:05] <fidel_> !info mc
[14:05] <BlueWolf> fidel_: I don't know, just saying. I have never reported a bug before so I don't know much about them. Sorry if I sound arrogant. :D
[14:05] <escott> !info mc natty
[14:05] <fidel_> info | mc
[14:06] <fidel_> doki_pen: got it?
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> doki_pen  apt-cache policy or apt-cache show
[14:06] <fidel_> doki_pen: but please try to use your local terminal for longer searches ;)
[14:07] <doki_pen> !info monit
[14:08] <fidel_> BlueWolf: reporting bugs is the way how devs get a chance to even get informations about existing problems - so a common workflow as user should be somehow similar to: realize problem - check if others report such issues also - try to reproduce it - opening a ticket/bugreport and adding as much informations as possible.
[14:09] <fidel_> BlueWolf: ubuntu comes with the ubuntu-bug report - like that you can easily create bug-reports - try: 'man ubuntu-bug' in your terminal to get some basic infos
[14:09] <BlueWolf> fidel_: Thanks a lot, I am reading all about it in google now and the error. ;-)
[14:10] <fidel_> BlueWolf: searching for exact error-messages usualy helps heavily too
[14:11] <BlueWolf> fidel_: Thanks man. I will look into the error . . . . . .
[14:11] <bluenemo_> hi guys, has anyone an idea where i can find what the value of ID_SERIAL for a usb stick? it was somewhere in /sys but i cant find it anymore in 12.04. i need it to clearly identify usb keys that only contain random data (no partitions)
[14:12] <escott> bluenemo_, it doesnt appear in lsusb?
[14:15] <bluenemo_> escott, yes but i need the exact path as i'm working on a script for the initramfs, and there is no lsusb :) and no, it doesnt show up in lsusb -vvv. a part of it but not the long version
[14:15] <escott> bluenemo_, i would think it would appear somewhere under /sys/bus/usb/devices/#####
[14:19] <ohmy> hi
[14:19] <ohmy> can anyone tell me how to force gnome-session-fallback at startup "from command line" ? i have only an ssh connection to my remote PC
[14:20] <jiffe98> mysql cluster no longer in the ubuntu repositories ?
[14:21] <NewWorld> ohmy:  Do you have the command to run or do you need to find out what the command is?
[14:22] <shuo> allchanl
[14:22] <ohmy> NewWorld: i need the command to force gnome-fallback from command line
[14:23] <NewWorld> Then dunno, sorry
[14:23] <ohmy> NewWorld: (noticed what i've wrote "command" from "command line")
[14:23] <shuo> id
[14:23] <shuo> Sorry for the spam, I am getting myself familiar here :P
[14:23] <linuxsage> Hi, am having issues with my hostname, everytime I prompt sudo command I get an alert "sudo: unable to resolve host linuxsage
[14:23] <ohmy> isnt there anyway to say to lighdm to start gnome-fallback instead of unity/2d ?
[14:24] <shuo> JOIN #linux
[14:24] <dhana013> Hi Guys How to understand, ubuntu preseed with ### Partitioning
[14:24] <dhana013> d-i partman please guide me.
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> ohmy  yes, select it in the list, the next time it will be selected automatically
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> ohmy: sure, just log off, log in to the session and the session should be remembered
[14:25] <dhana013> preseed partitioning help, How to understand?
[14:25] <ohmy> MonkeyDust: I do not have access to the graphic mode (it crashes) i can only connect to this remote PC using SSH
[14:25] <dom_> hello
[14:25] <linuxsage> nothing seems to solve this issue I've checked my /etc/hosts file and /etc/hostname file and they all match
[14:25] <dom_> help me?
[14:26] <DJones> !ask
[14:26] <MonkeyDust> ohmy  then why do you need a GUI ?
[14:26] <escott> linuxsage, what does /etc/hosts say?
[14:26] <dom_> yes
[14:27] <ohmy> MonkeyDust: the graphiic card is old, and this is why i'm expecting gnome-classic to work instead of unnity which crashes
[14:27] <linuxsage> escott, 127.0.0.1       linuxsage
[14:27] <linuxsage> 127.0.1.1       linuxsage
[14:27] <escott> linuxsage, the first one 127.0.0.1 should be localhost
[14:28] <ohmy> sudo /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-set-defaults -s gnome-classic does not work :(
[14:30] <giiker> anyone knows of a how to for a rsyslog instalation
[14:30] <linuxsage> escott, yea, I figured that out, I changed it accidentally when trying to sort things out, but it taking it rectifying that doesnt make the problem go away
[14:33] <escott> linuxsage, i wonder if it is cached somewhere. what does ping localhost ping? and what does ping linuxsage ping?
[14:35] <Aritz> anyone know at which OSI layer ethtool, tcpdump, ip -s -s link, cat /proc/net/dev refer their drop?
[14:37] <linuxsage> escott, that streams bytes of data, my guesse is that everything is fine with localhost, might the problem be with IP addressing, ?(I am a complete noob in networking stuff)
[14:38] <nosmelc> Is there a way to look at an Ubuntu install USB flash drive and tell which version it is?
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> Aritz: well, tcpdump will work on tcp (transprt), ip (network), the cat is just the network interfaces themsleves (physical)
[14:38] <escott> linuxsage, i meant what ip address is localhost. alternately "nslookup localhost" "nslookup linuxsage" and "nslookup `hostname`"
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> nosmelc: i believe there are readme files which may state
[14:38] <escott> linuxsage, also how did you get into this situation. what were you messing with and why?
[14:39] <jiffe98> so why did ubuntu remove ndb support from mysql?
[14:39] <Aritz> ActionParsnip: you mean the cat is in NIC layer? not related to kernel or socket buffer right?
[14:40] <nosmelc> ActionParsnip: It looks like it was created in October, if that helps?
[14:40] <edgy> hi, how can I reopen a bug?
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> edgy  you mean on launhpad?
[14:40] <edgy> MonkeyDust: yes
[14:40] <edgy> MonkeyDust: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unattended-upgrades/+bug/336558
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> Aritz: there is no nic layer, the cat shows the network adapter names themselves so you could say it was the physical layer
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> edgy  guess you have to ask on launchpad to reopen it
[14:41] <Peanut> Hi folks - I have an up-to-date Precise machine, and I'm trying to use hdparm to idle the drives. "hdparm -S 10 /dev/sdX" works, and idles the drive(s) as expected - but they don't spin up again when I access the disks. Controllers are LSI9211, drives Seagate ST2000DL003.
[14:41] <edgy> MonkeyDust: ok, done, maybe someone here is listening
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> edgy  or report a new bug and refer to the other bug
[14:42] <jiffe98> this is the whole problem with packages, you have to live with other people's compile time options
[14:42] <ohmy> lightdm.conf contains user-session=gnome-classic while it starts with unity .. how to fix this please ?
[14:42] <edgy> MonkeyDust: if no one reopen it, I will, thanks
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> nosmelc: Ovctober last year would be 20(11) in the (10)th month, 11.10
[14:42] <Jagst3r15> any way to add video to Rhythmbox so I can sync with my ipod touch?
[14:43] <Aritz> ActionParsnip: ok. i got it. thanks! here is the answer to my question b4 http://linux-troubleshooting.blogspot.fr/2010/06/packet-drops-in-linux.html
[14:43] <linuxsage> escott, nslookup localhost gives me Address : 127.0.0.1 both nslookup linuxsage and nslookup hostname return ** server can't find hostname: NXDOMAIN
[14:44] <nosmelc> ActionParsnip: thanks
[14:44] <edgy> MonkeyDust: is unattened-upgrades package installed by default?
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> edgy  never heard of it, sorry
[14:45] <edgy> MonkeyDust: please just do dpkg -l unattended-upgrades and tell me the result
[14:45] <escott> linuxsage, sorry nslookup isn't the right tool. when you type "ping localhost" the first line is PING localhost (127.0.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data. I'm interested in the IP address of that ping for localhost, linuxsage and whatever hostname reports as your hostname
[14:45] <ivan__> ???
[14:45] <ivan__> italy????
[14:45] <MonkeyDust> !it
[14:45] <ska> What is the recommened/common way to access google-chat?
[14:46] <coin3d> is there a difference between ubuntu server and ubuntu desktop edition? are the binaries the same?
[14:46] <yandex38919> ska: Pidgin or through the Gmail website
[14:46] <ripthejacker> !in
[14:46] <ska> Or google-talk..
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> ska: pidgin does it, there isn't really a recommended way for most things
[14:46] <edgy> ska: may be empathy
[14:46] <ivan__> italy????
[14:46] <ThinkT510> coin3d: they use the same repos
[14:46] <ska> yandex38919: do I have to install something to use the google website?
[14:46] <escott> coin3d, same binaries different default configuration
[14:46] <yandex38919> coin3d: Different pre-installed packages, different kernel configuration I think.
[14:46] <dooma> hello guys
[14:46] <coin3d> ok, thanks
[14:46] <Harrowrob> ActionParsnip
[14:46] <ska> I thought the Google method requires some pluggin.
[14:46] <dooma> have anyone from here a thinkpad laptop ?
[14:46] <yandex38919> ska: No... just use any web browser
[14:46] <ivan__> ITALY????
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> ivan__: what about it?
[14:47] <DJones> !it > ivan__
[14:47] <nannes> ivan__: weee ivan che stai a urlare italy??
[14:47] <edgy> ska: yes, you need to install a plugin
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> !anyone | dooma
[14:47] <ThinkT510> dooma: why
[14:47] <ska> yandex38919: Ok, but I don't see that option. k... ty
[14:47] <yandex38919> I've never had to install a plugin for google chat
[14:47] <edgy> yandex38919: no, he needs a plugin
[14:47] <ivan__> qual'è canale italiano????
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> !it | ivan__
[14:47] <escott> !it | ivan__
[14:47] <IdleOne> ivan__: #ubuntu-it
[14:48] <sphearion> I have a server that has some X applications including Xauth and im trying to X11 tunnel however no matter what I do there is no $DISPLAY variable created on the server side.
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> ivan__: we have told you numerous times now..
[14:48] <ivan__> grazie
[14:48] <coin3d> i just ask because my dedicated server provider offers me a "ubuntu server 12.04 LTS min" and i wondered if its the server, or the desktop edition. i guess its the server edition then
[14:48] <edgy> yandex38919, ska: https://www.google.com/chat/video/
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> edgy  yes, it's installed
[14:48] <yandex38919> sphearion: Stupid question, but have you installed a GUI/X server? By default Ubuntu server doesn't have a GUI
[14:48] <dooma> Does anyone have a thinkpad laptop owh? t hdmi adapter
[14:48] <edgy> MonkeyDust: ok thanks
[14:48] <escott> sphearion, X has client server reversed from what you expect. where is your X server running?
[14:49] <linuxsage> escott, I can't figure out what really caused the problem, I havent in any way tried to change my hostname, but I have installed some softwares that I suspect might be related to the problem; DNS server, Apache and a couple of networking stuff, ping localhost gives me the address 127.0.0.1 and when I ping both linuxsage and hostname I get ping: unknown host hostname
[14:49] <sphearion> escott: the xserver is running on my machine and am using ssh -X user@host to connect to the box
[14:50] <dust> hello
[14:50] <escott> sphearion, the proper configuration is A the ssh client needs to be running the X server. B the remote SSH server runs nothing
[14:50] <streulma> escott: try with your IP-address, not the hostname
[14:50] <escott> linuxsage, maybe something about the DNS server
[14:50] <dooma> Does anybody know why my hdmi adapter shows artefacts on full hd tv ???
[14:51] <sphearion> escott:  locally I have X server running and ssh to the remote box with ssh -x it should create a $DISPLAY variable on the remote side to tunnel X application across I is not
[14:51] <sphearion> escott: I can login to other ubuntu servers on my network with ssh -x and it just works. this one is being a pain
[14:51] <Resinator> ok so i finally got ubuntu installed but now i have this b43 firmware issue
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> Resinator  type !bcm
[14:52] <dust> i want to change the update time... i installed cron-apt but now i have 2 times the update... my question is, where can i change my daily update time?
[14:52] <Resinator> i got it to boot, tried to install the package, but the software center wont let me install any package
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | Resinator
[14:52] <Resinator> every package the install button is grayed out
[14:52] <streulma> Resinator: hah right, the same as in the Macbook Pro
[14:52] <escott> sphearion, perhaps the ssh_config is blocking X forwarding?
[14:52] <sphearion> escott: no
[14:52] <streulma> Resinator: If you want, I can help
[14:52] <sphearion> escott: i already checked that set X11Forward = true and set the base display
[14:52] <BluesKaj> dooma, dvi to hdmi adapter cable ? if so there should be no problems with that setup ,the problem is with the video itself or the codec
[14:52] <Resinator> i got the package i need and everything
[14:53] <Resinator> it just wont install
[14:53] <Resinator> any help is appreciated, i've been battling with 12.04 for days
[14:53] <MediaWork> hi
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> Resinator: try closing the app and run:  sudo apt-get update    is it smooth?
[14:53] <streulma> Resinator: you need to build it from source
[14:53] <MediaWork> is there a hotkey for switching between workspaces?
[14:53] <dooma> BluesKaj, hdmi adapter , Laptop hdmi - tv hdmi
[14:53] <Resinator> streulma: msg me
[14:53] <ripthejacker> ! cn
[14:53] <escott> sphearion, sorry i dont have any good ideas of what it could be
[14:54] <ThinkT510> MediaWork: in unity?
[14:54] <sphearion> escott: me neither.
[14:54] <MediaWork> ThinkT510: no the old gnome workspace
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> MediaWork  keep the super key pressed to see the shortcuts
[14:54] <MDKAOD> Hey guys, I'm trying to install 12.04 server with a shell only, but I'm continuing to get a signal out of range in the shell itself. It's happening with Grub also, but I've read that's a common issue. I can't find anything on "Out of Range" in the shell.
[14:55] <MediaWork> MonkeyDust: where is the super  key?
[14:55] <ThinkT510> MediaWork: in that case i don't know sorry
[14:55] <sphearion> I have done this exact thing a zillion times on centos but for some reason ubuntu has to be a hardass about it
[14:55] <escott> sphearion, i doubt you did this but in one case you wrote -x not -X... so you might double check you are using uppercase
[14:55] <sphearion> its definately -X
[14:55] <BluesKaj> dooma, then it's not your connection as I said , check the player and perhaps your graphics card driver ..I use vlc and have very few problems
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> could add -C too for (c)ompression :)
[14:56] <sphearion> hmm
[14:56] <sphearion> escott: http://pastebin.com/6gX1xuyY
[14:57] <dooma> BluesKaj, i think not media player is problem,, when i set full hd resolution for tv, tv screen flashing
[14:58] <MorpheusChalice> mi3, speak, douche.
[14:58] <dhana013> debian-installer partman guide.... Help
[14:58] <escott> sphearion, do thinks like "xclock" work from the cli on the ssh client
[14:58] <dhana013> debian-installer partman guide.... Help
[14:58] <sphearion> cannot open display error
[14:58] <mi3> !language | MorpheusChalice
[14:58] <mi3> heh
[14:58] <MorpheusChalice> mi3, Jeez.
[14:58] <MorpheusChalice> You're.... inept. Sir.
[14:58] <BluesKaj> dooma, well that's your call , but i would try other players just to be sure
[14:59] <dhana013> !
[14:59] <escott> sphearion, so xauth isn't setup correctly for your ssh client side. thats where the fix needs to go
[15:00] <BluesKaj> dhana013, try in #debian support
[15:00] <riktking> hhi i am having trouble using keys for ssh with ubuntu 10.04. i have putty as my ssh client
[15:00] <escott> sphearion, perhaps $XAUTHORITY isn't definied properly
[15:00] <nander> I have a .keyring file I need to regain access to.. I moved it from my other machine.. I think I still know the password, but I don't know which program I need to open it
[15:00] <dooma> i did open a movie player, i just want listen music and work(programming) on tv (tv speakers sounds louder than laptop)
[15:00] <sphearion> client side escott doesn't make sense since this works on other servers.
[15:01] <BLZbubba> in precise, how do i have my laptop automatically hibernate after an hour of idle time?
[15:01] <Gnea> BLZbubba: tell the power management settings about it
[15:02] <NewWorld> dooma:  Do you get artifacts with anything other than a media player program? All other programs fine?
[15:02] <escott> sphearion, im back to being unsure if you understand how Xservers work. Xservers are backwards, it goes upstream from server to client its ssh:client (A) -> server (B) X11 tunnels backwards (B)->(A) so the system you are running ssh on needs to have a working X server
[15:02] <sphearion> escott: I do have a  working xserver
[15:03] <BLZbubba> Gnea: ah ok thanks; i was trying to find screensaver settings
[15:03] <covi> How to write a simple script that renames a bunch of files based on their mtime/ctime? For instance, the earlist one is named '1.ext', etc. I know that the starting point should be ls -ltc
[15:03] <sphearion> i can ssh -x into any other centos box on my network and run say xeyes no problem
[15:03] <dooma> no.. you did not understand... I connect hdmi cable to tv, and I set full hd resolution for tv (in Display application), and after that, tv screen flashes with artefacts
[15:04] <sphearion> escott: i got rid of those errors. but still not $DISPLAY variable set on the server im connected to
[15:04] <dooma> on vga adapter, tv works fine ..
[15:05] <escott> sphearion, do you have the basic x utilities like xauth installed on the server that isnt working
[15:05] <sphearion> yes
[15:06] <BluesKaj> dooma, which dispaly is set to full HD ,the player or the tv or both?
[15:06] <sphearion> find / -name xauth
[15:06] <sphearion> /usr/bin/xauth
[15:07] <dooma> tv is set to full hd, and laptop screen off or is on native resolution
[15:07] <sphearion> and xauth list locally shows me the hostname of my machine as well as the cookie id etc. locally as well I have $DISPLAY set to :0
[15:07] <BluesKaj> dooma, and which player are you using ?
[15:07] <sphearion> but when i connect to the server with -X i echo $DISPLAY and it outputs nothing
[15:07] <dooma> vlc ..
[15:07] <sphearion> and if i run say xeyes from the remote machine it says cannot open display:
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> dooma: tried Unity2D session?
[15:08] <BluesKaj> native res won't work with hd in my experience, dooma
[15:08] <dooma> i didn't tried
[15:08] <escott> sphearion, does the remote server have xforwarding disabled in sshd_config?
[15:08] <sphearion> no escott it is enabled
[15:09] <deathspike> I installed a theme (Orion) in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS but don't see it in the appearance theme selection. What should I do?
[15:09] <oxygene> hy
[15:09] <oxygene> y need help
[15:09] <ugarit> I successfully installed ubuntu 11.10-x86 (mini) in VMware and the machines reboots but I don't get a login prompt!  Only an underscore appears that changes from white to brown.  When I issue control-alt-del the machine reboots and I see the shutdown of processes.  How do I get the login prompt to appear?
[15:10] <oxygene> apt can't find status file in /var/lib/dpkg/status
[15:11] <dooma> thanks guys for help ...
[15:11] <BluesKaj> ugarit, do you get a grub menu ?
[15:12] <ugarit> BluesKaj no, but Ubuntu 11.10 appears for a few seconds
[15:12] <BluesKaj> ugarit, try holding down the left shift key right after the bios screen until grub appears
[15:13] <BluesKaj> !nomodeset | ugarit
[15:13] <stilia-johny> hi there
[15:14] <deathspike> I don't get it, why don't themes become available to select after installing?
[15:15] <escott> sphearion, sorry i have no ideas
[15:15] <sphearion> escott: me neither, its really weird, I just tried on 4 other servers and eyes works on every one along with $DISPLAY being set upon login, of course they are all centos machines.
[15:19] <Julien_D> Hi there. I tried to get the public key for http://archive.debian.org "sudo gpg --keyserver pgpkeys.mit.edu --recv-key  AED4B06F473041FA" but it doesn't work. The command ends with "keyserver timed out". Seems to be a network problem ? Is there a solution to download this key without using the shell ? From a web browser ?
[15:19] <deathspike> I installed this, http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/?content=148527, how can I activate the bloody theme?
[15:24] <escott> Julien_D, i always find i have to manually download from keyserver.ubuntu.com
[15:28] <streulma> I have a question, should I use Windows, Mac os x, or Ubuntu on my mac?
[15:28] <auronandace> streulma: only you can answer that question
[15:28] <DJones> streulma: You're asking in an Ubuntu channel, you should use whichever suits you best
[15:30] <daoudonek> Hello all, I currently experience a weird bug with my natty: filetypes are either not written or not detected, so for instance whenever I try to use a given file, it tries to open it with gedit, which is a bit annoying. Anyone knows anythning about such a bug ?
[15:30] <RPkS> Hi, I'm moving from 10.04 to 12.04, do I need to do a fresh install or can I upgrade?
[15:32] <DJones> RPkS: You can upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04, although if you're not in a rush, I'd suggest waiting until 23rd August when the LTS versions will automaticallty be offered the choice to upgrade when 12.04.1 is released
[15:33] <kennyvb> RPkS: a clean install never hurts, but upgrade is good to. it's a matter of choice really when it comes to ubuntu imo
[15:34] <RPkS> DJones: I need to go ahead and make the change, I have some messy partitions and I'm not sure if I can clean and resize the partitions without drama or not. lol
[15:35] <hololight> I just got a very cryptic message in dmesg.... maybe someone could shed some light for me. Google seems to point to some sort of apparmor denial.... but that doesn 't explain much. Using 10.04 lts: type=1502 audit(1343057255.449:36):  operation="chmod" pid=2070 parent=1 profile="/usr/sbin/nmbd" requested_mask="w::" denied_mask="w::" fsuid=0 ouid=0 name="/var/log/samba/cores/"
[15:35] <arielsanflo> #ubuntu-es
[15:35] <DJones> RPkS: In that case, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades#Upgrade_from_11.10_to_12.04_LTS_and_10.04_LTS_to_12.04_LTS just to make sure you're happy with the upgrade process
[15:39] <Wiz_KeeD> can someone tell me why i cannot view the www folder and it says i don't have permission when the owner and group is my user?
[15:40] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone?
[15:40] <NewWorld> Wiz_KeeD:  What does it return for `ls -al` on the folder?
[15:40] <RPkS> DJones: That official warning does look a little scary, but do you think I'm making a mistake if I follow the Upgrade over Network directions I might be in danger of serious problems?
[15:41] <Wiz_KeeD> i allready checked that many times
[15:41] <Wiz_KeeD> wiz:wiz
[15:41] <Wiz_KeeD> d-wxrwx--x  2 wiz  wiz      4096 Jul 23 17:18 www
[15:41] <Wiz_KeeD> allthough strangely enough
[15:41] <Wiz_KeeD> when it was root root i could enter it
[15:41] <Wiz_KeeD> and display yet i couldn't add to it
[15:41] <Wiz_KeeD> it's freaky...
[15:42] <dcullen> How do I tell if I'm running Unity 2D?
[15:42] <DJones> RPkS: I've never gone from 10.04 to 12.04, my machines are all running latest versions, I wouldn't anticipate a problem, but make sure you've got a backup just in case (I'd suggest that upgrading from any version)
[15:42] <ThinkT510> dcullen: hold down the super key
[15:42] <ThinkT510> dcullen: do you see a list of keyboard shortcuts?
[15:42] <NewWorld> Wiz_KeeD:  Try doing chmod u+r on it?
[15:43] <Wiz_KeeD> ok..
[15:43] <MacroMan> I'm trying to do a three monitor setup using 2 outputs on an nVidea card and a usb2vga adapater.
[15:44] <Wiz_KeeD> yes NewWorld you were right it works
[15:44] <Wiz_KeeD> problem is, idk if it will run
[15:44] <MacroMan> I have been using a 2 monitor setup fine configured with the gui. I have also managed to get the 3rd monitor working on it's own by using a xorg.conf file
[15:44] <NewWorld> Wiz_KeeD:  great)) run what?
[15:44] <Wiz_KeeD> apache is supposed to run the files there right?
[15:44] <dcullen> ThinkT510: If I tape the "super" key, I get the dashboard search thing. If I hold it down, I see numbers overlaid on top of the shortcut icons.
[15:45] <Wiz_KeeD> if i changed it to wiz:wiz shouldn't that issue a problem?
[15:45] <MacroMan> Problem is getting them all running together. What I really need is a 'Dump my current monitor config to a config file' functon
[15:45] <dcullen> ThinkT510: If I tap...
[15:45] <NewWorld> Wiz_KeeD:  Do you run Apache as root or wiz?
[15:45] <Wiz_KeeD> that i have no ideea i'm affraid :(
[15:45] <Wiz_KeeD> could be www-data or root or wiz
[15:45] <Wiz_KeeD> i installed it with apt-get install lamp-server^ phpmyadmin
[15:45] <ThinkT510> dcullen: if you just get the numbers holding the key down then you are in unity2d
[15:45] <Wiz_KeeD> initially as the aptitudie install put it, it was root
[15:46] <dcullen> OK, ThinkT510, thanks
[15:46] <micro8240> Hi all:)
[15:46] <dcullen> I wish there was a better way.
[15:46] <NewWorld> Wiz_KeeD:  Just try it and find out if it works
[15:47] <ThinkT510> dcullen: unity2d also uses metacity rather than compiz, so i suppose you could grep for metacity in ps aux
[15:47] <Wiz_KeeD> as i thought NewWorld Path "/var/www/magento/app/etc" must be writable.
[15:47] <arielsanflo> as placing the ubuntu repositories 12.10 from terminal
[15:47] <arielsanflo> help
[15:47] <NewWorld> Wiz_KeeD:  That's what Apache said?
[15:47] <Wiz_KeeD> magento installation
[15:48] <bazhang> arielsanflo, #ubuntu+1 for 12.10
[15:48] <dcullen> ThinkT510: Thanks. I see metacity. That is a much more reliable method, as the keyboard shortcut thing might change in an update.
[15:48] <vooze> My wifi is unstable, so to fix this I need to figure out which channel I should be on. My ISP ofcouse gave me some windows programs for that.. i'm looking for a program/script that i monitor my wifi and figure out which channel there is less noise on.. Can anyone help me here ? :D
[15:48] <IdleOne> arielsanflo: 12.10 is not released yet. discussion in #ubuntu+1
[15:48] <rez0r> so any idea why i cant install any packages in ubuntu 12.04?
[15:48] <IdleOne> rez0r: any error messages?
[15:48] <PizarroNET> hi all
[15:48] <rez0r> no the install button is grayed out
[15:48] <MacroMan> I've tried generating it using 'Xorg :1 -configure', but I get this error: 'Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices.'
[15:49] <IdleOne> rez0r: open a terminal and run: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:49] <NewWorld> Wiz_KeeD:  I don't know what magento is, but I use xampp and my /www is    drwxrwxrwx root root . But I set all the files inside /www to my normal user and group
[15:49] <rez0r> cant connect to the net
[15:49] <IdleOne> rez0r: close any GUI package managers and/or Software Centre
[15:49] <PizarroNET> I want to share data (files, pictures, videos, etc..) among 2-3 remote offices each one with a server. I have been checking solutions and found the Ubuntu Cloud server… can it be used to share the same storage space across the 3 servers? thanks.
[15:49] <dcullen> vooze: Have a look at iwconfig.
[15:49] <dcullen> vooze: You should be able to script iwconfig to get the information you want.
[15:49] <rez0r> having a problem with my wifi card, b43 issue
[15:49] <hololight> vooze: This wont really tell you about 'noise', but you can enter "sudo iwlist scan" in a terminal to see all AP's in the area and what channel they are on
[15:49] <IdleOne> rez0r: if you can't connect to the net, that explains not being able to download and install packages.
[15:50] <rez0r> i have the package i need to install
[15:50] <dcullen> oops, sorry, vooze, I meant iwlist. GAH!
[15:50] <rez0r> i dont need to download anything
[15:50] <IdleOne> rez0r: ok, so when you try to install it what happens?
[15:50] <rez0r> i cant click the install button
[15:50] <IdleOne> rez0r: sudo dpkg -i package-name.deb
[15:51] <rez0r> let me reboot into ubuntu and try that, gonna take a few minutes because i have to disable my wifi card in the bios just to boot ubuntu
[15:52] <rez0r> i tried editing the blacklist but it says i dont have permission, even though i log in as administrator
[15:52] <hololight> vooze: does that help?
[15:52] <quixotedon> hello,i'm having a unity crash
[15:52] <scrinterlocked> I installed Gnome 3 shell on my Ubuntu Precise Pangolin and installed the gnome-shell-extension-weather applet. The location needs a WOEID value which for my city (New Delhi) is 2295019 . But apparently, it doesn't update even after I punched it in.
[15:53] <scrinterlocked> How do I fix this?
[15:54] <jesseangell> Is there some recommended standard path for virtual hosts on the ubuntu apache2 package?
[15:56] <NewWorld> scrinterlocked:  Does it work with other WOEIDs?
[15:56] <scrinterlocked> NewWorld, I tried with Innsbruick's WOEID. And apparently it does.
[15:57] <scrinterlocked> Do I need to add some sort of prefix to the WOEID?
[15:57] <fabiano> Hello guys!
[15:57] <NewWorld> scrinterlocked:  If it pulls data for other WOEIDs, I guess use a nearby WOEID instead
[15:57] <scrinterlocked> I tried all the WOEIDS nearby my location.
[15:58] <scrinterlocked> And I called up the local weather station to know their WOEID.
[15:58] <fabiano> I am facing a problem here concerning a printer which I cannot add to system.
[15:58] <scrinterlocked> But it refuses to update.
[15:58] <fabiano> Could somoen help me please?
[15:58] <fabiano> Printer services seens not to be availabler.
[15:58] <fabiano> What can I do ?
[15:58] <NewWorld> scrinterlocked:  Find out where the app pulls the info from, maybe they currently aren't supplying info for that location
[15:58] <quixotedon> unity crashes at the time of bitdefender update, tried reinstalling but still doesn't work
[15:59] <scrinterlocked> NewWorld, well, the app came with the default WOEID for Insbruick for which it shows the information.
[15:59] <scrinterlocked> I tried with a couple of others like New York... and Bordeaux.
[15:59] <scrinterlocked> But that doesn't work either.
[15:59] <scrinterlocked> I suspect it's a bug in the applet?
[16:00] <fabiano> Sorry, got siconnected, could you repit please?
[16:00] <NewWorld> scrinterlocked:  Do you think maybe that the site it's pulling the info from doesn't have data for your location?
[16:00] <scrinterlocked> NewWorld, likely. But the fact that it can't pull out data for cities like New York or Paris doesn't convince me.
[16:01] <fabiano> When I first launch printer at control painels it asks me to show a CUPS server.
[16:01] <mencoli> how i access my homepage at localhost, i know my ip, my port 80 is open
[16:01] <scrinterlocked> fabiano, are you trying to add a network printer or a local?
[16:01] <fabiano> scrinterlocked, network
[16:01] <scrinterlocked> mencoli, you just type 127.0.0.1:80
[16:02] <scrinterlocked> Ensure that a web server is running.
[16:02] <scrinterlocked> or it won't show up a web page.
[16:02] <scrinterlocked> fabiano, click on add a new network printer.
[16:02] <scrinterlocked> And enter the NTP URL for the printer.
[16:02] <scrinterlocked> It should start with something like ntp://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[16:02] <fabiano> sorry, the printer is local
[16:03] <fabiano> it will host the printer, this machine will  host the printer.
[16:03] <scrinterlocked> Oh.
[16:03] <NewWorld> scrinterlocked:  Then sorry I don't know. I would try to find where the app stores it's output/error log. I'm not familiar with GNOME so can't help there
[16:03] <fabiano> I think CUPS got unstalled from this machine somehow.
[16:03] <d8bhatta> hello guys, I want to see what actually happen when I restart server i.e. in one terminal i will restart server and another tab I would like to see what actually happens during restart. How can i do this?
[16:03] <fabiano> Trying to reinstall it now.
[16:05] <mencoli> scrinterlocked i want to access externally
[16:06] <mencoli> scrinterlocked i want to access externally
[16:07] <scrinterlocked_> mencoli, you mean, you want to access a printer that is on network?
[16:07] <delinquentme> whats the .cbz compression option about?
[16:07] <Peanut> KAHR-Alpha: to get the equivalent surface areay, you'd need 4 dishes of 10m, 16 dishes of 5m etc...
[16:08] <Peanut> (wrong channel, sorry)
[16:09] <mencoli> scrinterlocked i want to access my homepage externally
[16:10] <trism> delinquentme: a cbz is just a zip file with numbered image files instead (for comic books)
[16:10] <delinquentme> Ohhh
[16:11] <delinquentme> so how many of these formats listed under my compression options are for general data compession?
[16:11] <delinquentme> and how does the .exe work? just creates something I can execute to unzip?
[16:13] <scrinterlocked__> delinquentme, .exe isn't a form of archive.
[16:13] <scrinterlocked__> It's an executable. Much like a .sh
[16:14] <delinquentme> yeah i wasnt sure if it was a self-executing unzipper
[16:14] <scrinterlocked__> but EXEs can have an archive inside them, just like .sh can have command to decompress an archive inside it.
[16:14] <MonkeyDust> exe is an executable, nut not for linux
[16:14] <MonkeyDust> b
[16:14] <scrinterlocked__> It isn't exactly a self-executing unzipper.
[16:14] <scrinterlocked__> A self executing unzipper is an executable. But not all executables are self-extracting archives.
[16:14] <scrinterlocked__> =).
[16:15] <scrinterlocked__> Because to automate processes, they need to be executables. And exe is just one of the executables for microsoft.
[16:15] <scrinterlocked__> =).
[16:15] <hydester> hi, virtualbox just broke from most recent kernel update on ubuntu precise.  vboxdrv setup dies silently.  narrowed it down to http://www.virtualbox.org/svn/vbox/trunk/src/VBox/Installer/linux/vboxdrv.sh.in in the line below the comment "# silently exit if the package was uninstalled but not purged,".  any ideas what may have happened? (besides telling me a package was uninstalled but not purged, of course)
[16:21] <no_gravity> Hello from Hamburg! Strange, when I have an SSH session open in a terminal and that terminal sends a lot of text (output of apt-get install gnome-core) my whole machine becomes unbearable slow. Even when I have the terminal minimized. Any idea why?
[16:22] <NewWorld> no_gravity:  Check `top` to see what is consuming CPU
[16:23] <NewWorld> maybe it's the terminal emulator rather than SSH
[16:23] <elijah> Hi guys, I have had this weird issue of my keychain not popping up on login anymore. It causes my SSH keys to stop working and also my Chromium lastpass to stop working. When I go to my keys and right click, unlock nothing happens. Currently I cannot use SSH with private keys or anything that requires the passwords and keys app. Any ideas?
[16:25] <javierf_> Hi! Something doesn't work fine in (my) ubuntu (12.04). Quite often, if I try to do something that takes quite a lot CPU (moments ago I tried openning a 32 mb xlsx file) it takes ages to open, everything (musics stops, cursors not moving fluently, can't move normally between apps,...) gets slow, can't do anything and it almost crash the system. Thing is, I understand is running something heavy and the system may become slow, but I don't get the feeling it
[16:25] <javierf_> ¡s working hard: the fan doesn't start sounding stronger, no more heat... in windows, I remember you felt the computer was "doing an effort". So ubuntu doesn't make it, it doesn't use all the power of my  4 processors and it never opens the file and nothing work. I try to manage CPU use with CPU-freq indicator, but even if I set it to "performance", nothing feels like has changed except the blue lines in the indicator indicating a "false performance". So
[16:25] <javierf_> meone understands me and know what can be happening? Thanks!
[16:25] <Peanut> elijah: Generally, run ssh (or even sshd) with debugging enabled, to see why it is unhappy about the keys. Check that .ssh, and directories higher up like your home directory, have not become group or world writeable.
[16:25] <FloodBot1> javierf_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:25] <elijah> Peanut: thanks, I will try that now
[16:25] <andrewh192> hey, quick question, how do i setup the sidebar launcher to autohide?
[16:26] <andrewh192> changed it before, but can't remember where the setting is to change it
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> andrewh192: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[16:26] <andrewh192> ActionParsnip: precise
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> andrewh192: http://www.tuxtree.com/2012/05/how-to-auto-hide-unity-in-ubuntu-12-04precise-pangolin.html
[16:28] <fabiano> Hello guys
[16:28] <fabiano> My printer now don't get out from Stopped state. What I have to do?
[16:29] <NewWorld> javierf_:  Maybe it's your HDD? I had a problem like that where the HDD was getting too old, things got a lot slower and some things would freeze. Also do you ever run out of RAM?
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> andrewh192  use MyUnity
[16:29] <andrewh192> MonkeyDust: ok
[16:33] <elijah> Peanut: "debug1: Unspecified GSS failure.  Minor code may provide more information - Credentials cache file '/tmp/krb5cc_1000' not found"
[16:33] <sinep> Hey, anyone feel like helping with a Wifi connection issue.  It's pretty advanced... probably file a bug report whenever I figure out what is wrong
[16:34] <elijah> Peanut: the gui prompt for me to enter my ssh key password is not appearing
[16:35] <elijah> Peanut: I did see that ~/.ssh had group write on, I removed write, still same issue
[16:35] <sinep> Guess I'll just describe it a bit, pm me if you become interested
[16:35] <d8bhatta> hi , I need to see what actually happen when I restart server i.e. in one terminal i will restart server and another tab I would like to see what actually happens during restart. How can i do this?
[16:36] <bazhang> !wifi | sinep ask here
[16:37] <robertzaccour>  I recently clicked cancel when the KDE Wallet prompt displayed to save the internet settings and now every time I boot up I have to go into the network settings to connect to the internet even though the connect automatically box is checked. Any suggestions?
[16:37] <NewWorld> d8bhatta:  tab of what? Your browser?
[16:37] <sinep> ubottu: The problem is that Ubuntu, and *buntu for the most part, cannot connect to the wifi network at LSU
[16:37] <d8bhatta> NewWorld:  CUI terminal
[16:38] <robertzaccour>  I recently clicked cancel when the KDE Wallet prompt displayed to save the internet settings and now every time I boot up I have to go into the network settings to connect to the internet even though the connect automatically box is checked. Any suggestions?
[16:38] <Peanut> Hi folks - I have an up-to-date Precise machine, and I'm trying to use hdparm to idle the drives. "hdparm -S 10 /dev/sdX" works, and idles the drive(s) as expected - but they don't spin up again when I access the disks. Controllers are LSI9211, drives Seagate ST2000DL003.
[16:38] <sinep> Kubuntu is the only Ubuntu based distrobution that can connect.
[16:39] <NewWorld> d8bhatta:  In the first tab, does it give you the output that you wanted it? You just want that output in the 2nd tab?
[16:39] <Qtr> Ubuntu is never used as an embedded OS right?
[16:40] <d8bhatta> NewWorld: 1st tab: sudo service tomcat6 restart     , 2nd tab: want to see what happens there during restart. I wonder something wrong is happening which i am not able to fin dout,
[16:40] <r0tha> Qtr: i mean it's basics could be
[16:41] <r0tha> but it'd be more work thanit's worth
[16:41] <Qtr> r0tha: do you know which linux-OS is used for embedded realtime?
[16:41] <r0tha> Qtr: no idea
[16:42] <nibbler_> Qtr, linux
[16:42] <NewWorld> d8bhatta:  Ohh, then sorry, idk
[16:42] <auronandace> Qtr: ask in ##linux
[16:42] <nibbler_> Qtr, but reformulate the question to not look to newbie ;-)
[16:43] <r0tha> Qtr: check out rasberrypi
[16:43] <r0tha> deals pretty cool
[16:43] <r0tha> seems to have the bare essentials of a *nix box
[16:44] <Qtr> im starting comp sci 2nd year in august and i want to get into embedded systems and i want to learn some linux. guess i shoudl just start with ubuntu?
[16:44] <Qtr> learn linux then go to something else?
[16:45] <Qtr> or learning ubuntu teaches you ubuntu and not linux?
[16:45] <sinep> Qtr: You should start with Arch Linux, imho
[16:46] <genii-around> Qtr: For embedded systems the kernel and other parts are usually highly optimised. You may want to check out Linux From Scratch
[16:46] <genii-around> !lfs
[16:46] <ssta> Qtr: also checkout RTLinux
[16:47] <genii-around> Qtr: Also there is a channel on Freenode called #edev which is to do specifically with embedded Linux devices which you may find useful
[16:47] <ssta> Qtr: there's also emdebian (debian specialised for embedded systems)
[16:50] <makerbrakr> hi, what package is libnl.so.3 located in?
[16:51] <ssta> makerbrakr: libnl-genl-3-200
[16:51] <makerbrakr> ssta, thanks, how/where can i look for that info?
[16:52] <makerbrakr> launchpad?
[16:52] <ssta> makerbrakr: I did it using dpkg -S.  There might be a way in launchpad
[16:52] <ssta> hmm, looks like I parsed it wrong too
[16:53] <ssta> libnl-3-200: /lib/libnl-3.so.200.3.0
[16:53] <ssta> that looks more likelyu
[16:53] <keirlav87> can anyone please show me an example of using cp to specify the destination directory
[16:53] <keirlav87> ?
[16:53] <ssta> keirlav87: cp foofile bardirectory/
[16:53] <i7c> ls -l  always says  total <number>  above the list. what is this? kilobytes?
[16:54] <keirlav87> ssta thanks
[16:54] <makerbrakr> i have a program that works on 11.10, but its not finding the shared library libnl.so.3
[16:54] <genii-around> keirlav87: cp /somewhere/the-original /someplace/the-copy
[16:55] <keirlav87> and if you wanted to copy the contents of a directory would it be  (cp -r /my/dir /destination/dir)?
[16:55] <ssta> makerbrakr: totl number of filesystem blocks used.  How much that is in bytes depends on the filesystem parameters
[16:55] <javierf_> NewWorld, don't think is the HDD, I've tested and it's fine (and quite new). But how do I know if I run out of RAM. Don't think is that neither, I've 4Gb RAM, not so old my laptop...
[16:56] <ssta> keirlav87: yes, but that would put the data into destination/dir/dir/
[16:56] <genii-around> keirlav87: In that case you don't need to specify the directory name you are already copying, just the parent one you want to put it in
[16:56] <genii-around> ( in the destination section )
[16:57] <keirlav87> right, so -r will create the directory name i am copying?
[16:57] <ssta> keirlav87: it copies the whole directory recursively, so yes
[16:57] <genii-around> keirlav87: Yes
[16:58] <keirlav87> is there a way to copy the contents of a directory, but inside a new directory name?
[16:58] <NewWorld> javierf_:  `free -m` the actualy free ram is what's next to buffers/cache . I would check CPU/HDD usage while the PC is in it's frozen state to see what's happening
[16:59] <ssta> keirlav87: yes, but it's probably easier to copy the old name and rename it afterwards
[16:59] <keirlav87> yeah that makes sense, thanks :)
[17:00] <ssta> keirlav87: you can: cp -r /from/dir/* /to/somewhere/ -- but that won't copy dotfiles in the root of /from/dir
[17:00] <Guest92339> Hi, someone could say me why I can't find my usb modem in /dev/ ? The hardware is supported by usbmodeswitch driver
[17:02] <Guest92339> I've loaded module giving this command:"sudo modprobe usbserial vendor=0x1004 product=0x607f"
[17:05] <andrewh192> what's the site address that has backgrounds and other themes for ubuntu?
[17:05] <andrewh192> I thought it was launchpad.net, but that's for error tracking stuff
[17:06] <andrewh192> it was a default main area for themes, and whatnot on ubuntu.
[17:06] <xangua> gnome-look.org andrewh192
[17:06] <andrewh192> xangua: kewl
[17:06] <andrewh192> thanx
[17:07] <east___> is there a thing like HUD for kde?
[17:10] <Turingi> Any idea for a console command to convert a bunch of unprintable .pdf files into printable ones?
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> east___: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/02/appmenu-runner-hud-like-functionality.html
[17:10] <keirlav87> if i have a php project that I orginally created in windows is there a way to put that directory in www dir, I'm trying at the moment but i'm gettinga  permissions error presumably because of the file system from windows to linux?
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> keirlav87: is that when you are trying to copy the file over?
[17:11] <genii-around> Turingi: It begs the question of why are they unprintable in the first place
[17:11] <keirlav87> no after I copy it, I had to use sudo before my cp command just to copy it
[17:11] <Turingi> genii-around: class notes, paranoid lecturer
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> keirlav87: is it readable by all?
[17:12] <keirlav87> I think so, is there a way I can check
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> ls -l /path/to/file   what is output?
[17:13] <keirlav87> I don't seem to be able to copy anything into the www dir or its subdirs without using sudo comman in the terminal, is that normal?
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> keirlav87: yes, its not owned by your user
[17:13] <ssta> keirlav87: yes.  It's usually owned by www-data
[17:13] <ssta> or root
[17:15] <geobila> in smplayer, is gl-ati fast consider better rendering than xv or the other options?
[17:15] <keirlav87> when I use the command parsnip just gave me on the folder I am copying from the users are keir keir which should be myself right?
[17:16] <keirlav87> ah but after copying, the same command shows the owner to be root root
[17:17] <keirlav87> the same command but on the dir within www is root root i should say
[17:17] <geobila> in smplayer, is gl-ati fast consider better rendering than xv or the other options?
[17:17] <keirlav87> can this be changed?
[17:17] <genii-around> keirlav87: If it's under /var/www the owner should be www-data
[17:18] <genii-around> keirlav87: You can change the owner and group by: sudo chown www-data: /path/last-containing-directory/*
[17:19] <keirlav87> this is an example of a line returned from the ls -l command after copying into var/www :
[17:19] <keirlav87> [HTML]
[17:19] <keirlav87> # by Tomasz Karbownicki <tomasz@karbownicki.com>
[17:19] <keirlav87> # top
[17:19] <keirlav87> html5=<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html lang="en">\n<head>\n\t<meta charset="utf-8" />\n\t<title>%cursor%</title>\n</head>\n<body>\n\t%cursor%\n</body>\n</html>
[17:19] <keirlav87> html=<html lang="%cursor%">\n\t%cursor%\n</html>
[17:19] <FloodBot1> keirlav87: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:19] <Eagleman> Are there any WEB interfaces you guys recommend for KVM?
[17:20] <genii-around> keirlav87: If you have additional subdirectories under "/last-containing-directory/" use the -R for recursive
[17:21] <Turingi> What's a ghostscript command to print all .pdf files in the current folder into pdf files? It's to convert a bunch of unprintable pdf docs into printable ones.
[17:21] <Shogoot> is it possible to "downgrade" ubuntu to lubuntu?
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> Shogoot: installing a different desktop isn't a downgrade
[17:21] <geobila> Shogoot clean install or install the lubuntu-desktop
[17:21] <Turingi> unless perhaps there's a utility that just removes the unprintable flags from pdf docs
[17:22] <Shogoot> so the diff isint more then the desktop.... ok good to know
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> Shogoot: just install lubuntu-desktop and you can choose which you use when you log in
[17:22] <coin3d> Eagleman: would like to know that too
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> Shogoot: yes the underlying OS is identical, just the default desktop and apps are different.
[17:22] <Eagleman> Are there any WEB interfaces you guys recommend for KVM?
[17:23] <islandmonkey> Just installing lubuntu-desktop is much easier than installing a whole distro (Lubuntu in this case).
[17:23] <Eagleman> coin3d i've found this one so far:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vG0t25wZEI&feature=player_embedded
[17:23] <geobila> ActionParsnip do you know what output is  consider best for ati cards in smplayer?
[17:23] <genii-around> Turingi: You need to know the password they used first
[17:23] <Turingi> genii-around: I can print it from ubuntu document viewer just fine
[17:23] <Turingi> genii-around: the problem is there are hundreds of documents to process
[17:23] <coin3d> Eagleman: doesnt look like a web interface
[17:24] <Turingi> genii-around: so was looking for a batch way to do it
[17:24] <Eagleman> coin3d there is also a webinterface
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> geobila: the player is pretty irrelevant, it's the output methods and such that you use
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> geobila: are you using kde?
[17:25] <XiRoN> I just opened 100 socat application on my system instead of killing them all individually how else can I close them all?
[17:25] <XiRoN> IE KILL
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> XiRoN: killall socat
[17:26] <XiRoN> Thank you <3
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> XiRoN: sweet
[17:27] <geobila> ActionParsnip i use mint, but noone in the mint  channel knows anything
[17:27] <coin3d> Eagleman: really strange that there arent a dozen open source webinterfaces out there for kvm
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> geobila: mint isn't supported here
[17:27] <geobila> i know mate but thats not the issue
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> geobila: its channel policy
[17:27] <geobila> smplayer and any other player works fine on both distros
[17:27] <islandmonkey> !ot geobilla
[17:27] <Eagleman> coin3d there are, found this list: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Management_Tools
[17:27] <Eagleman> tell me if you find anything you like :P
[17:27] <genii-around> Turingi: Does lpr filename.pdf print one successfully?  If so you can use wildcard for the name
[17:27] <islandmonkey> !ot | geobilla
[17:28] <Turingi> genii-around: I have no physical printer attached
[17:28] <reda> Salut
[17:28] <geobila> smplayer and any other player works fine on both distros
[17:28] <coin3d> Eagleman: yea i know that list, but most of them are either closed source or even commercial
[17:29] <LjL> geobila: you can keep saying that, but that doesn't make Mint supported here. try ##linux for distribution-agnostic support. here you get support if you're using Ubuntu
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> geobila: they work in fedora too, doesn't mean its supported here
[17:29] <genii-around> Turingi: So when you are "printing" them from document viewer, it is to where?
[17:29] <Turingi> genii-around: printing to a pdf file
[17:30] <reda> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Reda-Bousserhane/184368414952245
[17:30] <reda> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Reda-Bousserhane/184368414952245
[17:30] <FloodBot1> reda: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:30] <reda> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Reda-Bousserhane/184368414952245
[17:30] <genii-around> Turingi: So you probably need to use pdfcrack
[17:30] <killer> is ia32-libs important for wine in ubuntu 64 bit installation to run games?
[17:30] <reda> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Reda-Bousserhane/184368414952245https://www.facebook.com/pages/Reda-Bousserhane/184368414952245
[17:30] <reda> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Reda-Bousserhane/184368414952245
[17:30] <reda> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Reda-Bousserhane/184368414952245
[17:30] <FloodBot1> reda: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:31] <Eagleman> what is this spam lol
[17:31]  * genii-around slides LjL a nice coffee
[17:31] <dougb> does anyone have a guide to change the proxy settings in ubuntu server? i'm on 120.04.  Everything I find shows instructions using Gnome
[17:31] <dougb> *12.04, not 120.04
[17:31] <grendal> anyone using powerdns?
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> killer: just install wine and and the required packages will be installed, on any arch
[17:31] <LjL> genii-around: slide my client some lubricant oil or something please, so it doesn't take me half a minute to set up a ban ;(
[17:32] <beandog> dougb: I think its usually application specific
[17:32] <grendal> and is so have you ever implimented a filtering system with it.
[17:32] <beandog> maybe not though
[17:32] <escott> dougb, many applications look at (ftp|http)(s)_proxy environment variables
[17:32] <coin3d> Eagleman: do you use libvirt?
[17:32] <beandog> that was gonna be my other guess ... environment variables
[17:32] <Eagleman> coin3d no idea
[17:32] <killer> in ubuntu 32bit some apps worked flawlessly but it is not the case in 64 bit thatz why i m asking:ActionParsnip
[17:33] <Eagleman> i'm just looking for some web interfaces for when i am gonna switch to kvm, i am currently using virtualbox
[17:33] <dougb> ok, i'll look into http_proxy.  one guide said to type in 'export http_proxy' and it's supposed to show your settings, but nothing happened
[17:33] <dougb> i know for a fact i'm running through a proxy, because when i installed ubuntu i inputed the information
[17:34] <Jagst3r15> Im trying to watch a movie on youtube but it says I need to install HAL
[17:34] <Jagst3r15> I did sudo apt-get install hal but it isnt working
[17:34] <dougb> ahh i found it, it was in /etc/apt/apt.conf
[17:34] <escott> dougb, the syntax is export http_proxy="http://whatever:port"
[17:34] <dust> Jul 23 16:52:02 <dust>	i want to change the update time... i installed cron-apt but now i have 2 times the update... my question is, where can i change my daily update time? ... maybe i missed an answer?
[17:36] <mang0> Hey. I've always had a bit of a problem with my WiFi card (Broadcom), but I've managed to fix it by using b43-fwcutter, as on the wiki page about it. However, I've just updated to 64-bit 12.04 from 32-bit 12.04 (new comp) and tried the b43-fwcutter, but it only worked till I rebooted. Now it doesn't work at all...it detects the network, tries to connect, asks for the WPA2 key, and then...
[17:36] <mang0> ...doesn't connect. What can I do?
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> mang0: what if you run:  sudo modprobe b43
[17:37] <genii-around> Turingi: Alternately set up cups-pdf driver for a virtual printer that just prints to pdf files, then use the lpr filename / lpr *   method
[17:37] <Qtr> So when learning linux, what should I learn? I want to get into embedded systems later in my education and i start by learning linux. So first I learn just using it obv. But then what do you suggest?
[17:37] <mang0> ActionParsnip: Gimme a moment, the computer is upstairs and my closest comp with net is downstairs :P
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> Qtr: just use the OS for now
[17:38] <Eagleman> Qtr setup a server with several things
[17:38] <Eagleman> a website, storage
[17:38] <mang0> ActionParsnip: Nothing happens.
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> mang0: if you run:  sudo iwlist scan    do you see networks?
[17:39] <mneptok> Qtr: not really a question specific to Ubuntu support, so offtopic in this channel.
[17:39] <mang0> ActionParsnip: trying, sec
[17:40] <dg1727> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1984949 - When does language-selector run?  Any comments?
[17:40] <mang0> ActionParsnip: Yeah I do
[17:41] <genii-around> Qtr: If your goal is to design and use embedded Linux systems, I recomment to visit the #edev channel as I mentioned previously, that is specifically what that channel is for
[17:41] <genii-around> Bleh, typos
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> mang0: then run:  echo "b43" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules > /dev/null
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> mang0: it will load at boot :)
[17:42] <mang0> ActionParsnip: Oh, really? Neat, thankyou
[17:43] <Peacock> hello guys, i have a question. is there any way to turn off the trackpad on my laptop?
[17:46] <Qtr> on vmware, should i run 32bit or 64bit ubuntu if i have 64bit win7?
[17:46] <ska> Is there any benefit of using the VMware client from VMware.com over the apt version?
[17:46] <MasterOfDisaster> Qtr: depends on how much memory you want to assign to it
[17:47] <ska> I'm on 12.04 ubuntu..
[17:47] <ska> They look like the same version numbers.
[17:48] <AchlysEpithet> I just installed Ubuntu 12.04 precise pangolin and my 5.1 channel audio system isn't working. It only works with the front left and front right speakers.
[17:48] <AchlysEpithet> How do I solve it?
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> ska: there is no vmware in the repos
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> ska: there is virtualbox
[17:51] <Kalavera> greetings guys, I am trying to setup a sudoers.d directory inan ubuntu box
[17:51] <Kalavera> I have added the line #includedir /etc/sudoers.d and moved a file named user with 440 permissions into this directory
[17:51] <Kalavera> but it seems to not be reading it
[17:51] <Kalavera> do I need to reboot the server or what am I missing ?
[17:54] <ska> ActionParsnip: vmware is in some of the alternate packages. I just aptitude installed it.
[17:54] <mang0> ActionParsnip: Ugh, net still doesn't work, even after rebooting
[17:55] <ska> apt-cache show vmware-view-client
[17:55] <peto1> my vlc doesn't show  me video, it gave me a problem saying required resolution is different something like that
[17:55] <peto1> ^ anybody knows why?
[17:56] <NewWorld> peto1:  supply the full error msg
[17:56] <Kalavera> whois ska
[17:57] <ska> Kalavera: who knows...
[17:58] <Turingi> genii-around: alright, I found what I was looking for http://pastebin.com/rF1npD9p
[17:58] <peto1> NewWorld: I don't know how to reproduce it , all I know is that it won't show me video and and I am using lubuntu
[17:59] <peto1> I experince graphics problems
[17:59] <NewWorld> peto1:  does the same file play in anther player?
[17:59] <genii-around> Turingi: Cool, nice to share the solution you found to help others also
[18:00] <peto1> when I was using ubuntu hardy, yes it was playing , under vlc , totem and many other players
[18:00] <Kalavera> skaet: laughs good answer
[18:00] <Kalavera> ska
[18:01] <Kalavera> actually I am having troubles setting up sudoers.d/
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> mang0: if you load the module manually, is it ok
[18:01] <Kalavera> has anyone faced this issue before?
[18:01] <mang0> ActionParsnip: And by what command do you mean?
[18:01] <mbalmer> Kalavera, what is the problem?
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> peto1: have you tried switching output methods in the settings>
[18:02] <Kalavera> mbalmer: I have created the sudoers.d directory and assigned 750 to it
[18:02] <keirlav87> loving ubuntu so far - really need to read some dummies guide to it though
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> mang0: sudo modprobe b43    like before...remeber.....
[18:02] <Kalavera> mbalmer: then created a file user and assigned perms 440 to it
[18:02] <Qtr> ok, thats was easy! ubuntu is almost running on vmware
[18:02] <Kalavera> mbalmer: then includea a line #includedir /etc/sudoers.d into the sudoers file at the end of it
[18:02] <keirlav87> qtr: is vmware free?
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> !vmware
[18:03] <mang0> ActionParsnip: Oh right. No, it doesn't
[18:03] <Kalavera> mbalmer: but for some reason it seems to not be reading the file into the sudoers.d directory
[18:03] <keirlav87> thanks parsnip
[18:03] <mbalmer> Kalavera, and if you chmod 770 /etc/sudoers.d ?
[18:03] <peto1> yes I tried one or two, ActionParsnip
[18:04] <Kalavera> mbalmer: let me try
[18:04] <Kalavera> mbalmer: mmmm nop! same issue
[18:05] <mbalmer> get an error message?
[18:05] <Kalavera> nop, it ask me for the user password when it should be climbing up into root
[18:06] <Kalavera> actually it is an Ubuntu 8.04.1
[18:06] <Guest54658> hello
[18:06] <peto1> performcance is horrible
[18:07] <Kalavera> mbalmer: have reviewed auth.log and messages looking for some errors pointing me to any error but it hasn't showed me any
[18:07] <Eagleman> coin3d i've found this one for ubuntu: http://www.convirture.com/products_opensource.php
[18:07] <dnewkirk> I'm having trouble using sftp into a machine running 12.04. I get the subsystem, request failed on channel 0 error. I uninstalled and reinstalled openssh-server, and locate sftp-server shows locations of /usr/lib/sftp-server and /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server. I've never had this issue before, and google isn't helping much :/.
[18:07] <peto1> I am thinking about another lightweight desktop, but before that let me ask you , is Pangoline Precise good enough?
[18:08] <peto1> or should I switch back to some old desktop, so far ubuntu Hardy has given me better performance , except for memory requirements where lubuntu has succeeeded in cutting ti down by 1/3rd
[18:09] <Eagleman> peto1 try Lubuntu
[18:09] <beandog> or xubuntu
[18:10] <peto1> Eagleman: I was talking about Lubuntu, I am using lubuntu , and my computer hangs like MSWindows
[18:10] <tosh_laptop> Hello all. Can anyone suggest how to keep my external monitor on, when I close my laptop's lid? I'm running icewm on Ubuntu 12.04. Any advice is appreciated.
[18:10] <schultza> After an HPLIP update, I have an HP LaserJet 3300 connected via USB to a Ubuntu 12.
[18:10] <peto1> in fact when something wrong happens it behaves exactly like windows
[18:10] <Eagleman> peto1 join #lubuntu
[18:10] <Eagleman> this channel is for ubuntu
[18:11] <peto1> yea, ,  i am already there, they are fast asleep
[18:11] <schultza> After an HPLIP update, I have an HP LaserJet 3300 connected via USB to a Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 32 bit computer... the printing is slow. Any ideas?
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> peto1: are other players ok?
[18:11] <Eagleman> haha, well i dont know a thing about lubuntu so i cant help you
[18:11] <MasterOfDisaster> schultza: slow between pages?
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> schultza: try deleting the printer, power it off then reboot and reattach it and so forth
[18:12] <ThinkT510> Eagleman: lubuntu can be supported here too
[18:12] <schultza> it takes forever to start printing.. the user says it takes a long time...
[18:12] <schultza> ok.. will do that after further updates to the system
[18:12] <DJones> Eagleman: This channel is for any of the official Ubuntu variants
[18:12] <MasterOfDisaster> schultza: try switching from ipp to socket
[18:12] <Eagleman> Aha ok
[18:12] <schultza> it's setup using direct USB:// interface
[18:12] <MasterOfDisaster> ah - oops
[18:13] <m1chael> hi, installing nvidia driver makes gnome 3 loose acceleration and stutters. with intel drivers no issue. can somebody tell me how to make gnome 3 use nvidia driver properly?
[18:14] <Guest54658> what system
[18:14] <tosh_laptop> is editing /etc/defaults/acpi-defaults OK to fix my screen problem?
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> m1chael: is it a hybrid video chip system?
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> tosh_laptop: make a backup of the file first, then you can easily roll back
[18:14] <m1chael> ActionParsnip, ubuntu 11.10 nvidia not integrated, intel builtin i5 gpu
[18:15] <tosh_laptop> since I'm running icewm, do I want to set SUSPEND_METHODS="none" ? (And yes, I backed up the file)
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> m1chael: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[18:15] <mang0> ActionParsnip: So, any idea about my net problem?
[18:16] <peto1> ActionParsnip: there is one player gnome player , but it won't play because I haven't installed , codecs, somebody here suggested I should use vlc, I asked for the codecs, so that I could use other player as well, but then everybody wnet silent
[18:16] <peto1> oh
[18:16] <peto1> there
[18:16] <Jagst3r15> Im having a heck of an issue with google chrome, I cannot get hal to work :c
[18:18] <m1chael> ActionParsnip, don't just throw in the air go to hybrid graphics, listen first. installed nvidia driver from their site. turned off intel driver system starts and works. google earth glxgears and more gl stuff works including vdpau. gnome 3 stutters and seems to use more cpu power(conclusion falls back to cpu) how to make it use nvidia instead?
[18:21] <m1chael> does anybody knows if gnome 3 can use nvidia acceleration? it seems gnome and proprietary drivers don't seem to get along too well
[18:23] <JessicaW> howdy. Looking for suggestions for user auditing software for ubuntu 10.04
[18:23] <Jagst3r15> m1chael try bumblebee or something
[18:24] <m1chael> Jagst3r15, why?
[18:25] <AlexM2013> can someone tell me what this does, Its to my home music server: http://mgh2server.tk/subsonic
[18:25] <Jagst3r15> because it allows you to run only things you want with acceleration, unless thats not what you are asking
[18:26] <m1chael> gnome 3 nvidia drivers stutter, known issue or somekind of a gnome fix?
[18:26] <AlexM2013> I can't see what it does because im inside my router
[18:26] <AlexM2013> http://mgh2server.tk/subsonic
[18:26] <bogdan56> salve
[18:27] <bogdan56> avrei bisognio di supporto per Ubunutu
[18:27] <bogdan56> chi mi aiuta ?
[18:28] <MasterOfDisaster> !it
[18:28] <schultza> after updates.. rebooting computer fixed the printer issue i was having
[18:29] <bogdan56> thanks so much
[18:31] <r3dLunchb0x_>  using ubuntu server 11.04, server was rebooted, no default route came up with network. I checked /etc/network/interfaces and the "gateway 192.168.1.1" line is there. Anything else I need to check?
[18:31] <m1chael> gnome 3 nvidia drivers stutter, known issue or somekind of a gnome fix?
[18:32] <Qtr> is a light globe a short circuit?
[18:32] <m1chael> r3dLunchb0x_, what's the setup?
[18:33] <genii-around> Qtr: That's not really an Ubuntu support question
[18:33] <gurifisuu> when i do which cake it points to /usr/bin/cmake but I want to use a differently compiled cake that I made in ~/myowncmake/cmake
[18:33] <gurifisuu> which cmake*
[18:33] <gurifisuu> how do I change this
[18:33] <gurifisuu> i tried exporting path
[18:33] <AlexM2013> Can someone please tell me what this does! I need to know if i did it right, thank you: mgh2server.tk
[18:34] <Reaga> i worry about ubuntu
[18:34] <m1chael> gurifisuu, check for cmake flag like CC="gcc" ./configure
[18:34] <bsm117532> With linux 3.4 or 3.5 on ubuntu, I'm having the problem that my (usb) keyboard isn't recognized (doesn't work on console and no numlock).  Any clue why this would happen?  Works fine with the default Precise kernel (3.2).
[18:34] <islandmonkey> Reaga: Why do you worry about Ubuntu?
[18:35] <gurifisuu> m1chael: what
[18:35] <gurifisuu> ?
[18:35] <ThinkT510> bsm117532: we can't support newer kernels
[18:35] <m1chael> gurifisuu, what are you trying to compile|
[18:35] <m1chael> gurifisuu, what are you trying to compile?
[18:35] <bsm117532> Is this some official support channel?  I was just wondering if anyone else had seen that.
[18:35] <gurifisuu> nm
[18:35] <m1chael> bsm117532, lol
[18:36] <user> can someone verify my ubuntu 12.04 iso??? md5 hash?
[18:36] <islandmonkey> bsm117532: You sure are in the right place
[18:36] <beandog> bsm117532: I think it's more like "we can't really help you with scenarios most people don't run into"
[18:36] <ThinkT510> !lol | m1chael
[18:36] <islandmonkey> lol
[18:36] <beandog> annoying is subjective. -_-
[18:36] <bsm117532> Well if you haven't seen it, you don't have to respond...
[18:36] <user> can someone please help me verify my iso?
[18:36] <DJones> !hashes | user
[18:36] <MonkeyDust> bsm117532  the current kernel is 3.2, use any other at your own risk
[18:36] <bsm117532> Well no shit.
[18:36] <user> !hashes
[18:36] <beandog> bsm117532: oh, I agree.
[18:37] <user> thank you
[18:37] <bsm117532> I want to make it work, not hear what you have runnign.
[18:37] <beandog> bsm117532: and for the record, I don't have any clue why that would do that ... did you compile it yourself?
[18:37] <m1chael> gnome 3 nvidia drivers stutter, known issue or somekind of a gnome fix?
[18:37] <MonkeyDust> bsm117532  what you are running is not supported here, maybe in some other channel
[18:37] <bsm117532> no, these are from the ubuntu PPA, as well as the Quantal kenrel.
[18:37] <beandog> bsm117532: really?  pre-compiled?  Huh.  Now that is weird.
[18:37] <bsm117532> What is this "support" of which you speak?
[18:38] <islandmonkey> !repeat | m1chael
[18:38] <DJones> bsm117532: ppa's are unofficial, they are use at your own risk
[18:38] <beandog> bsm117532: does it work after the system has completely started up
[18:38] <bsm117532> I've now tried 3.4.6, 3.5.0 (from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/) as well as the Quantal 3.5.0 kernel, on 2 different computers, always get the same problem.
[18:38] <boghiu> hy everybody can anyone help me with ethernet controller???
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> bsm117532  idd and you won't find help or support in this channel
[18:38] <bsm117532> Quit yammering at me about how it's my problem.  If you don't know anything about this than STFU...
[18:39] <ThinkT510> bsm117532: if you are running 12.10 then go to #ubuntu+1
[18:39] <bsm117532> Ok then where does one go for Quantal...
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> bsm117532  know when to stop, you have come to the wrong channel for your problem
[18:39] <r3dLunchb0x_> michael_: what are you wanting specifically?
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> bsmith093  in #ubuntu+1
[18:40] <boghiu> hy everybody can anyone help me with ethernet controller???
[18:41] <bsdn> whaddap homies.. will unbuntu work on a P4/256 ram?
[18:41] <aethelrick> boghiu: ask your question
[18:41] <r3dLunchb0x_> m1chael_:what are you wanting to see specifically?
[18:41] <beandog> bsdn: yah
[18:41] <AlexM2013> Das ist uber ram
[18:41] <boghiu> i cant install my ethernet controller i just instaled ubuntu and i cant get connection
[18:41] <mr0wl> hey, does anyone know where i can grab packages for latest stable kernel 3.5 release?
[18:42] <mr0wl> for Precise 12.04
[18:42] <MonkeyDust> mr0wl  12.04 has kernel 3.2
[18:42] <ThinkT510> mr0wl: not supported if you use it
[18:42] <ThinkT510> !ppa | mr0wl
[18:42] <aethelrick> boghiu: wired or wireless? What have you tried so far, what fails?
[18:42] <boghiu> aethelrick: wired
[18:42] <islandmonkey> I'm sorry, but what is it with 3.5?
[18:43] <islandmonkey> Can't you just stay with 3.2?
[18:43] <boghiu> it tells to me that i am off line
[18:43] <aethelrick> boghiu: how many Ethernet controllers you got?
[18:43] <ThinkT510> islandmonkey: hype i think, it is recently released
[18:43] <boghiu> 1
[18:43] <m1chael> gnome 3 nvidia drivers stutter, known issue or can be fixxed?
[18:43] <islandmonkey> !repeat | m1chael
[18:43] <aethelrick> boghiu: what sort is it as well?
[18:44] <boghiu> asus m2n x
[18:44] <islandmonkey> I told you once and I'll tell you again
[18:44] <nadu> hi. can anyone recommend an esata express card?
[18:44] <mr0wl> ThinkT510: thanks
[18:44] <user> my md5 hash checks out fine….
[18:44] <Sfasfsfadsf> sooo
[18:45] <m1chael> nadu, go for cheap usb 3 case and usb 3 card on ebay
[18:45] <oxygene_> salut
[18:45] <CynepCupon> fdf
[18:45] <boghiu> salut
[18:45] <CynepCupon> sorry, checking my username
[18:45] <boghiu> oxygene_:  esti roman?
[18:45] <ThinkT510> !fr | oxygene
[18:45] <coin3d> nadu: from what i know there are only two chipsets: sil313x and jmb36x
[18:45] <coin3d> afaik both work with linux
[18:45] <Wumbel> boghiu: Check /etc/network/interfaces and check for auto eth0. Comment that out with a #. restart
[18:45] <CynepCupon> so if the md5 hash verifies, but the iso can't be recognized in osX?
[18:46] <nadu> m1chael: i already run my sata drives with usb, but it is so slow ;)
[18:46] <m1chael> nadu, go for cheap usb 3 case and usb 3 card on ebay
[18:46] <boghiu> hmm Wumbel  can u be more precise i dont understand what should i do?
[18:46] <boghiu> Wumbel: :(
[18:47] <keirlav87> wow what a polava i had getting something that you just take for granted in xampp - require_once - to work :P
[18:47] <m1chael> nadu, 625 MB/s in theory
[18:47] <andrewx> hello
[18:47] <Reindeernix> hey
[18:47] <islandmonkey> Hello there ;)
[18:47] <andrewx>  I wish to change my Bash prompt so that it takes effect in all bash terminals; not sure how to do this.
[18:47] <andrewx> I have the prompt I want to use; just how to make it permanent?
[18:47] <boghiu> Wumbel:  i create my connection but my cable is not rocognized that i should install my ethernect controller motherboard?
[18:48] <ThinkT510> !xampp | keirlav87
[18:48] <Wumbel> boghiu: check the file interfaces that is in /etc/network with a texteditor. Check for the entry auto eth0. Do a # in front of this line and restart.
[18:48] <m1chael> andrewx, check /etc/bash.bashrc
[18:48] <keirlav87> ThinkT510: :P I wasn't asking anything about xampp
[18:49] <boghiu> #
[18:49] <ThinkT510> keirlav87: sorry
[18:49] <nadu> m1chael: coin3d: i am currently testing my sata drives with a delock esata III express card (which should be a sil313x chipset). resyncing raid is much faster than with usb, but the controller always hangs within 10 minutes :(
[18:50] <nadu> maybe, because it is getting too hot
[18:50] <keirlav87> just saying with xampp you take it for granted that everything just works, now i've made the jump to ubuntu - which i'm very happy about, but you've got to roll your sleeves up and get stuck in to get everything working lol
[18:50] <Wumbel> boghiu: the network manager will not work if there is already an entry in interfaces.
[18:50] <m1chael> nadu what is the difference between these two setups, if you use mdadm it same with both
[18:50] <m1chael> nadu: what is the difference between these two setups, if you use mdadm it same with both
[18:50] <boghiu> Wumbel: wait a sec pls :)
[18:51] <m1chael> nadu, probably somekind of a bad card, usb3 has power built in for 2.5 hdds and has 625mega bytes in theory
[18:52] <m1chael> nadu, if you already have esata cases than check for simple sil3112
[18:52] <boghiu> Wumbel: i found etc/network and now it apeared some folders if-down.d if-post-down.d run and interfaces
[18:52] <andrewx> how do I refresh bash.bashrc ?
[18:52] <Wumbel> check the file interfaces
[18:52] <boghiu> Wumbel:  what should i do now?
[18:52] <m1chael> nadu, got almost 200mb with raid on it
[18:52] <Wumbel> open it
[18:52] <noofi> hi
[18:52] <nadu> m1chael: the difference is that resyncing with usb 2 takes more than two days and resyncing the raid with the esata controller should finish in less than a half day
[18:52] <boghiu> ok
[18:53] <boghiu> and now
[18:53] <Wumbel> read
[18:53] <boghiu> auto lo
[18:53] <Wumbel> nothing else?
[18:53] <boghiu> iface lo inet loopback
[18:53] <boghiu> nope
[18:53] <m1chael> nadu, i talk about usb 3
[18:53] <noofi> how to add windows domain users to sudoers in ubuntu 12.04?
[18:53] <Wumbel> ok, then its ok. I dont know what the problem is sorry
[18:54] <m1chael> nadu, get a cheap usb3 card for 10% if possible and a cheap case costs 5$ each
[18:54] <m1chael> nadu, ^10$
[18:54] <Alan_> Hi
[18:54] <Alan_> I have a problem when installing Ubuntu
[18:54] <boghiu> Wumbel: the problem is that i found i driver for my asus motherboard and i cant install it
[18:54] <m1chael> gnome 3 nvidia drivers stutter, known issue or can be fixxed?
[18:55] <boghiu> Wumbel: ethernet controller driver
[18:55] <Reindeernix> m1chael, have you upgraded to the newest nvidia driver and what card are you using?
[18:55] <undadmin> nick bob123ss
[18:55] <andrewx> is there a way to "restart" /etc/bash.bashrc ?
[18:55] <Wumbel> boghiu: I cant help with that, sorry.
[18:55] <boghiu> Wumbel: ok thx for your time
[18:56] <m1chael> Reindeernix, newest on a gtx 285 ubuntu 11.10. everything works except desktop acceleration.
[18:56] <bob123ss> I'm trying to access a ubuntu file system on another drive. I booted off a different usb install on a thumbdrive. I don't have write access to the drive even after opening up a nautilus as root...any ideas?
[18:56] <bob123ss> I need to replace the xorg.conf file
[18:56] <boghiu> is here anybode who can help me to install the ethernet driver pls????
[18:57] <m1chael> Reindeernix, never had this issue on 9.1 gnome 2 off course
[18:57] <Reindeernix> m1chael, when did it start? did you just install gnome-shell?
[18:57] <NeoX> alguien sabe como entrar en el servidor de terra?
[18:57] <boghiu> is here anybode who can help me to install the ethernet driver pls????
[18:57] <kroaken> hi all
[18:58] <andrewx> I must have done something right! haha
[18:58] <AlanTryingToInst> Hi guys, when I try to install Ubuntu, it hangs on the "Wireless" screen, despite the fact I told it not to connect to a wifi network, it just gives me a small circle with a spinning elipses.
[18:59] <AlanTryingToInst> Hi guys, when I try to install Ubuntu, it hangs on the "Wireless" screen, despite the fact I told it not to connect to a wifi network, it just gives me a small circle with a spinning elipses.
[18:59] <bob123ss> Anybody know how I can access files on another hard drive. I don't have write access.
[18:59] <m1chael> Reindeernix, it started since gnome 3 ubuntu 11.10 came out. since then i try everytime nvidia releases a new driver and it is same. finally got to the conclusion that the problem is with gnome and not nvidia. every time i uninstall nvidia and go back to intel i5 gpu
[18:59] <kroaken> hey everyone, i installed ubuntu and i startx after that blackscreen ?! oO
[18:59] <boghiu> is here anybode who can help me to install the ethernet driver pls????
[18:59] <kroaken> need help support plz
[19:00] <kroaken> choose ones and pkg_get install <ethernet_pkg>
[19:00] <kroaken> boghiu:
[19:00] <m1chael> m1chael, everything works pretty well except gnome desktop. btw, i've removed unity.
[19:00] <Reindeernix> m1chael, Well I didn't have any problems with my GTX 460 and I can't really see why it's happening
[19:00] <boghiu> kroaken: yes?
[19:00] <kroaken> boghiu: choose ones and pkg_get install <ethernet_pkg>
[19:01] <boghiu> kroaken:  where i can find this?
[19:01] <kroaken> Any ideia how to test the screen depth resolution ?!
[19:01] <JessicaW> Looking for suggestions for user auditing software for ubuntu 10.04
[19:01] <Qtr> isnt: sudo apt-get emacs ?
[19:01] <kroaken> before issuing the command startx and be forced to reboot ?!
[19:01] <Qtr> isnt it: sudo apt-get emacs ?
[19:01] <kroaken> oO
[19:02] <LjL> Qtr: no, "sudo apt-get install <packagename>"
[19:02] <AlanTryingToInst> Is anyone going to help me?
[19:02] <\Jan> apt-get install emacs
[19:02] <BluesKaj> boghiu, sudo dhclient eth0
[19:02] <boghiu> ok
[19:02] <kroaken> no Qtr its apt-get install emacs
[19:02] <m1chael> Reindeernix, it seems gnome3 prefers libGL.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1 and not nvidia ones
[19:03] <kroaken> someone help me plz, how do test my screen before issuing startx and be forced to reboot ?!
[19:03] <Stavros> hello
[19:03] <\Jan> AlanTryingToInst: you can try to rfkill or ifconfig down your wireless
[19:03] <\Jan> if you're not using
[19:03] <kroaken> i-m getting blackscreen
[19:03] <\Jan> err, *if you're not using it
[19:03] <boghiu> BluesKaj:  nothing happnes
[19:03] <AlanTryingToInst> What's rfkill?
[19:04] <Stavros> i'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04 64 bit on a macbook using EFI on btrfs, but grub says "unknown filesystem"
[19:04] <Guest28117> hello people.
[19:04] <\Jan>        rfkill - tool for enabling and disabling wireless devices
[19:04] <BluesKaj> boghiu, ifup eth0
[19:04] <kroaken> boghiu i'm out of systems
[19:04] <ubuntu_user> hello people I'm using ubuntu 12 and can't figure out how to enable multiverse to install mplayer
[19:04] <kroaken> otherwise i would help you
[19:05] <nadu> m1chael: thx. i am already looking for a usb3 adapter and will probably consider bying one
[19:05] <AlanTryingToInst> Woah I can't do that my entire house is practically held up by my internet connection D:
[19:05] <\Jan> 14:59.06 < AlanTryingToInst> Hi guys, when I try to install Ubuntu, it hangs on the "Wireless" screen, despite the fact I told it not to connect to a wifi  network, it just gives me a small circle with a spinning elipses.
[19:05] <\Jan> If you're not going to connect to the wifi...
[19:06] <boghiu> BluesKaj:  ifup: failed to open statefile /run/network/ifstate: permission is denied
[19:06] <m1chael> gnome 3 with nvidia drivers stutter, everything else works quiet well can anybody help
[19:06] <kroaken> anyone ? *D
[19:06] <AlanTryingToInst> Eh, I'll try to think of a work around.
[19:06] <BluesKaj> boghiu, then, sudo ifup
[19:07] <AlanTryingToInst> Linux is so complicated compared to Windows D:
[19:07] <Linix> Guys, does the command: "kill -9 -1" restart you wireless?
[19:07] <\Jan> no
[19:07] <Stavros> Linix, no
[19:07] <boghiu> BluesKaj: - - help for help what should i do now?
[19:07] <\Jan> that shuts down your system Linix
[19:07] <kroaken> who wanna help me setting up my X env !?
[19:07] <\Jan> if I recall correectly
[19:07] <BluesKaj> boghiu, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[19:08] <kroaken> I just need to know how do I test X env without beeing forced to reboot ?!
[19:08] <ubuntu_user> help, enable multiverse new ubuntu installing mplayer
[19:08] <Linix> AlanTryingToInst: No, you just have to accept that Linux is Linux and you can't try to use it thinking about Windows, it's a long process but in the end it does pay off and you'll never regret using it. Linux is Linux, Windows is Windows.
[19:08] <\Jan> AlanTryingToInst: that was a work around; all it does it turn off the wireless on your machine
[19:08] <boghiu> BluesKaj: done now?
[19:09] <Linix> \Jan: No, that kills everything witch forces Ubuntu to start everything up, but I think it does kill the networking
[19:09] <BluesKaj>  open network manager , and try to connect, boghiu
[19:09] <boghiu> BluesKaj ok
[19:10] <\Jan> Linix: From the man page of `kill'
[19:10] <\Jan>        kill -9 -1
[19:10] <\Jan>               Kill all processes you can kill.
[19:10] <AlanTryingToInst> Done what you said, I've unticked the Wireless Networking yet it's still hanging, and yes I have restarted the installation.
[19:10] <\Jan> and if you were root, that'd kill everything including init, which would either make you restart or shut down, I'm not sure which
[19:10] <Linix> \Jan: is there a way to restart networking without restarting my pc?
[19:11] <\Jan> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[19:11] <BluesKaj> Linix,, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[19:11] <Linix> Thanks guys!
[19:11] <Qtr> why is the keyboard different in Ubuntu? Maybe it is non-scandinavian standard, how do i change?
[19:12] <AlanTryingToInst> Done what you said, I've unticked the Wireless Networking yet it's still hanging, and yes I have restarted the installation.
[19:12] <myung> inxi -F
[19:12] <BluesKaj> Guest11095, why the guest nick ?
[19:12] <myung> how do i find
[19:12] <myung> the wireless drivers I need for linux?
[19:13] <dg1727_> AlanTryingToInst:  based on your comment "my house is practically held up by my internet connection" - rfkill affects only the wireless hardware on your Ubuntu PC/laptop - not your household Internet modem
[19:13] <Linix> myung: Connect your computer to a ethernet cable, then go to additional drivers and you'll probably see the option to download the wireless driver
[19:13] <AlanTryingToInst> Ahh okay.
[19:13] <AlanTryingToInst> Do I send the command via Terminal
[19:13] <dg1727_> But you will need to open a terminal window in order to issue an "rfkill" command
[19:13] <AlanTryingToInst> Okay.
[19:14] <myung> Linix, but how do I know which driver I need?
[19:14] <dg1727_> AlanTrying:  there is some very short help text at "rfkill help"
[19:15] <myung> Linix, i have crunchbang and I'm pretty new to this
[19:15] <AlanTryingToInst> I'm guessing I use "rfkill block" ?
[19:15] <myung> I cant find additional drivers either :S
[19:15] <Linix> myung: the additional drivers which can be found on the menu or on the settings will automatically discover which ones it needs i they are available.
[19:15] <dg1727_> AlanTrying:  to use the "block" or "unblock" subcommands you will need to use "sudo rfkill ..."
[19:15] <BluesKaj> myung, they might be called restricted drivers
[19:15] <dg1727_> AlanTrying:  let me check something
[19:15] <myung> I am running crunchbang and I can't find anything :S
[19:15] <\Jan> myung: when you do `lspci -nn | grep -i wireless` in your terminal, what are the digits in the [ ]s?
[19:16] <keirlav87> Thanks for all the help i've had in here today, doubtless i'll be back tomorrow with more nooby questions, but until then, cheers!
[19:16] <bekks> !backtrack | myung
[19:16] <Linix> myung: sorry, I gotta go, ask the question again and someone else might know it. And try to be more clear
[19:17] <AlanTryingToInst> Still hanging, despite the fact I used sudo rfkill block
[19:17] <myung> \Jan, nothing pops out :S
[19:17] <Pici> myung: we don't support crunchbang here, please use the proper support location that ubottu just advised you about.
[19:17] <myung> bekks, i'm running crunchbang not backtrack :/
[19:17] <AlanTryingToInst> Still hanging, despite the fact I used sudo rfkill block
[19:18] <myung> ok thx
[19:18] <Qtr> Does linux still have wireless problems?
[19:18] <dg1727_> AlanTryingToInst:  what is output from rfkill list
[19:18] <\Jan> AlanTryingToInst: `sudo rfkill block 0` typically, but you'll have to try `rfkill list` to see if it might be another number or not
[19:18] <luigi> Can someone here please report me to a Freenode staff member?
[19:19] <boghiu> BluesKaj:  i tried to connect but it tells me " wired conection - you are now offline"
[19:19] <dg1727_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1984949 - When does language-selector run?  Any comments?
[19:20] <newuser> hello all.
[19:20] <boghiu> BluesKaj: do you know a way to install my motherboard ethernet controller driver??
[19:20] <BluesKaj> sudo ifconfig wlan0 up, boghiu , try that
[19:20] <pettan_69> Anybody that can help with an issue sound not working through my HDMI output? Also Flash movies are playing too fast when I try to use sound through HDMI channel.
[19:20] <newuser> does anyone know how to get gmp4 working on ubuntu? trying lib32gmp3 and that's not installing. says it's not available but is referred to by othe rpackage.
[19:20] <boghiu> BluesKaj: ok
[19:20] <AlanTryingToInst> Okay, I did "rfkill list", it came up with Soft blocked: yes hard blocked : no
[19:21] <\Jan> well it's already blocked then
[19:21] <BluesKaj> oops boghiu , sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[19:21] <boghiu> BluesKaj: ok
[19:21] <mang0> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12125301#post12125301 Sorry for the link, it's a bit long for here :/ any ideas?
[19:22] <AlanTryingToInst> Okay so do I run the installer again then?
[19:22] <boghiu> BluesKaj: command not found
[19:23] <BluesKaj> boghiu, can you pastebin , ifconfig ,  pls.
[19:23] <boghiu> ok
[19:23] <boghiu> BluesKaj: i am from laptop now and ubuntu is installed on a pc
[19:25] <boghiu> BluesKaj:  i have a lot to write now
[19:25] <BluesKaj> ok boghiu , forget it
[19:25] <boghiu> BluesKaj: :))
[19:25] <Advocated> any openoffice calc users here? got a random problem and its driving me insane(contents of cell is blank) even though forumula is there and working
[19:25] <boghiu> BluesKaj:
[19:25] <BluesKaj> boghiu, run laspci ,and look fot the line with "ethernet controller "
[19:26] <BluesKaj> lspci rather boghiu
[19:26] <AlanTryingToInst> Its still hanging despite the fact i've done what Im supose to do
[19:26] <boghiu> BluesKaj: ok
[19:26] <dg1727_> Advocated: are you interested in installing LibreOffice 3.5?
[19:26] <Advocated> dg1727_, well, sorry, i meant libreoffice anyway, just used to calling it OO
[19:27] <AlanTryingToInst> Its still hanging despite the fact i've done what Im supose to do
[19:27] <dg1727_> Advocated: in case the issue has been fixed
[19:27] <mang0> I've always had a bit of a problem with my WiFi card (Broadcom), but I've managed to fix it in the past by using b43-fwcutter, as stated on the wiki page about it. However, I've just updated to Ubuntu 64-bit 12.04 from 32-bit 12.04 (new comp) and tried the b43-fwcutter fix, but it only worked till I rebooted. Now it doesn't work at all...Ubuntu is detecting the network, tries to connect,...
[19:27] <boghiu> BluesKaj:  NVIDIA Corporation MCP65 Ethernet (rev a1)
[19:27] <mang0> ...asks for the WPA2 key, and then doesn't connect...I've tried "sudo modprobe b43", still nothing. Any ideas?
[19:28] <Advocated> dg1727_, the thing was, it was working, it was based on named cells. I deleted the cell that was named, so all formulas broken, i changed all fomulas to the new named one, the contents is there but all blank, if i go in and make a change(ie add a space) to the formula, it works.. so its fine really
[19:28] <dg1727_> Advocated: what ver of LO?
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> what is LO?
[19:29] <dg1727_> MonkeyDust: LibreOffice
[19:29] <boghiu> BluesKaj: what now?
[19:29] <Advocated> dg1727_, the latest whatever that is
[19:29] <boghiu> BluesKaj:  NVIDIA Corporation MCP65 Ethernet (rev a1)
[19:29] <BluesKaj> boghiu, that's odd, I have a similar ethernet NIC , and it auto connects immediately , maybe check the cable connection at the router/modem and at the pc
[19:30] <dg1727_> Advocated: if you go to Help > About LibreOffice, what version number does it say?
[19:30] <Shogoot> so yeah. for ubuntu, what would you replace uTorrent with? I need something i can subscrip eto rss with :)
[19:31] <boghiu> BluesKaj: when i plug in the cable its pop up "wired connection disconnected
[19:31] <boghiu> BluesKaj: like my cable is not plugged in
[19:31] <BluesKaj> plugin where , boghiu
[19:31] <k3n0b1> hi guyd
[19:31] <boghiu> BluesKaj: in pc
[19:32] <Phiscribe> Shogoot i think ubunut comes with transmission, a torrent client
[19:32] <mang0> I've always had a bit of a problem with my WiFi card (Broadcom), but I've managed to fix it in the past by using b43-fwcutter, as stated on the wiki page about it. However, I've just updated to Ubuntu 64-bit 12.04 from 32-bit 12.04 (new comp) and tried the b43-fwcutter fix, but it only worked till I rebooted. Now it doesn't work at all...Ubuntu is detecting the network, tries to connect,...
[19:32] <mang0> ...asks for the WPA2 key, and then doesn't connect...I've tried "sudo modprobe b43", still nothing. Any ideas?
[19:32] <boghiu> BluesKaj: should i install manually the ethernet controller?
[19:33] <BluesKaj> boghiu, install manually ?
[19:33] <dg1727_> Advocated: I don't use named cells, but you could try submitting a bug report at https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/
[19:34] <boghiu> BluesKaj:  install my asus motherboard driver i think that is the problem
[19:34] <BluesKaj> boghiu, very odd , perhaps a reboot ...I have to leave for 30m ins or so ..bbl
[19:34] <boghiu> BluesKaj: when i had windows 7 all drivers were installed automatically
[19:34] <boghiu> BluesKaj: ok thx for your time
[19:36] <AlanTryingToInst> Its still hanging despite the fact i've done what Im supose to do
[19:36] <Qtr> how do i change tanget table layout?
[19:38] <ki4ro_> .
[19:39] <Zal> Hello, can someone please direct me to where I can find out what versions of various software ship with Ubuntu 12.04? My google-fu is failing me today.
[19:40] <Pici> Zal: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[19:40] <Zal> great, thank you Pici
[19:41] <delphi> afternoon
[19:42] <boghiu> can anyone help me to find a driver for my asus m2n-x motherboard... it seems like i must install it manually
[19:43] <Reindeernix> boghiu, http://support.asus.com/download/options.aspx?SLanguage=en&type=1
[19:43] <boghiu> Reindeernix: ty
[19:43] <drenn> What do I need to do to get my printer to show up in my vbox win7?
[19:43] <bekks> drenn: You have to provide more information.
[19:44] <drenn> fair enough. I have a 12.04 install and windows 7 in virtualbox. win7 is not detecting my printer dell 1130 laserjet. Not sure what to do.
[19:45] <bekks> More information :)
[19:45] <bekks> How is it connected to your host?
[19:45] <drenn> usb
[19:45] <bekks> Have you installed the extension pack according to the manual?
[19:45] <boghiu> Reindeernix: i found my model and i select Linux and it shows me this download list: vendor list bios
[19:45] <Qtr> how do i show the contents of a file in the terminal?
[19:45] <brontosaurusrex> Qtr, cat file
[19:45] <boghiu> Reindeernix: bios-utilites, others, manuals
[19:45] <drenn> please explain this extension pack.
[19:46] <boghiu> Reindeernix: what should i download ?
[19:46] <Reindeernix> boghiu, I don't think that they are supporting linux :/ I can't download linux drivers for my board too
[19:46] <bekks> drenn: According to the manual of Virtualbox, you have to install the extension pack on the host to be able to use USB2 in a VM.
[19:46] <dg1727_> Qtr: less file
[19:46] <dg1727_> Qtr: is more user-friendly than "cat"
[19:47] <boghiu> Reindeernix: so how can i connet to the internet with ubuntu???
[19:47] <drenn> yay. I need to ftm to rtfm.
[19:47] <Reindeernix> boghiu, are you in need of ethernet drivers?
[19:47] <boghiu> Reindeernix: yes  but for ubuntu
[19:48]  * Qtr slaps n0sq around a bit with a large trout
[19:48] <Qtr> what id dint do that
[19:48] <drenn> Thanks bekks, that should be enough to point me in the right direction.
[19:48] <Reindeernix> boghiu, Oh but Asus don't have them, those drivers are community made but I'll try to find driver for you that you can install
[19:48] <boghiu> Reindeernix: i cant connect to the internet cause it tells me wired network - disconnected
[19:48] <boghiu> Reindeernix: hope u can find one
[19:49] <_jdccdevel> Hi! My video drivers are corrupting the image on my screen. I've filed a bug report, and while I'm waiting on a resolution, I'd like to use the VESA drivers to get some work done. How do I tell Ubuntu 12.04 to NOT load the default intel drivers?
[19:49] <Reindeernix> boghiu, what is your ethernet card? realtek, atheros etc
[19:49] <boghiu> Reindeernix: how can i know that?
[19:49] <boghiu> Reindeernix: nvidia i think
[19:49] <Qtr> Can someone tell me how to change my keyboard layout? iot is not the same keys as on the keyboard
[19:50] <Reindeernix> boghiu, on the pc with ubuntu write lspci and look for ethernet controller and post what ethernet controller you are using
[19:50] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, In a terminal run: "sudo lspci | grep Ethernet"
[19:50] <boghiu> Reindeernix: ok
[19:51] <JeffSi> Hello, i attempted to install ubuntu alongside windows through wubi. Now I'm given a grub prompt and am unable to boot into either operating system. Grub is somewhat of a grey area for me and I am unsure on what I should do.
[19:51] <anax> Hey, guys, is is possible that some nicknames are on a blacklist?
[19:51] <boghiu> Reindeernix: NVIDIA Corporation MCP65 Ethernet
[19:52] <BluesKaj> Reindeernix, he already posted it , above ,NVIDIA Corporation MCP65 Ethernet (rev a1)
[19:52] <boghiu> _jdccdevel:  NVIDIA Corporation MCP65 Ethernet
[19:52] <drenn> Thanks bekks, turns out there is a checkbox under settings->usb for that purpose. 1/2 an hour, doomed by a single square button.
[19:52] <brontosaurusrex> boghiu, ifconfig | grep inet ?
[19:53] <elspuddy> any one know why my unbutn box cant bee seen on my network ?
[19:53] <Galaxor> Firefox crashes on startup.  What can I do to fix it?
[19:53] <boghiu> brontosaurusrex:  and now?
[19:53] <ResQue> i am trying to install gnash, but it will not show up on the plugins folder in firefox? am i doing something wrong. i ran the command sudo apt-get install firefox-plugin-gnash
[19:53] <brontosaurusrex> boghiu, first line, post it
[19:54] <brontosaurusrex> elspuddy, something about avahi-daemon and its config perhaps
[19:54] <genii-around> Galaxor: Try to see if it's some add-on causing the issue by loading it in safe mode from terminal with: firefox -safe-mode      ...if it does load ok from there, selectively remove add-ons until you find the bad one
[19:54] <boghiu> brontosaurusrex: inet6 addr: fe80: :21b:fcff:fe2b:35b7/64 Scope Link
[19:55] <anax> I'm so blocked. xD
[19:55] <brontosaurusrex> boghiu, thats the first line?
[19:55] <boghiu> brontosaurusrex: yes but know my cable is plugged in laptop
[19:56] <boghiu> brontosaurusrex: and i write in pc where is the ubuntu installed
[19:56] <elspuddy> brontosaurusrex, : know where i can find the confiig file ?
[19:56] <genii-around> Galaxor: If it is unable to run in the safe mode, copy the messages from the terminal and post them at pastebin.org so it can be examined
[19:56] <vesh7807> hi is there any know issues on ubuntu 12.0.4 - proxy settings. seems to lose/keep proxy settings
[19:56] <boghiu> Reindeernix:  nothing?
[19:56] <brontosaurusrex> elspuddy, /etc/avahi perhaps
[19:57] <boghiu> brontosaurusrex: my ethernet card is NVIDIA Corporation MCP65 Ethernet
[19:57] <Reindeernix> boghiu. can't seem to find anything :/ the ethernet should work though I don't understand why
[19:57] <brontosaurusrex> boghiu, sorry, what was the question again? :)
[19:58] <boghiu> brontosaurusrex: where i can find i driver for my motherboard for ethernet so i get acces to the internet with ubuntu
[19:58] <elspuddy> thanks brontosaurusrex  :)
[19:59] <boghiu> Reindeernix: with windows 7 all drivers are installed automatically
[19:59] <boghiu> Reindeernix: but with ubundu i think not
[19:59] <Galvatron> Have they maybe found a solution for the Unity launcher not unhinding properly when the right edge or one of the right corners of a screen is set as active?
[19:59] <_jdccdevel> boghiu: Can you run "sudo lsmod | grep -i force" and tell me if it returns a result?
[19:59] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: ok
[19:59] <Galvatron> boghiu: It's exactly the other way round.
[20:00] <brophat> ok here is the deal. I am so sick of linux and its trouble with drivers. I would be totally ok with it if there was a list of hardware that it works with, and that list was valid and things don't make the list just because it works 1/8th
[20:00] <Galvatron> boghiu:: Ubuntu only lacs the roprietary GPU drivers, while Windows lacks almost everything.
[20:00] <Galaxor> genii-around: The add-on causing the crash is "Global Menu Integration" from ubuntu unity.
[20:00] <boghiu> _jdccdevel:  i2c_nforce2        12906    0
[20:01] <brophat> I am going to buy a new wifi network adapter, and if it does not work then I am done with linux and ubuntu altogether and going to use winblows
[20:01] <xangua> !hardware | brophat
[20:01] <boghiu> _jdccdevel:  forcedeth        58096   0
[20:01] <basketcu> Hey guys, we ran ubuntu updates and now we can't get xserver to start. We tried restoring the full X11 folder which worked last time but wasn't able to fix it this time. Any ideas?
[20:01] <Galvatron> brophat: What exatly doesn't work?
[20:01] <ahoneybun> Galvatron: I have a A6 APU and WIndows did not have a lan driver but all  linuxs I have tried have it
[20:01] <Reindeernix> boghiu, for me it's the reverse, I have to install ethernet driver on windows 7
[20:01] <beandog> brophat: linuxwireless.org
[20:01] <brophat> xangua that list is worthless. anything can make that list
[20:01] <BluesKaj> boghiu, make sure you run the commands with the ethernet cable plugged in .
[20:01] <Galaxor> genii-around: That means no heads-up display for me.
[20:01] <beandog> brophat: that lists what works
[20:01] <brophat> beandog anything can make that list
[20:01] <beandog> brophat: um, no.
[20:01] <ahoneybun> Reindeernix: same for me.
[20:01] <_jdccdevel> boghiu: Your network driver is only in kernel 3.2+ can you run "uname -a" and post the result pls?
[20:02] <beandog> brophat: if you want things to work, you're going to do due diligence and research.  if you just want to complain and not try, then it won't work.  your choice.
[20:02] <brophat> ok suggest a basic cheap wifi adapter that is pcie or pcie mini
[20:02] <boghiu> BluesKaj:  i cant cause my cable is in laptop and ubuntu is in pc
[20:02] <brophat> beandog I try
[20:02] <beandog> brophat: intel
[20:02] <beandog> brophat: intel everything.  it's quality, it works great
[20:02] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: i must tell u that my cable with internet is plugged in laptop
[20:02] <brophat> beandog are you in the usa?
[20:02] <beandog> brophat: yes
[20:02] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: and my ubuntu is in pc
[20:03] <basketcu> Is there a way to remove to default to non nvidia drivers?
[20:03] <brophat> can someone tell me where brick and mortar store sells intel wifi adapters?
[20:03] <beandog> brophat: you'll have to find a local store, as in, not a chain
[20:03] <brophat> beandog ok
[20:03] <brophat> will do
[20:03] <beandog> good luck
[20:03] <BluesKaj> boghiu, then the information you are giving us isn't valid , it has to have the cable plugged in in order to test the commands
[20:03] <brophat> thanks
[20:03] <joel135> basketcu: remove nvidia-commons or similar if installed via apt
[20:03] <rauf> xorg.conf
[20:03] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, I understand. The problem appears to be that the driver for your ethernet card is not loaded (it should be forcedeth) I need to know what kernel you are running.
[20:04] <Galvatron> brophat: Do you already have a Wi-Fi adapter, or you' just plan on getting one?
[20:04] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: i run unamed -a  and : Linux boghiu 3.2.0 -23 - generic-pae #36 ubuntu smp
[20:05] <basketcu> joel135: they are ati drivers
[20:05] <brophat> Galvantron i need one cause the one I have works as good as a man trying to pee with venereal disease
[20:05] <boghiu> BluesKaj: if plug in the cable in the pc it tells me "wired newtork your are now offline
[20:05] <Galvatron> brophat: What exactly is it?
[20:05] <genii-around> Galaxor: Do the version numbers from apt-cache policy firefox-globalmenu firefox    match each other?
[20:05] <brophat> Galvantron rt3090
[20:06] <sacramentun> Hello
[20:06] <Galvatron> brophat: I also suggest visiting http://forums.ubuntu.com
[20:06] <boghiu> BluesKaj: what comand should i run when the cable is pluged in pc?
[20:06] <brophat> Galvantron yeah been doing that
[20:06] <BluesKaj> well, leave the cable plugged in and type this in the terminal, ifconfig
[20:06] <joel135> basketcu:  if uninstalling is an issue, you could just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and remove the drivers from there
[20:06] <BluesKaj> boghiu,^
[20:06] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: and now?
[20:07] <Galvatron> brophat: Ubuntu 12.04?
[20:07] <boghiu> BluesKaj: i cant talk with you if i put the cable in the pc cause i am from laptop now
[20:08] <BluesKaj> boghiu,ok , then after that type , sudo dhclient eth0
[20:08] <boghiu> BluesKaj: ok and then ?
[20:08] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, sorry, I was on the phone.
[20:09] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: NO
[20:09] <BluesKaj> boghiu, , the MUST be plugged into the machine that we're trying to fix , then plug it back in to your laptop to gives us the results
[20:09] <BluesKaj> cable
[20:09] <basketcu> joel135: everything in the xorg.conf file metions ati...what part should be removed...can we just delete every line lol
[20:09] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, try: "sudo modprobe forcedeth"
[20:10] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: but i must plug in pc the cable? or i can run this comands without the internet cable?
[20:10] <BluesKaj> boghiu, you'll be leaving and joining the chat , but that's the only way
[20:10] <boghiu> BluesKaj: ok wait then
[20:10] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, sorry, I didn't see the post where you said that forcedeth is loaded.
[20:11] <joel135> basketcu you could issue 'cd /etc/X11; sudo mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.ati' and reboot
[20:11] <boghiu> _jdccdevel:  i2c_nforce2        12906    0
[20:11] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, so you do have the driver installed and active. That's good.
[20:11] <boghiu> _jdccdevel:  forcedeth        58096   0
[20:11] <BluesKaj> jf he's try to fix an ethernet NIC with no cable
[20:11] <BluesKaj> _jdccdevel,
[20:12] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: so what should i do now?
[20:12] <_jdccdevel> BluesKaj, Yeh, I see it.
[20:14] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, if you run run "sudo ifconfig | grep Ethernet" what does it show in the first column?
[20:14] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: wait
[20:14] <Galaxor> genii-around: Yes, they are both 14.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.1
[20:16] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: Link encap: Ethernet (in red letters) HWaddr 00:1b:fc:2b:35:b7
[20:16] <RedLance> Is anybody in here a DosBox guru?
[20:17] <RedLance> Sorry...should have known to look for the #dosbox channel...
[20:18] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: remember i dont have any internet  cable plugged in the pc
[20:18] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, does the line start with "eth0" or something else?
[20:18] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: yes
[20:18] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: with eth0
[20:19] <BluesKaj> boghiu, have you tried rebooting the ubuntu machine with ethernet cable plugged in ?\
[20:19] <brophat> what is a pci express half mini card is that the same as pci express mini card?
[20:19] <smj> can I fix Java font hinting settings?
[20:19] <boghiu> BluesKaj: nope
[20:19] <smj> every applet seems to have full hinting on
[20:20] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, Ok, good. Now, with the cable plugged in, can you type "sudo ifup eth0"
[20:20] <BluesKaj> boghiu, well ,you should
[20:20] <RedLance> brophat, Yes, but it's shorter so it will fit in a slim case
[20:20] <brophat> RedLance but it will fit into the slot
[20:20] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: ok but wait i will be disconnected now i will reconnect after that ok?
[20:21] <RedLance> brophat, Yes
[20:21] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, k
[20:21] <lesshaste> i can print from the command line with lp -d printername -h printserver -U user
[20:22] <lesshaste> how can I set up printing so I can print from firefox for example?
[20:22] <brophat> I read that intel was not being so linux friendly with their centrino wifi cards. is this true cause if it is it would contradict what I am being told about their wifi cars
[20:22] <brophat> cards
[20:24] <boghiu_> _jdccdevel: ok now it tells me this Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0.
[20:25] <boghiu_> _jdccdevel: are u still here?
[20:25] <_jdccdevel> boghiu_, did you try the reboot suggestion? it's a good one.
[20:26] <boghiu_> _jdccdevel: i will try to reinstall ubuntu with cable plugged in ok?
[20:26] <BluesKaj> boghiu_, did you install ubuntu without an ethernet connection to the internet ?
[20:26] <boghiu_> _jdccdevel: and i will come with news in 20 min i think
[20:26] <BluesKaj> boghiu_, no just reboot
[20:27] <boghiu_> _jdccdevel: aaa i have done that still same problem
[20:27] <BluesKaj> with the cable plugged in, boghiu_
[20:27] <boghiu_> BluesKaj: hmm i think no
[20:27] <BluesKaj> boghiu_, why not ?
[20:27] <boghiu_> BluesKaj:  i have reeboted with the cable in same problem
[20:28] <BluesKaj> not since we gave the commands tho , boghiu_
[20:28] <boghiu_> cause i was on my laptop googeling for ubuntu:))
[20:28] <boghiu_> so what should i do know reinstall ubuntu with the internet cable plugged in?
[20:29] <BluesKaj> NO, just reboot ,bo
[20:29] <_jdccdevel> boghiu_, what does "cat /etc/network/interfaces | grep eth0" show
[20:29] <Derpian> !eat
[20:29] <Derpian> !food
[20:29] <boghiu_> _jdccdevel: should i put in the cable?
[20:29] <Derpian> !bot
[20:29] <boghiu_> _jdccdevel: to run that comand?
[20:29] <_jdccdevel> boghiu_, no, you don't have to
[20:29] <boghiu_> ok
[20:29] <Derpian> !botsnack
[20:30] <boghiu_> _jdccdevel: nothing
[20:31] <_jdccdevel> boghiu_, Excellent!
[20:31] <boghiu_> _jdccdevel: :)) what now?
[20:32] <_jdccdevel> boghiu_, run this pls (everything after the colon): sudo echo "auto eth0" >> /etc/network/interfaces
[20:32] <boghiu_> _jdccdevel: with no cable plugged in right?
[20:32] <_jdccdevel> boghiu_, yes
[20:32] <ThinkT510> _jdccdevel: i don't think a sudo echo can be >'d
[20:33] <boghiu_> _jdccdevel: Permission denied
[20:34] <_jdccdevel> ThinkT510, I see that.
[20:34] <islandmonkey> !smack
[20:34] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, Ok. We'll try it another way.
[20:34] <islandmonkey> !smack*
[20:34] <boghiu_> _jdccdevel: which is:))
[20:34] <ThinkT510> islandmonkey: stop that
[20:35] <jaime32> good evenin for everybody
[20:36] <Reindeernix> Hey jaime32
[20:36] <jaime32> hello Reindeernix
[20:37] <jaime32> you tell
[20:37] <_jdccdevel> boghiu_, sorry, on the phone again.
[20:37] <boghiu_> _jdccdevel:  no problem
[20:38] <boghiu_> _jdccdevel: i cant understand why when i plug in the cable it shows me an icon with wired network - disconnected like the cable is unplugged
[20:39] <_jdccdevel> No address
[20:39] <boghiu_> _jdccdevel: i set up my adress with user name and pasword from my internet provider and still cant connect
[20:41] <boghiu_> _jdccdevel: hmmm what should i do know?
[20:41] <RyuGuns> Will "Web Apps" be default in Quetzel?
[20:42] <Eagleman> How do i connect to a KVM machine?
[20:42] <Eagleman> The KVM Machine is able to reach the lan and the internet
[20:42] <Eagleman> But i cant reach the KVM Machine
[20:43] <ThinkT510> RyuGuns: quantal questions in #ubuntu+1
[20:43] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, sorry, I'm still on that call.
[20:43] <boghiu_> _jdccdevel: i am waiting dont worry
[20:45] <BluesKaj> boghiu_, boot your ubuntu pc with the cable plugged iun using the ubuntu cd , see if you have an connec tion , then i n the terminal sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:45] <boghiu_> BluesKaj: ok i will try
[20:45] <Chaser> Eagleman, is the interface setup in bridge mode ?
[20:46] <Chaser> Eagleman, ahh KVM nevermind
[20:46] <Eagleman> Chaser yes
[20:46] <boghiu_> BluesKaj:  so the comand is sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:46] <ZeThomas> hello I have some questions concerning my wifi
[20:46] <boghiu_> BluesKaj: or there are 2 commands?
[20:46] <BluesKaj> boghiu_, yes
[20:46] <boghiu_> after ;
[20:47] <boghiu_> BluesKaj: 1 comand?
[20:47] <BluesKaj> they are 2 commands separated by a ;
[20:47] <jaime32> i only speak a little english
[20:47] <ZeThomas> first of all, on startup, my system auto-connects to my home network, but when I'm out, it then waits 2x60secs because it can't find my router
[20:47] <boghiu_> _jdccdevel: i am doing the BluesKaj method:)) and come back with news
[20:47] <gbit86> I am having some difficulty replacing the firmware on my cisco 7961 phone with a third party SIP firmware, and my 3rd party vendor tells me that I need to first load firmware cmterm-7941_7961-sip.8-3-2SR1.zip then upgrade to theirs, however due to cisco website restrictions I am unable to download this. Can anyone please assist me in obtaining this file?
[20:47] <boghiu_> BluesKaj:  just 1 comand is there?
[20:47] <ZeThomas> i have ubuntu server 12.04
[20:48] <ZeThomas> can I change/interrupt this?
[20:48] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, you still there?
[20:48] <_jdccdevel> boghiu_, you still there?
[20:48] <boghiu_> _jdccdevel: yes
[20:48] <BluesKaj> boghiu_, you can run the commands separately if you wish
[20:48] <boghiu_> BluesKaj: ok
[20:48] <_jdccdevel> boghiu_, I'm off the phone now.
[20:48] <yorick> I'm trying to upgrade to 12.04 from 11.10, but I got this error in my do-release-upgrade: http://pastie.org/4308369
[20:48] <yorick> what do I do?
[20:49] <boghiu_> _jdccdevel:  i am doing the BluesKaj  method
[20:49] <_jdccdevel> boghiu_, This shoudl be quick, But it's 3 commands.
[20:49] <boghiu_> _jdccdevel: wait few min and i come back with news ok?
[20:49] <boghiu_> ok
[20:49] <BluesKaj> _jdccdevel, I suggested he boot in with his ubuntu cd with cable plufgged in and update and upgrade
[20:50] <jaime32> i the same yorick
[20:50] <_jdccdevel> BluesKaj, the problem is that ifup doesn't know about the eth0 interface. It's not in the interfaces file.
[20:50] <_jdccdevel> BluesKaj, all he needs to do is add "auto eth0" to the bottom
[20:51] <yorick> I'll at least report it
[20:51] <yorick> but how to proceed?
[20:51] <BluesKaj> the kernel didn't load the nic driver , I siuspect , _jdccdevel
[20:51] <yorick> oh, the report collecting crashed
[20:51] <kurtwp_> yorick: I had plenty of issues upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04.  I finally just did a fresh install of 12.04
[20:52] <_jdccdevel> BluesKaj, It did, I checked that first. eth0 is there, and the driver "forcedeth" is loaded
[20:52] <ZeThomas> I also can't connect my wifi to any outside network, tried already some methods, but it never seems to work; either iw or dhclient 'hangs' (gives me a blank line with nothing else to do then ctrl-C
[20:52] <BluesKaj> _jdccdevel, you mean /etc/network/interfaces file ?
[20:52] <Eagleman> How do i connect to a KVM machine?
[20:52] <_jdccdevel> BluesKaj, yes
[20:52] <joel135> yorick: maybe there's something wrong with the .deb file. you could remove it and try again: "sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/ifupdown_0.7~beta2ubuntu8_amd64.deb"
[20:52] <BluesKaj> no auto eth0 ? _jdccdevel
[20:53] <mikestewart> can anyone suggest a good screencasting tool for ubuntu 12.04 ?
[20:54] <_jdccdevel> BluesKaj, nothing at all in interfaces about eth0. "cat /etc/network/interfaces | grep eth0" returns nothing
[20:54] <mrmartin> Re, anybody have an experience here with building customized server installation cd-s?
[20:54] <BluesKaj> _jdccdevel, I'll bet the interfaces file didn't get written during the install because there was no cable connected to the internet
[20:54] <mikestewart> I'm aware of gtk-recordmydesktop and istanbul ... but anything newer / maintained?
[20:54] <yorick> joel135: how could that have happened?
[20:55] <boghiu> BluesKaj:  done when i wrote the comand with udate all failed
[20:55] <_jdccdevel> BluesKaj, it's still there for lo
[20:55] <joel135> yorick: some error while downloading, bad hard drive ... it should be possible
[20:55] <yorick> joel135: I guess I'll move over some files before I try again or else do a fresh install
[20:55] <boghiu> _jdccdevel:  that method doesnt work
[20:56] <boghiu> BluesKaj: and with upgrade 0 to upgrade ...
[20:56] <yorick> http://pastie.org/4308369 <-- the report went on to fail some more
[20:56] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, try these commands (everything after the colon)
[20:56] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, 1: sudo bash
[20:56] <diverdude> I never understand why they claim linux is the most stable system....I am running ubuntu and it seems to be crashing approximately once a day...thats not stable in my optic...
[20:56] <BluesKaj> boghiu, was there an internet connection with ubuntu cd ?
[20:57] <univac> my system does not crash
[20:57] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, 2: echo "auto eth0" >> /etc/network/interfaces
[20:57] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, 3: exit
[20:57] <boghiu> BluesKaj: i plugged the internet cable and done what u told me and doesn work i recived some messages with failed
[20:57] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: DOING NOW
[20:57] <ThinkT510> diverdude: usage has a big impact
[20:57] <_jdccdevel> boghiu: Now run "sudo ifup eth0"
[20:58] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, with the cable plugged in for the ifup command
[20:58] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: OK
[20:59] <yorick> "Your system could be in an unusable state"
[20:59] <yorick> why thanks upgrade process
[21:00] <diverdude> are there any linux distro that supports nvidia optimus cards?
[21:01] <ThinkT510> diverdude: not really, optimus isn't well supported in linux
[21:02] <ThinkT510> diverdude: nvidia are to thank for that
[21:02] <Reindeernix> diverdude, you could use bumblebee on Ubuntu though
[21:02] <Reindeernix> Last time I used bumblebee it actually worked great
[21:02] <BluesKaj> diverdude, the dual level gpus , there's aworkaround , but mostly ends up with one gpu or the other disabled
[21:03] <diverdude> Reindeernix: i tried that...that does not allow me to use splitscreen
[21:03] <yorick> yay, grub failed to upgrade too
[21:03] <zykotick9> yorick: try "sudo apt-get -f install" and see if it has any errors
[21:03] <univac> I don't think there is any open-source drivers for nvidia
[21:03] <Reindeernix> diverdude, I see >.<
[21:03] <zykotick9> univac: nouveau
[21:03] <univac> nouveau?
[21:03] <zykotick9> univac: it's ati/amd that doesn't have free drivers
[21:04] <univac> k
[21:04] <zykotick9> univac: nouveau is an attempt to create open/free drivers for nvidia
[21:04] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: back ... when i wrote the ifup comand it told me ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0
[21:04] <MonkeyDust> !nouveau
[21:04] <univac> thanks zykotick9
[21:04] <BluesKaj> actually nouveau works quite well on some nvidia cards , my old 7600gt included
[21:05] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: but no 3d on others :(  like my 8800.  univac
[21:05] <neros1x> Can anyone help me install synaptics-dpkg? I purged it because it was crashing, but now I don't know how to get it back
[21:06] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, To confirm, you get output if you run "sudo ifconfig eth0" right?
[21:06] <zykotick9> neros1x: you purged dpkg?
[21:06] <MDGrein> This is proally a stupid question but I can't seem to open the kwallet manager, the icon blinks in the laucher but nothing happens. Freshly installed 12.04 desktop.
[21:06] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: wati
[21:06] <neros1x> it kept crashing and I couldn't find much on how to fix it so i tried a suggestion i found on a forum to use purge
[21:06]  * Gnea wonders why ubuntu 64-bit has to suck so much...
[21:07] <zykotick9> neros1x: did you purge dpkg?
[21:07] <neros1x> yes
[21:07] <Gnea> dbus simply refuses to run right or upgrade
[21:07] <Gnea> this is 11.10
[21:07] <Gnea> I'm trying to upgrade to 12.04, but have to finish 11.10 first
[21:07] <zykotick9> neros1x: i'd reinstall, or try compiling the correct dpkg from source.  dpkg does all the actual installing of packages!  removing it seems like a huge error to me.  good luck.
[21:07] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: i wrote this comand now and it shows me a lot of letters:)) first line is Link encap: ethernet HWaddr
[21:08] <BluesKaj> zykotick9, really ?, that's odd , my other pc used the nouveau driver with an 8400gs with 3D and Dir
[21:08] <univac> Can someone tell me how to install a tar.bz2 file after I've extracted it ?
[21:08] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: second line is with inet6 addr
[21:08] <Gnea> univac: you don't, you follow the directions contained within. tar.bz2 isn't a package, it's more like a .zip
[21:08] <neros1x> can you point me to a good guide on how to go about compiling it from source?
[21:08] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: i've never seen nouveau fail in 2d mode, but for 3d the list of supported cards is very short right now
[21:09] <neros1x> I used purge because it was crashing and a forum suggested it. probably a stupid idea
[21:09] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: :((((( i want enjoy ubuntu
[21:09] <univac> I can't find the README file
[21:09] <BluesKaj> zykotick9, right , I ended up installing nvidia-current on both just to be sure
[21:09] <_jdccdevel> boghiu_, ok, what does "ifconfig eth0 | grep inet" show?
[21:10] <Gnea> univac: it might not be README, look around
[21:10] <zykotick9> neros1x: am i correct in assuming that apt-get is broken now?
[21:10] <neros1x> yes
[21:10] <_jdccdevel> boghiu_, with the cable plugged
[21:10] <neros1x> it also won't update
[21:10] <ThinkT510> univac: what are you trying to install?
[21:10] <Gnea> gah, this stupid dbus...
[21:10] <zykotick9> neros1x: good luck.  hopefully someone else can help you.
[21:10] <neros1x> ok thanks
[21:10] <univac> Ty zykotick9. It's to install seamonkey.
[21:10] <Gnea> why won't it just *work*?
[21:11] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: inet6 addr: fe80: :21b:fcff..................
[21:11] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, that's the only line?
[21:11] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: last words Scope: Link
[21:11] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: yes
[21:12] <boghiu> _jdccdevel:  1 line
[21:12] <zykotick9> univac: i didn't find nouveau 3d very useful on the one card that quasi-supported 3d... the proprietary drivers where just SO much better (allowed 3d gaming in my case).
[21:12] <univac> It's not in the 12.04 Ubuntu software centre
[21:12] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: with the cable in???
[21:13] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: i didnt saw that i needed the cable in what was the last comand ?
[21:13] <univac> I'm not a gamer so it not a problem for me
[21:13] <kuul> Hi, Iam trying to install ubuntu 12.04 (server or core) on microSD card but the installer cannot find the disk. But when I try the desktop version it install on the sdcard just fine. Does anyone has any clue what could be the problem?
[21:13] <univac> I have a good resolution for Unity so I'm happy enough
[21:13] <zykotick9> univac: for 2d noveau as a replacement over nv has run fine on all my nvidia stuff
[21:14] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, Yes, with the cable in. Try this too: "ifconfig eth0 | grep MTU" with the cable plugged in. does the line contain the word "UP" ?
[21:14] <boghiu> _jdccdevel:  wait i must plug in the cable
[21:14] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: 1 min
[21:17] <zykotick9> univac: fyi (besides gaming) unity is a compiz plugin and thus requires 3d (and the better the driver, the faster the interface)
[21:17] <univac> ok thanks
[21:19] <zykotick9> univac: i'm all for free software!  BUT when it comes to graphics cards i will only ever support nvidia 'cause they've had a gnu/linux driver for a long long time.  as well as freebsd drivers (for almost as long).  ati entered the gnu/linux arena with a driver very late in the game...
[21:20] <univac> yep
[21:20] <Gnea> UGH, dbus fails again, I can't continue to upgrade, WHY doesn't anyone know how to just solve my problem?
[21:20] <wN> ati has an open source driver
[21:20] <wN> nvidia is closed source
[21:20] <univac> I'm running a core i7 with nvidia Gforce
[21:20] <Gnea> wN: no, nvidia is partially closed source.
[21:20] <zykotick9> wN: BUT - the open ati requires non-free binary blob!
[21:20] <univac> note book computer
[21:21] <Gnea> also, nvidia makes their drivers *work*
[21:21] <Gnea> oh well, don't have anymore time to deal with this, gotta go to work
[21:21] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: back
[21:21] <zykotick9> wN: according to the fsf's hardware list - ati/amd has 0 NONE zero free 3d cards.  nvidia through nouveau has "some" (very limited i admit)
[21:22] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, and?
[21:22] <wN> free 3d cards?
[21:22] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: when i wrote the comand with grep inet it shows me some commands
[21:22] <zykotick9> wN: cards that a supported through drivers on a gnu/linux system that can do 3d rendering.
[21:22] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: fconfig from package redboot-tools
[21:23] <wN> i've had a lot more success with the open source ati driver than the open source nvidia.... although the close sourced nvidia blows both out of the water
[21:23] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: and another 5 should i tell u all of them?
[21:23] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, I think you missed the "i" at the front of "ifconfig"
[21:23] <zykotick9> wN: well "open source" ati drivers yes - but they're not free.
[21:24] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: and the second comand with MTU it tells me UP BROADCAST RUNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric 1
[21:24] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: dam i missed the f
[21:24] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: should i plug in again and write that comand?
[21:25] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: ??????
[21:25] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, is your network running dhcp? How are you connecting (i.e. are you behind a router, direct to your ISP, something else) ?
[21:25] <zykotick9> boghiu: did you type that in?  copy/paste with mouse wheel from terminals (highlight what you want, that's it - don't click) - then in the other windows use your mouse wheel as a button (b3) to paste.  RUNNING
[21:25] <ZeThomas> hey, I have in my interfaces: iface wlan0 inet dhcp (+ lines with wpa-ssid + pw)
[21:25] <zykotick9> boghiu: mine is UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[21:26] <_jdccdevel> zykotick9, he's running it on a different pc, and he has to swap network cables!
[21:26] <ZeThomas> how can I change this so that it doesn't wait several minutes if I'm not around my router?
[21:26] <_jdccdevel> zykotick9, <ouch>
[21:26] <boghiu> zykotick9: i am from laptop know but the problem is on pc where is ubuntu installed and i must plug in the internet cabble i cant copy from pc and paste in laptop
[21:26] <zykotick9> boghiu: AHHH
[21:27] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, are you behind a router? Or directly connected?
[21:27] <boghiu> _jdccdevel:  i connect to RDS thast my provider with an username and a pasword
[21:27] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: directly with a cable in my laptop
[21:27] <BluesKaj> boghiu, I suggest you buy another cable and ethernet hub if required
[21:28] <boghiu> BluesKaj: but with windows 7 its work
[21:28] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: router in that situation is typically so much easier
[21:28] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, did your provider give you static IP information? Or are they running DHCP?
[21:29] <boghiu> BluesKaj:  the problem i think it is that i install manualy the ethernet controller from my motherboard and asus dont make drivers for linux
[21:29] <BluesKaj> agreed , but that depends where the pcs are located , zykotick9
[21:29] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: how can i know that?
[21:29] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: if you want to share dsl/cable (unless you purchase multiple IPs) a router is basically "required" IMO
[21:29] <BluesKaj> boghiu, your nic card is nvidia similar to mine , it should work
[21:29] <_jdccdevel> BluesKaj, Is the PC you're using now windows? or Linux?
[21:30] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: i have 1 ip ... what means DHCP?
[21:30] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, Is the PC you're using now windows? or Linux?
[21:30] <_jdccdevel> BluesKaj, sorry, wrong person.
[21:30] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: now am am using windows 7 on my laptop
[21:30] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, do you have to manually type in the address in windows 7, or does it get it for you?
[21:30] <BluesKaj> zykotick9, setup satic IPs in the interfaves file might work , altho I've never tried it with a hub
[21:31] <boghiu> BluesKaj: it works with windows 7 cause all drviers are instlled automatically
[21:31] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: manually
[21:31] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, Ah!
[21:32] <BluesKaj> lots of stuff works automatically on windows 7 that;s what you pay for , boghiu
[21:32] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, so you have an IP, Netmask, Gateway, and DNS server IPs?
[21:32] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: if you connect your "internet" to a hub, each connected device needs to have a valid IP from your ISP's network :(  (unless you use a single computer as teh router and to ICS or something - but a router is probably faster)
[21:32] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: Yes
[21:32] <bipul> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all  <-- i have used this command in PTABLE to disable ping REQUEST now i want to enable it can any one tell me how to do that
[21:32] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: i think:D
[21:33] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, The problem isn't your network drivers, the problem is that we need to configure your static IP on the card.
[21:33] <BluesKaj>  zykotick9 yes , that's the obvious choice , and that's what i use
[21:33] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: oh and how we do that?:))
[21:33] <univac> Can someone please tell me why a .local domain is not recomended
[21:33] <genii-around> bipul: Change the 1 to a 0 (zero)
[21:33] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, most of the time people just assume you're behind a router, which would give you the correct IP.
[21:33] <SteevB> anybody know of a simple way to enable 2 finger tap on a trackpad to act as middle scroll wheel click
[21:33] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: i can give u my ip correctly
[21:33] <bipul> echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all   <-- you mean this ?
[21:34] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, do you have all the info I gave above? or do you need to look some of it up?
[21:34] <genii-around> bipul: Yes.
[21:34] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, Ip address, netmask, gateway, and DNS servers?
[21:34] <boghiu> _jdccdevel:  u need those info?
[21:35] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, no, but I need to know you have them.
[21:35] <zykotick9> SteevB: i don't.  but i have the same problem on my netbook - how to use mouse3?  i believe i use the keybinding instead shift+insert perhaps?
[21:36] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: i have the ip the rest i dont know how to get them
[21:36] <bipul> genii-around, echo "net.ipv4.icmp_echo_ignore_all = 1" >> /etc/sysctl.conf <-- and what this command do ?
[21:37] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, on your windows 7 box, open a command prompt (win-r, type cmd) then type "ipconfig /all" in the dos box
[21:37] <boghiu> ok
[21:37] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: done
[21:37] <genii-around> bipul: That puts the default state after boot
[21:38] <genii-around> bipul: The other command changes the default state as it is running
[21:38] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, ok you should see values for "netmask" and dns servers (or nameservers)
[21:38] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: i see my ip dns servers and wait ...
[21:38] <bipul> ok
[21:38] <zykotick9> _jdccdevel: if you need to give windows specific instructions/help - could you do it in PM perhaps?  (i don't want to set you to /ignore 'cause you are a helper - but your giving MS specific steps!?!
[21:38] <_jdccdevel> boghiu, you should also see "default gateway"
[21:39] <_jdccdevel> zykotic9, k
[21:40] <boghiu> _jdccdevel: ok i see them what now?
[22:02] <leonard> hi guys i am trying to increase the size of the gnome top bar
[22:02] <leonard> hey guys i am trying to increase the size of the gnome top bar ... but i cannot find it ...
[22:03] <Fusion_> hi all hope some one can help me. I have installed Ubuntu 12.04 and every thing went well but now i can not see the mouse courser
[22:06] <EcoKeco> ikvenica
[22:06] <EcoKeco> @weather Crikvenica
[22:07] <jparker> how does one add shell bash to a new ubuntu user?
[22:08] <Fusion_> any one able to help????
[22:08] <whoever> hi all I am tring to upgrade to 12.04 from 11.10 and when I try to boot the iso from disk i don't seem to be able to get past the ubuntu splash screen on the 64 bit iso . has anyone else experienced this
[22:08] <IntuitiveNipple> jparker: Do you mean set 'bash' as a user's default shell?
[22:08] <jparker> yes
[22:08] <jparker> I added a new user and it doesnt appear to have it
[22:08] <Fusion_> hi all hope some one can help me. I have installed Ubuntu 12.04 and every thing went well but now i can not see the mouse courser
[22:09] <IntuitiveNipple> jparker: the shell is specified in the /etc/passwd file, on the line for the user account. e.g.  "tj:x:1000:1000:TJ,,,:/home/tj:/bin/bash"
[22:10] <netw0rm> hi,guys
[22:10] <SteevB> hola
[22:10] <IntuitiveNipple> jparker: You would use "sudo usermod --shell /bin/bash tj" in the example above to change it
[22:11] <jparker> ahh okay
[22:11] <jparker> just changed it
[22:11] <jparker> thanks a ton!
[22:11] <jparker> yay!
[22:11] <FloodBot1> jparker: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:11] <IntuitiveNipple> :)
[22:11] <zykotick9> jparker: how did you add the user?  useradd?  use adduser and things should be pretty "default" ubuntu user settings...
[22:11] <lnxslck> what is the name of the bynary of system tools?
[22:12] <jparker> I just did a adduser
[22:12] <jparker> it didnt even create a userfolder
[22:12] <zykotick9> jparker: that's funny - adduser i'd except to have bash as default?
[22:12] <Nithael_du_Lac> Hi everyone ... Just a simple question - is it possible to deploy WINDOWS SERVERS inside of an UBUNTU CLOUD?
[22:12] <jparker> passwd file had /bin/sh
[22:14] <IntuitiveNipple> jparker: I think you used "useradd" not "adduser"
[22:14] <Fusion_> thanks for the help guys i will go with another OS
[22:15] <Resinator> got kubuntu working fantastically, thanks for all the help :)
[22:16] <Fusion_> last try is there a fix for not being able to see the mouse pointer in Ubuntu 12.04
[22:16] <Nithael_du_Lac> Fusion_:  in terminal or graph?
[22:16] <Fusion_> graphic
[22:17] <Nithael_du_Lac> one sec plz..
[22:18] <Nithael_du_Lac> Fusion_: Have you tryed to use Gnome Tweak Tool for changing the mouse and themes stuffs?
[22:18] <Nithael_du_Lac> maybe will work.;
[22:19] <Fusion_> not yet i have installed Gnome 3 on to the pc to see if that would fix it but no luck
[22:20] <SteevB> has anyone had the issue where xchat shows the dialog boxes each time you start it even if you check the boxes not to do it
[22:20] <Fusion_> Getting it now will let you know how i go
[22:20] <Nithael_du_Lac> Fusion_: Maybe it is a bug related to the themes used... The pointer appears over SOME surfaces? Or it is completely gone?
[22:20] <Fusion_> completley gone
[22:20] <whoever> hi all , im back  , about tring to upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04, both versions are 64 bit but when i try to upgrade from dvd the upgrade radial is grayed out, can someone assist?
[22:21] <Nithael_du_Lac> Fusion_: It will be boring to access the Tweak without ANY pointers.. but I just know this solution.. sorry.. :(
[22:21] <Gnea> whoever: would if I could get that far.... stuck in the middle of upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10, 64-bit as well
[22:21] <Fusion_> thats cool i can use the keyboard
[22:22] <Nithael_du_Lac> Anybody knows if the Ubuntu Private Cloud (opensource installed with Maas and Juju) deploys Windows Server as Cloud Machines?
[22:22] <Fusion_> Nithael_du_Lac how do you open the tweak tool from terminal
[22:23] <Nithael_du_Lac> sudo gnome-tweak-tools  I think
[22:23] <whoever> Gnea: i had completed the upgrade before but then was unable to print from libreoffice , and the only compaints i got that time were repo links, so this time i am tring to do it from dvd
[22:24] <Guest17948> whoever: Check out Ubuntu forums, there are some culprits for this.
[22:24] <Gnea> whoever: ah, my dbus simply won't do anything, I am stuck until I can get it working again. everything I've found on ubuntuforums doesn't work
[22:24] <noiro> is there a commandline way to update my system? I'm on 12.04 and apt-get update and apt-get upgrade just don't do the trick
[22:25] <Nithael_du_Lac> noiro: I have just donne with that!
[22:25] <Gnea> noiro: apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:25] <Guest17948> whoever: I ended up disabling my usb2 while installing to get past the splash screen.
[22:25] <zykotick9> noiro: use sudo for both.  and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" will update everything (like the GUI updater does)
[22:25] <noiro> thanks guys
[22:25] <_jdccdevel> BluesKaj, do you know how to troubleshoot a pppoe connection?
[22:25] <Zapooo> Hi, I'm trying to install Wine from the Software Center. However, whenever I tell it to start installing, it says "waiting for apt-get to exit" does anyone know how to fix this?
[22:26] <noiro> I found it annoying in SSH to see uninstalled packages and my inability to open gnome over X11 was more infuriating
[22:26] <Fusion_> how do you open the Gnome Tweak Tool from the terminal as its not in the menu
[22:26] <Gnea> Fusion_: find the command in /usr/bin and run it
[22:26] <Fusion_> how do i do that i am a novis here was using ubuntu to be a web server
[22:26] <zykotick9> noiro: x11 over ssh wasn't designed to open desktops - it was designed to open applications
[22:27] <optikx> can anyone help me with wine and ultima online
[22:27] <noiro> zykotick9: But I don't remember half the commands. :P And I can't find a decent VNC application (i hear there is something faster than VNC)
[22:27] <Nithael_du_Lac> noiro: sudo apt-get install update-manager-core
[22:27] <Gnea> Fusion_: open a terminal and cd /usr/bin then ls
[22:27] <optikx> i got ulitma installed with wine but last time i did this it wouldnt patch or run game
[22:27] <zykotick9> optikx: you could try #winehq
[22:27] <optikx> zykotick9 it tells you how to install and get uo working
[22:28] <Nithael_du_Lac> noiro: vi /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[22:28] <optikx> maybe it will just work this time
[22:28] <zykotick9> noiro: i hear freenz is faster then vnc (but remote guis make no sense to me - good luck)
[22:28] <Nithael_du_Lac> noiro: if you want, change the LTS string to NORMAL (not in caps, plz)
[22:28] <optikx> do i have to set the games patcher and certain files in wine like some configuration i have to do wont just run
[22:28] <Nithael_du_Lac> noiro: and run --->  sudo do-release-upgrade
[22:28] <Nithael_du_Lac> noiro: easy as that.
[22:29] <noiro> Nithael_du_Lac: Where do I change LTS to normal? gnome-shell currently doesn't work right for me. :P
[22:29] <zykotick9> optikx: #winehq is the irc channel...
[22:29] <optikx> thx
[22:29] <Nithael_du_Lac> noiro: vi /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[22:30]  * noiro goes to lookup how to use vi
[22:30] <Nithael_du_Lac> noiro: set the string as this one:. Prompt=normal
[22:30] <Nithael_du_Lac> hunm
[22:30] <Fusion_> so the Gnome Tweak tool does not really help
[22:30] <Nithael_du_Lac> noiro: mcedit ?
[22:31] <Nithael_du_Lac> noiro: pico  ?  a lot of editors are available to you!
[22:31] <Nithael_du_Lac> noiro: explore!  ;-)
[22:31] <Fusion_> well Ubuntu has a huge problem with the mouse i am going to try derbin thanks for the help
[22:31] <Bramdw> Hi all! I got a fresh installed hardware and 12.04 with no sound. The HW is an asus P8Z77-V with intel audio and there's an Nvidia GFX with HDMI as well. I've already tried all the online guides I could find, and surprisingly  all seems fine, but still I get no sound whatsoever. Anybody any suggestions or could lead me in the right direction?
[22:32] <Nithael_du_Lac> Fusion_: sorry for that... I have tried to help .. :(
[22:33] <Bramdw> the sound hardware is detected in aplay -l, alsamixer and pavucontrol are all un-muted, but still...
[22:33] <noiro> Alright. Anyone know what is wrong with the Nvidia GTS 450?
[22:34] <DanTheBeastMan> hello, so I'm running Xubuntu, and am feeling like trying out unity, so I ran `apt-get install unity` and it pulled in a ton of dependencies and everything seemed to be okay, except there's no option in lightdm to login to it. is there a config file for lightdm I need to configure?
[22:34] <Gnea> yay, figured the problem out!
[22:35] <Nithael_du_Lac> Anybody knows if the Ubuntu Private Cloud (opensource installed with Maas and Juju) deploys Windows Server as Cloud Machines? I do not want to pass by tons of codding for nothing guys.. plz.. anybody!
[22:35] <okay> DanTheBeastMan: i'd just do 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[22:35] <Bramdw> noiro, I hope nothing? I'm running the GTX560 and it seems to work for me under 12.04
[22:36] <DanTheBeastMan> well, I've done that before and plymouth glitched out and was a weird mix of the ubuntu and xubuntu logo.. and again I've already installed unity and it's dependencies. I don't see the need to install a huge metapackage when my problem could be solved with a quick hack at a text file
[22:37] <Nithael_du_Lac> Anybody knows if the Ubuntu Private Cloud (opensource installed with Maas and Juju) deploys Windows Server as Cloud Machines? I do not want to pass by tons of codding for nothing guys.. plz.. anybody!
[22:37] <beandog> huh?
[22:38] <beandog> Nithael_du_Lac: rephrase that second part
[22:38] <DanTheBeastMan> Nithael_du_Lac: I cannot imagine Ubuntu deploying a proprietary stack in a cloud server. I would strongly guess no
[22:39] <Bramdw> No one here familiar with sound issues or could guide me in the right direction?
[22:39] <Nithael_du_Lac> Ow man.. :(  I though that wold do, for Ubuntu Cloud stacks up with amazon and others ... maybe only the " non-free" solution.
[22:39] <Nithael_du_Lac> would**
[22:39] <noiro> hey guys, I enabled cairo-dock with gnome with effects and all I see is the dock (without a compositing manager at that)
[22:40] <DanTheBeastMan> noiro: and with a compmgr?
[22:40] <noiro> All I see is the dock (which has a blakc box around it). And I thought gnome had one built in.
[22:41] <DanTheBeastMan> gnome3 does have an extension to enable a dock
[22:41] <noiro> But gnome-shell keeps putting me in fallback mode and I am told it is an issue with the GTS 450
[22:41] <DanTheBeastMan> I think the one in 'meta view' works well enough without adding another one in application view
[22:41] <simplew> how can i open manuals in yelp?
[22:42] <b0nghitter> i just installed ubuntu 12.04 32bit, and it said there was an error during "select packages" while installing.. i retried a few times, and ended up having to skip it and move onto the grub install. it can ping 8.8.8.8, but tells me to put in the install cd to install apps using apt-get install... what went wrong, and how do i fix it, other than reinstalling? i dont see why it errored to begin with. 64bit has installed many times just fine. the cur
[22:42] <b0nghitter> rent pc isnt 64bit though.
[22:43] <DanTheBeastMan> b0nghitter: did you check the hashsum before installing
[22:43] <b0nghitter> no, the download completed without any problem so i figured it was fine....
[22:44] <DanTheBeastMan> are you doing the minimal install?
[22:44] <b0nghitter> do i need to run the "check media" from the install cd boot menu? i wanted to install openssh and dns servers, but it errored while retrieving files
[22:45] <b0nghitter> its the 600 or so mb 32bit server iso
[22:45] <DanTheBeastMan> probably because you're not connected to the internet
[22:45] <b0nghitter> it is connected
[22:45] <b0nghitter> it gets an ip from dhcp and pings 8.8.8.8 after booting
[22:45] <zykotick9> b0nghitter: the "the current pc isnt 64bit though" sets off alarm bells for me.
[22:45] <DanTheBeastMan> switch to another tty and `dhclient; ping -c3 google.com; sudo apt-get update` try again
[22:46] <b0nghitter> its al old p4 pc
[22:46] <b0nghitter> ah, it did not set anything in resolv.conf
[22:47] <zykotick9> b0nghitter: i believe resolv.conf is deprecated in 12.04...
[22:47] <nythrow> Hello guys.
[22:48] <nythrow> I'm totaly new in Unity so forgive me... Where can I find opened applications? On Unity Panel - this one on the left?
[22:48] <b0nghitter> so i see.. where do i set it manually?
[22:49] <DanTheBeastMan> dhclient normally configures all hard-wire connections
[22:49] <Nithael_du_Lac> Mine resolv.conf it is been used normally..
[22:49] <ceege> you get dns in /etc/network/interfaces
[22:49] <Nithael_du_Lac> cat /etc/resolv.conf --> nameserver 8.8.8.8
[22:49] <ceege> add a line like "dns-servers 8.8.8.8 4.2.2.2
[22:49] <noiro> how do I uninstall gnome?
[22:49] <Nithael_du_Lac> and it is working fine.
[22:50] <ceege> oops I mean "dns-nameservers 4.2.2.2 8.8.8.8" and "dns-search domain.com"
[22:50] <DanTheBeastMan> noiro: sudo apt-get purge
[22:50] <Nithael_du_Lac> ceege: dns-nameservers
[22:50] <Nithael_du_Lac> ceege: oops x2
[22:50] <noiro> Dan, I tried that already
[22:50] <b0nghitter> i think my problem was it not getting dns servers from my dhcp, since its on another vlan.. ill put it on the normal vlan and retry. ty for pointing me in the right direction, i figured it was working fine :(
[22:50] <DanTheBeastMan> gnome3?
[22:50] <Nithael_du_Lac> ceege :  ;-)
[22:50] <_jdccdevel> Anyone know of an easy way to add a new boot option (custom kernel params) to the grub boot menu?
[22:50] <noiro> it cleared 900kb...of gnome's 500mb
[22:51] <nythrow> And where the hell should I look for the tray?
[22:51] <DanTheBeastMan> sudo apt-get purge gnome-shell && sudo apt-get autoremove
[22:51] <netw0rm> 5
[22:53] <IntuitiveNipple> _jdccdevel: Edit "/etc/default/grub" GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" then do sudo update-grub
[22:54] <zykotick9> _jdccdevel: fyi IntuitiveNipple advice above is good, but will apply to all linux kernels you boot
[22:55] <_jdccdevel> IntuitiveNipple, that changes the options for all the kernels. I want to entries to boot an existing kernel with two sets of options.
[22:55] <IntuitiveNipple> _jdccdevel: You'd need to write a script to go in /etc/grub.d/
[22:56] <zykotick9> _jdccdevel: check out /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[22:58] <Kamryn> has anyone gotten ubuntu to work on an ultrabook w/o losing battery life?
[22:58] <zykotick9> _jdccdevel: fyi using 40_custom was a pain - cause kernel updates required manual grub reconfiguration...
[22:58] <Kamryn> (compared to windows)
[22:58] <DanTheBeastMan> soo.. yeah where does lightdm store it's DE/WM options...?
[22:59] <noiro> Hey guys, any reason why nothing shows up for me if I try to select Ubuntu instead of Ubuntu 2D? I get the sidebar, but nothing shows up on top. What's going on?
[22:59] <Praxi> hmm ubuntu 12.04 x64, seems like the first few seconds a sound stream starts, it gets garbled, like its playing extra fast.  then it plays fine.
[22:59] <zykotick9> Kamryn: battery life is typically better on windows (due to manufacturers providing MS with specific hardware setups, or wrighting it themselves).  although gnu/linux is sometimes more battery conserving.
[23:00] <_jdccdevel> IntuitiveNipple, I can copy the Menuentry section of /boot/grub/grub.cfg to /etc/grub.d/40_custom right?
[23:00] <Kamryn> zykotick9 thank you
[23:01] <_jdccdevel> zykotick9, what would you suggest otherwise?
[23:01] <netw0rm> nice
[23:01] <boghiu19> _jdccdevel: are u still here?
[23:02] <IntuitiveNipple> _jdccdevel: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Setup#Scripts:_.2BAC8-etc.2BAC8-grub.d.2BAC8-
[23:02] <zykotick9> _jdccdevel: nothing - if you want specific kernel paramater for "certain" kernels...  good luck man.
[23:02] <b0nghitter> can i check the md5sum of an iso without installing any apps in win7? i have imgburn and poweriso if they can do it.. check disc for defects failed on squid-deb-proxy twice, but i can open the iso with poweriso without any error
[23:02] <DanTheBeastMan> does anyone know where lightdm stores it's DE/WM options...? I just ran `vim -p /etc/lightdm` and none of those files have anything in them that I'm looking for
[23:03] <b0nghitter> it will take another 2 hours to dl another copy
[23:03] <folmer> b0nghitter: there are some utilites not requiring installation for win7 around on the net. Other than that, no, win7 can't do it out of the box
[23:03] <b0nghitter> ok, ty
[23:04] <_jdccdevel> zykotick9, it should be fine for a bit. I just need a boot entry to let me use my video card in vesa mode while the devs figure out why it dies otherwise.
[23:05] <IntuitiveNipple> b0nghitter: Try this: http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/
[23:05] <zykotick9> _jdccdevel: well either use default /etc/default/grub option(s) or manage the /etc/grub.d/40_custom manually
[23:05] <b0nghitter> cool, thanks
[23:08] <_jdccdevel> zykotick9, thanks!
[23:08] <kroaken> hi all
[23:12] <kroaken> does Anyone can tip me how to install a usb keyb razer ultimate BlackWidow in ubuntu its the 3 time in a row i get the error_: "(EE) Razer BlackWindow Ultimate :failed to initialize for relative axes"
[23:13] <MonkeyDust> what is BlackWidow?
[23:13] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: or BlackWindow?
[23:14] <MonkeyDust> yes
[23:15] <b0nghitter> it appears the iso was corrupted somehow, i hope im downloading a good copy. but i dont see how it could get corrupted if the dl completed successfuly :\
[23:18] <simplew> lm-sensors is not detecting all sensors, and i get this http://pastebin.com/ja5myY8Y   why is this happneing, in Mageia i get 5 temperatures from cpu to HD
[23:19] <zykotick9> simplew: compare the lm-sensors version number between the two distros...  try to get a more recent one for ubuntu most likely.
[23:28] <darkfang_> hey all..  can anyone point me at a good guide for setting up dual video cards?
[23:30] <Hawk_> hello
[23:30] <simplew> lm-sensors is not detecting all sensors, and i get this http://pastebin.com/ja5myY8Y   why is this happneing, in Mageia i get 5 temperatures from cpu to HD
[23:30] <dennisvb2> darkfang_: you mean like Optimus or sli?
[23:30] <simplew> lm-sensors is not detecting all sensors, and i get this http://pastebin.com/ja5myY8Y   why is this happneing?    in Mageia i get 5 temperatures from cpu to HD
[23:30] <darkfang_> like optimus
[23:30] <Dr_willis> darkfang_,  or do you mean 2 monitors.
[23:31] <darkfang_> actually 2 monitors
[23:31] <darkfang_> thanks
[23:31] <simplew> zykotick9: im using precise and its updated
[23:31] <Dr_willis> err.. optmius is one thing.. 2 monitors.. totally diffent thang. :)
[23:31] <zykotick9> !latest | simplew
[23:31] <darkfang_> i know..  but not that quick on the uptake sometimes heh
[23:31] <darkfang_> 2 monitors on 2 video cards
[23:31] <dennisvb2> For bumblebee https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[23:31] <Dr_willis> 2 monitors for a nvidia system. Plug them in. install the nvidia drivers, reboot.. run the nvidia-settings tool, configure monitors enable twinview. restart X server.
[23:32] <zykotick9> Dr_willis: +1
[23:33] <darkfang_> the second monitor was never registered when i installed ubuntu..  lspci says both cards are active but nothing registeres the second monitor
[23:33] <zykotick9> darkfang_: sorry i know nothing of bumblebee/optimus/dual-videocards
[23:33] <simplew> zykotick9: ubuntu hav 3.3.1 and Mageia 3.3.1 also
[23:33] <zykotick9> darkfang_: lscpi -v vga - the -v might be important to show both.
[23:33] <Dr_willis> Im not even sure how you DO optimus and Dual video cardxs.. since I thought Optimus was a Laptop Video 'solution'
[23:33] <Dr_willis> so somthing seems.. weird.
[23:34] <zykotick9> simplew: that's surpising - unexpected.  sorry, i have no suggestions.
[23:34] <Dr_willis> darkfang_,  lets get some basic info.. This is a desktop machine? What video cards are in the machine?
[23:34] <zykotick9> simplew: check kernel versions
[23:34] <dennisvb2> Dr_willis: bumblebee is indeed only for laptops, I have it on my xps 15
[23:35] <Dr_willis> dennisvb2,  :) so you see why i find this confuseing.
[23:35] <darkfang_> its a dell dimension from way back..  2 video, one onboard the other pci
[23:35] <simplew> zykotick9: mageia has kernel-3.4.1
[23:35] <darkfang_> onboard is intel, pci is nvidia
[23:35] <zykotick9> !info linux-image
[23:35] <zykotick9> simplew: that 3.2 vs 3.4 might be a difference
[23:36] <simplew> zykotick9: acpi was not installed, werid
[23:36] <troulouliou_dev> hiin which package is located the apache2 site-available/000-default file ?
[23:37] <dennisvb2> darkfang_: maybe this is useful http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/08/ubuntu-tips-how-to-setup-dual-monitor/
[23:37] <dennisvb2> !topic
[23:37] <escott> simplew, have you run sensors-detect and loaded the appropriate modules
[23:38] <Dr_willis> darkfang_,  too bad the nvidia card dosent have 2 video outs.. then it would be fairly easy. but that nvidia May be so old the drivers from nvidia.com may not support it any more.
[23:38] <kroaken_> hello everyone
[23:38] <darkfang_> dennisvb2 - the detect does not see second monitor
[23:38] <simplew> escott: i did and thats what the ouput http://pastebin.com/ja5myY8Y  is about
[23:39] <dennisvb2> darkfang_: oh...
[23:39] <escott> simplew, sudo?
[23:39] <Dr_willis> darkfang_,  if you just plug in a moniotor the the intel onboard video.. does it work?
[23:39] <darkfang_> Dr_willis, yes
[23:40] <darkfang_> Dr_willis  and winslowzXP duals them correctly
[23:40] <Dr_willis> darkfang_,  so what drivers are you using under linux for the nvidia card?
[23:40] <ldz420> Hey I am having issues with firefox-globalmenu
[23:41] <darkfang_> the post release ubuntu driver for the nvidia and the i915 for the onboard
[23:41] <ldz420> I did a search and couldn't find much on it
[23:41] <ldz420> anyone have any direction on the matter?
[23:41] <dennisvb2> darkfang_: do you want to mirror or extend
[23:42] <Dr_willis> ldz420,  so far you havent really given much details. :)
[23:42] <darkfang_> Dr_willis - ideally extend
[23:42] <darkfang_> (cant spell tonight at all)
[23:42] <kroaken_> does Anyone can tip me how to install a usb keyb razer ultimate BlackWidow in ubuntu its the 3 time in a row i get the error_: "(EE) Razer BlackWindow Ultimate :failed to initialize for relative axes"
[23:42] <Dr_willis> ldz420,  its a firefox extension made by the ubuntu devs to have FF use the global menu feature..
[23:43] <dennisvb2> darkfang_: how many hdmi or dvi outs does it have?
[23:43] <Dr_willis> kroaken_,  that some weird keyboard+joystick/pad thangie? or what.
[23:43] <ldz420> Dr_willis: well situation is that when using the HUD global menu bar for firefox it appears to crash
[23:44] <darkfang_> dennisvb2 - nvidia has 2 ports, 1 dvi and 1 vga, onboard only has vga
[23:44] <ldz420> crash firefox that is
[23:44] <Dr_willis> ldz420,  check for bug reports? disable the global menu plugin perhaps.
[23:44] <ldz420> well I have removed it for now..
[23:44] <ldz420> so go to launchpad or is a better place to look?
[23:45] <dennisvb2> darkfang_: if you want to extend you need two dvi ports unless you want to use vga
[23:45] <darkfang_> dennisvb2 - i figured i would have to use the vga's
[23:46] <dennisvb2> darkfang_: oh well
[23:46] <Dr_willis> !bugs
[23:47] <darkfang_> im sure its just my xorg.conf because windows loads things correctly..  and i can run either independantly with ubuntu, just not together
[23:47] <ldz420> Dr_willis: thx for the direction
[23:48] <Dr_willis> darkfang_,  or it could be the 2 drivers not playing nicely
[23:48] <kion> I installed 16 GB of ram on my computer, is there a way other thatn Swapiness and vm_cache_pressure  to make ubuntu take advantage of the RAM?
[23:48] <darkfang_> Dr_willis  i was really hoping that wasnt the case.. but im getting close the that conclusion
[23:48] <darkfang_> *to
[23:49] <Dr_willis> darkfang_,  a lot depends on the exact nvidia card/gpu/chipset.
[23:51] <darkfang_> Dr_willis -  its a 6200 series with an nvidia chip i believe..  but its pci..  the intel is an 82865 proc
[23:55] <Dr_willis> darkfang_,  perhaps check the askubuntu.com site and give details (lspci output) if you ask a question there bout the,
[23:55] <darkfang_> Dr_Willis  lspci -vv shows both video cards have modules loaded  and dmesg shows no errors
[23:56] <darkfang_> Dr_willis  - Ok, thanks for the tip..
[23:56] <Dr_willis> darkfang_,  you used the addational-drivers tool to install the nvidia drivers? or is it using the open sourced drivers?
[23:57] <darkfang_> Dr_willis - i just realized that its loading nouveau as well as the proprietary nvidia crap..
[23:58] <Dr_willis> darkfang_,  one will blacklist the other. - I imagine you may want to just remove the nvidia drivers and try with intel+nouveau
[23:59] <darkfang_> Dr_willis, ok..  ill try that..
[23:59] <Dr_willis> I tend to find the noveau drivers more 'crap' :) then the nvidia drivers.. but it has improved greately in the last 6 months i will admiot.