[20:52] <elfy> astraljava: do we have an alpha3 tomorrow - does it need long testing ?
[20:52] <elfy> and hi :)
[23:37] <ochosi> knome, mr_pouit: let me add this to the "do away with xscreensaver, instead just use a lock-thingy", this is how far lightdm is in that respect: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-p-lock-screen
[23:38] <ochosi> i.e. not very far. i've been looking out for alternatives, and to be honest, none of them is working extra-smooth or great-looking
[23:38] <ochosi> would be great if some of you could take a look at this issue as i'll be away from tomorrow evening
[23:39] <pleia2> is keeping xscreensaver and just defaulting to blank xscreensaver+screen lock an option?
[23:39] <ochosi> sure
[23:40] <ochosi> it's just not a huge step forward apart from a better default setting (no screensaver)
[23:40] <pleia2> I think that may be as close as we can get until lightdm gets sorted
[23:40] <ochosi> probably
[23:41] <ochosi> i mean just because i wasn't happy with the screen-lockers around doesn't mean someone else doesn't find them more appealing than xscreensaver
[23:41] <ochosi> e.g. xlockmore is far more configurable, we could at least set a xubuntu-logo somewhere etc
[23:41] <pleia2> I am not sure how something can be more ugly than xscreensaver
[23:41] <pleia2> :)
[23:41] <ochosi> hehe
[23:41] <ochosi> how true
[23:42] <pleia2> do you have a list of lockers to try out?
[23:43] <ochosi> i do, but i'm not sure it's "complete" or anything
[23:43] <pleia2> that's ok, I'd like to give a few a try to see
[23:44] <ochosi> xlockmore, xlockmore-gl, xtrlock, i3lock
[23:44] <pleia2> ty
[23:44] <ochosi> then there's also slock, but it doesn't seem to be packaged
[23:44] <ochosi> oh, and let's not forget gnome-screensaver :D
[23:45] <ochosi> which reminds me, if you find anything useful there, you can also reply to this guy: http://askubuntu.com/questions/141532/recommendation-about-screen-lock-application-in-xubuntu
[23:45] <pleia2> does ubuntu ship with gnome-screensaver these days?
[23:45] <ochosi> i'd assume so
[23:45] <ochosi> at least that's what the blueprint above suggests
[23:45] <pleia2> hm, it can recommend on xfce4-power-manager
[23:46] <ochosi> hm?
[23:46] <pleia2> gnome-screensaver
[23:46] <pleia2> was just looking at the dependencies
[23:46] <ochosi> oh right
[23:47] <ochosi> gnome-desktop3-data ;)
[23:47] <ochosi> and gnome-settings-daemon
[23:47] <pleia2> yeah :\
[23:47] <ochosi> so yeah, i guess i should've added i was mostly kidding mentioning that one :)
[23:48] <pleia2> the :D tipped me off, but I was curious :)
[23:49] <ochosi> hehe
[23:51] <ochosi> thing is that i _could_ send an email to robert ancell, but otoh i won't be around to read it when he replies
[23:52] <ochosi> so it'd be better if someone else quickly asked him about the chances of lightdm managing the lockscreen in 12.10
[23:52] <ochosi> (also: we _have_ to sort out our greeter first. if we're stuck with the gtk-greeter, then using lightdm as screenlocker most likely isn't an option)
[23:54] <pleia2> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/topic-quantal-desktop-greeter-lockscreen seems to have a target
[23:55] <ochosi> yeah true, but the essential lock-part is completely on TODO
[23:56] <ochosi> (i mean there's still one month to FF, but hmmm...)
[23:56]  * pleia2 nods