[03:34] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: hey, could you please ask Leann and VanHoof if they want to be part of the test session, so we can schedule it with bdmurray?
[07:40] <elfy> morning
[08:51] <czajkowski> Good day to you :)
[08:51] <nothingspecial> and good day to you czajkowski
[08:58] <philballew> what a nice bunch of people here this fine day
[08:59] <czajkowski> it's lovely
[08:59] <czajkowski> sitting in the office looking out at the sunshine, enjoying the air con :_)
[08:59] <philballew> Ive never been to Europe, Maybe one day I'll have to leave America.
[09:00] <philballew> You need ac there?
[09:00] <czajkowski> I do today
[09:00] <czajkowski> :)
[09:00] <nothingspecial> It's lovely today philballew, been rubbish recently
[09:00] <czajkowski> it's 22 degrees and 10am
[09:01] <philballew> That sounds nice
[09:01] <philballew> One day ill need to come there and check it out
[13:56] <mhall119> man, I'd *love* 22C in the morning
[13:57] <mhall119> it's almost 30C here
[13:58]  * mhall119 is a Floridian, so I'm allowed to complain about the heat :)
[14:01] <czajkowski> I <3 heat
[14:02] <jcastro> heat is awesome
[14:03] <mhall119> heat sucks, I'd rather be cold
[14:04] <czajkowski> mhall119: you're just weird
[14:04] <czajkowski> bring on the heat
[14:04] <czajkowski> would happily live in florida, bar I'd have to move to USA so that's a no :)
[14:04] <jcastro> JoseeAntonioR: where's the G+ for ubuntuonair? I need to find it so I can circle circle
[14:07] <jcastro> popey: ok we tested the set up for ubuntuonair.com, that should scale just fine on thursday
[14:09] <popey> coolio
[14:09]  * popey might have to go and get his air con
[14:10] <popey> which isn't really air con at all
[14:10] <cjohnston> heat sucks
[14:12] <jcastro> popey: hey, are you joining in the onair?
 wanna cohost?
 sure
[14:13] <jcastro> ah ok
[14:13] <jcastro> I need to add you
[14:13] <czajkowski> popey: nice and cool in here :) shuuda come in
[14:13] <jcastro> popey: when are you in the office next?
[14:13] <popey> no idea
[14:13] <popey> off to IoM next week
[14:14]  * jcastro points and laughs
[14:14] <czajkowski> jcastro: anything you need in here?
[14:14] <popey> :D
[14:14] <jcastro> in  here?
[14:15] <czajkowski> jcastro: the office
[14:15] <jcastro> czajkowski: oh, you're in the office?
[14:15] <czajkowski> yes
[14:15] <jcastro> I didn't know that
[14:15] <czajkowski> I go in here every week
[14:15] <czajkowski> pah
[14:15] <czajkowski> clearly not in the special group of jcastro :(
[14:16] <jcastro> hey so if will cook is around ask him if he wants to be on ubuntuonair.
[14:16] <jcastro> but then if he has nothing to say but "oh nothing we're rewriting it for unity3d" then tell him to get back to work and nevermind
[14:16] <czajkowski> am only a messenger :(
[14:16] <czajkowski> leemie go and see
[14:16] <jcastro> basically
[14:16] <jcastro> "jorge wants to know if you have anything cool to talk about"
[14:17] <czajkowski> so gald she has a use!
[14:17] <popey> looks like will is off today
[14:17] <czajkowski> 2 ticks
[14:17] <popey> not seen him online
[14:17] <czajkowski> popey: busy in here!
[14:17] <czajkowski> beuno team are in the house !
[14:17] <popey> glad I'm not there then :)
[14:18] <jcastro> http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/x2nic/this_thursday_were_having_ubuntu_developers/
[14:18] <jcastro> how about some upboats then?
[14:19] <popey> jcastro, i removed the search from the theme when I had wp on my box
[14:19] <popey> because it's not much use up the top right there
[14:19] <jcastro> I don't want to mod it anymore, for round 2 we'll do it in the charm
[14:20] <popey> k
[14:20] <czajkowski> jcastro: poked mark baker to poke him
[14:20] <czajkowski> he was here
[14:21]  * popey looks around and remembers again he needs to tidy his office
[14:25] <czajkowski> jcastro: see pm
[14:42] <popey> er
[14:42] <popey> jcastro, there's an ubuntu on air G+ page...?
[14:43] <jcastro> I need to follow an account or something
[14:43] <popey> the logo is borked, it has the pixel size in the top left
[14:43] <jcastro> to get on there
[14:43] <popey> https://plus.google.com/events/c53e0ghh67r6dqnup0e6vbnj9tc/111560558537332305125
[14:43] <popey> who is mitesh shah?
[14:44] <jcastro> no clue
[14:46]  * popey pokes him
[14:48] <SergioMeneses> popey, jcastro hello! is ubuntu-on-air event public?
[14:48] <jcastro> of course!
[14:50] <SergioMeneses> ok... I hope yo be present
[14:50] <SergioMeneses> *to
[14:51] <popey> jcastro, did you make an ubuntuonair page? if not I'll do it now.
[14:51] <jcastro> huh?
[14:51] <jcastro> we have one
[14:51] <jcastro> ubuntuonair.com
[14:51] <popey> no, a G+ page
[14:51] <popey> that people can follow
[14:52] <popey> can then create an event
[14:52] <SergioMeneses> popey, +1
[14:52] <jcastro> but what about this page?
[14:52] <popey> hmmmm
[14:52] <SergioMeneses> the page can give information, events, photos, ...
[14:53] <jcastro> we have a page already
[14:53] <popey> the ubuntuonair.com was originally only intented to be a nice shortcut to get to it
[14:53] <popey> which could point at anythingf
[14:53] <jcastro> it's fine
[14:53] <jcastro> seriously, you guys are putting more effort making more things to maintain than the actual event.
[14:53] <popey> says the guy who spun up a cloud
[14:53] <popey> :)
[14:54] <jcastro> because you decided to make a webpage to send people to!
[14:54] <SergioMeneses> jcastro, you're right
[14:54] <jcastro> we could have just done a G+ account
[14:54] <popey> because ubuntuonair.com is easier to remember than a long G+ url
[14:54] <jcastro> but for some reason we had to have a twitter
[14:54] <popey> thats all
[14:54] <jcastro> an irc channel
[14:54] <jcastro> a bot
[14:54] <jcastro> a council
[14:54] <jcastro> a mailing list
[14:54] <jcastro> a derivative distro
[14:54] <jcastro> and so on
[14:54] <popey> rewind
[14:54] <popey> the original intention of the domain was _just_ to point at the G+ hangout
[14:54] <popey> that is _all_
[14:55] <popey> because G+ urls suck
[14:55] <jcastro> ok so that's fine
[14:55] <popey> and we can easily edit a page in WP and point it to the "current" hangout
[14:55] <jcastro> if you want to just make a G+ page
[14:55] <jcastro> and send it there
[14:55] <jcastro> then we can do that.
[14:55] <popey> i really dont mind :)
[14:55] <popey> just making sure you understand why it existed in the first place
[14:55] <popey> it wasn't to make stuff for stuffs sake
[14:55] <popey> but to make it easy to find
[14:55] <jcastro> oh I know exactly why it all exists
[14:56] <jcastro> infrastructure brigade!
[14:56] <popey> ok, carry on.
[14:56] <jcastro> heh
[14:56] <jcastro> keep calm, carry on
[15:02] <jcastro> balloons: hey, was this meeting cancelled and I missed it?
[15:02] <balloons> jcastro, hmm
[15:02] <jcastro> I got a cal alert for an irc meeting
[15:02] <balloons> I'm kind of wondering myself.. It's just us and mhall119 about is my guess
[15:02] <jcastro> oh, bacon must be swap daying?
[15:03] <balloons> I don't believe so -- I was to speak with him this afternoon
[15:10] <balloons> there's the jono-nator now!
[15:10] <jono> howdy balloons
[15:11]  * balloons notes that nickname looks as akward as it sounds
[15:11] <jono> haha
[15:30] <jcastro> http://twitter.com/castrojo/status/227786911710851072
[15:30] <jcastro> RT please!
[15:33] <balloons> done
[15:38] <SergioMeneses> jcastro, done
[15:44] <SergioMeneses> jcastro, balloons bkerensa http://sergioandresmeneses.wordpress.com/2012/07/24/ubuntu-co-has-a-new-video-about-ubuntu/
[15:48] <balloons> SergioMeneses, nice video.. Yo no hablo espanol, but it was still well down and put together
[15:49] <balloons> *well done
[15:50] <SergioMeneses> balloons, sure... I think we need to make more things in others languages
[15:51] <balloons> yes.. i love that ubuntu crosses languages and countries to reach everyone!
[15:55] <SergioMeneses> balloons, +1 :) me too
[16:01] <jono> mhall119, hey
[16:01] <mhall119> jono: ready?
[16:01] <jono> mhall119, I didn't get a chance to speak to Jamie/Steve L yesterday
[16:02] <mhall119> that's okay,I talked to him this morning
[16:02] <jono> oh cool
[16:02] <jono> lets go then
[16:02] <mhall119> well, to jamie anyway
[16:02] <mhall119> not steve
[16:02] <jono> np
[16:02] <jono> setting it up
[16:03] <jono> mhall119, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/ebbce1454ea3dbe210fd7293a5c19de0b3972d25?authuser=0&hl=en-US
[16:07] <jussi> o/
[16:07] <jussi> hello everyone, its been a awhile :D
[16:07] <bkerensa> jussi: u have been hiding
[16:08] <jcastro> jono: hey I'm on holiday 2 fridays in a row, we might want to catch up tomorrow or thursday (prior to the ubuntu on air)
[16:08] <jussi>  bkerensa only from you :P
[16:08] <jcastro> <--- lunching
[16:08] <SergioMeneses> jussi, \o
[16:08] <jussi> hi SergioMeneses
[16:09] <SergioMeneses> hello jussi
[16:10] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: I'll get you the link as soon as I get home (~3.5h)
[16:10] <JoseeAntonioR> at school atm
[16:12] <SergioMeneses> JoseeAntonioR, I need help with josebot, are you busy?
[16:13] <jono> jcastro, np, I have a few things I wanted to discuss too
[16:13] <jono> jcastro, can we chat later today?
[16:13] <jcastro> yeah, let me get chow and I'll catch you on the flipside
[16:13] <jcastro> bbi ~30
[16:14] <jono> jcastro, np
[16:15] <bkerensa> =/ nobody told me the chevy volt is 100% electric
[16:20] <popey> the clue is in the name
[16:21] <czajkowski> ROFLOL
[16:26] <JoseeAntonioR> SergioMeneses: yeah
[16:26] <JoseeAntonioR> i'm in a exam right now
[16:28] <SergioMeneses> JoseeAntonioR, give a minute... I'm working
[16:31] <czajkowski> SergioMeneses: ola!
[16:33] <SergioMeneses> JoseeAntonioR, ok... i'm redy
[16:33] <SergioMeneses> ready
[16:33] <SergioMeneses> czajkowski, hi! :D how you been?
[16:34] <czajkowski> SergioMeneses: good thank s
[16:34] <czajkowski> busy :)
[16:34] <czajkowski> but good
[16:36] <SergioMeneses> czajkowski, me too :)
[17:13] <pleia2> balloons: do you know who is in charge of Friendly these days? I'd love to see a blog post encouraging people to test their hardware on 12.04 :)
[17:14] <bkerensa> pleia2: I'm working on the blog post now actually lol
[17:14] <balloons> bkerensa, ohh?
[17:17] <jcastro> jono: I can go whenever
[17:18] <jono> jcastro, otp
[17:18] <balloons> pleia2, on the hw testing front I'll be kicking off a campaign next month to get people invovled
[17:20] <balloons> work is on-going to create a community hw database, and once it's out there.. I'll ask people to fill it
[17:21] <pleia2> balloons: something separate than friendly, or..?
[17:22] <balloons> pleia2, yes, something seperate from friendly.. it will have a testing focus
[17:22] <balloons> friendly of course is meant to help understand what ubuntu works with and what it doesn't
[17:22] <pleia2> balloons: aw, is friendly going to be maintained still?
[17:22] <pleia2> (I've been telling people to use it, and people like it!)
[17:22] <balloons> pleia2, it's still being maintained yes
[17:23] <pleia2> ok, thanks :)
[17:24] <balloons> pleia2, yes -- I used it myself to help buy my new laptop :-)
[17:24] <pleia2> me too
[17:29] <bkerensa> balloons / pleia2: post out
[17:30] <bkerensa> pleia2: :P my laptop is certified and doesnt work fully unfortunately ;p
[17:30] <bkerensa> but I blame Linus for this *shakes fist*
[17:32] <bkerensa> oddly its certified http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201106-8252/ but not in the Ubuntu Friendly database
[17:32] <bkerensa> ;p
[17:39] <jono> jcastro, all set?
[17:39] <jcastro> sure, you initiating or me?
[17:39] <jono> jcastro, I will set it up
[17:40] <bkerensa> jono: u guys need reserved hangout instances ;p
[17:41] <jcastro> we used to have one
[17:41] <jcastro> but now they don't do like reserved URLs
[17:41] <jono> indeed
[17:41] <jono> jcastro, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/be2e3d88cac29dc3ecf513a8757a81c0ca9fbd36?authuser=0&hl=en-US
[17:43] <balloons> pleia2, congrats btw! well deserved award
[17:44] <pleia2> balloons: thank you :)
[17:44] <bkerensa> :D
[20:30] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: ping ping
[20:32] <jcastro> pong pong
[20:33] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: https://plus.google.com/113179255019669411234/posts
[20:33] <JoseeAntonioR> that's ubuntu on air's profile
[20:34] <JoseeAntonioR> it's now visible on search
[20:34] <jcastro> ok so speakers need to follow this one for it to work right?
[20:34] <JoseeAntonioR> yep
[20:35] <JoseeAntonioR> I still can't find robert, will try with Leann and VanHoof
[20:35] <JoseeAntonioR> and Barton George too
[20:37] <JoseeAntonioR> done, we just need Robert
[20:42] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: when are we having the test session with the speakers?
[20:42] <jcastro> all of them use G+ regularly, I don't think we need to do that.
[20:42] <jcastro> what we should do is practice the "launching" part
[20:42] <JoseeAntonioR> bdmurray asked for one
[20:42] <jcastro> like all the stuff on that wiki page with the gotchas
[20:42] <JoseeAntonioR> let me open it, one sec
[20:42] <jcastro> oh ok, then we'll done one with him I guess
[20:43] <JoseeAntonioR> let me ping him
[20:44] <JoseeAntonioR> ok, what about the launching part?
[20:47] <JoseeAntonioR> popey: did you get the code for the widget?
[20:48] <popey> no reply yet JoseeAntonioR
[20:48] <JoseeAntonioR> urgh, ok
[20:48] <popey> but the date/time is clear on the page
[20:48] <JoseeAntonioR> yeah
[20:48] <popey> i dont think we need it
[20:48] <popey> overkill
[20:49] <JoseeAntonioR> well, right, no widget then :)
[20:49] <JoseeAntonioR> also, there are tweets 10 mins before, so people won't miss it
[20:49] <jcastro> How about a countdown?
[20:50] <jcastro> Anything that can make more work for popey perhaps?
[20:50] <bkerensa> lol
[20:50] <JoseeAntonioR> :P
[20:50] <bkerensa> jcastro: can popey make some flyers too? :P
[20:50] <JoseeAntonioR> yeah, they can be included in conference packs
[20:50] <jcastro> popey: Hey I met Andy Piper at OSCON
[20:50] <popey> nice chap isnt he?
[20:51] <popey> he's hosting next UUPC as I'm in IoM I think
[20:51]  * popey shakes fist
[20:51] <jcastro> he's pretty awesome, I've actually been searching for someone in his role at VMWare for weeks
[20:51] <jcastro> running into him was basically perfect for me
[20:52] <popey> heh
[20:52] <popey> did you know he works in the same building as we have our uk office now?
[20:52] <popey> Bluefin
[20:52] <popey> first day i went in I bumped into him in the restaurant
[20:52] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: bdmurray's here
[20:54] <bkerensa> JoseeAntonioR: oh yeah? :P
[20:54] <JoseeAntonioR> not in the channel, but active
[20:58] <jcastro> feel free to just fire it up with him
[20:58] <jcastro> bbiab
[20:58] <jcastro> <-- out of caffeine, panic!
[20:59] <JoseeAntonioR> D:
[20:59] <JoseeAntonioR> popey, jcastro: is the widget in ubuntuonair.com fine?
[21:00] <popey> ew
[21:00] <jcastro> leave the text there too
[21:00] <jcastro> also ugly
[21:00] <popey> i would just have the text there
[21:00] <jcastro> but leave the text for readabilty, paste, etc.
[21:00] <jcastro> jono: also, http://wpengine.com/
[21:00] <popey> the text also appears when you post the url in places as a preview which works nicely
[21:03] <jono> jcastro, looking at that now
[21:03] <jcastro> it's expensive relatively speaking, but it's the top tier, pro bloggers, etc.
[21:10] <nigelb> Does heroku not have a solution for this?
[21:10]  * nigelb is mildly surprised
[21:13] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: shall I invite you to the test session?
[21:14] <bkerensa> jcastro: I guess you are a "Canonical developer relations executive" ;p
[21:14] <jcastro> indeed
[21:14] <jcastro> nigelb: heroku to gost a blog?
[21:14] <jcastro> err, host a blog?
[21:15] <nigelb> jcastro: maybe I'm thinking on different lines :D
[21:15] <jcastro> JoseeAntonioR: sure
[21:16] <jcastro> nigelb: I think if he wanted to write his own web blogging platform and sell it as a service to others then yeah, heroku ftw.
[21:16] <nigelb> jcastro: heh, like a wp hosting service :P
[21:16] <JoseeAntonioR> done
[21:16] <jcastro> indeed
[21:17] <jcastro> bkerensa: lemme know when you wanna have a blog throwdown again
[21:17] <bkerensa> I cant
[21:17] <bkerensa> I need my PV's
[21:17] <bkerensa> ;p
[21:18] <bkerensa> but I am using wpengine now
[21:18] <bkerensa> for right now anyways
[21:18] <jcastro> hey, that's +3 votes for wpengine
[21:18] <bkerensa> I am going to transition to NetDNA in the coming weeks
[21:18] <bkerensa> ;)
[21:18] <jono> balloons, http://www.theorangenotebook.com/2012/07/remembering-good-ole-days.html is missing
[21:19] <balloons> whoa
[21:19] <balloons> what on earth
[21:19] <balloons> k - pushed it back
[21:19] <balloons> it somehow got unpublished?
[21:20] <balloons> fail blog
[21:21] <jcastro> jono: one thing you could do in the meantime or if you want to stay cheap is offload your images to S3 or google storage, there are transparent plugins that do all that for you
[21:21] <jono> jcastro, thanks
[21:22] <jcastro> but that's not as as nice as a real wp provider, but it's cheap
[21:22] <jcastro> I put all my assets on GCS (before S3) and it's like 35 cents a month, then serving the images is done via google/amazon and not your wordpress install
[21:24] <czajkowski> will kill https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-RvupLp2owOU/UA8RGeT2QcI/AAAAAAAAEoY/1lnHvjh6x0w/s928/Screenshot+from+2012-07-24+21%3A32%3A17.png
[21:24] <mhall119> I have the S3 media uploader plugin on my WP blog,it's really nice
[21:24] <jcastro> czajkowski: yeah after every call I killall -9 that thing
[21:24] <mhall119> adding the cache plugin helped boost performance on a t1.micro instance too
[21:24] <jcastro> otherwise *explosion sounds*
[21:26] <czajkowski> jcastro: really?
[21:26] <czajkowski> bugger
[21:26] <czajkowski> mhall119: that related to me?
[21:26] <jcastro> czajkowski: yep, sometimes when you close your browser it'll linger.
[21:27] <jcastro> you need to check after every call you make and make sure it's dead dead.
[21:27] <jcastro> though some days are better than others, mine's been behaving lately
[21:28] <czajkowski> jcastro: bugger, have sometimes 3 hangouts back to back over an hour each
[21:28] <czajkowski> just seems to be going crazy atm
[21:28] <czajkowski> what specifically do you kill ?
[21:28] <jcastro> GoogleTalkPlugin
[21:28] <czajkowski> as I'm in the moood to stab
[21:28] <czajkowski> jcastro: cheers
[21:28] <jcastro> close your browser, super, "system", hit enter to run the system monitor, sort by name, kill.
[21:28] <jcastro> don't worry, you'll be awesome at it soon. :)
[21:29] <czajkowski> thanks
[21:29] <czajkowski> am now going to bed
[21:29] <czajkowski> head is fried
[21:29] <czajkowski> toodles
[21:29] <JoseeAntonioR> czajkowski: have a good night!
[21:29] <czajkowski> jcastro: poked will and richard and an amercian for you re the on air stuff today
[21:30] <czajkowski> hope thats sorted
[21:30] <czajkowski> anyone else need physical poking am in there again tomorrow
[21:30] <jcastro> no worries, I'm all set!
[21:30] <czajkowski> grand job
[21:30] <czajkowski> met rick spencer today
[21:30] <czajkowski> looks all clean shaven and smart! no more beard!
[21:30] <jcastro> mhall119: I actually expected you to be more of a static generator guy for a blog
[21:31] <jcastro> like http://pelican.notmyidea.org/en/2.8/index.html or hyde
[21:33] <mhall119> jcastro: you keep preaching that
[21:33] <mhall119> but until Wordpress stops working for me, I'll probably keep using it
[21:33] <jcastro> what WP needs, which would be awesome
[21:34] <jcastro> is a plugin where you can put in an s3 or GSC bucket, then it would generate your entire site statically
[21:34] <jcastro> and then you could serve the entire thing from s3, etc.
[21:34] <jcastro> so you have the price/simplicity of static, but the nice gui features of wordpress
[21:36] <mhall119> that would be helpful
[21:37] <snap-l> I believe they called it Movable Type
[21:37] <snap-l> and it was anything but pretty
[21:39] <jcastro> yeah but that's because you had to wait for it to finish
[21:40] <jcastro> it'd be nice if you could publish and it would all be live etc.
[21:40] <jcastro> but in the background it would generate the files for you, etc.
[21:47] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: any issues with disqus?
[21:48] <jcastro> oh I didn't look into it
[21:48] <JoseeAntonioR> oh :P
[21:49] <jcastro> hmm, the page.php is correct, the DNS should be updated for them now
[21:52] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: btw, we've reached the 9 users limit
[21:53] <JoseeAntonioR> what did you wanted to talk about launching the session?\
[21:53] <jcastro> how did we reach the limit?
[21:53] <jcastro> they don't all go on at once
[21:54] <jcastro> they just join, hang out, and then leave
[21:54] <JoseeAntonioR> no? oh, I thought so
[21:54] <JoseeAntonioR> gotcha now
[21:57] <jcastro> hmmm, I don't know why the comments don't work
[21:57] <jcastro> will investigate tomorrow
[21:59] <JoseeAntonioR> ok :)
[22:00] <jcastro> that's my way of saying "please be DNS out of date still"
[22:00] <JoseeAntonioR> and it doesn't seem to work
[22:01] <jcastro> it won't work if they think the site is still on popey's server
[22:30] <cjohnston> jono: got time for a quick chat? pm or your preference
[23:46] <bkerensa> jcastro: ping