| bcurtiswx | kenvandine, you getting overtime? :P | 00:03 |
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| robru | just got bitten by bug 923841 on quantal. buh. | 00:18 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 923841 in intltool "intltool glade support doesn't work with menus" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/923841 | 00:18 |
| === Amaranthus is now known as Amaranth | ||
| === bcurtiswx_ is now known as bcurtiswx | ||
| pitti | chrisccoulson: new nautilus> yeah, it even breaks the backspace key, which in turn breaks my patience | 03:44 |
| desrt | pitti: surely that is a mistake... | 03:58 |
| didrocks | good morning | 05:43 |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks | 05:45 |
| RAOF | Hey, ho, didrocks! | 05:46 |
| didrocks | guten morgen pitti, hey RAOF! | 05:46 |
| RAOF | didrocks: Did you know about the “Investigate locally” button on the apport popup when you've got apport-retrace installed? | 05:47 |
| RAOF | This is my new favourite thing! | 05:47 |
| didrocks | RAOF: I never used it, I'm still apport-unpack && gdb :) | 05:47 |
| RAOF | (And my new least-favourite thing is crashes in X's error reporting only when built with optimisations) | 05:47 |
| pitti | didrocks: *gasp* documentation! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash | 05:48 |
| didrocks | ahah, typical joyness :) | 05:48 |
| didrocks | pitti: wow, with screenshots! | 05:48 |
| pitti | yeah, and by how bad they are you can see that I took them | 05:48 |
| didrocks | ok, I install apport-retrace and make my fingers happy :) | 05:48 |
| didrocks | done :) | 05:49 |
| pitti | didrocks: unpack and gdb doesn't give you the debug symbols, though? | 05:49 |
| didrocks | pitti: most of the time, I have them installed already or built on my machine with pkg-create-dbgsym | 05:49 |
| chrisccoulson | sigh @ bug 1028266. i can't believe somebody would actually report that as a bug. do people really look for things like that? | 07:05 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1028266 in firefox "firefox license change not reflected in /usr/share/doc/firefox/copyright" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1028266 | 07:05 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - yeah, i think i'm going to struggle to like the new nautilus :( | 07:07 |
| chrisccoulson | it also no longer displays folders before files either, which i also dislike quite a lot :/ | 07:08 |
| pitti | there's an option for that, though | 07:09 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, i didn't realize that | 07:11 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, the option doesn't work here | 07:12 |
| chrisccoulson | the checkbox immediately unchecks itself again | 07:12 |
| jibel | pitti, good morning | 07:17 |
| jibel | pitti, do you know the status of bug 1026066 ? | 07:17 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1026066 in software-properties "software-properties-gtk crashed with ImportError in /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/aptdaemon/client.py: No module named gobject" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1026066 | 07:17 |
| pitti | didrocks: nice, iberia has mobile tickets, and already allow checking in | 07:17 |
| pitti | bonjour jibel, ca va? | 07:17 |
| pitti | jibel: it's fixed in trunk, but not yet uploaded into the distro apparently | 07:18 |
| jibel | pitti, ça va bien, et toi ? | 07:18 |
| pitti | jibel: do you know how to trigger it? I played around with software-properties and can't reproduce it | 07:18 |
| pitti | ooh | 07:18 |
| pitti | I guess I hacked aptdaemon locally | 07:18 |
| pitti | jibel: je suis bien, merci! | 07:18 |
| didrocks | pitti: oh you can? I can't checking in personnaly | 07:18 |
| pitti | jibel: I'll have a look at this and upload | 07:19 |
| jibel | pitti, start update manager then click on 'Settings...' | 07:19 |
| pitti | jibel: I reinstalled aptdaemon now, starting software-properties-gtk is enough to trigger it | 07:22 |
| * pitti bumps severity | 07:22 | |
| pitti | jibel: hm, both the current quantal as well as my new package FTBFS for me in the test suite; investigating | 07:27 |
| pitti | didrocks: perhaps you leave later, and still need to wait a bit | 07:29 |
| didrocks | pitti: I'm leaving at 7h35 from Lyon. I can book from Lyon -> Paris -> Madrid, but it's with AF | 07:30 |
| didrocks | so I guess they don't want to ensure the connexion | 07:31 |
| pitti | jibel: fix confirmed locally; waiting for package in my PPA to build | 07:31 |
| seb128 | hey | 08:05 |
| didrocks | salut seb128 | 08:06 |
| didrocks | seb128: meeting report reminder day! | 08:06 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 | 08:06 |
| seb128 | hey didrocks, pitti, ca va bien ? | 08:07 |
| seb128 | didrocks, indeed it is, thanks! | 08:07 |
| didrocks | ça va bien, et toi? | 08:07 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ca va bien! | 08:11 |
| seb128 | pitti, danke for the aptdaemon upload | 08:11 |
| pitti | seb128: de rien; took a bit, I have some trouble with the tests | 08:13 |
| pitti | the current version that's in the archive now fails in the tests | 08:13 |
| seb128 | oh :-( | 08:13 |
| seb128 | RAOF, hey | 08:15 |
| seb128 | RAOF, "Chris Halse Rogers has proposed merging lp:~ubuntu-desktop/lightdm/ubuntu into lp:lightdm." ... somewhat that looks wrong ;-) | 08:16 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, pitti: I'm pondering re-uploading nautilus 3.4 as a nautilus-3.4 source | 08:21 |
| seb128 | or nautilus-with-features | 08:22 |
| seb128 | though that's not really maintainable over time | 08:22 |
| pitti | without the library packages then? i. e. statically linked or private libdir or so? | 08:22 |
| pitti | yeah, I guess we'll just need to swallow it | 08:22 |
| seb128 | sometimes with GNOME it's good to let them one or two cycle to shape up things and get refactoring done | 08:23 |
| seb128 | pitti, well, the library interfaces didn't change yet, so I think we could build the lib from 3.6 and use it in 3.4 | 08:23 |
| pitti | if it's expected to get better, you could also just keep nautilus at 3.4? | 08:23 |
| seb128 | it will get better for some value of better... | 08:24 |
| seb128 | like they replaced typeahead with the dumb search and don't plan to change it back | 08:24 |
| seb128 | or they dropped the compact view which quite some people liked | 08:24 |
| seb128 | well I can make a long list of useful stuff they dropped, and I would not be surprised if they still drop a bunch | 08:25 |
| pitti | :-( | 08:25 |
| seb128 | I think they somewhat lean toward being more a tablet UI than a desktop one | 08:25 |
| seb128 | hum | 08:29 |
| seb128 | rather than bringing back nautilus 3.4 I think we should probably get marlin in | 08:29 |
| chrisccoulson | hey seb128 | 08:35 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, it's a shame about the typeahead. i'm not sure i can live without that yet :( | 08:36 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, hey, how are you? | 08:36 |
| seb128 | their search sucks as well | 08:36 |
| seb128 | the reply from mccann was "we will depends on tracker that should make the search efficient" | 08:37 |
| seb128 | that's for some definition of efficient I guess... | 08:37 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah, i'm not too bad thanks | 08:37 |
| seb128 | hum, tried marlin from https://launchpad.net/~d.filoni/+archive/quantal-builds/+packages | 08:39 |
| seb128 | it's a bit like the old nautilus but doesn't feel as nice and it's lacking u1 integration for example | 08:40 |
| * seb128 uninstall | 08:40 | |
| seb128 | want my old nautilus back! | 08:40 |
| pitti | mc! | 08:40 |
| chrisccoulson | heh, i've not tried marlin for a while | 08:40 |
| pitti | yeah, I really miss typeahead, too | 08:40 |
| chrisccoulson | perhaps i should try and write my own file browser? | 08:40 |
| pitti | almost as much as backspace | 08:40 |
| seb128 | I ctrl-L and type in the url bar as a workaround | 08:41 |
| pitti | well, typing ahead somewhat works, but filtering the whole view instead of just jumping to the file is a bit confusing | 08:41 |
| didrocks | what I don't like is when you copy/cut a file and try to paste it, it files the breadcrumb with the origin url | 08:41 |
| didrocks | instead of pasting/moving the file | 08:41 |
| pitti | ooh, that's what it does? | 08:41 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ok thanks for reminding me, I need to backport that fix | 08:41 |
| pitti | I copied a few music files to my phone yesterday and it got completely messed up | 08:41 |
| * seb128 does | 08:41 | |
| didrocks | seb128: ah? it's not wanted but a bug? :) | 08:41 |
| didrocks | *phew* | 08:42 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 08:42 |
| pitti | I got a ~ 300 pixel high breadcumb bar with very long URIs | 08:42 |
| didrocks | pitti: yeah, I tried 3 times before ensuring that what happened | 08:42 |
| didrocks | I was like "what?" | 08:42 |
| pitti | *phew* indeed! | 08:42 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm starting to feel like spatial mode was good | 08:42 |
| chrisccoulson | ;) | 08:42 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: \o/ | 08:42 |
| mlankhorst | hey | 08:43 |
| didrocks | hey mlankhorst | 08:43 |
| mlankhorst | heya didrocks :) | 08:43 |
| chrisccoulson | hah, https://twitter.com/Queen_UK/status/227680063334805505:) | 08:45 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, the queen is on twitter? srly? | 08:45 |
| seb128 | lol | 08:45 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, it's a parody account ;) | 08:46 |
| chrisccoulson | i follow lots of them | 08:46 |
| chrisccoulson | eg, https://twitter.com/Charles_HRH ;) | 08:46 |
| seb128 | I will do a fake chrisccoulson account :p | 08:46 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 08:46 |
| seb128 | and twitt nice things about chrome! | 08:46 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 08:46 |
| chrisccoulson | haha! | 08:46 |
| chrisccoulson | i'll create a fake seb128 account and tell everyone that you switched to KDE! | 08:47 |
| seb128 | that could go far :p | 08:47 |
| mlankhorst | or Sweetshark switching to microsoft office? | 08:53 |
| didrocks | google docs rather :) | 08:53 |
| lotheac | any lightdm-gtk-greeter devs here? | 08:57 |
| rickspencer3 | lotheac, it seems that robert_ancell is off for the evening, sorry | 08:58 |
| lotheac | I thought he had more to do with lightdm, not so much with the gtk greeter | 08:58 |
| lotheac | thanks though, maybe I'll talk to him later then | 08:59 |
| didrocks | hum, unity-greeter authentification with fingerprint is broken | 09:06 |
| didrocks | fortunately switch back to another user + ctrl + alt + F7 still shows the GNOME screenlocker which works :) | 09:06 |
| RAOF | seb128: Oh, bah. Sorry! | 09:12 |
| * RAOF goes back to dinner. | 09:12 | |
| seb128 | RAOF, no worry ;-) | 09:15 |
| chrisccoulson | huzzah! i have a fix for https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=775143 :0 | 09:27 |
| ubot2 | Mozilla bug 775143 in Extension Compatibility "crash in uGlobalMenu::OnOpen when activating HUD in Ubuntu with Firebug" [Critical,New: ] | 09:27 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, well done! | 09:31 |
| seb128 | pitti, btw did you try to debug the dbus issue with indicators? do you have any hint on how to do that? | 09:43 |
| pitti | seb128: no and no :( | 09:43 |
| pitti | I don't get any error, they just don't appear; but I didn't spend any time on it back then, then had to rush to UDS, and forgot about it afterwards | 09:44 |
| pitti | everythign else worked fine | 09:44 |
| seb128 | pitti, yeah, I tried to debug a bit yesterday with Laney but it's really not obvious what could be happening | 09:47 |
| seb128 | seems to be on the unity side | 09:47 |
| seb128 | the indicator-tools loader display those fine | 09:47 |
| pitti | it didn't even change ABI | 09:48 |
| seb128 | pitti, do you have any hint how to debug? | 09:50 |
| seb128 | dbus is crazy nowadays, too much going on to sit an watch the traffic | 09:50 |
| pitti | seb128: I'm afraid I don't know anything about the innards of indicators, so no :( | 09:50 |
| pitti | seb128: you could start unity/the panel on a private dbus-launch perhaps | 09:50 |
| pitti | and then just watch this | 09:50 |
| pitti | seb128: or use d-feet to see whether the invisible indicators are loaded and whether you can talk to theM? | 09:51 |
| pitti | but of course it's the indicators themselves which are so utterly chatty, so perhaps the better way is to run dbus-monitor with some filters | 09:51 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, that seems complex, I'm trying the other way around and figure when it broke ... 1.5.0 works, 1.5.6 doesn't, let's see if I can find what commit broke it | 09:56 |
| Laney | hey | 09:57 |
| Laney | I tried in a non-unity session and indicators work fine there | 09:57 |
| Laney | using gnome-panel | 09:57 |
| seb128 | yeah, they work fine in the indicator loader binary as well | 09:59 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: no meeting reminder yet? | 11:21 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: if so, can you include the aentos guys in it? | 11:22 |
| Laney | Sweetshark: it was sent via launchpad | 11:24 |
| Laney | check your LP mailbox | 11:24 |
| Sweetshark | Laney: hah! | 11:24 |
| Laney | then fix your filters :P | 11:25 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, what Laney said | 11:48 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| cyphermox | mornin | 12:50 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, hey, how are you? | 12:50 |
| cyphermox | so-so | 12:50 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, time to fix all of my e-mail filters | 12:58 |
| chrisccoulson | i really regret accidentally erasing them during my 2 weeks off | 12:58 |
| didrocks | server-side filtering FTW \o/ | 12:59 |
| didrocks | versionned in bzr :) | 12:59 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| kenvandine | xclaesse, we need tp-mission-control-5 5.13 for libaccounts fixes, right? | 13:24 |
| xclaesse | kenvandine, which libaccounts fixes? | 13:24 |
| xclaesse | kenvandine, it is required for the upcoming empathy release which adds IM service to online accounts | 13:25 |
| kenvandine | alvaro said we needed bumps for webaccounts to work and i see a bug fix for libaccounts in 5.13 | 13:25 |
| kenvandine | ok | 13:25 |
| kenvandine | just making sure we needed to jump to 5.13 | 13:25 |
| xclaesse | yep sure | 13:25 |
| kenvandine | cool | 13:25 |
| xclaesse | just though you meant that libaccounts actually has a dep on MC | 13:25 |
| kenvandine | xclaesse, when do you think we'll have that release? | 13:26 |
| xclaesse | kenvandine, we are smoke testing it atm | 13:26 |
| xclaesse | kenvandine, will be out today | 13:26 |
| kenvandine | awesome | 13:26 |
| kenvandine | thx! | 13:26 |
| Sweetshark | http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=18b15e48cb1fa7590620930975796a0c0dcac225 <- yay for Caolans commit messages. | 13:29 |
| kenvandine | Sweetshark, hehe | 13:33 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, obviously the new hardcoded number is less stupid | 13:34 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: in a way it is: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=117fb70532aeae01327bfe0d828ef8a2d4793b85 | 13:41 |
| chrisccoulson | is anyone else getting display refresh issues in quantal? | 13:41 |
| chrisccoulson | i updated yesterday, just restarted my session and i keep getting corruption all over the screen :/ | 13:41 |
| Sweetshark | the wonders of having multiple languages and runtimes in one project ... | 13:42 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, do you use an xorg ppa or system compositor one? what did you upgrade? when did you upgrade before? | 13:42 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, no xorg PPA or system compositor. i last updated at the start of my 2 weeks off | 13:43 |
| seb128 | oh, fun to figure what changed... | 13:43 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah.... | 13:43 |
| seb128 | is there any compiz or intel driver update in that run? | 13:43 |
| bcurtiswx | mornin' | 13:44 |
| seb128 | hey bcurtiswx, how are you? | 13:45 |
| bcurtiswx | seb128, doing OK, and you? | 13:45 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, i can see a unity update | 13:47 |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx, I'm good thanks | 13:48 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, I see what you are thinking :p | 13:48 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 13:48 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, well, those unity updates are only gsettings path migration ones from distro | 13:48 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, so I doubt it's it | 13:49 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm :/ | 13:49 |
| chrisccoulson | i'll have another look in a bit | 13:49 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, what version did you have before? | 13:49 |
| seb128 | I guess you already had the current upstream version | 13:49 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah, i already had that | 13:49 |
| seb128 | pitti, ping | 13:50 |
| chrisccoulson | it probably doesn't help that my laptop feels like it's melting | 13:50 |
| chrisccoulson | perhaps i'm killing it ;) | 13:50 |
| pitti | hey seb128 | 13:51 |
| seb128 | pitti, hey | 13:51 |
| seb128 | pitti, so, some git bisect later | 13:51 |
| seb128 | pitti, http://cgit.freedesktop.org/dbus/dbus/commit/?id=a940e7b1d1b6b832e2ec732a11f495240156fb31 | 13:51 |
| seb128 | is the commit that breaks indicators,unity it seems | 13:51 |
| seb128 | Laney, ^ fyi | 13:51 |
| seb128 | pitti, I will try to ping Simon about it ... do you have any clue why it could,would break stuff? | 13:52 |
| seb128 | pitti, I don't know enough about dbus to say | 13:52 |
| Laney | sounds like something unity might have to adapt to? | 13:52 |
| seb128 | yeah, I'm pinging the unity guys as well | 13:53 |
| pitti | oh, so perhaps that needs to go into the d-bus config files for the indicators? | 14:00 |
| pitti | err, for the services the indicators try to talk to, that is | 14:00 |
| pitti | I'm not sure what that eavesdropping thing is | 14:00 |
| seb128 | pitti, I will figure it out, thanks | 14:01 |
| Laney | I guess unity was relying on receiving messages intended for the normal indicator applet stuff | 14:01 |
| Laney | because it could just see them by mistake | 14:01 |
| kenvandine | micahg, i proposed merging my chromium-browser.precise branch, we should really get a precise-security update for chromium | 14:10 |
| kenvandine | micahg, for now you can just download the tarball from the quantal package to go with it | 14:10 |
| chrisccoulson | kenvandine, we should get PS to do it ;) | 14:10 |
| kenvandine | but i'll bug alex to propose his branch of translation tools | 14:10 |
| kenvandine | chrisccoulson, they did fix it :) | 14:11 |
| micahg | kenvandine: ok, is the branch ready for upload? | 14:11 |
| kenvandine | chrisccoulson, but i don't want PS uploading to precise-security :) | 14:11 |
| kenvandine | micahg, imo yes... | 14:11 |
| kenvandine | i can upload it if you lick | 14:11 |
| kenvandine | like even :-D | 14:11 |
| kenvandine | i have the tarball and all | 14:12 |
| micahg | kenvandine: no, it needs to be built in the security PPA | 14:12 |
| kenvandine | it's been in the ubuntu-desktop ppa for weeks now | 14:12 |
| micahg | kenvandine: I'll upload it this week | 14:12 |
| kenvandine | great | 14:12 |
| micahg | kenvandine: thanks for your work on this | 14:12 |
| kenvandine | micahg, np | 14:12 |
| xclaesse | kenvandine, voilà, empathy 3.5.4.1 released with the SSO magic | 14:16 |
| kenvandine | WOOT | 14:17 |
| kenvandine | xclaesse, thx | 14:17 |
| kenvandine | i just landed tp-mission-control with libaccounts enabled in the PPA | 14:17 |
| kenvandine | i'll upload empathy there too | 14:17 |
| kenvandine | bcurtiswx, let me get this empathy update... | 14:18 |
| bcurtiswx | kenvandine, but...but.... okay :P | 14:18 |
| kenvandine | :) | 14:18 |
| chrisccoulson | kenvandine, oh, i wasn't suggesting to get PS to handle one upload. i was suggesting handing them the maintenance of browsers in the stable releases in general | 14:19 |
| bcurtiswx | kenvandine, anything special on this update? | 14:19 |
| kenvandine | libaccounts support | 14:19 |
| seb128 | pitti, Laney: ok, good news, reverting that commit on 1.6.4 gives a working dbus including unity, appmenu and indicators | 14:27 |
| Laney | yay, great | 14:28 |
| kenvandine | seb128, sorry... i completely missed that it was a3 | 14:28 |
| seb128 | pitti, Laney: so we have a working workaround and know where to investigate | 14:28 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, no worry ;-) | 14:28 |
| Laney | I'll upload that to proposed later then, and raise a bug on unity to get it fixed hopefully. | 14:29 |
| seb128 | Laney, yeah, I pinged unity people, let's see what comes out from it | 14:29 |
| Laney | rather not be carrying the revert for too long | 14:30 |
| * Laney assigns bug | 14:30 | |
| Laney | shall we get rid of the upstart activation patches? | 14:30 |
| seb128 | Laney, pitti: btw you guys are sure we don't need the upstart patches? | 14:30 |
| seb128 | Laney, heh, I was wondering, I don't know enough about that | 14:31 |
| Laney | I don't /think/ so, and I saw that pitti also said that | 14:31 |
| seb128 | should we check with James? | 14:31 |
| seb128 | (Hunt) | 14:32 |
| Laney | probably would be a good idea | 14:32 |
| seb128 | Laney, can you do that? ;-) | 14:33 |
| seb128 | Laney, thanks | 14:37 |
| Laney | np | 14:37 |
| pitti | seb128: yes; I grepped the entire quantal (including universe), none of the packages use this facility | 14:43 |
| pitti | Laney: ^ FYI | 14:44 |
| Laney | ok | 14:44 |
| Laney | if he wants to keep them for whatever reason i'll know where to assign the porting work :P | 14:44 |
| pitti | indeed :) | 14:45 |
| didrocks | pitti grepped the universe, seems to have been quick :) | 14:48 |
| pitti | it's just 10^78 atoms | 14:49 |
| pitti | (or so) | 14:49 |
| seb128 | Laney, pitti: ok, Simon (dbus upstream) gave me some tips | 14:52 |
| seb128 | <smcv> to be compatible with both you have to call AddMatch() once with it (without errors ignored), and if that fails, try again without it | 14:52 |
| seb128 | <smcv> the patch in Bustle (a D-Bus debugging tool) does that | 14:53 |
| seb128 | so I will have a look to that | 14:53 |
| seb128 | waiting for njpatel to reply first, I don't want to waste time to workaround stuff if they can easily fix it | 14:53 |
| Laney | ok, keep me posted | 15:14 |
| pitti | TTFN | 15:38 |
| pitti | seb128, didrocks: see you tomorrow, safe travels! | 15:38 |
| pitti | didrocks: see you in Madrid already | 15:38 |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks, see you tomorrow, safe travel for you as well! | 15:38 |
| didrocks | pitti: see you tomorrow at Madrid's gate :) | 15:41 |
| seb128 | didrocks, kenvandine, mterry, Sweetshark, tkamppeter, Laney, mlankhorst, cyphermox: the meeting time is in 10 min if you have any topic to add, please update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2012-07-24 (if you didn't do it yet) with what you did as well, thanks | 15:41 |
| seb128 | ups | 15:41 |
| seb128 | it's 10 past meeting time rather ;-) | 15:41 |
| * didrocks was thinking for a second that he went to a black hole :) | 15:42 | |
| seb128 | well anyway if you have any topic it's the moment to speak | 15:42 |
| seb128 | didrocks, I shouldn't copy paste without checking :p | 15:42 |
| kenvandine | hehe | 15:42 |
| didrocks | seb128: ahah, *doh* :) | 15:42 |
| mlankhorst | no but let me share some insight that should be generally applicable: redoing kernel api's suck. :-) | 15:42 |
| kenvandine | i was about to ask if your clock was wrong | 15:42 |
| seb128 | just for info didrocks robert_ancell me and some others are at GUADEC starting tomorrow | 15:42 |
| seb128 | so we might be a bit less online for a week | 15:43 |
| seb128 | feel free to drop emails though if needed or if you need us to bring any topic or get things figured while we are there | 15:43 |
| mlankhorst | oh and double suck if it's kernel api's you're touching. | 15:43 |
| seb128 | mlankhorst, why would anyone ever redo kernel apis? ;-) | 15:44 |
| mlankhorst | it's not inside the kernel yet | 15:44 |
| mlankhorst | oh and if you're a binary driver you probably redo several api's | 15:45 |
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| * ogra_ wonders why gnome-screensaver turns the screen into a bright grey instead of blanking it in todays images | 16:25 | |
| ogra_ | is there a bug open about that ? i see it on all arm images | 16:26 |
| * didrocks waves good evening! Have fun everyone :) | 17:27 | |
| bcurtiswx | kenvandine, can I force a 10.04 install to LTS->LTS upgrade before 12.04.1 ? | 19:04 |
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| bcurtiswx | seb128, ^^ you know either? | 19:05 |
| bcurtiswx | or is it just command line, edit source.list.d for precise and pray? | 19:07 |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx, you can probably run software-properties-gtk, go to "release upgrade" and change the combo to not be lts only | 19:08 |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx, the combo has the bottom has a "when to notify about upgrades" | 19:09 |
| bcurtiswx | seb128, thx | 19:23 |
| jbicha | bcurtiswx: I believe running update-manager -d and have that box set to lts is what you want | 19:35 |
| jbicha | I don't have any computers that old to try it myself | 19:36 |
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| seb128 | Sweetshark, still there? | 20:20 |
| desrt | seb128: see you tomorrow? | 21:05 |
| seb128 | desrt, hope so ;-) | 21:06 |
| seb128 | desrt, I should be there on time for dinner | 21:06 |
| desrt | same, i think | 21:06 |
| * desrt arrives 5pm | 21:06 | |
| seb128 | desrt, lucky you | 21:07 |
| seb128 | desrt, you are in the same plane from Madrid that didrocks pitti and robert_ancell | 21:07 |
| desrt | i heard about robert | 21:08 |
| desrt | didn't know about didrocks and pitti | 21:08 |
| seb128 | Didier told me today | 21:09 |
| seb128 | well I don't complain, I got teuf and larsu on my plane | 21:09 |
| seb128 | we arrive at 19h50 | 21:10 |
| seb128 | so we will be there for the pre-registration party at 21h | 21:10 |
| bcurtiswx | sprint? | 21:46 |
| bcurtiswx | robert_ancell due in soon? | 21:57 |
| jasoncwarner_ | chrisccoulson: still around? | 22:01 |
| chrisccoulson | hi jasoncwarner_. yeah, i'm still around :) | 22:01 |
| jasoncwarner_ | hey chrisccoulson is there something going on with FF right now? I sent you a quick email on it, but it is really, REALLY flaky for me right now | 22:02 |
| chrisccoulson | jasoncwarner_, oh, i think seb128 was investigating general issues with indicators / appmenu / dbus earlier | 22:03 |
| chrisccoulson | it's most probably related | 22:03 |
| jasoncwarner_ | chrisccoulson: ah, ok...thanks. | 22:04 |
| bcurtiswx | kenvandine, still around and not busy? | 22:05 |
| chrisccoulson | jasoncwarner_, oh, actually, it can't be that. that was with the new version of dbus which isn't in the archive yet | 22:06 |
| chrisccoulson | jasoncwarner_, do you have any other addons installed? | 22:06 |
| bcurtiswx | jbicha, got a minute or two? | 22:07 |
| jasoncwarner_ | chrisccoulson: I can't actually tell you if I do b/c I can't use FF...hogs tons of resource and is generally unstable for me at th emoment so I can't really keep it open | 22:07 |
| jasoncwarner_ | I don't think I have any others | 22:07 |
| jasoncwarner_ | though | 22:07 |
| jbicha | bcurtiswx: sure, what's up? | 22:08 |
| bcurtiswx | jbicha, I did a build and i have new symbols generated from dpkg-gensymbols. What needs to be done with those? | 22:09 |
| jbicha | bcurtiswx: they need to be added to the debian/*.symbols file | 22:10 |
| bcurtiswx | jbicha, there's ones that are with the - and others (with the newer version) with the + | 22:10 |
| jbicha | be sure to leave off the part after the hyphen, for instance 3.5.3 instead of 3.5.3-0ubuntu1 | 22:10 |
| jbicha | right, the - are deleted rows and the + are added rows, it's a diff format so you can just patch the diff to the existing symbols file | 22:11 |
| bcurtiswx | nothing has the -0ubuntu1 but instead 3.5.4-1 | 22:11 |
| jbicha | I usually just do it manually, which probably means I do it wrong | 22:11 |
| jbicha | your version number should be -0ubuntu1 unless it's going to Debian first | 22:12 |
| jbicha | but in your symbols file you need to correct it to be just 3.5.4 | 22:12 |
| jbicha | Ubuntu & Debian can't both use 3.5.4-1 as a version number if those packages aren't exactly the same | 22:13 |
| bcurtiswx | ah i see what I did | 22:14 |
| bcurtiswx | but anything in a symbols diff can be patched after removing the -0ubuntu1 after | 22:14 |
| jbicha | yes, you can do patch -p0 < nameofyoursymbols.diff | 22:15 |
| Laney | you should at least skim it to make sure the changes are sane | 22:15 |
| bcurtiswx | Laney, what would make something not-sane ? | 22:15 |
| Laney | mistakes | 22:15 |
| Laney | for example an undeclared compatibility break or a private symbol which accidently becomes visible | 22:16 |
| jbicha | generally, symbol removals should get a soname bump (which I believe is the case for the library you're working on) | 22:17 |
| bcurtiswx | jbicha, it is, seems upstream has a number .. im gonna pastebin the symbols just for questions.. one sec | 22:17 |
| Laney | i'm just saying that you shouldn't blindly apply the patch | 22:17 |
| Laney | usually they will be correct, but not always | 22:17 |
| bcurtiswx | Laney, yup, and i'd like to learn what a bad section would look like so it throws red flags in my head | 22:18 |
| bcurtiswx | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109113 | 22:18 |
| bcurtiswx | you can ignore the 3.5.4-1 im fixing that in the changelog before i build again | 22:19 |
| bcurtiswx | jbicha, Laney any warning signs in that one.. if not know any examples of what one may look like? | 22:21 |
| jbicha | you need to bzr mv debian/libgdl-3-2.symbols to debian/libgdl-3-4.symbols | 22:22 |
| jbicha | you need to change the first line of your original symbols file to libgdl-3.so.4 libgdl-3-4 #MINVER# | 22:23 |
| bcurtiswx | jbicha, to match soname? | 22:23 |
| jbicha | yes | 22:23 |
| jbicha | you also need to bzr mv the *.install file to match the symbols file and update debian/control for your new library name | 22:23 |
| jbicha | after you've done all that and run the install again you won't have as much of a diff | 22:24 |
| jbicha | this example may help: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/libgweather/ubuntu/revision/38 | 22:29 |
| bcurtiswx | jbicha, thx | 22:31 |
| jbicha | you don't have to edit debian/control manually for the pkg-gnome packages | 22:31 |
| jbicha | you can run fakeroot debian/rules clean | 22:31 |
| jbicha | that's mentioned at http://pkg-gnome.alioth.debian.org/packaging.html | 22:31 |
| jbicha | most of the rest of that page is specific to the Debian svn though | 22:32 |
| jbicha | but you do edit the debian/control.in | 22:32 |
| bcurtiswx | jbicha, yup i saw that :) thx | 22:33 |
| chrisccoulson | jasoncwarner_, oh, you can figure out if you have any other addons installed by reporting a bug :) (ubuntu-bug firefox) | 22:40 |
| chrisccoulson | it will attach that, along with preferences and lots of other helpful data ;) | 22:40 |
| jasoncwarner_ | chrisccoulson: thanks...will do that. FYI...def *seems* menu related. Menus froze firefox, killed firefox, menus still there. had to hard reboot | 22:48 |
| chrisccoulson | jasoncwarner_, does it get better if you kill hud-service before starting it? | 22:48 |
| chrisccoulson | i'll bet money that it does ;) | 22:48 |
| jasoncwarner_ | chrisccoulson: I'll try that next time... | 22:48 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 22:49 |
| bcurtiswx | is robert_ancell usually in about now? or is he USA time ? | 22:49 |
| jasoncwarner_ | bcurtiswx: he should be travelling to GUADEC so I doubt you'll see him online anytime soon | 22:52 |
| bcurtiswx | jasoncwarner_, thx | 22:52 |
| jasoncwarner_ | bryceh TheMuso RAOF https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2012-07-24 please update and add agenda items, if any. | 22:53 |
| jasoncwarner_ | (we never seem to have agenda items ;) ) | 22:54 |
| jbicha | robert lives in New Zealand | 22:54 |
| bcurtiswx | jbicha, ah that time zone.. it's like 12 hours diff almost IIRC | 22:58 |
| TheMuso | jasoncwarner_: And at least from me, I have none. | 23:03 |
| jasoncwarner_ | thanks TheMuso | 23:03 |
| RAOF | Also none from me. | 23:04 |
| bryceh | none here either | 23:07 |
| bcurtiswx | anyone wants: https://code.launchpad.net/~bcurtiswx/ubuntu/quantal/gdl/3.5.4-0ubuntu1/+merge/116567 | 23:10 |
| bcurtiswx | and also: https://code.launchpad.net/~bcurtiswx/ubuntu/quantal/gvfs/1.13.3-0ubuntu1/+merge/116046 | 23:11 |
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