[15:59] <zul> so i guess i have the fortune of running this meeting today
[16:00] <m_3> whoohoo
[16:00] <arosales> :-)
[16:00] <zul> yay
[16:00] <zul> #startmeeting
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[16:00] <zul> so welcome to the server team meeting
[16:00] <zul> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:00] <jamespage> o/
[16:01] <zul> there are two from last meeting
[16:01] <zul> arosales and daviey to work on trend line reset * everyone update their blueprint status
[16:01] <arosales> zul: in progress
[16:01] <zul> so first point: arosales and daviey to work on trend line reset
[16:01] <zul> okies
[16:01] <zul> and everybody should be updating their blueprints
[16:01] <arosales> I haven't got the trend line reset, but working on getting the right level for topics
[16:01] <zul> so next
[16:01] <smoser> o/
[16:01] <zul> #topic Quantal Development
[16:02] <zul> arosales/Daviey: ^^^
[16:02] <arosales> I have a few blueprint items to go over
[16:02] <arosales> We are on week 13/25 (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule) approaching the halfway mark and A3 this Thursday.
[16:03] <arosales> half way, shocked me too
[16:03] <zul> it goes by quick
[16:03] <arosales> so we still have a few blueprints that are at 0% or near that
[16:03] <arosales> given some work happens rapidly at the end I wanted to still touch base on a couple of those
[16:04] <arosales> for the ARM ones @ 0% as rbasak is out I pined cmagina
[16:04] <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-server-benchmark-and-performance
[16:04] <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-arm-server-storage-testing
[16:04] <arosales> Juju related
[16:04] <arosales> SpamapS, m_3: any work items in progress here besides jitsu watch?
[16:04] <arosales> for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charm-unit-tests
[16:05] <arosales> I don't think SpamapS is here atm, so may have to lean on m_3
[16:05] <m_3> arosales: not yet no... maybe making charmtester work for other providers counts here
[16:05] <arosales> and have some logs for Spamaps to catch up on
[16:05] <m_3> but not specifically tested against arm yet
[16:06] <arosales> m_3:  ok thanks
[16:06] <arosales> m_3: SpamapS:  work items for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy are mostly around post discussion. Is this a mailing list discussion, or something else?
[16:07] <m_3> arosales: it's probably a "make the change and then deal with the fallout" item.. I _think_ this is on track with milestone freezes
[16:07] <arosales> m_3:  for unit testing that may be applicable against different providers
[16:07] <arosales> m_3:  ok thanks.
[16:07] <arosales> and one more juju related bp
[16:07] <arosales> m_3: any updates on charm best practices progress, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charm-best-practices
[16:08] <arosales> Ursinha: any updates on reports for bug triage process for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-bug-triage-review
[16:08] <m_3> arosales: more jitsu to add to best practices :)
[16:09] <arosales> m_3:  lots of todos for that one still
[16:09] <arosales> may need to ping jcastro nad possible hazmat
[16:09] <arosales> smoser and utlemming: any update on cloud-utils https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-cloud-init-utils
[16:09] <m_3> arosales: I'll take a look and update this week
[16:10] <arosales> m_3: thanks, be good to get a better grasp on the juju related items for this cycle.
[16:10] <smoser> not a lot of updates there.
[16:10] <arosales> smoser and utlemming: any update on cloud-utils https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-cloud-init-utils
[16:10] <arosales> sorry, duplicate
[16:10] <arosales> smoser since rbasak is out I think he was trying to set up a proof of concept for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-apt-improvements any other updates?
[16:11] <smoser> arosales, he has spent time on that.
[16:11] <smoser> and its in reasonable shape.
[16:11] <smoser> i'm not sure of tatus byhond that. other than we have the general plan laid out and even mostly agreed to
[16:11] <arosales> ok, I think rbasak was working on testing the prof of concept and getting feedback into the bug.
[16:11] <arosales> will catch up on that with rbasak returns
[16:12] <arosales> utlemming: are the RT tickets for the provisioning complete for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-push-to-the-clouds
[16:12] <utlemming> arosales: more or less...I'm going full steam on the new build server now
[16:12] <utlemming> arosales: I am still waiting on the public Jenkins instance for pushing results out.
[16:13] <arosales> utlemming: ok, thanks
[16:13] <arosales> I'll follow up with Ursinha`about reports for bug triage. I think were were targeting A3 for that to be complete.
[16:13] <jamespage> utlemming, presumably thats not blocking this work tho?
[16:13] <utlemming> jamespage: no...its not
[16:13] <jamespage> arosales, yes - but that was a nominal date I chose.
[16:14] <arosales> jamespage: gotcha, we can probably slip that a bit. I know Ursinha` has been doing a lot of work on her gravity reports
[16:14] <arosales> zul: onto bugs?
[16:14] <jamespage> arosales, which probably add more long term value anyway...
[16:15] <arosales> yup
[16:15] <zul> arosales: ye
[16:15] <arosales> bug 1014005
[16:15] <arosales> wishlist still it looks like
[16:15] <arosales> bug 1023066
[16:16] <zul> arosales: ill fixe that up
[16:16] <arosales> adam_g: targeting A3?
[16:16] <arosales> zul: thanks
[16:16] <arosales> another quantum bug 1025203
[16:16] <zul> another one for me i guess
[16:17] <arosales> zul: thanks again :-)
[16:17] <arosales> zul: another quantum
[16:17] <arosales> j/k
[16:17] <arosales> cobbler
[16:17] <arosales> :-)
[16:17] <zul> stop picking on me! :)
[16:17] <arosales> bug 858867
[16:17] <jamespage> o/
[16:18] <jamespage> I second smoser's opinion on this bug
[16:18] <jamespage> its never going to be fixed - so please can we just 'Won't Fix' it
[16:18] <jamespage> upstream don't think its a bug
[16:18] <jamespage> any opinions?
[16:18] <arosales> jamespage: any other place we should document this besides the bug?
[16:19] <zul> README.Debian perhaps
[16:19] <jamespage> I don't think so
[16:19] <jamespage> zul, a warning sort of statement?
[16:19] <zul> jamespage: yeah
[16:19] <jamespage> zul, I guess that makes sense
[16:20] <zul> jamespage: one liner is good enough
[16:20] <jamespage> roaksoax, would you be OK todo that for quantal?
[16:20] <jamespage> we don't need to fix in released version IMHO
[16:20] <roaksoax> jamespage: +1
[16:20] <jamespage> roaksoax, ta
[16:20] <arosales> roaksoax: thanks
[16:21] <zul> anything else?
[16:21] <arosales> back to picking on zul
[16:21] <arosales> bug 1020313
[16:21] <zul> yeah still on my radar
[16:21] <arosales> thanks
[16:21] <arosales> and lastly
[16:21] <arosales> bug 844995
[16:22] <zul> i should probably care about that one
[16:22] <zul> arosales: anything else?
[16:23] <arosales> thats it for http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html
[16:23] <arosales> couchdb may need for us to keep an eye out
[16:23] <zul> okies
[16:23] <arosales> zul and two FTBFS
[16:23] <arosales> bug https://launchpad.net/bugs/1017113
[16:23] <arosales> and bug https://launchpad.net/bugs/935516
[16:24] <zul> in precise?
[16:24] <Daviey> blocked on upstream
[16:24] <arosales> yes, it appears so
[16:25] <arosales> m_3:  and you follow up with hazmat on bug 1017113?
[16:25] <arosales> zul, ok  back to you
[16:25] <m_3> arosales: sure
[16:25] <zul> #topic 12.04.1 Development (jamespage & smoser)
[16:25] <arosales> m_3:  thanks
[16:26] <zul> jamespage/smoser: you are up
[16:26] <jamespage> zul, ta
[16:27] <jamespage> broadley good; lets focus on a few stuck bugs for 12.04.1
[16:27] <jamespage> bug 920197
[16:27] <jamespage> zul: any progress on this one?
[16:27] <zul> arrrgh
[16:27] <jamespage> as you are waiting for NEW queue reviews :-)
[16:27] <zul> will do so right after the meeting
[16:27] <jamespage> ta
[16:27] <zul> or meetings
[16:28] <jamespage> bug 1006898
[16:28]  * jamespage kicks zul again
[16:29] <zul> *sigh*
[16:29] <jamespage> but he's not had it for long
[16:29] <jamespage> bug 966577 and bug 1006553
[16:29] <adam_g>  /win 9
[16:30] <jamespage> hmm - no SpamapS - will catch him later
[16:30] <jamespage> and finally bug 1014872
[16:30] <jamespage> which really needs a volunteer to investigate and resolve
[16:30] <jamespage> anyone?
[16:31] <jamespage> ...
[16:31]  * jamespage will find someone
[16:31] <jamespage> other than that everything else assigned to individuals on the in-flight list is either pending acceptance into -proposed
[16:32] <jamespage> or pending verification - please do feel free to verify something if you have the time.
[16:32] <jamespage> other than any questions thats me done....
[16:32] <zul> okies
[16:32] <adam_g> jamespage: not sure how to get it in your radar, but Bug #1025544  currently blocks nova folsom on P.
[16:32] <arosales> jamespage: then not too shabby then for 12.04.1
[16:32] <adam_g> jamespage: just got the SRU proposed yesterday, so..
[16:33] <jamespage> adam_g, great - we probably should add that to the server package list
[16:33] <jamespage> I'll do that
[16:33] <zul> anything else?
[16:33] <zul> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:33] <zul> any events coming up?
[16:33] <arosales> OSCON went well :-)  next on the list is CloudOpen 29-31 August, spamaps there.
[16:34] <zul> uds coming up soon :)
[16:34] <m_3> cool videos of the cloud migration coming soon
[16:34] <zul> it will be here soon enough
[16:34] <jamespage> Openstack Meetup in London tomorrow - Daviey and I will be there
[16:34] <arosales> m_3: are you still attending RubyConf?
[16:34] <m_3> texas linux fest next week
[16:34] <m_3> arosales: not planned atm... texas linuxfest, and then puppetconf if my talk gets greenlighted
[16:35] <arosales> m_3: ok. I see that is Nov 1-3 too
[16:35] <m_3> yeah, it overlapped with something more important iirc
[16:35]  * arosales updates the juju events wiki page
[16:35] <zul> m_3: traveling salesman
[16:35] <m_3> I know
[16:35] <m_3> totally
[16:35] <zul> with the bibles or knives
[16:36] <arosales> juju, so both
[16:36] <m_3> traveling "bite my nails because mark likes to do live demos" guy
[16:36] <zul> lol
[16:36] <zul> anytthing else?
[16:36] <zul> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
[16:36] <zul> hi hggdh or random qa person
[16:37] <zul> anything qa relevant
[16:37] <zul> iso should be testing...ah that brings me back
[16:37] <zul> if not
[16:37] <zul> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
[16:38] <zul> hi smb
[16:38] <smb> hia
[16:38] <smb> I attended the kernel-team spring in Portland last week. Apart from a, err, minor panic situation for Oneric 32bit cloud-images, I was persuading to fix the Xen package for Precise. The crash kernel issues are now at least understood (big initrd and wasting memory in any way is not well taken). Hopefully the kernel-part for Qunatal will make progress upstream. Otherwise, are there questions?
[16:38] <smb> ..
[16:39] <zul> any other questions?
[16:39] <utlemming> for the panic situation
[16:39] <utlemming> the good news is that both QA and Ubuntu Server are now tracking -proposed in automated testing to make sure we don't have to panic in the future.
[16:39] <zul> cool beans
[16:40] <arosales> utlemming: nice \o/
[16:40] <utlemming> for those interested, we have an incident report at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IncidentReports/2012-07-19-oneiric-kernel-regression-kills-EC2-instances
[16:40] <zul> yay xen!
[16:40] <zul> i love it
[16:41] <smb> Always a source of joy... :)
[16:41] <zul> and male pattern baldness
[16:41] <zul> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)
[16:41] <zul> can we skip this part since rbasak is on holiday
[16:41] <zul> or does anyone have any arm related stuff?
[16:42] <zul> if you want to try arm images on openstack you can do so through trystack.org now
[16:42] <jamespage> that works quite well - alot faster than my pandaboard
[16:42] <zul> i should hope so
[16:43] <zul> #topic Open Discussion
[16:43] <zul> anything people want to talk about
[16:43] <zul> if not
[16:43] <arosales> Call for testing
[16:44] <arosales> server on A3
[16:44] <jamespage> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2012-July/006359.html
[16:44] <arosales> jamespage: ah, thank you
[16:45] <arosales> zul: seems like we can wrap it up then
[16:45] <zul> #topic Announce next meeting date and time
[16:46] <zul> same bat channel same bat place
[16:46] <zul> #endmeeting
[16:46] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jul 24 16:46:04 2012 UTC.
[16:46] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-07-24-16.00.moin.txt
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[16:46] <arosales> thanks for chair'ing zul
[16:47] <jamespage> \o/
[16:49] <Daviey> super
[17:02] <ogasawara> #startmeeting
[17:02] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jul 24 17:02:56 2012 UTC.  The chair is ogasawara. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[17:03] <ogasawara> ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting. ##
[17:03] <ogasawara> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting
[17:03] <ogasawara> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Quantal
[17:03] <ogasawara> # Meeting Etiquette
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[17:03] <ogasawara> Roll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting
[17:03] <cking> o/
[17:03] <ppisati> o/
[17:03] <herton> o/
[17:03] <arges> o/
[17:03] <henrix> o/
[17:03] <bjf> o/
[17:03] <smb> \o
[17:03] <sforshee> o/
[17:03] <rtg> o/
[17:03] <ogasawara> [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)
[17:03] <ppisati> Q/omap4: porting of the tilt-3.4 TI branch [1] on top of our 3.5 master kernel continues.
[17:03] <ppisati> So far i handled 515 out of ~1700 patches: 459 were applied, 15 were left for later consideration and 50 were already found upstream.
[17:03] <ppisati> To see the resulting kernel, go here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ppisati/ubuntu-quantal.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/ti-omap4-tilt-34-on-35
[17:03] <ppisati> [1]: http://git.linaro.org/gitweb?p=people/andygreen/kernel-tilt.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/tilt-3.4
[17:03] <ppisati> ..
[17:04] <ogasawara> rsalveti: ^^ just fyi
[17:04] <ogasawara> [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalusbury)
[17:04] <ogasawara> Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:
[17:04] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt
[17:04] <ogasawara> ..
[17:04] <ogasawara> [TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara)
[17:04] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/canonical-kernel-distro-team-quantal-alpha-3.html
[17:04] <ogasawara> || apw         || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 3 work item  ||
[17:04] <ogasawara> ||             || hardware-q-kernel-delta-review  || 3 work items ||
[17:04] <ogasawara> ||             || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 4 work items ||
[17:04] <ogasawara> ||             || hardware-q-kernel-versions-and-flavors || 1 work item ||
[17:04] <rsalveti> ogasawara: thanks
[17:04] <ogasawara> || bjf         || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 1 work item  ||
[17:04] <ogasawara> || cking       || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 1 work item  ||
[17:04] <ogasawara> || cooloney    || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 1 work item  ||
[17:04] <ogasawara> || jjohansen   || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 1 work item  ||
[17:04] <ogasawara> || ogasawara   || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 3 work items ||
[17:04] <ogasawara> || tgardner    || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 1 work item  ||
[17:04] <ogasawara> ||             || hardware-q-kernel-delta-review  || 1 work item ||
[17:04] <ogasawara> If your name is in the above table, please review your Alpha-3 work items.
[17:04] <ogasawara> ..
[17:04] <ogasawara> [TOPIC] Status: Quantal Development Kernel (ogasawara)
[17:04] <ogasawara> We have recently rebased the Quantal kernel to the latest v3.5 final
[17:05] <ogasawara> upstream kernel and have uploaded.  This has also been uploaded to the
[17:05] <ogasawara> q-lts-backport [1] PPA to help facilitate testing of the 12.10 kernel
[17:05] <ogasawara> in 12.04.  We welcome any early adopters to please install, test, and
[17:05] <ogasawara> let us know your feedback.
[17:05] <ogasawara> [1] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/q-lts-backport
[17:05] <ogasawara> Important upcoming dates:
[17:05] <ogasawara>  * Thurs July 26 - Alpha 3 (~2 days)
[17:05] <ogasawara> ..
[17:05] <ogasawara> [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (bjf)
[17:05] <sconklin> == 2012-07-24 (weekly) ==
[17:05] <sconklin> Currently we have 95 CVEs on our radar, with two CVEs retired this week.
[17:05] <sconklin> See the CVE matrix for the current list:
[17:05] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html
[17:05] <sconklin> Overall the backlog has decreased slightly this week:
[17:05] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt
[17:05] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt
[17:05] <sconklin> ..
[17:06] <ogasawara> [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Precise/Oneiric/Natty/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton/henrix)
[17:06] <henrix> Here is the status for the main kernels, until today (July 24):
[17:06] <henrix>  * Hardy - Nothing in this cycle
[17:06] <henrix>  * Lucid - In Preparation; 2 CVEs; (16 commits)
[17:06] <henrix>  * Natty - In Preparation; 2 CVEs; (5 commits)
[17:06] <henrix>  * Oneiric - In Preparation; 2 CVEs; 2 upstream stable release(s); (101 commits)
[17:06] <henrix>  * Precise - In Preparation; 3 CVEs; 2 upstream stable release(s); (105 commits)
[17:06] <henrix> Current opened tracking bugs details:
[17:06] <henrix>  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html
[17:07] <henrix> For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:
[17:07] <henrix>  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html
[17:07] <henrix> Future stable cadence cycles:
[17:07] <henrix>  * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseInterlock
[17:07] <henrix> The week of Sept. 6 is the week the last Natty kernel will be built.
[17:07] <henrix> ..
[17:07] <ogasawara> [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)
[17:07] <ogasawara> #endmeeting
[17:07] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jul 24 17:07:43 2012 UTC.
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