[02:20] <em> Are you all getting excited for the Olympics
[02:21] <Azelphur> I'm sure everybody is dreaming about it (it's 3:20am) :P
[06:18] <christel> gooooooood morning!
[06:59] <diplo> Morning all
[07:22]  * MartijnVdS cycled to work today
[07:22] <MartijnVdS> Almost 2 hours 8-)
[07:22] <diplo> Is it far, as I suppose you don't have the issue of hills
[07:22] <diplo> :P
[07:27] <christel> nice, i think i'd melt if i tried cycle anywhere today
[07:27] <christel> it is SO HOT!
[07:39] <christel> any of you guys in york by any chance?
[07:47] <christel> morning TheOpenSourcerer \o/
[07:56] <TheOpenSourcerer> morning christel et al.
[07:56] <christel> how are you this wonderfully fine morning? :)
[07:56] <TheOpenSourcerer> wonderfully fine thank you :-) And you?
[07:57] <christel> very very well! enjoying the sunshine and attempting to convince Myrtti to go to a party up north on my (freenodes) behalf!
[08:06] <christel> popey \o, pancro o/
[08:06] <MartijnVdS> diplo: it's just over 32km
[08:07] <MartijnVdS> christel: it's not quite so hot when it's 6:45am  ;)
[08:07] <christel> ah that might be true! hehe
[08:07] <pancro> hey christel
[08:13] <Twinkletoes> Good morning!
[08:14] <Twinkletoes> There seem to be loads of ftp/sftp servers in the repos.  Apart from proftpd, what do people here generally use (or like)?
[08:15] <JamesTait> Good morning all! :)
[08:15] <christel> moooooooooooooorning JamesTait \o/
[08:16] <JamesTait> Hey christel. :) How's you?
[08:17] <diplo> Twinkletoes: I only use SFTP now, part of openssh-server
[08:17] <christel> JamesTait: incredibulous! :D
[08:17] <christel> i am loving this whole SUN thing
[08:17] <christel> how are you wonderful? :)
[08:18] <JamesTait> It's wonderful, isn't it?  I'm very well, thank you. :)
[08:20] <JamesTait> I've managed to finally get around to spraying the sills on my car, which were down to bare metal and starting to rust.  It's amazing what a couple of days of sunshine can do. :)
[08:21] <christel> :D
[08:22] <christel> hehe
[08:23] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:24] <christel> GOOD MORNING BIGCALM
[08:24] <Twinkletoes> diplo: Thanks :)
[08:24] <bigcalm> Yikes
[08:24] <bigcalm> Good morning Madam CAPSLOCK
[08:24] <Twinkletoes> Stop shouting in here, we're all still half-asleep!
[08:24]  * Twinkletoes yawns
[08:25] <bigcalm> Eep, forgot to put out the recycling!
[08:25] <christel> Twinkletoes: time to WAKE UP!
[08:25] <christel> :D
[08:25] <christel> i should put some more clothes on before people come to Go To Church
[08:25] <Twinkletoes> uh... uh?
[08:25] <Twinkletoes> :)
[08:26]  * JamesTait blushes
[08:27] <christel> Twinkletoes: :D
[08:32] <bigcalm> christel: why the need for clothes if you're not the one going to church?
[08:32] <bigcalm> And even if you were, are they really that necessary?
[08:32] <christel> well, i sort of feel it would be inappropriate to be sunbathing topless outside the church!
[08:33] <christel> even the virgin mary is wearing clothes today
[08:33] <bigcalm> Fair enough :)
[08:33]  * directhex moos
[08:35] <KungFuPanda> morning guys
[08:36] <KungFuPanda> what is the command to open a bookmark folder in file browser ?
[08:37] <diplo> Different per browser I guess, can't say i use it that often, used to be Ctrl B i think
[08:37] <KungFuPanda> like, what is the command to open my home folder in file browser, ubuntu default file browser
[08:37] <diplo> Oh file browser :)
[08:37] <KungFuPanda> ye, file browser,
[08:38] <diplo> nautilus
[08:38] <KungFuPanda> I just want to program one of my function key to do that, but I do not know the command
[08:38] <diplo> ^^
[08:39] <KungFuPanda> can I give a diffrent folder path as params ?
[08:40] <KungFuPanda> found it
[08:40] <KungFuPanda> thx
[08:42] <diplo> Sorry was on my other screen, but yes you can :)
[08:57] <daubers> Urgh... works getting complicated again. Might need some project management books soon :(
[09:01] <diplo> Tell me if you find any good ones daubers
[09:01] <diplo> Going to have to buy my own so would rather go on a recommendation
[09:14] <bigcalm> Too warm again
[09:14] <bigcalm> Silly English summer
[09:14] <bigcalm> It's the humidity
[09:14] <diplo> Silly english people complaining :D
[09:14] <bigcalm> Ha
[09:14] <diplo> I'll take it however it comes tbh
[09:15] <bigcalm> I prefer anything but summer
[09:15] <diplo> It defo is not as nice as abroad, but it's got to be better than that rain
[09:15] <christel> it isnt that warm silly!
[09:15] <christel> it is LOVELY
[09:15] <christel> could be a tad warmer mind
[09:15] <bigcalm> I don't mind the warmth so much, it is the humidity that saps my energy
[09:16] <christel> mmmsticky!
[09:16] <christel> ;)
[09:16] <mattt> humid?
[09:16] <christel> i have decided that today is a Holiday
[09:16] <mattt> it's not humid today :-/
[09:16] <bigcalm> \o/
[09:16] <christel> so i am pondering cocktails
[09:16]  * mattt would rather be fishing
[09:17] <bigcalm> christel: tall stories told by chickens?
[09:17] <christel> i am going fishing next week :D
[09:17] <christel> on the norwegian coooooast \o/
[09:17] <mattt> christel: where bouts?
[09:17] <mattt> aww, lucky
[09:17] <christel> mmm :)
[09:17]  * mattt is going to weymouth to fish on saturday
[09:18] <christel> http://i.imgur.com/SBRex.jpg i shall be *there* enjoying the midnight sun and the calm sea!
[09:19] <mattt> oh wow
[09:20] <christel> and this shall be the view i see from my window, every day: http://i.imgur.com/KEaGK.jpg :D
[09:21] <mattt> christel: i don't like you right now
[09:21] <christel> haha
[09:21]  * czajkowski tickles christel 
[09:21] <christel> you can come with me! we've got pleeenty of space :D
[09:25]  * christel huggles czajkowski the cute <3
[09:25] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[09:25] <christel> hullu brobostigon \o/
[09:25] <brobostigon> hello christel :)
[09:28] <christel> mattt: i grew up in the skinny part of norway, so going home means being superclose to both the coast and the mountains (and only half an hour drive from the arctic circle and from the swedish border respectively) -- tons of nice nature -- and since my parents divorced it means "several homes" to visit at various pretty places (they both have summer houses on the coast, my mum in a small island a couple of hours drive from "home" ...
[09:28] <christel> ... and my dad on a peninsular about 4-5 hours further north.. and two "winter cabins" for skiing etc, one at the arctic circle, another one in the middle of the mountains, can only be access on skis or snowmobiles during winter)
[09:29] <christel> going home is complete and utter bliss :)
[09:29] <Seeker`> wow, sounds great
[09:30] <christel> definitely gives me a chance to recharge the batteries :)
[09:30] <Seeker`> can I come?
[09:30] <christel> yes!
[09:31] <Seeker`> ok. Just need to convince my boss now.
[09:31] <mattt> christel: yeah, norway is beautiful ... i rented a cottage w/ my wife and her family somewhere in the south a good few years back
[09:31] <mattt> now to remember where that was
[09:33] <christel> :D
[09:33] <mattt> so you were born in norway?
[09:33] <christel> i was yeah :)
[09:34] <mattt> oooh
[09:34] <christel> moved here.. gosh, it'll be 14 years in november
[09:34] <christel> all my family are still back in norway though :)
[09:34] <bigcalm> What drew you to this dump?
[09:34] <mattt> bigcalm: hey now
[09:34] <bigcalm> I mean England
[09:34] <christel> bigcalm: duh, the weather and the ample space...
[09:35] <christel> HARR HARR HARR
[09:35] <bigcalm> Hehe, weird :P
[09:35] <christel> that comment may make more sense when you see http://i.imgur.com/JVJzt.jpg
[09:35] <christel> which is behind the house i grew up in
[09:35] <gord> friend of mine in norway is complaining about how its 8 degrees and raining, he may have the northern lights and beautiful scenery, but for a few days i can feel smug at last
[09:35] <christel> my current garden doth not compare!
[09:36] <czajkowski> gord: lol!
[09:37] <christel> gord: hehe
[09:37] <mattt> bigcalm: that's a fair comment about weather actually
[09:37] <mattt> i grew up in canada, weather ranges from -30 to +30
[09:37] <mattt> weather here is great :)
[09:37] <mattt> tho that rainy spell we had since april was kinda funky
[09:38] <christel> yeah, same back home -- proper seasons
[09:38] <christel> cold winters, warm summers..
[09:38] <christel> when i first moved here (admittedly i moved to yorkshire, it was grim up north etc) i called my mum once, in tears, because it had been autumn for 18 months...
[09:39] <bigcalm> LOL
[09:39] <directhex> oh, foolish christel
[09:39] <directhex> you get all 4 seasons in 1 day!
[09:39] <christel> hahaha
[09:40] <directhex> bright sunshine, hail, gale-force winds, driving rain, drizzle and misery, all in one day
[09:40] <directhex> sometimes all at once
[09:40] <directhex> we have all the weather at once!
[09:40] <christel> very true!
[09:44] <christel> sometimes i think that i want to move back home
[09:44] <christel> because it is pretty
[09:45] <christel> but then i remember that it is about 7 quid a pint
[09:45] <bigcalm> You'd keep the economy afloat
[09:46] <christel> oh, 7.80 in some places it seems!
[09:46] <mattt> yeah, it's beautiful
[09:46] <christel> haha
[09:46] <mattt> but the food there ... ugh
[09:46] <christel> yeah, it is very pretty
[09:46] <christel> gasp, you didnt like norwegian food?!
[09:46] <mattt> no spice!
[09:47] <mattt> christel: to be honest, we didn't eat a single meal out there ... but i didn't see much variety in restaurants we drove by
[09:47] <christel> i dunno what sort of stuff restaurants etc sell tbh
[09:47] <mattt> maybe next time i go i'll try me some whale
[09:47] <AlanBell> http://www.startrek.com/article/patrick-stewart-carries-olympic-torch yay!
[09:47] <christel> whale is gorgeous :)
[09:47] <christel> i am in love with patrick stewart :(
[09:48] <christel> i told my mum i wanted moose the day i arrive
[09:48] <christel> \o/
[09:48] <directhex> who isn't?
[09:48] <AlanBell> think I want to be patrick stewart when I grow up
[09:48] <christel> patrick stewart was at my graduation \o/
[09:48] <bigcalm> Blimey
[09:48] <christel> bigcalm: not for me, mainly because he is the chancellor of the university where i did my bsc :(
[09:49] <christel> but i like pretending that it was because he LOVED me as much as i love him!
[09:50] <christel> but yes, he is the most attractive man on the planet without a doubt
[09:51] <christel> he could talk at me all the time and i'd just tingle with excitement :D
[09:52] <bigcalm> :)
[09:52] <christel> bigcalm: you probably think i jest about my patrick stewart obsession.. i dont.. i went so far as to deliberately move to mirfield whilst studying at huddersfield simply because that was where he grew up! :S
[09:52] <christel> god, that is so sad
[09:52] <christel> :D
[09:53]  * bigcalm pats christel 
[09:53] <bigcalm> christel: you're so adorable ;)
[09:54] <christel> hahaha
[09:54] <christel> what, when i turn into a raving mad psycho stalker? :D
[09:54] <mattt> i saw him in a play in london w/ one of the guys from the american show dawson's creek
[09:54] <mattt> it was hilarious
[09:55] <christel> bigcalm: sadly, i also stalked the only other famous person i've had (oh i still do) a crush on
[09:55]  * christel nods
[09:55] <christel> mattt: :D
[09:56] <bigcalm> I saw him and Sir Ian McKellen at a local theatre performing Waiting for Godot
[09:56] <christel> bigcalm: my most favourite band in the entire world ever is bad religion.. and i totally fancy their singer..
[09:56] <christel> who also lecture at the UCLA
[09:56] <christel> which made it oh too easy to contact him :s
[09:56] <bigcalm> :|
[09:56] <christel> see, i am such a stalker :D
[09:57] <christel> (he is lovely though.. and once signed my boobs so i shant complain too much)
[09:57] <christel> i was young and convinced i'd never ever ever ever wash them ever again!
[09:57] <mattt> i think that was my cue to get back to work
[09:57] <mattt> :)
[09:57]  * mattt is afk
[10:01] <bigcalm> I wonder if I'll be at all productive this week after having a week off
[10:01] <bigcalm> Getting back into is proving rather tricky
[10:02] <christel> hehe yeah, it's always hard to pick up momentum again after a lazy week!
[10:04] <JamesTait> Or even just a lazy weekend, sometimes.
[10:04] <christel> yeah, very true!
[10:04] <christel> i am failing at being productive this week so i have decided to just give up and consider it holiday! :s
[10:05] <christel> my clients are so far failing to understand this so i might have to do some work :(
[10:05] <davmor2> Morning all
[10:05] <christel> hullu davmor2 \o/
[10:05] <davmor2> christel: get to work, NOW! ;)  Hello :)
[10:06] <davmor2> czajkowski: Prod!
[10:06] <JamesTait> I have so far spent this week mostly in fire-fighting mode.  I have yet to actually get back to work on what I planned to be working on.
[10:06] <bigcalm> Morning davmor2
[10:06] <JamesTait> davmor2: o/
[10:06] <davmor2> hey bigcalm JamesTait
[10:06] <christel> hehe but but but!
[10:08] <davmor2> christel: Man you took the whole being on holiday serious, get off that boat and get back to work, I can hear the engine but, but, butting in that background :)
[10:09] <christel> ;)
[10:21] <bigcalm> A sign that summer has arrived - freckles are appearing on my hands
[10:21] <bigcalm> Or is that very patchy dirt?
[10:22] <christel> i have a freckled nose :(
[10:22] <JamesTait> Aw, cute. :-P
[10:22] <christel> no :(
[10:22]  * JamesTait disappears back into the shadows
[10:22] <christel> i have a massive (ok, it's quite tiny) hangup about freckles
[10:23] <christel> :P
[10:23] <christel> my brother always told me i looked like i'd been wearing a pasta strainer over my face!
[10:23] <brobostigon> :(
[10:23] <christel> he is very mean
[10:24] <brobostigon> :(
[10:24] <christel> he once tried to get rid of me by leaving the pram with me in it outside the gates to the local recycling plant/tip
[10:24] <christel> :(
[10:24] <brobostigon> :(
[10:24] <christel> (i was very little and cant remember this, but the story has often been retold)
[10:25] <bigcalm> :(
[10:25] <davmor2> christel: but that's a brothers Job, there are 2 rules, You're evil to your siblings but if anyone hurts them you pound them into the dirt
[10:25] <christel> hehe
[10:26] <christel> he was very mean
[10:26] <JamesTait> davmor2: You just summed up my childhood right there.
[10:26] <christel> once he picked me up (i was asleep) and chucked me out of the window into the snow
[10:26] <christel> he found it utterly hilarious
[10:26] <brobostigon> could be quite dangerous/
[10:26] <brobostigon> have been*
[10:27] <christel> sometimes he was nice though... like when i got drunk for the first time and vomited all over the house.. he cleaned up, put me to bed.. and made me cheese on toast (which in turn made me vomit all over the house again)
[10:27] <brobostigon> lol
[10:27] <christel> i was 14. and thought that if i got really really really drunk (because i'd seen in films that you'd get loads of courage then, right?) then i could declare my undying love for this guy in the year above me at school (i was a bit of a dork and too shy to talk to him)
[10:27] <davmor2> christel: that just means he took his job seriously, that's a good thing :)
[10:28] <christel> my father was most unimpressed
[10:28] <brobostigon> understandable.
[10:28] <christel> though, as a teenager i frequently failed at impressing my father
[10:28] <christel> i was terribe
[10:28] <christel> terrible*
[10:29] <christel> he'd reluctantly agreed that i could be home alone for a week whilst he flew to italy for some work business..
[10:29] <christel> i decided to drive his brand new car
[10:29] <brobostigon> lol
[10:29] <christel> ... which i promptly reversed over the picket fence
[10:29] <brobostigon> lol
[10:29] <brobostigon> :(
[10:29] <christel> (i was an awful child!) :D
[10:29] <christel> (i also crashed the day i got my license.. though not in my dads car)
[10:30] <christel> cars and me are such a bad combination
[10:30] <christel> it was a snowy dark day and i had nil visibility so i was just following the lights of the car ahead of me..
[10:30]  * bigcalm makes a note
[10:30] <christel> when it went off the road and into a trench
[10:30] <christel> where i promptly drove into it!
[10:30] <davmor2> christel: please forewarn the southerns before leaving home in a car
[10:31] <christel> i dont ever drive on the motorway
[10:31] <christel> the last time i did i had someone screaming at me from gatwick to exeter because i was too close to the curb and because i kept opening the door when i wanted to change gears
[10:31] <christel> :S
[10:31] <bigcalm> Haha, oh my
[10:31] <christel> (honestly, i conform to every single female driver stereotype there is)
[10:31] <christel> :(
[10:33] <Laney> heh, that's a fair distance
[10:34]  * davmor2 sends a email to vosa to see if we can get someone's license revoked ;)
[10:35] <davmor2> christel: You only conform to the stereotype if you refuse to believe there is a stereotype, Man you even fail at being a stereotypical woman driver ;)
[10:35] <christel> hahaha
[10:35] <christel> <3
[10:36] <bigcalm> I hate coming up with deadlines for my own work. Isn't that what project managers are for?
[10:37] <davmor2> bigcalm: if it's your work always add a week then you look awesome bringing it in early when you finish on your original target date ;)
[10:39] <christel> haha
[10:39] <bigcalm> davmor2: problem here is that my client is also my boss
[10:39] <christel> yeah, what davmor2 said!
[10:39] <bigcalm> So he has a realistic idea of what I'm meant to be doing
[10:40] <JamesTait> bigcalm: http://blog.slickedit.com/2007/08/the-perfect-estimate/
[10:41] <JamesTait> tl; dr - Two weeks is the perfect estimate.  Long enough to be plausible, short enough to not be objectionable.
[10:42] <AlanBell> so true
[10:42] <bigcalm> JamesTait: I'm inclined to agree. A project I've been working on for months is pretty much ready for field testing. So if I say 2 weeks he might be okay with it
[10:43] <AlanBell> best way is to start with 2 weeks as the estimate, then figure out what can be done in it and what goes in phase 2
[10:43] <AlanBell> then you can defer some bits to phase 2 and still hit the deadline
[10:44] <christel> i quoted a silly long deadline for a job.. (it is due on the 31st).. been sitting on it for a week already waiting to deliver and not wanting to seem daft by delivering super early :s
[10:47] <JamesTait> Estimates are just that - estimates.  If you had a perfect idea of the exact steps required and how long they'd take, and a guarantee of no interruptions, you'd be able to give an exact answer.  That's rarely the case, unfortunately.
[10:48] <bigcalm> Just sent off the 2 week estimate email
[10:48]  * bigcalm crosses his fingers
[10:49] <bigcalm> I did pad it to w/c 6th August though :)
[10:49] <bigcalm> Which gives me the weekend if needed
[10:50] <bigcalm> If I only had this one client, it'd be simpler. But also boring
[10:50] <gord> my cat keeps jumping out the first floor window (indoor cat, not allowed outide) so i can't have any windows open, i think i might die from being too warm
[10:50] <bigcalm> Catering for multiple clients keeps the job interesting yet adds to the stress :)
[10:50] <bigcalm> gord: window netting
[10:52] <gord> if i take any steps to deal with sunhine it will damn us all to rain
[10:52] <bigcalm> Haha
[10:52] <bigcalm> gord: I would not complain in the slightest
[10:53] <bigcalm> Tummy be a rumbling
[10:53] <bigcalm> Might be lunch time soon
[10:57] <christel> bigcalm: stress is always good!
[10:57] <bigcalm> christel: no it isn't. That's why I'm on happy pills :D
[10:58] <christel> oh
[10:58] <bigcalm> Didn't you know?
[10:58] <christel> one of my clients only send me superstressfuluberamounts of work that have me semi-suicidal
[10:58] <christel> however, he also pays me incredibly well and always within 3 days of me invoicing
[10:58] <christel> which makes it totally worth it
[10:58] <bigcalm> :)
[10:59] <bigcalm> A good incentive
[10:59] <Dave2> My mind looked at superstressfuluberamounts and saw lube
[10:59] <christel> apparently he feels that since i always am happy to Stay Up At Night to finish work for him on time it is only fair that he pays me quickly
[10:59] <bigcalm> Dave2: your mind is in the wrong channel for that :P
[11:00] <christel> Dave2: what constitutes a stressful amount of lube? :)
[11:00] <Dave2> Oh, whoops
[11:00] <christel> (he is by far my favourite client)
[11:00] <Dave2> stop confusing me by not talking in #lr
[11:01] <christel> hahaha
[11:02] <bigcalm> I do believe it's time for lunch!
[11:02] <christel> mmm
[11:02] <christel> what are you making me? :D
[11:02] <Dave2> It does appear to be
[11:03] <bigcalm> Chicken Pizzola subway on honey oat. Grated cheese and toasted. Lettuce, tomato, olives, onions and jalapeños. Touch of mayonnaise
[11:04] <christel> sounds tasty but way too heavy for this heat!
[11:04] <christel> i think i shall opt for a liquid lunch!
[11:04]  * Dave2 will be having a burger
[11:04] <Dave2> in an air conditioned office
[11:05]  * Laney is going to head out to the park this aft
[11:05] <Laney> find some shade. laptop. 3g.
[11:05] <Laney> pimms?
[11:05]  * JamesTait will mostly be ferrying kids around, and grabbing whatever's quick to prepare and probably eating it at his desk.
[11:05] <christel> PIMMS! <3<3
[11:05]  * christel goes to the park with Laney 
[11:05] <Laney> \o/
[11:05] <davmor2> christel: I hope that means soup and not Martinis on the quarter deck?
[11:06] <christel> JamesTait: hehe
[11:06] <christel> davmor2: i er. no :( i ws thinking that since it is sunny i should try a sunny diet of vast alcoholic proportions
[11:06]  * AlanBell will have to stock up on pimms for the BBQ
[11:07] <christel> mmmpimms
[11:07] <bigcalm> I really really want to be at the BBQ!
[11:07]  * christel wants to go to the BBQ
[11:07]  * bigcalm grumbles
[11:07] <christel> haha
[11:07] <davmor2> christel: back to work then till you think soup is more sensible ;)
[11:07] <christel> davmor2: vodka is soup right?
[11:07] <christel> i mean, it is almost like a potato and onion soup minus the onions
[11:07] <christel> if it is a potato vodka that is
[11:09] <davmor2> christel: if it was a bloody mary then it's basically cold tomato soup that alcoholic  :D
[11:09] <christel> PERFECT
[11:09] <christel> i'll add some tomato to it!
[11:10] <JamesTait> davmor2: Don't encourage her! :-P
[11:10]  * christel sulks
[11:11] <davmor2> JamesTait: why on earth not? It's fun :D
[11:11] <christel> i am pondering whether it would be possible to play a drinking game on my own
[11:12] <brobostigon> christel: that might be difficult.
[11:12] <christel> hrmph
[11:13]  * christel goes investigate whether she has any summerly booze
[11:13] <TheOpenSourcerer> Did someone say booze?
[11:14]  * bigcalm said lunch
[11:14] <bigcalm> *gone*
[11:14] <TheOpenSourcerer> boozy lunch :-)
[11:14]  * JamesTait turns to the dumbells while waiting for tests to finish running.
[11:14] <JamesTait> This health kick is going to kill me. :-/
[11:15] <christel> boozy lunch \o/
[11:15] <christel> we should boozy lunch again soon TheOpenSourcerer!
[11:15] <christel> it has been Ages
[11:16] <TheOpenSourcerer> Good idea christel
[11:16] <christel> JamesTait: see, that would sort of defeat the point! (if it killed you)
[11:16]  * christel nods
[11:16] <christel> full of good ideas me!
[11:16] <brobostigon> good plan batwomen/christel
[11:17] <christel> \o/
[11:18] <JamesTait> christel: True. Doesn't do much for my ability to type, either. ;)
[11:18] <brobostigon> i recieves my NAS 50th year suyvay book today, should be an interesting read.
[11:18] <christel> JamesTait: i bet! i cant imagine trying to lift dumbells whilst attempting to type :P
[11:18] <brobostigon> survay*
[11:19] <davmor2> JamesTait: That's your problem, enjoy your health rather than kicking it and you'll live longer ;)
[11:19] <brobostigon> build a machine to do the bumbells, and then type.
[11:19] <JamesTait> christel: I asked for that.
[11:20] <JamesTait> davmor2: I blame Wii Fit Plus.  And my own bloody-mindedness for wanting to beat it.
[11:21] <christel> ;)
[11:23] <davmor2> JamesTait: you could get joggers wrist weights then do really theatrical typing lifting you hands about a 15cm off the keyboard and back that should cover both then
[11:24] <JamesTait> davmor2: Yeah, but then my kids wouldn't walk past the garage^Woffice door with their mates and go "Whoa!  Look at my dad!  He's lifting *really heavy* weights!" ;)
[11:25] <christel> hahahaha
[11:26] <christel> i used to train with this personal trainer who convinced me to go onto his "fighting fit bootcamp"
[11:26] <christel> where they made us run around with people on stretchers
[11:26] <christel> it was most peculiar
[11:26] <christel> (he now spends his days being pretty on GMTV whilst giving fitness advice)
[11:27] <davmor2> JamesTait: they aren't heavy weights if they are on a dumbell, you might fool your kids but not I :D
[11:28] <JamesTait> davmor2: You and I both know that, but in the "my dad's harder than your dad" stakes, appearances count. ;)
[11:28] <christel> (it never involves carrying people on stretchers, i've checked)
[11:28] <JamesTait> christel: Sounds... fun.
[11:29] <davmor2> JamesTait: Let me throw you a 45kG gas bottle some time :D
[11:29] <christel> it actually was quite fun, mainly when it was my turn to lie on the stretcher :D
[11:29] <JamesTait> davmor2: Sure.  Just be careful to break it into nice, manageable 1kg chunks first. :)
[11:31] <christel> i am tired.
[11:31] <JamesTait> (Meanwhile one of my tests has failed in a way that doesn't appear to be related to the changes I made.... so now waiting for the rest of the suite to finish so I can re-run that test and flag it as flaky, if necessary).
[11:31] <christel> (all this talk about JamesTait working out has worn me out!)
[11:32] <JamesTait> Heheh.
[11:32] <davmor2> JamesTait: that would need to be 500g chunks don't forget you have to match steel weight with gas weight :)  90+ KGs of weight for a 45KG gas bottle :D
[11:33] <JamesTait> davmor2: It should be OK. I'm borrowing brobostigon's machine. ;)
[11:34] <brobostigon> :(
[11:34] <christel> hehe
[11:35] <JamesTait> Right, these tests are taking forever, and I'm hungry and have taxi runs to do.
[11:35] <JamesTait> So....
[11:35]  * JamesTait -> lunch
[11:35] <davmor2> bye JamesTait
[11:35]  * brobostigon takes his machine back form JamesTait , and gives JamesTait the oldest machine he can find.
[11:35] <JamesTait> ttfn!
[11:35] <christel> aw, see what you've done brobostigon .. he got so upset he left :(
[11:36] <brobostigon> christel: he stole my machine,
[11:36] <christel> :(
[11:36] <brobostigon> :(
[11:36] <brobostigon> agreed.
[11:36] <christel> not nice :(
[11:36] <brobostigon> exactly:(
[11:38]  * christel offers brobostigon a pint
[11:39]  * brobostigon thanks christel, takes the pint and swigs, and makes agreeable noises.
[11:39] <christel> \o/
[11:40] <brobostigon> :)
[12:12] <bigcalm> You can all stop worrying. I have returned!
[12:13] <christel> THANK GOD FOR THAT
[12:14] <christel> i am flat out in the garden soaking up sun whilst drinking beer and listening to kapslap and it has been SO boring without you!
[12:14] <bigcalm> :O
[12:14] <christel> ;)
[12:14]  * bigcalm turns green
[12:14] <christel> hahahaha
[12:15] <christel> doesn't really suit you tbh
[12:18] <bigcalm> I don't think I can be envious any more
[12:18] <bigcalm> Pretty much all emotions are dulled by the happy pills :)
[12:18] <daubers> bigcalm is kermit the frog?
[12:18] <bigcalm> daubers: it's not easy you know
[12:19] <daubers> bigcalm: Being green or living with Miss Piggy?
[12:19] <bigcalm> HAha
[12:19] <christel> aw
[12:19] <christel> is that good or bad?
[12:19] <bigcalm> I wouldn't let Hayley see that
[12:19] <daubers> uh oh
[12:19] <bigcalm> She is my world
[12:19]  * daubers hides behind popey 
[12:19] <brobostigon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra_3#Tegra_3 interesting, that it has that low power companiion core, for lower power modes.
[12:19] <christel> i like miss piggy
[12:19] <christel> she's a bit naughty
[12:20] <bigcalm> :)
[12:20]  * brobostigon is like monster.
[12:20] <christel> brobostigon: :D
[12:20] <bigcalm> I've noshed my cookie
[12:20] <brobostigon> christel: i play the drums, and i have the wild hair sometimes, and go abit mad.
[12:20] <christel> \o/
[12:20] <brobostigon> :)
[12:20] <christel> someone tried to teach me to play the drums once
[12:20] <christel> it didn't work
[12:20] <brobostigon> :(
[12:20] <christel> apparently i was completely and utterly useless :(
[12:21] <brobostigon> :(
[12:21] <brobostigon> christel: i want a drum stick bag, with image of monster on.
[12:22] <brobostigon> images*
[12:22] <christel> :D
[12:22] <brobostigon> :)
[12:22] <christel> i wilL SEW YOU ONE
[12:22] <brobostigon> thank you :)
[12:22] <christel> whilst i am useless with drums i totally rock a sewing machine!
[12:22] <christel> \o/
[12:22] <brobostigon> :)
[12:22] <christel> mind, the guy who tried to teach me to play the drums was certifiedly insane
[12:22] <christel> he got sectioned actually
[12:22] <brobostigon> :(
[12:23] <christel> after attempting to convince people that he was an alien
[12:23] <christel> shame really, just after he got sectioned the band he was in signed a record deal and had to replace him :S
[12:23] <brobostigon> :(
[12:24] <christel> they do fairly nice music
[12:24]  * christel checks youtube
[12:24] <christel> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJt6keI3N94
[12:24] <brobostigon> always reminds me of keith moon, monster does.
[12:24] <christel> i like monster
[12:24] <christel> :D
[12:25] <brobostigon> :)
[12:25] <JamesTait> I think maybe I should have bought that garden table and chairs at the weekend.
[12:25] <christel> JamesTait: haha
[12:26] <christel> brobostigon: do you play in a band btw?
[12:26] <brobostigon> christel: no.
[12:26] <christel> aww
[12:26] <brobostigon> christel: i dont think i am really good enough yet, either.
[12:26] <christel> :)
[12:26] <christel> music was huge for me when i was Much Younger
[12:26] <brobostigon> :)
[12:27] <christel> my parents were most pleased when i was accepted to study professional performance and composition at the edward grieg academy in bergen
[12:27] <brobostigon> bergen, cool.
[12:27] <christel> not as impressed when i spent the next two years smoking pot and drinking red wine before dropping out of uni to travel the world with some longhaired hippie i'd bumped into
[12:28] <brobostigon> lol, phwell, :(
[12:28] <christel> (i play the violin and the cello, and a bit of piano and guitar -- and well, not the drums!) :)
[12:28] <brobostigon> christel: next thing on my list, is the lap steel.
[12:28] <christel> :D
[12:29] <brobostigon> but i would have to learn the guitar first i reckon.
[12:29] <christel> might help!
[12:29] <brobostigon> yes. i agree.
[12:30] <christel> these days i suck at playing the guitar
[12:30] <brobostigon> how much practice ?
[12:30] <christel> it tends to only come out at 2am after pub when the house is full of drunken people
[12:30] <brobostigon> lol.
[12:30] <christel> and everyone has tons of requests and whatever i  try play always turns into that bloody save tonight tune
[12:30] <christel> (i have no idea why/how)
[12:31] <christel> i used to be decent i guess -- could pick up pretty much anything from listening -- but when i dropped out of uni i sort of stopped playing pretty much everything
[12:32] <brobostigon> :(
[12:32] <christel> how odd.. have i just shared my entire life story with -uk today?
[12:32] <christel> that doesn't sound wise!
[12:32] <christel> silly christel :D
[12:32] <brobostigon> lol :)
[12:32]  * bigcalm tickles silly christel
[12:34]  * christel squeals
[12:34] <christel> WITH THE DELIGHT i hasten to add!
[12:34] <bigcalm> Hah
[12:34] <christel> maybe i should mop the floors
[12:35] <bigcalm> You do have strange ideas of fun
[12:35] <christel> well, i dunno.. i am BORED
[12:35] <christel> :P
[12:35]  * brobostigon is just doing paperwork for tmrw.
[12:36] <christel> oh paperwork
[12:36] <christel> i should do some invoicing
[12:37] <christel> or buy shoes
[12:37] <christel> hrm hrm
[12:37] <Myrtti> Mr. Brightside!
[12:37] <Myrtti> PLAY FREEBIRD!
[12:38] <christel> I MIGHT beer in the boy's pool!
[12:40]  * bigcalm pokes USC to download things more quickly
[12:41] <bigcalm> Actually, it's giving me a steady rate of close to 4MB/s
[12:41]  * bigcalm pokes VirginMedia to give me more bandwidth
[12:42] <bigcalm> 4.4GB still takes a while to download
[12:43]  * dogmatic69 pokes BT and says thanks for the bazillion GB/s internet
[12:43] <dogmatic69> bigcalm: 4MB/s is okish (for home)
[12:44] <bigcalm> dogmatic69: it is. I don't really download things that much. Not of size anyway
[12:44] <bigcalm> But it's handy that it happens quickishly
[12:46] <popey> can someone on precise please test something for me?
[12:46] <popey> requires you to be running unity
[12:46]  * popey tickles AlanBell 
[12:47]  * AlanBell is on quanta
[12:47] <AlanBell> l
[12:47]  * AlanBell lives dangerously
[12:47] <popey> oh, that'll do
[12:47] <dogmatic69> popey: if precise is 12.04, I can
[12:47] <popey> switch to a clean desktop
[12:47] <popey> open two terminals
[12:47] <popey> alt+` between them
[12:47] <popey> as fast as you possibly can
[12:47] <popey> does a pop up appear
[12:47] <popey> ?
[12:47] <popey> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEwiUGMkKVk
[12:48] <popey> thats what I see - a popup
[12:49] <dogmatic69> popey: its almost like the alt-tab popup?
[12:49] <dogmatic69> just fatter
[12:49] <popey> its the same popup
[12:49] <popey> but on alt+tab it's supressed if youi're quick
[12:49] <AlanBell> not reproduced
[12:49] <dogmatic69> alt-` shows a preview though.
[12:49] <dogmatic69> alt-tab shows icons
[12:50] <popey> dogmatic69, do it _really_ quick
[12:50] <popey> can you both tell me what version of unity you're running?
[12:50] <popey> apt-cache policy unity | grep Installed
[12:50] <popey>   Installed: 5.14.0-0ubuntu1
[12:50] <AlanBell> unity 6.0.0
[12:50] <popey> AlanBell, what video card? intel?
[12:50] <dogmatic69> Installed: 5.12-0ubuntu1.1
[12:50] <AlanBell> yeah, intel core i3 standard stuff
[12:51] <popey> dogmatic69, can you please enable the precise-proposed repo and update, logout/in and test again?
[12:51] <popey> 5.14.0-0ubuntu1 is in proposed
[12:51] <dogmatic69> ok, not sure I can do it right this minute
[12:52] <popey> ok
[12:52] <popey> what video card out of interest?
[12:52] <dogmatic69> only 'popup' for me currently is a similar one to alt-tab
[12:52] <popey> yeah, its the same
[12:52] <dogmatic69> nvidia geforce 9800gt
[12:52] <popey> hmm
[12:59] <JamesTait> popey: Reproduced here (I see a pop-up, with the highlighted terminal window switching) on unity 5.12-0ubuntu1.1 and nvidia GeForce GT330M.
[12:59] <popey> JamesTait, thanks, need to check it on 5.14 when you get a moment
[13:00] <bigcalm> 4.4GB downloaded and now the machine is going nuts installing it
[13:00] <JamesTait> popey: Noted for later - I'm due a reboot anyway.
[13:01] <bigcalm> Filesystem         Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[13:01] <bigcalm> /dev/sda1           52G   48G  2.2G  96% /
[13:01] <bigcalm> Oh bum
[13:01] <diplo> :P
[13:01] <bigcalm> This is what I get for installing games on an SSD
[13:02] <bigcalm> Yep, it's just hit 100% usage
[13:03] <bigcalm> Filesystem        1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
[13:03] <bigcalm> /dev/sda1          54313724  52826168         0 100% /
[13:03] <bigcalm> :|
[13:04] <diplo> :/
[13:05] <bigcalm> :\
[13:06] <diplo> Remove some stuff you don't need ?
[13:06] <bigcalm> Trying to
[13:07] <bigcalm> Just deleted the spotify cache and got 500mb back
[13:09] <bigcalm> 4.5GB in apt's cache
[13:10] <bigcalm> Can I just empty the directory, or is there a command I should run instead?
[13:10] <diplo> yeah i tidy mine occasionally
[13:11] <JamesTait> bigcalm: sudo apt-get autoclean
[13:11] <bigcalm> Ta
[13:11] <gord> autoclean just remove packages you don't need installed doesn't it?
[13:11] <gord> or am i confused
[13:11] <bigcalm> autoremove I think
[13:11] <JamesTait> gord: Removes old versions of downloaded package files from the cache.
[13:12] <bigcalm> But didn't empty the cache :|
[13:12] <gord> i just rm the cache
[13:12] <diplo> +1 gord  :)
[13:12] <JamesTait> Well, you can do sudo apt-get clean
[13:14] <JamesTait> That should remove everything from the cache, whether there's a newer version or not.  I tend to go that route simply because apt keeps indexes and stuff.
[13:16] <bigcalm> I've found 4.9GB of space
[13:16] <bigcalm> That'll do for now
[13:16] <bigcalm> But I do fear 60GB of SDD in my work station isn't enough :(
[13:16] <gord> hasn't beenfor me
[13:17] <diplo> Why not use rust for any big stuff bigcalm ?
[13:17] <diplo> as popey puts it?
[13:17] <gord> make sure your music is in some variation of a cloud, that helped for me
[13:17] <bigcalm> I have a separate server here with my music and dev work on it
[13:17] <bigcalm> Not sure what's taking up the space on my workstation
[13:18] <gord> use the disk space usage thing?
[13:18] <gord> it will tell youwhat is
[13:19] <diplo> had a friends machine ( not linux ) use up all his space recently, so he just plugged another drive in to use, couldn't format it etc so gave it to me.
[13:19] <bigcalm> I have 35.1GB in my home directory
[13:19] <diplo> He'd only used about 20gb on a 250gb disc
[13:19] <bigcalm> 8.6GB of it is in Thunderbird :|
[13:19] <diplo> their was 205.1gb of .DMP files from AVG crashing
[13:19] <diplo> :(
[13:19] <diplo> blimey bigcalm, lot's of email :D
[13:20]  * diplo keeps his fairly empty
[13:20] <bigcalm> diplo: 4 accounts and I don't delete anything
[13:20] <bigcalm> Oh, found a bit of usage - get iplayer has been running on my workstation instead of the server
[13:20] <bigcalm> 3.1GB. That can be moved to the server
[13:21] <popey> :)
[13:21] <popey> i do love my ssd
[13:21] <diplo> Blimey, got to keep on top of email. I don't keep anything unless it's 100% needed
[13:21] <popey> 12G	.thunderbird/
[13:21] <popey> alan@deep-thought:~$
[13:21] <popey> haha
[13:22] <popey> i know someone who keeps all his mail
[13:22] <popey> every mail he has ever sent or received
[13:22] <Laney> ME!
[13:22] <gord> me too, i store it in gmail.com
[13:22] <christel> i do not, it would tempt me into re-reading it
[13:22] <christel> never a good idea
[13:27] <diplo> really, I used to years ago.
[13:27] <diplo> Then thought why
[13:33] <mattt> woo, just saw the torch
[13:33] <mattt> ran right by work
[13:34] <christel> \o/
[13:37] <JamesTait> mattt: Is it dark there?  Sunny here.
[13:38] <christel> freenode staff apparently fail to appreciate my having liquid lunches and are attempting to plot how they can deoper me
[13:38] <bigcalm> Heh
[13:39] <christel> :(
[13:39] <christel> h8rs
[13:39] <bigcalm> Good luck with that one
[13:39] <Dave2> :o
[13:39] <bigcalm> Dave2 will protect you!
[13:39] <gord> i agree with this course of action, also banned from #u-uk until such time as i am on holidays and can show off
[13:40] <bigcalm> I think czajkowski would have me bared from IRC while I'm on holiday
[13:40] <JamesTait> I just realised a few minutes ago I didn't have an Ubuntu-UK circle on G+.  Now rectified.
[13:42] <christel> but Dave2 is only 2 foot tall
[13:42] <christel> he couldnt take them all :(
[13:42] <Dave2> :(
[13:43] <Dave2> bigcalm: bared or barred?
[13:43] <christel> BARED
[13:43] <christel> :D
[13:45] <christel> AM I IN JamesTait's CIRCLE i wonder?!
[13:45]  * christel investigates
[13:46] <diplo> nO!
[13:46] <diplo> ooer
[13:46]  * diplo hates working on a system that is CAPS LOCK DEPENDANT!!¬£""£"
[13:46] <diplo> :(
[13:47]  * mattt stares at jamestait
[13:48] <christel> mattt: cute isnt he?
[13:51] <Dave2> Lock away all of the caps
[13:52] <mattt> christel: that's one way of putting it
[13:53] <christel> ;)
[13:55] <JamesTait> christel: You were the first person in my Ubuntu-UK circle. ;)
[13:55] <christel> AWWWW
[13:55] <christel> i feel all special now :D
[13:55]  * christel swoons
[13:56]  * christel tells everyone that she was JamesTait's first...
[13:56] <christel> ;)
[13:56] <JamesTait> :-P
[13:56]  * christel hugs JamesTait 
[13:56] <diplo> She is unstoppable today!
[13:56]  * diplo thinks too much happy juice
[13:56] <christel> diplo: hahahaha sorry
[13:56] <christel> it is The Sun!
[13:56] <christel> (and the beer)
[13:56] <diplo> I was sooooo close to going for a liquid lunch
[13:56] <diplo> But I knew I had to actually work this afternoon and it wouldn't have happened
[13:57] <christel> you should have done!
[13:57] <christel> aww
[13:57] <christel> i should "stop" soon
[13:57] <christel> i am on beer #4
[13:57] <diplo> Pub is literally 20 yards from me and a beautiful beer garden
[13:57] <christel> and at some point i must be Sensible or something
[13:57] <diplo> Don't do it!
[13:58] <christel> don't be sensible? oh ok then!
[13:58] <christel> :D
[14:01] <diplo> What does your other half think when he comes back and you've been drinking, I'd be jealous :D
[14:01] <christel> i dunno, he keeps asking me how many beers i've had
[14:01] <christel> and whether i'll be "pissed right up" when he returns home
[14:01] <christel> (i suspect he is worried that he has to fend for himself and cook his own dinner!)
[14:02] <christel> alternatively, he is worried that i'll drink all his beer ;)
[14:02] <JamesTait> I suspect the latter.
[14:02] <bigcalm> That sounds more like it
[14:02] <diplo> The latter would be my worry
[14:03]  * popey looks forward to AlanBell basting his meat in the sun whilst other people watch
[14:03] <bigcalm> :O
[14:03] <popey> \o/ BBQ Saturday
[14:03] <bigcalm> Oh my
[14:03] <diplo> oh dear god
[14:03] <christel> http://i.imgur.com/JF1Fq.png  am not entirely sure he is as amused as i am
[14:03] <christel> popey: oh deary me
[14:03]  * diplo thinks popey should rephrase
[14:04] <diplo> christel: Was was the response? :P
[14:04] <diplo> What*
[14:04] <christel> it as "its ok as long as you're not out of control" "like after the real ale train"(!?)
[14:04] <Twinkletoes> I want to monitor another ubuntu server using nagios, assuming all I need it the nagios-nrpe-plugin package, it looks like it wants to install a full blow nagios server aswell (eg. it want to install nagios3, nagios3-common, nagios3-core etc.)
[14:04] <christel> i thought i was most behaved after the RAT
[14:05] <Twinkletoes> Surely I'm doing teh wrong thing here?
[14:05] <bigcalm> o.O
[14:05] <diplo> Twinkletoes: Should just need the nrpe package, does on centos.. and I'm sure I've done on ubuntu the same before
[14:06] <Dave2> Oh yes, I should find out where AlanBell lives. (Even if I have been there before. Unexpectedly.)
[14:06] <christel> !
[14:06] <christel> Dave2: you accidentally the whole AlanBell ? :o
[14:06] <Dave2> I accidentally the whole battery
[14:06] <Dave2> the whole phone battery
[14:07] <christel> that's what i feared
[14:07] <christel> oh.. not the BATTERY CHICKENS?
[14:07] <Twinkletoes> diplo: Does that look right or wrong to you?   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1108247/
[14:07] <AlanBell> they are free range!
[14:07] <Dave2> no
[14:07] <Dave2> Nor the song Battery by Metallica
[14:08] <diplo> Twinkletoes: You shouldn't need common / core
[14:08] <christel> yes, i find chicks are happier when allowed to roam free
[14:08] <diplo> Tryin g on my home box
[14:08] <diplo> 2 secs
[14:08] <christel> ooh metallica
[14:08]  * christel musics
[14:08] <diplo> Hmm, already have nagios on there.. try here
[14:08] <Twinkletoes> diplo: Yeah... that's what I think, but it wants them
[14:08]  * Dave2 has Battery playing in his head
[14:09] <Dave2> When they play it live they always get the tempo wrong IME :(
[14:09] <diplo> Yep, doing the same for me..
[14:09] <Twinkletoes> diplo: nagios-plugins-basic didn't bring in any dependencies
[14:10] <Twinkletoes> diplo: aptitude show nagios-plugins pointed me to it
[14:10] <diplo> bug 927651
[14:10] <Twinkletoes> Ah!
[14:10] <diplo> --no-install-recommends seems the way round
[14:11] <diplo> affects me to
[14:11] <diplo> Added my name to it
[14:13] <diplo> Twinkletoes: It used to work fine on 10* when I last used it, but I monitor CentOS boxes or RH based distros 99% of the time
[14:13] <diplo> Could use snmp if the no install recommends doesn't work ?
[14:13] <Twinkletoes> diplo: hmm....
[14:15] <diplo> Seems to only install plugins with above option ( Just installing here )
[14:15] <Twinkletoes> diplo: But something needs to listen on the default port 5666.  is that happening gor you?
[14:15] <diplo> Nope
[14:16]  * Twinkletoes growls
[14:17]  * Twinkletoes might just download from source
[14:18] <christel> 15:15  (lacroix) I like to drink beer with a shot of white tequilla in it
[14:18] <christel> must be tried
[14:18]  * christel looks for tequila
[14:18] <diplo> Will check Twinkletoes, sorry on the phone atm
[14:18] <Twinkletoes> diplo: Cheers :)
[14:19] <diplo> yeah it seems to be missing the daemon/config to go with said daemon
[14:19] <diplo> I think it's been packaged wrong
[14:20] <diplo> ah, nrpe-server
[14:20] <diplo> yeah that's what you want as well
[14:21] <Twinkletoes> diplo: The description of that package is mmisl;eading then
[14:21] <diplo> So nrpe-server grabs nrpe-plugins, snmp and a few other deps
[14:22] <Twinkletoes> diplo: Lemme see
[14:22] <diplo> Just installing here now
[14:22] <Twinkletoes> diplo: much better - thank you
[14:23] <diplo> that's defo not very clear, and defo broken package
[14:23] <diplo> Did you add yourself to affected package on launchpad ?
[14:23] <Twinkletoes> diplo: no, still have the page open though
[14:25] <diplo> Gets it more noticed i guess
[14:28] <Twinkletoes> diplo: Ok, added :)
[14:31] <popey> AlanBell, bah! that digitalsurrey thing in farnham is the same day/time as the ubuntuonair thing :(
[14:31] <popey> one day I'll get to go to DS
[14:35] <diplo> AlanBell: How many peeps going to yours on Sat ?
[14:36] <diplo> popey: Did you want my Virgin hardware (V+ / Old box ) still ?
[14:36] <AlanBell> diplo: not entirely sure
[14:36] <bigcalm> You'd still need a card to go with it
[14:36] <popey> i do
[14:37] <bigcalm> Or replace a V box with the V+ box
[14:37] <bigcalm> Would be nice to do that in our bedroom
[14:37] <popey> that was the plan :)
[14:41] <diplo> OK AlanBell, well it seems I've gone from "Maybe" to definite now.
[14:42] <diplo> As long as I can find this v+ box for popey :)
[14:51]  * JamesTait melts
[14:51] <christel> oh no :(
[14:51]  * brobostigon pours liquid nitrogen over JamesTait 
[14:51]  * christel breaks off a piece 
[14:51] <brobostigon> lol
[14:51] <christel> (and another)
[14:51] <christel> :x
[14:54] <christel> popey: sok! i can go and pretend to be you, i have a wig! when is it? ;)
[14:57] <popey> what are you babbling about christel ?
[14:58] <JamesTait> Um, thanks brobostigon. I think.
[14:58] <JamesTait> christel: Hold onto those. They'll be worth something some day.
[14:58] <brobostigon> JamesTait: it was an attempt at cooling you down, :), you're welcome, :)
[14:59] <christel> popey: digital surrey silly!
[14:59] <popey> ah
[15:00] <christel> but you're probably talking about the thing on thursday, so i might be in norway (if the boy wonder's passport arrives tomorrow -- cutting it fine)
[15:02] <christel> and if i am not then they have no more tickets left! boo
[15:11] <gord> ice-cream vans have it all wrong, it needs to be reversed. be like a takeout so i can call up the ice-cream place and have them deliver the ice-cream
[15:11] <christel> YES
[15:11] <christel> i approve of this petition, where do i sign?
[15:11] <gord> also, all delivery vans should have music playing so you know when they are here
[15:12]  * christel nods
[15:12] <christel> which reminds me, i am awaiting a delivery WHICH HAS FAILED TO ARRIVE
[15:12] <christel> (well i guess technically it is due by 6)
[15:12] <bigcalm> Anybody here played Psychonauts installed via the USC?
[15:12] <bigcalm> I've noticed that some in-game videos aren't playing (in Basic Braining so far). Compared to the Windows version
[15:12] <JamesTait> gord: Reminds me of my first sprint in Buenos Aires.  We had ice cream delivered to the apartment.
[15:12] <christel> !
[15:12]  * christel moves
[15:14] <gord> in belgium we ordered pizza but it took hours to arrive, so to appologise we got two bottles of red wine for free, i like that pizza place
[15:15] <christel> i once ordered chinese in utrecht.. and i'd ordered egg fried rice
[15:15] <christel> it was rice with a whole fried egg on top
[15:15] <christel> that totally confused me
[15:15] <gord> that i not how you make egg fried rice at all
[15:16] <Laney> egg(,) fried (+) rice
[15:16]  * christel tickles Laney 
[15:18] <bigcalm> HAha
[15:22] <dogmatic69> cpu temp normally: 40'C, cpu temp today: 60'C
[15:22]  * dogmatic69 is busy melting
[15:22] <daubers> dogmatic69: Solve it with fire!
[15:25] <JamesTait> brobostigon: dogmatic69 needs you. ;)
[15:25] <dogmatic69> server fans at 70%, normally 49%
[15:25] <christel> how did i parse dogmatic69 as dogtanian?
[15:25]  * brobostigon also goes for a swim in the liquid nitrogen.
[15:25]  * christel starts breaking off parts of brobostigon too
[15:26]  * brobostigon puts a vat of liquid nitrogen in u-uk garden.
[15:26]  * JamesTait imagines christel's house with a collection of body parts.
[15:26]  * brobostigon is special, he wont freeze, therefore christel not being able to do that.
[15:26] <christel> JamesTait: :D
[15:26] <christel> i shall turn it into a museum
[15:26] <christel> :D
[15:27] <christel> brobostigon: aw
[15:27] <brobostigon> christel: :)
[15:27]  * JamesTait offers another appendage to compensate.
[15:27] <daubers> !ohmy
[15:27] <daubers> :p
[15:27] <christel> JamesTait: ;)
[15:27] <christel> daubers: hahaha it was a foot, honest
[15:27] <christel> ;)
[15:28] <JamesTait> I was thinking of an arm, actually.
[15:28] <christel> oh i already have an arm from earlier
[15:30] <JamesTait> christel: So that would make me 'armless!
[15:30] <christel> it would :(
[15:30] <christel> sorry
[15:30] <christel> no more weightlifting for you
[15:31] <christel> unless.. well.. you use your feet
[15:56] <bigcalm> Bottle of water in the freezer for half an hour has worked out perfectly
[15:56]  * bigcalm is refreshed
[15:58] <christel> :D
[15:58] <christel> i might have to go LOCATE MORE beer
[15:58] <brobostigon> :)
[15:58] <christel> then i shall BBQ some quails eggs wrapped in pancetta
[15:58] <brobostigon> very long liquid lunch.
[15:58] <christel> YES
[15:58] <christel> :D
[15:58]  * christel beers brobostigon 
[15:59]  * brobostigon thanks christel and makes agreeable noises as he slurps.
[16:01] <brobostigon> :)
[16:01] <christel> <3
[16:01] <brobostigon> :)
[16:02] <JamesTait> So, when I finish work, who here should I add to my OggCampers circle?
[16:02] <christel> aw i wish i was oggcamping this year
[16:03] <Flashtek> o/
[16:03] <Flashtek> Anyone good with cups ?
[16:03]  * JamesTait just realised the flaw in the plan.
[16:04] <JamesTait> Flashtek: I'm good at drinking stuff out of them.
[16:05] <Flashtek> Anyone good with c.u.p.s. ?
[16:05] <Flashtek> JamesTait: :-P
[16:05] <JamesTait> That reminds me of C.H.I.P.S.
[16:16] <bigcalm> A new chippy local to us is apparently serving cheesy chips
[16:17] <bigcalm> Will have to investigate
[16:17] <Flashtek> bigcalm: get me some ?
[16:18] <bigcalm> One of the best things I discovered while in Glasgow some years ago
[16:18] <Flashtek> cheesy chips are awesome
[16:18] <Flashtek> i put them on a menu of a fast food join in Exeter many years ago
[16:27] <christel> chips \o/
[16:27] <brobostigon> :)
[16:27] <christel> with cheese :D
[16:30] <Flashtek> c.h.i.p.s.w/c.h.e.e.s.e.
[16:55] <christel> wooo it is almost christmas \o/
[16:55] <Azelphur> just a little longer...
[16:56] <Azelphur> also save me, it's 37C in my room
[17:00] <christel> haha
[17:00]  * christel offers Azelphur a fan
[17:00] <Azelphur> I am actually hugging a fan right now xD
[17:00] <bigcalm> christel: you scared the servers into splitting
[17:00] <Azelphur> still rising too, 37.5 now \o/
[17:00] <christel> bigcalm: :(
[17:01] <christel> i cant fix it either
[17:01] <bigcalm> Bottoms
[17:01] <christel> 17:24 !pratchett.freenode.net *** Notice -- spb (~stephen@freenode/developer/exherbo.spb) is now an operator
[17:01] <christel> 17:25 !holmes.freenode.net spb is deopering you.
[17:01] <christel> 17:25 !holmes.freenode.net *** Notice -- spb!~stephen@freenode/developer/exherbo.spb{pratchett.freenode.net} is deopering christel.
[17:01] <christel> because apparently i am not sober and therefore not allowed to irc!
[17:01] <christel> :P
[17:01] <bigcalm> Haha
[17:01] <bigcalm> That sounds reasonable
[17:01] <bigcalm> So what if you run the joint? ;P
[17:02] <christel> nil respect for authority innit
[17:02] <bigcalm> Erk!
[17:02] <bigcalm> 6pm
[17:02] <bigcalm> Time for me to go and walk Hayley's dog with her
[17:02] <bigcalm> Toodles for now :)
[17:02] <JamesTait> bigcalm: o/
[17:02] <christel> ta ta
[17:04] <bigcalm> \o
[17:08] <JamesTait> These flies are driving me insane, especially with the warmer weather.
[17:08] <JamesTait> I think I'm going to start breeding spiders.
[17:10] <Flashtek> get a cat
[17:11] <brobostigon> spiders dont need feedting etc, and spiders create less waste byproducts.
[17:11] <brobostigon> and a spider cant attack you.
[17:11] <christel> SPIDERS :D
[17:11] <gord> but then you'll need something to catch the cat that ate the spider that caught the fly, oh no, maybe you'll die
[17:12] <christel> oh i wonder what happened to the spider i stole
[17:12] <JamesTait> Flashtek: I have six.
[17:12] <christel> six spiders?
[17:12] <christel> oh cats
[17:12] <JamesTait> christel: Cats. :)
[17:13] <JamesTait> I have three spiders in my eyeline from where I'm currently sat.
[17:13] <JamesTait> I need to flog them harder, they're slacking.
[17:13] <directhex> BURN YOUR HOUSE DOWN
[17:13] <gord> spiders are cute :P
[17:13] <christel> :D
[17:13] <christel> yes! <3 spiders
[17:14] <christel> ./1
[17:15] <directhex> BURN YOUR STREET DOWN
[17:26] <MartijnVdS> disco inferno?
[17:27] <christel> :D
[17:35] <popey> JamesTait, i began clearing out my garage at the weekend
[17:35] <popey> i am considering having a "build, beer and bbq" party
[17:35] <JamesTait> popey: Excellent! :)
[17:35] <JamesTait> popey: Will we see photos on $SOCIAL_NETWORK?
[17:36] <popey> yeah
[17:36] <popey> i haven't taken any yet
[17:36] <popey> could be webcammable
[17:36] <MartijnVdS> how un-popey of you ;)
[17:36] <JamesTait> I'm just awaiting a final insurance payment to get started with insulating my garage roof.
[17:37] <JamesTait> Sorry, *office* roof.
[17:37] <JamesTait> ;)
[17:38] <JamesTait> I've also been told that when I'm off work in a couple of weeks, we'll be clearing out a lot of the stuff in here.
[17:40] <JamesTait> Which suits me just fine.  There's a lot of stuff that doesn't belong in here.
[17:40] <popey> i still need to find homes for some stuff
[17:41] <JamesTait> Yeah, me too.  I'll need more bookshelves, and a couple of crates to put some stuff in.  A few trips to the tip, no doubt.
[17:42] <JamesTait> And a couple of bits will be taken out of storage and put back into use. :)
[17:42] <JamesTait> Right, I think it's time for me to do one.
[17:43] <JamesTait> Have a great evening, all!
[17:43]  * JamesTait waves
[17:44] <brobostigon> o/
[18:50] <SinCity25> hi
[20:10]  * bigcalm has returned (again)
[20:11] <christel> hullu bigcalm
[20:11] <bigcalm> Howdie doodie christel :)
[20:40] <Azelphur> is there a way I can have a machine run a command when someone connects to SSH?
[20:50] <Twinkletoes|H> I simply can't remember how to configure users in postfix, without adding them to /etc/passwd.  Any ideas?
[20:57] <brobostigon> anyone familer with dokuwiki? how do i change the expiery period to which when you login, it logs you out again?
[21:07] <ahayzen> brobostigon, there is auth_security_timeout (Authentication Security Timeout (seconds)) under the admin section, don't know if that will solve your issue.
[21:07] <brobostigon> ahayzen: what will that option specifically change?
[21:07] <ahayzen> i'm not sure
[21:08] <brobostigon> ok, i wont chan ge it then.
[21:08] <ahayzen> just seemed to be the only one which looked close to your question when scanning through the config
[21:08] <brobostigon> ok.
[23:54] <JamesTait> popey: 5.14.0-0ubuntu1 on Precise, the Alt-` switch with two terminal windows just switches (no pop-up) when I do it quickly.
[23:54] <JamesTait> popey: nvidia GT330M with binary blob drivers.
[23:55]  * christel puts JamesTait to bed
[23:55]  * JamesTait splutters
[23:55] <christel> i er.. it is late you should be in bed!
[23:55] <christel> :P
[23:56] <JamesTait> I probably should.
[23:56]  * christel nods
[23:56] <JamesTait> I have a strained relationship with sleep.
[23:56] <christel> aww whys that
[23:56] <JamesTait> Just one more thing to try, then I'll go to bed, I promise.
[23:56] <JamesTait> (That's why)
[23:57] <christel> hahaha
[23:57] <christel> have you tried going to bed? :D
[23:58] <JamesTait> Don't be daft, why would I want to do that? :)
[23:58] <christel> dunno, might help develop a better relationship with sleep ;)
[23:59] <JamesTait> I don't really know why, I just seem to have this notion that there's so much left to discover, improve, fix, etc., that sleep seems like time wasted.
[23:59] <JamesTait> I know it's necessary and all the rest of it, but I just seem to have this mental block.
[23:59] <christel> haha