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philballewTime has us all down02:16
philballewbkerensa, Looks cool02:22
bkerensaphilballew: ?02:22
philballewthe link you sent bkerensa02:27
bkerensaphilballew: oh yeah02:44
bkerensa;)02:44
bkerensastay tuned02:44
philballewalright!02:44
* philballew waits02:44
bkerensamuch hacking needs to occur02:49
bkerensa:P02:49
akkMuch hacking always sounds fun.02:54
philballewHacking. I hear thats illegal!03:11
pleia2philballew needs to read his OSCON t-shrit03:11
pleia2t-shirt too03:11
akkWhat do the shirts say?03:12
pleia2"hack isn't a four letter word"03:12
akkNice! \o/03:12
akk(if technically incorrect :)03:12
pleia2I think that makes it more amusing!03:13
pleia2my ceiling fan randomly shuts off03:13
pleia2it's on a remote, so my first suspicion was that someone else in the building has one too and we are having loads of fun controlling each others fans03:13
pleia2but I don't know03:14
akkIs the remote radio?03:17
akkI thought those usually used IR, but that wouldn't go through walls.03:17
pleia2hm, I'm not sure03:18
pleia2I should probably look up what it is, it came with the condo and we have none of the documentation03:18
philballewMight be a power issue03:22
akkor motor overheating or something03:23
pleia2yeah, it's a recent development so I'm thinking it's some kind of hardware failure03:25
philballewId get a multi meater and check myself03:34
philballewMaybe the fan company has an irc channel :)03:34
pleia2lol03:40
MarkDudephilballew, MarkDude has some pics of you from OSCON that are complete WIN08:15
MarkDudePhil approved08:15
philballewsounds about right MarkDude , where are they?08:33
MarkDudeNot posted yet08:33
* MarkDude took like 500+ pics while there08:33
MarkDudegoing thru and picking the best takes a while08:33
philballewthats good as I took none08:34
* MarkDude knows he is going to get the question- what is the deal with the pics of the cartoon hotdog with everyone/everywhere08:40
MarkDudeThe pics with the Beefy Miracle in the Ubuntu booth hoding the Juju swag = EPIC08:44
philballewwhen juju comes to Windows MarkDude can start using it :)08:48
MarkDuderofl08:49
philballewDont hurt yourself08:50
bkerensalol15:18
MarkDudepleia2, ping16:18
* MarkDude just found out that my talk was given ok for FOScon16:18
pleia2MarkDude: congrats :)16:18
MarkDudeBesides running up steps like Rocky, I heard I need to brush up on my profanity usage16:18
pleia2lol16:19
bkerensaheh16:19
* MarkDude kids 16:19
pleia2you're italian, it'll come naturally once you cross into the philly border16:19
bkerensaI'm getting a Chevy Volt Klout Perk today :)16:19
bkerensathey deliver the car at 11 :D16:19
pleia2MarkDude: also, a must visit: http://italianmarketphilly.org/16:19
darthrobotTitle: [South 9th Street Italian Market - Philadelphia, PA]16:19
MarkDudebkerensa, I kept telling people you would pass me towards end of year, you are doing so SOONER than I guessed16:20
bkerensapleia2: yeah he is italian and sadly..... somewhere down the line the Terranovas and Canciamillas mixed :P16:20
MarkDudebkerensa, - prolly kept your ancestors alive16:20
MarkDude:D16:20
pleia2lol16:20
pleia2the former leader of the NJ LoCo is a Terranova, they're everywhere16:21
bkerensayeah16:21
bkerensahttp://www.ellisisland.org/search/matchMore.asp?LNM=CANCIAMILLA&PLNM=CANCIAMILLA&first_kind=1&kind=exact&offset=0&dwpdone=116:21
darthrobotTitle: [Ellis Island - FREE Port of New York Passenger Records Search]16:21
* MarkDude has spoke with Joe16:21
bkerensahttp://www.ellisisland.org/search/matchMore.asp?LNM=TERRANOVA&PLNM=TERRANOVA&first_kind=1&kind=exact&offset=0&dwpdone=116:21
darthrobotTitle: [Ellis Island - FREE Port of New York Passenger Records Search]16:21
bkerensaSame province of Sicily16:22
* MarkDude has seen the records of the boats they came from16:22
bkerensaPalermo, Travia16:22
bkerensaTrabia*16:22
MarkDudeDont forget- Sicily had a town named Terranova16:22
bkerensaI was telling my grandmother last night that since her parents came from Sicily she could easily get citizenship16:22
bkerensaHer Response: Who would want to live there16:22
bkerensa:P16:23
pleia2lol16:23
pleia2my ex-husband's family is from the Abruzzo region, italy italian relatives would visit sometimes and always invited us over16:24
pleia2never went though :(16:24
* MarkDude only speaks Italian with his hands16:25
pleia2it's ok, they all speak english16:25
* MarkDude watched a few talks with my Dad last night- he noticed how much I wave my hands around16:26
bkerensaMarkDude: So you know how I was telling you my family the Lima's and Canciamillas own Mortuaries well they "owned" I guess 716:26
bkerensahttp://www.limacampagnamortuaries.net/locations-lima-sanjose-ca.html16:26
MarkDudeItalian market looks like fun place to go16:26
darthrobotTitle: [Locations, Lima Campagna & Alameda Mission Chapel, San Jose, CA]16:26
bkerensawe still have like family plots so were guaranteed a spot :P16:26
MarkDudelol16:26
* MarkDude found some Terranovas in Philly- that are 3rd generation morticians16:27
pleia2hehe16:27
MarkDudeMakes sense- like hmmmm this other work looks risky16:27
bkerensathen there is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Canciamilla16:27
darthrobotTitle: [Joe Canciamilla - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia]16:27
MarkDudedead people happen- looks safer16:27
bkerensawho was a California lawmaker16:27
bkerensathats my grandmother's brothers son16:27
bkerensa;p16:27
MarkDudeInteresting how these folks were on some sides in shadows- and on the other side- lawmakers, labor organizers, etc16:28
bkerensaMarkDude: yeah my uncle joe (my grandmothers brother) (this guy: https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/230319_10150189392243160_8045024_n.jpg )16:29
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bkerensahe used to talk about them all the time16:29
* MarkDude is sure we have a few that are import/export folks, and most likely hangout in *legitimate business social clubs*16:29
bkerensaHe would be like "The Lima's are mobsters they are no good" :P16:29
pleia2hehe16:30
* MarkDude never heard the *M* word much16:30
bkerensaI guess at one point one of the Canciamillas went to work for the Lima's and saw something that was not good and wanted to stop working for them and was not allowed so uncle joe had to tell them to let the guy go :P16:30
MarkDudethey are always called *The Family*16:30
MarkDudeSimilar to calling him  *Mr Sinatra*16:31
pleia2and "uncles" who aren't uncles16:31
bkerensapleia2: or cousins that are not cousins16:31
bkerensa;p16:31
bkerensapleia2: you going to have a marching band at your wedding?16:31
bkerensa:D16:31
bkerensalike this https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/250165_10150189392123160_6440667_n.jpg16:31
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pleia2bkerensa: no :)16:32
pleia2reminds me, one of the venues we looked at in philly was dripping with italian, and the wedding coordinator was MarkDude East16:32
bkerensa:D16:32
bkerensaMy cousin (real cousin) got married for like 3 weeks16:33
bkerensait was great :P16:33
pleia2we passed on that one and went with a country club that offers a bit more diverse options culturally ;)16:33
bkerensanice16:33
bkerensa:D16:33
bkerensapleia2: should have MarkDude officiate in the penguin suit :P16:34
MarkDudebkerensa, I have already offered my Minister services16:34
MarkDudeThey were declined16:34
pleia2maybe if we had gone the elope-in-vegas route ;)16:34
pleia2we have a rabbi and are doing this pretty traditionally16:35
MarkDudeEven tho I had great ideas- Star Wars theme, etc16:35
bkerensapleia2: a rabbi? :D do you get to do the chair dance thing?16:35
* MarkDude was willing to do research on that also- breaking a glass?16:35
pleia2hehe16:36
pleia2bkerensa: yes16:36
bkerensaBreaking a glass and dancing on chairs sounds epic16:36
pleia2it won't be an overwhelmingly jewish ceremony (I'm not converting and most of the guests aren't jewish) but we're doing a few of the key things16:36
MarkDudeSorta Jewish-lite?16:37
bkerensaheh16:37
pleia2something like that16:38
MarkDudeBut no shellfish or pork.16:38
bkerensaWow16:39
bkerensaLarry Ellison is Jewish16:39
bkerensawho knew16:39
pleia2certainly no pork, the shellfish and meat+cheese is still under consideration16:39
pleia2(we don't eat pork, but we eat the other stuff and the rabbi doesn't keep kosher)16:39
bkerensapleia2: Pork is overrated anyways ;p16:40
pleia2I miss pepperoni and most breakfast sandwiches, but otherwise it's mostly ok16:40
pleia2I always thought the meat+dairy thing was weird, until I learned the actual phrasing "don't eat meat boiled in it's mothers milk" and I understood, and started feeling a but guilty about cheeseburgers :)16:41
bkerensapleia2: so u dont eat pork at all? like not even when your on a trip?16:41
pleia2bkerensa: sometimes pepperoni happens, but yeah I usually avoid it16:41
bkerensaNo bacon happens? :P16:41
pleia2no bacon16:42
bkerensaThe Cheese Burger part would be hard for me to abstain from16:42
MarkDudeRichard went other direction last year- for Xmas- he had porkribs, and next day lobster- and just for fun I think they put milk on it16:42
bkerensalol16:42
bkerensaMarkDude: so you coming to LFNW next time?16:43
bkerensaif you make it to Portland you can road trip up with the LoCo16:43
pleia2I have also learned that restaurants from culturally muslim backgrounds have awesome menus, no pork :) mmm afghanistani food16:43
* bkerensa wishes LoCo Council would let WA merge into our loco16:43
bkerensa;p16:43
bkerensaWashington went from on life support to totally quiet16:44
pleia2you can work together without merging, PA used to do stuff with NJ all the time16:44
* MarkDude sees pole- will not use it to touch the PNW issue16:44
MarkDudeUnless formally asked16:44
bkerensapleia2: well the problem is no leadership in WA... there is just nobody that wants to organize at all =/16:44
pleia2bkerensa: yeah, that happened to NJ, so PA still invites them out to things *shrug*16:44
pleia2I always sent CDs over the borders too16:45
bkerensaIf only althara was still in WA16:45
pleia2(also up to NY before they were approved)16:45
MarkDudeWell, if you need a Fedora dude to be lead froma  distance- I can try the same thing16:45
MarkDude:D16:45
bkerensaMarkDude: I still am wondering how you arw a Fedora dude? You were running pure Windows 7 without dual boot ;p16:46
* MarkDude misses being lead of a project from a bit away16:46
* pleia2 back2work16:46
* MarkDude bleeds Fedora blue16:46
MarkDudeIssue is Fedora has sorta sucked since F1416:46
MarkDudeWe live so on the edge we cant even use the OS sometimes16:47
bkerensaMarkDude: you should just come back to Ubuntu full time :P sure we dont have money like Shadowdaddy but we got Community ;)16:47
* bkerensa pops Terminator back up and hacks on documentation16:47
MarkDudeWell the offers have been very nice, but I have been givien task of making alocal Fedora community16:48
MarkDudeOne sorta based on Ubuntu Oregon16:48
MarkDudeSince they do such tech stuff16:49
toddcso why not work with azloco?????16:56
toddcprod form az16:56
pleia2I visited PHX but meeting up with AZ folks didn't work out the weeknd I was in town :(16:57
pleia2(and I'm in San Francisco, have to take a plane to AZ :))16:57
akkWhat kind of tech stuff does Ubuntu Or do?16:58
toddcwe have a Big Blue Button server that we want to use for that   http://azlocobbb.banditti.com/ in the near future it is working to share meetings speeches ect16:59
darthrobotTitle: [BigBlueButton -- Open Source Web Conferencing]16:59
pleia2akk: they've done some pretty big (30 people or so) global jams with the local debian developers to fix bugs and things17:02
toddcyes17:02
toddcflash has few bugs but we do have a workaround17:03
pleia2http://web.dodds.net/~vorlon/wiki/blog/Making_jam_from_bugs/17:03
darthrobotTitle: [Making jam from bugs]17:03
MarkDudeakk they do what corporate types call deliverables17:04
MarkDudeAnd a huge amount of them17:04
toddcwe buildt a proxmox server last week and next are planning to move BBB to team hardware vs donated VM for a permanent home17:05
pleia2toddc: cool :)17:05
toddcyou welcome to play and I had been planning to contact CA but since the comments came up :)17:06
philballewtoddc, Where is az are most of the az folks?17:07
bkerensapleia2: yep were having another jam soon... everyone wants to jam so much =/17:07
bkerensaso much jamming17:07
pleia2I need to figure out what my september travel schedule looks like and go from there, I'd really like to do a QA jam again17:08
toddcI/we run BBB  at all events  http://www.azloco.com/?q=node/28   and most are from the Phoenix area but we are starting a second ubuntu hour in Tucson next month17:09
darthrobotTitle: [AZ Team Calender | Ubuntu Arizona LoCo Team]17:09
bkerensaQA Jam? So testing ISO's or other test cases?17:09
pleia2focusing on ISOs for now17:09
bkerensatoddc: nice :D17:09
pleia2did one for natty: http://princessleia.com/journal/?p=419617:09
darthrobotTitle: [Berkeley Natty Global Jam – pleia2's blog]17:09
philballewIm gonna get a Ubuntu hour release party possibly, as well as a global jam in sd. But I need to figure out what bugs to work on.17:09
bkerensaOh btw... folks please run Ubuntu Friendly on your new hardware with 12.0417:10
bkerensa;)17:10
toddcwe can do some hosting for Linux groups17:10
pleia2bkerensa: do you know who is in charge of Friendly these days?17:12
pleia2they had talked at UDS about handing it off to the QA team, but I don't know where that landed17:12
bkerensapleia2: not exactly sure but the data still gets to someone17:12
* pleia2 nods17:13
bkerensamaybe dpm?17:13
akkbkerensa: Is there a way to run u.f. from the cmdline? https://friendly.ubuntu.com/participate/ assumes you're running the default desktop and doesn't say what the app is actually named.17:13
darthrobotTitle: [Ubuntu Friendly | How to participate]17:13
bkerensaakk: Unfortunately no its a GUI app and its called "System Testing"17:14
akkbkerensa: GUI app doesn't mean you can't run it from the cmdline -- but I'd need to know what the binary is named17:14
akki.e. it's /usr/sbin/[something]17:14
akkand I bet it's not /usr/sbin/System\ Testing17:14
akker, bin, not sbin17:15
akkaptitude search friendly and aptitude search system | grep -i test don't give any hints either.17:16
philballewfriendly?17:17
akkDoesn't look like it (at least, no such app is installed here and I don't see bin/friendly in apt-file search).17:18
MarkDudephilballew, WON for best trolling at OSCON, IMHO17:19
MarkDudeHe took a Fedora USB drive, was gonna install Fedora on it- then put Unity on it17:20
pleia2akk: checkbox-qt17:20
MarkDudeRather Epic, and Fedorans were both impressed and amused17:21
pleia2akk: but you're right, it should tell you that on the participate website17:22
akkCool, thanks, pleia2. I'll try installing that.17:22
akk(Later, have to hit the road now)17:22
akkLater all!17:23
bkerensaMarkDude: http://imgur.com/a/EhD0w#0 <-- My Chevy Volt18:34
darthrobotTitle: [Like a boss... Chevy Volt - Imgur]18:34
bkerensa;p18:34
pleia2that perk was tempting, but I live in a city so parking is a problem (not only do I not have an extra spot, no where to plug it in in our garage!18:37
bkerensayeah18:38
bkerensaI get another car next month too18:38
bkerensa:D18:38
bkerensaI get the Acura ILX next month18:39
pleia2not sure what places like mine will do if electric cars catch on, currently electrical outlets in the garage are explictly prohibited in our building18:39
pleia2I suppose some electrical companies will start doing a brisk retrofitting business :)18:40
MarkDudeThat reminds me- one of the pics of bkerensa is epic- I plan on adding monocle and tophat- Like a Sir18:40
pleia2it's not even like this building is old, built in 200418:41
bkerensaMarkDude: eh18:41
bkerensaI dont like the plugging in bit18:41
bkerensawere thinking of buying a Prius18:41
bkerensaalthough I hear there is a new car coming out next year that gets over 100MPG18:42
pleia2bkerensa: I think jono just said you have a monster ego ;)18:42
pleia2(ok, not quite, but I did chuckle)18:42
bkerensa:P18:42
bkerensapleia2: I was poking fun because he said Klout was irrelevant last month18:42
bkerensa;p18:42
pleia2hehe18:42
philballewWhats the best way to troubleshoot s hd that wont mount or show up in fdisk -l?18:49
philballewI tried kicking it, but that did not work, do I figured you people might know a tool...18:50
pleia2is it showing up in the bios?18:52
philballewnot sure. It shows up in dmesg18:54
philballewand errors18:54
pleia2interesting18:54
philballew[1920193.884055] usb 2-2: new full-speed USB device number 11 using uhci_hcd18:54
philballew[1920208.996053] usb 2-2: device descriptor read/64, error -11018:54
philballewIll probably see if I can format it somehow18:55
pleia2are you sure it works?18:55
philballewwell it did 3 days ago18:55
philballewI tried to call wd support, but was given software to run diagnostics with on it, but as always windows only18:57
bkerensalovely.... two helicopters pretty much constantly hovering over my house19:25
bkerensa*shakes fist*19:25
philballewbkerensa, take yours and join them19:34
philballewgood news, I called wd tech support, and they took my email and said there emailing my links to documentation, yet it came in Germen or something of that sort!19:43
* philballew cries 19:43
bkerensapleia2: how is warty?21:20
pleia2bkerensa: looking forward to toursting in SF21:49
bkerensanice23:35
toddclive dos based cd to diag western digital hard drives. Iso so you can burn to cd or usb   http://support.wdc.com/product/download.asp?groupid=602&sid=30&lang=en23:49
darthrobotTitle: [WD Support / Downloads / Legacy Internal / WD Caviar (SATA I)]23:49

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