| ChinnoDog | Aww. No pocket Ubuntu for me. | 00:49 |
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| plurworldinc | hi everyone | 00:51 |
| teddy-dbear | hi | 00:51 |
| plurworldinc | good evening | 00:52 |
| ChinnoDog | hi plurworldinc | 00:52 |
| plurworldinc | did i miss alot last week | 00:52 |
| plurworldinc | hello to you too | 00:52 |
| JonathanD | Hi plurworldinc | 00:52 |
| plurworldinc | I am having some major Gnome issues tonight | 00:53 |
| ChinnoDog | Beat those gnomes into submission | 00:58 |
| plurworldinc | i wish, if i could get them on my screen, right now I am stuck with Unity | 00:59 |
| teddy-dbear | I'm not sure why anyone would want to run gnome3 | 00:59 |
| plurworldinc | I love my Gnome 3, I have found it to be elegant and easy to use. Unity not so much | 01:02 |
| rmg51 | for me there isn't much difference between Unity and Gnome3 | 01:04 |
| plurworldinc | there isn't a huge difference just the little things that matters to me. I like the way Gnome 3 handles multi workspaces. The add ons are nice, but Unity does do a better job with that. | 01:07 |
| ChinnoDog | I am going to finally set up my rebuilt linux box tonight. I need to decide if I am going to use Mint or Ubuntu. I feel obligated to give Unity a chance because pleia2 turns her noes up at Mint. | 01:08 |
| plurworldinc | go Ubuntu!!!! and add Gnome Shell just for kicks | 01:10 |
| rmg51 | then go with xfce | 01:10 |
| plurworldinc | try them all, it's worth seeing the difference for you can see what you like and what will work for you. | 01:12 |
| pleia2 | ChinnoDog: no I don't, you should try out Mint and use it if you like it | 01:18 |
| ChinnoDog | I did try out Mint and I do like. But if Unity is the path to the future I should learn it instead. I know that is an unpopular view in the open source community but it is the only way to concentrate knowledge ala Microsoft | 01:20 |
| plurworldinc | Unity is the new flagship interface for Ubuntu. It's pretty easy to work around and take a little getting use to at first coming off of the Gnome or KDE interface. | 01:22 |
| plurworldinc | Can you install Unity in Mint yet? | 01:23 |
| pleia2 | you can in Fedora, I don't think it's in Mint | 01:23 |
| * rmg51 is waiting for Unity to just go away :P | 01:26 | |
| plurworldinc | i would guess if you can install Synaptic Package Manager in Mint, you should be able to install Unity from there since Mint was based off of Ubuntu | 01:31 |
| InHisName | Would you rather have Metro instead ? | 01:32 |
| plurworldinc | NOT METRO!!!!!!! | 01:32 |
| plurworldinc | as much as I love Gnome 3, Unity has HUD and it's amazing. Plus it would be great to learn how to use for the future | 01:42 |
| waltman | hud = heads up display? | 01:43 |
| plurworldinc | Yes | 01:43 |
| waltman | don't you need special hardware for that, too? | 01:44 |
| pleia2 | no, it works both in Unity 2D and 3D | 01:45 |
| plurworldinc | One of the highlights to Unity is also the growing number of lenses , i am still trying to figure out how that works | 01:51 |
| JonathanD | Tis bedtime. | 01:52 |
| InHisName | ZZZzzzzsssss | 01:54 |
| JonathanD | Goodnight oflks. | 01:55 |
| JonathanD | folsk | 01:55 |
| JonathanD | I give up. | 01:55 |
| JonathanD | Come to fosscon! | 01:55 |
| plurworldinc | when and where | 01:55 |
| JonathanD | August 11th. Philadelphia PA. | 01:58 |
| JonathanD | 8th and callowhill | 01:58 |
| plurworldinc | i just looked it up and I want to go, i will see you there | 01:58 |
| JonathanD | plurworldinc: make sure you register, and invite your friends. | 01:59 |
| waltman | ubuntu's telling me "5 packages can be updated." You mean it's downloading things on its own? | 02:00 |
| waltman | do I still have to run apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade, or just the latter? | 02:01 |
| pleia2 | the update manager does an apt-get update regularly (daily or something) | 02:01 |
| plurworldinc | i am on the site right now and I am planning on bring my father in law since he was the one to teach me all about Linux and Open Source software | 02:01 |
| waltman | pleia2: cool, so then I just need to do dist-upgrade? | 02:01 |
| pleia2 | waltman: yeah | 02:01 |
| waltman | Ubuntu is so helpful! | 02:03 |
| plurworldinc | now are you doing a fresh install of Ubuntu | 02:08 |
| waltman | Not exactly. Last week I got a linode in anticipation of switching my home network from dsl to comcast. The linode's running the latest ubuntu. | 02:10 |
| plurworldinc | ok, | 02:23 |
| waltman | Things seem to be working, mostly, but it's kludgier than I'd like. | 02:34 |
| plurworldinc | good night everyone | 02:41 |
| pleia2 | waltman: oh, heh, I still use Debian for servers | 02:58 |
| pleia2 | (except the ubuntupennsylvania.org server, because that would be wrong :)) | 02:58 |
| waltman | pleia2: My home box is debian testing. But this gave me an excuse to finally try out ubuntu. | 03:00 |
| * pleia2 nods | 03:01 | |
| jthan | waltman: "kludgier?" | 03:01 |
| waltman | jthan: Well, one accepts a certain level of kludge. | 03:02 |
| jthan | Can you define that word, my friend? | 03:05 |
| waltman | http://catb.org/jargon/html/K/kludge.html | 03:06 |
| waltman | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kludge | 03:07 |
| jthan | Thanks. | 03:07 |
| waltman | You've seriously never heard that term before? | 03:07 |
| waltman | It's quite common amount programmers. | 03:08 |
| pleia2 | and not to be confused with "cruft" ;) | 03:09 |
| waltman | No, of course not. Cruft is the residue left behind by kludges. | 03:11 |
| jthan | I never heard that word before. | 03:14 |
| waltman | It's pronounced with a long u, in case you were wondering. :) | 03:22 |
| rmg51 | Morning | 09:24 |
| JonathanD | Morning. | 09:28 |
| waltman | *yawn* | 12:10 |
| jthan | Morning guys! | 14:42 |
| jthan | Who has a raspberry pi | 16:22 |
| cythes | pleia2: You going to be in town for FOSSCON? | 17:16 |
| pleia2 | cythes: unfortunately not | 17:16 |
| JonathanD | She's not cythes :( | 17:16 |
| cythes | Q.Q | 17:16 |
| JonathanD | She doesn't love us anymore ;) | 17:16 |
| jedijf | i think she's going to surprise us | 17:16 |
| JonathanD | She should. | 17:17 |
| pleia2 | my travel budget is about -$2000 :) | 17:17 |
| pleia2 | surprise trip to OSCON didn't help | 17:17 |
| JonathanD | I can provide a crumpled up dollar bill, 3 lifesavers, and a spoon in travel assistance. | 17:18 |
| JonathanD | I'm not sure if the spoon is used or not. | 17:18 |
| JonathanD | I'm not sure why I had a spoon in my pocket actually. | 17:18 |
| cythes | I have 125$ + another 110$ on the way from the CDC lol | 17:20 |
| jedijf | pleia2: i know the feeling, new pool, 2 new bathrooms, and the main sewer pipe just blew so have to excavate front lawn - 50k ....*gone* poof | 17:20 |
| JonathanD | roku | 17:21 |
| JonathanD | on woot | 17:21 |
| JonathanD | #40 | 17:21 |
| JonathanD | $40 | 17:21 |
| pleia2 | jedijf: ouch | 17:21 |
| JonathanD | jedijf: yikes... | 17:21 |
| jedijf | oh yeah, and lightening a week ago blew fios - tivo and one other little kitchen tv | 17:21 |
| jedijf | 5 minutes after i arrived home from HOPE | 17:22 |
| jedijf | boom | 17:22 |
| cythes | Nothing like listning to the sherlock holmes soundtrack while writing code lol | 17:23 |
| jedijf | not that bad though 35k was pool | 17:23 |
| jedijf | bathroom guy almost had a heart attack when Cindy told him she flushed toilet and it came up through the new tub - glad i was at work | 17:25 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 17:26 |
| jedijf | the timing is just insane...too many projects at once - still waiting for peco and new fence stuff to get pool approved (swimming anyway) | 17:26 |
| pleia2 | :) | 17:26 |
| pleia2 | July wasn't actually supposed to be a busy month for me, but it exploded into much insanity | 17:27 |
| jedijf | it was good though, that award and some of the posts about it are insane...i am like i wish i knew..heh, i do | 17:27 |
| pleia2 | it was good :) | 17:28 |
| jedijf | and a new krumbauch too | 17:28 |
| jedijf | yeah, busy good month for pleia2 | 17:29 |
| pleia2 | he's so cute | 17:29 |
| waltman | pleia2: did they at least give you a conference pass since they were giving you an award? | 19:11 |
| pleia2 | waltman: yes :) I could have attended the whole week if I wanted (couldn't get the time off in such short notice, especially since I was coming back from *another* trip when I found out) | 19:11 |
| waltman | nice! | 19:12 |
| waltman | I wish I'd gone this year. | 19:12 |
| waltman | I'm feeling the need to get away somewhere. | 19:12 |
| waltman | Portland's awesome. | 19:12 |
| JonathanD | pleia2: jedijf will come pick you up and drive you here for fosscon. | 19:12 |
| JonathanD | Right jedijf? | 19:12 |
| pleia2 | I have to be honest, aside from the keynotes you can get similar quality talks at the likes of Ohio LinuxFest and SCaLE | 19:12 |
| pleia2 | (and those are much cheaper) | 19:12 |
| pleia2 | and the expo at SCaLE is epic | 19:13 |
| waltman | where's SCaLE? Southern California? | 19:13 |
| pleia2 | yeah, los angeles | 19:13 |
| pleia2 | did you know John Kirk lives in LA now? it was weird seeing him at SCaLE :) | 19:14 |
| waltman | that sounds vaguely familiar | 19:15 |
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