[00:04] <ochosi> anyhoo, time to go to bed
[00:04] <ochosi> night pleia2 !
[00:05] <pleia2> good night :)
[00:05] <Unit193> Good night.
[04:07] <micahg> hrm, I seem to have forgotten to look into paring down the ISOs...
[04:07] <micahg> wow, we're at 800MB now :(
[04:29] <micahg> Qt got pulled into the image, I've blacklisted the package that was pulling it in (ubuntu-sso-client-qt), so we have no Ubuntu SSO client anymore as the GTK version is gone
[07:37] <knome> micahg, yay, Qt ;)
[07:38] <Unit193> Hey! Now VLC would barely add anything. ;)
[07:39] <knome> uaaargh
[08:26] <mr_pouit> ochosi: I played with that yesterday, you can lock the screen with dbus-send (if we want to modify xflock4/xfpm/xfce4-panel for that it's easy), but it shows the greeter. There are functions to know whether the session has been locked to display it in a special way in the greeter, but it needs code.
[08:26] <mr_pouit> (the code is already in lightdm since 1.1.3)
[08:27] <mr_pouit> it's not worse than xscreensaver tbh
[08:34] <ochosi> ok
[08:34] <ochosi> mr_pouit: the main question is who will write that code
[08:42] <ochosi> but yeah, i would be all for that....
[08:52] <mr_pouit> I could write that for gtk-greeter maybe
[08:54] <ochosi> sounds like one reason to improve gtk-greeter
[08:54] <mr_pouit> It's probably already written for unity-greeter though (or is the plan to switch to gsd-free unity-greeter dead?)
[08:55] <mr_pouit> micahg: thanks, it seems libavcodec made a come back (something's pulling gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg)
[08:59] <ochosi> mr_pouit: that depends on madnick returning i guess (or someone else picking that up)
[09:00] <ochosi> btw, quick info: robert ancell said they already whitelist specific g-s-d plugins, so if we make that list configurable, they'd accept the patch
[09:00] <ochosi> which would mean we could ship an empty white list and get rid of g-s-d that way
[09:07] <mr_pouit> [Xfce4-commits] <xfce4-panel:master> Clock: Add calendar popup to clock plugin (bug #9034).
[09:07] <mr_pouit> wooo
[09:09] <ochosi> wait, so we can scrap the datetime plugin?
[09:09] <ochosi> iirc clock is builtin, right?
[09:10] <mr_pouit> ochosi: yep (though it's only in master right now)
[09:11] <mr_pouit> and I think it also uses the ominous frame :P
[09:11] <mr_pouit> s/ominous/not-greybird-friendly/
[09:11] <ochosi> oooh no...
[09:11] <ochosi> well i can now make the calendar bright, what do i care :)
[09:11] <mr_pouit> haha
[09:12] <ochosi> i guess a bugreport is in order
[09:12] <ochosi> but first breakfast
[14:08] <micahg> mr_pouit: oh, that's webkit, I can fix
[14:55] <micahg> mr_pouit: I think I might just have to blacklist it for alpha3, although, I think that we're allowed to ship it, just not press it on images
[15:10] <knome> astraljava, you going to send some call for testing mails for a3?
[16:50] <pleia2> no a3 images yet?
[17:08] <knome> pleia2, #ubuntu-release ;)
[17:08]  * pleia2 joins
[17:08] <knome> i mean, i don't know if there's something special, but that's the place to ask
[17:08]  * knome has a headache
[17:09] <pleia2> aw
[17:09] <knome> yeah, that sucks so big time
[17:13] <micahg> idk, there were some images for other flavors, but there have been a few rebuilds already
[17:15]  * micahg sees nothing for xubuntu yet
[17:15] <knome> gnnaaah
[17:15] <knome> i just noticed it's again testing day and my head hurts :(
[17:15] <micahg> ah, it's missing in the rebuild commands, /me pokes
[17:15] <pleia2> thanks micahg 
[17:15] <knome> ta micahg 
[17:17] <micahg> we might end up 50MB over for alpha3 though, idk if my webkit upload will get in
[17:17] <knome> over in a3 isn't bad, over in final is different ;)
[17:17] <knome> maybe try not to be oversized with betas
[17:18] <micahg> ah, I can blacklist -ffmpeg, let me do that so we catch it on the respins
[17:20] <micahg> ok, so we should be back to ~740MB or less hopefully with Qt and ffmeg gone
[17:20] <micahg> *ffmpeg
[17:20] <knome>  :)
[17:21] <micahg> still not sure what else we can drop, but we'll see later
[17:21] <knome> yeah, maybe schedule some time togehter
[17:21] <knome> together too
[17:21] <micahg> gimp needs webkit-gtk2 for the help browser which I guess is important
[17:21] <knome> but afk now, try to get my head in shape
[17:21] <knome> ->
[17:32] <genii-around> Heh. When I parted ~13 hours ago: "wow we're at 800MB now"  first line on join: "... so we should be back to ~740MB or less hopefully ..."
[17:33] <pleia2> micahg is a superhero :)
[17:34]  * micahg ducks into a phone booth
[17:42] <genii-around> 60MB is a pretty impressive cut, for sure!
[17:46] <micahg> well, the increase was accidental, it was a matter of finding it and getting rid of it
[17:46] <micahg> in both cases, I just ended up blacklisting the binaries that were pulling in whole trees of stuff we don't want
[18:30] <micahg> hrm, maybe not, -bad codes are pulling in a whole audio stack on the live image...not sure where we'll end up, but images should be coming in a few hours
[18:31] <micahg> s/codes/codecs/
[18:31] <knome> good
[19:16] <pleia2> 12:12:39 < skaet> micahg, ^ Xubuntu alternates available to try now.
[19:20] <pleia2> heh, I started the zsync and then went to work on other stuff and am all "why is my internet connection so slow?"
[19:20] <pleia2> my brain is awesome
[19:21] <Unit193> Internet doesn't really slow down, it's the computer. :(
[20:16] <pleia2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-meta/+bug/1028611
[20:17] <pleia2> fail :(
[20:17]  * pleia2 lets it finish installing
[20:43] <pleia2> and when I try with a VM it seems to work, except bug 1016925 has returned
[20:50] <pleia2> sorry for breaking all the things
[20:53] <micahg> pleia2: hrm, that should be fixed...are you sure you have the latest image?
[20:55] <pleia2> 4b645e2a7cb984234819fc398779f67c
[20:55] <pleia2> looks to be the most current one
[20:55] <pleia2> I think my first bug may be unetbootin related
[21:08] <micahg> hrm
[21:13] <micahg> desktop image coming soon
[21:15] <micahg> pleia2: thanks, I blacklisted the wrong binary, should be fixed on the next respin
[21:15] <micahg> let's see if anything else needs fixing
[21:15] <pleia2> great :)
[21:17] <micahg> hrm, blacklist isn't working, Qt is still there
[21:35] <Unit193> pleia2: You can resync. :D
[21:52] <Unit193> Seems it's pointless to resync as there's another image that'll come up.
[21:53] <pleia2> I think the desktop ones are ready, I'll resync alt when the new one comes
[21:56] <Unit193> http://pad.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-release
[23:41] <pleia2> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/7640334336
[23:41] <pleia2> pins!
[23:44] <GridCube> oooo they be nice