[04:03] <hba> hi guys
[04:04] <hba> is anyone alive ther/
[04:04] <hba> ?
[04:20] <JoseeAntonioR> hi, hba
[04:20] <hba> hey hi josee
[04:20] <hba> good that someone is there :)
[04:21] <hba> I've installed Ubuntu 10.04.3 on my dell laptop
[04:22] <hba> lshw -html > file.html shows some of the columns red colored
[04:22] <hba> and the brightness shortcuts does not work
[14:34] <hba> guys...please help me
[14:34] <hba> if someone can
[14:34] <hba> function key with my ubuntu 10.04 on dell vostro 1450 doesnt :(
[14:35] <hba> and im not able to find ANY solution for this
[14:35] <hba> there is NO graphic card in the laptop
[14:37] <hba> any pros here?
[14:39] <Blazemore|Work> Sorry back up... what are you doing? What are you expecting to happen? And what actually happens?
[14:39] <Blazemore|Work> I think you accidentally a verb, you see
[14:39] <Blazemore|Work> I have a similar Dell laptop so I might be able to help you
[14:40] <Blazemore|Work> Dell Vostro laptops use integrated graphics, which means you don't have a seperate graphics card. The graphics processing is done on a particular part of the processor
[14:40] <Blazemore|Work> hba
[14:41] <hba> ok
[14:41] <hba> so how to I proceed with it
[14:41] <Blazemore|Work> What is the problem?
[14:41] <hba> lshw -html > file.html shows "VGA compatible controller" in red
[14:42] <hba> im not able to change the brightness
[14:42] <Blazemore|Work> What are you running on it? Why are you running Ubuntu 10.04?
[14:42] <Blazemore|Work> Ubuntu 11.04 onwards are actually certified for that laptop
[14:42] <Blazemore|Work> http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201104-7889/
[14:43] <hba> i gave a try with 12.04 and it jus .. sucks with unity :(
[14:44] <hba> and wanted LTS only
[14:44] <Blazemore|Work> OK. If you're dead set on using the older version of Ubuntu which doesn't work out-of-the-box with your particular laptop, you must be prepared to spend some time and effort fixing it. If you like the old version of Gnome there are a couple of other distros you can try
[14:44] <hba> as I already am using 10.04.3 on my desktop, and really very happy with it
[14:44] <Blazemore|Work> However, let's solve this problem for 10.04
[14:44] <Blazemore|Work> I agree, 10.04 was a really good release
[14:45] <hba> the way it works even with ATA
[14:45] <hba> ok
[14:45] <hba> im all game for fixing it hard way :)
[14:45] <Blazemore|Work> Could you please pose the results of running the command "lsmod" onto paste.ubuntu.com ?
[14:45] <hba> sure
[14:46] <hba> here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1110243/
[14:48] <hba> brb
[14:50] <Blazemore|Work> OK I'm going to get you to try something, but it does involve a reboot
[14:50] <Blazemore|Work> What I need you to do is edit the /etc/default/grub file: "sudo gedit /etc/default/grub"
[14:50] <Blazemore|Work> Look for the line that says GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[14:51] <Blazemore|Work> And change it so it says GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor acpi_osi=Linux"
[14:51] <Blazemore|Work> Then save the file, close the text editor and run the command "sudo update-grub"
[14:51] <Blazemore|Work> Then reboot and test out the brightness keys
[14:51] <Blazemore|Work> Come back here and let me know if it worked
[15:09] <Blazemore|Work> hba: are you still there?
[15:44] <hba> Blazemore: just back
[15:44] <hba> let me just follow what u said
[15:46] <hba> ok. need to reboot
[15:48] <Blazemore|Work> £10 says he doesn't come back because it worked
[15:49] <hba> Blazemore: no luck :(
[15:50] <hba> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor acpi_osi=Linux"
[15:50] <hba> @Blazemore plz reply...
[15:52] <Blazemore|Work> Hello
[15:52] <hba> hi
[15:52] <Blazemore|Work> OK give me a minute
[15:52] <hba> ok sure
[15:53] <Blazemore|Work> OK do you know how to add a PPA? It's OK if not
[15:54] <hba> i know
[15:54] <Blazemore|Work> Well, either way, run the command " sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kamalmostafa/linux-kamal-mjgbacklight "
[15:54] <Blazemore|Work> Then do "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y"
[15:55] <Blazemore|Work> Then, (sorry), it's best to edit that /etc/default/grub file again, remove "acpi_backlight=vendor acpi_osi=Linux"
[15:55] <Blazemore|Work> Then run "sudo update-grub" and reboot
[15:55] <Blazemore|Work> SO basically we're reverting the changes we tried before, and installing the updates from this PPA
[15:56] <hba> ok....
[15:56] <hba> hope its for gnome ;) i just saw letter 'k' in there ;-)
[15:57] <Blazemore|Work> Should be linux, linux-meta and gnome-power-manager
[15:57] <Blazemore|Work> Plus whatever updates you had already, which could be "kernel" something-or-other
[15:59] <hba> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kamalmostafa/linux-kamal-mjgbacklight/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[16:06] <hba> something went wrong here?
[16:07] <hba> @Blazemore u there?
[16:07] <Blazemore|Work> Sorry. Yes it seems that PPA is only for Natty and Maverick sadly
[16:08] <Blazemore|Work> sudo software-properties-gtk, remove the repository or that error will annoy you in future
[16:08] <hba> oops
[16:08] <Blazemore|Work> And I'm fresh out of ideas, sadly. The only thing I can recommend is download something based on Ubuntu + Gnome but more up-to-date, like Linux Mint Mate Edition
[16:08] <Blazemore|Work> http://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=104
[16:09] <Blazemore|Work> If you are dead-set against Unity. Or you can install a classic Gnome session in Ubuntu 12.04
[16:09] <Blazemore|Work> OMG! has a guide here http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed
[16:10] <Blazemore|Work> Actually I'd recommend the latter option
[16:10] <hba> well i tried installing gnome over 12.04 with no luck
[16:11] <hba> and from OMG only
[16:11] <Blazemore|Work> You only need to install the gnome-panel application
[16:11] <Blazemore|Work> And don't forget at the login screen you need to select "Gnome Classic" instead of "Ubuntu"
[16:12] <Blazemore|Work> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/login.jpg
[16:12] <Blazemore|Work> It will remember your setting, and it is done on a per-account basis
[16:13] <hba> but no seriously i already tried that, then I gave up and tried to get used to unity
[16:14] <hba> then got too much fed up....or maybe because Im pretty much used to gnome
[16:19] <Blazemore|Work> You tried gnome-panel
[16:19] <Blazemore|Work> It's the same
[16:19] <Blazemore|Work> Unity is pretty good these days if you make it smaller
[19:29] <hba> @Blazemore : thanks. I installed 12.04 and gnome classic (gnome-panel) looks good
[19:30] <hba> Alt+Tab wasnt working but, then compizconfig did work for me
[19:30] <hba> now im just trying to figure out how to add applets to panel :-(
[21:33] <yeehi> i used tightvnc on a windows host to see the desktop of Ubuntu
[21:34] <yeehi> I would now like to use something like tightvnc on ubuntu to do the same thing - but I don't think I need to install the server... as far as I remember with windows i just needed the client...
[21:34] <yeehi> is tightvnc the best one for ubuntu?
[21:36] <Unit193> Vewing client?  I typically use remmina, but there *should* be one installed by default.
[21:36] <Unit193> x11vnc is what I use for linux VNC server, and UltraVNC for windows.
[21:40] <yeehi> Hi, Unit193!
[21:42] <Unit193> Howdy.
[21:48] <bodhi_zazen> yeehi: I highly suggest FreeNX
[21:50] <Unit193> Could never get a NX working correctly, didn't login to the session right.
[21:52] <yeehi> bodhi_zazen - I can't find FreeNX in synaptic
[21:52] <yeehi> I am using Trisquel...
[21:52] <bodhi_zazen> Yea, you will need to install FreeNX
[21:53] <yeehi> download the debian...
[21:53] <bodhi_zazen> you using Virtualization ?
[21:53] <yeehi> I am on a bare metal installation at the moment
[21:53] <yeehi> but would later install into a virtual machine
[21:53] <bodhi_zazen> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11459903
[21:53] <bodhi_zazen> http://www.humans-enabled.com/2012/04/how-to-install-freenx-server-on-ubuntu.html
[21:54] <yeehi> you know all the best threads!  hehe!
[21:54] <bodhi_zazen> FreeNX is both more secure and much much faster then other VNC clinets
[21:54] <yeehi> I didn't know that
[21:54] <yeehi> I hope it is easy to use - I was amazed at how easy tightvnc was on windows
[21:55] <bodhi_zazen> It is a bit of a pain , but not too bad
[21:55] <yeehi> haha!
[21:55] <yeehi> It will be good for me!
[21:56] <yeehi> so FreeNX is a client - the thing I interface with to bring up an image of the other computers desktop
[21:56] <yeehi> i need to run some other software to make FreeNX work?
[22:38] <Espens1> Hey i recently switched over to ubuntu, and wish to install skype. To my suprise the version i downloaded is very old, some said the version is the same as on skype.com
[22:38] <Espens1> but it isn't for me??
[23:15] <yeehi> Hello! What is some good software to see how long your internet surfing is taking through the various stages / computers it meets ?
[23:16] <yeehi> for example, maybe all your traffic has to get routed through one computer and this is a bottleneck... that sort of thing....