[02:37] <robotfuel> Could I please get an ubuntu irc cloak? My launchpad page is https://launchpad.net/~chris.gagnon
[02:41] <JoseeAntonioR> robotfuel: One second, please
[02:42] <JoseeAntonioR> robotfuel: Ok, everything seems alright, but you'll need to wait for the IRC Council
[02:42] <robotfuel> JoseeAntonioR: when does that happen?
[02:43] <JoseeAntonioR> robotfuel: could you please let me check if any of them is online?
[02:43] <robotfuel> JoseeAntonioR: oh, I thought it might be a meeting :P
[02:43] <JoseeAntonioR> nah, just a matter of waiting
[02:44] <JoseeAntonioR> none of them is online, but if you wait (may take a couple hours) they'll process the request
[02:45] <JoseeAntonioR> AlanBell, topyli, funkyHat, Tm_T, Pici: robotfuel has requested an @ubuntu/member/robotfuel cloak, with the LP link https://launchpad.net/~chris.gagnon, could you please process the request?
[02:53] <robotfuel> I am off to bed, thanks for your help JoseeAntonioR
[02:53] <JoseeAntonioR> np
[16:02] <IdleOne> !no oggcamp is <reply> is a two day unconference on August 18th/19th 2012 - see http://oggcamp.org/
[16:02] <IdleOne> hmm
[16:05] <genii-around> Does lubotu3 use some different db ?
[16:05] <Pici> it should get synced eventually
[16:09] <IdleOne> right but she doesn't no anything about it so
[16:09] <IdleOne> !oggcamp is <reply> is a two day unconference on August 18th/19th 2012 - see http://oggcamp.org/
[16:09] <IdleOne> !oggcamp
[16:10] <IdleOne> she knows now
[16:10] <IdleOne> s/no/know
[17:34] <LoT> how much of an interaction does the IRCC / IRC team have with team channels?
[17:34] <LoT> specifically with "emergency moderation" and the likes
[17:37] <IdleOne> as much or as little as that team wants
[17:38] <LoT> so basically the same as freenode staff, such that "If we're not on the ACL, we won't help." ?
[17:38] <IdleOne> the ircc needs to be added to the access list of course and team channels can always join #ubuntu-ops and ask if some ops would be willing to idle in their channel.
[17:38] <IdleOne> LoT: Not exactly, the IRCC is always willing to help but without access they can't.
[17:38] <LoT> but basically you'd need ACL access first (ChanServ)(
[17:38] <LoT> indeed.
[17:38] <LoT> that basically answers the question
[17:38] <LoT> thanks
[17:38] <IdleOne> right, the ircc can ask staff to add them if they really need it
[17:39] <LoT> indeed, being the contact(s) for the #ubuntu namespace
[17:39] <LoT> thanks, that answers the question
[17:41] <IdleOne> I should point out that freenode staff is also willing to be helpful. I didn't mean to imply they weren't
[17:42] <Fuchs> we aren't
[17:42] <IdleOne> ha
[17:42] <LoT> heh
[17:43] <IdleOne> LoT: yeah, if  team channel needs/wants ops but doesn't have anybody they know, they can join -ops and ask us to join and add a few of us to the ACL.
[17:43] <LoT> IdleOne: as an aside, its kind of hard when the team's ops are both offline :P
[17:44] <LoT> hence the question
[17:44] <LoT> (not the case atm, but at the time it was an issue, well...)
[17:44] <IdleOne> ah, well if that is an ongoing issue the IRCC should be made aware and maybe they offer to help the team.
[17:45] <IdleOne> long story short. We are here to serve.
[17:45] <LoT> indeed.
[17:46] <LoT> IdleOne: i dont see it as a common issue, but the team in question is the beginners team.  strangely enough there's a bunch of people who forward the newbies to -beginners, and there was a spammer in there... um...
[17:46] <LoT> it was either yesterday or two days ago
[17:46] <LoT> and nobody was on, so...
[17:47]  * LoT shrugs
[17:47] <Fuchs> oh, as a sidenote, in order to have staff help, one should put us with the *!*@freenode/staff/*  mask on the ACL. Else we will be quite a bit more hesitant, as we respect channel owners decision to not have us intervene in their channel
[17:47] <Fuchs> unless, of course, network policy is broken or other emergencies
[17:47] <IdleOne> ah, well I believe pleia2 has some influence for that team, maybe mention it to her and she can take it to the people who need to know ?
[17:47] <LoT> Fuchs: indeed, the person who reported the spam said, basically, "To hell with that"
[17:47] <LoT> when i mentioned "poke #freenode"
[17:47] <LoT> Fuchs: since *!*@freenode/staff/* is on the ACL
[17:48] <pleia2> IdleOne: not really anymore, and I don't have ops or anything there
[17:48] <LoT> IdleOne: i can poke bodhi, he's got significant influence as well (i have to poke him about some Debian things anyways0
[17:48] <Fuchs> if it is, and the person is an obvious spammer, chances are  good that we do act if people poke us
[17:48] <IdleOne> pleia2: sorry to have pinged you about it then
[17:48] <Fuchs> we just prefer local ops to handle things if possible. But if none are around, and we are on the ACL, sure, poke us
[17:48] <IdleOne> LoT: well there ya go. :)
[17:48] <LoT> IdleOne: indeed.
[17:49] <IdleOne> I remember being turned off by -beginners when it first started out. I found it a little insulting that I had to jump through hoops to be "accepted" in the team.
[17:50] <IdleOne> I left soon after
[17:50] <LoT> heh
[17:50] <pleia2> they got rid of their membership process, but it's a pretty quiet team these days
[17:52] <IdleOne> I just feel the only membership we should have to apply for is Ubuntu membership. Team/LoCo should be open to all and not require a formal process to be part of.
[17:52] <Unit193> Staff are on the ACL, and have stepped in before.
[17:53] <LjL> IdleOne: so any ubuntu member could be in the ops team without a process? :P
[17:53] <IdleOne> LjL: every rule has an exception of course
[17:53] <IdleOne> being an op is different from being a part of a loco
[17:54] <LoT> indeed
[17:56] <IdleOne> LjL: also, becoming and op in the Ubuntu-ops team requires that the person, if not an Ubuntu member officially, might as well be one because they already have showed they can be.
[17:56] <IdleOne> s/and/an/
[17:57] <IdleOne> Which I believe is probably one of the reasons why the IRCC was given the authority to grant membership :)
[17:58] <IdleOne> Now I must reboot and hope this latest update has not broken my system
[17:58]  * Fuchs wishes IdleOne good luck
[18:02] <IdleOne> You may now uncross your toes. Thank you for your assistance
[18:18] <Tm_T> IdleOne: uh, I need some assistance, some of my toes are on cramp due to holding them crossed too long
[18:19] <Fuchs> Tm_T: I recommend hydrochloric acid
[18:19]  * IdleOne gets the moisturizing cream and bath salts
[18:20] <IdleOne> Tm_T: put your footsies in this tub of boiling water please
[18:22] <Tm_T> IdleOne: salt and pepper, yes?
[18:22]  * LoT puts a bag of uknownsubstance into the boiling water
[18:22] <IdleOne> and a little garlic powder
[18:22] <Tm_T> sounds delicious
[18:22] <Tm_T> smells too!
[18:22]  * IdleOne peels potatoes and carrots too
[18:22] <Fuchs> if you remove the feet, yes. Cheese is eugh :(
[18:22] <IdleOne> We is gonna eat good tonight
[18:23] <Tm_T> IdleOne: ...yes it's good you can get membership from this lot
[20:11] <Unit193> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCCouncil/TeamReports Oi, that's a bit stale...
[20:39] <philballew> To add my current nic to my group with my member cloak, what would I do, or is there any thing I can /msg to find out how?
[20:39] <Fuchs> sure,  /msg nickserv help group
[20:39] <Fuchs> you need to be identified to your account and on the nick you want to group
[20:40] <Fuchs> so   /msg nickserv identify yourmainnick yourpassword     and then the group command