[06:11] <Kilos> hi magespawn et al
[06:11] <magespawn> hi Kilos, the sheep keeping you in the veld?
[06:11] <Kilos> lol no they still locked up till 9am
[06:13] <Kilos> hows your server upgrade magespawn ?
[06:14] <magespawn> done. now i am just removing software i am not using
[06:14] <Kilos> ah
[06:16] <magespawn> I have a piece of hardware that I am trying to identify.
[06:16] <magespawn> Will post a picture. brb
[06:23] <inetpro> good mornings
[06:24] <magespawn> http://ubuntuone.com/2fs6N8QoIt4o0uzMpgSxen <Kilos
[06:29] <magespawn> Kilos google says it is a GSM router. Works as a modem for the pc and has an attachement for a normal telephone.
[06:31] <magespawn> Maaz tell Kilos http://ubuntuone.com/2fs6N8QoIt4o0uzMpgSxen
[06:31] <Maaz> magespawn: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[06:31] <magespawn> Maaz tell Kilos [08:29] (magespawn) Kilos google says it is a GSM router. Works as a modem for the pc and has an attachement for a normal telephone.
[06:31] <Maaz> magespawn: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[06:31] <magespawn> Maaz ty
[06:31] <Maaz> You are welcome magespawn
[06:40] <Squirm> morning
[06:40] <magespawn> Morning Squirm
[08:28] <zeref_work> hmmmm
[08:35] <zeref_work> tumbleweed or superfly: I'm currently working on a small program in python and glade, program is nearly complete and i'd like to begin reading about packaging
[08:36] <zeref_work> Any good packaging guide you know?
[08:37] <zeref_work> *guides
[08:40] <tumbleweed> http://wiki.debian.org/IntroDebianPackaging
[08:44] <zeref_work> thanks tumbleweed 
[08:47] <tumbleweed> I like that guide as it actually teaches you how to understand what's going on, rather than showing a sequence of instructions
[08:50] <zeref_work> oh forgot to mention, I'd like it to be cross platform as well
[08:51] <tumbleweed> packaging varies wildly between distributions
[08:52] <tumbleweed> the best you can do there is just to provide a working setup.py, so people can install from source
[08:52] <tumbleweed> that makes packaging easier, too
[08:54] <zeref_work> so instead of .deb just put everythinging in tar.gz and .zip for Win?
[08:54] <tumbleweed> as well as
[08:54] <tumbleweed> debs are far preferable for Debian/Ubuntu users
[08:55] <tumbleweed> and you can make an MSI installer for windows, although that gets quite tricky
[08:59] <zeref_work> hmmmm, I was initially thinking of making .deb, but then users  of Suse etc won't get, unless they use that alien software to convert to .rpm and such
[08:59] <Guest3264> /hi
[09:00] <zeref_work> but if i guess if users of other disto's like it then they will put it into other formats
[09:10] <Squirm> zeref_work: you realease a .deb, but you also just put up the source as well
[09:10] <Squirm> so it's easy for apt users, but anyone still has access
[09:12] <zeref_work> yep, that's what i finally decided :-D, I'll deal with the packaging for windows later
[09:13] <tumbleweed> as long as the source is there, anyone can use it
[09:13] <tumbleweed> if you have tons of users who use Debian, providing debs will help them
[09:13] <charl> good morning
[09:13] <Maaz> charl: By the way, inetpro on freenode told me "tell charl he should look at "Skype jumps the shark: Seven alternative VoIP services" http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/skype-jumps-the-shark-seven-alternative-voip-services/2488" 14 hours, 34 minutes and 17 seconds ago
[09:13] <tumbleweed> etc.
[09:13] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[09:13]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[09:15] <charl> Maaz: tell inetpro thanks for the link
[09:15] <Maaz> charl: Okay, I'll tell inetpro on freenode
[09:16] <charl> problem is though, ekiga has insane latency, i think it's because they bounce their traffic off servers in the USA
[09:16] <charl> sounds like google talk is the only alternative then
[09:17] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[09:18] <charl> Maaz: thanks
[09:18] <Maaz> charl: Okay :-)
[09:18] <charl> so how's it going with the ballies
[09:24] <inetpro> eh
[09:24] <inetpro> wb charl
[09:27] <inetpro> charl: I wish big corporates would stop buying out talent just to keep innovative solutions for their own benefit
[09:29] <inetpro> like for instance (IIRC) google employing the guy who did the development of voice over xmpp as part of pidgin
[09:29] <zeref_work> inetpro: that statement reminds me of a movie called anti-trust
[09:48] <magespawn> Later guys, going into the game reserve, going off line forna whole 3-4 hours lol.
[10:15] <charl> inetpro: i had an interview with google once, it was an absolute joke
[10:15] <charl> inetpro: you hear all these things about these amazing interview processes...
[10:15] <charl> inetpro: google gave me the worst interview i ever had in my entire life, no kidding
[10:16] <charl> inetpro: after that, they decided to not hire me anyway, so in addition, they wasted my time
[10:16] <charl> gave me some generic BS about getting back to me or something
[10:17]  * tumbleweed had a fairly good interview with them, years ago
[10:17] <tumbleweed> and it took months and months before they got back to me. Apparently they're a bit faster these days, though
[10:17] <charl> was that google ireland or the "proper" google in california?
[10:17] <tumbleweed> ireland, yeah
[10:17] <charl> ah interesting, and the interview was good?
[10:18] <charl> my experience could not have been more opposite
[10:18] <tumbleweed> sure, I enjoyed it
[10:18] <charl> also with ireland
[10:18] <charl> the first thing they asked me was to convert a binary to a decimal, something like 1101
[10:18] <charl> then they asked me to convert a decimal to a hexadecimal
[10:18] <charl> i literally did that back in high school
[10:19] <tumbleweed> ok, that's just stupid
[10:19] <charl> who doesn't know stuff like that, seriously!
[10:19] <charl> i felt quite offended actually
[10:19] <tumbleweed> I got some really hard questions, at least one of which I couldn't answer
[10:19] <charl> i mean, i sent them my CV, they know what my skill set is
[10:19] <tumbleweed> I assume you've read about the "interview anti-loop"? http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2008/03/get-that-job-at-google.html
[10:20] <charl> maybe, dunno, looks like an old post
[10:20] <tumbleweed> it's a steve yegge post, which also means it'll take 4 hours to read
[10:20] <charl> lol
[10:21] <charl> i had one question which was about how to write the most efficient algorithm to count the number of binary 1's in an integer
[10:21] <charl> that was the only good question they asked me, although it's quite hard to answer if you don't know the constraints
[10:22] <charl> like programming language, architecture, etc
[10:22] <charl> i came up with some way of doing it with shifts, then a compare and conditional increment, or something
[10:22] <charl> there was another question which i can remember that i still couldn't believe
[10:23]  * tumbleweed can't remember the questions I got
[10:23] <tumbleweed> counting 1s is vaguely familiar, but that could have been elsewhere too
[10:23] <tumbleweed> the general approach to questions like that is to start stating the constraints yourself
[10:23] <charl> they asked me to arrange in order of how quick they are to access: register, context switch, main memory and magnetic disk
[10:23] <tumbleweed> and you'll be corrected if you pick a poor constraint (hopefully)
[10:23] <charl> that is just plain insulting seriously
[10:24] <tumbleweed> maybe they'd had some poor applicants recently
[10:24] <charl> yeah i don't know
[10:24]  * tumbleweed isn't easily insulted by things liek that
[10:24] <charl> but i got quite pissed
[10:24] <charl> it's like they haven't even went to the trouble of reading my resume or something
[10:24] <charl> on the one side, i don't want to be arrogant, but i take my trade seriously
[10:24] <tumbleweed> but really, only the first interviewer should be probing at things after that
[10:25] <tumbleweed> *like that
[10:25] <charl> yeah
[10:25] <tumbleweed> after that, the other interviewers should have chatted to the ones before them
[10:25] <charl> i got phoned by a couple of different people, all with heavy irish accents
[10:25] <charl> but fine, i got an accent myself, so i'm not one to point any fingers
[10:26] <tumbleweed> phone interviews are hard. both ends are usually on speaker-phone, and you can hardly hear each other
[10:26] <charl> i did find it hard to understand the first guy though
[10:26] <charl> yup
[10:26] <charl> i found the same
[10:26] <charl> the first time they phoned me it was so bad i couldn't hear them, then they phoned me back on a different phone, at least i could hear them
[10:27] <tumbleweed> in-person is nicer, but often also a slog, but a day of back-to-back hour-long interviews is exhausting
[10:27] <charl> at first they wanted to place me at some data centre in the netherlands, next they wanted to push me into development
[10:27] <tumbleweed> err I appear to have repeated myself
[10:27] <charl> completely weird
[10:28] <charl> ok lemme carry on with work...
[11:05] <inetpro> the big thing about big corporates is that there is often way to much internal politics that ends up stifling any kind of innovation
[11:07] <Symmetria> hey, can someone gimme some commandline scripting help here, because Im 2 bloody tired to remeber it, if I wanna do something like for i in {1..20}; do echo $i multipled by 5 = {$i*5}; done 
[11:07] <Symmetria> what is the syntax for that multiplication?
[11:10] <Symmetria> lol never mind found it
[11:11] <tumbleweed> echo $((5 * 2))
[11:12] <inetpro> hmm... 
[11:12] <inetpro> in linux you get seq while in freebsd I normally use jot for counting in a loop
[11:16] <inetpro> not sure whether you can do the * 5 with those
[11:17] <tumbleweed> yes you can
[11:17] <Symmetria> for i in {0..20}; echo $[$i*5]; done
[11:17] <tumbleweed> $[] is a bashism. use $(())
[11:18] <inetpro> for i in {1..20}; do echo $i $(($i * 5));done
[11:18] <tumbleweed> although {x..y} is a zshism, I'm assuming
[11:20] <Symmetria> well, that command I just gave works fine for a quick command on both linux and mac, both running bash 
[11:20] <Symmetria> *shrug* but can use either
[11:20] <Symmetria> heh, just need commands to help quickly generate configs for 200 switches :p
[11:20] <Symmetria> heh, the dhcp config we generated last night was 800 lines long and isnt done yet :(
[11:20] <inetpro> seq 0 5 100
[11:21] <Symmetria> anyway I gotta go, gotta get back to the campus so we can start all over again *sigh* 5am got back to the hotel last night, and will do the same tonight 
[11:21] <inetpro> or rather 'seq 5 5 100' to start with 5
[11:33] <inetpro> oh BTW, you also get the GNU gseq on FreeBSD as part of coreutils
[11:40] <Trixar_za> But what if you don't use the full coreutils?
[11:41] <Trixar_za> (and use mostly BusyBox instead)
[11:47] <inetpro> Trixar_za: then you tell them busybox guys to include seq in the distro :-)
[11:47] <Trixar_za> Btw, I may have had a crowning moment of awesome at 3AM this morning. My Cellphone charger broke and any attempts to rewrite didn't work.
[11:48] <Trixar_za> So I ended up stripping the female terminal's plastic casing and resoldering the wires directly on to the old soldering points
[11:48] <Trixar_za> Then I encased it in putty and wrapped it in insulation tape. Tada, working charger.
[11:49] <inetpro> pragtig!
[11:49] <Trixar_za> Btw, Busybox seems to have a seq command
[11:49] <inetpro> interesting
[11:49] <Trixar_za> Print numbers from FIRST to LAST, in steps of INC.
[11:49] <Trixar_za> FIRST, INC default to 1.
[11:50] <inetpro> that's the one
[11:50] <tumbleweed> coreutils is a GNU thing, though. You can't expect it to be there on other OSs
[11:50] <Trixar_za> http://www.busybox.net/downloads/BusyBox.html
[11:51] <Trixar_za> Kind of expansive, so you have to search the page :P
[11:52] <inetpro> the -w is actually very handy as well
[11:52] <inetpro> as in: seq -w 5 5 100
[11:53] <Trixar_za> Ah, it adds a 0 at the start
[11:53] <inetpro> yep
[11:53] <Trixar_za> Well, zeroes
[11:53] <Trixar_za> :p
[11:53] <Trixar_za> 005, 010, etc
[11:53] <Trixar_za> Most Busybox tools are stripped down coreutils tools, so not everything always works
[11:57] <Trixar_za> Hmmm, the new changes to Busybox looks interesting
[11:58] <Trixar_za> Telnet daemon, although I do have the ftp daemon already
[11:58] <Trixar_za> better man command support
[11:58] <Trixar_za> Nice
[11:59] <tumbleweed> it has a *lot* of cool things
[11:59] <tumbleweed> but most people build a fairly small subset of them
[12:02] <Trixar_za> Well, SliTaz uses most of it's functionality. Tazpanel uses Busybox's built in http daemon with the help of ash scripts to set most things.
[12:02] <Trixar_za> But I do like how Busybox is becoming more and more complete as it goes
[12:03] <Trixar_za> Even the Debian Netboot (and Ubuntu Mini) uses it :P
[12:04] <Trixar_za> Ah
[12:04] <Trixar_za> I just discovered the wonder known as yes
[12:04] <Trixar_za> Which is just basically a loop that prints 'y' the whole time
[12:05] <tumbleweed> :)
[12:05] <tumbleweed> not entirely useful, that
[12:05] <Trixar_za> Only with scripts and programs you can pipe it to I guess
[12:06] <tumbleweed> most programs you'd use it with take a -y option
[12:06] <Trixar_za> Ah
[12:06] <Trixar_za> It loops whatever you give it
[12:06] <Trixar_za> If I go `yes help` it loops help
[12:06] <tumbleweed> and in the vary rare cases where they don't, while true; do echo y; done isn't that bad
[12:07] <Trixar_za> I admit, it is probably the least useful command ever
[12:07] <Trixar_za> :P
[12:09] <Trixar_za> Erik Andersen <andersen@codepoet.org>
[12:09] <Trixar_za>  Tons of new stuff, major rewrite of most of the core apps, tons of new apps as noted in header files. Lots of tedious effort writing these boring docs that nobody is going to actually read.
[12:09] <Trixar_za> Funny, I actually did read his docs
[12:09] <Trixar_za> :P
[12:11] <Trixar_za> What is lzop?
[12:12] <inetpro> and back to the question of Symmetria, you can actually the following as well
[12:12] <inetpro> for i in {5..100..5};do echo $i;done
[12:12] <inetpro> would probably be faster than calling seq
[12:15] <inetpro> Trixar_za: lzop is a compressor similar to gzip
[12:15] <Trixar_za> Hmmm
[12:15] <inetpro> aptitude install lzop
[12:15] <inetpro> http://www.lzop.org/
[12:16] <Trixar_za> run-parts can be useful. You can use it to run daemon scripts in /etc/init.d/ - or where-ever you put them
[12:16] <Trixar_za> That way you don't need to have it scripted, you just move the file to enable/disable it
[12:19] <Trixar_za> Sorry, thinking out loud
[12:21] <Trixar_za> Ha and I just worked out how to set the hardware clock based on localtime rather than UCT!
[12:21] <Trixar_za> Universal Central Time - Not the University :P
[12:22] <Trixar_za> hwclock -wl
[12:30] <superfly> The abbreviation is UTC
[12:31] <Trixar_za> Close enough
[12:32] <Trixar_za> Debian makes it simple to switch over from UTC to Localtime
[12:32] <Trixar_za> But it's really simple once you work it out using hwclock
[12:33] <Trixar_za> just a change from -u to -l
[12:53] <Trixar_za> Hi Kilos
[12:53] <Kilos> hi Trixar_za 
[12:53] <Kilos> looooooong day without power
[12:54] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday all well girl?
[12:54] <Kilos> hey superfly wb
[12:54] <maiatoday> hi Kilos
[12:54] <maiatoday> well thanks and you?
[12:55] <Kilos> good ty
[12:55] <Kilos> hows the thesis thing coming maiatoday ?
[12:55] <Kilos> you winning i hope
[13:01] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee on
[13:01] <inetpro> wb Kilos
[13:01]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[13:04] <Kilos> ty inetpro 
[13:05] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[13:05] <Maaz> Kilos: Yessir
[13:05] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for inetpro and Kilos!
[13:05] <Kilos> good bot
[13:05] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[13:05] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[13:15] <inetpro> Maaz: tks
[13:15] <Maaz> For you I killa de bull
[13:16] <Kilos> hehe
[13:16] <Trixar_za> Hehehe, anti-bulls supporter
[13:17] <Kilos> hopefully sharks supporter
[13:17] <Trixar_za> Only when they play against the Blue Bulls
[13:17] <Trixar_za> That was an epic win
[13:17] <inetpro> lol
[13:18] <Kilos> no i was in toti too long to support anyone else unless its against overseas opponents
[13:18] <Kilos> their last win against the reds was good too
[13:19] <Kilos> all you clever guys, what can one use instead of that special grease on a cpu for the heat sink to stick
[13:19] <Kilos> ?
[13:21] <Trixar_za> You mean thermal paste?
[13:21] <Kilos> ya that stuff
[13:23] <Trixar_za> Not sure, except to use liquid cooling
[13:24] <Trixar_za> google brings up this: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/329905-28-easy-alternative-thermal-paste
[13:24] <Trixar_za> Which is just home made thermal paste
[13:24] <Trixar_za> lol
[13:24] <tonberryE352> temporary or permanent?
[13:25] <Kilos> permanent , i dont wanna buy a whole tube for one cpu
[13:26] <tonberryE352> no one in your area with a tube?
[13:26] <Kilos> one pc repair man said he uses tooth paste
[13:26] <Kilos> no tonberryE352 we miles outa town
[13:28] <Kilos> haha just looked at the link and it says toothpaste as well
[13:29] <Kilos> wonder why mint flavour is better
[13:31] <Trixar_za> It shouldn't matter. It recommends using something like milk of magnesium with the toothpaste though
[13:31] <Trixar_za> Still not a good replacement for thermal paste, but I have heard of people using toothpaste in a pinch and not having trouble
[13:31] <Kilos> yeah i see, this other guy used plain toothpaste
[13:32] <Kilos> milk of magnesia is if the cpu gets heartburn
[13:33] <Trixar_za> What I do remember the one friend of mine did was use a little of the old paste and mixed it with the toothpaste
[13:33] <Trixar_za> Which he then applied. So it was really a toothpaste/thermal paste mix
[13:33] <Kilos> wow its hard as a rock
[13:33] <Kilos> been there years
[13:34] <Kilos> im using the heatsink off a P2 cpu
[14:04] <Trixar_za> Right. Time for Diplomacy (aka kicking ass in such a way that the person actually wants you to kick them)
[14:04] <Kilos> hehe
[14:04] <Kilos> some peeps are kinky and will ask for more
[14:05] <Trixar_za> It's like that song, Sweet Dreams (or whatever it's called)
[14:06] <Trixar_za> Sweet Dreams are made of these, who am I to disagree? I travel the world and the seven seas; everybody is looking for something. Some people want to abuse you, some people want to be abused by you 
[14:06] <Trixar_za> or something like that
[14:06] <Trixar_za> <--- did it from memory
[14:16] <Kilos> lol
[14:16] <Kilos> does thermal paste dry hard tween the cpu and heatsink
[14:16] <Kilos> ?
[14:19] <tonberryE352> depends on the paste
[14:20] <tonberryE352> usually it dries a bit
[14:20] <tonberryE352> but not entirely
[14:20] <tonberryE352> if you are thinking about keeping the heatsink there with thermal paste
[14:20] <tonberryE352> forget it
[14:20] <Kilos> oh then this stuff on the p2 cpu wasnt thermal paste then
[14:20] <tonberryE352> some of the older ones use a more gluelike paste
[14:21] <Kilos> almost like a double side tape kinda sticker thing
[14:21] <tonberryE352> thermal pad
[14:21] <tonberryE352> iirc
[14:21] <Trixar_za> Oh, I remember that glue-like paste
[14:21] <Kilos> iirc?
[14:21] <Trixar_za> You sometimes had to scrape it off to replace
[14:21] <tonberryE352> if i recall correctly
[14:22] <Kilos> haha i thought it was some irc client or something
[14:22] <Kilos> ty tonberryE352 
[14:23] <Kilos> this must be a pad.. wonder if there is a way to remove it without breaking it
[14:36] <Trixar_za> Ah ha
[14:37] <Trixar_za> I think I have a proper analogy
[14:37] <Trixar_za> Moving to SliTaz is like moving from a Big City to a small Old American West town
[14:38] <charl> slitaz?
[14:40] <Trixar_za> http://www.slitaz.org/
[14:40] <Trixar_za> IF tank is back
[14:40] <Trixar_za> And it is
[14:40] <Trixar_za> :P
[14:41] <Trixar_za> [13:31:51] [hylian] This is why I use ubuntu. I love your ditro, but if it isn't going to give me a desktop easily, or have some decent support, then it will die. I like slitaz, I don't want it to die. Please consider my words of advice. [20:37:36]
[14:41] <Trixar_za> Trying to figure out a good analogy to explain why THIS is an unfair statement
[14:42] <Trixar_za> Using a small old west towm analogy seems good
[14:43] <Trixar_za> Where members of the community has to take on multiple roles and if you take time to let it grow on you, you'll end up prefering the adventure and beauty of non-city view
[15:13] <Squirm> hello
[15:15] <charl> hi Squirm 
[15:15] <charl> long time no speak to
[15:15] <confluency> It's all fun and games until you discover that your picturesque small town doesn't have electricity, flush toilets or antivenom. ;)
[15:16] <charl> that's exactly the issue
[15:16] <charl> (i grew up in a city but a fairly remote one)
[15:17] <Squirm> confluency: what small town?
[15:17] <Trixar_za> Like charl. That is the issue. People assume there should be electricity, flush toilets and anti-venom, but in a really old west town, that may not exist. So a tourist comes along, points it out loudly and wonders why he's getting shot at.
[15:18] <confluency> I don't think shooting at people for pointing out that you are lacking some useful amenities is very constructive.
[15:19] <charl> people who live in small towns often have a "small" mentality
[15:19] <charl> from my experience
[15:20]  * Squirm looks at charl
[15:20] <Squirm> I live in a small town
[15:20] <charl> Squirm: me too :P
[15:20] <Trixar_za> Yes, but it fits the analogy. Small Linux distributions are like that. Especially when newbies point out what's wrong with something publicly.
[15:20] <Trixar_za> That's how flamewars start
[15:20] <Squirm> charl: where abouts?
[15:21] <charl> Squirm: i'm somewhat private about where exactly i live
[15:21] <charl> Squirm: it's a city with about 80K people though
[15:21] <Trixar_za> or should I say, a long drop might work just as well as a flush toilet. Hell, even science tells us that's how we're meant to poop.
[15:21] <charl> not exactly small but small enough
 Squirm: me too :P
 Squirm: it's a city with about 80K people though
[15:21] <Squirm> umm
[15:21] <Squirm> 80k >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> small
[15:21] <confluency> When it comes to minority distros, the metaphorical settlers are often members of a fringe sect who want to get away from established settlements for ideological reasons.
[15:21] <charl> lol ok please tell me how many people are in the town where you live
[15:21] <charl> i am dying to know now
[15:22] <confluency> I'm sorry I started an argument about real small towns. o_O
[15:22] <Squirm> and charl, it's a city with 80k people, it'd be damn hard to find you
[15:22] <charl> no it's actually quite easy (if you know the address) lol
[15:23] <charl> if you want large, go to london
[15:23] <charl> i spent a week there once
[15:23] <Trixar_za> Yeah, but small communities stick together too. Everybody knows everybody else. So they don't take well to people calling their town bad names or attacking their neighbors hard work (since in small communities you often have to do more than one job).
[15:23] <Squirm> I lived there for 6 months
[15:23] <Squirm> charl: Google Maps, -28.812811,29.540412
[15:23] <Trixar_za> I also think this analogy has jumped the shark
[15:23] <Squirm> charl: I'm not asking for your address, curious as to what town
[15:24] <tonberryE352> 80000 a city?
[15:24] <charl> Squirm: so you are not kidding! you are literally in the middle of nowhere
[15:24] <Squirm> Winterton is a hole
[15:24] <charl> Squirm: just east of nowhere and south of ****-knows :P
[15:25] <charl> tonberryE352: it's over 9000!
[15:25] <charl> sorry mandatory meme joke
[15:26] <tonberryE352> more or less everything is
[15:26] <Kilos> hehe ask inetpro how many peeps in the town he came from in northern natal
[15:26] <Kilos> methink 1000 is a lot
[15:26] <Kilos> and utrecht was the same
[15:27] <Squirm> Kilos: you can see my town :P
[15:27] <Trixar_za> Mind you, doesn't help that the founder of the town is an anarchist
[15:27] <Trixar_za> :P
[15:27] <Kilos> but everyone knows everyone
[15:27] <Kilos> Squirm, i have been to winterton
[15:27] <Trixar_za> He even sneaked it into the name. Google Temporary Autonomous Zone
[15:27] <Trixar_za> :P
[15:28] <Kilos> afternoon confluency nice to see you still going on
[15:28] <confluency> Reports of my demise were greatly exaggerated.
[15:28] <Kilos> ha ha ha'
[15:31] <Squirm> bbl
[15:31] <Squirm> going to supper + squash
[15:32] <Kilos> enjosqu
[15:32] <Kilos> enjoy Squirm 
[15:37] <Kilos> bbl
[15:45] <charl> bbl
[15:48] <Trixar_za> bbl 2 I guess
[15:48] <Trixar_za> :P
[16:23] <zeref> dsadadsad
[16:24] <zeref> o0, apologies
[16:24] <Kilos> hehe
[17:24] <Kilos> yo canstudy
[17:24] <Kilos> oops Cantide 
[17:24] <Cantide> haha
[17:25] <Cantide> that's my alter-ego
[17:25] <Cantide> Good evening, KiloStudy ( 1000 x study? )
[17:25] <Kilos> yeah hehe
[17:35] <Kilos> early night for me. sleep tight all of you
[17:39] <Cantide> o_o
[19:47] <magespawn> Good evening all.
[20:17] <magespawn> Night all.
[20:36] <inetpro> hmm...
[20:37] <inetpro> you guys talk about small towns and then?