[00:00] <nkei0> brb, system update is telling me I need to reboot again, perhaps that will fix mine. :?
[00:00] <BarkingFish> escott, I don't suppose you would be able to help me and Demon|Ubuntu, would you?
[00:00] <escott> BarkingFish, haven't been following it.
[00:00] <BarkingFish> I apologise for bugging people, but we're so close now that I can almost smell it.  I am just stuck on the last stage of what we need to do.
[00:01] <genii-around> chrisdku: Does lsmod | grep nv    show the nvidia driver is loaded now?
[00:01] <ghostchick> gld1982ltd, i missed your pms
[00:01] <BarkingFish> okay, escott - tldr version.  Demon|Ubuntu has a wifi device not being picked up, i've found the module and we have it loading on boot - all we need to do is edit /etc/modules.conf to put an install line in it for the device to pick up.
[00:01] <riex> Hello. Someone here how knows how to fix this error. "Module libbnctcl.la could not be loaded: file not found" <- I got that directly from the sbnc log.
[00:01] <chrisdku> genii-around: I ran the command you said to and installing an lbm header package
[00:01] <chrisdku> I looked up the other one it showed and I had it installed
[00:02] <BarkingFish> It's a pci wifi, escott - Intel Centrino Wireless N 1000, VPID 8086:0084, which needs iwl4965 to run
[00:02] <genii-around> chrisdku: Good, you want the one which matches your running kernel, then the nvidia driver can build
[00:02] <chrisdku> I purged the nvidia current and reinstalled it with apt get but I didn't do the header until just now, will it run hopefully on reboot still?
[00:02] <chrisdku> genii-around: or should i purge and reinstall once more
[00:02] <delac> can anyone explain me why LANGUAGE or LANG would override time format set by LC_TIME in locale?
[00:02] <genii-around> chrisdku: If the nvidia-current did not finish because no headers, you have to do the sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current
[00:03] <BarkingFish> i know how to do the lines in modules.conf for a USB device, escott - but not for pci devices
[00:03] <chrisdku> genii-around: it said everything went ok, let me reboot
[00:03] <escott> BarkingFish, so do you need a udev rule?
[00:03] <BarkingFish> I don't know, escott - this is the problem.
[00:03] <ghostchick> gld1982ltd, thanks and the same , keep on the roll of any advances
[00:03] <chrisdku> genii-around: also I ran the command again for the headers and it shows both files still, don't know why, theyre both installed from what i can see
[00:03] <chrisdku> genii-around: don't mind how newb I'm sounding, I'll let this boot up and I'll use the command you stated
[00:03] <BarkingFish> When I set my wifi up, i did mine through ndiswrapper, which automatically wrote the alias for the device, and the modules.conf to install it
[00:04] <kroaken> hi
[00:04] <kroaken> hi
[00:04] <BarkingFish> We have the driver installed now, it's in lsmod, we just need to get the alias for the device set up, and get a line in the modules.conf for it
[00:04] <escott> BarkingFish, i think a udev rule would be the best way. check /lib/udev/rules.d/* for templates and then add a custom rule to /etc/udev/rules.d
[00:05] <BarkingFish> ok, let me take a look.
[00:05] <kroaken> Is there any way of add new fresh repositories with more apps to apt-get app?!?
[00:05] <chrisdku> genii-around: that lsmod command shows two things nv_tco and sata_nv. thats it. I loaded back into my desktop and my resolution is huge. None of the additional drivers say activated
[00:05] <chrisdku> but theres like a million dif ones
[00:05] <chrisdku> genii-around: well like 5
[00:05] <BarkingFish> Sorry for the delay Demon|Ubuntu - I'm working as fast as I can manage here, and I hope you're not inconvenienced by the length of time this is taking.  I will get this working, if it kills me, and in this heat, that's a possibility :D
[00:06] <BarkingFish> thanks escott - I'll check that now
[00:06]  * kroaken Is there any way of add new fresh repositories with more apps to apt-get app?!?
[00:06] <bz> kroaken: man sources.list
[00:06] <genii-around> chrisdku: So the nvidia driver is not loaded, just the other two for your chipset on motherboard. If you have the headers for your kernel installed, then to do the command i gave earlier to reinstall the nvidia-current
[00:06] <chrisdku> genii-around: k
[00:07] <nkei0> escott, I'm having some issues with my wireless too, if you don't mind.  I had my wireless working fine (broadcom chip) using ndiswrapper before.  Upgraded a few packages (was like 130 didn't check them) and now my wlan0 doesn't even show up in iwconfig.  The broadcom chip does still show up on lspci though
[00:07] <BarkingFish> escott, which template would I need?  75-net-description.rules?
[00:07] <escott> nkei0, i think my knowledge of networking related stuff is being oversold
[00:07] <escott> BarkingFish, maybe... its not something i've ever done.
[00:07] <BarkingFish> nkei0, I can help you with ndiswrapper in a moment
[00:08] <escott> BarkingFish, although it seems to be one line after being generated "SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="48:5b:39:8c:06:b8", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth0"
[00:08] <MonkeyDust> kroaken  sudo apt-get update for the latest content of the repos
[00:08] <BarkingFish> can you just tell me if ndiswrapper still knows your device is there, nkei0 - try ndiswrapper -l on the terminal
[00:08] <escott> BarkingFish, thats for my eth0
[00:08] <BarkingFish> oh wow.
[00:08] <nkei0> BarkingFish, Yes, it does show it.
[00:08] <escott> BarkingFish, other than ATTR{address} being the MAC i don't really know what the rest means
[00:09] <kroaken> tkx MonkeyDust
[00:10] <chrisdku> genii-around: only thing that stuck out is it said -original module - no original module exists within the kernel. not sure if thats good or bad. The rest look great. rebooting again
[00:10] <BarkingFish> nkei0, could you just try from a terminal:  sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper   and then wait a moment, and run sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[00:10] <kroaken> but MonkeyDust are there any good reps to add to the list ?
[00:10] <kroaken> once i got a url with the universal ones
[00:10] <BarkingFish> Demon|Ubuntu, still working for you this end, please bear with me :)
[00:10] <kroaken> but i lost it, they were 2 urls only
[00:10] <MonkeyDust> kroaken  the repos are the repos, like the moon is the moon
[00:10] <Demon|Ubuntu> i have plenty to keep me busy ;)
[00:11] <subz3r0> escott, sorry for the delay. here you go: http://www7.pic-upload.de/25.07.12/sy3rwlgu1ms.png
[00:11] <Demon|Ubuntu> interesting
[00:11] <chrisdku> genii-around: same results, big desktop, should I not click the activate button in additional drivers?
[00:11] <genii-around> chrisdku: No
[00:12] <escott> subz3r0, so if you double click on "deactivated" i think it will let you edit that and you can enter the shortcut you want
[00:12] <chrisdku> genii-around: ok
[00:12] <genii-around> chrisdku: Again to see if: lsmod | grep nv    shows nvidia
[00:12] <Demon|Ubuntu> this line is in my /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules: SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="74:e5:0b:0d:6f:28", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="wlan*", NAME="wlan0"
[00:12] <chrisdku> genii-around: same ones as before
[00:12] <genii-around> chrisdku: If not, then nouveau driver may be loading
[00:12] <subz3r0> escott no i cant. when i want to change it back to alt+print it makes Mod2+Alt L
[00:12] <chrisdku> genii-around: so what do I do. I'm totally lost
[00:12] <yaboo> how does one redirect ports on ubuntu using ufw
[00:12] <genii-around> chrisdku: OK. So you need to prevent nouveau driver at boot
[00:13] <genii-around> !nomodeset
[00:13] <Demon|Ubuntu> does that baffle u now BarkingFish ?
[00:13] <escott> subz3r0, ok. you could get to the same options by going through gconf-editor, and typing the string value in. should appear under apps/metacity
[00:13] <MonkeyDust> yaboo  try ip-tables, but i guess ports are redirected in the router
[00:13] <chrisdku> genii-around:  ok
[00:13] <BarkingFish> er, yes it does Demon|Ubuntu
[00:14] <yaboo> MonkeyDust: ok
[00:14] <chrisdku> genii-around: im hoping you're typing out how I do that haha, or I'm stuck
[00:14] <genii-around> chrisdku: Basically... put in /etc/default/grub   the line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="nomodeset"        then sudo update-grub     then sudo update-initramfs -u
[00:14] <chrisdku> genii-around: yay, sec ill do that
[00:14] <genii-around> chrisdku: You need to open that first file with admin rights, etc
[00:14] <subz3r0> escott, tried it with dconf-editor before. no chance. will check gconf...
[00:14] <BarkingFish> Demon|Ubuntu, could you possibly edit that rules file please?
[00:15] <genii-around> chrisdku: afk again, back shortly
[00:15] <chrisdku> genii-around: should I be in recovery console to do that
[00:15] <escott> subz3r0, there are some weird differences between dconf and gconf editors, i havent yet figured out what is going on between the two but the settings all seem to end up in the same place
[00:15] <Demon|Ubuntu> i have it open still, yes
[00:15] <BarkingFish> Demon|Ubuntu, where that file says: DRIVERS=="?*"  could you change that to DRIVERS=="iwl4*" and see if that makes a difference please?
[00:16] <Demon|Ubuntu> edited and saved
[00:16] <BarkingFish> I'm starting to get extremely sleepy now, so someone might need to take over from me in a moment.
[00:16] <Demon|Ubuntu> lemme reboot rq and see what happens
[00:16] <BarkingFish> Could you now reboot please, Demon|Ubuntu - and let me know when you're back! Just ping me by typing my name in the channel :D
[00:17] <escott> BarkingFish, why would a more specific regex work when the global regex didn't. I would think something else in Demon|Ubuntu's line is wrong.
[00:17] <BarkingFish> I'm sorry guys, my epilepsy meds are kicking in and I'm starting to not think straight
[00:17] <romy420> Demon|Ubuntu / BarkingFish i still think that this wireless card needs another (newer) driver, so it's improbable that this nidswrapper thing will work here. look here, makes sense to me and the card is the same:
[00:17] <romy420> http://askubuntu.com/questions/125531/wireless-connection-with-a-centrino-wireless-n-1000-wont-last-longer-than-20-se
[00:17] <Costeelation> !
[00:17] <subz3r0> escott, same here. but maybe you can tell me why I have two of the same entries? First line and last line are the same
[00:18] <escott> subz3r0, i didn't notice that at first. yes strange
[00:18] <subz3r0> escott, as you can see on the screenshot. line 1-2 are the same as the last two
[00:18] <BarkingFish> romy420, if you're able to help the guy, be my guest.  I'm practically asleep here.
[00:18] <escott> subz3r0, yeah i just saw german and skipped over it
[00:18] <BarkingFish> I've done my best for the dude, so if you want to take over - got for your life
[00:18] <Demon|Ubuntu> and i'm back
[00:19] <BarkingFish> And hello
[00:19] <Demon|Ubuntu> still no wireless extensions in iwconfig
[00:19] <romy420> never useed ndiswrappre but as ai said, seems to make sense, what is written there
[00:19] <subz3r0> escott, I've really no clue where this comes from. Maybe "old-stuff" from 10.10 or 11.04? since ive upgraded the system
[00:19] <BarkingFish> he's not using ndiswrapper yet, romy420
[00:19] <BarkingFish> i'm still trying to get him to run on an inbuilt module
[00:19] <chrisdku> genii-around: did what you said, updated grub and everything, now waiting for reboot x.x
[00:19] <BarkingFish> If I was using ndiswrapper, I'd have had the dude up well over an hour ago
[00:19] <romy420> oh i missed that ... maybe we're on the same meds, but ... ot
[00:20] <BarkingFish> Epilim Chrono does strange things to you, romy420
[00:20] <romy420> right, u used the old intel driver
[00:20] <nkei0> BarkingFish, What are the advantages of an inbuilt module as opposed to ndiswrapper?
[00:20] <escott> subz3r0, depending on how much configuration you stood to lose you could nuke .config
[00:20] <romy420> ok, not the same but i can imagine
[00:21] <subz3r0> escott, ?
[00:21] <chrisdku> genii-around: same thing again, huge desktop. the command shows the same files again...
[00:21] <BarkingFish> nkei0, it's an inbuilt module. Using windows stuff to run linux things has some minor disadvantages, such as some parts of the device may not be supported, like rate setting and so on
[00:21] <subz3r0> escott, what will i lose then?
[00:21] <BarkingFish> romy420, I used the only one I could find which google suggested would work with the device
[00:21] <escott> subz3r0, rm -rf ~/.gconf or ~/.config/dconf. you would lose basically all settings in dconf/gconf. next login they would be regenerated as if it were a new install
[00:22] <BarkingFish> iwl4965 is the only one I could physically locate
[00:22] <romy420> i think it should be iwlagn ... the device showed up as n1000intel wireless
[00:23] <genii-around> chrisdku: Very odd.
[00:23] <ghostchick> romy420,  not to say the obvious but did you tried in joker ?
[00:23] <Demon|Ubuntu> how do i get that one and i'll try that
[00:23] <BarkingFish> Demon|Ubuntu, you already have it
[00:24] <chrisdku> genii-around:  all I can say I did was I tried to uninstall all these drivers, corg this and xorg driver that, I just went into package manager and uninstalled them so I could cleanly install the nvidia current
[00:24] <chrisdku> genii-around: dont know if I did anything by doing that
[00:24] <subz3r0> escott, will make a backup and try it. hopefully it will fix this issue. press your thumbs :) brb
[00:24] <genii-around> chrisdku: Are there any files in /etc/modprobe.d/    that have nvidia in the name?
[00:24] <BarkingFish> simply sudo modprobe -r iwl4965 and then sudo modprobe iwlagn  << Demon|Ubuntu
[00:24] <romy420> ghosts do npt exist in my opinion :p
[00:24] <chrisdku> genii-around: let me check
[00:24] <escott> subz3r0, "press your thumbs" i guess thats a german expression... ill have to use that on people
[00:24] <subz3r0> cross your fingers ;)
[00:25] <romy420> pls have a look at the page, it has something to do with diabling the wireless n mode via echoing something somewhere
[00:25] <chrisdku> genii-around:  nvidia-current_hybrid.conf, and nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf
[00:25] <romy420> with the module loaded oc
[00:26] <BarkingFish> druecken deine daumen :)  I haven't heard that expression for years, subz3r0 - the last time was on an episode of Tabaluga-tivi on KiKA
[00:26] <subz3r0> lol
[00:26] <subz3r0> "drück die daumen"
[00:26] <genii-around> chrisdku: Can you please pastebin the contents of /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf
[00:26] <subz3r0> anyway, will test it now. brb =)
[00:26] <daniel__1> is there a way i can compile windows files on linux in C++
[00:27] <Demon|Ubuntu> rebooting again, brb
[00:27] <BarkingFish> ok
[00:27] <escott> daniel__1, the abi is different
[00:27] <daniel__1> is it possible at all or is that a definate no
[00:27] <BarkingFish> if this one doesn't work romy420 - I'm going to risk putting him onto ndiswrapper and see if we can get his wifi up this way round.
[00:28] <BarkingFish> This is one of the reasons I got his device's VPID earlier, I need it to rig him up if all else goes south
[00:28] <chrisdku> genii-around: pastebin.com/L8FjF5y9
[00:28] <nkei0> Hrm.  Upgraded some packages.  Wireless no longer works.  Reinstalled ndiswrapper, reloaded driver.  Broadcom card shows on lspci, network manager still has my wireless connection details, wlan0 no longer shows on iwconfig.  What do?
[00:28] <romy420> good luck, BarkingFish
[00:28] <escott> daniel__1, all things are possible (so long as the conservation of mass energy is followed), but pretty sure crosscompiling for windows is a "you don't want to go there"
[00:28] <daniel__1> ok
[00:28]  * Demon|Ubuntu sighs
[00:29] <BarkingFish> still no joy?
[00:29] <Demon|Ubuntu> iwconfig: no wireless extensions
[00:29] <Demon|Ubuntu> and only shows lo and eth0
[00:29] <escott> daniel__1, but if you want to try this might start you on the path http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9556951/cross-compile-using-gnu-as-to-windows-executable-from-linux-box
[00:29] <BarkingFish> ok, Demon|Ubuntu - do you have any downloaded software for windows, or any windows drivers available for that device?
[00:30] <Demon|Ubuntu> no
[00:30] <genii-around> chrisdku: OK, that looks fine
[00:30] <BarkingFish> you said the device works in windows though, right?
[00:30] <Demon|Ubuntu> yes
[00:30] <Demon|Ubuntu> dunnon where the inf file is located at
[00:31] <BarkingFish> ok. give me a moment, and i'm gonna do some jiggery pokery.  I will get this working tonight, i swear.
[00:31] <genii-around> chrisdku: Please pastebin result of: modprobe -l | grep nvidia
[00:32] <subz3r0> re
[00:32] <chroot> hi, i use malloc allocate some mem for linked list, and then use free, how can check weather the mem is free or not?
[00:33] <qasaur_> So apparetnly
[00:33] <qasaur_> apparently*
[00:33] <subz3r0> escott, well, the keys are set back... but i still have the entries twice... :(
[00:33] <qasaur_> My laptop is much slower in Ubuntu than it is in Windows
[00:33] <chrisdku> genii-around: pastebin.com/cNdW089Z
[00:33] <qasaur_> could it be something to do with like the high performance setting in windows?
[00:33] <BarkingFish> Demon|Ubuntu, could you please download the drivers from Intel's download center, intended for windows XP... the link is: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=19851&ProdId=3229&lang=eng
[00:33] <escott> subz3r0, odd. not sure where else it would be i thought gsettings backed into dcong
[00:33] <qasaur_> Perhaps there is a way to make the CPU go faster or the GPU
[00:33] <BarkingFish> save them onto your desktop please
[00:34] <genii-around> chrisdku: Ok, that all looks fine
[00:34] <Demon|Ubuntu> shouldn't i get the 64-bit version?
[00:35] <subz3r0> another funny thing is, when I use the Barrier-option to make the fonts bugger, it makes em smaller... uhhmm :/
[00:35] <escott> chroot, you don't segfault. thats how you know
[00:35] <genii-around> chrisdku: Do you have an xorg.conf?
[00:35] <subz3r0> "bigger"
[00:35] <chrisdku> genii-around:  no idea
[00:35] <BarkingFish> actually, yes, that would be better since you're on a 64 bit machine
[00:35] <BarkingFish> I didn't spot that, sorry
[00:35] <genii-around> chrisdku: If so, it would be in /etc/X11
[00:35] <BarkingFish> as I said, sleepy :)
[00:36] <Demon|Ubuntu> is ok
[00:36] <BarkingFish> i'm gonna go get a drink of water and something to eat, be back in about 5 minutes or so
[00:36] <chrisdku> ya i have a xorg.conf and a failsafe and a backup
[00:36] <Demon|Ubuntu> does it need to be the xp version?
[00:36] <subz3r0> this <censored> <censored> <censored. <censored> it... :/
[00:36] <genii-around> chrisdku: does:  grep nvidia /etc/X11/xorg.conf     show a result or return to prompt?
[00:37] <subz3r0> well, i'll use my backups :/
[00:37] <subz3r0> brb
[00:37] <BarkingFish> yes, if that's ok, Demon|Ubuntu
[00:37] <chroot> escott: but my memory is 2G, when segfault happens, i need a very larg list
[00:38] <chrisdku_> genii-around: pastebin.com/0eENMNpZ      sorry internet hiccuped
[00:38] <escott> chroot, don't follow
[00:39] <genii-around> chrisdku: That looks fine too.
[00:39] <romy420> Demon|Ubuntu, this is also very interesting, looks like this is a quite common bug and different people report different solutions:
[00:39] <romy420> http://bugzilla.intellinuxwireless.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2314
[00:39] <chrisdku_> genii-around: k
[00:39] <Demon|Ubuntu> am on 3.2 kernel
[00:40] <Demon|Ubuntu> downloaded Wireless_15.2.0_Dx64.exe
[00:40] <chroot> oh, escott, when i use free to free a list, the data field is assigned to zero, but i can still use the head pointer visit the list
[00:40] <chroot> that is wired
[00:42] <genii-around> chrisdku: I am thinking to try:  ctrl-alt-f1   from your desktop. Then login, and: sudo modprobe nvidia-current&& sudo restart lightdm&& exit           then alt-f7   to login screen
[00:42] <escott> chroot, that is an invalid program. char * ptr=malloc(whatever); free(ptr); *ptr; is invalid code and has undefined behavior
[00:42] <chrisdku_> genii-around: doing it now
[00:43] <nkei0> christ this stupid wireless is annoying
[00:43] <Demon|Ubuntu> nkei0, u think?
[00:43] <chrisdku_> genii-around: booted into the login with the proper resolution, whats next. I had horrible fps before too, would love to get this all solved in one go x.x
[00:43] <genii-around> nkei0: Especially Broadcoms
[00:44] <chroot> escott: you mean free(ptr), the result is that ptr is undefined value, unknow
[00:44] <erealz> hello hello
[00:44] <Demon|Ubuntu> i think my intel has been worse
[00:44] <b0nghitter> should i have selected "host a virtual machine" during the ubuntu server 12.04 install if im going to be using Qemu? if so, what do i need to install other than qemu-kvm?
[00:44] <genii-around> chroot: login and see if desktop looks ok
[00:44] <genii-around> chrisdku_: ^
[00:44] <genii-around> tab-complete fail :-(
[00:44] <chrisdku_> genii-around: it does, but it had some weird crash in xfce panel
[00:45] <chrisdku_> genii-around: didn't show anything weird but it said something crashed
[00:45] <nkei0> genii-around, That's what I'm dealing with, ndiswrapper didn't have any issues setting it up if I remember correctly, but I messed up and clicked on the little icon to upgrade all the packages that had updates...  Now my wireless doesn't show up on iwconfig, card shows on lspci though.
[00:45] <genii-around> chrisdku_: OK, that's some other problem
[00:45] <chrisdku_> genii-around: k, ill ignore it for now
[00:45] <chrisdku_> genii-around: ill just load back into unity for now anyways, how can i check the driver is properly installed so i can then check the FPS
[00:46] <chrisdku_> genii-around:  ubuntu i mean not unity
[00:46] <erealz> is the BitchX irc client no longer in development ?
[00:46] <escott> chroot, ptr is an integer and is copied on the stack when passed to free. free dereferences (ie goes to memory location specified by that integer) and does its thing, but your copy of the integer is never touched. so you still have the integer ptr, but its value is now an invalid memory address reference. if you dereference ptr the behavior is undefined
[00:46] <genii-around> chrisdku_: It's still not loading automatically for some reason. We can force it to load by: echo nvidia-current | sudo tee -a /etc/modules     for the next load onwards
[00:46] <wago> im looking to install the official nvidia drivers so i can get my quadro k2000m working... any reason i shouldnt on precise/12.04?
[00:47] <chrisdku_> genii-around: so I'll need to type it in every single time or that does it from here on out, why would it be doing this
[00:47] <genii-around> chrisdku_: I have to leave soon
[00:47] <eph3meral> does anyone know of a good *nix compatible HTTP request generator for GUI? node.js has something like this for CLI, but I'm hoping for something GUI
[00:47] <genii-around> chrisdku_: Just the one time, then every boot onwards the system will load it. But should do a reboot to make sure it takes
[00:48] <escott> chroot, you could certainly "char * ptr=malloc(); free(ptr); printf("char* at %i was just freed",ptr); that is perfectly legal and well defined
[00:48] <chrisdku_> genii-around: k rebooting
[00:48] <BarkingFish> Demon|Ubuntu, apologies for the delay, and thanks for your patience. Do you have that driver file downloaded now?
[00:48] <Demon|Ubuntu> yeah, executable sittin on my ubuntu desktop
[00:48] <chrisdku_> genii-around: how much longer until you leave
[00:48] <chroot> escott: ok, thanks very much, let me test it and understand it.
[00:48] <genii-around> chrisdku_: 10-12 minutes
[00:48] <BarkingFish> it's an executable?
[00:48] <Demon|Ubuntu> yeah
[00:49] <chrisdku_> genii-around: k, so once its up again how do i know everything is how it should be, what command to check everything is running properly
[00:49] <BarkingFish> bother.
[00:49] <romy420> executable = self extracting archive
[00:49] <Demon|Ubuntu> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=21559&ProdId=3229&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%20XP%2064-Bit%20Edition*&DownloadType=Software%20Applications
[00:49] <genii-around> chrisdku_: the: lsmod | grep nvidia    should show it loaded
[00:49] <gaelfx> erealz: I think I heard something about it not being worked on any more, but I can't be sure. irssi is better anyhow ;)
[00:49] <Demon|Ubuntu> something i'd have to run through wine
[00:49] <BarkingFish> yeah, I know what it is, romy420 - what I want is a driver only file
[00:49] <genii-around> chrisdku_: Either by the name nvidia or nvidia-current or nvidia_current
[00:50] <sfears> Demon|Ubuntu: you shouldn't need any windows drivers
[00:50] <romy420> should be possible to open with archive manager
[00:50] <BarkingFish> Demon|Ubuntu, can you see if there is a file on there listed as driver only please, possibly one for IT
[00:50] <chrisdku_> genii-around:  did that command, got nvidia and some numbers
[00:50] <romy420> and ... yeah, iwlagn is the way to go
[00:50] <chrisdku_> genii-around:desktop looks good though
[00:50] <escott> chroot, one of the more challenging things about C is that 90% of the time use after free will work, and that 90% increases to like 99% when testing, but when it fails it fails horribly and unpredictably
[00:50] <BarkingFish> sfears, we've been trying with native drivers, and no dice. I was going to run him up on ndiswrapper - we tried iwlagn and iwl4965, neither run his device
[00:50] <bananapie> ll
[00:51] <nkei0> BarkingFish, Do you think my problem would be fixed if I tried using another program to manage my network instead of the default?  Or would that even matter since wlan0 doesn't show on iwconfig.
[00:51] <genii-around> chrisdku_: OK, cool. That's about as much as I can assist with today
[00:51] <Demon|Ubuntu> ok, got a zip
[00:51] <BarkingFish> excellent. Extract it and let's get you fired up.
[00:51] <BarkingFish> ever used ndiswrapper before?
[00:51] <chrisdku_> genii-around: so that means the driver is properly loaded and working? the nvidia setting shows 302.17 in it
[00:51] <Demon|Ubuntu> i have not
[00:51] <sfears> i have used ndiswrapper
[00:51] <genii-around> chrisdku_: Yes, exactly
[00:52] <sfears> back in ubuntu 7 & 8
[00:52] <chrisdku_> genii-around: k thank you, not sure where to go from here with the low fps on games but ill figure it out eventually , at least it looks like a normal desktop again =)
[00:52] <sfears> ndiswrapper -i /home/user/driver.sys
[00:52] <BarkingFish> Demon|Ubuntu, ok - so you should now have the folder extracted, can you open it and check there's a .inf file in there please?
[00:52] <sfears> then modprobe something
[00:53] <genii-around> chrisdku_: You're welcome.. I hope the xfce panel crash and your low fps get sorted
[00:53] <sfears> BarkingFish: Demon|Ubuntu i think you need the sys file not the inf
[00:53] <BarkingFish> sfears, it's a bit easier now, ndiswrapper does pretty much everything for you in about 5 commands
[00:53] <chrisdku_> genii-around: same =) have a good day
[00:53] <BarkingFish> sfears, I've been using ndiswrapper for about 10 years, you need the .inf file
[00:53] <Demon|Ubuntu> there's quite a few of them
[00:53] <BarkingFish> trust me on that.
[00:53] <deadmund> BarkingFish: is correct, you need the .inf and the .sys
[00:54] <BarkingFish> the sys will be loaded by the .inf as part of the work
[00:54] <deadmund> BarkingFish: But the .sys needs to be there in the same folder right?
[00:54] <BarkingFish> yes
[00:54] <bz> BarkingFish: but but but ndiswrapper has only been around for 8 years
[00:54] <deadmund> haha
[00:54] <deadmund> BarkingFish has a time machine
[00:55] <BarkingFish> 8 years, 10 years, who is counting.  it's 1.55 in the morning and i'm half asleep.
[00:55] <Demon|Ubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109304/
[00:55] <bz> yeah, i mean who cares? 2 years is nothing
[00:55] <chroot> hi, escott , I have tested it
[00:55] <BarkingFish> bz - if you want to be a smart arse, you finish helping him :)
[00:56] <chroot> escott: i use gdb and after i free the ptr, i print the prt, the address is still ox804b008,
[00:57] <Demon|Ubuntu> guess the question now is what INF file?
[00:57] <BarkingFish> ok, Demon|Ubuntu - here's what I want you to do.  in the terminal, type: sudo ndiswrapper -i /home/demonicpagan/Desktop/Disk/XP/Drivers/NETwNx64.INF
[00:58] <Demon|Ubuntu> done
[00:58] <trism> chroot: free doesn't zero the pointer, that's up to you (and not really on topic in this room)
[00:58] <BarkingFish> right - next  sudo ndiswrapper -a 8086:0084 NETwNx64
[00:59] <jwtiyar> how to remove installed app from PPA ?
[00:59] <chroot> so i think, the free(ptr) don't let the ptr to an undefined value, the ptr still exist, but when you allocate mem again, that mem can be used
[00:59] <chroot> trism, am i right?
[00:59] <Demon|Ubuntu> ls: cannot access /etc/ndiswrapper/NETwNx64/: No such file or directory
[00:59] <Demon|Ubuntu> driver 'NETwNx64' is not installed (properly)!
[00:59] <escott> chroot, yes.. the address is not going to change. there just isn't anything there. think of it as a parking deck. you pull and ask for a parking spot so you can park your car (malloc). they give you a receipt (the pointer that is returned). when you are done working you come back and pick up your car and pay (free). you keep the receipt, but that doesn't mean you get to drive away the next car that parks in that spot
[00:59] <sfears> syntax error Demon|Ubuntu
[01:00] <Demon|Ubuntu> where?
[01:01] <jwtiyar> how to remove installed app from PPA ?
[01:01] <BarkingFish> ok - looks like it might be a bad driver then - let's whip that out and try another driver.
[01:01] <chroot> escott: yes, agree, i understand it.
[01:01] <BarkingFish> can you type  sudo ndiswrapper -e NETwNx64 please
[01:01] <Demon|Ubuntu> couldn't delete /etc/ndiswrapper/NETwNx64: No such file or directory
[01:02] <BarkingFish> ok, so it's not installed at all.
[01:02] <BarkingFish> this is odd.
[01:03] <BarkingFish> Let's try again.  sudo ndiswrapper -i /home/demonicpagan/Desktop/Disk/XP/Drivers/NETwNx64.INF
[01:03] <romy420> there seems to be another intel wireless driver around, ppl had success iwth this
[01:03] <romy420> modprobe iwlwifi 11n_disable=1
[01:04] <fishbait> every time i switch worksapce it has no panels in gnome i just upgraded kernel if its pertenent
[01:04] <Demon|Ubuntu> lol, driver netwnx64 is already installed
[01:04] <BarkingFish> the file should be installing.  aha, that's why
[01:04] <fishbait> how do i fix it?
[01:04] <BarkingFish> Demon|Ubuntu, now I know what it's done.
[01:04] <Demon|Ubuntu> ok, what has it done?
[01:04] <BarkingFish> try this: sudo ndiswrapper -a 8086:0084 netwnx64
[01:04] <BarkingFish> the driver name has been decapitalised I think
[01:05] <MK`> Is there a way to tell which processes are in ram, and which are in swap?
[01:05] <Demon|Ubuntu> WARNING: Driver 'netwnx64' will be used for '8086:0084'
[01:05] <Demon|Ubuntu> This is safe _only_ if driver netwnx64 is meant for chip in device 8086:0084
[01:05] <escott> MK`, the question isn't meaningful. processes aren't in RAM. pages are.
[01:06] <BarkingFish> It shouldn't be telling you that. Chances are I've asked you to assign the wrong driver.  There are others, it's possibly the L driver instead of the N.
[01:06] <BarkingFish> That means the id of your device is not in the INF file
[01:06] <BarkingFish> can you run sudo ndiswrapper -e netwnx64 please
[01:06] <MK`> escott: Ah... I was using several programs and it started using swap. Now my ram is mostly free but swap is still in use, was wondering if I should do anyting
[01:07] <jwtiyar> how to remove installed app from PPA ?
[01:07] <Demon|Ubuntu> done
[01:07] <fishbait> every time i switch worksapce it has no panels in gnome i just upgraded kernel if its pertenent how do i fix this and it won't keep across boots
[01:07] <sfears> jwtiyar: try to rephrase your question
[01:07] <BarkingFish> ok, now we try one of the other drivers, Demon|Ubuntu - can you run sudo ndiswrapper -i /home/demonicpagan/Desktop/Disk/XP/Drivers/NETwLx64.INF
[01:07] <romy420> jwtiyar, do sudo apt-get remove <appname>
[01:08] <jwtiyar> romy420, i installed it from ppa its not official
[01:08] <romy420> should work anyway
[01:08] <MK`> jwtiyar: you can remove them the say way as any other application, with apt-get remove. if you want to remove the PPA itself, you can do that via the software center. That won't remove the software though, you'd need to do both
[01:08] <MK`> It will work.
[01:08] <Demon|Ubuntu> same thing for the lx64
[01:08] <Demon|Ubuntu> gave that safe _only_ message
[01:09] <BarkingFish> so neither of them are working...
[01:09] <escott> MK`, not really. it will pull pages out of swap when needed
[01:09]  * BarkingFish sighs deeply and headbutts his keyboard 
[01:09] <BarkingFish> ok, I'll check the inf files out myself, give me a moment please
[01:09] <hypertz> i just forgot my password
[01:09] <hypertz> i dont have root access
[01:09] <jwtiyar> MK`, when i used apt-get remove package said package not found and write package name correctly
[01:09] <hypertz> on my VPS
[01:09] <hypertz> is there something i can do
[01:10] <MK`> thanks escott
[01:10] <jwtiyar> MK`, its  not exist in  software center
[01:10] <MK`> jwtiyar, is it still installed then? Can you run it?
[01:10] <jwtiyar> MK`, yes
[01:11] <MoleMan> hypertz: if you have no access you will have to contact your host for support, they should know how to sort it and be able to do so for you
[01:11] <MK`> jwtiyar: All PPAs and their applications should be listed under the "Get Software" part of the Software Center, with an entry for each PPA
[01:11] <MK`> under "For Purchase"
[01:11] <romy420> easy to install, hard to remove .. if this was a windows machine .... :)
[01:12] <jwtiyar> MK`, thank you i found it
[01:12] <MK`> jwtiyar: you're welcome
[01:12] <joosen> hi
[01:13] <joosen> I need to know that the best os of linux is ?
[01:13] <joosen> Someone tell me.
[01:13] <ResQue> is it just me, or is this the buggiest version of ubuntu we have have seen in a long time
[01:13] <joosen> Ubuntu or ?
[01:13] <b0nghitter> should i have selected "host a virtual machine" during the ubuntu server 12.04 install if im going to be using Qemu? if so, what do i need to install other than qemu-kvm?
[01:14] <szal> !best | joosen
[01:14] <MK`> joosen, the term is "distribution", not "os". Linux is the OS kernel.
[01:14] <Demon|Ubuntu> oh wow... gonna be updating this other system i'm workin on for a while....
[01:14] <romy420> be careful
[01:15] <b0nghitter> my cpu does not support VT-x
[01:15] <escott> b0nghitter, then you can only have 32bit guests
[01:15] <joosen> yesh, ubuntu is only kernel not be the os or not?
[01:17] <mrdn> joosen: no, Linux is the kernel. Ubuntu is a distribution
[01:17] <joosen> ubuntu can recovery data from the broken harddisk or not?
[01:17] <b0nghitter> escott, that's fine, im only emulating a cisco asa.. but its telling me i have an unpatched version of qemu, i just used apt-get install qemu-kvm.. im hopijng i dont need something else that "host a vm" during the os install would install
[01:17] <root_> hi
[01:17] <NiKononcpu> hi
[01:17] <root_> hello everyone
[01:18] <BarkingFish> This is not my night. I just downloaded the file with all the inf stuff in, and now firefox has gone and decided to go gaga and not tell me where the hell it's hidden it :P
[01:18] <Demon|Ubuntu> lol
[01:18] <b0nghitter> ~/Downloads?
[01:19] <Demon|Ubuntu> can't be half as bad as my morning yesterday where i got off work, went to the store and got out with the keys locked in the car and it running still
[01:19] <MK`> escott: I assume it's not recommended to temporarily disable swap to force the pages out?
[01:19] <BarkingFish> b0nghitter, not in there.
[01:20] <oscarvarto> Hi! Just starting with Ubuntu (but not new to Linux--> Used Arch Linux for a while). which is the command to figure out if a package is installed?
[01:20] <szal> BarkingFish: well, it's either the last used path or what you set in the prefs
[01:21] <BarkingFish> found it. It stuck it in /tmp and never bothered moving it
[01:21] <MK`> oscarvarto: dpkg -s _packagename_
[01:22] <szal> oscarvarto: apt-cache search packagename <- a leading 'i' will indicate that it's installed
[01:22] <romy420> dpkg -l packagename
[01:22] <BarkingFish> Demon|Ubuntu, i'm sorry, I think i'm gonna have to hand you over to someone else, or ask if you can pop in tomorrow evening when I'll be slightly brighter
[01:22] <oscarvarto> thanks folks. Too used to pacman package manager from Arch.
[01:23] <Demon|Ubuntu> yeah, that's no problem
[01:23] <MK`> Lol 3 different answers :) Try the Ubuntu Software Center too, oscarvarto.
[01:23] <BarkingFish> I guess my machine is having a funny turn with the heat, nothing is downloading properly and my machine keeps making random beeping noises at me
[01:23] <ghostchick> BarkingFish, lm-sensors installed ?
[01:23] <BarkingFish> yeah, ghostchick
[01:23] <gaelfx> ?exit
[01:23] <ghostchick> BarkingFish,  sensors giving out an normal temp?
[01:24] <BarkingFish> it's system temp which is yelling at me, if I let it get much hotter I'm gonna thermal shutdown
[01:24] <ghostchick> ^a
[01:24] <root_642> hi
[01:24] <szal> MK`: you're not going to recommend a GUI pkg manager to someone who is used to doing pkg management on the CLI, are you?
[01:24] <ghostchick> BarkingFish,  laptop mode tools, powertop, cpufrequtils
[01:24] <BarkingFish> I'm running a Xeon P4 2.93Ghz at just under 76°c
[01:24] <BarkingFish> i think I might need to put some fresh paste on and get my cooler cleaned out
[01:24] <b0nghitter> yikes, thats hot.. should be around 60c
[01:25] <dylan--> hey guys
[01:25] <BarkingFish> yeah, I know. My machine is usually quite good, b0nghitter - never normally runs above 50°C thanks to my Zalman
[01:25] <cfhowlett> dylan--: greetings
[01:25] <fishbait> you sure your zalman isn't failing
[01:26] <BarkingFish> With respect, Demon|Ubuntu - I'm sorry I've not been able to help you properly tonight. I will finish this off tomorrow unless you get sorted out any quicker :)
[01:26] <BarkingFish> and fishbait it better not be, I've only had it 3 months
[01:26] <dylan--> i just had to order a fan for my toshiba
[01:26] <Demon|Ubuntu> ur good, get some rest
[01:26] <b0nghitter> i took my shopvac and blew out my old p4, the whold yars was engulfed in a cloud of dust
[01:26] <b0nghitter> whole yard also
[01:27] <fishbait> barkingfish: my cpu athlon II x2 31,ghz runs at about 30c 92mm heatsink fan
[01:27] <dylan--> the heatsink is just a tube that runs over the processor 0.o
[01:27] <fishbait> 3.1 not 31
[01:27] <BarkingFish> ok guys, peace, see you round. Be back about 7pm BST tonight.
[01:27] <BarkingFish> so in about 15 hours from now.
[01:27] <BarkingFish> See ya.
[01:27] <fishbait> good luck barkingfish
[01:28] <szal> my AthlonII X2 255 (2x 3.1 GHz) used to run at under 45°C most of the time when I still ran Linux, that w/ a standard box cooler
[01:28] <fishbait> mines an aftermarket heatsink fan and artic paste
[01:29] <fishbait> i set a turnoff temp of 60c
[01:29] <fishbait> every time i switch worksapce it has no panels in gnome how do i fix this and it won't keep across boots
[01:29] <escott> MK`, why would you want to force pages out?
[01:29] <szal> I don't seem to have a way of seeing the CPU temperature in Windows
[01:30] <crc32> How can I list the modules that are directly compiled into the kernel? I want to have lvm loaded from /boot as an ext2/3 filesystem where as "/" is an logical volume.
[01:30] <pleasehlp> help ! ... I cannot get ubuntu 12.04 to boot up from usb, my writer died, but I got version 11.10 to boot so I am in a live cd version right now, I have 12.04 iso downloaded, how can I do a fresh install of 12.04 from a 11.10 live cd boot
[01:30] <pleasehlp> tia
[01:30] <escott> crc32, you can add lvm to /etc/modules and then update-initramfs
[01:31] <mbrigdan> Is there a reason the noip2 package was removed from ubuntu? (Launchpad shows the binary packages as 'deleted')
[01:31] <szal> pleasehlp: you can't.. only thing you can do is install 11.10 and, w/o further ado, upgrade to 12.04
[01:31] <pleasehlp> szal, it was the upgrade that messed my 11.10 up (it was old and bloated)
[01:32] <pleasehlp> is it not possible to put the files on a partition, and boot from that?
[01:32] <chroot> hi, can i skip the startup disk check in ubuntu?
[01:32] <fishbait> pleasehlp: fresh install 11.10 the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (thats the right package right?)
[01:32] <szal> other than that, optical drives aren't exactly expensive
[01:32] <chroot> pleasehlp: i just know it is possible
[01:32] <ldz420> I am trying to discover if I can rollback a packages to an older package version
[01:32] <Demon|Ubuntu> if i get this, does this mean when i used ndiswrapper -i in already associated with the device?
[01:32] <Demon|Ubuntu> demonicpagan@DP-Linux:~$ sudo ndiswrapper -a 8086:0084 netwxw00
[01:32] <Demon|Ubuntu> Driver 'netwxw00' is already used for '8086:0084'
[01:32] <szal> fishbait: do-release-upgrade
[01:33] <fishbait> szal: ty
[01:33] <chroot> pleasehlp: and you need google it
[01:33] <xmltok> is anyone familiar with netinstalls and selecting something other than eth0 based on mac address? I've found a few bugs and reportedly its fixed, but it does not work for me on 12.04 LTS
[01:33] <pleasehlp> ive googled it, all I find is upgrading from live boot or some other stuff, rather than what I want to do
[01:33] <pleasehlp> yes but I need to do stuff for tommorrow
[01:34] <fishbait> xmltok 1 question are you using a realtek nic?
[01:34] <pleasehlp> it broke on the most important day of the month :/
[01:34] <pleasehlp> its 1:34 here
[01:34] <pleasehlp> am been at this for hours...
[01:34] <xmltok> no, not realtek
[01:35] <xmltok> the interfaces appear but only one of them is wired up, the one which gets dhcp. once the kernel boots that is eth1 but 'auto' only checks eth0
[01:35] <szal> pleasehlp: rule of thumb: if you don't have a backup, it wasn't important ;)
[01:35] <xmltok> both interfaces appear offline, even though eth1 is connected
[01:35] <xmltok> if i run dhcp manually it configures fine
[01:35] <cfhowlett> pleasehlp: bite the bullet.  11.10 to 12.04.
[01:35] <fishbait> xmltok hmm
[01:36] <rawfodog> can ubuntu burn .cdi files ?
[01:36] <pleasehlp> cfhowlett, just did and now this has happened
[01:36] <fishbait> do you have to do that on all machines?
[01:37] <cfhowlett> !who
[01:37] <xmltok> aha. foudn the patch in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=615600. it appears he looks for bootif to be set to the mac like AA:BB:CC:DD:EE:FF when the spec says 01-AA-BB-CC-DD-EE-FF, lets try it out..
[01:37] <fishbait> xmltok do you have to do that on all machines?
[01:37] <xmltok> im not sure, i am only tryign with one machine of a certain class. its probably random on the ordering
[01:38] <fishbait> i tihnk its just not seeing it fast enough
[01:39] <studio> can somebody help me how can i install conky?
[01:39] <fishbait> eth0 then eth1 it probably checks like that but
[01:39] <xmltok> +            for (subst = bootif; *subst; subst++)
[01:39] <xmltok> +                if (*subst == '-')
[01:39] <xmltok> +                    *subst = ':';
[01:39] <xmltok> i'm beginning to wonder if this patch made it into 12.04
[01:39] <FloodBot1> xmltok: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:39] <fishbait> xmltok eth0 then eth1 it probably checks like that but
[01:39] <xmltok> it doesn't actually check eth1 t
[01:39] <fishbait> ahh even worse i'm out of ideas
[01:40] <zh> studio: sudo apt-get install conky
[01:40] <joosen> ubuntu can recovery data from the broken harddisk or not?
[01:41] <cfhowlett> joosen: it depends...
[01:41] <escott> joosen, depends on how broken it is.
[01:41] <xmltok> i probably have to build my own initramfs
[01:41] <studio> zh: yeah i know that :D i installed it but it doesnt work properly
[01:41] <joosen> Harddisk cannot show the drive when I plug it.
[01:42] <zh> studio: can you elaborate on "doesn't work properly?"
[01:43] <joosen> someone have an experience about recovery data.
[01:43] <studio> zh:its like all black and the things messed up
[01:45] <romy420> joosen, what kind of hard disk is it?
[01:45] <wanzong>  #ubuntu-cn
[01:50] <xmltok> fishbait: my dhcp server was providing 'bootif' not 'BOOTIF'...
[01:51] <delac> DID YOU KNOW: messing up with /etc/default/locale can actually prevent 3G stick from gaining connection. Just FYI.
[01:54] <nutbust> I just installed Ubuntu and accidentally shut down my computer. It booted back as windows. wat do
[01:55] <zh> studio: have you tweaked the config file any? You may have to do some work to get things looking good/working correctly. It's been a while since I've used it, not finding much up-to-date documentation. There's http://conky.sourceforge.net/ and a channel here on freenode, #conky
[01:56] <joosen> what's the link about webboard to post the problem?
[01:56] <joosen> Someone can tell me?
[01:56] <killdimz> Tell you what?
[01:57] <OerHeks> !paste
[02:01] <descartes> hi
[02:01] <arielsanflo> hello
[02:01] <arielsanflo> canal 12.10
[02:01] <arielsanflo> help
[02:02] <bazhang> !12.10 | arielsanflo
[02:02] <arielsanflo> thanks
[02:03] <faryshta_> Is it possible to share configurations or installed programs among computers using ubuntuone?
[02:03] <bonobolene> hi all..not a gripe, but just wondering/grasping...I just upgraded to pangolin...it seems buggy as heck..?...everytime i install something new (particularly gnome related stuff)...it just "annoyance" crashes...?..is it just me and i did something wrong, or is this a common theme?
[02:04] <bazhang> faryshta_, tried in #ubuntuone yet
[02:04] <bazhang> bonobolene, need exact error messages
[02:04] <bazhang> !paste| bonobolene
[02:07] <noiro> Hey guys, on average, what brand of card does Linux in general support better? AMD or Nvidia?
[02:07] <noiro> I mean graphics card
[02:07] <bonobolene> bazhang, it's a multitude of things...seems to true out for the most part, but most of it has to do with trying to run gnome-shell or gnome-related things (cairo-dock was the latest)...unity seems to be pretty stable..not any specific issue that i'm trying to solve, just trying to figure out if another clean install is worth my while, or if i'm better of reverting to maverick..this is my main machine, and downtime is not an option...just trying to pull a con
[02:07] <bonobolene> census here...
[02:07] <dax> noiro: Depends on whether you want to use free-software drivers that don't do 3D well, or non-free drivers that do.
[02:07] <bonobolene> bazhang, thanks for stepping in, tho
[02:07] <escott> noiro, intel
[02:08] <subz3r0> dax, not rly :)
[02:08] <dax> subz3r0: yes really.
[02:08] <subz3r0> noiro: nvidia
[02:08] <dax> The 'radeon' open source driver is better than nouveau. The nvidia closed-source driver is better than fglrx.
[02:08] <subz3r0> dax, maybe u should have mentioned that directly... anyway
[02:09] <dax> ... that's the obvious extension of what I was saying. What did you think I meant?
[02:09] <noiro> dax: I mean like gnome-shell, compiz, and multimonitor support. I don't plan to game on it, but I want to also have a Windows partition for heavy gaming (with DX11), and possibly hackintosh partition
[02:09] <dax> noiro: gnome-shell and compiz should work fine on either. I don't know anything about multimonitor support or hackintosh, though.
[02:10] <subz3r0> noiro: even playing 1080p full hd could be a problem. it wont run just out of the box in several circumstanced
[02:10] <subz3r0> -d+s
[02:10] <noiro> I hear from others (and have personally seen) that Nvidia driver support on Linux has some issues, and that Hackintosh prefers AMD
[02:11] <noiro> I currently have a Nvidia GTS 450 and gnome-shell puts me in fallback mode for it. >.>
[02:11] <killdimz> Some guy told me if I want to fix my ui in 12.04 and convert to gnome 3 I need to type sudo rm -rf/
[02:11] <killdimz> Doe it actually work?
[02:12] <escott> noiro, don't know what your budget is like. but i would get an intel and run the linux as a kvm host and pass the nvidia/amd card with VT-d to a windows/hackintosh guest. best of all possible worlds
[02:12] <noiro> subz3r0: how about this? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121643
[02:12] <subz3r0> i dont care what windfall uses for their crap products :)
[02:12] <subz3r0> 128-bit DDR3. not good
[02:12] <dax> killdimz: no, that's a typo of the command to remove every file on your system
[02:12] <subz3r0> should be atleat 256bit
[02:13] <killdimz> me gusta
[02:13] <bazhang> killdimz, stop that
[02:13] <killdimz> <3
[02:13] <noiro> Subz3r0: wrong link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125419
[02:14] <subz3r0> thats amd...
[02:14] <poseidon> Anyone know how to fix "open terminal failed: missing or unsuitable terminal: rxvt-256color" when trying to use tmux with urxvt?
[02:14] <subz3r0> buy it if u like. I would never buy Ati(amd) again
[02:14] <subz3r0> but dont mess around if you cant even get 1080p mkv to work ;)
[02:15] <noiro> subz3r0: I was told Linux and OSX support AMD drivers best. I am currently using a Nvidia I can't even get running on Linux with proprietary drivers and nouveau isn't any better.
[02:15] <killdimz> So what is the fuss about 12.04? Really, unity seems meh, and as a whole it seems to have more bugs.
[02:15] <bazhang> !ot | killdimz
[02:15] <subz3r0> noiro. thats not the truth. ofc any ati fanboys would say that
[02:16] <killdimz> Most people I know using it rolled back
[02:16] <nickBuntu> Hey all
[02:16] <subz3r0> ask ppl how the support of ati was x years ago...
[02:16] <bazhang> noiro, subz3r0 lets take the hardware chat to either #ubuntu-offtopic or ##hardware please
[02:16] <nickBuntu> Does anyone know if you can configure rhythymbox to automatically start a radio stream on startup?
[02:17] <subz3r0> bazhang, y? hes asking what will runs best on ubuntu(linux)
[02:17] <subz3r0> and that's nvidia as a matter of fact
[02:17] <killdimz> ^
[02:17] <subz3r0> it was and allways will be
[02:17] <killer> i installed desktop web apps (through ppa) in 12.04 ..now how do i get for example facebook desktop app
[02:17] <LordFDisk> you can use the “Mate” Desktop Environment in 12.04 but it's a Gnome 2 clone
[02:17] <bazhang> subz3r0, please lets move on. this is for ubuntu support and the discussion has gotten offtopic
[02:17] <chu> !notunity
[02:18] <subz3r0> bazhang, so maybe tell him your suggestions, that he can decide
[02:19] <faryshta_> Is it possible to share configurations or installed programs among computers using ubuntuone?
[02:19] <kukulambar> hi everyone: would it better to run ubuntu using virtualbox or VMWare?
[02:19] <bazhang> faryshta_, have you asked in #ubuntuone yet
[02:19] <killdimz> You could share files, yeah.
[02:19] <killdimz> Virtualbox
[02:19] <killdimz> same shit though
[02:19] <bazhang> killdimz, no cursing here
[02:20]  * bonobolene votes for virtualbox
[02:20] <killdimz> same thing* though
[02:20] <subz3r0> faryshta_, yes you can. synchronize the configs. and you can sign in to the softwarecenter. u will be able to have the same software on every pc u like
[02:20] <noiro> Also, if I am in Ubuntu 12.04 and virtualize Windows 7 to listen to Spotify (it randomly stops working at times), what kind of sound quality loss am I looking at?
[02:20] <killdimz> #! ftw
[02:21] <smallfoot-> noire, none
[02:21] <tr3nton> noiro, why don't you use the native client?
[02:21] <kukulambar> iam using Virtualbox, 4GB memory, 128MB video ram and 2 processors for the setting
[02:21] <noiro> tr3nton: It works sometimes through wine but will randomly stop playing
[02:21] <kukulambar> and i am running Ubuntu 12.04
[02:21] <faryshta_> subz3r0: cool. How?
[02:21] <tr3nton> noiro, there's a beta linux client you can run... not through wine.
[02:22] <smallfoot-> noire, yes use the native client! its very good
[02:23] <subz3r0> faryshta_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SingleSignOn
[02:23] <noiro> tr3nton: That is for premium though. I don' tthink they have a free beta
[02:23] <tr3nton> noiro: I run it, and am not on premium
[02:23] <subz3r0> never used that before. just read that you can do that =)
[02:24] <smallfoot-> noire, i use spotify linux client without premium
[02:24] <tr3nton> noiro: http://www.spotify.com/au/download/previews/
[02:25] <e0ne199> hello
[02:25] <subz3r0> faryshta_, or just open the softwarecenter and click on "file"
[02:25] <e0ne199> do you know what is needed to install .sh and .run files?
[02:25] <subz3r0> dunno how the option is exactly, since i dont use the english version... something like migrate... guess u will see it :)
[02:26] <noiro> tr3nton: one sec.
[02:26] <subz3r0> faryshta_, found it?
[02:27] <subz3r0> softwarecenter - file - synchronize()
[02:28] <BlueProtoman> I have a weird issue.  I'm trying to install python-profiler through the USC, but it tells me I can't due to it depending on a certain version of Python that I already have?  http://pastebin.com/wywmLMXr
[02:28] <faryshta_> subz3r0: I am reading it. Thanks.
[02:29] <e0ne199> hello, anyone?
[02:29] <subz3r0> no1
[02:29] <faryshta_> subz3r0: THANKS!!!
[02:29] <noiro> tr3nton: You are my hero. I didn't know they had released one. e.o
[02:29] <subz3r0> lol
[02:29] <tr3nton> noiro: hopefully it runs smoothly for you :)
[02:29] <noiro> Running it now.
[02:30] <noiro> oh and before I go to bed, does anyone have some tips to speed up SSH with X11?
[02:30] <noiro> Things are really slow on it.
[02:30] <tr3nton> e0ne199: http://askubuntu.com/questions/122428/how-to-run-sh-file
[02:30] <subz3r0> e0ne199, .sh is a shellscript, you cant "install" it. just use it...
[02:31] <subz3r0> but i definetaly would not use any .sh script if i dont know what it does
[02:31] <e0ne199> subz3r0 i have tried to run those files but nothing happens..
[02:32] <subz3r0> you need to make it executable first
[02:32] <subz3r0> then u can run it with ./name-of-the-script.sh
[02:32] <noiro> tr3nton: Do you have any experience with SSH over X11?
[02:32] <subz3r0> chmod +x name-of-the-script.sh
[02:32] <tr3nton> noiro: nope
[02:33] <e0ne199> perhaps do i lose some important package or something like that?
[02:33] <romy420> noiro, it's slow for me too over wireless
[02:33] <subz3r0> but like i said, dont run any script, if you dont know what it does. you can damage ur pc/files
[02:33] <FloodBot1> killdimz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:33] <romy420> vnc should be faster
[02:33] <subz3r0> e0ne199, depends on what the script should do
[02:33] <e0ne199> subz3r0 how about .run files?
[02:34] <subz3r0> same way... ./bla.run
[02:34] <e0ne199> ok
[02:34] <TheCrittaC> I'm running Unity with a NVIDIA card and two monitors.
[02:34] <TheCrittaC> Is there a reason why the Displays setting only sees one big "display"?
[02:34] <Xcytre> what kind of wireless device is it?
[02:34] <trism> BlueProtoman: yeah the package is broken, bug 865363 and it is included in the python2.7 package anyway
[02:35] <oscarvarto> I installed Ubuntu 11.04 because I need CUDA. However, I want to install newer versions of software with apt-get. For example, I want a newer version of git. How can I do that?
[02:35] <trism> BlueProtoman: just import profile or import pstats
[02:36] <noiro> romy420: I heard if I change the encryption scheme, I could speed it up a lot.
[02:36] <noiro> I upload 800KB/s so I don't see why it would be such a big issue
[02:36] <subz3r0> oscarvarto, add a ppa or addin another deb source
[02:36] <romy420> afaik this is only true for slow - like modem - connections
[02:37] <romy420> when moving files i reach 6mb/s
[02:37] <oscarvarto> subz3r0: How can I do that?
[02:37] <subz3r0> or compile a newer version
[02:37] <oscarvarto> thanks
[02:37] <ResQue> i have a mount command i cant kill any ideas? its running at like 90% for 15min now
[02:37] <ResQue> i tried kill -i pid
[02:37] <romy420> but that is not much for an X app, at least for some
[02:37] <subz3r0> oscarvarto, depends on the software
[02:38] <BlueProtoman> trism: Thanks!
[02:39] <noiro> Does anyone know how to permanently set my ssh details? I use Putty on Windows into my Ubuntu machine so I can't enter this: ssh -c arcfour,blowfish-cbc -XC host.com
[02:39] <subz3r0> oscarvarto, http://adammonsen.com/post/665
[02:40] <oscarvarto> thanks a lot subz3r0
[02:40] <subz3r0> you're welcome
[02:40] <subz3r0> oscarvarto, but why not using cuda in 12.04? doesnt it work? did not test it yet
[02:41] <subz3r0> not sure, but read somewhere that u can use the cuda sdk on 12.04 too
[02:43] <oscarvarto> subz3r0: Well, I just formatted my Arch Linux machine. Arch is a bleeding edge distro and I got tired of having to deal with bleeding edge stuff
[02:43] <oscarvarto> I just want simple stuff now.
[02:43] <subz3r0> ;)
[02:43] <noiro> oscarvarto: I gave up Arch a while ago too lol
[02:43] <subz3r0> so why not 12.04? since 11.04 isnt a long term
[02:43] <subz3r0> for cuda check here: http://sn0v.wordpress.com/2012/05/11/installing-cuda-on-ubuntu-12-04/
[02:44] <oscarvarto> for example, it is a PITA because python is python 3.x, python2 is python 2.x
[02:44] <oscarvarto> yeah, I saw that
[02:44] <noiro> ewww.....python 3.2...
[02:45] <noiro> Has anyone ever tried Crunchbang?
[02:45] <oscarvarto> subz3r0: I checked the nvidia cuda downloads and they have stable downloads for ubuntu 11.04
[02:45] <oscarvarto> I now it might be possible to do it on 12.04, but for the moment, I just want the job done.
[02:46] <subz3r0> but u can use the toolkit in 12.04 :)
[02:46] <oscarvarto> have tons of work
[02:46] <oscarvarto> ok
[02:46] <subz3r0> nvm, enjoy your working system =)
[02:47] <noiro> bah, I'm supposed to be redesigning a website and I am busy fighting with gnome3 and trying to just build a new PC
[02:47] <subz3r0> <3 gnome 3.4 <3
[02:48] <noiro> subz3r0: I hate it.
[02:48]  * noiro pouts about being stuck in fallback mode on a 1GB graphics card
[02:49] <oscarvarto> subz3ro: I have installed cuda stuff on ubuntu 11.04. Is there a chance to upgrade to 12.04 without problems?
[02:49] <oscarvarto> (as I said, want to avoid wasting my time on mechanic stuff)
[02:52] <noiro> Ubuntu automounts USB drives correct?
[02:52] <noiro> Because I'm not seeing it.
[02:53] <subz3r0> oscarvarto, so stay with your version if u dont want to waste time
[02:53] <subz3r0> noiro, looks like many ppl have issues with this card
[02:54] <subz3r0> some have fixed the problem with installing the newest driver from nvidia
[02:56] <noiro> subz3r0: Do I need to uninstall the proprietary drivers before I install the new one here?
[02:56] <subz3r0> yes
[02:57] <oscarvarto> As a matter of fact, I use an iMac for everyday work (this is the one I'm using for irc), but this machine has no Nvidia GPU.
[02:57] <oscarvarto> thanks a lot
[02:57] <subz3r0> and you cant install the driver within unity/gnome.... quit it and then ctrl+alt+F1
[02:58] <subz3r0> noiro, yes ubuntu should mount the usb sticks. open a terminal and type "mount"
[02:58] <maca> subz3r0, why can't install whithin unity?
[02:59] <SecretFire> for some reason my external hdd will not mount, and does not show up in lsusb
[03:00] <subz3r0> maca, because it will complain that x is still running?
[03:01] <subz3r0> also it may complain that the nouveau driver is still running. so you have to change boot priorities
[03:01] <maca> I don't know... I don't have problems with graphics cards...
[03:03] <noiro> how do I end my x server so I can install the new nvidia driver?
[03:03] <subz3r0> noiro. first deinstall the old driver
[03:03] <noiro> i deactivated it. I just need to reboot
[03:03] <subz3r0> then ctrl+alt + f1
[03:03] <subz3r0> sudo stop lightdm
[03:03] <subz3r0> now install the driver
[03:03] <maca> yes, i'm agree
[03:05] <subz3r0> hopefully he has another pc if anything go wrong :>
[03:06] <subz3r0> s
[03:13] <maca> Other ubuntu channel??
[03:13] <razor__> Hey guys, I have a problem with Tor on Xubuntu, Can anyone help me?
[03:13] <maca> What happens?
[03:14] <razor__> I downloaded it from the Software center and when I try to run it it gives me an error message saying that Tor has exited please check the logs.
[03:14] <razor__> And the logs have nothing to say to me.
[03:14] <maca> the logs are in text¿
[03:14] <maca> ?
[03:15] <razor__> yes they are, But they don't really give me any info.
[03:15] <maca> in a file?
[03:15] <maca> ok
[03:15] <razor__> Is there another way to access .onion domains?
[03:15] <dax> you don't run it, it's a daemon
[03:16] <dax> install the tor package, install the torbutton addon from https://www.torproject.org/torbutton/
[03:16] <dax> (assuming you're wanting to access WWW .onion sites)
[03:16] <maca> yes, but he has downloaded from the package manager...
[03:17] <dax> so?
[03:17] <crc32> I'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04 alternative and supposedly it will install in text mode but some broken graphical items appear on bootup. How do I get a list of options in text mode.  I'm trying to use alternative so I can use lvm on the root partition. Can this be done useing the server install. And if how would I select text install or rescue mode?
[03:17] <dax> the 'tor' package sets up the tor daemon for you, you don't run anything manually. this is regardless of package manager.
[03:17] <maca> try to download from that page given by dax
[03:17] <maca> and read the readme and install text files
[03:17] <razor__> I'll be a nigger's dead wife.
[03:17] <razor__> It worked.
[03:17] <SecretFire> can someone help me mount my external hdd?
[03:17] <FloodBot1> razor__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:17] <razor__> Thanks you Dax.
[03:18] <dax> razor__: that's not an appropriate expression for #ubuntu, fyi. but you're welcome
[03:18] <maca> try typing on your terminal mount hddx...
[03:18] <maca> x is the number...
[03:19] <bazhang> !who | maca
[03:19] <smallfoot-> i use nvoudea driver and when i watch porno, my adobe flash lags if i take fullscreen
[03:19] <maca> you should know the number of your hdd...
[03:19] <bazhang> smallfoot-, stop that
[03:19] <maca> may be it would be as a sda1 or like that
[03:19] <bazhang> maca who are you addressing
[03:20] <subz3r0> maca: and where should it mount it?
[03:20] <bazhang> !guidelines > smallfoot-
[03:20] <crc32> Do I have to use alternate to install the the root file system on LVM?
[03:20] <smallfoot-> i use nouveau driver and when i use watch fullscreen music videos on youtube, it lags
[03:20] <subz3r0> guess "mkdir /media/bla" "mount /dev/sdX /media/bla" would fit better
[03:21] <swoody> crc32: yessir
[03:21] <swoody> crc32: it's unfortunate they made that choice, and also to oust encrypted partitions to the alt cd as well :-/
[03:24] <crc32> so what key combo do I press to 1) load the rescue disk 2) load the text installer?  I get broken graphics on my screen.
[03:25] <crc32> can I install lvm via the server image?
[03:26] <SecretFire> my external hdd is not showing up in /etc/fstab and I don't know the UUID, can someone help me to get it mounted?
[03:26] <bazhang> !blkid | SecretFire
[03:26] <swoody> SecretFire: it won't show up automatically in fstab, but should show up using parted -l or fdisk -l
[03:26] <swoody> also, yes, blkid is good stuff for adding fstab entries ^^
[03:27] <swoody> crc32: yeah, on the alt cd, it's the text installer
[03:28] <swoody> crc32: not difficult by any means, it still walks you through most options and the choices are pretty straightforward
[03:29] <SecretFire> swoody : its not showing in either
[03:30] <rapha> Hi!
[03:30] <SecretFire> swoody : parted -l or fdisk -l
[03:30] <crc32> yea but some kind of graphical imput was trying to show up on the screen but its so far to the left I could see what options are available. :|
[03:30] <klync> how can i make ubuntu's middle and right clicks behave unixy rather than windowsy?
[03:30] <rapha> I just accidentally rm'd an important text file. Is there any way I can directly access the harddrive and grep for a string from it to find where on the harddrive it was stored and recover it?
[03:31] <swoody> SecretFire: it should. Can you confirm it's connected? do you have another system you can try it on?
[03:31] <jrib> !undelete | rapha
[03:31] <smallfoot-> rapha, maybe: grep 'hamburger' /dev/sdb2
[03:32] <rapha> smallfoot-: I don't think that will show me the location (i.e. at what byte offset) that string is stored.
[03:32] <rapha> jrib: thx i'll try that.
[03:32] <smallfoot-> rapha, true
[03:33] <SecretFire> swoody : just confirmed that its connected. I switched usernames during an upgrade, that could have caused ownership issues but its simply not showing
[03:33] <FriarTech> rapha: see http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linuxunix-recover-deleted-files.html
[03:34] <FriarTech> or simply grep -b 'search-text' /dev/partition > file.txt
[03:35] <fishbait> how do i install the fglrx post installation updates?
[03:36] <MonkeyDust> rapha  type !recover
[03:36] <strictland> good evening everyone, is there an easy program available that will allow ubuntu to email me when a hard drive is failing?
[03:36] <gsr> fishbait, if you're in unity, click the config button in the top right of your screen (by your name), click System Settings -> Additional Drivers -> fglrx (post update)
[03:38] <FriarTech> strictland --> http://www.howtogeek.com/51848/hard-drive-monitor-script-for-headless-linux-servers/
[03:39] <strictland> thanks FriarTech
[03:39] <FriarTech> no prob
[03:39] <fishbait> i'm in gnome and nvm i'm still working with trying to install the "ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver" think it might not have stuck across boot this all started with the last kernel update... -_-
[03:40] <crc32> help me out here. Why does the alternate install disk have a graphical interface at boot?
[03:40] <usr13_> crc32: It doesn't
[03:41] <usr13_> fishbait: How are you tring to install it? (WHat method?)
[03:41] <fishbait> system setting > additional drivers
[03:41] <usr13_> fishbait: Well, that should work.  I dono...
[03:42] <usr13_> fishbait: boot the previous kernel.
[03:42] <fishbait> good it activated
[03:42] <klync> my question above was regarding the stock terminal app on a stock 12.04 install, btw ... i just want to middle-click to select and right-click to paste, like every other nix i've ever used.
[03:42] <usr13_> klync: I think you've go it backwards...
[03:43] <klync> usr13_: yes, i did :/
[03:44] <fishbait> now the updates system settings > systems settings > additional drivers > select "ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX grphics driver (post-release updates)"
[03:45] <usr13_> klync: There are a couple methods, left mouse button to highlight, (shift-left-click to finish), middle mouse button to dump...
[03:45] <usr13_> klync: or Ctrl-c to copy and Ctrl-v to paste
[03:48] <klync> usr13_: thanks ... i think it's just the right-click vs the middle-click that's been messing with me ... and, to be honest, i'm not even sure if it's unix or putty that got me into that habit ... i tend to avoid ctrl-c in terminals tho
[03:49] <usr13_> klync: Ctrl-c and Ctrl-v does not work in terminal, only dumping from clipboard, (shift-middle-mouse-button to dump).
[03:50] <crc32> usr13_: The alternative boot cd has a graphical menu at boot up. Which for some reason was broken when I tried to boot off USB.
[03:51] <usr13_> crc32: I dono...
[03:51] <crc32> Whats up with the alternate boot cd? Therws no fdisk when I switch to console.
[03:51] <usr13_> crc32: md5sum it
[03:52] <usr13_> the iso
[03:53] <rapha> FriarTech: thanks, that link looks like it could get me started without having to resort to letting a full-blown recovery program run.
[03:56] <rocky_> hello Guys
[03:56] <rocky_> howdy
[03:56] <rocky_> i have ubuntu 12.04, the suspend feature isn't working as expected
[03:58] <rocky_> i have ubuntu 12.04, the suspend feature isn't working as expected
[04:00] <DanielHoffman> is there a way to redirect ALL output to a file?
[04:01] <bobo37773> DanielHoffman: command > filename
[04:01] <DanielHoffman> when i run a program, it doesnt redirect all of it, i even tried 2>
[04:02] <bobo37773> DanielHoffman: Which output is it missing? Stderr or something?
[04:02] <DanielHoffman> i dont know
[04:02] <fishbait> okay so it failed to install "ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver (post-release updates)" i checked jockey.log and it think its not finding the original fglrx driver. how do i fix this
[04:03] <bobo37773> DanielHoffman: Does this work? -->       command &> filename
[04:03] <DanielHoffman> when i start it up, it says all of the starting data but the program outputs data and that data is not captured
[04:04] <DanielHoffman> no, it doesnt
[04:04] <DanielHoffman> it outputs it to the screen and not to a file
[04:04] <bobo37773> DanielHoffman: If the program is outputting text in the terminal still then it is not redirecting to a file I wouldn't think. What is the exact command you are using?
[04:04] <DanielHoffman> tshark -i eth1 &> tshark
[04:04] <bobo37773> DanielHoffman: Let me try
[04:05] <bobo37773> DanielHoffman: You are running tshark as sudo right?
[04:06] <bobo37773> DanielHoffman: Not that it should matter too much in I/O redirect just saying
[04:06] <DanielHoffman> yes, it is in a shell file, sudo ./tshark.sh
[04:06] <fishbait> lspci says the vga is using fglrx_updates though ima reboot and see
[04:06] <rocky_> DanielHoffman, i have ubuntu 12.04, the suspend feature isn't working as expected
[04:06] <DanielHoffman> i have 11.10
[04:07] <bobo37773> DanielHoffman: Seems like it is working fine here. Is there something I should look out for to see if it is not catching it?
[04:08] <DanielHoffman> on my computer, it outputs it to the screen and the file isnt created
[04:09] <bobo37773> DanielHoffman: Does the original file already exist?
[04:09] <DanielHoffman> no
[04:09] <bobo37773> DanielHoffman: What shell are you using? Bash?
[04:09] <DanielHoffman> yes, bash
[04:10] <gRAVIty_> FRESH installation of Apache on ubuntu 12.04 poses the following problem http://www.apachefriends.org/f/viewtopic.php?p=195119&sid=7204931664220bd8e121a77d447af9be
[04:10] <bobo37773> DanielHoffman: Working perfect here. I used the command "sudo tshark -i wlan0 &> tshark" (had to rm the original tshark file first)
[04:11] <DanielHoffman> hold on
[04:11] <fishbait> is this using the updated driver? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109488
[04:12] <fishbait> is this using the updated fglrx driver? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109488
[04:13] <greedgreed> fuck
[04:14] <DanielHoffman> dont work
[04:14] <brophat> my wifi connection speed stays around 54 Mb/s does that sound about right?
[04:14] <fishbait> brophat b, g, or n?
[04:15] <DanielHoffman> is N the fastest?
[04:15] <Canis__> 54/8 =?
[04:15] <brophat> fishbait don't know it does not tell me that. all i know is my wifi is rt3090 chipset
[04:16] <Canis__> About 7MBps  it isn't unheard of on a fiber connection.
[04:16] <fishbait> N is the most recent but speed can be affected by other factors
[04:16] <DanielHoffman> turns out i was runing it from a shell script and not as a command
[04:16] <bobo37773> DanielHoffman: Anything interesting in your .bashrc that may be causing you grief?
[04:16] <Canis__> Yup...ther are about 3 "n" speeds following different specs.
[04:16] <bobo37773> DanielHoffman: Try it as a command then
[04:16] <fishbait> brophat: that would be right for wifi g
[04:16] <deadmund> DanielHoffman: That sentence doesn't make sense.  A shell script is just a bunch of commands
[04:17] <DanielHoffman> jbut it works
[04:17] <brophat> fishbait ok then prob that is what it is
[04:17] <gRAVIty_> ubuntu 12.04  MySQL deactivated in xampp - help anybody?
[04:17] <fishbait> is this using the updated fglrx driver? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109488
[04:17] <gRAVIty_> frest installation
[04:18] <deadmund> DanielHoffman: if it works that's great.  But the sentence you said still doesn't make sense :)
[04:18] <DanielHoffman> shell script gives me output on the screen and not on a file; command gives me output on a file and not on the screen
[04:18] <deadmund> DanielHoffman: wrong.  A command can give output on the screen ls for example is a command that outputs to the screen
[04:18] <gRAVIty_> deadmund: you familiar with  basic Xampp?
[04:18] <deadmund> DanielHoffman: Additionally, shell scripts can output to a file
[04:18] <DanielHoffman> in this scenario
[04:18] <deadmund> gRAVIty_: no
[04:18] <DanielHoffman> ...
[04:18] <DanielHoffman> oh...
[04:19] <deadmund> DanielHoffman: There is no difference between running the ls command running a shell script that runs ls.
[04:19] <gRAVIty_> bobo37773: are you familiar with xampp installation on linux?
[04:19] <deadmund> DanielHoffman: Both of those would output to the screen :)
[04:20] <bobo37773> gRAVIty_: Never heard of it. Can take a look if you want though. Where are you running into problems?
[04:20] <DanielHoffman> sudo tshark -i eth0 &> tshark
[04:20] <DanielHoffman> try it with that command
[04:20] <gRAVIty_> bobo3773: Xampp is local server on ubuntu
[04:20] <deadmund> DanielHoffman: That command will output to a file because you used >
[04:20] <gRAVIty_> it is just a set of files in /opt/lampp
[04:21] <DanielHoffman> i know but it works differently in a shell
[04:21] <DanielHoffman> on my end
[04:21] <gRAVIty_> bobo3773: when I try to access a certain thing it says Existing configuration file (./config.inc.php) is not readable.
[04:21] <deadmund> DanielHoffman: You're not using the term 'shell' correctly I think.  A shell is jsut another word for the terminal.
[04:21] <bobo37773> gRAVIty_: Can you find that file? Do you know where it is?
[04:21] <Gnea> YAY! 12.04 works! Well, mostly...
[04:21] <DanielHoffman> i know
[04:22] <DanielHoffman> maybe i typed it differently
[04:22] <Gnea> does anyone recall the name of the command in the terminal that states what the current resolution is set to and to change it?
[04:22] <deadmund> Gnea: xranr
[04:22] <Gnea> oh, xrandr, thank you
[04:22] <gRAVIty_> bobo3773: trying to locate it
[04:23] <deadmund> gRAVIty_: fine / -name config.inc.php
[04:23] <deadmund> whoops
[04:23] <DanielHoffman> i give up
[04:23] <bobo37773> gRAVIty_: After you find it do --> ls -l filename
[04:23] <deadmund> gRAVIty_: find -name config.inc.php
[04:23] <gRAVIty_> dedmund: 1 min
[04:24] <deadmund> gRAVIty_: I don't need to see the output.  find is just a command that can help you :)
[04:24] <gRAVIty_> deadmund: ya got it :)
[04:25] <m1chael> im attempting to run an internet radio station using liquidsoap and icecast2. my question is: how could i possibly feed my microphone input and headphones output to liquidsoap? liquidsoap has an ALSA interface (and other interfaces) .. but things still seem unclear to me
[04:27] <fishbait> is this using the updated fglrx driver? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109488
[04:28] <deadmund> fishbait: looks like.  You're definitely using fglrx  I can't say if it's the newest version
[04:28] <Gnea> !nvidia
[04:29] <bobo37773> fishbait: No version in that output as far as I can tell. How would anyone know if your running a newer / older one? Must be a better command to figure it out
[04:30] <fishbait> i'll check that
[04:31] <bobo37773> fishbait: Maybe -> dmesg | grep fglrx
[04:33] <fishbait> bobo37773: that command gives me logs it looks like 8.96.4 [mar 12 2.012]
[04:34] <deadmund> fishbait: it is a log populated everytime you boot
[04:34] <bobo37773> fishbait: No version hints about flgxr or whatever
[04:34] <fishbait> bobo37773: yep
[04:35] <bobo37773> fishbait: Can you dump it somewhere live paste before
[04:35] <deadmund> fishbait: In the linux world the newest driver is not always the best.  This is because the newest is usually also the least stable.
[04:35] <fishbait> deadmund hmm u may be right
[04:35] <bobo37773> deadmund: True. But the new one is newerer!
[04:35] <deadmund> here's how to check the newest version: http://askubuntu.com/questions/93202/how-do-i-check-fglrxs-version
[04:35] <deadmund> I googled it (Btw) not hard to do
[04:36] <fishbait> whats the most recent stable version of fglrx
[04:36] <deadmund> fishbait: 'stable' is not well defined for such things
[04:37] <deadmund> also, I have no idea
[04:37] <deadmund> fishbait: Keep the version of fglrx you have.  If you see problems then consider changing it
[04:38] <fishbait> deadmund:  well everytime i boot it tells me system has encountered problem
[04:38] <bobo37773> fishbait: 12.6 I think.
[04:38] <deadmund> what's the problem?
[04:38] <fishbait> hang on i'm rebooting to get it again 30 seconds
[04:41] <fishbait> system program problem detected
[04:41] <JdGordon> how do i get my application i'm writing to how up in unity's app finder search window thing?
[04:42] <fishbait> executable path /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/colord/colord it crashed
[04:44] <Shingetsu> hello all, I know this isn't your distro, but can you guys help at setting up linux software raid for a debian install? plz plz?
[04:44] <bazhang> Shingetsu, #debian
[04:44] <fishbait> system program problem detected executable path /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/colord/colord it crashed
[04:44] <Shingetsu> bazhang: went there, they seem to hate me :)
[04:45] <bazhang> Shingetsu, be patient. its not supported here so dont ask again
[04:45] <bobo37773> Shingetsu: Dont use raid or debian or ubuntu sorry. Can't help. Should be plenty of documentation on it though. Look around
[04:46] <nja> Hi all
[04:47] <bobo37773> nja: Hi
[04:48] <AndroUser> Anyone tried connecting ubuntu boxes to windows domain for login?
[04:49] <nja> @AndroUser Wouldn't Samba cover that?
[04:49] <burnt123> hey, just installed 12.04 from scratch
[04:49] <burnt123> wont see my brother printer
[04:49] <burnt123> goto printing, click add
[04:49] <burnt123> nothing
[04:49] <nja> How is it connected?
[04:50] <burnt123> not in the list or the db to add manually
[04:50] <nja> USB, Network etc.
[04:50] <burnt123> found a page with drivers
[04:50] <burnt123> installed em but still not showing, what do i do?
[04:50] <AndroUser> Nja, will samba also enforce domain policies?
[04:50] <fishbait> system program problem detected executable path /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/colord/colord it crashed what does this mean
[04:50] <nja> @AndroUser Don't think so, That is probably exclusively Windows functionality
[04:51] <nja> @burnt123 How is your printer connected?  USB, Network?
[04:51] <burnt123> usb
[04:51] <burnt123> brother hl-2130
[04:51] <nja> @burnt123 Wow, mind reader
[04:51] <burnt123> worked np but on reinstall nothing
[04:51] <AndroUser> Nja, Okay. Looks like krberos is the only way.. will have to google a bit
[04:52] <nja> @AndroUser Good luck.
[04:52] <burnt123> nja hehe
[04:52] <AndroUser> Nja :-) thanks
[04:52] <nja> @burnt123 Does this help at all? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1891628
[04:55] <LinuxVertigo> I made it  back from Oblivion
[04:56] <burnt123> nja trying now :) thanks buddy
[04:56] <Vercengettorix> I AM BACK
[04:56] <bobo37773> Vercengettorix: Welcome back
[04:57] <fishbait> system program problem detected executable path /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/colord/colord it crashed what does this mean?
[04:57] <nja> @burnt123 Have fun!
[04:59] <burnt123> nja, hehe will do :)
[05:00] <bobo37773> fishbait: Maybe related? --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/colord/+bug/827934
[05:00] <bobo37773> fishbait: Maybe not
[05:00] <Vercengettorix> tnx
[05:01] <jlkdsadjopasjdpo> Hello from Jerklib 0.5r355
[05:02] <Bastard> test
[05:02] <bobo37773> Bastard: See you
[05:02] <Bastard> thx
[05:03] <bobo37773> fishbait: You may have to wait until it gets fixed upstream
[05:03] <bobo37773> Bastard: welcome
[05:03] <nja> @burnt123 good luck with the printer.  I have to go now.
[05:04] <fishbait> yeah ur right
[05:05] <bobo37773> fishbait: You can disable the error boot messages if you want (assuming they are apport? related)
[05:06] <fishbait> don't know i'll just ignore them for now
[05:06] <bobo37773> How do you un-source something in your shell?
[05:07] <bobo37773> I always forget this
[05:08] <Sino> kalhmera :-)
[05:09] <bobo37773> Ah got it nevermind
[05:09] <Costeelation> how to update libreoffice to 3.5.5
[05:09] <Costeelation> ?
[05:09] <Costeelation> can help me?
[05:09] <Costeelation> in ubuntu 12.04
[05:10] <bobo37773> Have you looked at this already --> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-libreoffice-3-5-5-in-ubuntu-using-ppa.html
[05:10] <bobo37773> Costeelation: ^^
[05:10] <Costeelation> thanks man!!
[05:11] <bobo37773> Costeelation: Welcome. Just seached on Google.
[05:11] <Costeelation> yes but im search in spanish :S
[05:11] <Costeelation> no in english
[05:11] <bobo37773> Costeelation: Oh gotcha. Well I am happy to help
[05:12] <Costeelation> thanks so much :)
[05:12] <bobo37773> Costeelation: Anytime. de nada
[05:13] <bobo37773> Be good everyone. I'm outta here
[05:14] <Vercengettorix> Is it possible to set a restore point in Ubuntu? I'm about to try manually install video drivers
[05:16] <smallfoot-> manually install video driver usually not a good iea
[05:16] <smallfoot-> idea
[05:16] <Vercengettorix> yeah
[05:17] <Vercengettorix> there were some drivers available at the top of the screen, they didn't work and they're not there anymore
[05:17] <Vercengettorix> so yeah, do i try get them to work or do i install from the ATI website?
[05:18] <Vercengettorix> if I can do this I might celebrate with compiz fusion
[05:18] <Vercengettorix> woop
[05:20] <xiambax> Anyone have any idea on this Acer Aspire S5 that just came out? I want one but apparently ubuntu won't install on it yet because of hybrid drives
[05:20] <xiambax> ssd and platter combo maybe?
[05:21] <keith_> click the ubuntu button, and search for hardware
[05:21] <keith_> or drivers
[05:21] <keith_> you can get it back
[05:21] <keith_> also, don't use the post install ati drivers, they don't seem to work
[05:21] <keith_> try the other one
[05:21] <keith_> Vercengettorix
[05:21] <Vercengettorix> is there a benchmark prog like Everest for Linux?
[05:22] <Vercengettorix> i'm going to try man
[05:22] <Vercengettorix> you're right, they both don't work. I will try this other one
[05:27] <Pankaj> mis
[05:29] <linux_is_my_hero> what if i have a external hdd that my computer cannot see?  sata 2.5" in removable external case
[05:29] <linux_is_my_hero> usb 2.0
[05:30] <keith_> and
[05:31] <linux_is_my_hero> so what if i have an external that my computer can't find?
[05:32] <r4z0r> Xubuntu won't read my webcam, What do I do to correct this?
[05:38] <Derpian> r4z0r, have you tried cheese?
[05:40] <A_J> rofl Derpian
[05:40] <Derpian> A_J ?
[05:40] <khf> cheese is a webcam program
[05:40] <A_J> i know. but i found it funny
[05:40] <Derpian> Yes
[05:41] <Derpian> Yeah it actually sounded like I asked if he tried eating cheese
[05:41] <khf> cheese ia always funnay
[05:41] <A_J> yea lol
[05:41] <Derpian> but yeah r4zor, cheese is a great webcam program. I don't know if you have tried anything yet...
[05:41] <Derpian> sudo apt-get install cheese
[05:41] <keith_> no wine required
[05:42] <Derpian> good one keith_
[05:42] <keith_> :)
[05:42] <raikd> hi guys ... does anyone know in which user file the user's startup applications are mentioned ? Ubuntu
[05:43] <raikd> back-end filename
[05:44] <Nerf_Jihad> are you having trouble with the GUI manager?
[05:44] <vectorshelve> getting this error while trying to run sudo apt-get update http://pastie.org/4328438 help please
[05:44] <keith_> raikd, look here: ~/.config/autostart
[05:44] <raikd> no probs ... jus wanted to know the file :)
[05:45] <Derpian> vectorshelve, you need to find the public key for that PPA
[05:45] <crc32> is the gpm package no longer in ubuntu 12.04?
[05:46] <keith_> vectorshelve, well for one, you are using maverick which is not supported anymore... and you should upgrade, but that is besides the point ;)
[05:46] <khf> hey if I use ubuntu 10.04 for the aesthetic and utility of gnome 2 and the bleeding edge debianness of ubuntu, what should I update to?
[05:46] <Nerf_Jihad> vectorshelve: http://blog.launchpad.net/ppa/adding-a-ppas-key-to-ubuntu
[05:46] <Vercengettorix> can someone tell me if this is good and what to do next?  http://pastebin.com/cc5qF2Dz
[05:46] <Vercengettorix> re: video card
[05:46] <raikd> TY  keith_ :)
[05:47] <Nerf_Jihad> Vercengettorix: that's what it's supposed to do. I'd probably reboot
[05:47] <keith_> raikd your welcome
[05:47] <Vercengettorix> awesome bbs
[05:47] <kaushal> Hi
[05:48] <kaushal> is there a way to set "Away" status in pidgin when i lock my ubuntu linux 11.10 desktop?
[05:48] <Nerf_Jihad> kaushal: what's your question?
[05:48] <Nerf_Jihad> kaushal: it should automagically do that after a certain point
[05:48] <kaushal> Nerf_Jihad: any settings change?
[05:48] <Derpian> khf, GNOME 2 is gone but there is a fork called MATE. You could add their PPA/repo/whatever on their site. Forks usually don't last though so I'd recommend switching to Xubuntu, XFCE reminds me of GNOME 2 when you get rid of the dock panel (Which I recommend you do first thing when done installing.)
[05:48] <crc32> Where is the gpm package in ubuntu 12.04?
[05:49] <Nerf_Jihad> kaushal: if you want to specifically mess with it, it should be under Tools - Preferences - Status / Idle
[05:50] <khf> hrmm I might give xfce a go
[05:50] <khf> it is pretty mature right?
[05:50] <saifjunaid> sdf
[05:50] <crc32> can any one useing ubuntu 12.04 find the gpm package when they "apt-cache search gpm"?
[05:51] <keith_> khf, this might not be what you are looking for, but check out this article: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed
[05:51] <Nerf_Jihad> crc32: me, I found it
[05:52] <crc32> what repo is it in. I get "E: Unable to locate package gpm"
[05:53] <Nerf_Jihad> doesn't say which repo
[05:53] <keith_> khf, scroll down to the "How to" if you read the article
[05:53] <Derpian> what is the partner repository
[05:54] <Nerf_Jihad> try libgpm-dev libgpm2
[05:54] <crc32> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu precise partner
[05:54] <brianpWins> I've got a fistful of rails apps running on a ubuntu web server. WHen I restart the server (as expected) all the apps go down. My question is what is the best way to automatically re-launch all the rails apps on server restart?
[05:54] <Derpian> crc32, but what does it offer
[05:54] <brianpWins> ubuntu web server = a server running ubuntu and nginx
[05:55] <crc32> Derpian What do you mean? How would I see tht?
[05:55] <crc32> a
[05:55] <Derpian> crc32, what applications does the partner repository offer
[05:55] <keith_> brianpWins, init.d
[05:56] <crc32> I'm at the console. How can I see that? What command would I be useing to answer your question.
[05:56] <keith_> brianpWins, create an init.d script
[05:57] <brianpWins> keith_: cool I'll check it out. It's basically bash cmds to run from /etc/init.d on startup ?
[05:57] <crc32> ['cp
[05:57] <crc32> Whats goiing on with this release. I can't even install links2 or gpm
[05:58] <crc32> yet typing links2 yeilds a message suggesting I "apt-get install links2"
[05:58] <keith_> brianpWins, I think its a bit more complicated than just that, after you create the script there, you need to "register" it with a particular runlevel
[05:59] <brianpWins> keith_: run level noted. thanks for the info. I'll read up on it
[05:59] <crc32> What happened to the gpm package in ubuntu 12.04?
[06:00] <crc32> is links2 also missing from 12.04?
[06:00] <ghostchick> crc32,  gpm or gdm ?
[06:00] <crc32> gpm. The mouse daemon for console. And I can't find gdm either.
[06:01] <Vercengettorix> Well holy moley
[06:01] <crc32> E: Package 'gdm' has o installation candidate
[06:01] <crc32> WTF
[06:01] <ghostchick> crc32,  are you sure you activated all the repos
[06:01] <crc32> what efqw9i0 ['o
[06:01] <Vercengettorix> what on Earths planet is going on here?
[06:02] <crc32> what are the other repos?
[06:02] <Vercengettorix> I wish I could install knoppix
[06:02] <Vercengettorix> anywho
[06:02] <keith_> the live disc?
[06:02] <[Toto]> hello
[06:02] <Vercengettorix> Can someone help me, I've installed the drivers from the ATI website for my video card
[06:02] <Vercengettorix> yes keith_
[06:03] <[Toto]> i want to install  libpqxx-3.0 libpqxx3-dev libpqxx-dev
[06:03] <Vercengettorix> everything went simmingly in the install, no errors
[06:03] <[Toto]> yum cant find it
[06:03] <crc32> What repos do I add to get gdm gpm and any other worthwhile package
[06:03] <Vercengettorix> swimmingly**
[06:03] <Vercengettorix> however, when I reboot my monitor turns off and i'm left with a blank screen
[06:03] <keith_> [Toto], this is Ubuntu, we use apt not yum...
[06:04] <[Toto]> hmm
[06:04] <[Toto]> btw
[06:04] <Vercengettorix> why is this happening to me!?
[06:04] <Vercengettorix> why!?
[06:04] <Vercengettorix> I am a Toto control monster do you want me to kick him out?
[06:05] <keith_> ?
[06:05] <ghostchick> crc32,  in software sources checks if all the repos are  activated
[06:05] <keith_> i don't understand
[06:05] <Vercengettorix> keith_ can you help with my gfx card
[06:05] <[Toto]> ?
[06:05] <[Toto]> neah
[06:06] <crc32> ghostchick. Where is software sources. I'm stuck at the text command line. No X interface is running.
[06:06] <Vercengettorix> Dorothy isn't here
[06:06] <Vercengettorix> the knoppix cd gets everything going wtf is up with that
[06:06] <keith_> Vercengettorix, i don't have any experience installing graphics drivers from source
[06:07] <Vercengettorix> okay
[06:07] <keith_> or shall i say not from the repos
[06:07] <Vercengettorix> its a .run file
[06:07] <Vercengettorix> its cool
[06:07] <keith_> and you get a black screen on start up?
[06:07] <ghostchick> Vercengettorix,  why not the fglrx ?
[06:07] <Vercengettorix> I have to figure out how to rescue my computer from the black screen of death
[06:07] <ghostchick> crc32,  which ubuntu-version ?
[06:07] <Vercengettorix> ghostchick they don't work
[06:08] <crc32> 12.04
[06:08] <crc32> ghostchick: 12.04
[06:08] <Vercengettorix> it has installled with no errors
[06:08] <ghostchick> crc32,  why stuck on command line?
[06:08] <geirha> Vercengettorix: what has?
[06:08] <Vercengettorix> the ati driver
[06:08] <Vercengettorix> for my radeon graphics card
[06:08] <ghostchick> Vercengettorix,  chroot in the install and install the correct drivers
[06:08] <Vercengettorix> when i restart the computer the monitor just turns off
[06:09] <keith_> Vercengettorix: move /etc/X11/xorg.conf to xorg.conf.bak
[06:09] <keith_> and restart
[06:09] <crc32> ghostchick: Cause I don't have Xwindow GDM or any graphical tool installed.
[06:09] <ghostchick> crc32,  server edition?
[06:10] <[Toto]> well
[06:10] <crc32> I had to install from alternative just to get the root partition on LVM.
[06:10] <[Toto]> i can put libpqxx-3.0 libpqxx3-dev libpqxx-dev
[06:10] <[Toto]> to centos ?
[06:10] <Derpian> ghostchick: Either server edition or Ubuntu minimal
[06:11] <Derpian> or alternative
[06:11] <ghostchick> crc32,  well install the ubuntu-desktop it is the simplest path
[06:11] <[Toto]> http://pastie.org/4328565
[06:11] <crc32> ghostchick I'm guessing ubuntu-desktop will mangle my /etc/apt/sources.list so that it has real repos?
[06:11] <Derpian> crc32, join the dark side install xubuntu-desktop
[06:12] <ghostchick> crc32,  normally the repos in ubuntu desktop and server are kinda the same
[06:14] <crc32> ghostchick: E: Unable to locate package ubuntu-desktop
[06:14] <crc32> Clearly I need some repos.
[06:14] <ghostchick> pastebin the sourcelists
[06:14] <Derpian> i will
[06:16] <Derpian> crc32: http://pastebin.com/BCts0EMD
[06:16] <Derpian> crc32: if that site doesn't work. try this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109589/
[06:17] <crc32> no browser now links2 no gpm no synergy to use a mouse to cut and past. :|
[06:17] <Derpian> I took my CD-rom sources out
[06:18] <ghostchick> Derpian, are those the sourcelist of an ubuntu minimal ?
[06:18] <Derpian> ghostchick: No
[06:18] <Derpian> ghostchick: That's all the repos including the non-free ones
[06:19] <n2deep_> Hi, Does anyone have a link to a good guide on how to use a USB stick as a LUKS key to unlock a home partiton??
[06:20] <prateekp> i am working under proxy how to bypass proxy
[06:20] <Derpian> ghostchick: I am not sure what the source list for Ubuntu Minimal is but Ubuntu Minimal is really build your own thing to an extent so it would actually vary on person to person
[06:20] <ghostchick> crc32,  with nano go into sourceslist and uncomment  the repos then update
[06:20] <Derpian> ghostchick, all of them are uncommented.
[06:21] <crc32> do you h
[06:21] <ghostchick> Derpian, crc32,  if those are uncommented and the mirrors are ok , he should be able to install gpm
[06:22] <crc32> ghostchick: do you have a past been of the repos? I'll have to add them by hand.
[06:22] <Derpian> crc32, i have a paste up more
[06:23] <Derpian> crc32, http://pastebin.com/BCts0EMD
[06:23] <Derpian> ghostchick, his issue is he will have to add them all by hand
[06:23] <Derpian> ghostchick, since he cannot use a mouse and copy+paste
[06:23] <Derpian> crc32: run nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:23] <ghostchick> Derpian, from a livecd he can edit it also
[06:24] <Derpian> ghostchick, he couldn't use liveCD, I assume. He used alternative
[06:24] <crc32> Derpain how did you get the extra repo to work. I keep getting "NO_PUBKEY 16126D3A3E5C1192"
[06:25] <ghostchick> Derpian, the alternative is installed because he wanted to do a lvm , nothing prevent it to use those
[06:25] <Derpian> ghostchick, ah
[06:25] <Derpian> crc32, Well the extra won't be needed for ubuntu-desktop I believe. you can get the key later
[06:28] <animus> anybody here?
[06:28] <Derpian> I am
[06:28] <ghostchick> we are
[06:28] <ghostchick> they are maybe
[06:28] <islandmonkey> Howdy there
[06:38] <nando> hi
[06:40] <nando> que mata de patos aqui¡¡
[06:40] <alessandro> hi
[06:40] <alessandro> oi
[06:40] <alessandro> \o
[06:40] <nando> hi :)
[06:40] <dennis___> nando: Please talk English.
[06:40] <alessandro> nunca tem ninguem aqui
[06:40] <nando> ok englis
[06:40] <alessandro> ingles o cassete
[06:40] <alessandro> o.O
[06:41] <dennis___> nando: So everybody can understand what you are saying.
[06:41] <alessandro> english, yeah
[06:42] <nando> i was installed xubuntu 12.04 is very slow for me
[06:42] <nando> what version do you have?
[06:43] <islandmonkey> nando: RAM?
[06:45] <nando> ram 1 gb :(
[06:45] <railsraider> hi, I'm runnig ubuntu12.04 on RackSpace and I'm trying to automate the aptitude safe-upgrade -y --no-gui , but i get a gui that asks me   A new version of /boot/grub/menu.lst is available,  but the version installed currently has been locally modified.
[06:45] <nando> jej
[06:46] <railsraider> how can i tell it to keep it , do i need to use an answer file with debconf?
[06:46] <islandmonkey> Xubuntu (claims) that it can run on >256MB RAM. So what's your CPU?
[06:46] <nando> atlon very old
[06:47] <islandmonkey> So how old is your computer
[06:47] <nando> on debian is fast
[06:47] <nando> my pc -+ 10year old
[06:48] <islandmonkey> Crikey, that's real old. I suggest you try Lubuntu instead.
[06:48] <islandmonkey> Or, if that doesn't even work, check out Puppy Linux (http://puppylinux.org).
[06:49] <nando> i thing try openbox
[06:49] <psppwner300> look's like there's a fork stuck in the road
[06:50] <islandmonkey> Save it! Save it!
[06:51] <psppwner300> i ran over it
[06:51] <nando> puppy only have a account of root??
[06:52] <islandmonkey> nando: Yes
[06:53] <nando> its'n safe?
[06:54] <nando> i prefer seccion with out root
[06:54] <islandmonkey> nando: What about AntiX then?
[06:55] <kroaken> sudo dpkg --configure -a . WHY is my SYSTEM asking me this everytime i try to use apt-get ?!
[06:55] <kroaken> im confused
[06:55] <Fyodorovna> puppy has a password option, iy can be locked
[06:55] <Fyodorovna> it*
[06:55] <Derpian> why are we talking about puppy linux
[06:55] <Derpian> this is #ubuntu
[06:56] <islandmonkey> But I'm telling him other distros to go to
[06:56] <Derpian> ok
[06:56] <nando> password option?? where?? tell me pls
[06:56] <Derpian> Alright take it to #puppylinux
[06:57] <Derpian> If he used Lubuntu, it would be advised he go to #lubuntu for LXDE questions but for anything else this place or there is fine
[06:58] <nando> passwod option for puppy ...how can i do that?
[06:58] <nando> fyodor??
[06:59] <islandmonkey> ping Fyodorovna
[07:01] <islandmonkey> nando: He seems to be AFK.
[07:03] <nando> he is go...or dead? :)
[07:03] <islandmonkey> Nevermind.
[07:06] <islandmonkey> Unfortunately, http://puppylinux.com/development/howpuppyworks.html has a section called "Improved security" but it is said to be written.
[07:06] <islandmonkey> The only way to find out is to try it
[07:07] <nando> in fin this http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=21338
[07:10] <nando> islandmonkey see you later bay an thank  :)
[07:11] <islandmonkey> OK fun with puppy linux
[07:13]  * kroaken im so happy cuse tuday i fund a friend
[07:13] <kroaken> tralala
[07:14] <kroaken> :D
[07:14] <notk0> hello I updated to the latest ubuntu and sound doesn't work, I remember the version before it there was a problem with sound as well but I forgot how I fixed it
[07:14] <kroaken> is so borring apt-update taking ages :P
[07:15] <kroaken> notk0 use OSS
[07:15] <alo21> hi
[07:15] <kroaken> forget alsa
[07:15] <notk0> kroaken: and how do I do that?
[07:15] <kroaken> or you can take a look in alsamixer
[07:15] <kroaken> and se if its muted
[07:16] <notk0> kroaken: how do I look at the alsamixer?
[07:16] <kroaken> open a terminal notk0 and type alsamixer
[07:16] <crc32> Derpain: Thanks. Finally got the repos to work.
[07:16] <kroaken> take a look and see if you fix the problem
[07:16] <crc32> ghostchick: Thank you too. :)
[07:16] <Derpian> crc32, your welcome
[07:17] <Derpian> crc32, must have took forever to get all those down on paper
[07:17] <ghostchick> crc32,  it was the source list thing no?
[07:17] <kroaken> so you are in X enviroment notk0 ?
[07:17] <notk0> kroaken: yes
[07:17] <kroaken> ok notk0
[07:17] <kroaken> open a terminal and type alsamixer
[07:17] <notk0> kroaken: from alsamixer it seemed that the speaker was at 0 volume but I put it higher but doesn't seem to work
[07:17] <kroaken> learn to use it
[07:18] <kroaken> its pretty simple
[07:18] <kroaken> try "m"
[07:18] <kroaken> in all of them
[07:18] <kroaken> 00 vs M
[07:18] <notk0> if I press m it switched from MM to 0
[07:18] <notk0> 00 means muted?
[07:18] <kroaken> M = muted
[07:18] <notk0> I have two MM
[07:18] <notk0> they are all MM
[07:19] <kroaken> idd , meaing that was muted and now its connected but vol is low
[07:19] <kroaken> press F6
[07:19] <kroaken> and choose your board
[07:19] <crc32> Derpain: Worse I was trying to wget it from a remote server then sftp to my host machine. Then poof my cloud server borked on apt-get update because their mirrors broke. Too many stumbling blocks.
[07:19] <notk0> kroaken: for all? as in speaker master headphone?
[07:19] <fidel_> ahoi
[07:20] <ghostchick> I
[07:20] <kroaken> I dont understand what you are asking notk0 , take a deep breath and explore the var alsamixer =)
[07:20] <kroaken> it will work
[07:20] <kroaken> :)
[07:20] <notk0> kroaken: I think it works now, why did ubuntu mute it by default anyway?
[07:21] <kroaken> who knows :P
[07:21] <kroaken> maybe the coworks of unbuntu was in a bad mood, and muted the board
[07:21] <kroaken> :P
[07:22] <notk0> it actually set the sound output to my videocard hdmi audio output and muted my main card
[07:22]  * kroaken is free to help
[07:22] <notk0> but I think the sound is mono now
[07:22] <notk0> thank you for helping kroaken
[07:22] <kroaken> mono is also fine , but im not sure where you  change from mono to stereo
[07:22] <notk0> I ended up unmuting it through the GUI thing
[07:22] <kroaken> you welcome m9
[07:23] <kroaken> m8*
[07:23] <notk0> is there a way to check if it's stereo?
[07:23] <notk0> I think it's taking a channel and putting it on 2 speakers
[07:23] <francesco_> ciao
[07:23] <kroaken> btw notk0 you have fglrx installed?!
[07:23] <francesco_> !list
[07:23] <kroaken> im trying to install it atm
[07:23] <kroaken> but no luck with xorg
[07:24] <kroaken> <--------
[07:24] <notk0> kroaken: I don't think to have it, what does it do?
[07:24] <kroaken> it gives you 3D accel
[07:24] <kroaken> in grafics to play better as a gamer
[07:25] <notk0> kroaken: what GPU do you have? I heard intel ones are most open source friendly since the drivers are open source and stuff?
[07:25] <kroaken> i own a mac imac 21"5
[07:25] <notk0> oh
[07:25] <notk0> fglrx is for ati
[07:25] <kroaken> but i also like other computers
[07:25] <kroaken> it is idd
[07:25] <notk0> I installed the proprietary drivers
[07:25] <kroaken> ^^
[07:25] <notk0> I don't game under linux tho
[07:26] <kroaken> gl installing it
[07:26] <notk0> kroaken: the proprietary?
[07:26]  * kroaken free for chat
[07:26] <kroaken> aye
[07:26] <kroaken> gives you better performance
[07:27] <notk0> kroaken: it is installed? I even get the temperature from ati-config and output it thanks to conky
[07:27] <kroaken> yeh nice one
[07:27] <kroaken> conky is awsome
[07:27] <kroaken> if you got skill to work it :P
[07:27] <dazzel> i want to use a keyfile on my luks logical volume within a luks physical volume is that possible?
[07:27] <notk0> is there a benchmark thing to see how well my opengl works and stuff?
[07:28] <kroaken> nowdays ppl is using lvm and lvm2
[07:28] <notk0> kroaken: what games you wanted to play anyway? using wine?
[07:28] <dazzel> notk0: glxgears
[07:28] <dazzel> notk0: glxdemo
[07:28] <dazzel> notk0: glxinfo
[07:28] <kroaken> i dont need wine mate :P
[07:29] <kroaken> hehehe
[07:29] <kroaken> i play warsow competitive
[07:29] <kroaken> www.warsow.net
[07:29] <notk0> dazzel: I will take a look, glxdemo only draws a yellow square
[07:29] <notk0> XIO:  fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0"
[07:29] <notk0>       after 470 requests (470 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
[07:29] <notk0> lol
[07:30] <dazzel> notk0: that is normal since you closed the glx screen
[07:31] <kroaken> vladimir putin
[07:31] <dazzel> if your gears run smootly glx is runnig fine..
[07:31] <notk0> dazzel: I tried glxinfo, I tried verbose mode but I don't understand anything unfortunately I have a lot of nopes
[07:31] <kroaken> roflstomp
[07:31]  * kroaken be vewwy vewwy quiet i'm hunting lames..
[07:31] <dazzel> notk0, what videocard are you using / lspci
[07:31] <notk0> OpenGL renderer string: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series
[07:31] <kroaken> nvidia
[07:32] <kroaken> he told before
[07:32] <kroaken> serious ?
[07:32] <notk0> kroaken: yes?
[07:32] <kroaken> i need your help notk0
[07:32] <notk0> kroaken: help with what?
[07:32] <kroaken> :P
[07:32] <kroaken> i need to install catalyst
[07:32] <kroaken> fglrx
[07:32] <kroaken> for my ati
[07:32] <kroaken> :D
[07:32] <kroaken> An you GOING to help me
[07:32] <kroaken> ahaha\
[07:32] <FloodBot1> kroaken: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:32] <dazzel> notk0, better use the latest drivers from amd.com then..
[07:33] <kroaken> step by spte procedure
[07:33] <kroaken> :D
[07:33] <notk0> kroaken: I didn't install it manually ubuntu proposed to activate restricted drivers and I did? I don't even know if I have fglrx installed
[07:33] <notk0> dazzel: what does caveat mean?
[07:33]  * kroaken gently pat FloodBot1 
[07:33] <notk0> visualCaveat=None for all
[07:33] <kroaken> caviar ?
[07:33]  * kroaken is brb from the grave
[07:34] <Erwyn> la
[07:34] <dazzel> notk0, http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/caveat
[07:34] <Erwyn> jacta: so this transmission daemon?
[07:35] <notk0> dazzel: what does it mean in the context of glxinfo ? visual caution ?
[07:35] <hariom> I have got a IBM X3400 server from a friend of mine who was not using it. I don't have experience of installing Ubuntu Server (10.04 I am using) on server system like this (I have done on Laptop/Desktop and non raid server). How to install Ubuntu on it? It has Fedora install on it but I want to remove it and get Ubuntu working on it. I tried putting bootable CD and Pandrive but it doesn't pick up that and goes to pre install fedora.
[07:35] <jacta> Erwyn, seems like a good choise, but fucked up some settings and folders :\
[07:36] <Erwyn> jacta: arf… installation random shit :)
[07:36] <hariom> Advice/Direction/hand holding will be greatly appreciated
[07:36]  * kroaken ai ai ai ai ai i wann giveyou my luvie
[07:36] <jacta> Erwyn, ill get back to you soon :p
[07:36] <Erwyn> :)
[07:36] <DJones> !ot > kroaken
[07:37] <kroaken> (:
[07:37] <kroaken> okie
[07:37] <kroaken> ohh sorry
[07:37] <notk0> ati catalyst control centers tells me nothing about opengl
[07:37] <kroaken> im talking to much
[07:37] <kroaken> brb
[07:37] <notk0> kroaken: you have to have multiple nicks, thats how everyone does it around here
[07:38] <hariom> Anybody to help?
[07:38] <notk0> hariom: with what?
[07:39] <notk0> hariom: you have to modify the boot order in bios
[07:40] <notk0> hariom: before you boot from a live CD
[07:40] <hoky> hello, I have a small problem with my nvidia driver, is this right place to search help?
[07:40] <auronandace> !raid | hariom
[07:40] <notk0> hoky: YES
[07:40] <notk0> ubottu: he can't even boot the live cd
[07:40] <hariom> notk0: I have tried two options: Boot order and F12 and then selected bootable cd
[07:40] <hoky> thanks, well i am using ubuntu 12.04
[07:40] <notk0> hariom: and you can't boot from the cd?
[07:41] <hoky> and i have picture in full resolution
[07:41] <hoky> but motions are pretty lagy, and slow
[07:41] <hoky> i tried to install proprieaty drivers
[07:41] <Erwyn> !ask
[07:41] <notk0> hoky: so you installed ubuntu on it?
[07:41] <hoky> ok
[07:41] <hoky> yes
[07:41] <Erwyn> !ask | erwyn
[07:41] <notk0> hoky: and what is the problem ?
[07:42] <hoky> i get error when installing propriety driver
[07:42] <hoky> cant install
[07:42] <hariom> notk0: Yea, every time I tried to boot from bootable medium (tried with CD and USB drive), it goes directly to already installed Fedora
[07:42] <notk0> hariom: then you are not booting from it
[07:42] <hoky> this is the message
[07:42] <hoky> :"Sorry, installation of this driver failed.
[07:42] <hoky> Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log"
[07:43] <Erwyn> !wtf
[07:43] <auronandace> !botabuse | Erwyn
[07:43] <notk0> hoky: are you having trouble booting from the livecd or installing ?
[07:43] <notk0> why is wtf considered bad language?
[07:43] <hoky> no just problem with vga driver
[07:43] <Erwyn> notk0: Fuck maype?
[07:43] <hoky> system works fine
[07:44] <notk0> Erwyn: how can a person that doesn't know what it means is going to deduce that?
[07:44] <notk0> hoky: what videocard does it havae?
[07:44] <islandmonkey> !language | Erwyn
[07:44] <hoky> Nvidia Gforce 7300 LE
[07:44] <Erwyn> islandmonkey: are you kidding me?
[07:44] <notk0> Erwyn: it's maybe btw not maype
[07:44] <Derpian> !botsnack
[07:44] <Erwyn> notk0: Keyboard mistake
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> hoky: you can install it in cli with:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[07:45] <hoky> ok I will try it immediatly
[07:45] <islandmonkey> Erwyn: Do I need to tell you the !guidelines
[07:45] <notk0> I would recommend typing sudo rm -rf /  then typing your password
[07:45] <Tm_T> !danger
[07:45] <islandmonkey> !guidelines > Erywn
[07:45] <notk0> oh common it was a friendly joke
[07:46] <chu> It's really not.
[07:46] <B0073D> Bahahaha
[07:46] <Tm_T> notk0: this is channel for support, not jokes, further discussion in this matter happens on #ubuntu-ops, thanks
[07:46] <B0073D> I have run that a couple of times. Always fun to watch. Though as said, DO NOT RUN IT.
[07:46] <brophat> should I do some wifi card configuring?
[07:46] <Erwyn> islandmonkey: I don't think so, do I need to remember you that it was an answer to notk0 about WTF?
[07:47] <Derpian> notk0, this is a support channel for new users and advanced users. Find another channel for advanced users (who also need support) who know a joke and what is not one.
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> notk0: not funny at all
[07:47] <notk0> Erwyn: wtf is an acronym that can mean multiple things, on it's own it's not in any way bad language
[07:47] <notk0> ActionParsnip: maybe you lack sense of humour
[07:47] <Derpian> !language | notk0
[07:47] <islandmonkey> Erwyn: No, but you said f**k
[07:47] <Tm_T> notk0: last warning, continuing the discussion here will lead to removal
[07:47] <notk0> Derpian: http://www.wtf.org/wtf_eng/main/main_eng.html World Taekwondo Federation
[07:48] <Tm_T> islandmonkey: also, no need to continue
[07:48] <notk0> also Derpian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WTF
[07:48] <Derpian> notk0: I doubt it was used in that context.
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> notk0: no, I really do, it's just not funny, or appropriate
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> thanks
[07:51] <Erwyn> is there a factoid to search on wiki?
[07:51] <auronandace> !botabuse | Erwyn
[07:52] <Erwyn> auronandace: do you know another command?
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> Erwyn: do you mean to search wikipedia itself?
[07:52] <auronandace> !bot | Erwyn
[07:52] <islandmonkey> Erwyn: Plus there is a list of factoids at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[07:53] <Erwyn> ActionParsnip: hum not wikipedia but ubuntu users wiki
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> Erwyn: you can search packages for files and names as well as trigger factoids listed ojn the factoids.cgi page given
[07:54] <Erwyn> I ask cause on archlinux's channel they got one doing such thingse and it could be useful that's all
[07:54] <Erwyn> ActionParsnip: okay
[07:57] <Lakii> hello
[07:59] <ms-studio> looking for help after upgrade failure from 10.04 > 12.04, making machine unbootable (even from live CD)
[07:59] <ms-studio> the issue is described here : http://askubuntu.com/questions/134148/fail-upgrade-from-10-04-to-12-04-unbootable-from-usb-or-live-cd/167835
[07:59] <hoky> now i have the smoothnes but, with lower screen resolution...
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> ms-studio: can you boot to root recovery mode?
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> hoky: run:  nvidia-settings
[08:01] <ms-studio> root recovery mode: not sure how that works
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> ms-studio: hold SHIFT at boot, select recovery mode, select root
[08:02] <ms-studio> this one i tried already, same thing
[08:02] <hoky> it says :"You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server."
[08:02] <zetheroo> is there an option when working with the diff command which enables you to see the progress?
[08:02] <hoky> and when i do that i get another error
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> hoky: try:  sudo nvidia-xconfig
[08:03] <hoky> WARNING: Unable to locate/open X configuration file.
[08:04] <Erwyn> ms-studio: when you say that your usb or cd is not bootable
[08:04] <Erwyn> ms-studio: did you ensure that you were able to boot them on other computers?
[08:06] <ms-studio> boot process starts, but stops after a minute - so i asume it *is* able to boot
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> hoky: it'll make the file, reboot to test
[08:06] <Erwyn> ms-studio: please ensure it, take your usb key (don't like cd), plug it into another computer and try to boot the jive
[08:06] <univac> Hi guys
[08:06] <Erwyn> live*
[08:07] <ms-studio> Erwyn: ok, will try that
[08:07] <Erwyn> ms-studio: thanks, then get back to me, if it's not working I'll explain you how to build proper key easily, if it is, we'll try to investigate someting else
[08:09] <B0073D> I saw someone mention the 'advanced user help' channel?
[08:09] <B0073D> What was it again?
[08:09] <notk0> B0073D: maybe #linux ?
[08:09] <B0073D> Hehehe that'd be right.
[08:09] <crc32> omg. How do I get to the command line from unity?
[08:10] <zetheroo> is there an option when working with the diff command which enables you to see the progress?
[08:10] <auronandace> crc32: tap the super key and type terminal
[08:11] <crc32> I guess super means alt?
[08:11] <auronandace> crc32: the windows logo
[08:11] <Derpian> Super usually is the Operating system we don't say key
[08:12] <Derpian> You can get replacement keys with other logos and such on it
[08:14] <Erwyn> crc32: you wants a terminal?
[08:14] <Erwyn> want*
[08:16] <chmac> Is there a command somewhere to "compact" my local evolution folders? I've noticed my imap account is taking >600M of disk space locally, but there's only <20M of email in there.
[08:17] <somethinginteres> plugging USB stick into usb hub. USB isn't mounted dmesg [22552.304275] hub 2-4:1.0: hub_port_status failed (err = -110). ideas?
[08:17] <Erwyn> crc32: and no super means "meta"
[08:17] <marc> flash doesn't work, just shows a black box instead. I've tried a lot of things such as reinstalling and the firefox flash-aid plug-in, but to no avail. Can anyone give me a hint on what to do? Otherwise I'll have to reinstall and I'd rather not.
[08:18] <brophat> how do i know if my wifi card is using g or n?
[08:18] <Erwyn> marc: you reinstalled firefox or flash?
[08:19] <marc> Erwyn, flash
[08:19] <Erwyn> marc: blackbox or saying not installed?
[08:19] <marc> Erwyn, black box
[08:20] <marc> there is no box saying: flash is not installed, please download it from the adobe web site
[08:20] <Erwyn> marc: not sure of what it is, but apt-get remove --purge yourflashplugin
[08:20] <Erwyn> then for test purpose
[08:20] <Erwyn> apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:20] <moj0rising> hi, there. I'm wondering if anyone might hav e some insight on why my ethernet adapters are unable to connect to my network in Ubuntu Server. They all do with OpenSuSE so I know they work but not sure what the deal is w/ them in Ubuntu.
[08:21] <Erwyn> if you have another browser like chromium, try it also
[08:21] <notk0> or lynx, the browser that most ubuntu users actually use
[08:22] <Erwyn> marc: I remember having troubles with firefox on linuxmint, which is based on ubuntu
[08:22] <Erwyn> marc so try another browser too
[08:22] <notk0> Erwyn: what problems?
[08:22] <Erwyn> the same
[08:23] <notk0> I never had any browser problems on ubuntu or linux mint
[08:23] <Erwyn> lucky you
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> marc: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[08:23] <notk0> Erwyn: you still have problems?
[08:23] <Erwyn> no
[08:24] <moj0rising> Firefox has always worked for me. My only browser problems in the past were that Konqueror and Rekonq crash pretty regularly. So I use firefox.
[08:26] <marc> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109708/
[08:27] <\Jan> sudo apt-get purge gnash gnash-common
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> marc: sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer flashplugin-nonfree; sudo dpkg -P gnash gnash-common
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> marc: then run:  sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:28] <marc> ok
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> marc: Natty is EOL in October. You may want to consider updating to a newer install
[08:28] <\Jan> Er, couldn't he have just purged gnash and ghash-common?
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> \Jan: I like to clean it all out :)
[08:29] <kselltrum> I have a problem with Aver A169. Driver fail and not connect to videodev. OS: ubuntu 12.04 v4l updated from git
[08:29] <Erwyn> ActionParsnip: why dpkg -P? instead of apt-get remove --purge?
[08:29] <\Jan> ┐('～`；)┌
[08:29] <\Jan> That's sort of what I was wondering
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> Erwyn: the gnash and gnash-common packages have residual configs (hence rc instead of ii), so the command will remove the files and clean the OS
[08:30] <oscarvarto> Hi! I just installed Ubuntu 12.04 and I'm having trouble with CUDA installation. Any clues?
[08:30] <\Jan> but apt-get purge removes config files
[08:31] <\Jan> purge          purge is identical to remove except that packages are removed and purged (any configuration files are deleted too).            <-- From the man page
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> oscarvarto: http://askubuntu.com/questions/158822/installing-cuda-on-ubuntu-12-04-with-nvidia-driver-295-59
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> \Jan: its an old habit, doesn't hurt
[08:32] <hetii> Hi :)
[08:32] <hetii> I try run installation of windows xp under ubuntu kvm that use qemu and i got blue screen with message SESSION3_INITIALIZATION_FAILED ....stop 0x0000006F
[08:32] <marc> still no good guys :(
[08:32] <Ben64> I can't get rbot to respond to anything on irc in 12.04
[08:33] <Erwyn> marc: try another browser please. apt-get install chromium
[08:33] <Sling> hetii: what did the people in ##windows say?
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> Erwyn: chromium-browser
[08:33] <hetii> Sling:  need ask them first :>
[08:34] <Erwyn> ActionParsnip: how do you ask ubuntulog ?
[08:34] <Erwyn> sorry
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> Erwyn: wrong target?
[08:34] <Erwyn> ActionParsnip: ubottu
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> hehe
[08:34] <Erwyn> looking for factoids but it's quite a mess
[08:35] <Erwyn> to find how to browse packages
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> Erwyn: try:  !find packagename
[08:35] <Erwyn> huhu
[08:35] <Erwyn> thx
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> Erwyn: works fr files inside packages too
[08:36] <Erwyn> cool!
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> indeed
[08:41] <Erwyn> the very anoying point of this channel is its traffic of
[08:41] <Erwyn> connection disctonnection
[08:41] <marc__> true
[08:41] <DJones> Erwyn: You can hide joins & parts in most irc clients
[08:41] <oscarvarto> ActionParsnip: I don't get it. Should I expect errors while compiling SDK?
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> erenrich:
[08:42] <Erwyn> marc__: did you install chromium?
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> Erwyn: you can block that in your client
[08:42] <islandmonkey> Anybody know how to do that in smuxi
[08:42] <marc__> Erwyn: I'll give it a try
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> oscarvarto: never used one, sorry
[08:42] <Erwyn> okay, to be sure it is firefox and not something else
[08:43] <kroaken> what the hell is ruby gems ? oO
[08:43] <Erwyn> kroaken: ruby "plugins"
[08:43] <Erwyn> I say "plugins"
[08:43] <islandmonkey> Also:
[08:44] <islandmonkey> !ot | kroaken
[08:44] <Erwyn> it's not exactly what it is, but it is the idea
[08:44] <[Toto]> Your apache server has no PgSQL support built-in.
[08:44] <[Toto]> how i do it ?
[08:48] <Erwyn> okay I configure ignores…m
[08:48] <Erwyn> *silence*
[08:49] <islandmonkey> Wish I could do such thing in Smuxi
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> [Toto]: do you have libapache2-mod-auth-pgsql installed?
[08:49] <jacta> ActionParsnip, do you remember what the name of the trackpad-daemon was? :)
[08:50] <Erwyn> islandmonkey: http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/Hide_join_part_messages
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> jacta: synaptic maybe...
[08:53] <pg_> anybody ever patched a file before? I'm applying a patch as in "patch -p0 <patch_file.patch", but it always asks me  "File to patch:"
[08:53] <pg_> tried with -p1, but same shit
[08:53] <marc__> Erwyn, ok chromium installed, but now to get flash there?
[08:53] <jacta> there was one build-in, to disable touchpad while typing, think you helped me find it last time
[08:53] <sandieg> hey i was notified to do software update i didnt use computer since last night and now it says waiting for lock i did reboot 3 times now and says waiting for lock ...im not doing any other installation
[08:53] <Erwyn> marc__: it should be there by default
[08:53] <Erwyn> marc__: no?
[08:54] <marc__> Erwyn, this one does say: 'missing plugin'
[08:54] <Erwyn> What!?!
[08:55] <sandieg> NOw it ask me so issue the command sudo dpkg -- configure -a
[08:55] <sandieg> ffs what is this !
[08:55] <sandieg> i cant install nothing with pkg-get or aptitude
[08:55] <bz> pg_: what's `pwd`? and perhaps we could have a look at that patch file
[08:56] <bobweaver> sandieg,  sounds like apt is funky (dpkg ) is the b ack end for apt
[08:56] <pg_> well, the patch is in the root directory of a project
[08:57] <pg_> bz: and the three files that need to be patched (in one patch) are in different directoriews
[08:57] <pg_> bz: the patch: http://guake.org/attachment/ticket/124/0001-Add-capability-to-set-up-monitor.patch
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> sandieg: can you run the commmand and pastebin the output please
[08:59] <marc__> well, I guess I'd better do a clean install  :(
[09:00] <bz> pg_: so i assume your dir struct looks like: proj_dir/src, proj_dir/data, no?
[09:01] <pg_> bz: yes
[09:02] <bz> pg_: so, cd proj_dir, wget http://guake.org/attachment/ticket/124/0001-Add-capability-to-set-up-monitor.patch, patch < 0001-Add-capability-to-set-up-monitor.patch doesn't work?
[09:02] <pg_> no
[09:02] <pg_> bz: no
[09:02] <fidel_> hi - how is the experience with upgrading from 10.04 lts to 12.04.01 which should be released since 19th of this month
[09:02] <pg_> bz: i doesnt work from src/ or ../proj_dir folder either
[09:03] <fidel_> afaik 12.04.1 should be the first v12.04 version which is supposed to be used for direct upgrade from lts to lts ...right?
[09:03] <bobweaver> +1 | fidel
[09:03] <fidel_> bobweaver: +1 as in? ;)
[09:04] <Erwyn> marc__: i guess too
[09:04] <Siegel> hello, i've installed ubuntu 12.04 LTS and my wireless seems to be not installed. how do i go about fixing that problem?
[09:04] <diverdude> hmm i have inserted a network card in my computer, but it seems that when i write ifconfig its not shown. Do i have to enable it somehow?
[09:04] <Erwyn> marc__: if it's not to much troubles
[09:05] <bobweaver> lol fidel_  yes there is that comming out I was trying to get the botts attention to show you that there is a Ubuntu+1 channel that handles cpnvo like that. IMHO I love Unity and had no trouble with upgrade but then again I also backed up all y stuff 1st
[09:05] <fidel_> bobweaver: i am not talking about unity to be honest
[09:06] <fidel_> and the question is related to 12.04 so i expect this channel to be the right place ...or am i wrong?
[09:06] <bobweaver> troll
[09:06] <bz> pg_: you sure executing patch -p1 < yourpatch.patch from proj_dir doesn't work?
[09:06] <bobweaver> sorry wrong channel :(
[09:07] <bz> pg_: i just tested the whole thing and it worked fine here
[09:07] <fidel_> ? i am just asking about user experiences regrding direct upgrade from lts to lts ...i dont see that as any troll-related thing bobweaver
[09:07] <bobweaver> fidel_,  read up plz like I said (<bobweaver> sorry wrong channel :( )
[09:07] <pg_> bz: ill try it again
[09:08] <ivosq> Hi I just bought a Steelseries 6gv2 keyboard but the control-key to the left only works in ubuntu menus, it does not work in programs like sublime text 2 for example. I have tried changing the layout  and going to System Settings / Keyboard / Typing tab / Layout Settings / Layouts tab / Options to fix it but I cant get it to work. Is there any program for this or do I just have to try harder in the ubuntu settings menus? ^^
[09:08] <bz> pg_: cd proj_dir; wget http://guake.org/raw-attachment/ticket/124/0001-Add-capability-to-set-up-monitor.patch; patch -p1 < 0001-Add-capability-to-set-up-monitor.patch
[09:08] <fabio> hi
[09:08] <bobweaver> fidel_,  I will tell you what I tell every one Backup your stuff then when you think that you are ready it is time for you to back up for a few minutes to make sure all is good
[09:10] <pg_> bz: when I do the patch -p1 command it says "File to patch:", ill send you the output
[09:10] <bz> pg_: you know what?
[09:10] <bz> pg_: ls -R
[09:10] <bz> gimme that output
[09:10] <pg_> bz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109759/
[09:11] <Siegel> how do i start up terminal on 12.04 with unity? cant find applications
[09:11] <bz> pg_: ls -R :>
[09:11] <bobweaver> ctrl+alt+t
[09:11] <bz> pg_: also, it looks like you've got the wrong version of target files
[09:12] <bz> pg_: notice the "hunk 1 failed at 1"
[09:12] <pg_> bz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109762/
[09:12] <pg_> bz: yes
[09:12] <bobweaver> Siegel,  or type "gnome-terminal "  in thye dash of Unity
[09:12] <Siegel> bobweaver: thanks it worked
[09:12] <Siegel> bobweaver: im going back to gnomeo shell just waiting for updates to dl
[09:13] <pg_> bz: when i use patch -p0 it doesnt fail, but still asks for the file
[09:13] <bobweaver> np Siegel have a good one
[09:13] <nja> hello again all
[09:13] <bobweaver> Siegel,  gnome-throwback ?
[09:13] <bz> pg_: notice the utter non-existence of src/guake.py
[09:13] <bz> pg_: hence /usr/bin/patch complaining
[09:14] <bz> pg_: i bet you renamed src/guake.py to src/guake :p
[09:14] <Siegel> bobweaver: what is throwback?
[09:14] <Glowball> How can I easily install Oracle Java 7? I'm on Ubuntu 12.04.
[09:14] <bobweaver> Siegel,  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed
[09:14] <pg_> bz: havent even checked for that! this is clean package, didnt change anything
[09:15] <diverdude> how do i install gnome in ubuntu-server? just apt-get install gnome?
[09:15] <pg_> bz: i guess the structure changed, because the patches are 3 years old
[09:15] <Erwyn> diverdude: why would you do such thing?
[09:15] <bobweaver> diverdude,  there is still gnome-core  ?
[09:15] <Siegel> bobweaver: oh cool. still working on my more serious problem, wireless card got uninstalled on installing 12.04
[09:15] <bobweaver> !info gnome-core
[09:15] <bz> pg_: like i said, different target versions
[09:16] <bobweaver> Siegel,  what is card ?
[09:16] <nja> Anyone here know how to get Tribes: Ascend running under wine?
[09:16] <pg_> bz: ok :) now i get it
[09:16] <bz> pg_: if you wanna force it, just feed it "src/guake" when it asks for file to patch
[09:16] <bz> pg_: should be interesting results
[09:16] <diverdude> Erwyn: ohh its complicated. long story short. i have a special cam which requires a special nci, i only have such nci in my old server, the cam has a closed source config program which uses a gui
[09:16] <golden_fish> i need a program that can talk to me :)
[09:16] <pg_> bz: thanks a lot, hehe, yeah, using --force is always adventureous
[09:17] <golden_fish> just to try
[09:17] <fabio> i've installed lubuntu without internet then when i started lubuntusoftupdate the screen become black
[09:17] <bz> pg_: np.
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> fabio: if you run:  sudo apt-get update     is it smooth?
[09:17] <bobweaver> !info gespeaker
[09:17] <fabio> now i control
[09:18] <Siegel> bobweaver: bmc4318, waiting for updates to finish so i can install the  b43 packages
[09:19] <Siegel> bobweaver: using these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43%20-%20Internet%20access
[09:19] <fabio> action it's loading
[09:19] <Siegel> ill stick around to let you know if it worked
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> fabio: if it's ok then run:  sudo apt-get upgrade   and it may help
[09:19] <golden_fish> any program that can  answer me when i give him any message
[09:19] <golden_fish> i need it open source
[09:20] <golden_fish> like talker software
[09:20] <bobweaver> golden_fish,  like gespeaker
[09:20] <rich97> anyone know of an alternative to https://github.com/sigurdga/gnome-terminal-colors-solarized? I like the idea of a consitent colour scheme across terminal applications but I hate the colours they've chosen.
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> golden_fish: espeak can do text to speech, if that's what you mean...
[09:20] <golden_fish> yes
[09:20] <rich97> And I'm crap at modifiny my colours
[09:20] <golden_fish> how to get it
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> golden_fish: same way you install any other package
[09:20] <golden_fish> ok , thanks
[09:21] <bobweaver> it is in the softwarecenter it is called  gespeaker it is the front end for espeak
[09:21] <golden_fish> i love the people her :)
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> !info festival
[09:21] <golden_fish> here
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> golden_fish: there is also festival
[09:22] <fabio> action i've done --> sudo apt-get upgrade results all 0 it's ok?
[09:22] <golden_fish> are they open source
[09:22] <golden_fish> ?
[09:22] <bobweaver> ActionParsnip,  I have not tried that installing now to test out :) thanks from me also
[09:23] <bobweaver> golden_fish,  you can see any copy{left,right}  in the debian package under debian/copyright
[09:23] <bobweaver> apt-get source <name of package> then  open that file that I said above it has all the copy{right,left} info
[09:24] <golden_fish> bobweaver ; okay, thanks, i see that, i will try them all, and i will be right back
[09:24] <bobweaver> I am sure that there is also a dpkg or apt command that also does that not sure thou
[09:24] <golden_fish> :)
[09:25] <fabio> action i've done that command line results all 0, it's ok?
[09:26] <geirha> All packages should install a copyright notice under /usr/share/doc/package-name/
[09:31] <jacta> ActionParsnip, you dont remember? you're using duckduckgo?
[09:31] <bz> zomg, another duckduckgoer
[09:32] <islandmonkey> I'm using DuckDuckGo as well
[09:33] <nja> Woop DuckDuckGo!
[09:33] <SeH> Hello
[09:34] <MonkeyDust> islandmonkey  me too
[09:34] <freakwent> hey I've been reading up on ubuntu support for fakeraid.  I'm a bit confused by a system I have
[09:34] <freakwent> Windows sees two discrete drives, separate.
[09:34] <freakwent> The RAID features are off in the BIOS
[09:34] <SeH> I use ubuntu 12.04 with genome classic no effects there is a way to modify toolbar place and it size!!!
[09:34] <freakwent> Ubuntu sees hda and hdb as discrete devices
[09:34] <golden_fish> this is so cool, i try gespeaker, i like it :)
[09:35] <MonkeyDust> SeH  that is correct
[09:35] <freakwent> 'mount' reports that only one is mounted as /
[09:35] <freakwent> however if I mount the other at /mnt/test
[09:35] <freakwent> and touch /mnt/test/FILE
[09:35] <freakwent> then I can see /FILE
[09:35] <MonkeyDust> SeH  install xfce and use that, instead, it can be modified more
[09:35] <freakwent> appear on the other drive.
[09:36] <prateekp> hey i am not able to remove openssl issue
[09:37] <prateekp> while i do rails server i get an error .... https://gist.github.com/3175302
[09:37] <freakwent> does anyone have experience with this sort of fakeraid phenomenon?  I'm expecting and intending to have separate devices.
[09:37] <rails> prateekp: do you have openssl installed?
[09:37] <freakwent> I woulnd't mind so much but it often won't boot so I'm suspecting there's a strange race condition at some stage in the boot process
[09:38] <prateekp> yes
[09:39] <rails> prateekp: and libssl-dev?
[09:39] <prateekp> rails : how to instal libssl-dev
[09:39] <prateekp> may be i havent installed
[09:39] <rails> sudo apt-get install libssl-dev
[09:39] <mi3> prateekp: sudo apt-get install libssl-dev
[09:40] <mi3> !beginners | prateekp
[09:40]  * rails sits on mi3
[09:40] <mi3> lol
[09:42] <golden_fish> shall i install MouseTrap on my ubuntu 12.04 or it won't work, 7 of 7 people said it won't work ?
[09:43] <freakwent> so how can I convince ubuntu to stop using the fakeraid without losing any data?
[09:43] <Erwyn> freakwent: try diplomacy
[09:44] <MonkeyDust> freakwent  you can report a bug if needed
[09:44] <prateekp> mi3 : i am still getting the sameerror
[09:44] <mi3> prateekp: whats the error ?
[09:45] <prateekp> https://gist.github.com/3175302
[09:45] <nlko> hi guys, im trying to get java applets working with either chrome or firefox..no idea what to do
[09:45] <nlko> but need it for remote access
[09:45] <Erwyn> nlko: installed java?
[09:45] <golden_fish> guys, shall i install MouseTrap on my ubuntu 12.04 or it won't work, 7 of 7 people said it won't work ?
[09:46] <mi3> prateekp: I cant help, sorry, I dont know what its about :(
[09:46] <nlko> yes, i have the jdk downloaded which includes the jre and java home is set
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> nlko: i use this: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[09:46] <MonkeyDust> golden_fish  install it, if it doesnt work, remove it
[09:46] <MonkeyDust> golden_fish  install it, if it doesnt work, remove it and report a bug
[09:46] <prateekp> i am getting an error while i do rails server https://gist.github.com/3175302
[09:46] <golden_fish> okay , okay :)
[09:47] <k4v> wo stell ich denn mal gnome xchat auf utf8 um?
[09:47] <MonkeyDust> !de
[09:47] <k4v> sorr
[09:47] <k4v> y
[09:47] <nlko> ActionParsnip: will that give me java applet in the browser?
[09:47] <Erwyn> nlko: normally yes
[09:48] <nlko> ok, il do that. but out of interest, i already java sun java 7 jdk and jre downloaded to /opt, what would i need to do for the brwoser to know about this for its applets?
[09:50] <rails> prateekp
[09:50] <rails> rvm package install openssl
[09:50] <rails> rvm remove 1.9.2
[09:50] <rails> rvm install 1.9.2 --with-openssl-dir=$HOME/.rvm/usr
[09:50] <rails> tht should fix it
[09:51] <golden_fish> report for MouseTrap : not working :)
[09:52] <Seryth> I need to completely purge anything to do with b43 and b43-fwcutter, and b43-legacy. I've already apt-get purged them, but I need to remove any leftover config files etc. Where are they stored?
[09:54] <bobweaver> Seryth,  firmware-b43-install bcmwl-kernel-source ?
[09:54] <Seryth> bobweaver: I mean, what location...what dir are they in?
[09:55] <bobweaver> Seryth,  they are moduals in kernel I thought so a simple apt-get --purge remove      sould do the trick   firmware is under /lib/firmare but for reall apt sould handle it all
[09:56] <Seryth> bobweaver: Ah okay, thanks
[09:57] <bobweaver> Seryth,  I have seen alot of times that jockey gets confused and installs the wl is that installed ?  lsmod | grep wl
[09:57] <railsraider> anyone knows a good utility to see the disk usage in terminal, i'm getting lost with du -h
[09:57] <bobweaver> with broadcom cards that is ^^
[09:57] <bobweaver> df -h     ?
[09:58] <Seryth> bobweaver: No result :/
[09:58] <bobweaver> Seryth,  good
[09:58] <Seryth> bobweaver: I just needed to remove everything so that I could go through the setup of b43legacy again
[09:59] <railsraider> bobweaver:  how do i drill down and see folder size i don't wanna see a list of all files just size of folder
[09:59] <bobweaver> Seryth,  can you post a lspci -nn | grep 14e4 && lsmod        then pastebin that the bot will tell you more
[09:59] <bobweaver> !pastebin |  Seryth
[09:59] <Seryth> bobweaver: Yeah, I've already got pastebinit, thanks
[09:59] <Seryth> :P
[09:59] <bobweaver> :)
[10:00] <bobweaver> railsraider,  you have no gui ?
[10:00] <railsraider> no
[10:00] <n8lag> me neither
[10:00] <Seryth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109826/ bobweaver
[10:00] <n8lag> we don' need no steenkin gue
[10:00] <railsraider> wonder if theres a until that does that in a terminal window
[10:01] <bobweaver> Seryth,  lspci -nn | grep 14e4           plz :)
[10:01] <Seryth> bobweaver: Uh, that's what I did, no?
[10:01] <Seryth> Oh, I did lsmod too
[10:01] <bobweaver> nope just lsmod showed up :(
[10:02] <Seryth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109829/ same result this time too bobweaver ...O.o
[10:02] <n8lag> who do i ask to turn the latest version of edbrowse into an apt-get package?  ty
[10:03] <Hyperbyte> I have a Precise system which is really slow during disk operations... cpu waiting, i/o timeouts... I'm quite sure the disk is fine though... hdparm -t /dev/sda also reports a speed of 85 MB/sec... any hints on what might be wrong and how I can resolve this?
[10:03] <MonkeyDust> n8lag  you mean a .deb package?
[10:04] <n8lag> i guess.  not up on the jargon.  but anyway, a package i can install with apt-get
[10:05] <Erwyn> n8lag: you ask the software developper or a packager
[10:05] <MonkeyDust> n8lag  maybe the repos contain something similar to it
[10:05] <Erwyn> n8lag: or you simply compile it
[10:05] <Erwyn> no need to package
[10:05] <n8lag> whats repos?
[10:06] <MonkeyDust> n8lag  software sources
[10:06] <Seryth> bobweaver: Well, now that I've purged b43*, should I follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx now? I've actually got internet on cable atm, so I can install following that
[10:06] <n8lag> ok, i can whine at the guy who maintainw it. hope he doesnt say call the ubuntu ppl :)
[10:07] <MonkeyDust> what's edbrowse?
[10:07] <bobweaver> Seryth,  I wrote this about broadcom here might help :)   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10796508
[10:07] <bobweaver> Post #44 ^^
[10:07] <n8lag> edbrowse is a editor / mail client / browser alll in one.  based on ed.  line editor
[10:08] <amory> I have question for my Quadro 4000 on Ubuntu 12.04  Sometimes the computer freezes and I need to reboot the system
[10:08] <Seryth> bobweaver: Thankyou :) I've got to use the b43legacy drivers though....does your page cover that?
[10:08] <bobweaver> Seryth,  all things broadcoom kinda need to re-write it
[10:09] <Seryth> bobweaver: True words :( but it's the only way I've got to access the net atm, so I'm gonna have to get it working :/ (it worked before, until I updated to 64bit
[10:09] <Seryth> )
[10:10] <bobweaver> Seryth,  I thought that all the legacy driver was was just different firmware aka firmware-b43legacy-installer
[10:11] <Seryth> bobweaver: I think so, but I'm following your page now. I don't feel lost anymore! (But if it doesn't work, I'll hunt you down....>:))
[10:11] <bobweaver> lol
[10:11] <Seryth> bobweaver: I've spent two days trying to fix this :(
[10:11] <bobweaver>  you know where to find me :)
[10:12] <n8lag> ok, one more.  when i play an audio cd with mplayer, it plays a few seconds then pauses, plays then  pauses, ... but vlc plays it fine.  any idea why mplayer does that?
[10:12] <n8lag> im running ubuntu lucid 64bit
[10:14] <Weed37> have a netbook is their aversion of ubuntu that is built for netbooks ?
[10:14] <samba35> which is best pop3 client ? i am getting error with thunderbird "unable to locate mail spool file"
[10:16] <Seryth> http://imgur.com/xxTFv bobweaver Is that a normal result for that command? Like, I would expect those drivers to not be listed, seeing as I just purged them (the b43 ones)
[10:17] <n8lag> ty elves
[10:18] <Seryth> bobweaver: Or is that saying the drivers I *need*?
[10:19] <bobweaver> yup now is rmmod and restart it      sudo rmmod b43legacy && sudo modprobe b43legacy
[10:19] <bobweaver> do you have wireless if not lets see dmesg | grep b43
[10:21] <Seryth> bobweaver: I've gotta apt-get install the right things first! :P
[10:21] <captainfurious> is there a way to save status of workspace
[10:21] <root_> yes
[10:21] <captainfurious> so i can start up all my open apps automatically
[10:21] <captainfurious> restart*
[10:22] <captainfurious> how
[10:22] <root_> i dont now
[10:22] <bobweaver> Seryth,  :/  lets see     apt-cache policy b43legacy          is it installed ?
[10:23] <Seryth> N: Unable to locate package b43legacy
[10:23] <Seryth> bobweaver: ^
[10:23] <bobweaver> Seryth,  apt-cache policy firmware-b43legacy-installer
[10:23] <Seryth> bobweaver: I need to do sudo apt-get install firmware-b43legacy-installer
[10:23] <Seryth> oh
[10:23] <Seryth> okay
[10:23] <Seryth> bobweaver: Yeah, it's installed
[10:24] <bobweaver> now check to make sure that other firmare is not installed   like         apt-cache policy firmware-b43-installer
[10:24] <bobweaver> ect
[10:24] <Seryth> right
[10:24] <Seryth> bobweaver: Damn, firmware-b43-installer is installed...
[10:24] <Seryth> Should I purge it?
[10:25] <bobweaver> remove it
[10:25] <Seryth> Oky
[10:25] <Seryth> ay*
[10:25] <Seryth> bobweaver: Job done :)
[10:26] <Seryth> bobweaver: So now I want to do sudo rmmod b43legacy && sudo modprobe b43legacy, right?
[10:26] <Baralabite> G'day, Could anyone help me with my problem - I'm trying to limit (per user) the download/upload quota using squid
[10:27] <bobweaver> Seryth,  what that does is say to the kernel Hey I dont want this driver please remove it then modprobe says Hey I want this driver please make sure that it is loaded
[10:28] <Seryth> bobweaver: Okay, understood. Running it now :)
[10:28] <ohmy> Can anyone tell me how to set "from shell" gnome-classic instead of unity ? for all user sessions*
[10:29] <Seryth> bobweaver: Great, well my wireless network has popped up on the list now
[10:29] <bobweaver> ohmy,  remove the sessions file and or rename to ubuntu-session-back or what ever
[10:29] <bobweaver> Good News then Seryth
[10:29] <Seryth> bobweaver: Great! So now I've gotta try connecting to it *crosses fingers*
[10:30] <Baralabite> Heh - Having quite a time trying to figure out x chat, and how to connect to a number of servers at once...
[10:30] <golden_fish> the festival is too hard to run
[10:30] <Baralabite> I got it sorted though ;)
[10:30] <Seryth> Baralabite: Want a hand?
[10:30] <Seryth> Oh
[10:30] <Seryth> Hehe :)
[10:30] <bobweaver> Seryth,  I have also seen bug with that driver where it does not start on boot if that is the case you need to add it to /etc/modules
[10:30] <Baralabite> With figureing out xchat, or my other problem?
[10:30] <golden_fish> i run it from terminal then what is next
[10:30] <golden_fish> how to use it
[10:31] <Seryth> Baralabite: xchat
[10:31] <Baralabite> Seryth, if you got a moment though - I could use and hand with something else though, it's to do with bandwidth quota management
[10:31] <Baralabite> Ohh, okay then!
[10:31] <Seryth> bobweaver: Right, well I'm going to try connecting as soon as this apt-get update is done :)
[10:31] <Seryth> Baralabite: Heh, sorry, I'm not the guy to ask
[10:31] <Baralabite> Would you know  who is :P
[10:32] <Seryth> Urm.....ActionParsnip, he knows everything about anything, but he's not online atm! Just ask in the channel, and see what help you get :)
[10:32] <golden_fish> i write in terminal "festival" and nothing happened !
[10:33] <bobweaver> golden_fish,    in terminal   whereis festival
[10:33] <bobweaver> where is it ?
[10:33] <golden_fish> i install it
[10:33] <golden_fish> from software center
[10:34] <bobweaver> that is great golden_fish  but where is the binary ?  whereis festival
[10:34] <golden_fish> i do not know
[10:35] <bobweaver> open terminal and type in  "whereis festival "
[10:35] <OerHeks> festival --tts something2speak.txt
[10:35] <golden_fish> ok
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> bobweaver  type /msg ubottu info festival
[10:35] <Seryth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109874/ bobweaver, no luck :( here's a bit of my dmesg....
[10:35] <golden_fish> festival: /usr/bin/festival /etc/festival.scm /usr/lib/festival /usr/bin/X11/festival /usr/share/festival /usr/share/man/man1/festival.1.gz
[10:35] <OerHeks> better typ: man festival
[10:36] <golden_fish> okay what is next
[10:36] <_gpg_> bobweaver: sorry got disconnected
[10:36] <_gpg_> bobweaver: Can you please remind me what file to rename to what
[10:36] <bobweaver> golden_fish,  great    it is in   /usr/bin/festival   so what happens when you run     /usr/bin/festival --help
[10:37] <_gpg_> bobweaver: to force gnome-session-fallback as default
[10:37] <golden_fish> a long manual
[10:37] <bobweaver> _gpg_,  what are you useing lightdm  ?
[10:37] <golden_fish> a long manual pop up in terminal
[10:38] <_gpg_> bobweaver: yes
[10:38] <Seryth> bobweaver: Right, so there's good news and bad news: The good news is that my WiFi card is now detecting my network, the bad news is that is _still_ won't connect. Here's my dmesg with the lines that are important: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109874/
[10:38] <fddddddddf> Snardbafulator and ##philosophy must be fixed!
[10:38] <fddddddddf> References
[10:38] <fddddddddf>     ^ "Youth protest former Mexican ruling party's rise". Buenos Aires Herald (Editorial Amfin S.A.). Retrieved June 12, 2012.
[10:38] <fddddddddf>     ^ a b Zapata, Belén (4 June 2012). "Atenco, el tema que 'encendió' a la Ibero y originó #YoSoy132" (in Spanish). CNNMéxico. Retrieved 29 June 2012.
[10:38] <fddddddddf>     ^ Quesada, Juan Diego (May 27, 2012). "Que nadie cierre las libretas: Del 15-M a Yo Soy 132 solo hay nueve mil kilómetros". Animal Político. Retrieved June 13, 2012.
[10:38] <fddddddddf>     ^ Sotillos, Alberto (June 13, 2012). "#YoSoy132: el 15M llega a México" (in Spanish). Diario Progresista. Retrieved June 13, 2012.
[10:38] <FloodBot1> fddddddddf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:39] <bobweaver> ok _gpg_   cd /usr/share/gnome-session/sessions/       do you see all the session files ?
[10:39] <golden_fish> Usage: festival Usage:
[10:39] <golden_fish> festival  <options> <file0> <file1> ...
[10:39] <golden_fish> In evaluation mode "filenames" starting with ( are evaluated inline
[10:39] <golden_fish> Festival Speech Synthesis System: 2.1:release November 2010
[10:39] <golden_fish> -q            Load no default setup files
[10:39] <golden_fish> --datadir <string>
[10:39] <FloodBot1> golden_fish: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:39] <_gpg_> golden_fish: stop pasting please !!!!!!
[10:39] <fddddddddf> Snardbafulator and ##philosophy must be fixed!
[10:39] <fddddddddf> References
[10:39] <fddddddddf>     ^ "Youth protest former Mexican ruling party's rise". Buenos Aires Herald (Editorial Amfin S.A.). Retrieved June 12, 2012.
[10:39] <fddddddddf>     ^ a b Zapata, Belén (4 June 2012). "Atenco, el tema que 'encendió' a la Ibero y originó #YoSoy132" (in Spanish). CNNMéxico. Retrieved 29 June 2012.
[10:39] <fddddddddf>     ^ Quesada, Juan Diego (May 27, 2012). "Que nadie cierre las libretas: Del 15-M a Yo Soy 132 solo hay nueve mil kilómetros". Animal Político. Retrieved June 13, 2012.
[10:39] <fddddddddf>     ^ Sotillos, Alberto (June 13, 2012). "#YoSoy132: el 15M llega a México" (in Spanish). Diario Progresista. Retrieved June 13, 2012.
[10:39] <golden_fish> ok , sorry
[10:39] <FloodBot1> fddddddddf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:39] <bobweaver> Seryth,  reboot the computer
[10:39] <Seryth> bobweaver: Okay, will do, brb, rebooting!
[10:39] <fddddddddf> Snardbafulator and ##philosophy must be fixed!
[10:39] <fddddddddf> References
[10:39] <fddddddddf>     ^ "Youth protest former Mexican ruling party's rise". Buenos Aires Herald (Editorial Amfin S.A.). Retrieved June 12, 2012.
[10:39] <fddddddddf>     ^ a b Zapata, Belén (4 June 2012). "Atenco, el tema que 'encendió' a la Ibero y originó #YoSoy132" (in Spanish). CNNMéxico. Retrieved 29 June 2012.
[10:39] <fddddddddf>     ^ Quesada, Juan Diego (May 27, 2012). "Que nadie cierre las libretas: Del 15-M a Yo Soy 132 solo hay nueve mil kilómetros". Animal Político. Retrieved June 13, 2012.
[10:39] <fddddddddf>     ^ Sotillos, Alberto (June 13, 2012). "#YoSoy132: el 15M llega a México" (in Spanish). Diario Progresista. Retrieved June 13, 2012.
[10:39] <FloodBot1> fddddddddf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:40] <Baralabite> THanks Seryth - I've also asked on  the squid channel, but no response of yet...
[10:40] <_gpg_> bobweaver: i got gnome.session ubuntu-2d.session ubuntu.session inside
[10:40] <golden_fish> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109885/
[10:40] <gribouille> hi
[10:40] <fddddddddf> Snardbafulator and ##philosophy must be quit
[10:40] <bobweaver> _gpg_,  these are the files that control what you see in lightdm manager
[10:40] <fddddddddf> must be fixed
[10:40] <fddddddddf> References
[10:40] <fddddddddf>     ^ "Youth protest former Mexican ruling party's rise". Buenos Aires Herald (Editorial Amfin S.A.). Retrieved June 12, 2012.
[10:40] <fddddddddf>     ^ a b Zapata, Belén (4 June 2012). "Atenco, el tema que 'encendió' a la Ibero y originó #YoSoy132" (in Spanish). CNNMéxico. Retrieved 29 June 2012.
[10:40] <fddddddddf>     ^ Quesada, Juan Diego (May 27, 2012). "Que nadie cierre las libretas: Del 15-M a Yo Soy 132 solo hay nueve mil kilómetros". Animal Político. Retrieved June 13, 2012.
[10:40] <FloodBot1> fddddddddf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:40] <fddddddddf>     ^ Sotillos, Alberto (June 13, 2012). "#YoSoy132: el 15M llega a México" (in Spanish). Diario Progresista. Retrieved June 13, 2012.
[10:40] <fddddddddf>     ^ "#YoSoy132: Mexican Elections, Media, and Immigration". The Huffington Post. AOL. June 7, 2012. Retrieved June 13, 2012.
[10:40] <Baralabite> Bot?
[10:41] <gribouille> when intalling a package in a .deb file, how can I install the dependencies automaically too?
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> bored script kiddies
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> gribouille: sudo apt-get -f install
[10:41] <bobweaver> _gpg_,  so if you rename to say ubuntu-2d.session-bakup ubuntu.session-bakup   and log out they should be gone
[10:41] <_gpg_> bobweaver: thank you so much, i'm trying
[10:41] <golden_fish> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109885/ < this what i got
[10:42] <mtfk> hi
[10:42] <golden_fish> what is next
[10:42] <mtfk> how to choose only one rule to build using dpkg-buildpackage ?
[10:42] <netw0rm> billyjam, bindi, bipolar, blenderhead, BlueEagle, BlueEagle, BlueEagle, Bryanstein, bzzzz, canadacow2:hi
[10:42] <mtfk> in project i have few rules full, light, extras
[10:42] <mtfk> and I would like to biuld only full
[10:42] <bobweaver> Right golden_fish that is the help page that tells you the commands what about man festival    or    info festival
[10:42] <gribouille> ActionParsnip, do you mean sudo apt-get -f install package.deb?
[10:43] <bobweaver> mtfk,  you set the rules in the control file
[10:43] <golden_fish> ok, how to use the software with GUI
[10:43] <mtfk> bobweaver: which one is control file ?
[10:43] <nja> Why are we talking about fried fish?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> gribouille: no, install the package with dpkg, as normal. After it installs run:  sudo apt-get -f install   and the system will attempt to satisfy deps
[10:43] <bobweaver> mtfk,  could you explain how you are trying to build package ?   fakeroot  dpkg-buildpackage -F    ?
[10:44] <mtfk> dpkg-buildpackage -uc -b
[10:44] <mtfk> from src directory
[10:44] <gribouille> ActionParsnip, but if there are missing dependencies, the install will fail
[10:44] <mang0> bobweaver: It still doesn't work...http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109888/ dmesg
[10:44] <bobweaver> mtfk,  could you show me the code ?
[10:44] <mtfk> and in debian/rules are all rules
[10:44] <mang0> bobweaver: It just times out over and over again
[10:44] <mtfk> bobweaver: I try to re build existing package of nginx: apt-get source nginx
[10:44] <mtfk> and after adding module I just want to build that
[10:45] <chinabootlegmake> anyone here play minetest
[10:45] <mtfk> but each time it build me all rules but I want just one
[10:45] <chinabootlegmake> the font of this game is so wrong under ubuntu
[10:45] <golden_fish> bobweaver : i don't know how to use it with GUI
[10:45] <bobweaver> mtfk, ok there should be a Hackingme and Copying file also you might want to look at debuild and also pbuilder
[10:45] <bobweaver> golden_fish, me either
[10:46] <mang0> bobweaver: Just going afk for a mo, gotta grab some food
[10:46] <sandieg> hello everyone, i love you all! all of my self and nnothing all :P
[10:46] <bobweaver> I use gespeaker
[10:46] <bobweaver> golden_fish, ^^
[10:46] <synju> does anyone know a good application for virtual machines in ubuntu?
[10:46] <synju> + a link..
[10:46] <synju> :/
[10:46] <_gpg_> synju: virtualbox
[10:46] <bobweaver> mang0,  ok seems like it could be auth stuff
[10:46] <synju> so just apt-get virtualbox ?
[10:47] <golden_fish> ok :) bobweaver :), thanks for you help
[10:47] <bobweaver> np golden_fish  :)
[10:48] <bobweaver> synju, I doenload the deb from virualbox.org then install with software center but that is just me
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> synju: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> gribouille: yes, but your available repos will be used to satisfy deps
[10:48] <synju> got the ose , tnx guys
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> synju: if you need raw usb access you will need to add the virtualbox ppa and use virtualbox-4.1
[10:50] <synju> hmm ok
[10:51] <mang0> bobweaver: perhaps...let me see
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> virtualbox 4.1.12 here, from the repos!
[10:53] <bobweaver> I seen that Ubuntu business edition comes with vmware out of the box
[10:53] <bobweaver> well the manager that is
[10:54] <mang0> http://pasteall.org/pic/35458 bobweaver, that's a part of the router settings - broadcasting on channel 11...is that right?
[10:55] <bobweaver> mang0,  what is out put of  apt-get policy wpasupplicant   ?
[10:55] <mang0> bobweaver: security+encryption is set to WPA2-PSK/WPA-PSK....that's wrong isn't it. It should be WPA/WPA2 right?
[10:56] <golden_fish> bobweaver ;what variable does festival take, coz the terminal it report > unbound variable : /home/administrator/test.txt <
[10:56] <mang0> E: Invalid operation policy bobweaver
[10:56] <bobweaver> lol sorry mang0  it is apt-cache policy
[10:56] <bobweaver> not apt get
[10:57] <mang0> bobweaver: Ah, heh, of course
[10:57] <mang0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109906/
[10:58] <bobweaver> mang0,  humm ... looks good try to remove and install again
[10:58] <Bennit> Hi
[10:58] <bobweaver> mang0,  afkb 10 min
[10:58] <Bennit> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix # I'm following this guide to setup postfix
[10:59] <Bennit> in the testing part it says I should see the auth & STARTTSL lines but I don't get them
[10:59] <mang0> bobweaver: Sure, no problem.
[10:59] <Bennit> http://pastebin.com/Buthi0BM # is all I'm getting
[11:00] <golden_fish> what variable does festival take, coz the terminal it report > unbound variable : /home/administrator/test.txt <
[11:00]  * synju is trying to get markets.com metatrader 4 running in ubuntu.
[11:00] <synju> :/
[11:01] <fabio> hi
[11:01] <fabio> hello :)
[11:02] <golden_fish> hi :)
[11:02] <golden_fish> bobweaver ;what variable does festival take
[11:06] <bobweaver> mang0,  please run theses commands and give us the link after running thanks   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109916/
[11:06] <mang0> bobweaver: sure. I just removed all authentication on my wifi, still nothing
[11:07] <TUX_> can i run windows 7 virtually on linux?
[11:07] <TUX_> on ubuntu***
[11:07] <auronandace> TUX_: sure
[11:07] <auronandace> TUX_: virtualbox
[11:07] <TUX_> is it free?
[11:08] <auronandace> TUX_: indeed, you'd need your own copy of win7
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> TUX_: yes, its in software centre
[11:08] <susundberg> ( http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/getting-your-windows-7-fix-in-linux-with-virtualbox/900 )
[11:08] <golden_fish> it is free - just to conform - :)
[11:09] <mang0> cat: /lib/firmware: Is a directory
[11:09] <mang0>  bobweaver
[11:09] <mang0> ^
[11:09] <bobweaver> woops there should be a wildcard there
[11:09] <mang0> /lib/firmware/* bobweaver?
[11:09] <bobweaver> correct
[11:10] <mang0> bobweaver: I helluva lot of errors about "cat: /lib/firmware/x: Is a directory
[11:10] <bobweaver> just take the firmware part out
[11:11] <mang0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109925/ bobweaver I took out the part about .wireless too, obviously
[11:12] <tukja> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiQUNaC_1bI&list=HL1343214324&feature=mh_lolz
[11:12] <LjL> !ot | tukja
[11:12] <golden_fish> "festival [options] [file0] [file1] ..." this is paste from terminal, any one can tech me it is means :)
[11:12] <auronandace> golden_fish: man festival
[11:13] <golden_fish> i did that
[11:14] <golden_fish> it is the way to use festival but i can't understand it
[11:14] <golden_fish> i think it can be use only from terminal
[11:15] <golden_fish> i decided to remove it
[11:16] <ntoll> hi, during start-up how do I get to the screen that allows me to select which kernel to start up with..?
[11:17] <ghostchick> ntoll, grub change the grub times
[11:17] <auronandace> ntoll: hold left shift during boot
[11:17] <ntoll> ghostchick, auronandace ta
[11:17]  * ntoll -> reboot ;-)
[11:18] <bobweaver> mang0,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109936/      << correct
[11:18] <aether> golden_fish: 'echo "hello golden_fish" | festival --tts'
[11:19] <mang0> bobweaver: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109938/ that was the result of the correct one you sent me
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> golden_fish: grab a text file with normal text in then run:  festival input.txt   for example
[11:19] <golden_fish> aether : i removed it, but what do you mean
[11:20] <bobweaver> mang0,  look at lines 27 and 28
[11:20] <aether> golden_fish: That is an example of how to use festival. ActionParsnip: I think that you need to use the --tts (text-to_speach) option
[11:20] <bobweaver> that needs to be installed mang0
[11:21] <ntoll> auronandace, thanks... that's what I needed :-)
[11:21] <bobweaver> mang0,  sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[11:21] <golden_fish> oh , okay thanks
[11:21] <mang0> bobweaver: Already installing, thanks
[11:21] <zetheroo> is installing Ubuntu on an SSD any different from installing it on a regular HDD?
[11:21] <auronandace> !yay | ntoll
[11:21] <ntoll> :-)
[11:22] <auronandace> zetheroo: the process is no different
[11:22] <mang0> bobweaver: Installed
[11:22] <bobweaver> mang0,  besides that you are looking good you might need to reboot
[11:22] <bobweaver> or rmmod and modprobe again like before
[11:22] <mang0> Yeah, I'll reboot now (need to anyway for some other things). I'll be back ina tick
[11:23] <zetheroo> auronandace: are there any usage complications with running Ubuntu on an SSD?
[11:24] <auronandace> zetheroo: i wouldn't know, i've never used a ssd, i wouldn't expect so
[11:24] <Erwyn> zetheroo: not as far as I know
[11:26] <alankila> zetheroo: I've used ubuntu on multiple SSD-based machines -- 3 in fact. No problems. I tend to enable the "discard" mount option also.
[11:26] <mang0> bobweaver: Okay, well I rebooted. Another problem is that the drivers are not being started at boot
[11:27] <zetheroo> alankila: what is that option for?
[11:27] <bobweaver> mang0,  gksudo gedit /etc/modules         then add       b43legacy         to the bottom   of the list  save and reboot  , dang ssb not doing its job
[11:28] <alankila> zetheroo: long-term performance and flash life maintenance. discard makes filesystem send the TRIM command you may have heard of.
[11:29] <burnt> zetheroo, i am usung ubuntu 12.04 on a ssd now, funs like a dream... from finishing post, its about 8 seconds till login screen :)
[11:29] <alankila> zetheroo: to put it simply, it tells flash that data on some sectors on the device is not required by filesystem and that it can remove it whenever it feels like compacting used blocks
[11:29] <burnt> alankila, where is this option found once installed
[11:29] <alankila> burnt: you would add it to fstab
[11:30] <zetheroo> alankila: sounds useful
[11:30] <zetheroo> burnt: nice!
[11:30] <mang0> bobweaver: Okay, rebooting again!
[11:31] <_gpg_> May i have your attention please, after uninstalling unity and gnome shell keeping only gnome-session-fallback, i cannot log into gnome, i got "Failed To Load session "ubuntu"" and the session terminates
[11:31] <_gpg_> how can i fix this please ?
[11:32] <ridcully1st_> hello evenrybody   could someone here help me with scim on lubuntu 12.04 ( i know its not the right channel but in #lubuntu ist nobody answering)
[11:32] <zetheroo> I am trying to figure out which direction to go .. ExpressCard SSD or SATA SSD .. reason is that my laptop (Thinkpad T400) does not support msata and I would like to keep my current 250GB Sata HDD for data, and have the OS and apps run from SSD .. but as far as I can tell ExpressCard SSD is slower than Sata SSD - is this correct?
[11:33] <alankila> zetheroo: I haven't seen an expresscard in years, but if the interface bandwidth is less than 300 MB/s it could be a problem -- in fact these days flash disks work up to 600 MB/s
[11:34] <bobweaver> _gpg_,  press ctrl+alt+f1 log in then rename the files back to what they where
[11:34] <mtfk> bobweaver: there is no any files like you write
[11:34] <zetheroo> alankila: so my only SSD option is to simply replace the current HDD altogether ...
[11:34] <pun33ater> sup yo's
[11:34] <alankila> zetheroo: I said no such thing
[11:34] <golden_fish> how to mount a diractory in Dosbox
[11:34] <alankila> anyway wikipedia implies that expresscard 2.0 should be fast enough when it comes to interface
[11:34] <mtfk> bobweaver: is there some common thing how to choose those rules ?
[11:35] <zetheroo> alankila: hehe ... but obviously I will not be getting 500MB/s from a ExpressCard SSD ... no!?
[11:35] <mang0> bobweaver: Rebooted, still not working! dmesg gives me this: [   41.936118] wlan2: direct probe to [mac address] timed out
[11:35] <alankila> zetheroo: I have no idea why you would say that. If the interface is capable of 500 MB/s, then it's up to the flash controller and chips and other engineering considerations what you will get.
[11:36] <bobweaver> mtfk, try to ask about that in the channel #ubuntu-motu
[11:36] <golden_fish> bobweaver : can you help me to mount a diractory in cosbox
[11:36] <mtfk> bobweaver: thanks
[11:36] <alankila> of course there's always some amount of overhead but it's not necessarily very large
[11:36] <bobweaver> mang0,   run the commands again that I gave you and lest see the output plz
[11:36] <mang0> bobweaver: coming up
[11:37] <mang0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109969/ bobweaver
[11:37] <alankila> zetheroo: but you need to know precisely how your expresscard is set up internally to understand what its bandwidth will be
[11:37] <krad> rmdir 'directory' <-- this removes the directory only if its empty?
[11:38] <zetheroo> alankila: well I said that about the speed because the ones I have been looking at were mentioning speeds of 115MB/s
[11:38] <bobweaver> mang0,  writing something up
[11:38] <alankila> "Expresscard PCI Express mode" might be acceptable, although another wikipedia page lists its speed at 250 MB/s
[11:38] <mang0> bobweaver: Thanks so much :) I would never be able to do any of this by myself, ahah
[11:39] <alankila> zetheroo: it's probably limited by the flash controller and/or chips, and not the expresscard interface itself, or at least nobody mentions something around 115 MB/s as speed limit for the interface.
[11:40] <alankila> zetheroo: anyway 115 MB/s is pretty slow as flash goes. Modern flash systems routinely do around 500 MB/s.
[11:40] <zetheroo> alankila: ok, so I am possibly looking at the cheaper/slower units ... I see these things get damn expensive
[11:40] <liquidee>  is video0 in /dev/ a video output or input?
[11:41] <bobweaver> mang0,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109975/
[11:42] <bobweaver> mang0,  If that dont work then I will make a legacy package  if that dont work then we will just try the b43 stright up
[11:42] <Orpheon> I've recorded a video with Record My Desktop and would like to upload it to youtube. Googling revealed a mencoder command to convert the Record My Desktop ogv to avi, which works but gives horrible glitches in the video
[11:43] <Orpheon> ffmpeg says it's deprecated, and recommends using avconv instead
[11:43] <bobweaver> !info kazam | Orpheon
[11:43] <Orpheon> is there no option that wouldn't require re-recording?
[11:43] <Orpheon> :(
[11:43] <golden_fish> i need to run C++ on ubuntu using dosbox > how to mount the TC diractory
[11:44] <bobweaver> not sure Orpheon  maybe someone else knows alot more about screencasting then me I do not know that much about it but yeah gtk-record-mydesktop gives me troble also
[11:45] <mang0> bobweaver: Okay, commands have finished
[11:45] <mang0> Orpheon: try ffscreencast
[11:45] <bobweaver> mang0,  sudo rmmod b43legacy && sudo modprobe b43legacy
[11:45] <bobweaver> anything ?
[11:45] <mang0> bobweaver: what was the command to reload the modules without---oh
[11:45] <mang0> heh
[11:47] <mang0> [  824.364129] wlan2: direct probe to [mac address] timed out bobweaver
[11:48] <bobweaver> mang0,  wlan2 huh *o                          rfkill list all && lsmod | grep b43legacy
[11:48] <golden_fish> the only issue in ubuntu that the is no C and D drive the system name it like this "678F82DC7691785C" help
[11:48] <okimoknow> so guys i've got a boot record problem I think. The Windows boot loader is still trying to load even though theres nothing there
[11:48] <integra> Hi
[11:49] <okimoknow> so I cant load my distro after it's installed
[11:49] <okimoknow> just gives me a windows error
[11:49] <mang0> !grub | okimoknow
[11:49] <okimoknow> i've reinstalled it twice
[11:49] <golden_fish> how to mount some thing in dosbox
[11:49] <mang0> See "Lost GRUB after installing Windows"
[11:49] <okimoknow> no i have deleted windows completely
[11:49] <integra>  Did anyone try installing Xen on Ubuntu 10.10 ?
[11:49] <okimoknow> the remnants seem to be attacking
[11:50] <mang0> okimoknow: I know, but that will restore your GRUB
[11:50] <mang0> bobweaver: Still nothing
[11:50] <bobweaver> mang0,  Ok making a packgae 20 min or so
[11:50] <bobweaver> -lp time that is
[11:50] <mang0> Thankyou very much bobweaver! I have to go out in about an hour, but I'll be back later this afternoon
[11:51] <alexfp> i am in the right ubuntu ?
[11:52] <alexfp> anyone here ?
[11:52] <golden_fish> i know that the admin is a little bit busy but the dosbox is really can't mount any thing
[11:52] <golden_fish> it just open Z:\ and that is it
[11:53] <alexfp> hello
[11:53] <golden_fish> hello
[11:53] <Erwyn> alexfp: yes?
[11:54] <golden_fish> Erwyn : how to mount in dosbox
[11:55] <golden_fish> i met the ubuntu has no C or D drive
[11:55] <Erwyn> golden_fish: not sure this is the right place
[11:55] <golden_fish> there is just /home
[11:56] <Erwyn> join #dosbox
[11:56] <golden_fish> right place for what it is IT for ubuntu help right ?
[11:56] <bobweaver> mang0, you are on 12.04 correct ?
[11:56] <golden_fish> oh, ok
[11:56] <mang0> bobweaver: Yeah, 12.04 64-bit
[11:56] <Erwyn> golden_fish: you said it, to ubuntu, not dosbox
[11:56] <bobweaver> thanks
[11:57] <golden_fish> Erwyn : okay , okay, sorry :-)
[11:59] <Orpheon> bobweaver, kazam inverted the colors of the recording :/
[11:59] <liquidee> how do i redirect console output to a connected screen? without X :p
[11:59] <Erwyn> golden_fish: you want to mount something is that it?
[12:00] <golden_fish> yes
[12:00] <golden_fish> how to do that
[12:03] <golden_fish> Erwyn : yes, i want
[12:03] <Erwyn> in french documentation mount E /home/erwyn/thegoodfile
[12:03] <Erwyn> within dosbox
[12:03] <Erwyn> for exemple
[12:04] <golden_fish> erwyn : let me try that
[12:04] <kai__> hey
[12:04] <kai__> huh there is more then 2 kai;s in the chat already lolz
[12:05] <nag_> Hi Guys, every time when iam loggin i am facing "http://paste.kde.org/522494/"  of some error problem. Can someone guide me how can i solve it plz
[12:05] <kai__> reinstall xchat?
[12:05] <kai__> might work :/
[12:06] <bobweaver> Ok mang0  I made the driver well a moded one when you are ready
[12:06] <mang0> bobweaver: I'm here
[12:06] <golden_fish> Erwyn : thanks, thanks, thanks :)
[12:06] <kai__> kai__:
[12:06] <bobweaver> mang0,  still waiting on launchpad
[12:07] <mang0> bobweaver: I've not installled from launchpad before, you'll have to gimme instructions if it's anything complicated
[12:07] <aman__> Hi there
[12:07] <aman__> may i know how to set ip in ubuntu 12.04 as static
[12:07] <aman__> ?
[12:07] <aman__> everytime i set,and reboot the system,it doesnot get any ip.?
[12:08] <bobweaver> mang0,  1st lets install my repo     sudo add-apt-repository ppa:josephjamesmills/beta        then      sudo apt-get update
[12:08] <mang0> bobweaver: okay
[12:08] <aether> aman__: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[12:08] <kai__> bob anything intresting in your repo?
[12:09] <aman__> i have went through this document
[12:09] <yuvraj> Hi
[12:09] <bobweaver> kai__,  nothing to cool I am going to add Ubuntu tv v.v.soon
[12:09] <kai__> whats in the repo?
[12:09] <bobweaver> https://launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/+archive/beta
[12:09] <yuvraj> I want a small help guys
[12:09] <fidel_> !ask > yuvraj
[12:10] <bobweaver> for mang0  it is the driver that I just made
[12:10] <aman__> everytime i make changes to /etc/network/interfaces file and restart networking ,system doesnot get any ip and loses connection with internet too
[12:10] <yuvraj> How to add hindi font support on libre office?
[12:10] <bobweaver> well altered
[12:10] <aman__> and if i try ifup eth0 then it shows ignoring unknown eth0=eth0
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> aman__: can you pastebin the interfaces file please
[12:10] <aman__> any ideas please?
[12:10] <kai__> bobweaver: Is the launchpad like the macs? Screenshots on the website would be great.
[12:11] <aman__> i will do in a while ,right now i cant make changes to it ..pleas wait
[12:11] <mang0> bobweaver: Okay, update has finished
[12:11] <bobweaver> kai__, launchpad is where Ubuntu holds all its code and also you get a repo if you sign the Ubuntu Code of conduce
[12:11] <yuvraj> @Fidel can you guide me?
[12:11] <kai__> oh derp
[12:11] <bobweaver> mang0,  apt-cache search bobdriver
[12:11] <kai__> thought it was a app :/
[12:11] <kai__> taht you were talking about
[12:11] <bobweaver> kai__,  it holds apps that one makes
[12:12] <aman__> may i know what is that manual option there
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> aman__: it doesn't need changing, you are only reading the file
[12:12] <mang0> bobweaver: no result
[12:12] <aman__> actually during installation and even post installation i dint make any change to those files
[12:12] <bobweaver> mang0,  apt-cache search bobsdriver         << forgot the s
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> aman__: inet eth0 inet static     will set the interface to static IP, the next lines define the addressing
[12:13] <aman__> it automatically got all the proper network configuration and got an ip from dhcp
[12:13] <mang0> bobweaver: Uh, still nothing
[12:13] <Erwyn> golden_fish: you're welcome
[12:13] <aman__> but now i want my ip address to be static ,so where would i make changes?
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> aman__: then you can use:  iface eth0 inet dhcp
[12:13] <yuvraj> Is anyone there? :(
[12:14] <aman__> thats what i am saying Sir
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> aman__: you get the idea. Be sure to add:  auto eth0   so it comes up automatically
[12:14] <bobweaver> mang0,  ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ | pastebinit
[12:14] <aman__> anyhow we are making changes to the interfaces file right?
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> aman__: yes
[12:14] <mang0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1110028/ bobweaver
[12:14] <aman__> after making those changes ,i need to restart networking?
[12:14] <aman__> right?
[12:14] <bobweaver> mang0,  update again       sudo apt-get update
[12:15] <bobweaver> mang0,  then apt-cache search bobsdriver      might take a min or two to get to launchpad
[12:15] <mang0> bobweaver: Still nothing. I've gotta go and print something off, I'll try again when that's done
[12:16] <aman__> ?
[12:16] <fidel_> yuvraj: no - as i am not using libre at all - but consider asking as well in #libreoffice if you dont get an answer inhere or using a search engine
[12:16] <bobweaver> Yeah mang0  it say status = 	Pending
[12:16] <bobweaver> you can watch it here https://launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/+archive/beta/+packages
[12:16] <yuvraj> @Fidel Actually I fixed it myself.. am a ubuntu newbie :/
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> aman__: sudo service networking restart   should do it
[12:17] <yuvraj> I changed current layout to hindi
[12:17] <bobweaver> Once it says Published  run sudo apt-get update again and it will update the package list aka the package that you need that I just built   << mang0
[12:17] <aman__> ya after i restart the service ,my machine doesnt get that ip specified in interfaces
[12:17] <aman__> thats what i m asking
[12:17] <aman__> is there any problem which is being created by network-manager?
[12:18] <aman__> previously i was using fedora and it was not having such setup
[12:18] <ascheel> When making a backup, is it safe to say that I should back up everything except /dev /sys and /proc?
[12:19] <Erwyn> ascheel: is it a personal backup?
[12:19] <ascheel> Erwyn: it is
[12:19] <Erwyn> what do you want to backup?
[12:20] <ascheel> Erwyn: the system in its entirety
[12:20] <Erwyn> hu
[12:20] <Erwyn> clonezilla
[12:20] <ascheel> with possibility of restoration on a new machine
[12:20] <ascheel> No, not clonezilla.  That requires the machinen to be booted to a LiveCD
[12:20] <yuvraj> Ascheel make an iso image file of your hard drive
[12:20] <ascheel> machine*
[12:20] <cppby> HI ...~~~
[12:21] <ascheel> I'm looking at making rolling backups with rsync.  It's not feasible to require my machine to be down for the backup process
[12:21] <Erwyn> ascheel: and? what is the problem
[12:21] <yuvraj>  one small question, I had installed skype but my microphone wasnt working so I re-installed pulse audio.. Microphone is fine but volume setting has disappeard from taskbar
[12:21] <ascheel> Erwyn: clonezilla requires the machine to be booted to a LiveCD.  This needs to happen while the machine is live and running.
[12:21] <Erwyn> ascheel: ok
[12:22] <Erwyn> ascheel: so this is my proposal
[12:22] <Erwyn> ascheel: do you often change installed softwares?
[12:22] <ascheel> Yes.
[12:22] <Erwyn> shit
[12:22] <Erwyn> sorry
[12:23] <Erwyn> il is a dev machine or a test one?
[12:23] <Erwyn> backing up the entire system sounds a bit… overkill
[12:23] <ascheel> I know how to handle the backup process itself.  I need to know which directories are unecessary such as /dev /sys and /proc
[12:24] <alankila> ascheel: you should look at the -x option maybe
[12:24] <ascheel> Ubuntu will recreate the contents of those directories on boot, I don't know if there are others I'm not thinking of.
[12:24] <Erwyn> ascheel: I don't think there are others
[12:24] <aether> Erwyn: you might want to look into lvm and snapshots
[12:24] <Erwyn> aether: ascheel not Erwyn
[12:24] <aether> Erwyn: sorry
[12:25] <mang0> bobweaver: I've got to get ready to go out, (job interview!) but I'll be back later to continue. Hopefully it won't be pending by then :P
[12:25] <bobweaver> mang0,  it just worked try again
[12:25] <mang0> bobweaver: Hopefully you'll still be here too, but if not, thankyou so much for all your help :)
[12:25] <mang0> oh
[12:25] <yuvraj> Best of luck mango
[12:25] <mang0> Thanks!
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> aman__: if the network is defined in /etc/network/interfaces then network manager won't be able to manage the interface
[12:26] <Erwyn> ascheel: it sounds like a bad idea in my opinion
[12:26] <mang0> bobweaver: Well it says published now, but apt-cache is still coming up empty
[12:27] <Erwyn> if you are worried about conf files, only backup them
[12:27] <ascheel> Erwyn: it works just fine.  Incremental backups using rsync are incredibly effective.
[12:27] <bobweaver> mang0, you ran sudo apt-get update correct ?
[12:27] <mang0> bobweaver: Yup
[12:27] <delac> in Evolution, what does the red exclamation mark column signify?
[12:27] <ascheel> Erwyn: during restore, just need to drop the files back onto a live Linux install (preferably with the same Distro/Version, reboot and everything is golden
[12:28] <ascheel> Erwyn: the best part, it can be done live.
[12:28] <bobweaver> might have to wait a little bit longer I will be around today thou so do you you got to good luck with the interview
[12:28] <ascheel> The backup half, that is
[12:28] <bobweaver> mang0,  ^%^
[12:28] <mang0> bobweaver: Great, see you later!
[12:29] <Erwyn> ascheel: puppet
[12:29] <aman__> wait Sir i ll show u
[12:29] <Erwyn> I don't know, it sounds really too much, but maybe it's just me
[12:29] <jacta> Erwyn, do you know if theres a way to check current "seedtime" for a transmission torrent?
[12:30] <ascheel> KISS.  Keep It Simple, Stupid.
[12:30] <bobweaver> Yeah mang0  it says that it is going to start in 19 minutes    https://launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/+archive/beta/+build/3680872
[12:31] <manoharuss> hi guys
[12:31] <delac> what point is there to have a exclamation mark, if there is no explanation what it means. Even a little tooltip would have worked.
[12:31] <Erwyn> ascheel: and it is not in my opinion but that's good if it satisfies you
[12:31] <Erwyn> jacta: you installed web interface?
[12:31] <jacta> Erwyn, installed the daemon as you said and have it up running
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> delac: what if you hover the mouse over the exclamation mark?
[12:32] <Erwyn> jacta: so i don't know, i use it with web interface
[12:32] <manoharuss> i wanna enable button click sound like in mac in my ubuntu 12.04...could u pls tell me how to
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> jacta: are you running transmission on the desktop or as a service in CLI?
[12:32] <kai__> hey
[12:32] <jacta> As daemon and webinterface
[12:32] <mynotes> hello
[12:33] <delac> ActionParsnip: well, I kinda already tried. That is why I was whining about the tooltip.
[12:33] <mynotes> test
[12:33] <manoharuss> can anyone help
[12:33] <manoharuss> pls
[12:33] <manoharuss> i wanna enable button click sound like in mac in my ubuntu 12.04
[12:34] <mynotes> hi. anyone can help me. i'm using ubuntu 10.04. after restart my desktop. after log in i got a black screen
[12:35] <manoharuss> i wanna enable button click sound like in mac in my ubuntu 12.04
[12:35] <aman__> http://fpaste.org/NckC/
[12:35] <jacta> Erwyn, guess its the same with me? daemon with webintreface?
[12:35] <aman__> Sir this is my current interface file
[12:35] <aman__> by default it was like this
[12:35] <zonefull> Hello
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> aman__: thats the default file...
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> aman__: i thought you were adding stuff
[12:37] <mynotes> can anyone help
[12:37] <aman__> now i want to make my ip static and ip shoukld be 192.168.60.234 with subnet 255.255.255.0 and gateway is 192.168.60.254
[12:37] <aman__> Sir i was adding the stuff but due to problems i reverted back to default
[12:37] <ascheel> mynotes: not unless you ask a question
[12:37] <maz__> Hi I am new here..
[12:37] <aman__> did i make the question clear sir?
[12:38] <ascheel> maz__: congratulations!  Unfortunately, we're out of door prizes, though.
[12:38] <mynotes> ascheel: my problem. after login on my desktop i got black screen
[12:38] <ascheel> mynotes: anything on it?  Icons?  Do you get panels?  Anything?
[12:38] <zonefull> im also new :P
[12:38] <mynotes> ascheel:  nothing on login screen then black screen
[12:39] <mynotes> *only
[12:39] <maz__> so what are you talking about here guys?
[12:39] <aman__> ?
[12:39] <ascheel> mynotes: this is drastic, but try moving ~/.gconf to something else like ~/.gconf.backup
[12:39] <ascheel> then log in
[12:39] <namoamitabuddha> How to use JRE?
[12:40] <Erwyn> jacta: so go to the web interface
[12:40] <ascheel> namoamitabuddha: sounds like a question for #java
[12:40] <namoamitabuddha> ascheel: #jave might be a place for Sun Java. I prefer the free software, say OpenJDK.
[12:41] <namoamitabuddha> I found that JRE is unavailable in my web browser.
[12:41] <x_> Привет всемм
[12:41] <mynotes> ascheel thanks i'm still getting black screen
[12:41] <ascheel> mynotes: sorry, also move ~/.gconfd
[12:41] <kale> how do i install sun java on lucid?
[12:42] <aman__> http://fpaste.org/rjw8/
[12:42] <aman__> sir u may check the file now
[12:42] <mynotes> ascheel what i remember the message 'session' expire on first message then i forgot the complete message
[12:42] <namoamitabuddha> http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp
[12:42] <aman__> \after modification it luks like this
[12:42] <namoamitabuddha> The response is "Something is wrong. Java is not working."
[12:43] <aether> aman__: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1110054/
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> aman__: let me make a new pastebin for you
[12:44] <ascheel> mynotes: what version of Ubuntu you running?
[12:44] <aman__> sure
[12:44] <aman__> @aether
[12:45] <mynotes> ascheel 11.04
[12:45] <aman__> my gatway is 192.168.60.254 not 192.168.1.254
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> aman__: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[12:45] <aman__> Sir its 12.04
[12:45] <aman__> precise it shows
[12:45] <kale> namoamitabuddha: there is no repository for java?
[12:45] <sudo-apt-get> I am willing to pay $5000 for 3 months on contract basis. You need experience with c++/qt. Its a multiplayer poker game which has present scope to run on lan and it needs upnp/dlna integration later. Any takers?
[12:46] <LjL> sudo-apt-get: wrong channel
[12:46] <jacta> Erwyn, im there - does it count total from start - or from done
[12:46] <Erwyn> jacta: for the activity time?
[12:46] <sudo-apt-get> LjL, why?
[12:46] <namoamitabuddha> kale: OpenJDK 6 JRE is installed but when surfing Internet I found that it did not work.
[12:47] <jacta> Erwyn, what field is it taken from?
[12:47] <LjL> sudo-apt-get: this channel is strictly for Ubuntu technical support. your request basically amounts to spam.
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> aman__: http://fpaste.org/pPMU/
[12:47] <kale> earlier i believe there was a repository for sun java
[12:47] <ascheel> mynotes: move .gconf .gconfd and .gnome2 (if it exists) out of the way.  See if that helps at all.
[12:47] <namoamitabuddha> Sun Java is NON-FREE, or PROPRIETARY.
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> sudo-apt-get: i'd ask in #c++
[12:47] <oooaaaoooo1> whats ubuntus general chat room called again?
[12:47] <Erwyn> jacta: select your torrent, then in right upper corner there is a "i"
[12:47] <LjL> !ot | oooaaaoooo1
[12:47] <jacta> Erwyn, yapp
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> namoamitabuddha: it's free as in beer :)
[12:48] <mynotes> ascheel: okay. thanks. i'll try
[12:48] <ascheel> oooaaaoooo1: look at the /topic
[12:48] <Erwyn> click it and you'll have some informations
[12:48] <oooaaaoooo1> yup thnx
[12:48] <Erwyn> jacta: about activity time and so on
[12:48] <ascheel> oooaaaoooo1: sorry, that doesn't include that anymore.  I think it did at one time.
[12:48] <rocky_> hello
[12:48] <sudo-apt-get> ActionParsnip, #c++ is blocked.
[12:48] <namoamitabuddha> ActionParsnip: Well, FSF does go against them.
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> namoamitabuddha: fine but it's free to install, download and use
[12:49] <mynotes> ascheel:  for clarification i'll will log in through console. right?
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> sudo-apt-get: or try #c
[12:49] <jacta> Erwyn, last activity: 15546 days ago one says
[12:49] <kale> sudo-apt-get: i can join c++, so not blocked
[12:49] <ascheel> mynotes: that's fine, yeah.  Ctrl-Alt-F1
[12:49] <Erwyn> jacta: yes, activity
[12:49] <jacta> Aint that alot of days ago ;p
[12:49] <LjL> the channel is ##c++
[12:49] <Erwyn> jacta: but you havve also running time
[12:49] <sudo-apt-get> kale,  Cannot join #c++ (Channel is invite only).
[12:50] <LjL> sudo-apt-get: /join ##c++
[12:50] <rocky_> i am using Ubuntu 12.04, its suspend is not workig OK, it goes to suspend mode, when i turn on from suspend mode, the screen is black, i don't see the password window
[12:50] <Erwyn> and things like this, i think you are looking for running time
[12:50] <aman__> after that sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart?
[12:50] <jacta> What does the "stop seeding if idle time(m)" goes after?
[12:50] <LjL> although i'm not entirely sure they'll appreciate job offers in ##c++ either
[12:50] <jacta> ^ Erwyn
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> rocky_: that is a known issue in Quantal, are you sure you aren't using Quantal?
[12:51] <Siegel> hello people. i just turned computer on again, after installing 12.04 and all of a sudden the language of my computer was chinese, and it was english the last time
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> aman__: sure, or reboot
[12:51] <Siegel> can anyone recognize this bizarre problem?
[12:51] <aether> aman__: I prefer 'ifdown eth0 ; ifup eth0'
[12:51] <aman__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1110066/
[12:51] <namoamitabuddha> Got it. Icedtea-7-plugin is needed.
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> aman__: then just reboot
[12:52] <rocky_> i am using Ubuntu 12.04, its suspend is not workig OK, it goes to suspend mode, when i turn on from suspend mode, the screen is black, i don't see the password window
[12:52] <aman__> i have tried that too,after reboot it will not get any ip
[12:52] <aman__> and no network acces
[12:52] <aman__> should i try ifdown eth0
[12:52] <namoamitabuddha> ActionParsnip: But we have alternatives, such as OpenJDK, which are FREE as in FREE SPEECH.
[12:53] <kale> sudo-apt-get: get an invitation, OR register
[12:53] <aman__> it shows ifdown: interface eth0 not configured
[12:54] <nja> Who here plays Tribes: Ascend?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> namoamitabuddha: if the extra features in java are required then it should be used
[12:54] <bazhang> !ot | nja
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> namoamitabuddha: please drop the caps. I can read lower case
[12:54] <mynotes> ascheel.   i'm still getting black screen
[12:54] <rocky_> ActionParsnip,  i am using Ubuntu 12.04, its suspend is not workig OK, it goes to suspend mode, when i turn on from suspend mode, the screen is black, i don't see the password window
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> namoamitabuddha: software is a tool for a job so rather than holding yourself back for the sake of opensourceness, you shoukd use what works
[12:55] <ascheel> mynotes: I think we've ruled out a bad configuration in your stuff.  Got anything fun in /var/log ?
[12:55] <namoamitabuddha> ActionParsnip: The word FREE should be emphasized on again and again so that we can fight against the proprietary softwares.
[12:55] <Intraframe> Greetings from Sweden
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> rocky_: are there bugs reported?
[12:55] <namoamitabuddha> ActionParsnip: such as Windows.
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> namoamitabuddha: I just use what works
[12:55] <rocky_> ActionParsnip,  i am using Ubuntu 12.04, its suspend is not workig OK, it goes to suspend mode, when i turn on from suspend mode, the screen is black, i don't see the password window
[12:55] <ascheel> namoamitabuddha: proprietery software is not all evil, however that's definitely off topic
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> rocky_: you said
[12:55] <aman__> Sir ,did u see the pastes?
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> aman__: yes, did you try my suggestion?
[12:56] <aether> aman__: 'sudo ip route flush table all; ifdown eth0; ifup eth0'
[12:56] <rocky_> ActionParsnip, i said this  i am using Ubuntu 12.04, its suspend is not workig OK, it goes to suspend mode, when i turn on from suspend mode, the screen is black, i don't see the password window
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> rocky_: report a bug
[12:56] <Intraframe> =)
[12:56] <namoamitabuddha> ascheel: Ubuntu, or Ubuntu GNU/Linux, which is a kind of GNU/Linux, approves of the philosophy of FSF.
[12:56] <rocky_> ActionParsnip, can you something debug
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> rocky_: i don't know what to suggest
[12:57] <ascheel> namoamitabuddha: that's irrelevant.  It's still off topic as to the philosophies behind them.  This is the Ubuntu support channel.
[12:57] <rocky_> ActionParsnip, let me tell you what error message i get, this may help to debug
[12:57] <ascheel> namoamitabuddha: So your problem is that your browser(s) do not recognize OpenJDK is that correct?
[12:57] <mynotes> ascheel i also hear the sound during log in
[12:58] <namoamitabuddha> ascheel: I installed icedtea plugin and now I'll test it again.
[12:58] <golden_fish> i have to restart >be right back<
[12:58] <ascheel> mynotes: anything in /var/log?
[12:58] <namoamitabuddha> ascheel: Before that, I'll purge some useless packages.
[12:59] <ascheel> namoamitabuddha: I'd worry about that later unless your hard up for disk space
[12:59] <mynotes> ascheel cd /var/log have a lots of file. and i remember last night i install php
[13:00] <ascheel> mynotes: php shouldn't affect it.  Does /var/log/syslog or /var/log/messages show anything that may look relevant
[13:00] <mynotes> maybe it affect my configuration
[13:00] <ascheel> ?
[13:00] <sandieg> hello, is there anyway of installing ugly plugins pack and MPEG1,2,3 plugins trough APT-GET ?!?!?!
[13:00] <namoamitabuddha> ascheel: Now it's okay.
[13:00] <sandieg> If you know how let me know
[13:00] <ascheel> namoamitabuddha: so icedtea was necessary?
[13:00] <namoamitabuddha> ascheel: yes.
[13:01] <jrib> sandieg: why?
[13:01] <sandieg> jrib i need to install them
[13:01] <sandieg> to listen to internet radio
[13:01] <jrib> sandieg: apt-cache search -n ugly, then install what you want
[13:02] <sandieg> thx
[13:02] <j0lly>  /msg NickServ identify sticazzi
[13:02] <jrib> j0lly: change your password now
[13:02] <j0lly> -.-
[13:02] <sandieg> lollllllllllllll
[13:02] <saml> how can I make cmd not exit when quiting gnome-terminal?  I tried      nohup cmd &  disown -a
[13:02] <sandieg> one of this days happend the same to me
[13:02] <sandieg> :PPPPP
[13:02] <jrib> sandieg: yes.  (be more specific)
[13:02] <ascheel> saml: nohup cmd &    <--- proper way
[13:03] <jrib> saml: yes.  (be more specific)
[13:03] <ascheel> but the 'disown' I'm unfamiliar with
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> sandieg: try: apt-cache seach plug | grep ugly
[13:03] <saml> ascheel, jrib I created a script  called ~/bin/cmd  (~/bin is in PATH).  cmd  does  nohup ~/path/to/actual/cmd &       when I execute cmd, it's attached
[13:04] <pb> If im running ubuntu 2d. can I switch to gnome to h ave advanced customization?
[13:04] <saml> I need to  nohup cmd &  in the terminal even though the script, cmd,  already does nohup ~/path/to/actual/cmd &
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> pb: Unity2D uses Gnome as the DE
[13:04] <mynotes> ascheel vim syslogs lots of message
[13:04] <ascheel> saml: the script WILL be attached, but any processes that *IT* spawns will not be
[13:04] <ascheel> mynotes: put a hundred lines or so in a pastebin, please.
[13:05] <ascheel> saml: correction, any processes it spawns with nohup and & will not be attached.
[13:05] <pb> so obtain a unity 2d editor and ill be able to customize my gui
[13:05] <saml> so how can I make  a script so that when it's run, itself and its child processes are disattached so that I can close the terminal
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> pb: do you want the old Gnome2 look by any chance?
[13:05] <ascheel> saml: execute the script itself with 'nohup' and &
[13:05] <saml> in other distributions, the script, cmd,   behaves the way i wanted to
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> saml: use the nohup command
[13:06] <saml> i dont' want to use nohup in the terminal.. that's the point of creating the script
[13:06] <ascheel> saml: it's got nothing to do with Ubuntu.  If you want a second opinion, join #bash and ask again there.
[13:06] <saml> maybe i'll alias
[13:06] <pb> i think out of all the gnomes.. gnome / classic.. I enjoy the classic.  thats the one with the bar at the bottom correct?
[13:06] <ascheel> pb: indeed.  I believe that's now 'gnome shell'
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> saml: then make a launcher for it in /usr/share/
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> saml: then make a launcher for it in /usr/share/applications/
[13:07] <pb> just trying to move away from ubuntu 2d and explore my options with custimizing 2d gui's.  limited tho w/o 3d graphics
[13:07] <saml> no.. i want to launch in terminal
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> synju: and you can launch it from Unity
[13:07] <day_> i dont want a launcher... i want it to be sentinent!
[13:07] <saml> i thoguht it was gnome-terminal.. but same thing happens with xterm
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> pb: could try LXDE or KDE
[13:08] <ascheel> pb: Try xfce or fluxbox
[13:08] <ascheel> pb: or what ActionParsnip said.
[13:08] <pb> those will be compatable with my 2d graphics hardware?
[13:09] <linux_newbie> can anyone tell me how to set up USB in linux..please..i am using a montavista kernel pro v5.0
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> pb: sure
[13:09] <jrib> saml: what  you describe works fine here.  Example: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1110090/ .  So again, be more specific
[13:10] <relisher> pb I can also recommend openbox. Much better look then fluxbox, lightweight, and 2d
[13:10] <pb> thank you guys very much. ill give them a wiki to catch up.
[13:11] <aman__> i reebooted and as i told you i dint get any ip
[13:11] <linux_newbie> how to set up USB in linux?im using montavista kernel 2.6.18 please help
[13:11] <aman__> even i was not able to ping 192.168.62.oo network
[13:11] <rocky_> aman__, what is your OS issue?
[13:11] <saml> jrib, maybe it's the program (sublime text). gedit does work as expected
[13:12] <rocky_> aman__, or may be NW issue?
[13:12] <aman__> so i commented out the lines and restarted network-manager and it worked
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> linux_newbie: usb is default enabled in ubuntu
[13:12] <aman__> how to assign static ip to my system now?
[13:12] <rocky_> aman__, to assign static ip configure it in router
[13:13] <arpad2_> hi
[13:13] <aman__> Cm'on man i want it locally
[13:13] <rocky_> aman__, set the ip lease not to expire
[13:14] <aman__> i want to do it the way written in ubuntu documentation
[13:14] <aman__> and its not working
[13:14] <jrib> saml: I don't know your use-case, but maybe consider using dmenu_run instead
[13:15] <jrib> (or similar)
[13:15] <aman__> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[13:15] <aman__> please  help
[13:15] <aman__> or if its a bug then how to report it?
[13:16] <linux_newbie> i have enabled kernel support.I am developing an application for an ip camera on davinci dm365 evaluation board.my part is to connect it to a network using a USB 3g dongle.Normally when a USB 3G dongle is plugged in it should be detected as a flash drive first and then it needs to be mode switched to modem mode.Despite of enabling kernel support,the dongle is not getting detected and I am new to USB..please help
[13:16] <Erwyn> jacta: kay?
[13:16] <brahim> sl8
[13:18] <Siegel-> in case anyone was wondering- the weird bug i just experienced. upon booting, computer language switched to chinese on 12.04. you go to system settings>user accounts>language>upper most option>reboot>problem solved.
[13:18] <aman__> ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[13:21] <arpad2_> I used the sudo pppoencf command and after this can't connect with Network Manager to the net. any idea how to restore this? thanx!
[13:21] <BlueEagle> !guidelines | aman__
[13:22] <BlueEagle> aman__: Please read the guidelines. Especially note the part about !enter and !patience. A line with 35 question marks does not make me want to help you at all.
[13:23] <BlueEagle> !bugs > aman__
[13:28] <jacta> is there a way to check what the name of netcard in laptop is?
[13:28] <medicineman> mornin'
[13:28] <Erwyn> jacta: lspci?
[13:28] <drenn> morning
[13:29] <pb> ok 2d graphic cards blow chunks. anyway to change them w/o purchasing  the hardware?
[13:29] <medicineman> anyone have any artifacting issues w/ Xubuntu and nvidia?
[13:29] <slikts> where can I change the shift+alt+uparrow shortcuts?
[13:29] <talsamon> jacta, sudo lshw|grep net
[13:30] <slikts> i.e., the expo mode
[13:30] <BlueEagle> medicineman: Nope.
[13:30] <medicineman> BlueEagle: Not sure what the issue is.  if i leave it on and idle for more than an hour i get squares all over my screen
[13:31] <BlueEagle> medicineman: That's the screen saver...
[13:31] <slikts> f**k me, I can feel the energy draining from this. why isn't shift+alt+uparrow in the Keyboard config panel…
[13:31] <medicineman> BlueEagle: so just remove the screen saver?
[13:31] <BlueEagle> medicineman: I am ofgourse joking. Does a screen shot expose the artifacting?
[13:32] <medicineman> BlueEagle: i'll see if i can get one.  i also figured you were jokin.  wanted to play along
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> slikts: check in ccsm
[13:34] <rloehning_home> Hi Everybody. Is it a known issue that Firefox downloads break when switching users on 12.04?
[13:34] <slikts> ActionParsnip: first I need to figure out how to install it
[13:35] <pb> I run radeon 7200. how do set it up to run 3d accelerated graphics?
[13:35] <medicineman> BlueEagle: Are you using nvidia-current?
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> slikts: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[13:37] <BlueEagle> medicineman: I am.
[13:37] <slikts> ActionParsnip: already done, thanks
[13:38] <pb> help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver  states Radeon 7200 has good 3d acceleration support. how do I enable it to run 3d?
[13:38] <medicineman> BlueEagle: then i'm not sure what the issue is then.  what video card?
[13:40] <Erwyn> pb: install the drivers?
[13:40] <pb> yes please.
[13:41] <pb> ubuntu 12.04 device manager won't see my radeon 7200.
[13:41] <Erwyn> pb: ubuntu should propose you to install them through the proprietary drivers interface
[13:41] <pb> should.. dosn't. way to do it manually?
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> pb: try:  sudo lshw -C display
[13:41] <drenn> I need for the terminal to be disabled. My brother has broken his last 4 reinstalls of ubuntu.
[13:42] <jrib> drenn: don't give him sudo privileges
[13:42] <Erwyn> xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[13:42] <medicineman> drenn: have him keep breaking it, and tell him to fix it
[13:42] <pb> vga compatibale r100 32 bits
[13:42] <medicineman> drenn: only way he'll learn
[13:42] <Erwyn> or catalyst, but i'm sorry i don't know that much ati cards
[13:42] <Erwyn> i only buy nvidia
[13:43] <drenn> fair enough. he is almost 11, time for him to man up.
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> Erwyn: same
[13:43] <medicineman> lol
[13:45] <drenn> I love my lil bro.
[13:45] <drenn> The reason he switched was for apt-get moo.
[13:46] <Erwyn> pb: try sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[13:46] <pb>  xserver-xorg-video-radeon TY
[13:46] <pb> missed it the first time.
[13:46] <Erwyn> don't guaranty it will work
[13:46] <pb> checking into it.. howd you come across that page if i may ask
[13:46] <Erwyn> sudo apt-cache search radeon
[13:47] <pb> my google searches turned up allot of dead ends.. saying its supported but not telling me why.
[13:47] <pb> or how to enable..
[13:47] <Erwyn> sudo apt-cache search radeon
[13:47] <pb> thanks allot.. ill check it out.
[13:47] <Erwyn> give you results and afaik when supported, should be there
[13:47] <Coffee321> I am an Ubuntu amateur user running 12.04 lts (and have happily killed windows!!!!) I am wondering if there is a way to enable a better then standard graphics mode, using a Intel® 915GM x86/MMX/SSE2 graphics card on my 32 bit system...?!?
[13:48] <Erwyn> in the xorg package
[13:48] <Erwyn> Coffee321: what do you want to do with your card?
[13:48] <Erwyn> what is the problem with it?
[13:49] <Coffee321> I am concerned that I have not enabled acceleration.
[13:49] <Erwyn> how do you know it?
[13:49] <pb>  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeon    0 installed..
[13:49] <Erwyn> pb: already installed
[13:49] <pb> indeed.
[13:50] <Erwyn> pb
[13:51] <Erwyn> glxinfo | grep "direct rendering"
[13:51] <Erwyn> what does it say?
[13:51] <srabtnom> hi all, i just had an horrible time trying to do a fresh install ... the installer just crashes when i open it ... i "checked disk for defects" and there were none ... what can i do ?
[13:51] <pb> glxinfo not installed.
[13:51] <Erwyn> pb: if needed install mesa-utils
[13:51] <srabtnom> ubuntu really does a big mistake by endorsing so many laptops for dell
[13:51] <pb> allright
[13:51] <Coffee321> well I have enabled the card it's self & Ubuntu recognizes it. however I don't know if 3d acceleration is working. I don't think it is. And the Intel® 915GM x86/MMX/SSE2 is a low end card - but dose have the capability.
[13:52] <srabtnom> they're all certified but after an upgrade they start to suck horribely ... and bugs are not fixed i feel like i'm the only ubuntu user on this laptop
[13:52] <Erwyn> Coffee321: sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[13:52] <Erwyn> Coffee321: and then glxinfo | grep "direct rendering"
[13:52] <pb> Direct rendering Yes
[13:52] <Coffee321> also I have not been able to add an xorg.conf file to my system - it will not give me permission to add it.
[13:52] <Erwyn> pb: already activated
[13:52] <diverdude> Are there any PPA for boost 1.5?
[13:52] <te> Coffee321: gksudo
[13:53] <pb> erwyn: so then I log in in ubuntu but shows up unity 2d..
[13:53] <te> Coffee321: or sudo
[13:53] <Erwyn> pb: what do you mean by unity 2d
[13:53] <ModFather> Hi There, i was on channel PHP and they send me here, i own an ubuntu 12.04 i need to install php5 without suhosin patch
[13:53] <pb> ubuntu 2d i ment to say
[13:53] <Erwyn> Coffee321: install mesa-utils and do glxinfo | grep "direct rendering"
[13:53] <pb> login is ubuntu.  desktop session is ubuntu -2d
[13:54] <Coffee321> right I have used sudo commands - had to, because Ubuntu did not recognize my graphics card when I first reinstalled it.
[13:54] <Erwyn> pb: yes but what do you mean by ubuntu 2d?
[13:54] <pb> im running in 2d mode.
[13:54] <te> Coffee321: What is your display adapter?
[13:54] <te> Coffee321: What does lspci  say about it?
[13:55]  * genii-around thinks about taking "coffee" off his highlight list
[13:55] <Erwyn> pb: what are the symptoms
[13:55] <Erwyn> pb: how can you say that
[13:55] <pb> but all signs point to me being able to access 3d accelerated graphics
[13:55] <Coffee321> ok ty trying that now.
[13:55] <Erwyn> pb: what did you expect and don't have?
[13:55] <decci> How to install java on ubuntu 10.04
[13:55] <pb> whats command for bring up what gui your running?
[13:55] <decci> It doesnt seem to be in repository
[13:55] <te> Coffee321: lspci |grep VGA will probably tell you in one line.
[13:55] <pb> I cannot do basic 3d tweaks such as launch bar icon size .
[13:56] <auronandace> Erwyn: unity2d uses metacity rather than compiz, takes up less resources
[13:56] <relisher> decci - try openjdk
[13:56] <te> Coffee321: Do not paste more than one line to this channel.
[13:56] <Coffee321> direct rendering "YES"
[13:56] <decci> relisher: what command? apt-get install openjdk?
[13:56] <bobweaver> Does anyone know how to open the "Active Connections"  User interface from the command line. Like the same as going to nm-applet->Connection Information   that Gui thing. How do I launch that from the terminal ?
[13:56] <relisher> I believe so.
[13:57] <te> bobweaver: Does ifconfig or iwconfig not tell you what you need to know?
[13:57] <Coffee321> Intel® 915GM x86/MMX/SSE2
[13:58] <pb> as far as I can tell radeon 7200 is 3d supported.. yet im running ubuntu - 2d mode for my desktop session.. Do I need to install a driver or some package to enable 3d ?
[13:58] <te> Coffee321: What display driver are you trying to install? (And how are you installing it?)
[13:58] <pb> bah. out of time /afk
[13:58] <pb> bbl folks.
[13:58] <pb> thanks for the assistance
[13:59] <auronandace> pb: 7200? that sounds rather old
[13:59] <Coffee321> my display driver is installed - I just can't seem to get my desktop out of standard
[13:59] <pb> legacy =)
[13:59] <bobweaver> te, No I need that window for ui design
[13:59] <auronandace> pb: i doubt compiz would work with that
[13:59] <pb> it dosn't..
[14:00] <auronandace> pb: then how do you expect to run unity 3d
[14:00] <te> bobweaver: That window?  Which window?
[14:01] <Coffee321> pb: your problem is rather, the same as mine
[14:02] <auronandace> Coffee321: what graphics card do you have?
[14:02] <Coffee321> Intel® 915GM x86/MMX/SSE2 this is my graphics card.
[14:02] <sandieg> guys what is hroot@bt:~# apt-get install gpm
[14:02] <sandieg> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. appening? im getting this msg from the sistem all the time,
[14:03] <relisher> Is there an ubuntu for android channel?/
[14:03] <DJones> sandieg: Have you run the command it asks you to run?
[14:03] <auronandace> Coffee321: not sure about intels sorry
[14:03] <Baylink> QUERY: Trying to install mtop with apt-get on Ubuntu 12.04 from Amazon AMI.  It's apparently *trying to connect to the MySQL engine during the install*, without a password, and failing.  It *still* does it when I try to install the next package for something else, so clearly something's stuck in its craw.  Not sure if I should be asking #ubuntu, #apt-get, or #mtop; suggestions welcome.  Newbie to Ubuntu/debian, but 30 years of Unix
[14:03] <auronandace> Coffee321: i assume it should work
[14:03] <te> Coffee321: you can't get your desktop out of standard what?
[14:03] <genii-around> relisher: #ubuntu-phone   but not much activity there
[14:03] <Coffee321> no problem there auronandace :)
[14:03] <relisher> Thank you
[14:03] <DJones> sandeman: Its an error message that something hasn't worked properly with installing something, so you have to run the command it suggests to fix it
[14:04] <te> Coffee321: Again:  What display driver did you attmept to install?  And how did you attemp to install it?
[14:04] <Coffee321> Intel is rather proprietary
[14:04] <DJones> sandeman: Sorry mis-tab-complete
[14:04] <Mari_> Hi guys, is anyone able to help me install Ubuntu onto my new harddrive but through a bootable USB?
[14:04] <auronandace> Coffee321: no it isn't
[14:04] <te> Coffee321: The display driver that Ubuntu used by default should have been sufficient.
[14:04] <Kage> what do I need to do to get a application into ubuntu's repos?
[14:04] <auronandace> Coffee321: intel is included in the kernel
[14:04] <Coffee321> the display driver is installed and it was glasen/intel-driver
[14:05] <te> Coffee321: The display driver that Ubuntu used by default should have been sufficient.
[14:05] <Coffee321> te: by default my graphics was unknown
[14:06] <te> Coffee321:  Which was probably i915
[14:06] <te> Coffee321: Unknown by _________ ?
[14:07] <te> Coffee321: lsmod |grep i915
[14:07] <Coffee321> te: unknown by Ubuntu - completely unknown so It was lagging - especially with flash player
[14:07] <Kage> never mind, it is already in the repo
[14:07] <Coffee321> oops
[14:08] <Coffee321> te: now it's doing better like 1 step better no lag - however experiance is still reported
[14:08] <te> Coffee321: grep Driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:08] <Coffee321> te: to be standard by the system
[14:09] <te> Coffee321: THen how can we help you?
[14:09] <te> Coffee321: Do you have a question?
[14:11] <Coffee321> te: I think I need to finish my coffee before I continue (just got up)
[14:11] <Coffee321> te: however - my question is how do I get the 3d to work. I can't manage it myself
[14:12] <Erwyn> Coffee321: please glxinfo | grep "direct rendering"
[14:12] <Coffee321> erwyn: yes it reports "Yes" in Red
[14:13] <Erwyn> Coffee321: though it is activated
[14:13] <zetheroo> any firsthand accounts of someone using hot swap on a Thinkpad running Ubuntu?
[14:14] <Coffee321> Erwyn: I'm still new to Ubuntu - this "yes" is a good step right?
[14:14] <Erwyn> Coffee321: it means: yes your graphical acceleration (3d) is activated
[14:14] <uglyandstupid> can anyone tell me how to add new sudoers on 12.04 ? it looks like the admin group doesnt exist any more (tried sudo "usermod -a -G admin username" i got usermod: group 'admin' does not exist)
[14:15] <Coffee321> Erwin: te: Thankyou! that's what I needed to know.
[14:15] <Erwyn> Coffee321: you'r welcome, Amike
[14:15] <jacta> Ubuntu should have a daemon to disable trackpad while typing, should be installed but not used - anyone remember the name?
[14:15] <te> Coffee321: free |grep Mem > sysinfo.txt ; cat /proc/cpuinfo >> sysinfo.txt ; grep  Driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log >> sysinfo.txt ; pastebinit sysinfo.txt ; rm sysinfo.txt #..And paste resulting URL here.
[14:16] <jacta> found it, nvm! syndaemon
[14:16] <theannouncer444> hello world
[14:16] <compdoc> uglyandstupid, theres is a sudo group, but all I do is add users to /etc/sudoers
[14:17] <compdoc> uglyandstupid, theres also an adm group
[14:17] <uglyandstupid> compdoc: trying with this one indeed
[14:18] <zetheroo> is there a solution out there for Pidgin's contact window not showing up in 12.04 ?
[14:18] <uglyandstupid> compdoc: with adm group "user is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported."
[14:18] <compdoc> uglyandstupid, when you install Ubuntu and it asks for a username, it adds that user to several groups
[14:18] <compdoc> uglyandstupid, yup, thats what happens
[14:19] <Baylink> Oops.  Not sure how I fell off the channel; my QUERY above still open, about mtop and apt-get.
[14:19] <DJones> zetheroo: Sounds similar to the problem I have, I just close pidgin and restart it and the contact window appears
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: does it show with ALT+TAB?
[14:19] <DarkSim> Hello, I'm thinking of installing Xfce as my DE but I can't understand how to install it, can I get some help with this?
[14:19] <DJones> zetheroo: Not sure if there is a fix for it
[14:20] <DarkSim> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04
[14:20] <zetheroo> DJones: yeah - same here ... bloody annoying - ha
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> DarkSim: sudo apt-get install xfce4
[14:20] <zetheroo>  ActionParsnip: no
[14:20] <KYle111111111111> .help
[14:20] <KYle111111111111> !help
[14:20] <KYle111111111111> @help
[14:21] <tusharthantharat> Hi Guys i am trying to change the GUI installer image/logos
[14:21] <DarkSim> Is this the right command to install xfce?
[14:21] <zetheroo>  ActionParsnip: You are almost always on here ...  what part of the world do you live in... ;)
[14:21] <Erwyn> !guideline | kyle__
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> DarkSim: yes, the bare minimum xfce
[14:21] <te> uglyandstupid: Not sure why group admin would not exist.  Are you sure?  grep admin /etc/group
[14:21] <Coffee321> cat: Driver: No such file or directory
[14:21] <Coffee321> cat: /var/log/xorg.O.log: No such file or directory
[14:21] <Coffee321> The program 'pastebinit' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[14:21] <Coffee321> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[14:21] <Coffee321> rm: cannot remove `sysinfo.txt#..': No such file or directory
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: i work 12 hour shifts switching nights and days, so you'll see me a lot
[14:22] <Coffee321> maybe I did something wrong at that
[14:22] <DarkSim> I can't run that command
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> Coffee321: isn't it /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:22] <smartboyhw> Hi
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> !info xfce4 | DarkSim
[14:22] <zetheroo>  ActionParsnip: I have no issue with that since it seems you are one of the smartest people around :P
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> DarkSim: do you have universe repo enabled?
[14:22] <DarkSim> I don't know
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: hardly :)
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> DarkSim: try: apt-cache policy xfce4
[14:23] <te> uglyandstupid: I may have been scrolled up in the buffer a bit, your issue may have already been solved?
[14:23] <Coffee321> I would not know, not yet Linux based systems are so new to me.
[14:23] <theannouncer444> Hello again
[14:23] <ccz> Hey guys I'm relatively new to Ubuntu and Linux in general, how do I temporarily add a IP address to interface tap0?
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> Coffee321: it's very case sensitive
[14:23] <DarkSim> there we go
[14:23] <DarkSim> downloading
[14:23] <smartboyhw> Did anyone test the 12.10 Alpha 3 builds using ISO QA Tracker
[14:23] <smartboyhw> ?
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> smartboyhw: #ubuntu+1 for Quantal
[14:24] <aether> ccz: ifconfig tap0:1 xxx.xxx.xx.x
[14:24] <zetheroo>  ActionParsnip: well there is you and there was someone else ... something like bazhang or something ... also iconia ... very clever guys
[14:24] <DarkSim> Is it bad if I install several diffrent DE's?
[14:24] <te> Coffee321: Do you know how to Cut & Paste ?
[14:24] <Coffee321> LoL it's Similar to the old Microsoft Dos systems that I learned on.
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> DarkSim: not bad at all, you can install them all if you wish
[14:24] <te> or *"Copy & Paste"*
[14:25] <Coffee321> yes I know how to cut and paste, however Xchat is not letting me cut from it and past to terminal.
[14:25] <Coffee321> te: right
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> Coffee321: use CTRL+SHIFT+C/V
[14:25] <DarkSim> Coffee321: you can't ctrl+v in terminal
[14:25] <DarkSim> Oh so that's how you do it
[14:25] <DarkSim> I always used the right click paste command lol
[14:25] <te> Coffee321: Highlight with left mouse button,  dump with middle mouse button.  (or Shift-middle-mouse-button).
[14:26] <Baylink> ubottu: Yeah, yeah, yeah, "patience".  How long does *that* take??  :-)
[14:26] <tusharthantharat> ActionParsnip : do u have any idea about customizing debian installer GUI [Background images and logos]
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> tusharthantharat: you could rebuild the package, not something I've done
[14:27] <te> Coffee321: Or as ActionParsnip suggests Ctrl-Shift-v will paste.
[14:27] <ccz> tyvm aether is there another command that would do that?
[14:27] <te> Coffee321: There is a little more to it than what you had in the previous OS's you used.
[14:27] <tusharthantharat> Yes but i dont know exactly where i need to dump those images.
[14:27] <tusharthantharat> Any channel you are aware of?
[14:28] <tusharthantharat> thanks
[14:28] <Coffee321> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1110216/
[14:28] <Erwyn> tusharthantharat: there is an app for that
[14:28] <Erwyn> don't remembre exactly the name
[14:28] <Coffee321> right thanks for the walk through, I managed to copy past from xchat to terminal
[14:29] <te> Coffee321: Highlight with left-mouse-button and then shift-middle-mouse-button will dump text from here to terminal from "clipboard"
[14:29] <Erwyn> tusharthantharat: but you could ask arpinux irc
[14:29] <tusharthantharat> Okay thanks Erwyn
[14:30] <Erwyn> tusharthantharat: they use it for their distribution
[14:30] <te> Coffee321: Looks to me like your system is capable of doing all it can with the hardware you have.
[14:31] <te> Ok, gotta run for now folks... ttyl ...
[14:31] <Coffee321> te: yes it is working better then it was yesterday.
[14:31] <martk100> I have a small script which runs an application which requires root privilege to run. I have a file in sudoers.d what is the exact syntax of the commands in this file to run with no password?
[14:32] <smartboyhw> BlouBlou quit because of PI?
[14:32] <Coffee321> te: erwin: again, thankyou for the help. :)
[14:33] <Erwyn> Coffee321: you're welcome
[14:33] <Coffee321> erwyn: :-) sorry about the Tyop
[14:33] <Coffee321> erwyn: you know what I mean :)
[14:34] <Erwyn> Coffee321: yes
[14:35] <biopyte> hi, i'm still looking for a comprehensive package with free sound samples, in particular the famous Westminster Tower Chimes (Big Ben) ... any idea?
[14:35] <theannouncer444> testing
[14:36] <Gnea> biopyte: search google, that is off-topic here
[14:39] <zetheroo> is there a way to get the hard drive in my laptop to spin down when not being used? ... or is that already happening?
[14:40] <ThinkT510> zetheroo: i thought you were using a ssd
[14:40] <zetheroo>  ThinkT510: not yet ;)
[14:40] <biopyte> Gnea, hi Gnea, it's not OT if there was  a ubuntu package with sound samples, besides the regular gnome stuff
[14:40] <zetheroo>  ThinkT510: but I have come up with a plan for that ...
[14:41] <zetheroo>  ThinkT510: SSD will replace my current HDD and the current HDD will be use in an Ultrabay HDD caddy for storage purposes
[14:42] <Baylink> Does apt have its own channel?
[14:42] <genii-around> zetheroo: You might find the manpage for hdparm.conf interesting
[14:43] <smartboyhw> Don't think so
[14:43] <smartboyhw> No channel for apt
[14:43] <biopyte> biopyte, i wonder anyway, why there isnt (is there?) an ubuntu package with a whole bunch of sound samples ... would be nice
[14:43] <ThinkT510> zetheroo: sounds like a plan, t400 wasn't it?
[14:44] <zetheroo>  ThinkT510: yep
[14:44] <ThinkT510> zetheroo: good choice
[14:44] <Coffee321> biopyte: like a soundboard?
[14:44] <zetheroo>  ThinkT510: well it was tough ... I am having a hard time with the way things are going with the Thinkpad under Lenovo's management ...
[14:44] <fabio> hello
[14:45] <biopyte> Coffee, sound samples ... all kind of stuff ... chimes, knocking on wood, wind ... whatever
[14:46] <Erwyn> hello fabio
[14:46] <Coffee321> biopyte : there are lots available - for Android if your familiar with it.
[14:47] <fabio> hi
[14:47] <biopyte> Coffee, really, even though it's OT could you give me a hint? i googled it but couldnt find what i want
[14:47] <biopyte> Coffee, wavs, oggs, mp3s ....
[14:47] <Coffee321> biopyte: Android (phone) is what I am, speaking of.
[14:48] <biopyte> ok,
[14:49] <biopyte> we dont need more icon themes and this sort of stuff .... better make a nice package with 5000 sound samples
[14:49] <biopyte> :-))))
[14:50] <Coffee321> biopyte: whoever might do it, should tie the program into some, podcast broadcast programs :)
[14:51] <l3d> was looking to make a slideshow from pics and would like to add video clips to it and make a dvd  out of it all. any idea what app would do that?
[14:52] <ThinkT510> l3d: openshot
[14:52] <zetheroo> genii-around: is it just a matter of enabling DMA in the config?
[14:54] <genii-around> zetheroo: I think you'd want the -S for spindown time
[14:55] <partial_upgrade> Hi, I'm running Ubuntu 10.04. Running update brings up a message to do a partial upgrade, is there a way around this?
[14:55] <xangua> patie: yes, do it
[14:55] <ThinkT510> partial_upgrade: sounds like your last update was interupted
[14:56] <ThinkT510> partial_upgrade: don't worry, that won't move you to a new release
[14:56] <partial_upgrade> ThinkT510: The partial upgrade shows a list of everything installed to be removed, which is literally everything on the computer.
[14:57] <ThinkT510> partial_upgrade: what update got interrupted?
[14:58] <partial_upgrade> ThinkT510: No idea, I always complete any update successfully.
[14:58] <ThinkT510> partial_upgrade: when was the last time you did an update?
[14:58] <Richard_Cavell> Is there any limit to the number of sockets/cores Ubuntu can use?
[14:58] <partial_upgrade> ThinkT510: A week ago.
[14:59] <Richard_Cavell> Oh and by the way I'm talking about 10.04 desktop
[14:59] <zetheroo> genii-around: ok, but the spindown time (default being 24) is that seconds or minutes? ... I saw somewhere someone said 24 = 120 seconds ... !?
[15:01] <ThinkT510> partial_upgrade: is there a kernel update in the list?
[15:01] <smartboyhw> ThinkT510: What do you mean?
[15:01] <theannouncer444> ping pong
[15:02] <smartboyhw> 12.10 will be Linux 3.5 kernel
[15:02] <uzyn> I've been wondering about Ubuntu LTS repository package update policy. Can someone help me out? http://serverfault.com/questions/410977/ubuntu-lts-repository-package-update-policy
[15:02] <ThinkT510> smartboyhw: have you got me mixed up with somebody?
[15:03] <partial_upgrade> ThinkT510: I don't know, there's some gnome2 stuff and metacity, and a bunch of libs.
[15:03] <ThinkT510> partial_upgrade: if there isn't a kernel update in there then go for it
[15:04] <partial_upgrade> ThinkT510: I did a partial upgrade last year, which caused the computer to stop working. So I want to avoid doing a partial upgrade, and just want to continue with normal updates. Is there a way to do that?
[15:05] <ThinkT510> partial_upgrade: partial upgrades are only triggered if the previous update failed, you need to go through with them
[15:05] <smartboyhw> You are asking about kernels, right?
[15:05] <ThinkT510> smartboyhw: in relation to a partial upgrade
[15:06] <partial_upgrade> ThinkT510: I don't have a spare drive for backup, if I do the upgrade and have data loss, can I restore it?
[15:06] <genii-around> zetheroo: Apparently 60 is 5 minutes, whatever that works out to
[15:06] <ThinkT510> partial_upgrade: not that i know of, you really ought to have a backup
[15:07] <mang0> bobweaver: Hello?
[15:07] <hanning> hey, i am trying to reinstall grob from a live cd, although i mounted my filesystem inside /home/tmp, and specify the dir using --root-directory, grub keeps on telling me it cannot find a device for /boot
[15:07] <hanning> *grub
[15:07] <ThinkT510> partial_upgrade: i wouldn't expect data loss, just an updating of packages
[15:07] <partial_upgrade> ThinkT510: Thats what worries me about partial upgrades, I lost all my uni work last year.
[15:08] <ThinkT510> partial_upgrade: if it goes wrong you can mount it from a livecd and recover what you need
[15:08] <ThinkT510> partial_upgrade: but seriously thats the backwards way of doing it, you should have backups in the first place
[15:09] <partial_upgrade> ThinkT510: I'll wait another week or two in that case, because I'm getting an extra hard disk.
[15:09] <ThinkT510> partial_upgrade: good, better safe than sorry
[15:10] <partial_upgrade> It is useful to have backups, but I was waiting for hard disk prices to go down a bit.
[15:10] <xrfang> hello I got a new buffalo nas, and found samba file transfer is very slow, I am running ubuntu 12.04, anything I can tweak?
[15:11] <ThinkT510> partial_upgrade: i don't mean to lecture you but i find that if you don't have backups you are essentially saying your data isn't worth keeping safe
[15:11] <Baylink> smartboyhw: Thanks.  Any thoughts on my apt query, up-scroll?
[15:12] <partial_upgrade> ThinkT510: Thanks, I'll get a backup disk, and do the upgrade. I was out of cash for a while, so buying a hard disk was out of the question.
[15:12] <motherbrain> Can somebody tell me how this program http://www.gnu.org/software/pexec/pexec.1.html is anything more then using ssh and & to build parrell process and parrell remote process.
[15:12] <Erwyn> partial_upgrade: for vital things, you can use stuff like dropbox or a git repository; and i'm quite sure you could drop your word on uni's servers
[15:13] <Rikim4ru> Does anyone know a way to connect a Ubuntu box to multiple vpn server simultaniously?
[15:13] <Erwyn> Rikim4ru: you just have to create different tun
[15:13] <compdoc> I dont think theres a limit to the number of vpn connections you can have
[15:13] <Erwyn> Rikim4ru: and each vpn use its
[15:14] <slikts> why is my cursor getting stuck when moving to a different screen!
[15:14] <Erwyn> slikts: sticky border?
[15:14] <partial_upgrade> Erwyn: I've never used cloud storage before, and the uni's backup was too old, as the projects were new. I'll give dropbox a try.
[15:14] <slikts> Erwyn: sounds like it
[15:15] <Erwyn> slikts: unity?
[15:15] <Erwyn> partial_upgrade: no but you could drop your stuff on unis server the time to upgrade
[15:15] <slikts> Erwyn: I just disabled it from DIsplay panel
[15:15] <Erwyn> slikts: and? good?
[15:15] <Rikim4ru> what do you mean different tun?
[15:15] <slikts> Erwyn: it's a good thing because I was starting to feel like murder trying to use it
[15:15] <Erwyn> slikts: :p
[15:16] <aguitel> i heard about the next year ubuntu will come back to gnome 2
[15:16] <slikts> it's a retarded feature
[15:16] <Erwyn> Rikim4ru: do you know how a vpn works
[15:16] <Erwyn> ?
[15:16] <Rikim4ru> Yes, but i'm new to the linux environnement
[15:16] <Erwyn> slikts: no it for auto resize
[15:17] <Erwyn> slikts: when hitting border with a window
[15:17] <_ramok1> hi
[15:17] <slikts> right
[15:17] <Rikim4ru> I'm trying to connect my ubuntu box to multiple windows pptp vpn servers
[15:17] <mang0> bobweaver: I've installed your modded firmware, if you're there
[15:17] <uvictor> Hello, everyone,
[15:17] <slikts> Erwyn: I never use that feature
[15:17] <Erwyn> Rikim4ru: but why?
[15:17] <_ramok1> i've got an wildcard certificate from godaddy. i get a chain file gd_company.crt and another file my_company.crt. i guess my_company.crt is my private key. how can i get my public key ?
[15:17] <Erwyn> slikts: i do it with keyboard :p
[15:17] <aguitel> is this true ?
[15:17] <Erwyn> slikts: ctrl meta arrow
[15:18] <Rikim4ru> Erwyn: to setup a nagios monitor node
[15:18] <slikts> Erwyn: yep, those shortcuts are nice, I know should learn to use them
[15:18] <Erwyn> Rikim4ru: mhhhh
[15:18] <ThinkT510> aguitel: gnome2 is dead
[15:18] <Erwyn> in the grave
[15:18] <Rikim4ru> I want my nagios sever to be connect to all remote site.
[15:18] <aguitel> i don t think this
[15:19] <Rikim4ru> Most of them dont have a router that will let me do site-to-site vpn
[15:19] <Erwyn> Rikim4ru: i can't help you, i'm not vpn guru, always struggling with them
[15:19] <Rikim4ru> Erwyn, ok thanks :)
[15:19] <aguitel> ThinkT510, what about mate or cinnamon
[15:19] <LoboX> hi all
[15:20] <ThinkT510> aguitel: i don't know whether ubuntu will eventually support them, but for now they are unsupported
[15:20] <aguitel> ThinkT510, ok
[15:21] <LoboX> onething how can i unistall the last nvida drivers that i updated?
[15:21] <LoboX> from the terminal cause for some reason when i updated, and i log on into the desktop all the menus are gone
[15:23] <uvictor> Nice though it is late for me to sleep
[15:23] <LoboX> weird the global menu is gone, even if i entner a terminal theres no menu
[15:24] <Erwyn> LoboX: unity --replace
[15:24] <DarkSim> Xfce is ok
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> LoboX  logout and in, see if that helps
[15:24] <DarkSim> it's not super nice, but it's ok
[15:24] <DarkSim> Anyone ever installed a wallpaper clock?
[15:24] <LoboX> MonkeyDust did that same issue, and it happen after the driver update from nvida
[15:25] <LoboX> Erwyn ill try that
[15:25] <Erwyn> LoboX: unity --replace in your terminal
[15:25] <LoboX> checking
[15:25] <Erwyn> ok
[15:25] <sony__> DarkSim, using conky?
[15:25] <hanning> is anyone able to lend me a hand at Step 10? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#ChRoot
[15:26] <hanning> i am getting "cannot find a device for /boot"
[15:26] <darksifer> hi everyone. my friend has a samsung laptop rc530 and told me to install ubuntu on it which i quickly accepted. my issue is that the laptop does not detect my 2 pendrives on the bios menu. furthermore the boot menu is very tricky. timing is very important. can someone help me here. thanks in advance
[15:26] <DarkSim> sony__: I tried something called screenlets but I can't get it to work
[15:26] <Erwyn> darksifer: did you try pressing escape at startup?
[15:26] <DarkSim> I think I might have to uninstall screenlets
[15:27] <sony__> Maybe it's better to use conky?
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> DarkSim  screenlets are nice for screenshots
[15:28] <sony__> You can configure it for yourself as you like
[15:28] <Erwyn> darksifer: ?
[15:28] <darksifer> Erwyn: ya. i pressed ESC button which is very tricky but , i got the menu. but i got only 2 options there(DVD and the hard disk). Even the boot order in the bios does not detect my 2 pendrives.
[15:29] <LoboX> Erwyn onething for some weird reason im unable to type anything on the terminal im able to do alt + ctrl + t to open the temrinal but cant type nothing in it weird, so i boot from the cd again and everything is working how can i switch from the cd to the HD to use that command
[15:31] <Erwyn> darksifer: you probably have to enable something in the bios
[15:31] <RobOakes> Morning everyone. Would there be someone who could answer some questions about how the mdate property of folders?
[15:31] <Erwyn> darksifer: then plug your key, start pc and press esc
[15:31] <darksifer> Erwyn, nevermind. i had to shutdown the computer completely then switch on the computer again. then it worked.
[15:31] <RobOakes> What I need to know is if a folder mdate is a reliable indicator of changes in the folder contents, or just to the folder properties.
[15:32] <Erwyn> darksifer: you're welcome
[15:32] <emanup> ciao
[15:32] <islandmonkey> !it | emaunp
[15:32] <RobOakes> I'm writing a sync client and need a way to detect changes to a directory.
[15:32] <Erwyn> LoboX: boot on HD, login, when logged do ctrl alt f1
[15:33] <Erwyn> LoboX: then log into the console, and unity --replace
[15:33] <LoboX> aight
[15:33] <LoboX> let me chekc
[15:33] <MarcMueller> Hey my network is broken how can I fix it?
[15:33] <MarcMueller> server btw
[15:34] <SiPa_> hi
[15:34] <SiPa_> im pretty new to linux based systems and have some questions regarding the installation of this: http://www.par4all.org/repository/
[15:34] <SiPa_> can some1 help me?
[15:35] <Erwyn> !ask | SiPa_
[15:35] <islandmonkey> SiPa: Go to Ubuntu Software Centre
[15:36] <bigsky> what is the difference between ubuntu-10.04.4-alternate-amd64.iso  and  ubuntu-10.04.4-server-amd64.iso       ?
[15:36] <SiPa_> the last step confuses me (http://www.par4all.org/repository/) how do i use bash or dash? if i use the terminal it just displays an error
[15:36] <Erwyn> SiPa_: pastebin error please
[15:37] <MarcMueller> Hello I have a network problem I can't ping google.com but I can ping 209.85.148.113
[15:37] <MarcMueller> something wrong with nameserver or so
[15:37] <islandmonkey> SiPa_: Then go to Edit > Software Sources, Other Software tab and click on add.
[15:37] <ry> bigsky, the alternate allows you to setup LVM during the install, i believe it defaults to LVM
[15:37] <islandmonkey> that first piece of code on the article.
[15:37] <ry> i'm sure there are other differences, but that is the one of primary concern to me in the past
[15:38] <islandmonkey> The deb http://download.par4all.org/apt/ubuntu releases main part
[15:38] <Pici> islandmonkey: he said that he already installed it
[15:39] <SiPa_> Erwyn: bash: fg: %: no such job
[15:39] <DarkSim> I think if I could make the top window bar a bit fatter it would be alright
[15:39] <DarkSim> right now the top window bar is a bit small
[15:39] <Easykiln> hi i am running ubuntu 12.04 desktop and i've encountered some weird glitches lately. whenever i start my computer i am faced with an error: "system problem detected". where i try to get details it loads forever but shows usr/bin/xorg. Whenever I leave my computer on standby for very long, when i go back to it, it wipes out whatever i had been doing as if i hadrestarted. i tried uninstalling and reinstalling xorg, but all it did was wipe out my firefox set
[15:39] <Easykiln> tings that i can tell. any idea what is wrong?
[15:39] <Pici> SiPa_: don't include the % on the front of the line.
[15:39] <ubuntu> Witam
[15:40] <islandmonkey> Easykiln: The first problem is nothing to worry about - the second one - not sure
[15:40] <SiPa_> hmk Pici, i typed it w/o the %...now it does...nothing? idk; how do i start par4all? how do i notice the source /usr/... worked?
[15:40] <Pici> SiPa_: doing 'nothing' is correct.
[15:40] <islandmonkey> Easykiln: And you shouldn't be touching X as well
[15:40] <Easykiln> i assumed they were the same problem
[15:41] <Pici> SiPa_: read the documentation on how to use it
[15:41] <Siegel-> i recently upgraded my internet connection from 5mb to 15 mb. it seems to be even slower at times. sometimes its fast, but more often than not its slow. how can i check my internet speed on ubuntu 12.04?
[15:41] <SiPa_> hm the installation is completed w/ that step and i can close the terminal? (although it says there is still a process running?)
[15:41] <Pici> SiPa_: yes
[15:41] <Easykiln> the second thing is at least very annoying
[15:42] <bigsky> ry: is LVM useful?
[15:42] <SiPa_> thx, have a heart, Pici  --> ♥♥♥♥♥
[15:42] <islandmonkey> Easykiln: Apport is annoyingly sensitive with system errors. I quote from an Ubuntu dev (Bilal Aktar): "System processes die all the time, but usually revive themselves".
[15:42] <jackcholt> I recently "installed" mikogo onto 12.04 by extracting it from a tar.gz and I'm wondering how to add it to the application lens so I can start it with Unity.  Any ideas?
[15:42] <islandmonkey> And the ignore option doesn't work
[15:42] <Siegel-> anyone know how to check your internet speed on ubuntu? i mean, speed for streaming videos,. its extremely slow and they said that im supposedly paying for an inside network only for thei rusers or whatever
[15:43] <islandmonkey> jackcholt: Was there a .desktop file in the tar.gz?
[15:43] <TexNixk> Siegel : http://www.speedtest.net/
[15:43] <Easykiln> huh. ok. still, it would able to be able to leave my computer for ten minutes an have everything working when i get back
[15:43] <jackcholt> islandmonkey: let me take a look
[15:44] <emanup> ciao
[15:44] <Easykiln> it would be nice*
[15:44] <emanup> !list
[15:44] <jackcholt> islandmonkey: there is no .desktop file in the mikogo files
[15:44] <Siegel-> TexNixk: thanks its extremely slow, below 5mb, is it possible that ubuntu is causing this? because im paying for 15
[15:45] <TexNixk> Siegel : welcome
[15:45] <Siegel-> does anyone know of ubuntu causing wireless to be slow?
[15:46] <Erwyn> LoboX: so?
[15:46] <Erwyn> Siegel-: did you try win a windows too?
[15:47] <Siegel-> Erwyn i dont have wondows
[15:47] <Erwyn> so maybe it's not ubuntu
[15:47] <Siegel-> windows*
[15:47] <islandmonkey> jackcholt: Then you will have to create one. See http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-linux/122427-how-create-desktop-file.html
[15:47] <trasp> First of all, I've made a VPN-config through gnome, but it won't autoconnect even though I've set that option, how may I solve this problem? Also, can I block all (other) access to internet when connected with the VPN?
[15:47] <Siegel-> Erwyn: thats my question,
[15:48] <TexNixk> Siegel : i'm using a 15Mb WiMax connection ... my speed varies from about 8Mb to about 18Mb
[15:48] <islandmonkey> Once you are done, place it in ~/local/share/applications or /usr/share/applications.
[15:48] <Erwyn> Siegel-: it is possible if your wireless card isn't well supported, that's why, try with windows or mac os if possible
[15:48] <Siegel-> TexNixk: well i upgraded from 5 to 15, no way should it be 5.46 which is the final result i got through that website. im calling my provider
[15:48] <jakk> if anyone would like to help with the GNAA sponsored ubuntu based linux distro, please join #linux_for_niggers
[15:48] <Siegel-> Erwyn: its bcm 4318, it seems well supported by the b43 packages
[15:49] <jackcholt> islandmonkey: thanks.  That was my immediate guess after your answer.  I immediately started duckduckgoing (is that a verb like google is?)
[15:49] <islandmonkey> Then Unity and other DE's can detect it.
[15:49] <trasp> when not connected to the VPN, i meant of course. So that I don't manage to connect to anything and hold that connection before I'm connected with the VPN
[15:49] <islandmonkey> jackcholt: Of course it is ;) - DuckDuckGo FTW!
[15:49] <pb> nice ban.
[15:51] <Erwyn> Siegel-: so maybe not ubuntu's fault
[15:51] <LoboX> Erwyn man for some reason is sooooo slooooow, i did ctrl + alt + f1 and the terminal is not even coming up >:P
[15:52] <LoboX> i will just format again and dont install that last nvidia driver
[15:52] <Siegel-> Erwyn: im calling my provider. maybe they never changed it for me, so im waiting for them to pickup
[15:52] <LoboX> thanks for the help Erwyn >:)
[15:52] <Erwyn> LoboX: you're welcome. Amike
[15:53] <jackcholt> Once I have a .desktop file for mikogo do I put it in /usr/share/applications? Or where does it go?
[15:53] <jvillejoe> I am running xubuntu 12 and flash video on youtube is choppy and laggy and the sound skips is there a fix for this?
[15:54] <Erwyn> jvillejoe: sudo dpkg -l | grep gnash
[15:55] <islandmonkey> jackcholt: Yes. Or .local/share/applications in your /home folder (You'll need to enable the showing of hidden files to do that).
[15:55] <jackcholt> yea. thanks islandmonkey
[15:56] <islandmonkey> Your welcome
[15:57] <fabio> here can i speak about transmission?
[15:57] <fabio> i 've problem with it
[15:57] <Erwyn> fabio: why not?
[15:57] <islandmonkey> !ask | fabio
[15:58] <jvillejoe> erwyn I entered that into the terminal and it had me enter my password then I hit enter and it didnt do anything
[15:59] <Erwyn> jvillejoe: okay
[15:59] <Erwyn> jvillejoe: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[15:59] <sledges> hello
[15:59] <wN> hi
[16:01] <sledges> In a VirtualBox, I was upgrading 11.10 to 12.04 and tried to take a screenshot of "Keep or revert sudoers file" dialog window. It did not work, and after a while whole screen gone stuck and then black after resizing VM window. Still can SSH into it though.. is my dist upgrade borked?
[16:02] <enriq> hi. On ubuntu 10.04 my init.d scripts are not starting (e.g. apache2, tomcat6). They do run OK with service apache2 start, but not on boot. The symlinks are correctly set on the rcx.d dirs, and rc.conf exists in upstart /etc/init dir... what else can be happening!
[16:02] <jvillejoe> erwyn this is what it did after I entered that into terminal. "Reading package lists... Done
[16:02] <jvillejoe> Building dependency tree
[16:02] <jvillejoe> Reading state information... Done
[16:02] <jvillejoe> Note, selecting 'flashplugin-installer' instead of 'flashplugin-nonfree'
[16:02] <jvillejoe> flashplugin-installer is already the newest version.
[16:02] <jvillejoe> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[16:02] <FloodBot1> jvillejoe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:03] <genii-around> enriq: Are there scripts in upstart directory of /etc/init for them instead?
[16:03] <Erwyn> jvillejoe: already installed, sorry don't have any idea
[16:04] <jvillejoe> ok thank erwyn
[16:04] <sledges> hope you can answer my problem above. will check back from home
[16:05] <fabio> i m download a torrent with transmission but it's slow
[16:05] <fabio> why?
[16:05] <fabio> i am downloading
[16:06] <bindi> fabio: because your interent is slow and/or the torrent doesnt have fast uploaders. not at all related to ubuntu
[16:06] <Erwyn> fabio: this is not transmission's fault
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> fabiano: low number of seeds
[16:09] <NewWorld> fabio:  Maybe you're not connectable  (i.e. didn't forward a port for bittorrent)
[16:09] <bindi> NewWorld: he's downloading, not uploading
[16:09] <enriq> genii-around, nope, no upstart scripts, only sys v... but they should be running, don't they?
[16:10] <ry> bigsky, yes it's very useful
[16:10] <NewWorld> bindi:  You connect to more peers if you're connectable. So DLing should be faster
[16:10] <jackcholt> islandmonkey: thanks again.  adding a mikogo.desktop to /usr/share/applications worked great after adding some symbolic links to the mikogo executables in the bin dir on my home folder
[16:11] <genii-around> enriq: Yes, by way of the etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf  ..are these init.d scripts "factory" or ones you made manually or perhaps with update-rc.d ?
[16:12] <kroaken> Hey what ati driver should i installl against my HD 4670 ati?!
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> !ati | kroaken
[16:12] <kroaken> once i had the table but i lost it some time ago
[16:12] <HellsBells_> HellsBells
[16:13] <genii-around> enriq: If you made them manually, check they are +x
[16:14] <enriq> genii-around, they look factory, as per comparision with another 10.04 which works ok, and in both cases +x is NOT set for rc-sysinit.conf
[16:16] <genii-around> enriq: The /etc/init.d/<tomcat-or-other-sysv-script>   is what to check , not the rc-sysinit.conf
[16:17] <enriq> genii-around, yes, sorry, they are factory and have +x and owner root:root
[16:17] <kroaken> Does anyone got the table ?!@
[16:19] <enriq> genii-around, and in /etc/rc2.d I have the shortcuts
[16:19] <enriq> genii-around, ... generated by update-rc
[16:21] <osse> I'm trying to find the version number of a package on the command line. I tried 'apt-cache showpkg foo' but it lists nearly no information. It works on other packages, though. The package in question is xkeyboard-config
[16:21] <ossito> hola
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> osse  try apt-cache policy
[16:22] <suprrgshs> hi
[16:22] <ossito> Q tal estais
[16:22] <ossito> ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿
[16:22] <suprrgshs> i've a problem with transmission
[16:22] <WhyBotWhy_> Hey guys, really stupid question here, but why does xorg have 4 different log files in my /var/log? are different functions logged to different files?
[16:23] <suprrgshs> anyone can help me?
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> suprrgshs  i use it, let me try to help you
[16:23] <suprrgshs> ok i'm download a torrent but it is slow, why?
[16:23] <ossito> hola
[16:23] <ossito> hola
[16:23] <ossito> hola
[16:23] <FloodBot1> ossito: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> suprrgshs  depends on how many 'sources' there are
[16:24] <suprrgshs> can i write the torrent?
[16:24] <suprrgshs> the are many sources
[16:24] <ossito> kiero ser admin aqui
[16:24] <ossito> se puede
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> !es
[16:24] <suprrgshs> there are
[16:24] <osse> MonkeyDust, it says 'xkeyboard-config: Installed: (none) Candidate: (none) Version table:'  Weird. ISn't it a package in the normal sense? A fix was recentely fixed, supposedly in this package
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> suprrgshs  may also depend on the speed of the other pc
[16:25] <suprrgshs> can i post the link?
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> rather not
[16:25] <suprrgshs> so you control it
[16:26] <enriq> suprrgshs, most probably it's not an ubuntu related question
[16:26] <WhyBotWhy_> anyone?
[16:26] <suprrgshs> i think that my trans is bad configured
[16:26] <enriq> WhyBotWhy_, logs end with numbers?
[16:26] <Pici> WhyBotWhy_: after a log file gets filled up, it starts a new one.
[16:27] <genii-around> enriq: Is there anything in /var/log/boot.log ?
[16:27] <makezan> hello gurus I have a question, i'm using vino server, to remote into my machine, the problem however is once i'm connected, the image being displayed is like a mirror of my current desktop
[16:27] <amliby> If I'm rolling my own .deb that requires a postgres db to be setup for the software to run, is the proper way to create this db with a postinst script?
[16:29] <suprrgshs> monkey can i post in pv the link?
[16:29] <suprrgshs> so you control it
[16:29] <genii-around> enriq: ( or logs with the names of the failed daemons in /var/log/upstart )
[16:29] <enriq> genii-around, in boot.log only a fsck result
[16:30] <suprrgshs> moneky are you in?
[16:31] <bluewave22> hello ... can someone help me determine why I keep getting this "SYSTEM PROGRAM PROBLEM DETECTED" error message at login (12.04LTS): http://imgur.com/aWrGl
[16:31] <islandmonkey> suprrgshs: There are 2 people that start with monkey, me, and MonkeyDust.
[16:31] <suprrgshs> is there  anybody here?
[16:31] <enriq> genii-around, in /var/log/apache2 there are the usual apache logs with usual contents (i.e. after started with service apache2 start)
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> bluewave22: hit report problem to report the issues to the devs
[16:32] <islandmonkey> suprrgshs: There are 1670 people here
[16:32] <islandmonkey> !bug | bluewave22
[16:33] <genii-around> enriq: Anything informative in the apache2 log?
[16:33] <islandmonkey> But nevermind, in 75% of cases no one will reply back to you
[16:34] <bluewave22> okay just we just have a bug... any place I could look or search to let me know what service or program could be the culprit
[16:34] <islandmonkey> bluewave22: Apport is annoyingly sensitive with system errors. I quote from an Ubuntu dev (Bilal Aktar): "System processes die all the time, but usually revive themselves".
[16:34] <islandmonkey> So just ignore it
[16:35] <bluewave22> okay thanks for the feedback guys/gals
[16:36] <enriq> genii-around, normal logs in both access.log and error.log up to the shutdown (in error log it logs about SIGTERM) all this in .1 files, and then the new log starting with the manual service start
[16:36] <enriq> genii-around, the services are not even attempted to start I think
[16:38] <Chamunks> Anyone here point me in the direction to know how to configure gnome3's Screen Recording stuff?  The Ctrl+alt+Shift+R or whatever it is?
[16:38] <genii-around> enriq: Very odd.
[16:39] <MonkeyDust> Chamunks  try kazam
[16:40] <enriq> genii-around, any other log you can think of?
[16:40] <Chamunks> MonkeyDust, I've been playing with gtkrecordmydesktop but I find that the gnome3 one records really well on the fly but is unconfigurable.
[16:41] <enriq> genii-around, in any case many thanks for your help
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> Chamunks: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/01/help-test-new-screen-recording-app-eidete  also another option
[16:42] <Chamunks> !info kazam | Chamunks
[16:43] <genii-around> enriq: Offhand not anything I can think of to check. Did they work previously ? If so, what was the last thing you did before they stopped, etc ( upgrade, network tinkering, hardware replacement, etc )
[16:44] <Chamunks> ActionParsnip, doesnt look like it handles the audio all in one go.  From the quick video on that site.
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> Chamunks: i'd read the review instead :)
[16:44] <Chamunks> ActionParsnip, thanks I'll do that :)
[16:45] <Chamunks> Oh wow I like the keypress stuff thats neat!
[16:46] <Chamunks> !info eidete | Chamunks
[16:46] <enriq> genii-around, this is a somewhat "inherited" server so... I don't know really, I'm not supposed to check this stuff but I'm the one affected first when the services don't start :) I checked that all looks normal, even compared files by the byte with my local machine (exactly the same 10.04) and all looks normal... really annoying...
[16:46] <Chamunks> phoey
[16:46] <mang0> bobweaver: Hello?
[16:46] <bobweaver> hello mang0
[16:46] <enriq> genii-around, where are startup failures logged... maybe something is failing before the scripts or somehitng
[16:47] <emanuelep> ciao
[16:47] <emanuelep> !list
[16:47] <mang0> bobweaver: I didn't get the job :P, but the boss was quite rude, so I don't really mind.
[16:47] <mang0> bobweaver: Installed your bobsdriver, btw
[16:47] <bobweaver> and ?
[16:48] <mang0> bobweaver: Only just done it, hehe. I'm kinda here and there, but I need to re-boot I guess
[16:48] <bobweaver> mang0,  cool
[16:48] <genii-around> enriq: Might want to check daemon.log if you have it
[16:50] <bobweaver> mang0,  I am also in and out if you post and I dont see it ping me as I am working on Ubuntu TV ATM :)
[16:50] <enriq> ok I will, thanks genii-around. I will eat something, that might help. cheers
[16:51] <mang0> bobweaver: When you say ping, do you mean actually ping as in "/ping bobweaver" or as in high lighting you as I am doing in this message?
[16:51] <bobweaver> as in that last message
[16:56] <mang0_> bobweaver: No luck :/ I just did apt-get update and then checked if your thing was installed (it was) and then rebooted. dmesg says [   75.372118] b43legacy-phy0 ERROR: MAC suspend failed and the normal timeout thing...
[16:57] <Guest55127> is it ok to install 10.12 for my hd 4670 ?!? oO
[16:58] <islandmonkey> Guest55127: Of course it is :)
[16:59] <bobweaver> mang0_,  uninstall and purge th e repo if you like. And Like I was talking about the last time that we talked if this did not work lets just try the b43 all by its lonesome :)     so      sudo apt-get remove bobsdriver firmware-b43legacy && sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[16:59] <keirlav87> my audio isn't working on ubuntu (latest version) on a dual boot pc, do i need an additional driver or anything?
[16:59] <ynipo> -))
[16:59] <bobweaver> make sure you uninstall bobsdriver thou 1st :) or it will not know what to do
[16:59] <bobweaver> sorry mang0_  &^^
[17:00] <mang0_> bobweaver: Sure :)
[17:00] <MasterOfDisaster> keirlav87: which cards? which (audio) modules are loaded? does dmesg print anything regarding audio?
[17:00] <Chamunks> Would it be possible to get a general difficulty rating system across the board for ubuntu?  I think that it would be an awesome thing to have  a system that users could rate all things in the ubuntu community if they like on the difficulty of use.
[17:00] <MasterOfDisaster> keirlav87: *card
[17:02] <islandmonkey> keirlav87: Run lspci | grep -i audio
[17:02] <keirlav87> Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[17:03] <keirlav87> I think the problem may be that it's trying to use the front audio jack, which doesn't work, is it possible to specify the rear audio jack instead?
[17:03] <MasterOfDisaster> keirlav87: did you unmute the channels?
[17:03] <ynipo> open the software and see for your self , but it might be tricky :P
[17:03] <keirlav87> yeah i've unmuted everything I can find to unmute :P
[17:04] <MasterOfDisaster> would have been too easy
[17:04] <islandmonkey> keirlav87: Make sure you are using the correct card. I have two audio cards - one NVIDIA (which doesn't work) and the Intel one, which works.
[17:04] <aguitel> i downloaded some movie Re-encoded with [SPLVideo Codec] ,how to see this movie in ubuntu ?
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> aguitel: tried gnome-mplayer ?
[17:04] <MasterOfDisaster> aguitel: vlc, mplayer
[17:05] <keirlav87> how can i do that please?
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> aguitel: do you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed?
[17:05] <Jonii> Is it just me or has Ubuntu 12.04 been getting more and more bugs as it has aged?
[17:05] <aguitel> ActionParsnip, MasterOfDisaster no way with vlc or gnome-player
[17:05] <aguitel> ActionParsnip, i did
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> Jonii: depends on the apps you use really
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> aguitel: and w32codecs (or w64codecs) from medibuntu repo?
[17:06] <ThinkT510> Jonii: been solid for me
[17:06] <aguitel> ActionParsnip, i did too
[17:06] <emanueleleop> ciao
[17:06] <islandmonkey> Jonii: It's you. I have a few annoying bugs, but some people may have none, some people may have more.
[17:06] <emanueleleop> !list
[17:06] <emanueleleop> !list
[17:06] <Jonii> When I first installed it, it felt refreshingly stable. Now, alt+ctrl+shift+arrow moving windows doesn't work no more, clickpad ceases to work after few days of use, forcing relogin, X has started crashing, windows have been disappearing, icons not loading on launcher...
[17:07] <MasterOfDisaster> aguitel: no idea then
[17:07] <Jonii> I didn't have such problems for the first few weeks after installing
[17:08] <ThinkT510> Jonii: installed much since?
[17:08] <venkatmangudi> must be compiz acting up, Jonii
[17:08] <Jonii> ThinkT510: maybe 2 months
[17:08] <ThinkT510> Jonii: so its been 2 months since you installed anything?
[17:09] <Jonii> ThinkT510: oh, misunderstood
[17:09] <Jonii> I haven't installed that many programs really. Gnome Do, Emacs, org-mode, spotify, netbeans, chromium
[17:10] <Jonii> That's about it
[17:10] <okay> Hi, I was wondering if the ubuntu desktop cd has gparted on it
[17:10] <ThinkT510> Jonii: gnome do? is that in the repos?
[17:10] <venkatmangudi> what's your display card? have you been updating the system?
[17:10] <ThinkT510> okay: indeed it does
[17:10] <islandmonkey> !info | gnome-do
[17:10] <Jonii> ThinkT510: I think it was
[17:10] <okay> thanks
[17:10] <islandmonkey> !package | gnome-do
[17:11] <ThinkT510> !find gnome-do
[17:11] <ThinkT510> !info gnome-do
[17:11] <islandmonkey> Oh thanks
[17:11] <ThinkT510> Jonii: you using unity?
[17:11] <Jonii> ThinkT510: yeah
[17:11] <hasbreeneehall> I think unity is awsome
[17:12] <ThinkT510> Jonii: i'm not sure gnome-do is meant to work with unity
[17:12] <ynipo> 1bbbbbbeeeeeeeeeee freeeeeeeee
[17:12] <ynipo> got tyhe mail :P
[17:12] <ynipo> ttks all
[17:12] <Jonii> ThinkT510: seems to work just fine
[17:13] <hasbreeneehall> just as i thort
[17:13] <Jonii> I was told that it is better than Unity lenses + HUD
[17:13] <mang0_> bobweaver: Arite, I'm back at kb again, so I can sort this out. I've run that command, now I guess it's another reboot, right
[17:13] <ThinkT510> Jonii: if you fancy testing you could remove it and see what performance is like for a while without it
[17:13] <islandmonkey> HUD FTW
[17:14] <Jonii> ThinkT510: I just recently installed it, I haven't had any new problems after installing it, just the same old
[17:14] <ThinkT510> Jonii: i always thought gnome-do was only for gnome-shell
[17:14] <ThinkT510> Jonii: oh
[17:15] <ThinkT510> Jonii: installed any ppas?
[17:15] <Jonii> ppa?
[17:15] <ThinkT510> !ppa | Jonii
[17:15] <Jonii> I don't remember really :|
[17:15] <bobweaver> mang0_, yea Also make sure that you take out b43legacy out of /etc/modules
[17:15] <Jonii> Spotify is PPA
[17:15] <mang0_> bobweaver: Ah k
[17:15] <bobweaver> mang0_, so it dont load on boot
[17:15] <ThinkT510> Jonii: you can't remember what you've installed?
[17:15] <mang0_> bobweaver: Yeah
[17:15] <Jonii> But I don't remember if there are more PPA things I have attempted
[17:16] <islandmonkey> Jonii: You can find all the PPA's you installed in Software SO
[17:16] <wago> any help on how to change icons that are shown on the alt-tab interface? for example, the android emulator icon right now is pretty low res
[17:16] <islandmonkey> Sources
[17:16] <Jonii> software SO?
[17:16] <islandmonkey> Software Sources
[17:16] <islandmonkey> Sorry accidentally pressed enter
[17:16] <audrianore> Hahaha
[17:16] <bobweaver> mang0_,  this is what I am working on at the moment http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMgQpS8F6_o&feature=plcp    so like I said if I do not anwser right away :)
[17:17] <islandmonkey> audrianore: I don't find how that is funny
[17:17] <islandmonkey> ?
[17:17] <noodles_> hello, i want to setup ubuntu on a sd-card and have grub on the sd-card, i.e. i do not want the system hd (win7) to be touched at all. does the installer provide this scenario?
[17:17] <audrianore> islandmonkey: Oops, sorry.
[17:18] <islandmonkey> audrianore: Don't be sorry, you didn't do anything wrong. :)
[17:18] <Jonii> noodles_: yes
[17:18] <sample64> ciao
[17:18] <sample64> !lista
[17:18] <Jonii> I think, at least. I know I managed to install it on USB stick
[17:19] <audrianore> noodles_: Yes you can.
[17:19] <genii-around> noodles_: If the installer sees the card as a hard drive then you're off to the races ( if it has enough room on it )
[17:20] <Seryth> bobweaver: Bah, now it's not loading the drivers at all! Same ssb problem again I think
[17:20] <Seryth> bobweaver: Oh, I'm mang0 btw
[17:20] <mang0_> Sorry :P
[17:20] <noodles_> card is plain /dev/sdx, but i wonder if i have to hide the hd, or if the installer offers to put grub on the sdcar
[17:20] <jhutchins_wk> !list
[17:20] <MNIchie> Has anyone else had any problems with flash in Chrome since the newest update, running 12.04?
[17:20] <hwkiller-netbook> I haven't
[17:20] <bobweaver> mang0_,  add b43 to /etc/modules
[17:21] <mang0_> bobweaver: Already on it ;)
[17:21] <audrianore> MNIchie: What kind of problem?
[17:21] <bobweaver> at the bottom ....   Sweet mang0_
[17:21] <islandmonkey> MNIchie: What sort?
[17:21] <MNIchie> audrianore, all flash videos are at double speed and fullscreen doesn't work
[17:21] <mang0_> bobweaver: I was waaaaaay ahead of you on that, and to make me even more cool, I used nano instead of gedit ;)
[17:22] <MNIchie> Just started happening after I updated
[17:22] <housam> hello ubuntu room ppl
[17:22] <aguitel> ActionParsnip, MasterOfDisaster  if i use video converter?
[17:22] <bobweaver> mang0_, http://xkcd.com/378/
[17:22] <islandmonkey> MNIchie: I get the double speed thing
[17:22] <bobweaver> :)
[17:22] <audrianore> MNIchie, what did you update? Chrome, or the Flash?
[17:23] <infernox> flash seems to work well.
[17:23] <JPeterson> what's the best way to do the equivalent of "swapoff -a" permanent?
[17:23] <islandmonkey> MNIchie: But only when using th GPU heavily.
[17:23] <islandmonkey> the*
[17:23] <Seveas> JPeterson, remove the swap line from /etc/fstab
[17:23] <JPeterson> Seveas: thx
[17:23] <MNIchie> Chrome(which has its own flash)  Flash still works fine in Firefox
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: comment it out instead
[17:23] <Seveas> ActionParsnip, that's nowhere near as permanent :-)
[17:23] <mang0_> bobweaver: Hehe, gotta love xkcd! Rebooting again.
[17:24] <audrianore> MNIchie, I see. Was it the stable or unstable update?
[17:24] <MNIchie> auronandace, it was the stable update pulled from the repos
[17:25] <islandmonkey> Same here
[17:25] <auronandace> MNIchie: tab complete failure?
[17:25] <islandmonkey> But I've had it all the time using 12.04
[17:25] <MNIchie> auronandace, yeah, my bad
[17:26] <jellyg00se> Hello!, somehow I think I messed up my pulseaudio when trying to make my skype microphone detect. Anyway not 100% what I did but I installed ALSA which is working fine but I've got no media keys fn+volume etc.. and there's no indicator being displayed, I tried reinstalling pulseaudio but this hasn't fixed it along with installing apt-get indicator-sound
[17:26] <housam> can any one help me and tell me how can i make fix my flash player at ubuntu 12.04 in firefox for arabic lang
[17:26] <jellyg00se> any help would be appreciated :)
[17:26] <jellyg00se> version 12.04 fwi
[17:26] <infernox> I have an eeepc 1005 and when i type the cursor sometimes ends up clicking and sometimes pasting, running lubuntu 12.04
[17:26] <jellyg00se> fyi*
[17:26] <MNIchie> audrianore, Version 20.0.1132.57
[17:26] <bobweaver> jellyg00se, can you set them under keyboard shortcuts ?
[17:27] <bobweaver> jellyg00se,  with alsa that is
[17:27] <audrianore> islandmonkey, did you mean the double speed thing? (RE: I've had it all the time using 12.04)
[17:27] <islandmonkey> audrianore: Yes
[17:28] <housam> mmmmmmmmm i guess there is now way to do that
[17:28] <noodles_> genii-around: the card appears as plain /dev/sdx, but i wonder if i have to hide the hd, or if the installer itself offers to put grub on the sdcard
[17:28] <JPeterson> do I get a warning when the system run out of ram or does programs segfault without indication that memory allocation failed? (I'm disabling swap on linux running from slow usb 2.0 storage, because id rather have programs crash than cause swapping. But i'd like to know if i can determine when memory allocation failures occur.)
[17:28] <JPeterson> *than?when
[17:28] <infernox> you can tell grub where to install
[17:29] <JPeterson> *than=when
[17:29] <audrianore> MNIchie had the problem on current stable update, and islandmonkey had it all the time. I can't figure it out. :/
[17:29] <Seryth> bobweaver: You can probably guess the result....grr, even after adding b43 to the end of /etc/modules, still nothing. I'm gonna stick with this nick for now
[17:29] <noodles_> infernox: great, thxalot
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> housam: can you pastebin the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'   Thanks
[17:29] <Rikim4ru> Does anyone know a way to connect a Ubuntu box to multiple vpn server simultaniously?
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> infernox: do you have the latest BIOS?
[17:30] <infernox> yeah
[17:30] <bobweaver> Seryth,  do you still have the commands I gave you to make that list then pastebinit ?
[17:30] <jellyg00se> bobweaver: I've got into the keyboard shortcuts reset them as the keys but they were the same as before and within alsa mixer I couldn't find anywhere to assign shortcuts
[17:30] <bigsky> hi all
[17:30] <jellyg00se> but regardless this detracts from the indicator/sound manager on the taskbar :/
[17:30] <Guest18075> Hello guys. I came with a default asus problem with videocam. Here is a screenshot http://2ch.so/s/src/1343236705267.png . Why I can't preload the lib?
[17:30] <Seryth> bobweaver: I will, if I can just look through my history
[17:30] <Seryth> oh wait
[17:30] <Seryth> bobweaver: No, I've got them in a file, let me run it
[17:30] <infernox> what command can i run to see the bios version from inside the os
[17:30] <islandmonkey> Also as I said, this only happens after heavy use of the computer's resources (Intel Core i7 Sandy Bridge Quad Core, 8 GB RAM, NVIDIA GT540M).
[17:30] <MNIchie> audrianore, going to try the latest unstable and see if that fixes the issue
[17:31] <audrianore> MNIchie, sure, give it a try.
[17:31] <bigsky> if there are lots of sources in sourcelist, but i want apt-get to prefer source from local iso, rather than remote mirror, even when remote package is newer than local iso, i wannt aptget to choose local iso, what i should do in order to make it works as i want?
[17:31] <genii-around> noodles_: Ideally to make bios want to boot from the sdcard first and then hopefully installer sees it as sda  ( eg: the first bootable disk) .. but you can always specify if ends up somewhere like sdb/sdc/etc
[17:32] <talsamon> infernox, dmidecode
[17:32] <Guest18075> So can anybody help me?
[17:32] <genii-around> noodles_: Then to make sure grub goes there and not mbr of the first drive
[17:32] <Seryth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1110536/ bobweaver. Though it says in terminal that "find: ‘./b43legacy’: Permission denied" and "rm: cannot remove `/home/matrix/.wireless': No such file or directory" (my username is matrix). Also, brb dinner.
[17:32] <infernox> dmidecode
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> Guest18075: try: LD_PRELOAD:/opt/lib32/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype
[17:32] <islandmonkey> audrianore: Since this problem has occured all the time using 12.04 - I'm not convinced that unstable will help me. What to do?
[17:32] <noodles_> genii-around: that was my first idea, hiding the hd in bios. better safe than sorry;)
[17:33] <bobweaver> Seryth,  sudo apt-get --purge remove firmware-b43legacy-installer
[17:33] <Guest18075> Didn't help =(
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> Guest18075: or try: LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> I hate skype, such a mess
[17:33] <Chamunks> ActionParsnip,  skype is aweful
[17:34] <islandmonkey> ActionParsnip: Tried Skype 4.0 yet?
[17:34] <Guest18075> Didn't help too
[17:34] <bobweaver> Seryth,  can have two drivers loaded at one time that are fighting for the same card :)
[17:34] <Chamunks> Guess it would make sense that microsoft owns it.
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> islandmonkey: its installed but not used it yet
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Guest18075: if you run: sudo apt-get install libv4l-0     is it installed?
[17:34] <islandmonkey> It's much better
[17:34] <JPeterson> same question slightly rephrased: do I get a warning when the system run out of ram or does programs segfault without indication from the system that memory allocation failed? (I'm disabling swap on linux running from slow usb 2.0 storage, because id rather have programs crash than cause swapping. But i'd like to know if i can determine when memory allocation failures occur so I can evaluate if I should increase vm ram.)
[17:34] <Guest18075> Yep, it's installed
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> islandmonkey: as long as it stops making stuff appear to not work when its perfectly fine I'll be happy
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> Guest18075: LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib32/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype
[17:35] <MasterOfDisaster> JPeterson: usually OOM killer will jump into action, so a kill -9 will be your "warning"
[17:36] <thelonedrummer18> Dang
[17:36] <Guest18075> Nah, ignored one more time =(
lsb_release -a;uname -a dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|swf|spark'
[17:36] <MasterOfDisaster> JPeterson: this is logged in /var/log/syslog if it occurs
[17:36] <audrianore> islandmonkey: Is the problem only on Chrome, or both with Firefox?
[17:36] <noodles_> kthxbai
[17:36] <housam> LSB Version:	core-2.0-ia32:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-ia32:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-ia32:core-3.1-noarch:core-3.2-ia32:core-3.2-noarch:core-4.0-ia32:core-4.0-noarch
[17:36] <housam> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[17:36] <housam> Description:	Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[17:36] <housam> Release:	12.04
[17:36] <housam> Codename:	precise
[17:36] <FloodBot1> housam: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:36] <islandmonkey> audrianore: Only with Chrome
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> housam: yes I also said to use a pastebin...
[17:37] <housam> ok thxxxxxxxx
[17:37] <islandmonkey> audrianore: In fact, let me try Firefox
[17:37] <infernox> yeah 1601 is the newest version of the bios
[17:37] <KiteHawk> hello
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> Guest18075: ok run: sudo updatedb; clear; locate *.so | grep v4l; lsb_release -a     what is output please (use a pastebin)
[17:37] <KiteHawk> im having a input sound problem with 12.04
[17:38] <KiteHawk> i can't get the input sound to work but output is working
[17:38] <MasterOfDisaster> JPeterson: if you want to monitor memory usage, use your hypervisor's capabilities or something like collectd in the vm
[17:38] <iceman> hi run like 12.04 x64, but i need to use 32bit java and firefox. any ideas how i can install the 32bit versions for java and firefox?
[17:38] <Guest18075> Hm, guy from one forum said to add this library to LD_LIBRARY_PATH cause it's forbidden to users to preload not added to path libraries
[17:39] <Guest18075> How shall I do it? =)
[17:39] <audrianore> islandmonkey, how is it?
[17:40] <KiteHawk> ubuntu 12.04 sound not working. Any ides?
[17:40] <islandmonkey> audrianore: Gonna have to wait a bit, since I'll need to get my computer using all it's resources to make the problem cause
[17:40] <JPeterson> MasterOfDisaster: it's more a case of getting a message when the lack of swap cause memory alocation failures than to monitor usage. the vm has no way of knowing when memory allocation fails in the guest os.
[17:40] <MNIchie> audrianore, the beta fixed the speed issue, but fullscreen is still broken on dual monitors.  Since the behavior of fullscreen  changed with the update, I am guessing they did something to flash
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> KiteHawk: makes and models of things are useful, a question so bare will get no intelligent reposnces
[17:41] <MNIchie> It is at least usable now though
[17:41] <audrianore> KiteHawk: What sound problem?
[17:41] <NewWorld> Guest18075:  export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=:/path/to/wherever . Put that in ~/.bashrc if you want it like that permanently
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> KiteHawk: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[17:41] <KiteHawk> audigy sound card ubuntu 12.04 new install
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> NewWorld: or make an alias for skpe :)
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> KiteHawk: oh man those Creative lumps can be a pain
[17:41] <KiteHawk> you said it
[17:42] <audrianore> islandmonkey, using all the resources to make the problem?
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> KiteHawk: can you run the command I gave, upload to the server and a URL will be generated, what is the URL
[17:42] <islandmonkey> audrianore: Also as I said, this only happens after heavy use of the computer's resources (Intel Core i7 Sandy Bridge Quad Core, 8 GB RAM, NVIDIA GT540M).
[17:42] <infernox> on the eeepc all of the softbuttons work but the touchpad on/off button doesn't
[17:42] <audrianore> MNIchie, do you enable or disable the hardware support on the flash?
[17:43] <KiteHawk> ?
[17:43] <KiteHawk> command?
[17:43] <islandmonkey> audrianore: Sorry brb
[17:44] <infernox> he is talking about  wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[17:44] <KiteHawk> sry didnt c that post one sec
[17:44] <infernox> you run it from a terminal
[17:44] <audrianore> islandmonkey, oh, so it works normally on normal use? Wow, you got a nice resources on your notebook. :/
[17:44] <audrianore> islandmonkey, sure.
[17:44] <Guest2569> Hi, I've a little problem compiling syslog-ng, I've the following make error:/usr/local/include/glib-2.0/glib/gutils.h:352: multiple definition of `g_trash_stack_height'\.libs/misc.o:/usr/local/include/glib-2.0/glib/gutils.h:352: first defined here
[17:45] <Seveas> Guest2569, your local copy of glib in /usr/local is broken. Has nothing to do with ubuntu
[17:45] <MNIchie> audrianore, it is disabled
[17:45] <MasterOfDisaster> JPeterson: I don't see any othe method than external monitoring of available memory. Nagios/Icinga/Munin/whatever serves this purpose.
[17:45] <Guest2569> Seveas, should I to reinstall glib?
[17:45] <audrianore> What happen if you enable it, MNIchie?
[17:45] <MasterOfDisaster> JPeterson: gets offtopic though, so perhaps you should take this to ##linux or #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:46] <grendal> Unable to find default provider 'unity-2d-shell' of required provider 'shell'
[17:46] <grendal> how the hell do i fix that?
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> 18:41 < ActionParsnip> KiteHawk: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[17:46] <MNIchie> audrianore, same behavior
[17:46] <Seveas> Guest2569, no, you need to remove it from /usr/local and use the ubuntu-provided one. Maybe do the same with syslog-ng, no need to compile your own :)
[17:46] <PsyberS_> is there a unity keyboard shortcut to spread the windows for the active application? similar to clicking on the app's icon in the launcher (which triggers a spread for that app only)?
[17:47] <Guest2569> Seveas, I need two instances of syslogò-ng, I can't use the deb
[17:47] <KiteHawk> i had to go the slow way sry
[17:47] <Seveas> Guest2569, sure you can, different config should do the trick
[17:47] <MasterOfDisaster> Guest2569: seperate instances of the deps as well? why?
[17:47] <audrianore> Hmm, so it worked fine before that last stable update, right MNIchie?
[17:47] <JPeterson> MasterOfDisaster: well ok. just to make sure we understand each other. i'm talking about an equivalent of the windows kernel triggering the "close programs to prevent information loss" message when memory allocation fails or is about to fail.
[17:47] <MNIchie> audrianore, found a fix
[17:48] <audrianore> MNIchie, how?
[17:48] <Guest2569> MasterOfDisaster, log-server + log relay
[17:48] <iceman> i did sudo apt-get install firefox:i386 openjdk-6-jdk:i386 icedtea-6-plugin:i386, and i get this error:
[17:48] <MNIchie> audrianore, disabling pepper flash fixed the speed and fullscreen issues
[17:48] <MNIchie> From chrome://plugins/
[17:48] <KiteHawk> still waiting
[17:48] <Guest2569> Seveas, ok, good Idea, I've to make some trick in init.d
[17:48] <MasterOfDisaster> Guest2569: as Seveas suggested, you don't need to compile it for that - just start it twice with different configs
[17:48] <iceman> Errors were encountered while processing: firefox-globalmenu:i386    E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[17:49] <iceman> any ideas?
[17:49] <audrianore> Sorry MNIchie, pepper flash? It's a plugin?
[17:49] <Seveas> iceman, you'll need to give us the complete output
[17:49] <Guest2569> How could I uninstall glib
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> KiteHawk: waiting for what?
[17:50] <MNIchie> audrianore, yeah it comes with it by default.  I forgot what its purpose is, but I remember hearing that Google was pushing it a few months ago
[17:50] <MasterOfDisaster> JPeterson: I'm not aware of such a mechanism in Linux. The only mechanism I know concerning out-of-memory situations is OOM Killer, which just kills the biggest memory hog.
[17:50] <JPeterson> MasterOfDisaster: ok thx
[17:50] <MNIchie> islandmonkey, Try disabling pepperflash from chrome://plugins
[17:50] <Seveas> MasterOfDisaster, no it does not unfortunately. It just kills the unlucky one that triggers the tipping point
[17:50] <MasterOfDisaster> JPeterson: your're welcome
[17:51] <kevwilde> Hi, i purchased a lacie usb3.0 external drive but my pc does only have usb2 ports. When i plug it in, no /dev/sdX device is found. What could be the issue?
[17:51] <audrianore> MNIchie, I see. By the way, is it normal that I have 2 flash plugins here. :/
[17:51] <Seveas> kevwilde, well, exactly what you describe. You bought a device your computer doesn't recognize
[17:51] <mrdn> MasterOfDisaster: it kills _something_, not necessarily the "biggest memory hog"
[17:51] <Seveas> get a usb 3.0 adapter
[17:51] <Guest2569> Seveas, can I just delete the glib folder?
[17:51] <kevwilde> Seveas: i heard it was backwards compatible
[17:51] <MNIchie> audrianore, yeah Chrome now comes with Shockwave and Pepper.  Adobe is pulling support for shockwave on Linux though
[17:52] <Seveas> kevwilde, what does dmesg say after plugging it in?
[17:52] <KiteHawk> for it to process
[17:52] <kevwilde> nothing
[17:52] <MasterOfDisaster> mrdn, Seveas: http://linux-mm.org/OOM_Killer - at least it should kill the one with the biggest RSS.
[17:52] <KiteHawk> its done
[17:52] <audrianore> MNIchie, no no, that's not what it lies here. Hmm, please wait.
[17:52] <Seveas> well, than it's not as compatible as you hoped :-)
[17:53] <AlphaWolf> I am currently on WHS 2011, but I'm thinking of switching to Ubuntu Server. It would be my first command line-based OS (I've briefly used Ubuntu before, but never really used the command line). Is this a good idea?
[17:53] <Seveas> MasterOfDisaster, ooh, nice, that got improved! Sadly I'm still stuck on 2.6.18 for most of my servers
[17:54] <kevwilde> Seveas: thank you for your input, i'll load it on my other pc
[17:54] <bobweaver> AlphaWolf,  maybe get a virtual one going to get you feet wet so to say
[17:54] <Seveas> AlphaWolf, what's your goal with the server? It'll be a good idea if ubuntu can meet that goal, otherwise not.
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> KiteHawk: ok what is the URL given?
[17:54] <bobweaver> AlphaWolf,  there is also canonicals landscape services
[17:55] <MNIchie> audrianore, http://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=108086
[17:55] <MNIchie> The fullscreen thing is a known issue apparently
[17:55] <AlphaWolf> Seveas, I currently use it as a media server (Plex), network storage (backups for Mac and Windows computers) and a development web server
[17:55] <audrianore> MNIchie: I'm having 2 Shockwave Flash here. First, I have Shockwave Flash 11.3 r31, which is the one called PepperFlash. Second, Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202.
[17:56] <MasterOfDisaster> Seveas: well - last time I witnessed OOM Killer in action it performed as advertised on RHEL 5 (which is 2.6.1x), killing the process consuming the most memory. No idea on how it behaved before that.
[17:56] <AlphaWolf> bobweaver, I have heard of that, I'll take another look at it
[17:56] <audrianore> MNIchie: 11.2 and 11.3. Do I need both of them?
[17:56] <bobweaver> AlphaWolf,  you can install plex on ubuntu also
[17:56] <Seveas> AlphaWolf, that'll be possible with mediatomb, samba and apache :)
[17:56] <MasterOfDisaster> Seveas: or I was just lucky :)
[17:56] <MNIchie> audrianore, 11.3.31.218 is pepper.  Look at the location field, it should mention Pepper
[17:56] <Seveas> MasterOfDisaster, I think you're lucky. Mine are centos 5 too and I definitely had sshd killed by it
[17:57] <MasterOfDisaster> Seveas: that's very unfortunate *snicker*
[17:57] <Seveas> well, long live func. Could restart sshd with it :)
[17:58] <AlphaWolf> bobweaver, Seveas, I have checked all the programs I use and I believe they all have versions that will work on Ubuntu, but obviously there's no GUI (by default), so that way my main issue. I have setup a virtual box, but I can't get it to allow me to access "over the network" to test things and see if I'm doing them correctly.
[17:58] <AlphaWolf> *was my, sorry
[17:58] <Seveas> AlphaWolf, did you install openssh-server?
[17:59] <bobweaver> AlphaWolf,  you have set the network of the VBox to be bridged ?
[17:59] <audrianore> MNIchie, yes like what I said before. I read the location field. So I don't need both plugins, right?
[18:00] <bobweaver> AlphaWolf,  if you are all about the gui there are packages like lxde-core gnome-core icewm fluxbox they are all lightweight guis well all but gnome-core that is
[18:00] <AlphaWolf> bobweaver, no, but I've just changed that and I'll test it again. I guess I need to learn a little more about networking :)
[18:00] <MNIchie> audrianore, it is working fine with pepper disabled for me.  I'm sure it serves some purpose though, but youtube works and thats all I use flash for
[18:00] <thechef> not sure where to ask, but is there an eta for steam
[18:01] <bobweaver> thechef,  wish I knew that and also eta 4 unity3d 4.0
[18:02] <AlphaWolf> bobweaver, I would not be using this box at the machine, only remotely, so if the GUI works remotely, then I'll try some of those out, but otherwise I'll learn some command line things?
[18:02] <bobweaver> AlphaWolf,  it is always a good Idea to learn bash for scripting and all sorts of other things
[18:03] <audrianore> MNIchie, I see. After all, my PepperFlash version is 11.3.31.115, and yours is 11.3.31.218 on the latest unstable release, right?
[18:03] <The10thDragon> whats up
[18:03] <AlphaWolf> bobweaver, I guess it'll take a little longer to learn, but it'll be better in the end. I'll just get a tool to remotely use the command line then, thank you :)
[18:03] <MNIchie> right
[18:04] <BobMarley> hello
[18:04] <bobweaver> Yeah AlphaWolf  you could ssh over and vnc back but .. kinda a pain
[18:04] <The10thDragon> i have dl vmware but dont know how to install it..its currently on my desktop
[18:05] <ThinkT510> !vmware | The10thDragon
[18:05] <The10thDragon> thank you
[18:05] <BobMarley> i have installed thnderbird and after using it a bit i want to uninstal it, i dont know where (the folder)the emails that have been downloaded , nad now i would like to know if i will uninstall thunderbird thtought synaptics then the folder with all emails will also be delted?
[18:06] <JPeterson> how do i refresh the unity launcher icons? i have dragged a .desktop file to the launcher, and it's using the old icon even though i've removed the icon and readded it, and closed and started ('startx') unity
[18:06] <bobweaver> JPeterson,  unity --replace
[18:07] <Seryth> bobweaver: It's done, purged it....rebooting, gimme a mo
[18:07] <audrianore> MNIchie, great. We know the cause, so we can report it. Nice work. :)
[18:08] <dv310p3r> After installing LAMP via tasksel my desktop is gone, after restart I only get enterprise login?
[18:08] <dv310p3r> Ubuntu 12.04
[18:08] <The10thDragon> any 1 know how to set up an private irc?
[18:08] <AlphaWolf> bobweaver, Is it possible to create a partition on my current HDD and install Ubuntu Server on there, without formatting the entire drive? When I installed it it looked like I had to format the entire drive
[18:09] <bobweaver> !partition | AlphaWolf
[18:09] <bobweaver> er that is old AlphaWolf  sorry about that look up partitioning a harddrive
[18:09] <The10thDragon> any 1 know how to set up an private irc?
[18:09] <OerHeks> The10thDragon, join a #room that does not exist, so you are the 1st user
[18:09] <bobweaver> AlphaWolf,  what is OS on the server ?
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[18:10] <ThinkT510> The10thDragon: better answered in #freenode
[18:10] <AlphaWolf> bobweaver, Currently WHS 2011, which I can easily create a partition with, but I wanted to make sure it wouldn't format the whole drive when I install Ubuntu
[18:11] <ThinkT510> AlphaWolf: i always pick custom partitioning
[18:11] <pb> how we doing
[18:11] <bobweaver> ahh AlphaWolf  you can make many and I say you should for sql and apache but that is just me
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: press ALT+F2 and run:  r
[18:12] <AlphaWolf> bobweaver, maybe down the line, but for now, I'll just dip my toes :)
[18:12] <The10thDragon> .
[18:12] <AlphaWolf> thinkT510, I'll look out for that when I'm installing, thanks!
[18:12] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: why would that have anything to do with unity launcher icons?
[18:12] <ThinkT510> AlphaWolf: vms are a great testing ground
[18:13] <bobweaver> JPeterson, lets see the .desktop file plz in paste.ubuntu.com
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: its a shortcut to make Unity reload, so it will reread the config and reload, drawing the icon.
[18:13] <BobMarley> i have installed thnderbird and after using it a bit i want to uninstal it, i dont know where (the folder)the emails that have been downloaded , nad now i would like to know if i will uninstall thunderbird thtought synaptics then the folder with all emails will also be delted?
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: seems prett spot on if you ask me
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> BobMarley: ~/.mozilla/thunderbird
[18:14] <ThinkT510> ActionParsnip: just "r" or does that autocomplete?
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> ThinkT510: just 'r' on it's own
[18:14] <trism> JPeterson: how did you edit the .desktop entry? if it wasn't manually, some of the editors leave multiple Icon= lines, so you may not get the icon to expect
[18:14] <ThinkT510> ActionParsnip: awesome, thanks for the info
[18:15] <JPeterson> trism no its one icon line
[18:15] <andyrossy> how do i upgrade ubuntu to freebsd?
[18:15] <ThinkT510> andyrossy: you don't
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> andyrossy: reinstall
[18:16] <jagginess> andyrossy, what's freebsd?
[18:16] <genii-around> Heh
[18:16] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: r, <enter> does nothng
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> jagginess: its a completely different branch of Linux
[18:16] <andyrossy> ^_^
[18:16] <jagginess> ActionParsnip, oh really!
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: try: unity --replace
[18:16] <genii-around> ActionParsnip: Actually it's unix
[18:16] <ceege> LOL, or maybe BSD unix, which came long before linux
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> jagginess: yes, research and you will find (its offtopic here)
[18:16] <JPeterson> unity --replace flashes the display, but leaves the old icons
[18:17] <Seryth> bobweaver: Ugh, still nothing even after purging legacy-installer
[18:17] <bobweaver> JPeterson, Can we see the .desktop file lol
[18:17] <Andril> hello
[18:17] <ThinkT510> ActionParsnip: describing freebsd as a branch of linux is wildy misleading
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> genii-around: true enough
[18:17] <bobweaver> Seryth,  run them commands again
[18:17] <bobweaver> to get the pastebinit output Seryth
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> ThinkT510: a quick research and the user will be enlightened
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> ThinkT510: the world didn't explode...
[18:18] <Seryth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1110608/ bobweaver...again with the find b43legacy thing as before, it says  permission denied
[18:18] <JPeterson> bobweaver: that's meaningless. there's no special lines in it
[18:18] <bobweaver> Seryth,  what about    dmesg | grep b43
[18:19] <JPeterson> bobweaver: the problem is why the unity launcher doesnt show the icon in the file, but the icon that used to be in the file
[18:19] <bobweaver> JPeterson,  what kinda image is there a mistype ect
[18:19] <JPeterson> no
[18:19] <kantoka> Hi guys! I'm having problems with Gparted in 12.04 (64). When started, it just "Scanning all devices" forever. Any suggestions?
[18:19] <Seryth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1110611/ bobweaver
[18:19] <bobweaver> are you using quick lists ?
[18:19] <bobweaver> JPeterson, ^^
[18:19] <tcial> Hi, I have put the xUbuntu live CD into my computer, and I get a screen where there is a person in a circle, then after that, I get a black screen with a flashing cursor, what is the problem?
[18:20] <jagginess> kantoka, maybe there's a faulty usb connection
[18:20] <bobweaver> That is it that is all you get Seryth  weired
[18:20] <Seryth> bobweaver: yup...
[18:20] <kantoka> jagginess: No USB drives attached :(
[18:20] <jagginess> kantoka, by any chance you using ldm?
[18:21] <bobweaver> Seryth,  iwscan        works ?  DONT paste that plz
[18:21] <kantoka> jagginess: ldm?
[18:21] <jagginess> kantoka, brand new drive?
[18:21] <tcial> Is it to do with my graphics card?
[18:21] <Seryth> iwscan: command not found, bobweaver
[18:21] <vokevybez> try to convert .tar.bz2 archive into .deb archive output is ¨already installed a later version¨ but  i have not install how do i fix this?
[18:22] <bobweaver> iwlist scan    << Seryth
[18:22] <ThinkT510> !nomodeset | tcial
[18:22] <JPeterson> wheres the unity launcher config?
[18:22] <tcial> I just read about that, thanks ThinkT510
[18:22] <tcial> :)
[18:22] <tcial> ]
[18:22] <Seryth> bobweaver: k
[18:22] <kantoka> jagginess: No new drives. I just upgraded made a fresh installation on 12.04. Used 11.10 before
[18:22] <jagginess> JPeterson, search "tweak" with package manager, it'll then show up as a green icon with 'System settings'
[18:22] <Seryth> bobweaver: The only interfaces listed are eth0 and lo, neither of which support scanning.
[18:23] <ThinkT510> vokevybez: what is the package?
[18:23] <kantoka> jagginess: 11.10 were on same disk
[18:23] <jagginess> JPeterson, i mean search for "tweak", find the one, install it, then it'll be under system settigns
[18:23] <Seryth> bobweaver: wlan0 or wlan* doesn't exist O.o
[18:23] <JPeterson> jagginess: *file. i.e. wheres the config file
 a c2ctl.tar.bz2 archive
[18:24] <trism> JPeterson: there isn't one, it is in gsettings, com.canonical.Unity.Launcher favorites (and it is just a list of .desktop names)
[18:24] <ThinkT510> vokevybez: what is c2ctl?
[18:24] <bobweaver> Seryth,  funny umm..   do you have anything installed under additional driver
[18:24] <Seryth> bobweaver: nvidia stuff
[18:24] <jagginess> kantoka, are you trying to upgrade 11.10 with a 12.04 cd? (i'd be sure it's the same type of build, eg either 32-bit or 64-bit, dont install 64 on 32)
[18:24] <vokevybez> ThinkT510: an overclocking program
[18:24] <JPeterson> trism: there is no file? since when is data stored outside iles?
[18:24] <bobweaver> Seryth,  nothing about your wireless ?
[18:24] <JPeterson> *files
[18:25] <trism> JPeterson: well, there is the dconf database, but it isn't text
[18:25] <smj> I'm getting "minicom: cannot open /dev/ttyUSB0: Input/output error" when trying to connect to USB <-> RS-232 with minicom terminal
[18:25] <jagginess> JPeterson, what are you trying to ask?
[18:25] <ThinkT510> !checkinstall | vokevybez
[18:25] <kantoka> jagginess: No upgrade. Made a fresh install by writing over the "11.10" content
[18:25] <Seryth> bobweaver: Nothing
[18:26] <JPeterson> jagginess: i'm tracing an error. that the unity launcher, when dragging a .desktop to it, display another icon that the one specified in the .desktop file
[18:26] <Dice-Man> hi
[18:26] <jagginess> kantoka, that doesnt sound too good, you should backup the data, then wipe out your install by reformatting it..(there's alot of junk left hanging around)
[18:26] <JPeterson> *that=than
[18:26] <Dice-Man> i cannot change my terminal profile
[18:26] <audrianore> Hi, Dice-Man.
[18:26] <jagginess> kantoka, by backing up data, i mean /home only of course
[18:27] <Dice-Man> anyone know how to solve this ?
[18:27] <vokevybez> ThinkT510: iĺl chaeck right now
[18:27] <jagginess> JPeterson, you're trying to make desktop launchers?
[18:27] <vokevybez> check i mean
[18:27] <bobweaver> Seryth,  sudo apt-get install firmware-b43legacy-installer && sudo apt-get remove  firmware-b43-installer
[18:27] <tcial> What is the difference between primary and logical partitions?
[18:28] <JPeterson> jagginess: ya if it's not beyond my education level
[18:28] <audrianore> Change your terminal profile like what, Dice-Man?
[18:28] <JPeterson> gsettings get com.canonical.Unity.Launcher displays nothing basically
[18:28] <jagginess> JPeterson, i believe you need to enable it with the ubuntu tweak tool..
[18:28] <ThinkT510> vokevybez: beware of dependencies, compiling really should be the last resort
[18:29] <jagginess> JPeterson, (it may be called ubuntu-tweak, which tweaks the unity desktop-- there would be a switch to allow desktop launcher/icons)
[18:29] <Seryth> bobweaver: Do I need to put b43legacy back in /etc/modules?
[18:29] <kantoka> jagginess: I installed 12.04 from install CD, choosing the option #2 in partition step (losing any previous content )
[18:29] <JPeterson> jagginess: they are all
[18:29] <JPeterson> allowed
[18:29] <ThinkT510> tcial: you can have a totale of 4 primary partitions, an extended partition contains logical partitions
[18:29] <tcial> Weird, Ubuntu isn't toggling my caps lock light
[18:29] <bobweaver> Seryth,  not at this moment run the sudo modprobe b43legacy
[18:29] <trism> JPeterson: there really isn't any magic to it, unless possibly you named the .desktop file the same name as another one somewhere else (but that seems to be fixed in 12.04), then there is probably an error in the .desktop file itself
[18:30] <Seryth> bobweaver: Great, network is now being displayed
[18:30] <Seryth> I'll try connecting
[18:30] <jagginess> ThinkT510, the idea of "logical partitions" doesnt exist in GPT.. it only exists in dosmbr partition table style. (wikipedia has info on this)
[18:30] <vokevybez> ThinkT510: yup iĺl check them with apt-rdepends
[18:30] <burnt> would it be possible to do a base install of say ubuntu 8 and just upgrade the distro to 12.04
[18:30] <burnt> and not have any probs?
[18:30] <ThinkT510> jagginess: i'm aware of that
[18:31] <JPeterson> trism: how do i show the launcher settings. gsettings get com.canonical.Unity.Launcher fails
[18:31] <ThinkT510> jagginess: is he using gpt?
[18:31] <trism> JPeterson: gsettings get com.canonical.Unity.Launcher favorites;
[18:32] <jagginess> ThinkT510, the old days of 16-bit dos was limitted to "4" partitions.. so a way to overcome 4 partitions was to make a "fake" partition, which is an "extended" partition. This "extended" partition actually "extended" the partition table to hold more entries.. (so essentially the extended partition "hosts" another partition table, which is consecutive records to sector 0)
[18:32] <genii-around> burnt: You'd have to go 8.04-10.04-12.04
[18:32] <JPeterson> trism: thx. it lists the right .dekstop file
[18:32] <vokevybez> ThinkT510: so if i use check install i can convert the *.tar.bz2 file into *.deb?
[18:32] <JPeterson> step 2. where is the unity luancher icon cache?
[18:32] <ThinkT510> jagginess: again, i know this, somebody was asking and that was what i was explaining to them
[18:32] <jagginess> ThinkT510, parted /dev/<DEVICE> p   , would say if its msdos (aka dosmbr), or GPT
[18:33] <ThinkT510> vokevybez: it would compile it and create a deb at the end
[18:33] <ThinkT510> vokevybez: provided it doesn't run into errors
[18:34] <vokevybez> ThinkT510: ok will reply after i complete
[18:34] <ubuntuusers> Hello, I have a question regarding Cinnamon/Mate. I'm using Ubuntu since I got some problems with Mint but still want to try out those WMs. Should I add them via PPA or add the Mint-Repo to the sources.list?
[18:34] <Seryth> bobweaver: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1110625/
[18:34] <Seryth> bobweaver: That's dmesg
[18:35] <JPeterson> trism: i see now, missed it before, that there is a Icon[en_US] and a Icon entry
[18:35] <bobweaver> Seryth,  sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree
[18:36] <Sven9> Hi im having some issues to migrate zimbra 6.0.6 server to a newer 7.2.0
[18:36] <ThinkT510> ubuntuusers: we can't really help you, those are unsupported desktops
[18:36] <Sven9> imapsync failes unfortunatly and im stuck because i really need to move inboxes mail aliases and users to the new server
[18:36] <Seryth> bobweaver: Okay, it's installed
[18:36] <trism> JPeterson: working now?
[18:37] <Seryth> bobweaver: Should I reload the b43legacy?
[18:37] <bobweaver> Seryth,  sudo rmmod b43legacy  && sudo modprobe b43legacy
[18:37] <jagginess> ThinkT510, there's only 1 desktop, and that's unity lol.. anything else becomes broked :p
[18:37] <ThinkT510> ubuntuusers: just so you know, never mix repos
[18:37] <Seryth> bobweaver: I predicted it \o/ I'm learning! :)
[18:37] <ThinkT510> jagginess: why are you telling me this?
[18:37] <jagginess> ThinkT510, PPA's are fine.. but he should be aware how safe the adding ppa is
[18:37] <bobweaver> Seryth,  :)
[18:37] <jagginess> !ppa
[18:38] <Seryth> bobweaver: Oh, and just out of interest, does iwlist scan scan for wireless networks much faster than if I waited for it to do it automatically?
[18:38] <gogo_> sa herkese
[18:38] <ThinkT510> jagginess: there are several supported desktops
[18:38] <ThinkT510> jagginess: xfce, gnome-shell, kde, lxde
[18:38] <bobweaver> Seryth,  Not sure to be 100% honest
[18:39] <Seryth> bobweaver: Exactly the same result as what I pastebinned to you before - wlan2 timed out, probe responded, timed out
[18:39] <gogo_> hi everyone can i ask a question
[18:39] <Seryth> !ask | gogo_
[18:39] <jagginess> yes, there's a good number of them, even light window managers.. perhaps he should know he doesnt really need ppa if he can find one he wants already int he official repos.. but trying to set back unity afterwards is problematic (from experience.. hence unity seems to be the only desktop really supported)
[18:40] <bobweaver> Seryth,  ok lets look at innterfaces file I guess       cat /etc/network/interfaces | pastebinit
[18:40] <gogo_> i want play games on playonlinux but i did not see a price on games how can i know games prices ?
[18:40] <DarkSim> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04, I selected Gnome classic, now I have no system tray and I can't log out. It's set to auto login so I can't change if I reboot the comp
[18:40] <Seryth> bobweaver: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1110642/ and is it just me, or is this a really weird problem?
[18:41] <DarkSim> How can I log out without a system tray?
[18:41] <trism> DarkSim: did you remove the indicator-applet? alt+right click, add to panel, indicator applet complete
[18:41] <bobweaver> Seryth,  mind if I PM you ?
[18:41] <trism> DarkSim: gnome-session-quit; in a terminal will also allow you to log out
[18:42] <Seryth> bobweaver: Go ahead
[18:42] <x12> I have a problem with installing ubuntu, i had nomodeset, and I got to 'downloading packages' and now I have a black screen, the screen says no signal
[18:42] <gogo_> i want play games on playonlinux but i did not see a price on games how can i know games prices
[18:42] <romy420> DarkSim ... CTRL-ALT-DEL
[18:43] <x12> What could cause it?
[18:43] <x12> The HDD light is flashing, and the cd spins up every so often, so I think it's still installing
[18:43] <x12> i don't want to reboot it
[18:44] <gogo_> i want play games on playonlinux but i did not see a price on games how can i know games prices
[18:44] <ThinkT510> gogo_: you need to own the game, playsonlinux doesn't sell them
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> gogo_  visit their websites
[18:44] <gogo_> ok i got it
[18:44] <x12> Any idea why this has happened?
[18:44] <gogo_> regards
[18:45] <x12> I can access CTRL+ALT+F1
[18:45] <x12> Oh wait, it's back now -_-
[18:45] <JPeterson> how do i drag the unity launcher to another side? (i.e. top, right, bottom)
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> JPeterson  not
[18:45] <ThinkT510> JPeterson: not supported
[18:46] <JPeterson> ok
[18:47] <silver_star_iri> netstat -nt | grep :80 | wc -l
[18:47] <burnt> genii-around, ah, why though?
[18:47] <silver_star_iri> how many connection is acceptable ?
[18:49] <silver_star_iri> netstat -alpn | grep :80 | awk '{print $5}' |awk -F: '{print $(NF-1)}' |sort | uniq -c | sort -n  I have IP with more than 100 conection is it normal ?
[18:50] <flux242> hi, I have a strange problem with the network-manager. If I disconnect from an access point on 13 channel it is not possible to connect again. It seems like network-managers sees only up to 11 channel (sic!). Only reboot helps. ath5k
[18:50] <Geemili> Is this the right place to ask questions about ubuntu server?
[18:50] <Pici> Geemili: yes, but theres also #ubuntu-server
[18:50] <Geemili> Ok. I think I'll go there
[18:51] <flux242> and it's perfectly legal to use channels up to 13 in my place
[18:52] <xomp> hello, would anyone know how I can copy one machine to another via rsync? I want to clone one system to another if that makes sense.
[18:52] <ThinkT510> !clone | xomp
[18:53] <xomp> ThinkT510, can that be done via terminal? I do not use a DE currently.
[18:54] <ThinkT510> xomp: all those are terminal commands
[18:54] <xomp> sorry, I can't really tell since I'm getting strange character encoding on my end in XChat
[18:55] <ThinkT510> xomp: i'm using xchat too, comes out fine here
[18:55] <xomp> this is what I get
[18:55] <xomp> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » (this currently may cause problems with multiarch) - See also !automate
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> xomp  that's the factoid tet
[18:56] <ThinkT510> xomp: yeah, thats what the bot pasted
[18:56] <xomp> hmm, okay, let me see if I can fat finger these strange symbols in
[18:56] <ThinkT510> xomp: maybe a screenshot will help us to see what you see
[18:56] <arielsanflo> hello
[18:56] <audrianore> Hello
[18:56] <ScaN> asd
[18:58] <xomp> ThinkT510, good idea, http://i.imgur.com/iaxTV.png
[18:58] <xomp> my font in XChat is Segoe UI Semi-Bold 11
[18:59] <vokevybez> ThinkT510: ERROR! it outputs ¨/var/tmp/tmp.amGhBgKKty/installscript.sh: 4: /var/tmp/tmp.amGhBgKKty/installscript.sh: c2ctl.tar.bz2: not found
[18:59] <vokevybez> ¨ When i input sudo checkinstall
[18:59] <ThinkT510> xomp: just type what is between the A>> things
[18:59] <vokevybez> sudo checkinstall -D c2ctl.tar.bz2
[18:59] <MonkeyDust> xomp  where did you type that?
[19:00] <zlude> Hello! some can help me with check if my network interface support jumbo frames? Look: https://gist.github.com/8b7d180426fe3eaf91e1 for me looks like that eth1 and peth0 support jumbo frames. am i sure?
[19:00] <xomp> MonkeyDust, that's the bots reply, not mine.
[19:00] <theannouncer444> testing
[19:00] <ThinkT510> !test | theannouncer222
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> xomp  first time you use the terminal?
[19:01] <Luceo> Which is stable Ubuntu? Quantal?
[19:01] <xomp> ThinkT510, thanks that seems to work, it was hard for me to discern where the command began and ended with all that uneccessary tet stuff
[19:01] <MonkeyDust> Luceo  in october, you're too early
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> Luceo  12.04 is the latest stable
[19:02] <Luceo> 12.04 is precise right?
[19:02] <Luceo> and its LTS?
[19:02] <ThinkT510> xomp: no worries, those strange symbols were meant to come out as duoble arrows (indicating the command within)
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> Luceo  yes
[19:02] <b0nghitter> i installed qemu-kvm on ubuntu server 12.04 32bit, but when i run qemu-system-i386 it says it  cannot find the KVM kernel module.. i did not choose "host a vierual machine" during the os installation, as i didnt think i needed it, if that matters. what do i need to install to enable the kvm kernel module?
[19:02] <b0nghitter> *virtual machine
[19:03] <vokevybez> yeah
[19:03] <espogb92> ciao
[19:03] <espogb92> !list
[19:05] <ScaN> !list
[19:05] <ScaN> !list
[19:05] <ScaN> !bot
[19:05] <ScaN> !bot la concha de tu madre
[19:05] <ScaN> !bot hijo de un camion de putas!
[19:06] <zlude> no ideas about jumbo frames?
[19:06] <opus_great> hello
[19:06] <Lucciano> hi guys, pls help me to get a bnc
[19:07] <hanning> lets say i can browse and see /boot/grub from within grub rescue, but when trying to boot that partition, grub isn't able to find anything there. what could be a cause for this? (no raid or anything here)
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> Lucciano  what's a bnc?
[19:09] <Luceo> MonkeyDust: IRC bouncer
[19:10] <Luceo> It's something you connect to which keeps you always connected
[19:11] <b0nghitter> yummy, strong coffee
[19:11] <troulouliou_dev> hi i have a custom startup script from a live USB disk based on ubuntu that set the same mac address to 2 nic
[19:11] <b0nghitter> i installed qemu-kvm package qith apt-get, but qemu-system-i386 says the kvm kernel module was not found. do i need to install something else?
[19:11] <troulouliou_dev> is it possible to know the origina lnick
[19:12] <troulouliou_dev> the original nic mac adress
[19:12] <Lucciano> MonkeyDust: so, anny ideas?
[19:12] <Lucciano> any*
[19:13] <b0nghitter> troulouliou_dev, boot on a live cd whcih will not change the mac
[19:13] <b0nghitter> ubuntu desktop for example
[19:13] <b0nghitter> then write it down
[19:14] <troulouliou_dev> b0nghitter, yep nice tip :)
[19:14] <b0nghitter> dmesg might show the original also
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> Lucciano  i had never heard of it, so no
[19:15] <Lucciano> MonkeyDust: thx anyway
[19:17] <wifioregon> hi. I just installed Ubuntu on a laptop but it has a restricted wifi adapter. I only have wifi access, so would it be possible to download the driver on another computer and transfer it over with a USB flash stick? Or do I have to run the "restricted drivers" program while connected via ethernet?
[19:17] <Lucciano> is here anyone from Russia?
[19:17] <Lucciano> .. or the region
[19:17] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[19:19] <b0nghitter> http://askubuntu.com/questions/140360/kvm-kernel-module-error - i need VT-x to support KVM?
[19:19] <b0nghitter> wierd, i ran qemu with kvm long before any vt-x cpu's were made
[19:20] <Lucciano> !it
[19:20] <bekks> b0nghitter: Is the KVM module loaded?
[19:20] <b0nghitter> bekks, i installed qemu-kvm, but im not sure if it loads the kvm module... how do i check?
[19:20] <MonkeyDust> b0nghitter  there's a channel called #kvm
[19:21] <bekks> b0nghitter: lsmod|grep kvm
[19:21] <b0nghitter> ok ty, ill check now
[19:21] <wifioregon> So do I need to run the "additional drivers" while plugged in ethernet in order to install wifi?  Or can I download the driver on another computer and bring it over?
[19:21] <b0nghitter> bekks, nope, it appears it is not loaded
[19:23] <b0nghitter> there is kvm.ko kvm-amd.ko and kvm-intel.ko... do i just modprobe kvm, or all 3?
[19:25] <bekks> b0nghitter: just kvm
[19:25] <b0nghitter> ok ty
[19:26] <xomp> ThinkT510, the second half of that !clone output isn't working for me. I get "xargs: aptitude: No such file or directory" error
[19:27] <xomp> !clone
[19:27] <ai9371> my dell laptop inspiron says wireless disabled by hardware swiitch
[19:27] <xomp> this part > sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install
[19:27] <ThinkT510> xomp: this?: sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install
[19:27] <xomp> ThinkT510, yep, that's the one
[19:28] <PsyCoil> Does anyone know If I can use globalmenu on the latest gnome-shell? I mean the classic menu that contains a list of actions "file, windows, help" etc
[19:28] <ThinkT510> xomp: hmm, sorry i can't help, i'm just aware of the factoid
[19:28] <xomp> xargs: aptitude: No such file or directory
[19:28] <xomp> sudo: aptitude: command not found
[19:28] <xomp> ah ok
[19:28] <ThinkT510> xomp: ah
[19:28] <ThinkT510> xomp: aptitude isn't installed by default anymore
[19:29] <xomp> ThinkT510, does that mean I have to strangly do 'apt-get aptitude' ?
[19:29] <xomp> I'm not following lol
[19:29] <ThinkT510> xomp: you'd need to install that or translate those commands into apt-get equivilants
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> xomp  type /msg ubottu aptitude to find out why
[19:30] <fellayaboy> where can i find info on developing gnome 3 panel applets
[19:30] <xomp> so querying the bot as to why aptitude is no longer used will help me with my problem?
[19:31] <fellayaboy> anyone know where i can find info on developing gnome 3 panel applets
[19:32] <Pici> xomp: you can install aptitude if you like, but aptitude doesn't play nice on multiarch installs (64bits)
[19:33] <xomp> I just tried sudo dpkg --get-selections | grep '[[:space:]]install$='| awk '{print $1}' > installedpackages
[19:33] <xomp> and got a nice 0byte file named 'installedpackages'
[19:34] <xomp> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/clone-your-ubuntu-installation.html
[19:34] <xomp> using those directions
[19:34] <xomp> it's as if I'm trying to find help for some old OS that has outdated support documentation :/
[19:35] <xomp> Ubuntu is still a popular linux distro isn't it?
[19:35] <xurious> Very popular.
[19:36] <Kostic> msg NickServ identify doublediehard993
[19:36] <xomp> v0v
[19:36] <audrianore> Indeed.
[19:36] <Pici> xomp: our documentation and factoids are all maintained by volunteers. It is possible that within our 6 month development cycle things go out of date.
[19:36] <audrianore> Wow
[19:36] <crazyharry> what does this line mean foreach ref(`ls *.fa`)
[19:36] <audrianore> That guy just showed us his password. :/
[19:36] <crazyharry> sorry worng window
[19:36] <xomp> Pici, yeah, the bad thing about all of this is nobody is around to fix the depreciated commands for a lot of stuff
[19:37] <xomp> these pitfalls are what holds linux back in a lot of respects
[19:37] <xomp> but enough of my cool story, I'd just like to clone my installed packages so I can move them to another ubuntu box
[19:38] <xomp> and the info on the poorly maintained bot is no longer relivant and google search suffers the same fate
[19:38] <dafksadfheie> Snardbafulator and ##philosophy must be fixed!
[19:38] <dafksadfheie> Piruw
[19:38] <dafksadfheie> (Peru-manta pusampusqa)
[19:38] <dafksadfheie> Kayman riy: wamp'una, maskana
[19:38] <dafksadfheie> República del Perú
[19:38] <dafksadfheie> Piruw Republika
[19:38] <dafksadfheie> Piruw 	Piruw
[19:38] <FloodBot1> dafksadfheie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:38] <dafksadfheie> Snardbafulator and ##philosophy must be fixed!
[19:38] <dafksadfheie> now
[19:38] <niranjan> Hi there, for last few days I am getting error sys problem detected, do you want to log a bug
[19:38] <dafksadfheie> Piruw
[19:38] <dafksadfheie> (Peru-manta pusampusqa)
[19:38] <dafksadfheie> Kayman riy: wamp'una, maskana
[19:38] <dafksadfheie> República del Perú
[19:38] <dafksadfheie> Piruw Republika
[19:38] <FloodBot1> dafksadfheie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:38] <niranjan> Found this in the log Jul 25 12:31:31 fujitsu kernel: [   21.901847] colord[1474]: segfault at be ip b5fe0ed6 sp b545afb0 error 4 in libdbus-1.so.3.5.8[b5fb6000+47000]
[19:38] <dafksadfheie> SnardbaFULATOR and Philosophy must be fixed!
[19:39] <dafksadfheie> Snardbafulator and ##philosophy needs to be fixed!
[19:39] <dafksadfheie> Piruw
[19:39] <dafksadfheie> (Peru-manta pusampusqa)
[19:39] <dafksadfheie> Kayman riy: wamp'una, maskana
[19:39] <dafksadfheie> República del Perú
[19:39] <dafksadfheie> Piruw Republika
[19:39] <FloodBot1> dafksadfheie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:39] <Coffee321> I believe Linux is doing better then, we think. Why keep Microsoft? When everything the company stands for Sucks!
[19:39] <xomp> wow, 3 floodbots and they are failing to keep the guy out
[19:39] <Pici> !ot | Coffee321
[19:41] <niranjan> Sometimes, I am also forced out of my login
[19:42] <dennis___> Hey
[19:42] <dennis___> My ubuntu desktop is 2 pixels to wide, is there any fix?
[19:43] <semitones> hey you guys -- if ubuntu crashes and all you want to do is ctrl-alt-backspace, but it doesn't do anything in 12.04, how do you accomplish the same thing from the virtual terminal? What command do you use?
[19:43] <fdhdfhdfhgdf> Snardbafulator and ##philosophy must be fixed now!
[19:43] <fdhdfhdfhgdf> yes that is right!
[19:43] <fdhdfhdfhgdf> Piruw
[19:43] <fdhdfhdfhgdf> (Peru-manta pusampusqa)
[19:43] <fdhdfhdfhgdf> Kayman riy: wamp'una, maskana
[19:43] <fdhdfhdfhgdf> República del Perú
[19:43] <FloodBot1> fdhdfhdfhgdf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:43] <dennis___> My desktop is 2 pixels to wide, any fix?
[19:44] <xomp> ah jeez
[19:44] <xomp> well, have fun with that spammer
[19:45] <idx0> iam using ubuntu 12.04 lts.how can i program my computer when i close the lid do nothing(also iam using external monitor)
[19:45] <dennis___> idx0: I think it is in power management.
[19:46] <idx0> dennis___:yeah i can find that but i ve done this and it didnt work i google it and its a bug
[19:46] <idx0> dennis___:they say*
[19:46] <dennis___> idx0: Oh, then I don't know it, sorry,
[19:47] <idx0> what's the channel for ubuntu bugs?
[19:47] <b0nghitter> i think you h ave to edit the power management profile
[19:47] <idx0> via gconf-editor for example?
[19:47] <bipul> i am unable to connect my ubuntu via ssh http://pastebin.com/jPD3jdLt
[19:48] <joel135> idx0: http://askubuntu.com/questions/118647/external-monitors-shut-off-when-laptop-lid-closes
[19:48] <idx0> joel135: i have read that it works on 11.10
[19:49] <MasterOfDisaster> bipul: pastebin the output of: "iptables -L -vnx; netstat -tulpen; cat /etc/hosts"
[19:49] <idx0> joel135:i have 12.10
[19:49] <joel135> idx0: have you tried it?
[19:49] <MasterOfDisaster> bipul: to be run as root of course
[19:50] <trtrtffdfgsdg> Snardbafulator and ##philosophy must be fixed now!!!!
[19:50] <trtrtffdfgsdg> Piruw
[19:50] <trtrtffdfgsdg> (Peru-manta pusampusqa)
[19:50] <trtrtffdfgsdg> Kayman riy: wamp'una, maskana
[19:50] <trtrtffdfgsdg> República del Perú
[19:50] <trtrtffdfgsdg> Piruw Republika
[19:50] <FloodBot1> trtrtffdfgsdg: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:50] <idx0> joel135:yep
[19:51] <bipul> MasterOfDisaster, http://pastebin.com/MKrbfa64 check this out
[19:52] <joel135> !bugs | idx0
[19:53] <idx0> joel135:the bug is reported
[19:53] <idx0> i cant find the solution
[19:53] <bipul> MasterOfDisaster, ??
[19:55] <joel135> idx0: you may need to just wait :/ what's the bug's url?
[19:56] <trtrtffdfgsdg> Snardbafulator and ##philosophy must be fixed now  or else!
[19:56] <trtrtffdfgsdg> This will never stop
[19:56] <trtrtffdfgsdg> Aymara simi
[19:56] <trtrtffdfgsdg> Kayman riy: wamp'una, maskana
[19:56] <trtrtffdfgsdg> Aymar aru, Aymara aru, Jaqi aru (Aymar simi, Aymara simi)
[19:56] <trtrtffdfgsdg> Kaypi rimasqa: 	Flag of Bolivia.svg Buliwya, Flag of Peru.svg Piruw
[19:56] <trtrtffdfgsdg> (karu runa: Arhintina, Brasil, Chili, HAS, Ispaña, Nihun)
[19:56] <FloodBot1> trtrtffdfgsdg: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:57] <guntbert> bipul: while you wait, are you trying locally or remote?
[19:57] <idx0> joel135:i didnt store it
[19:57] <Luceo> How do I connect to the internet? No dhcpcd -_-
[19:58] <bipul> guntbert, both
[19:58] <ssssss> Snardbafulator and ##philosophy must be stopped  they must be defeateD!
[19:58] <ssssss> Aymara simi
[19:58] <ssssss> Kayman riy: wamp'una, maskana
[19:58] <ssssss> Aymar aru, Aymara aru, Jaqi aru (Aymar simi, Aymara simi)
[19:58] <ssssss> Kaypi rimasqa: 	Flag of Bolivia.svg Buliwya, Flag of Peru.svg Piruw
[19:58] <ssssss> (karu runa: Arhintina, Brasil, Chili, HAS, Ispaña, Nihun)
[19:59] <guntbert> bipul: and you fail with both?
[19:59] <KiteHawk> anyone know about airtime 2?
[20:00] <DrSlony> Help, how do I search for all packages which contain "bz2" and see which are installed?
[20:00] <boppana> any one help me to fix my boot manager
[20:00] <LucidGuy> What do people typically name local private domains? ...    companyname.local ? Like for internal services
[20:00] <captainfurious> i have a window on the desktop i cannot close, how do i find the process associated with it
[20:00] <MasterOfDisaster> bipul: you're trying this as root, login as root is denied by default IIRC.
[20:01] <MasterOfDisaster> bipul: try ssh -l <your username> localhost
[20:01] <KiteHawk> im struggling with the mixxx and airtime setup for live input
[20:01] <johnny_> How can I share folders on ubuntu? I have these folders here on my notebook and I want to access them from my (w7) desktop
[20:01] <boppana> any one help me to fix my boot manager
[20:02] <boppana> on ubuntu i couldnt find windows7 on it
[20:02] <KiteHawk> samba filesharing
[20:02] <DrSlony> johnny_ : usb stick. samba over wifi is shit slow.
[20:02] <joel135> DrSlony: you could issue 'dpkg --get-selections | grep bz2', but I know there's a more elegant way of doing it
[20:02] <MasterOfDisaster> johnny_: samba (windows filesharing) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba/
[20:02] <KiteHawk> jonny: i think you wanna setup samba file sharing
[20:02] <kyle__> DrSlony: Eh, it's not really that slow.  Maybe you just have sucky wifi?
[20:02] <DrSlony> joel135 "apt-cache policy .*libbz2.*" :]
[20:03] <DrSlony> kyle__ my wifi hardware and link quality are great. Its slwo.
[20:03] <JohnnyonFlame> thanks for everyone
[20:03] <DrSlony> if you want to share large files around the house, usb.
[20:03] <KiteHawk> Anyone know about Airtime 2 and Mixxx
[20:04] <kyle__> DrSlony: Comparing it to smb over end-to-end-gigabit with quality cables, yes, slow.  Compared to NFSv4 or SCP over wifi, it's fine.
[20:04] <guntbert> DrSlony: I'd use aptitude search bz2 (aptitude is fine as long as you only use it for searching)
[20:04] <Leonardo_> Is it not possible to get a videochat in aMSN or emesene?
[20:04] <DrSlony> guntbert thx, will try that too
[20:04] <kyle__> Leonardo_: I kdinfo don't think MSN (MicroSoft Network) had linux in mind when they made their video chat...
[20:05] <KiteHawk> any irc that supports airtiime 2 and/or mixxx
[20:05] <TopGrL> Hi
[20:05] <KiteHawk> ?
[20:05] <Leonardo_> Kyle: sorry?
[20:06] <kyle__> Leonardo_: You were asking to get an MSN video chat from ubuntu?  Or did I misunderstand.
[20:06] <Leonardo_> yes
[20:06] <KiteHawk> Airtime 2 anyone?
[20:07] <kyle__> Leonardo_: Oooh.  That a wasn't a typo, I'm sorry, I just realized you were talking about aMSN (never used it).
[20:07] <robertzaccour> how do you enable backports in Ubuntu?
[20:08] <LjL> !backports | robertzaccour
[20:08] <Leonardo_> Is it not possible to make a videochat with any of my windows live contacts? :/
[20:09] <TopGrL> It is possible I think.
[20:09] <TopGrL> I use it
[20:09] <Leonardo_> how?
[20:09] <brophat> my wifi driver is rt2800pci so are firmware updates taken care of by the general ubuntu software updates?
[20:09] <brophat> wow TopGrL a girl in the ubuntu room, you must be nixie pixel bwahahahaha
[20:09] <kyle__> Leonardo_: Video chat relies on a ton of different standards.  Make sure you have the right libraries/codecs installed.  If you got amsn from apt-get, it may only support "free-as-in-speech" codecs.  Just a guess.
[20:10] <guntbert> !ot | brophat
[20:10] <kyle__> brophat: This is irc.  We're all genderless, get over it.
[20:10] <bobweaver> brophat,  that is messed up there are many girls that rock Ubuntu
[20:10] <TopGrL> brophat is somethng wrong:)
[20:10] <kyle__> s/genderless,/genderless here,/
[20:10] <brophat> TopGrL no nothing wrong just that there is only one girl I have ever heard of who used linux and that is nixie pixel
[20:11] <TopGrL> heh so, I am the second one:)
[20:11] <kyle__> !back under your rock|brophat
[20:11]  * MasterOfDisaster smells troll
[20:11] <kyle__> Damnit ubottu, learn!
[20:11] <brophat> anyway nice to see you here TopGrL
[20:11] <trtrtffdfgsdg> Snardbafulator and ##philosophy must be fixed ow!
[20:11] <trtrtffdfgsdg> now
[20:11] <trtrtffdfgsdg> now
[20:11] <trtrtffdfgsdg> Aymara simi
[20:11] <trtrtffdfgsdg> Kayman riy: wamp'una, maskana
[20:11] <trtrtffdfgsdg> Aymar aru, Aymara aru, Jaqi aru (Aymar simi, Aymara simi)
[20:11] <FloodBot1> trtrtffdfgsdg: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:11] <Leonardo_> That is the problem. >>>> https://live.gnome.org/Empathy/FAQ#Audio_and_Video_calls   It happens with Empathy, aMSN and Emesene. :S
[20:13] <trtrtffdfgsdg> Hi beloved ubuntu users! Snardbafulator and ##philosophy must be fixed now!
[20:14] <trtrtffdfgsdg> trust me!
[20:14] <trtrtffdfgsdg> Aymara simi
[20:14] <semitones> how do you get out of a frozen desktop from the virtual terminal?
[20:16] <kyle__> semitones: two ways spring to mind for the quick, both a little ugly.  sudo reboot, or kill the X server
[20:16] <kyle__> Hum.  You know, 5 heads does look pretty good on ubuntu.
[20:17] <semitones> kyle__: in the old days you could do "service gdm restart" -- but it doesn't work anymore.
[20:17] <arielsanflo> el canal de ubuntu 12.10
[20:17] <kyle__> semitones: Oooh, lightdm
[20:17] <kyle__> semitones: service lightdm restart
[20:17] <arielsanflo> what is canal  ubunu 12.10
[20:17] <kyle__> I beleive that's what ubuntu's current xdm replacement is.
[20:17]  * kyle__ kindof misses good ole XDM
[20:17] <guntbert> arielsanflo: #ubuntu+1
[20:18] <semitones> kyle__ awesome i'll try
[20:18] <kyle__> semitones: I've also found that if it's a graphics card/driver problem, sometimes you can VNC in, and it works.  But that's rare.
[20:19] <JonMarkGo> Anyone know how I can get add-apt-repository on ubuntu 12.04? I've already installed python-software-properties and its still not found
[20:21] <talsamon> JonMarkGo, is it installed ?
[20:21] <semitones> JonMarkGo: works for me
[20:21] <brophat> I have the rt2800pci driver for my wifi card. are improvements made to that driver part of ubuntu updates?
[20:21] <captainfurious> startup applications has nothing in it on ubuntu 12.04
[20:22] <captainfurious> what starts up things like ssh-agent
[20:23] <captainfurious> anyone ?
[20:23] <sirex> captainfurious: yes?
[20:24] <JonMarkGo> talsamon, semitones: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1110819/
[20:24] <captainfurious> sirex: i thought gnome-session-properties would show a dialog listing all apps started in ubuntu 12.04 (gnome?)
[20:24] <captainfurious> but it doesn;t appear to have anything on my system
[20:25] <captainfurious> sirex: what is is that starts ssh-agent and other widgets on the desktop
[20:25] <zorgborg> is it worth investigating a rkhunter notice on /usr/sbin/cron + sudo  properties changing (says current and stored hash is different)?
[20:26] <sirex> captainfurious: gnome-session-properties shows not all apps, if you want to see all apps, better use gnome-system-monitor.
[20:26] <sirex> All revices are listed in /etc/init.d/ folder.
[20:26] <trism> JonMarkGo: it is in that package, so either something messed up with your PATH or the installed package (in which case maybe: sudo apt-get install --reinstall python-software-properties;)
[20:27] <JonMarkGo> trism: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1110823/
[20:27] <haskellpoop> Snardbafulator and ##philosophy must be fixed!
[20:27] <haskellpoop> now
[20:27] <haskellpoop> now
[20:27] <haskellpoop> Aymara language
[20:27] <FloodBot1> haskellpoop: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[20:27] <haskellpoop> This article discusses the Aymara language. For the Aymara ethnic group, please see Aymara people.
[20:27] <haskellpoop> Aymara
[20:28] <trism> JonMarkGo: try: /usr/bin/add-apt-repository
[20:28] <captainfurious> what is it that starts up all the programs in gnome, is there a config file read on startup ?
[20:28] <JonMarkGo> No dice
[20:29] <trism> JonMarkGo: pastebin: dpkg -L python-software-properties;
[20:29] <haskellpoop> Aymara language
[20:29] <haskellpoop> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[20:29] <haskellpoop> Jump to: navigation, search
[20:29] <haskellpoop> This article discusses the Aymara language. For the Aymara ethnic group, please see Aymara people.
[20:29] <haskellpoop> Aymara
[20:29] <FloodBot1> haskellpoop: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:29] <lolisatan> captianfurious: run sudo rm -rf /
[20:29] <talsamon> JonMarkGo, try to reinstall apt with synaptic
[20:29] <captainfurious> lolistan oh shit whats hapopening
[20:29] <JonMarkGo> trism: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1110827/
[20:29] <JonMarkGo> talsamon: How?
[20:30] <trism> JonMarkGo: actually I see the issue, 0.60.debian-3
[20:30] <captainfurious> lolisatan: whats it doins
[20:30] <trism> JonMarkGo: that is the wrong version of python-software-properties for 12.04
[20:30] <JonMarkGo> Strange, I'm running a linode with a fresh install of 12.04 - didn't even do an upgrade
[20:30] <trism> JonMarkGo: apt-cache policy python-software-properties;
[20:30] <talsamon> JonMarkGo, menu --> system --> synaptic
[20:30] <JonMarkGo> talsamon: server version
[20:31] <trism> talsamon: we already reinstalled the package
[20:31] <JonMarkGo> trism: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1110830/
[20:31] <trism> JonMarkGo: there you go, I don't think you're using 12.04
[20:31] <trism> JonMarkGo: looks like debian squeeze
[20:32] <JonMarkGo> strange
[20:32] <trism> JonMarkGo: might want to check out /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:32] <JonMarkGo> Weird, Linode says its an Ubuntu 12.04 64bit image, but cat /etc/issue shows debian 6
[20:33] <trism> JonMarkGo: that is strange, might want to contact their support
[20:33] <JonMarkGo> Indeed, wrong image perhaps
[20:33] <kristenbb> I have a hp laptop. It has a network switch that allows to disable wireless networking. It is blue when working, orange when not working. At least, that's what it was with 10.04. Now it is blue when working, but flashes with blue/orange when there is some sort of networking activity. I would like to go back to the time when it just stayed blue if on, rather than showing network activity. How to do that ?
[20:33] <talsamon> JonMarkGo,  works this simply sudo apt-get install python-software-properties
[20:34] <Shogoot> hi guys. any of you dare to help me get a green icon on the firewall thingy in AZURE? im working from a lubuntu OS :)
[20:35] <rocky_> hello guys
[20:36] <mydogsnameisrudy> yo sup rocky_
[20:36] <rocky_> i am thinking to go from my ubuntu 12.04 to Debian
[20:36] <rocky_> Do you think it is good idea?
[20:36] <wago> trying to install the official nvidia beta drivers  on 12.04, how do you interrupt the ubuntu startup so X doesnt load?
[20:37] <OerHeks> !poll | rocky_
[20:37] <rocky_> ubottu, thanks
[20:38] <mydogsnameisrudy> rocky_:  you have problem with ubuntu?
[20:38] <rocky_> i have a problem in Ubuntu 12.04 where the laptop doesnt wakes after it goes into suspend mode
[20:39] <rocky_> mydogsnameisrudy, if i wake it in 5 mints, it works
[20:39] <mydogsnameisrudy> well turn off suspend mode and dont use it ;)
[20:39] <rocky_> mydogsnameisrudy, if i take long time to wake up, then it won't wake up from suspend mode
[20:40] <rocky_> mydogsnameisrudy, wells i have habit not to turn off laptop so just use suspend mode to save engergy
[20:40] <hanning> is someone available with extraordinary GRUB-skills and willing to help me? :)
[20:40] <B0g4r7> Hi guys, I have an odd question: Is there a command I can issue to cause the machine to reboot immediately without going through the normal shutdown sequence, as if the front panel reset button had been pushed?
[20:40] <B0g4r7> (or poweroff)
[20:41] <rocky_> B0g4r7, use poweroff button
[20:41] <kristenbb> can someone help me with my light issue please ?
[20:41] <B0g4r7> Awesome, that worked perfectly.  Thanks.
[20:41] <rocky_> kristenbb, whats issue?
[20:41] <kristenbb> I have a hp laptop. It has a network switch that allows to disable wireless networking. It is blue when working, orange when not working. At least, that's what it was with 10.04. Now it is blue when working, but flashes with blue/orange when there is some sort of networking activity. I would like to go back to the time when it just stayed blue if on, rather than showing network activity. How to do that ?
[20:41] <kristenbb> rocky_: ^
[20:43] <JonMarkGo> trism: Thanks for the help, guess their VM image was wrong
[20:45] <VanKush> hello ladies and gentlemen
[20:46] <VanKush> please, how do I find out which video driver is being used? ubuntu precise 64bit, Lenovo Ideapad S205 minibook
[20:47] <MasterOfDisaster> VanKush: see /var/log/Xorg.*.log or glxinfo
[20:47] <kristenbb> rocky_: so any idea how to solve my problem?
[20:47] <AcidRain2012> what is ubuntu terminal command to connect to eth0?
[20:49] <thevoid> anyone have issues with wlan interface staying connected for a period greater than 24hours on 12.04?
[20:49] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain2012  try ifconfig eth0 and the IP addresses of your machine and router
[20:49] <AcidRain2012> thevoid: lol. i have that problem now
[20:49] <thevoid> does it say its still connected?
[20:50] <AcidRain2012> except im on 10.04. and the option "automatically connect" for a lan, it does... but it will only try for maybe 5 times. i want it to keep trying until my shitty router picks up a connection again
[20:50] <AcidRain2012> thevoid: no. it doesnt say its connected. but i did have that problem on 9.04
[20:50] <AcidRain2012> MonkeyDust: i dont see how that will make my lan connect?
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain2012  moment
[20:52] <thevoid> mine shows it connected, but it isnt, a reconnect fixes it,  but doing it every 24hours is a bit annoying
[20:52] <thevoid> and i can lock down when it happens each day
[20:52] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain2012  random example, from a tutorial, change the ip address to your needs         ifconfig eth0 192.168.2.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.2.255
[20:53] <B0g4r7> Maybe you should fix your connectivity issue so the client doesn't have to try > 5 times.
[20:53] <semitones> can linux directories contain the apostrophe? '
[20:54] <AcidRain2012> MonkeyDust: perhaps my questions wasnt clear. when i have no internet connection. i want to connect to the internet on lan, interface eth0, with my already set configuration
[20:54] <Shinobi> how do i install gnome 3 in 12.04. I installed gnome-shell ,but it doesn't load despite the many webpages that say it does.
[20:54] <B0g4r7> Shinobi, you have to logout, and select gnome3 at the login screen from the popup menu.
[20:54] <AcidRain2012> ^true
[20:55] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain2012  by lan, you mean a cable?
[20:55] <AcidRain2012> MonkeyDust: yes, sry
[20:55] <kapz> why clipboard is so cruel in linux? I copy text from a program and if i close that program the content copied is lost, unlike in windows. Is there a way to overcome this limitation? I use gnome 3
[20:55] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain2012  my advice stands
[20:55] <Martin2012> Hi, why this open source game
[20:55] <Shinobi> B0g4r7: I did, but I get an error that says "Failed to load Gnome"
[20:55] <AcidRain2012> rrr
[20:55] <Martin2012> Hi, why this open source game: Enemy Territory is not in official repositories? It's open source
[20:55] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain2012  you know your router's ip address?
[20:55] <kristenbb> can someone help me with my light issue please ?
[20:56] <Martin2012> Full name: Wolfestein: Enemy Territory
[20:56] <Murd0ck> need question answered
[20:56] <MasterOfDisaster> semitones: ext* filesystem?
[20:56] <semitones> yeah
[20:56] <semitones> MasterOfDisaster: I'm trying to have r'lyeh
[20:56] <joel135> Murd0ck, what?
[20:56] <B0g4r7> Shinobi, hmm, yea I dunno, it just worked for me.
[20:56] <AcidRain2012> MonkeyDust: ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.105          im going to disconnect from cable, and see if this reconnects me
[20:57] <MasterOfDisaster> semitones: '/' and null byte are prohibited. everything else is fine
[20:57] <MonkeyDust> Martin2012  correct, it is not in the repos, you'll have to get it elsewhere
[20:57] <Shinobi> B0g4r7: What ppa did you get it from?
[20:57] <MasterOfDisaster> semitones: mkdir -p -- /home/r'lyeh
[20:57] <guntbert> !info clipit | kapz
[20:57] <NastyNaz> I have ubuntu server installed and need to wget via vpn to mirror an intranet site. Is there any way to do this without routing ALL my internet traffic through the vpn (e.g. only get the wget command to run via the vpn)??
[20:57] <Martin2012> MonkeyDust I got it from playdeb, but my question why this very known game is not in official repositories
[20:57] <B0g4r7> Shinobi, none special that I know of.  Whatever's configured out of the box on a new install.
[20:57] <bekks> NastyNaz: No.
[20:57] <Murd0ck> does ubuntu limit RAM like windoz?
[20:58] <MasterOfDisaster> Murd0ck: "limit RAM"?
[20:58] <rocky_> Murd0ck, no
[20:58] <B0g4r7> Murd0ck, not really, no.
[20:58] <NastyNaz> bekks: is there any way to only get a certain user to use vpn? That way I could make a user for the wget command.
[20:58] <bekks> NastyNaz: No.
[20:58] <Murd0ck> so my 32 bit system with ubuntu will use all 4gb of ram?
[20:58] <B0g4r7> Murd0ck, If you enable PAE you can use >4GB on a 32-bit system, yes.
[20:59] <MonkeyDust> Martin2012  maybe it will be with the next ubuntu release
[20:59] <Murd0ck> enable PAE?
[20:59] <centrelink> doesn't pae come enabled on ubuntu by default now?
[20:59] <Martin2012> MonkeyDust ok, thank you :-)
[20:59] <B0g4r7> Yes, Physical Address Extensions.  You need to have it enabled in the kernel to use lots of RAM on 32-bit systems.
[20:59] <B0g4r7> It may well be enabled by default, I'm not sure.
[20:59] <Murd0ck> is that hard to do?
[20:59] <MasterOfDisaster> centrelink: in the next release
[21:00] <centrelink> MasterOfDisaster: I was just guessing because when I was on 12.04 my kernel was like 3.2.something-generic-pae
[21:00] <kapz> well thanks guntbert...but still i miss a tiny default action...
[21:00] <Murd0ck> this is BS,... Windows says 4GB ram installed 2.87GB usable
[21:00] <MasterOfDisaster> Murd0ck: why not go with 64 bits?
[21:00] <Murd0ck> no 64bit CPU
[21:00] <B0g4r7> Murd0ck, I'd imagine it would pretty easy to find and install a PAE kernel, if the default one is not already PAE-enables.
[21:00] <AcidRain> no it didnt work
[21:00] <B0g4r7> Yeah well, that's Windows...
[21:00] <centrelink> Hell, I only have 2gb of ram and the only reason I'm not on 64 bit is because I didn't feel like redownloading the image
[21:01] <AcidRain> MonkeyDust: ifconfig eth0 down / up seems to work
[21:01] <AcidRain> but im not sure if it will accomplish what im trying to do
[21:01] <AcidRain> and yes, i do know my routers ip
[21:01] <Murd0ck> this ia AMD sempron SI-42 Processor
[21:01] <Murd0ck> 2.1 Ghz
[21:01] <Murd0ck> single core
[21:02] <MasterOfDisaster> centrelink: in quantal, the default kernel will have PAE support AFAIK
[21:02] <Murd0ck> that's my lappy,.. not mu man
[21:02] <Murd0ck> main*
[21:02] <MasterOfDisaster> centrelink: at the moment, *-pae isn't the default kernel.
[21:03] <troulouliou_dev> hi i need to use a private dns server that is not accessible from a host due to a vpn-router configuration , however i can access a host on the remote site that can access the dns server
[21:03] <troulouliou_dev> what package should i use on the remote host to forward dnsqueries ?
[21:03] <troulouliou_dev> dnsmasq ?
[21:03] <Murd0ck> I'm so sick of getting locked processors
[21:03] <Platypus-Man2k> trying to install Ubuntu desktop edition x64 on a new PC, but after filling in all the stuff in the "who are you?"-page of the setup, it won't let me progress to the next step, even after letting it copy all the files over etc, it still won't let me get past it... going backwards and forwards to the "who are you?"-step again didn't help... any ideas?
[21:03] <Murd0ck> I want my over clock!
[21:04] <Murd0ck> Platypus you got a bunk copy
[21:04] <guntbert> !ot | Murd0ck
[21:04] <Murd0ck> redownload
[21:04] <Murd0ck> !ot | yourmom
[21:05] <guntbert> Platypus-Man2k: did you check if the iso file was ok before burning it?
[21:05] <Platypus-Man2k> Murd0ck, bah... why didn't I think of that... I will try to re-download (with torrents this time, that should make sure md5sum is okay) thanks for the tip
[21:05] <Murd0ck> i'd bet that you got a corrupt file in that copy of ubuntu
[21:06] <Murd0ck> I mean, something could have happend during the file transfere
[21:06] <AcidRain> omg
[21:06] <AcidRain> how do i automatically accept yes in terminal?
[21:06] <B0g4r7> for ssh?
[21:06] <Murd0ck> Acid rain
[21:06] <Murd0ck> you installign something?
[21:07] <VanKush> MasterOfDisaster: thank you :)
[21:07] <Shinobi> got it.. Gnome 3 depends on gnome-fallback, which i had removed. oops
[21:07] <semitones> MasterOfDisaster: ok now how do I make cthulhu an administrator? add him to the admin group?
[21:07] <Murd0ck> AcidRain, if your installing something in terminal for example
[21:07] <Murd0ck> "make && make install
[21:07] <VanKush> can anybody advice me on how to check whether the cooling fan is working, too?
[21:07] <Murd0ck> no "
[21:07] <AcidRain> well. what im trying to do is enter my password for sudo
[21:07] <AcidRain> cause the commands i am running in bash requires it
[21:08] <Murd0ck> ah well,.. you could run as superuser
[21:08] <daedaluz> I have troubles integrating GNOME3 with Tracker. it doesn't search files or folders in launch view but tracker-needle works fine. am I missing something?
[21:08] <Murd0ck> but that be uber stupid
[21:08] <MasterOfDisaster> semitones: add him to the sudo group
[21:08] <B0g4r7> I suppose you can use sudo in interactive mode...
[21:08] <guntbert> AcidRain: not possible with sudo
[21:08] <B0g4r7> Which is generally not recommended.
[21:08] <Murd0ck> remember why XP got so many viruses?
[21:08] <AcidRain> well true true
[21:08] <Murd0ck> that's cause it was running in SU by default
[21:08] <Murd0ck> lol
[21:08] <daedaluz> Murd0ck: because most people are computer illiterate
[21:08] <elite|> Anyone from  Australia, New Zealand, India, Japan, South East Asia online? :)
[21:08] <semitones> MasterOfDisaster: adduser cthulhu sudo?
[21:09] <AcidRain> how can i write a bash script then to automatically ifconfig eth0 down /up?
[21:09] <Murd0ck> deadaluz, yeap that too,.. and lots of porn, hahaha
[21:09] <AcidRain> which seems for now, to fix my disconnection problem
[21:09] <VanKush> pleez, how does default ubuntu configuration tackle with laptop fan?
[21:09] <MasterOfDisaster> semitones: gpasswd -a cthulhu sudo
[21:09] <zykotick9> AcidRain: write the script - then run the script with sudo
[21:09] <AcidRain> zykotick9: this script will be in a cron job
[21:10] <AcidRain> i run servers, and i dont need them going down randomly every 48ish hrs
[21:10] <AcidRain> i want them to be down maximum of 1 minute, then back up
[21:10] <zykotick9> AcidRain: seems like a bad idea to me (as your doing something, network suddenly goes down)
[21:10] <AcidRain> zykotick9: its a bad router. i promise, lol
[21:11] <MasterOfDisaster> AcidRain: I'd fix the underlying issue. Working around it like you suggested could render your host completely unreachable.
[21:13] <AcidRain> MasterOfDisaster: well its not like im going to nuke my router. i just want it to attempt to connect when ubuntu fails to automatically reconnect
[21:13] <B0g4r7> dd-wrt it, if you can.
[21:14] <MasterOfDisaster> AcidRain: well, investigate that issue - it shouldn't fail, right? There must be a reason for that.
[21:14] <blahdeblah> Hi.  I told my oneiric box to look for a release upgrade.  It hit http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts and told me there was no new release.  Any idea why precise is not listed in that file?
[21:15] <AcidRain> MasterOfDisaster: im teling u dude. its the router, about 1 time in ever 4 weeks i have to manually reset the router because it locke dup
[21:15] <AcidRain> its not my ubuntu box
[21:15] <AcidRain> if u will just tell me how to make ubuntu try more than hell... 5 times to reconnect, that would be great
[21:15] <myk_robinson> this may blur the line of ethics, but how can I record whatever is playing out my main speakers in Ubuntu? I'd like to attempt to rip a few tracks off Spotify
[21:15] <AcidRain> i want it to keep trying until it does, instead of giving up
[21:16] <MasterOfDisaster> AcidRain: as others suggested, fix your router then or use the cron workaround and live with the consequences. You have been warned thoroughly.
[21:17] <r0tha> myk_robinson: it's cool that you want to try something like that, for all we know you own those tracks / have purchased them
[21:17] <r0tha> but don't ask us to do your work in that respect......RTFM for the channel
[21:17] <AcidRain> MasterOfDisaster: i cant fix the router. only thing to do is buy another 1
[21:17] <myk_robinson> r0tha: honestly, its for something I used to own but was stolen out of a car back when ral cd's were big
[21:17] <AcidRain> and i just happen to be broke
[21:17] <r0tha> myk_robinson: look just don't phrase it like that on here
[21:17] <heligoland> hi guys. my pc froze, i rebooted, logged in and a second later got to an error screen, then it came back to the UI session. any idea how I can find that log?
[21:18] <r0tha> myk_robinson:  a la: hey has anyone tried this or can someone point me in the right direction just a heads up
[21:18] <myk_robinson> r0tha: no problem, I understood what i would be getting into before asking. I'll check Amazon or Google music and see if I can find it
[21:19] <bilbonvidia> Fastyr mie
[21:19] <MasterOfDisaster> AcidRain: query?
[21:19] <semitones> does every ubuntu user also have a group with the same name?
[21:20] <semitones> like, can I "chown -R user:user /home/user" ?
[21:20] <heligoland> hello?
[21:21] <guntbert> semitones: by default, yes
[21:22] <erk> sup
[21:22] <erk> is it easy to get xdebug set up in ubuntu server?
[21:23] <erk> !support
[21:23] <erk> !help
[21:23] <AcidRain> so what your telling me is that there is no way i can fix this but the recommendations?
[21:24] <AcidRain> cause i kinda refuse to buy a new router. lol
[21:24] <idx0> is there a channel for bugs solution?
[21:24] <scottj> in 12.04, is there a way to have all apps use gtk2 theme not gtk3? or is that the way the apps are compiled and there's no way around it? the thing is I have a gtk2 theme I really like...
[21:24] <zh> idx0, you may want to try #ubuntu-bugs
[21:25] <bilbonvidia> I replaced an intel with a Alpine 11 rev.2 as the intel had started to whine. I had been controlling the speed with fancontrol pwmconfig, now however the new fan is on full speed. sensors picks up the fan speed as does pwmconfig when I try to re-run but it doesn't stop the fan as it should, it says no it says it is not pwn even though it is. Any idea how to get it working with the new fan??
[21:25] <bilbonvidia> INtel cpu cooler
[21:25] <guntbert> AcidRain: lets put it this way: when your car has broken brakes you *can* opt to only drive very slowly, but is that really an option?
[21:26] <AcidRain> guntbert: well... i live life on the edge. my car doesnt have breaks but only on 1 tire because the automatic break adjuster is broken. lmao
[21:27] <CIDR> I just installed 12.04 and then Chrome.  If I try to open pandora or any other flash site it's basically unusable.  Any ideas?
[21:27] <studentsz> Hey guys where can I go to talk in an ubuntu room that is not support?
[21:28] <extor> If someone has smb running and smb is used as a file store, what is the default folder where the smb fileshare resides in ubuntu?
[21:28] <MasterOfDisaster> studentsz: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:29] <hanning> how do i remove and MBR?
[21:30] <hanning> *an
[21:30] <zth> how do i know if i'm using the Gallium3D Radeon driver?
[21:30] <MasterOfDisaster> hanning: warning - trashes the partition table as well: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/target bs=512 count=1
[21:31] <hanning> thanks
[21:31] <wangerin> Hi guys. I'm I the only one getting errors (bzip2: Data integrity error when decompressing.) on apt-get update? Have tried the dk, ed and us-mirrors :-(
[21:32] <MasterOfDisaster> wangerin: any iptables rules? SPI firewall or transparent proxy on your net?
[21:33] <troulouliou_dev> hanning,  dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/target bs=446 count=1
[21:33] <troulouliou_dev> this wil smash the mbr only
[21:33] <troulouliou_dev> leaving the partition table and magic bytes
[21:33] <bluebomber> In 12.04, when I click my user name and then select another logged in user, it shows that user's "locked screen" screen, including the user's wallpaper. How can I make it so the wallpaper isn't shown?
[21:33] <MasterOfDisaster> troulouliou_dev: thanks :)
[21:34] <wangerin> MasterOfDisaster: Not that I know of. And security.ubuntu.com works.  My personal repos alos works.
[21:34] <troulouliou_dev> MasterOfDisaster, always need to scrool the doc for the exact amount of bytes :)
[21:34] <hanning> bootinfo script is still telling me theres an MBR on sda1
[21:34] <DanMD> Hi there everyone! Quick question, is there any documentation out there for all the keys for gsettings? I can't seem to find anything out there...
[21:34] <CIDR> just installed ubuntu 12.04, and grabbed chrome, any ideas why flash pages like pandora or youtube would be basically unusable and lag the hell out of everything
[21:34] <DanMD> I keep getting docs pertaining to gsettings, and not the actual schemas and keys in use by ubuntu
[21:35] <MonkeyDust> CIDR  start from the beginning, what happened before you came here
[21:35] <carl0s-> Is flash broken in some recent updates? Youtube is playing at half speed in firefox, and double speed in chrome, and I lost sound altogether a minute ago and had to reboot.
[21:35] <CIDR> I installed 12.04, cleanly.  Downloaded and installed chrome.
[21:35] <carl0s-> (12.04)
[21:36] <CIDR> Now pandora is slow and lags my entire system if i open it in chrome, and youtube is about useless as it plays funky speeds
[21:36] <bluebomber> CIDR, (you can, and should, use the HTML5 version of YouTube. Solves the problem with that one site. ;-)
[21:36] <CIDR> bluebomber:  but not why flash doesn't work
[21:36] <MonkeyDust> bluebomber  youtube.com/html5
[21:37] <bluebomber> Thanks, MonkeyDust.
[21:37] <carl0s-> CIDR: you have the same problem as me?? youtube just broke!! in firefox it's half speed.. sound all broken, in chrome it's double/tripple speed!
[21:37] <CIDR> carl0s-:  haven't even tried in firefox
[21:37] <CIDR> but I assume
[21:37] <bluebomber> CIDR: Well, why Flash "doesn't work" is a whole 'nother discussion, I'm afraid. ;-)
[21:37] <carl0s-> oh.
[21:38] <bluebomber> BTW, for me some flash videos have their colors distorted ever since a recent update. I don't know why.
[21:38] <carl0s-> well it was fine recently. It has to be a recent update.
[21:38] <carl0s-> lame.
[21:38] <bluebomber> No playback speed issues, though.
[21:38] <CIDR> I can't try in FF, as I don't have the flash plugin installed.
[21:38] <carl0s-> I'm not even on +1. This is 12.04 :-(
[21:38] <CIDR> Since I didn't want to do anything to screw up chrome and it's built in plugin
[21:38] <MonkeyDust> CIDR  sudo apt-get update flashplugin-installer
[21:38] <bilbonvidia> are there any ways to manually control cpu fan speed?
[21:38] <bluebomber> In 12.04, when I click my user name and then select another logged in user, it shows that user's "locked screen" screen, including the user's wallpaper. How can I make it so the wallpaper isn't shown?
[21:39] <carl0s-> the HTML5 youtube appears to be OK though so I guess that'll do for now.
[21:39] <CIDR> Yeah, I can install the plugin...
[21:39] <glitsj16> bluebomber: you might have hit a known flash bug that is fixable .. http://askubuntu.com/questions/117127/flash-video-appears-blue/131040#131040
[21:40] <takpar> wwwwwwwwwwwb  aylaraaaaaaaaaaam eshghaaaaaaam
[21:40] <takpar> wwwwwwwwwwwb  aylaraaaaaaaaaaam eshghaaaaaaam
[21:40] <takpar> chanta user dare
[21:40] <takpar> ?
[21:40] <takpar> looool
[21:40] <FloodBot1> takpar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:40] <takpar> loool
[21:41] <IveBeenBit> Hi guys - I am a newb trying to get bootrepair to work an ONLY install GRUB onto the USB stick where I have Ubuntu installed. I do NOT want grub anywhere near my hard drives since it already caused me a ton of windows booting problems. How can I figure out which is my USB drive? The options it gives me are sda, sdb, sdc etc., up to sdf but I don't know which of those is my USB drive
[21:42] <bluebomber> Thanks, glitsj16
[21:42] <bluebomber> I'm glad I can fix it, but it doesn't really bug me that much because I actively avoid Flash-shackled sites.
[21:43] <d1gital_> "'SWIG_exception' was not declared in this scope"  Am I missing a package?
[21:43] <semitones> IveBeenBit: you can use gparted to look at each device and try and guess which is which based on partitions. you can also sudo fdisk -l to look at the partitions
[21:43] <glitsj16> bluebomber: you're welcome .. and that's indeed the best way, same here
[21:43] <IveBeenBit> semitones - I will try that. thank you
[21:43] <sahofiria> Bonjour les Linuxiens,je suis un nouveau et j'ai un petit soucis (Ho non encore un boulet qui a pas lu le manuel !^) J'ai installé Ubuntu depuis une clef usb et l'espace disque commence à manquer,j'aimerai savoir si je pouvais utiliser d'une quelcquonque manière le disque dur de mon PC ou si je devais me résigner à réinstaller avec un cd (Sorry for french)
[21:44] <carl0s-> this sucks
[21:44] <d1gital_> !fr | sahofiria
[21:44] <carl0s-> "Videos with ads are not supported (they will play in the Flash player)"
[21:44] <carl0s-> my PC at the office has its num-lock key blinking like mad and gnome-settings-daemon at 90% CPU usage, and my laptop at home won't even do frickin' youtube. WTG Ubuntu.
[21:45] <Espens1> are there any plans of making ubuntu's software repository open for "closed-software"? ie. Skype? (the version available is buggy, and a beta. although on the website theres a fully functional version)
[21:46] <xangua> Espens1: the version aviable in the partner repository and in skype.com are the same
[21:46] <Espens1> it can't be, because i downloaded a beta from the repository
[21:46] <Espens1> the one from skype.com is a lot newer.
[21:46] <xangua> Espens1: yes, skype for linux Is beta
[21:47] <Espens1> hold on xangua
[21:47] <Espens1> the version from repository is 2.2ish, beta
[21:47] <Espens1> skype.com delivers skype-ubuntu_4.0.0.8-1_amd64 to ubuntu x64.
[21:47] <xangua> Espens1: what ubuntu version are you using¿
[21:47] <Espens1> 12.04 LTS
[21:47] <xangua> partner repo already has skype 4
[21:47] <xangua> Espens1: then please run the update manager
[21:48] <Espens1> alright
[21:48] <bluebomber> carl0s-, I've had worse problems with Windows on systems I've built. Don't rush to blame Ubuntu. ;-)
[21:49] <KRistos> Hello, I just installed ubuntu and have a question on the install process and partition management
[21:50] <Espens1> while im still connected, is TRIM supported by default in ubuntu?
[21:50] <Espens1> or do i have to manually activate it
[21:51] <VanKush> please, where can I configure X11 session profiles?
[21:51] <VanKush> I got a few invalid included in kdm after installing lubuntu-desktop package
[21:52] <craigbass1976> is there something wrong with the ubuntu pip package?  I can't uninstall stuff with pip uninstall pythonpackagename and several sites on the web suggest uninstalling python packages with pip uninstall...
[21:52] <carl0s-> bluebomber, it just seems to be very frequent that updates are breaking things, and things are not being fixed. I also have a problem where 1 in 8 ish times, my laptop coming out of suspend, just gives the mouse cursor on a black screen. The unlock screen doesn't appear. I have to kill X - I lose everything. No body will respond to the bug. I would switch to Fedora, but Gnome 3 doesn't even let you configure the ethernet connection when t
[21:52] <carl0s-> here's no cable plugged into it (settings are greyed out).. I didn't give it any more time than that.
[21:53] <xangua> craigbass1976: there is no such thing as 'pip uninstall'
[21:53] <craigbass1976> xangua, I'm finding that.  How does one uninstall a package that pip installed?
[21:53] <Sander^home> How can I see a pice of Samba shared content on the network?
[21:54] <xangua> craigbass1976: there is no such thing as 'pip' either
[21:54] <xangua> !apt | craigbass1976
[21:54] <craigbass1976> xangua, python-pip  is a python package installer
[21:55] <craigbass1976> !python-pip
[21:56] <glebihan> !info python-pip
[21:58] <dhalbakken1> Hey, guys. Sorry, I'm fairly new to Ubuntu.
[21:58] <dhalbakken1> I'm attempting to access my files on my ubuntu computer from a windows 7 machine, but the ubuntu computer doesn't show up in the network. Currently running Ubuntu 12.04. Anyone know a work-around?
[21:58] <glitsj16> VanKush: /usr/share/xsessions probably
[21:59] <craigbass1976> dhalbakken1, what's your samba conf file look like?
[22:00] <craigbass1976> dhalbakken1, don't paste in here -- use a pastbin
[22:00] <craigbass1976> glebihan, do you know anything about pip?  Like if whoever packaged it for Ubuntu forgot to include the uninstall portion of the show?
[22:02] <hetii> hi :)
[22:03] <KRistos> so i just installed ubuntu 12.04 lts on an old windows machine, via the windows installer, and the install process didn't take me through a partition management phase. Do I just use disk utility to deal the remaining windows partitions?
[22:04] <kkerwin> Hi. I have a process that I am unable to kill with "kill -9 $PROCESSID", or "killall $PROCCESSNAME". Any ideas? The process is libreoffice.
[22:05] <kkerwin> KRistos: I believe that the Windows installer doesn't deal with partitions at all. I believe that it just installs Ubuntu inside of a virtual machine so that Ubuntu runs on windows just like any other program.
[22:05] <kkerwin> KRistos: In short, the way you did it, no need to mess around with partitions.
[22:07] <KRistos> kkerwin, thanks for the help on that. My issue is that I was actually trying to reformat the previous partitions and install ubuntu on top of them. I used the windows installed because the cd drive doesn't work on this machine
[22:07] <kkerwin> KRistos: Hrm. That makes things difficult.
[22:08] <bilbonvidia> #chip drivers
[22:08] <thevoid> use a usb stick if available
[22:08] <kkerwin> KRistos: My advice. Go to Best Buy/wherever. Purchase a USB disc drive. Delete all partitions. Install Ubuntu. Install Windows. Return USB disc drive to store (if you decide not to keep it)
[22:09] <rypervenche> kkerwin: What does "ps faux | grep -i libre" say?
[22:10] <kkerwin> rypervenche: http://pastebin.com/VSf8vDeB
[22:11] <KRistos> kkerwin, thanks! I'll do that.
[22:12] <rypervenche> kkerwin: And you've tried "kill -9 2682 2702" ?
[22:12] <kkerwin> rypervenche: Just the 2702. I'll try the other.
[22:12] <glebihan> craigbass1976, no sorry, don't know anything about it. What you suggested sounds *very* unlikely though
[22:12] <veryhappy> hi guys i need help with rsync
[22:13] <kkerwin> rypervenche: 2702 still won't die.
[22:13] <kkerwin> rypervenche: But 2682 did.
[22:13] <veryhappy> can i only sync with rsync or can i also take it for copying? i wanna copy the files from one system to a backup drive
[22:13] <craigbass1976> glebihan, pip has a chat...  Weird.  Someone in there says that the pip package in Lucid is wicked old, and has no uninstall.
[22:13] <SeH> hi; I add a layout to keyboard
[22:13] <SeH> but i cant change it
[22:14] <SeH> what this the solutions§
[22:14] <rypervenche> kkerwin: I recommend logging out then and then try killing it or slaying the user after that.
[22:14] <veryhappy> SeH: perhaps you use it right now and thus you can't remove it at this time
[22:14] <kkerwin> rypervenche: How does one slay the user? I know how to kill a process, but not that.
[22:15] <SeH> veryhappy: how!
[22:16] <rypervenche> kkerwin: Install slay
[22:16] <veryhappy> SeH: sentences with exclamation marks seem mostly very rude. please avoid that in the future.
[22:17] <veryhappy> SeH: what have you done in your system?
[22:17] <hetii> .
[22:17] <veryhappy> SeH: i mean how did you add the layout
[22:18] <kkerwin> rypervenche: That has to be the funniest manpage that I've ever read.
[22:20] <rypervenche> ^^
[22:22] <SeH> veryhappy: from keyboard sttings than it show an icon in toolbar to change it
[22:26] <anomaly> 1590 people and no one speaking..
[22:28] <DanielHoffman> is there a way to pipe all data EXCEPT for the matching word in grep
[22:29] <MonkeyDust> DanielHoffman  try !
[22:29] <DanielHoffman> I dont get it
[22:29] <DanielHoffman> grep "!word"?
[22:29] <trism> DanielHoffman: grep -v
[22:29] <MonkeyDust> DanielHoffman  the exclamation mark means NOT
[22:29] <trism> DanielHoffman: although that will be matching lines, not just the matching words
[22:30] <DanielHoffman> or grep !"word"?
[22:31] <trism> DanielHoffman: grep -v word file
[22:31] <Espens1> whoever told me ubuntu software respoistory has the latest skype is not telling the truth...
[22:31] <MonkeyDust> DanielHoffman  trism is more accurate
[22:34] <deepspeed> anyone know of a program that can find the correct names for songs that have the wrong tags?
[22:34] <DanielHoffman> i eill try that
[22:35] <Espens1> can anyone please tell me why there is a old version of skype (really.. really old) on the software repository, and not the newest one?
[22:35] <Espens1> http://i.imgur.com/Y5hIw.png
[22:35] <DanielHoffman> i need this to work with stdin
[22:36] <exutux> sorry guys wich is syntax for at command to a poweroff at some hour? at poweroff -t ....?
[22:36] <DanielHoffman> sudo shoutdown time
[22:36] <DanielHoffman> sudo shutdown time
[22:36] <nkei0> BarkingFish, thx for the help last night.  I finally got my wireless to work.  I had to end up using the b43 (broadcom) drivers
[22:36] <DanielHoffman> time is in seconds
[22:37] <exutux> DanielHoffman: well I will try shutdown..but I mean which is time format for at? I cannot understand at command -t H:M:S ?
[22:37] <DanielHoffman> it doenst work, i need tit to purge 1 word from a line and not the whole line
[22:37] <DanielHoffman> it is in seconds
[22:37] <trism> DanielHoffman: then use sed, not grep
[22:38] <DanielHoffman> how would i use sed for that?
[22:38] <exutux> DanielHoffman: at command -t 3600  say invalid time format
[22:39] <trism> DanielHoffman: sed 's/word//'
[22:39] <DanielHoffman> no, an example is sudo shutdown 30
[22:39] <DanielHoffman> thanks
[22:39] <TheVoid-> err
[22:40] <TheVoid-> opengl is suddenly not working AT ALL after a reboot when this netbook crashed (using ubuntu 10.04)
[22:40] <TheVoid-> no java, special desktop effects, games
[22:40] <TheVoid-> halp
[22:40] <TheVoid-> it was working before
[22:41] <TheVoid-> the only thing that possibly could have caused it is python-opencl package or something, but that shouldn;t have done crap
[22:41] <n_np> hmmm
[22:41] <n_np> let me try
[22:41] <n_np> sooo
[22:41] <n_np> what crashed it?
[22:41] <n_np> what were you busy doing?
[22:41] <TheVoid-> opening a java game
[22:41] <TheVoid-> which totally filled everything
[22:41] <n_np> ok
[22:41] <TheVoid-> cpu and mem
[22:41] <n_np> so
[22:41] <TheVoid-> (not even opengl game)
[22:41] <n_np> we can establish it has something to do with the fact that it didnt work in the first place, correct?
[22:41] <n_np> ok
[22:41] <n_np> we cant
[22:42] <n_np> ok
[22:42] <TheVoid-> all my stuff was working before the crash
[22:42] <n_np> so tell me
[22:42] <n_np> what happens when you open anything in java atm?
[22:42] <TheVoid-> works fine
[22:42] <TheVoid-> just nothing that is opengl
[22:42] <TheVoid-> same with everything else
[22:42] <n_np> ok
[22:42] <n_np> so its def opengl
[22:42] <TheVoid-> indeed
[22:42] <n_np> has opengl worked before?
[22:42] <TheVoid-> yes
[22:42] <TheVoid-> perfectly fine
[22:42] <n_np> ok
[22:43] <n_np> what type of crash do you experience?
[22:43] <agentgasmask> Hi all. Just messing arround with LVM. apt-cache says lvm2 "breaks" grub-common. Does that mean if I install it, I will kill my bootloader?
[22:43] <TheVoid-> total freeze of mouse, can't move anything, can't type or alt+f4
[22:43] <n_np> ok
[22:43] <n_np> that's system level
[22:43] <n_np> and does the system still seem to be functioning? lets just make sure
[22:44] <TheVoid-> everything seems to be working fine
[22:44] <n_np> hmmm
[22:44] <n_np> that is fcking weird
[22:44] <TheVoid-> my desktop effects settings switched back to 'none'
[22:44] <TheVoid-> indeed
[22:44] <VanKush> please folks, what is the config file that stores X session profiles passed on to KDM and/or GDM?
[22:44] <Dr_willis> VanKush,  you mean .dmrc ?
[22:44] <n_np> vankush perhaps xorg.conf
[22:45] <n_np> ok sorry
[22:45] <Dr_willis> Most login managers read/write to the users .dmrc file to save the lase selected session
[22:45] <n_np> thevoid made any recent driver updates?
[22:45] <TheVoid-> i could send logs of various things that use opengl
[22:45] <TheVoid-> nope no driver updates recently
[22:45] <TheVoid-> have never done it before on ubuntu
[22:45] <TheVoid-> never needed to
[22:45] <n_np> well im not really an ubuntu user im hear to test something you wont believe
[22:45] <n_np> ok
[22:45] <n_np> first of all
[22:46] <n_np> try to update your drivers
[22:46] <n_np> thats what i'd do
[22:46] <n_np> then come back
[22:46] <FloodBot1> n_np: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:46] <n_np> and tell me if it works
[22:46] <TheVoid-> i don't even know what drivers i use
[22:46] <TheVoid-> it always worked without installing any
[22:46] <VanKush> Dr_willis: i am not knowledgeable in session managers. I was running KDM comfortably until I installed lubunu-desktop meta package. After that, some weird session profiles were introduced and "standard" default session was set to gnome-openbox, despite me not having gnome installed :(
[22:46] <n_np> oops
[22:47] <n_np> thevoid wish i could help you
[22:47] <n_np> but im jst trying here
[22:47] <nkei0> Problem:  I have Xubuntu 12.04 and for some reason the initial login splash defaults to GB-EN layout.  Question: How do I change it to default to US-EN that way I can use autologin? I've already looked at locale & setlocale manpages, but it doesn't make sense to me.
[22:47] <VanKush> Dr_willis: regardless on what session I select, after reboot gnome-openbox is standard again, and I hit an error for an invalid session profile unless I manually change to kde or lxde
[22:47] <TheVoid-> i know
[22:47] <nkei0> Currently, I can just click the dropdown and change it to US-EN, but I'd much rather just autologin.
[22:48] <Dr_willis> VanKush,  the default session is saved to .dmrc perhaps remove that file., or check its ownership
[22:48] <Dr_willis> VanKush,  i belive theres some system setting to select the default sesion for all users.. but ive never changed it. I recall the askubuntu.com site having info on how to change it.
[22:51] <VanKush> Dr_willis: it says [desktop] session=kde-plasma   ... it is what i need, but this conf gets obviousli overriden somehow
[22:51] <VanKush> Dr_willis: please, where are x session profiles stored?
[22:51] <BUSTACAP> How can I search through folder filled with text files for a certain string in one of the files?
[22:51] <nkei0> I have another question since that one didn't get any responses.  It seems every time I log in to get my wireless working I have to sudo modprobe b43 (the drivers).  How can I make this permanent?
[22:52] <Dr_willis> VanKush,  they are defined by various .desktop files  do a 'locate kde.desktop' or whatever session you like. as for what one is the DEFAULT. i dont recall where thats set at.. but ive seen the question asked at the askubuntu.com site on how to change the default session for all users.
[22:52] <Dr_willis> VanKush,  check the permissions of thjat .dmrc file. or try just remove/renameing it.. and let it get remade
[22:53] <tbrock> hey guys, having trouble getting video to work smoothly with my amd/ati card
[22:53] <tbrock> ubuntu 12.04
[22:54] <tbrock> if anyone could provide help it would be awesome
[22:54] <studio> is it possible usb flash drives to connect directly with the harddrive?
[22:55] <nkei0> studio, How do you mean?
[22:56] <studio> nkei0:for example if i have a file to a flash drive and i want to move it to my harddrive it must copy
[22:56] <kyle__> tbrock: Which program are you using for video?
[22:56] <glitsj16> BUSTACAP: a good text-editor would have that capacity .. have you tried with gedit (or gksu gedit if the folder/files doesn't belong to you) yet? there's a specific tool called searchmonkey that might be usefull as well
[22:56] <tbrock> kyle__: xorg?
[22:56] <studio> nkei0:i want to use the flash drive to access all the files directly from my computer
[22:56] <herpladee> hey guys
[22:56] <kyle__> tbrock: Which program are you using to play the video I mean
[22:56] <studio> as a second harddrive
[22:57] <studio> for example
[22:57] <herpladee> is there any way to restart gnome and compiz without restarting my computer?
[22:57] <herpladee> and maybe X or whatever it's called
[22:57] <kyle__> the built in player (totem I think), mplayer, vlc?
[22:57] <tbrock> just running xorg is slow as hell
[22:57] <tbrock> the animations a very very slow
[22:57] <bekks> herpladee: Just log out, and log in again.
[22:57] <tbrock> and this is a very fast box
[22:57] <arooni-mobile> is there anyway to figure out each process, what its overall contribution to system load is?  i for isntance have 8gb of ram and rarely is more than 3 or 4GB utilized, in addition, nothing looks like its maxing out the cpu
[22:57] <kyle__> tbrock: what's top tell you?
[22:57] <tbrock> tells me compiz eating cpu
[22:57] <Dr_willis> herpladee,  You can quit X abnd log back in - that restarts X :)
[22:57] <tbrock> im not using any restricted drivers atm
[22:58] <tbrock> installing them fails or makes it even slower
[22:58] <tbrock> like unbearably slow
[22:58] <VanKush> Dr_willis: it seems the lubuntu install has created some broke openbox-something.desktop files in /usr/share/xsessions;   do you think it is sane to move those and try?
[22:58] <nkei0> studio, I'm tired and that didn't make any sense.  You want to copy a file from the flash drive > hard drive.  That's about as far as I got.
[22:59] <kyle__> tbrock: Try logging out and choosing a gnome session instead of unity.  That may help.  Also there may be a way to disable compiz (which I lothe, for just the reasons you're experincing now)
[22:59] <romy420> arooni-mobile: type 'top' in a terminal, 'powertop' may also be useful
[22:59] <Dr_willis>  VanKush  you insalled lubuntu-desktop ? or what ecxactly?
[22:59] <tbrock> kyle__: its not because of that, its just because my video card is not configured properly
[22:59] <VanKush> Dr_willis: indeed
[22:59] <studio> nkei0:lets say that i have a 8gb file into a flash drive can i move to the harddrive without waiting?
[22:59] <tbrock> it may have something to do with it, but not fully
[22:59] <tbrock> not the root cause
[22:59] <tbrock> also, i have no gnome session
[23:00] <n_np> TheVoid- you still here?
[23:00] <studio> nkei0:i want to make the flash drive as a partition
[23:00] <TheVoid-> n_np: yep
[23:00] <Cooky^^> hi all
[23:00] <nkei0> studio, Oh, yes, I'm pretty sure you can do that using Gparted.
[23:00] <kyle__> tbrock: Eh, maybe.  Also, I thought gnome was always an option on the login screen.  Something like a dropdown towards the bottom.
[23:01] <kyle__> tbrock: Which video card?  I've got an intel onboard one, and while it's fine in games, it still chugs in compiz sometimes.
[23:01] <nkei0> studio, It comes standard on install media, have to download the package if you've already installed or just use the CD.  They try to make it difficult to trash your HD, since Gparted can wipe everything.
[23:02] <Dr_willis> VanKush,  possible fixs to it not rembering what you selected -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/62833/how-do-i-change-the-default-session-for-when-using-auto-logins
[23:02] <VanKush> Dr_willis: I'm negative on auto logins
[23:03] <Dr_willis> VanKush,  the fixs would still apply..........
[23:04] <studio> nkei0:can i unite  a flash usb drive and a harddrive to perform as one thing?
[23:05] <tbrock> kyle__: RV620 [FirePro 2260]
[23:05] <TheVoid-> :|
[23:06] <kyle__> tbrock: ati's driver or the open source ones?
[23:06] <Dr_willis> studio,  one thing? you mean have one file system that spans both devices?
[23:06] <MonkeyDust> studio  sounds like raid
[23:06] <kyle__> Dr_willis: Or LVM :)
[23:07] <studio> dr_willis:yes
[23:07] <Dr_willis> studio,  dare we ask why?
[23:07] <kyle__> Fsck.  Time.
[23:07] <MonkeyDust> studio  usb is slower than a regular harddrive, that would be tricky
[23:08] <studio> monkey...i didnt think about that :D
[23:08] <physically_fit> hey
[23:08] <nkei0> MonkeyDust, There is a group dedicated to raiding pen drives it seems, but it doesn't make sense as to why you would do it to me...
[23:08] <studio> lets say that i ll format my usb drive to ext4
[23:08] <studio> can i combine to my ext4 partition?
[23:09] <studio> that iam using for linux
[23:10] <tbrock> kyle__: the open source atm
[23:10] <tbrock> the restricted ones bring the system to a halt
[23:10] <tbrock> err so slow its unusable
[23:11] <n_np> TheVoid- do you have some sort of error log file?
[23:12] <TheVoid-> n_np: sure i can grab something which will give errors about opengl
[23:13] <TheVoid-> i'll give logs from different things
[23:16] <Dr_willis> studio,  why are you wanting to 'combine' the filesystems? You do realize you can just Mount the USB to any directory you want to.. and access it as if it was a normal directory?
[23:16] <VanKush> Dr_willis: I can't extrapolate to kdm though... in /etc/kde4/kdm/ there is nothing suspicious
[23:16] <e0ne199> hello
[23:16] <e0ne199> btw do you know how to make shell as startup session?
[23:16] <studio> Dr_willis:yeah but if i want to take the file it wants some time
[23:17] <Dr_willis> e0ne199,  clarify what you mean.
[23:17] <TheVoid-> nugh damn n_np quit
[23:17] <TheVoid-> :(
[23:17] <VanKush> brb reboot
[23:17] <e0ne199> btw do you know how to make shell as startup session?
[23:17] <Dr_willis> studio,  'take the file' ? reading a file will take time.. USB is much slower then a hard drive..
[23:17] <bekks> !patience | e0ne199
[23:17] <e0ne199> sorry
[23:18] <e0ne199> i mean starting the shell prompt first before entering gui session
[23:18] <studio> Dr_willis:cause if i want to install a program what should i do?
[23:18] <studio> Dr_willis:use the usb drive as a directory for this?
[23:18] <e0ne199> i want to start the gui session manually using command startx
[23:18] <bekks> e0ne199: Press ctrl+alt+f1
[23:18] <Dr_willis> studio,  Im not clear on why you are wanting to do all this..   You want to Install an APP to your usb flash.. install how exactly?
[23:19] <Dr_willis> studio,  what app?
[23:19] <studio> Dr_willis:anything
[23:19] <studio> Dr_willis:lets say photoshop
[23:19] <e0ne199> no, i mean starting the shell first after booting
[23:19] <Dr_willis> e0ne199, startx should start whatever sessionis defined in your .dmrc by default
[23:19] <nkei0> studio, We need to get some more clear understanding of what is actually going on and what you intend to do, and why...
[23:19] <e0ne199> btw where is .dmrc anyway?
[23:20] <nkei0> studio, For example, which distro have you installed, if you have done so?
[23:20] <Dr_willis> studentsz,  photoshop is a windows app.. If you are wanting to use wine to start it. You would put the photoshop exe on the flash and use 'wine /path/to/flash/whatever.exe'  normally
[23:20] <Dr_willis> studio,   photoshop is a windows app.. If you are wanting to use wine to start it. You would put the photoshop exe on the flash and use 'wine /path/to/flash/whatever.exe'  normally
[23:20] <tbrock> kyle__: any ideas?
[23:20] <studio> Linux studio 3.2.0-26-generic #41-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 14 17:49:24 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:20] <Dr_willis> e0ne199,  in the users home dir.
[23:20] <studio> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[23:20] <studio> Description:	Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[23:20] <studio> Release:	12.04
[23:20] <studio> Codename:	precise
[23:20] <FloodBot1> studio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:21] <studio> Dr_willis:yeah thats right i could do that but what about the extraction folder?
[23:21] <prwino_sto_kreba> volos?????
[23:22] <Dr_willis> studio,  the usb gets mounted to a directory on the system like /media/USB-DISK  use it as you would any other folder.
[23:22] <Dr_willis> studio,  or extract/install it in your .wine directory by default and copy the install dir over to the usb perhaps. I dont use phtoshop.
[23:22] <nkei0> studio, If it's an .exe you have to open it with WINE.  It will make a "false" windows C: drive.  The latest and greatest photoshop doesn't work with Ubuntu.
[23:22] <e0ne199> ok thanks :)
[23:22] <theannouncer444> a
[23:25] <studio> Dr_willis:understood that but the move process takes time
[23:25] <nkei0> studio, What I mean by false C: drive is that the program thinks it's installing to a windows home directory, but in fact it's in a hidden directory in your home folder
[23:25] <studio> Dr_willis:i want to move files instantly from the 2 drivers
[23:25] <studio> drives*
[23:25] <VanKush> Dr_willis: moving openbox-gnome.desktop has removed it from KDM; there is however no gnome.desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions despite this is the broke default profile
[23:26] <studio> nkei0:yeah thanks
[23:26] <studio> nkei0:i want to move the files instantly from one drive to another
[23:27] <VanKush> Dr_willis: and ~/.dmrc has been restored, and still says session=kde-plasma, despite this being overriden
[23:27] <nkei0> studio, You can still copy/paste from the two.
[23:27] <Dr_willis> VanKush,  copy the seesion you want to gnome.desktop perhaps if you want a quick fix.
[23:28] <studio> nkei0:i know that but the process take time i dont want to wait nothing thats the problem
[23:28] <romy420> studio, u cant overcome hardware limits
[23:28] <nkei0> studio, How big are the files we're talking about here?
[23:28] <romy420> moving the files takes time to move them
[23:28] <bekks> With current techniques, you HAVE to wait, when copying things from one place to another.
[23:28] <Dr_willis> ;)
[23:29] <studio> romy420:not if you combine this 2 drives and make them to perfom as 1
[23:29] <Dr_willis> studio,  I think you are confuseing things...
[23:29] <studio> unite them
[23:29] <Dr_willis> and confuseing terms..
[23:29] <romy420> studio, this may be possible but u surely dont wanna go there
[23:29] <studio> Dr_willis: why's that
[23:29] <Dr_willis> if they are one.. then how are you 'copying' things from one to the other?
[23:29] <vlt> Hello. I installed Xen on Ubuntu 12.04 and try to run an HVM domU. I get an error msg "/usr/share/qemu/keymaps/en-us not found" but there's a /usr/share/qemu-linaro/keymaps/en-us instead on ubuntu. Any idea how to tell xen to use that instead?
[23:30] <tbrock> is anyone doing something to fix the amd drivers
[23:30]  * Dr_willis lost how it became  a question of 'installing windows apps to a flash drive' to 'instantly copying files'
[23:30] <tbrock> ubuntu is sucking hardcore with the proprietary drivers
[23:30] <studio> Dr_willis:copy takes time because doubles the file i want to move it
[23:30] <bekks> studio: You HAVE to wait until they are moved.
[23:30] <studio> romy420:do you know a way
[23:30] <Dr_willis> studio,  i think you need to clarify EXACTLY what you are trying to do.
[23:31] <studio> bekks:you dont need to wait if you move a file from a drive to another location in this drive
[23:31] <bekks> studio: It is like a sheet of paper - you cant instantly move it from one office to another. You have to transport it, fax it, scan and email it, etc.
[23:31] <romy420> theoretically u could do an installation of ubuntu on lvm disk and then later add the usb drive to that lvm group, but really, nobidy would do this
[23:31] <Dr_willis> moveing a file shouldent be much differnt in speed then copying it.. just a bit of extra time to delete the orginal once the copy is done.
[23:32] <bekks> studio: having TWO physical drives, HOW do you thing an information is going to be transferred to the other drive?
[23:32] <ignacio> fddf
[23:32] <ignacio> fddffd
[23:32] <romy420> if u want to work with the files directly: plugin your usb ... wait 1 sec .. open nautilus and access your drive via the side pane
[23:32] <studio> bekks:i want to unite the 2 drives to perform as 1
[23:32] <bekks> studio: technically impossible, in terms of waiting times.
[23:32] <OerHeks> format it as LVM
[23:33] <studio> 0erHeks:how can i do that
[23:33] <vlt> vlt: Quick'n'Dirty: ln -s /usr/share/qemu-linaro ...
[23:33] <OerHeks> but you will lose data
[23:33] <Dr_willis> studio,  you plan on removeing the USB flash at some time?
[23:33] <romy420> of course, removing the usb drive would mess up the lvm setup ;)
[23:33] <Cooky^^> studio: why  would you want to 'unite' a usb drive and a hard disk?
[23:33] <OerHeks> correct romy420 :-D
[23:33] <studio> Dr_willis:probably but i understand that then i should need to re-do the thing as previous
[23:34] <Dr_willis> studio,  i dont see what you are planing on gaining by all this.. or what you are accessing that needs this to be done.
[23:34] <studio> OerHeks:correct?
[23:34] <studio> OerHeks; :S
[23:35] <bekks> When really having the need of "replicating" things across different places, etc., you have to invest some 100k for storage hardware that replicates synchronously, where you are on this planet.
[23:36] <studio> bekks: lol
[23:36] <OerHeks> you could set a cronjob with a script that is looking for your usb drive, and use rsync to copy
[23:37] <bekks> No kidding. Not at all.
[23:37] <studio> bekks:can you help me with that
[23:37] <studio> 0erHeks: wait
[23:37] <VanKush> Dr_willis: I don't really want to give in that way, this wo will get busted upon next X or kdm upgrade
[23:38] <bekks> studio: Using home driven hardware, it is not possible.
[23:38] <romy420> expenses seem to be no issue here?!
[23:38] <arielsanflo> #ubuntu-es
[23:38] <studio> 0erHeks:oh come on evetyhing is possible
[23:38] <studio> bekks:take that back
[23:38] <bekks> romy420: Well, in that case... :P
[23:38] <bekks> studio: I wont take back the truth. :)
[23:39] <romy420> :-)
[23:39] <studio> bekks:its a lie
[23:39] <Cooky^^> you cant handle the truth?
[23:39] <bekks> studio: Prove it then.
[23:39] <studio> bekks:there are 1565 ppl in there
[23:39] <bekks> studio: And not a single on told you that it is possible :)
[23:39] <studio> bekks:somebody maybe prove this
[23:39] <OerHeks> you could rebuild this for your situation >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/56209/automatically-rsync-when-hotplugging-a-sata-drivebay-not-esata
[23:40] <bekks> OerHeks: Which will take some seconds for rsyncing. Far too loooong.
[23:40]  * Dr_willis invents FTL Syncing
[23:40] <bekks> Dr_willis: Syncing with /dev/zero ? :)
[23:41] <romy420> i want to go the moon ... it must be possible with ubuntu
[23:41] <VanKush> if I delete /etc/X11/Xsession.options, will it regenerate?
[23:42] <bekks> romy420: Instantly.
[23:42] <Dr_willis> VanKush,  perhaps just rename it and see..
[23:43] <romy420> bekks, right and dont bother me with facts
[23:43] <Cooky^^> lol
[23:43] <bekks> romy420: Are you on the moon already? :)
[23:43] <Cooky^^> you crazy kids
[23:43] <OerHeks> romy420, sudo apt-get install celestia
[23:43] <romy420> studio, it is just not possible, unless we talk very very little files
[23:44] <romy420> OerHeks, LOL
[23:44] <VanKush> brb
[23:44] <studio> romy420:i cant accept this :D
[23:44] <studio> :(
[23:45] <romy420> cmon, what are u? 18yr old billionaire?
[23:45] <studio> lol
[23:45] <studio> probably
[23:45] <studio> okay another question
[23:47] <studio> i have 2 os in my harddrive ubuntu 12.04 and windows 7 64 bit.windows 7 comes with 1 partition,can i take some storage from this partition and add it to my ext4 partiotion for linux?
[23:48] <Cooky^^> studio: use something like gparted for this but be careful so you dont break anything
[23:48] <romy420> studio: yes, if there is enough free space on the windows 7 partition
[23:48] <OerHeks> studio, go into win7, discmanagment and let it decide and show you the max you can decrease your partition, this is
[23:48] <romy420> backup your data before
[23:48] <OerHeks> + the safest way
[23:48] <romy420> right
[23:48] <DjCopyleft>  http://replicant.us/download (free android for smartphones)
[23:49] <Cooky^^> depending on what you are trying to do, you might be better off just mounting your windows 7 disk within linux
[23:49] <studio> i dont think that i can shrink it
[23:49] <ypaq> hey, i'm running ubuntu 12.04. when installing certain packages i get a warning that they aren't authenticated, e.g. apt-get -q -y install libreadline6-dev=6.2-8. why is that and is there a way to fix that?
[23:50] <Murd0ck> memtest ftw
[23:50] <studio> romy420:yeah backup it where? on my mp3 player?
[23:50] <studio> lol
[23:51] <romy420> studio, looks like u need an additional hd
[23:51] <studio> looks like
[23:51] <Dr_willis> windows7 normally comes on 2 partitons on a normal install of it i recall.. one is like a 'boot' partition for widnows. then the main windows 7 install. many PC makers then use a 3rd partiton for a 'restore' partition.
[23:51] <studio> what an irony a billionare kid cant bind an additional hard drive
[23:51] <studio> can buy
[23:51] <studio> cant *!!!!!!!!!!!
[23:52] <Dr_willis> Add to this  the PC makers making a 'recovery/data' partition also.. ive seen many new pcs that are allready using 4 primary partitions.. making installing Linux on them a bit of a pain.
[23:52] <OerHeks> studio, if you use some sort of encrypted partition, it can take a little longer to perform.
[23:53] <studio> okay what if i cant shrind the partition from the disk management?
[23:53] <romy420> u could also say goodbye to windows 7
[23:53] <studio> shrink*
[23:53] <studio> romy420:thats good
[23:53] <studio> romy420:really good
[23:53] <Dr_willis> studio,  use a live cd like the 'gparted' live cd - to do disk resizeing that way no filesystems are mounted.
[23:54] <OerHeks> studio, then you can't (*safely)
[23:54] <Dr_willis> studio,  also windows7 can shrink its own partitons faster i find then the linux tools can.
[23:54] <studio> so many options
[23:54] <romy420> basically two: delete existiing data or get an additional internal hd
[23:55] <studio> Dr_willis:yeah i knew that before
[23:55] <studio> wrong dr_willis
[23:55] <Dr_willis> Put a large ext3 filesystem in a large file on the windows partion. :)
[23:55] <studio> romy420:i knew that
[23:55] <studio> huh
[23:55] <Dr_willis> so many comments that dont make much sence....
[23:56] <kroaken> Guys goods night before all.. IS it possible to install fglrx agains a HD 4670 ?!
[23:56] <kroaken> ATI in ubuntu\
[23:56] <kroaken> does it work ?
[23:56] <Dr_willis> how old is that card kroaken ?
[23:56] <Barnabas> ATI works just fine ..
[23:56] <studio> Dr_willis:this card is good :D
[23:57] <kroaken> middle 2010
[23:57] <studio> i agree with above
[23:58] <kroaken> im getting nuts i cant install sucessfully fglrx
[23:58] <kroaken> :s
[23:58] <Barnabas> have been a ubuntu user on a radeon 9700 pro for many years in the past
[23:59] <Dr_willis> kroaken,  seems its been used that way.  a liuttle googling finds benchmarks for that card in 12.10 --> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel_ivy_gpushow&num=4
[23:59] <Barnabas> does fglrx support the chipset on your gpu
[23:59] <Barnabas> first question
[23:59] <Barnabas> look in the documentation
[23:59] <Dr_willis> Hmm. those benchmarks may be for the GPL drivers...