[06:52] <astraljava> knome: email sent
[06:53] <astraljava> Ooh... we're overweight.
[06:53] <Unit193> Just now found out?  And we're down some.
[06:55] <astraljava> I've been away.
[06:55] <astraljava> Down some doesn't help when the tracker links to 24th's image.
[06:55] <astraljava> ...which is 800MB.
[06:56] <astraljava> Is there a difference between a CD iso and a DVD iso? Can the testers be advised to use blank DVDs for that 800MB image?
[06:56] <elfy> crap - have I got the wrong ones ?
[06:57] <astraljava> elfy: Can't really answer that question. What did you use?
[06:57] <elfy> the tracker 
[06:57] <elfy> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/20120724/quantal-desktop-amd64.iso for instance
[06:58] <elfy> 800Mb the 64 bit 
[07:00] <elfy> 813 I mean
[07:00] <elfy> is there any point in me testing these?
[07:05] <astraljava> Oh, yes. That's the correct date according to the tracker.
[07:05] <astraljava> I mentioned 800MB just as a rough guide towards the magnitude we're talking.
[07:07] <elfy> k - cool 
[07:07] <elfy> I'll get them tested today 
[09:21] <ochosi> hey guys
[09:21] <ochosi> and hey gals
[09:22] <mr_pouit> hey you
[09:23] <ochosi> mr_pouit: it's my last day of work before the holidays, yay! :)
[09:23] <mr_pouit> he
[09:23] <ochosi> how's the diss goin?
[09:25] <mr_pouit> i've to write introduction + conclusion + finish the chapter about performances and I'm done (:
[09:26] <ochosi> congrats! that sounds great
[09:26] <ochosi> i'd love to be that far with mine...
[09:26] <mr_pouit> hihi
[09:26] <mr_pouit> you've one more year anyway :P
[09:27] <mr_pouit> (when is the next parole release!!!)
[09:28] <ochosi> lol
[09:28] <ochosi> well for the next parole release, i basically want to properly hide the mouse-cursor
[09:29] <ochosi> other than that, sean has a few issues he's working on (mostly audio-cd troubles)
[09:29] <ochosi> then it's release-time :)
[09:29] <ochosi> can you push it through debian to xubuntu?
[09:30] <ochosi> (i mean now that you're practically done with the diss... ;))
[09:30] <mr_pouit> testing is frozen (maybe it could be uploaded to experimental)
[09:30] <ochosi> and yes, i'm aware of ubuntu's FF date and i also talked about it with sean (it also affects catfish)
[09:30] <mr_pouit> so anyway, it can be uploaded to ubuntu directly
[09:31] <ochosi> yeah
[10:56] <malv> monthly reminder of important unfixed bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1001936
[10:57] <malv> oh wait, i think it may have been fixed =_
[10:57] <malv> =)
[10:57] <malv> https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8949 now we just need the fix downstream
[10:58] <elfy> nice -  that one is a bit freaky the first time you get it :)
[10:59] <malv> could one of the devs please bring the patch downstream? you will save my sanity
[11:00] <knome> mr_pouit, micahg ^ ?
[11:07] <malv> Link to xfwm4 4.10 patch  http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfwm4/commit/?h=xfce-4.10&id=099614e3f045e06db7ab509e174510ea74857adb
[11:28] <bluesabre> knome: I kinda forgot about this.  Still interested in a lightdm screen lock settings tool?
[11:29] <knome> bluesabre, i think... you should talk with olbi 
[11:29] <knome> eh
[11:29] <knome> ochosi, 
[11:29] <knome> anyway
[11:29] <knome> i'm off
[11:29] <knome> see you
[11:36] <olbi> what about me? :)
[11:36] <astraljava> Maybe you'd need to be off, too. I dunno. We never know what he means.
[11:41] <ochosi> olbi: i think he meant me and wrongfully pinged you ;)
[11:41] <olbi> oh, ok :D
[13:56] <micahg> hrm, seems like my changes didn't take at all :(
[13:57] <bluesabre> ochosi: Any idea on whether I still need to make a lightdm lockscreen preferences app?
[13:58] <ochosi> bluesabre: i'm not sure i was ever aware of that project tbh :)
[13:58] <ochosi> bluesabre: but in general i'd say, if we even get a proper lockscreen (without prefs) i'm more than happy
[13:58] <bluesabre> It was mentioned sometime last week
[13:58] <ochosi> right
[13:59] <bluesabre> So are we shooting for getting rid of xscreensaver, or just not using its lockscreen?
[13:59] <ochosi> well up to now the whole lightdm greeter thing was in madnick's hands...
[13:59] <ochosi> yeah, we get rid of xscreensaver and replace it with a lightdm-lockscreen
[13:59] <ochosi> screensavers are _so_ last millenium
[14:00] <bluesabre> I can create a control panel app for it if we get anywhere on that
[14:01] <ochosi> sounds great!
[14:02] <ochosi> still, i think that if madnick doesn't return soon and full of energy, the whole lightdm project should be re-assigned to someone else
[14:02] <ochosi> and if we don't find anyone, we have to continue with the gtk-greeter
[14:07] <micahg> well, why can't we use the same facility Ubuntu is for locking?
[14:08] <ochosi> micahg: gnome-settings-daemon dependency?
[14:09] <ochosi> the unity-greeter has that dependency
[14:09] <ochosi> and that was madnick's assignment, to fork it, patch it out and then ship it as xubuntu-greeter
[14:09] <ochosi> (ideally replace g-s-d with xfsettingsd)
[15:07] <pleia2> micahg: given your comment above, is that re: alts? I see there isn't a new one since the last I downloaded
[15:08] <micahg> yeah
[15:08] <pleia2> ok, I'll do some tests of the desktops today then :)
[15:11] <pleia2> I do hope they make enough progress to get rid of the alts this release (I see kubuntu didn't spin any up for the alpha3 in anticipation of them being dropped)
[15:21] <pleia2> we need some release notes, what changed since a2?
[15:49] <ochosi> bye everyone! ->
[15:51]  * pleia2 hugs ochosi 
[15:51] <pleia2> enjoy!
[15:59] <micahg> hrm, so a3 alternates look like they may not happen, is the desktop image ok?
[15:59] <micahg> err...the xubuntu alternate
[16:00] <pleia2> I'll download desktop now and give it a try
[16:02] <micahg> I'm basically out of ideas on how to fix this
[16:03] <micahg> whenever webkit finishes building, we can copy it over and the libavcodec issue will be fixed, but that will be tomorrow sometime if we wait for all archs
[16:06] <GridCube> cant we ask for a fair time, like 12 hours to do the a3 tests?
[16:07] <GridCube> my internet now sucks but later ill be able to download and do vbox tests :/
[16:07] <micahg> ask for what? the builds are just slwo
[16:07] <GridCube> i mean for more time to do the tests
[16:08] <micahg> I can probably get one last set of images spun, but they're all or nothing (or we can grab a daily and validate it after and call it a3)
[16:09] <micahg> webkit takes 1.15 days on arm* and the armel build restarted 3 hours ago
[16:11] <GridCube> we do tests against that build?
[16:16] <micahg> which build...
[16:19] <GridCube> nothing, im confused now, and im making things worse, dont take me into  consideration please
[16:25] <pleia2> 64-bit desktop seems ok
[20:29] <Unit193> So there was one that said some he knew were interested in testing and having a PPC version, that just fall away?
[20:32] <pleia2> I think just lubuntu is doing ppc
[20:32] <pleia2> if someone could get a team of dedicated PPC testers it would be cool to do one, but we're barely making it with the images we already have :)
[20:32] <Unit193> Yes that's correct, but not really what I was looking for...
[20:35] <pleia2> well, I don't know that we ever had enough volunteers to seriously consider it (let alone let it "fall away")
[20:36] <Unit193> I was waiting for the respin, but looks like there will be no respin...
[20:36] <pleia2> of the alt?
[20:37] <Unit193> Well, generally 32bit ones.
[20:37] <pleia2> I think the desktop ones are all done
[20:39] <Unit193> I'll do a 32 desktop then.
[20:39]  * pleia2 too
[20:40] <Unit193> Could do an alternate as well, but that'd kill my precise > quantal surviver. :(
[20:40] <Unit193> survivor
[20:41] <pleia2> I think the alts are a little broken
[20:45] <Unit193> We'll findout I suppose, thanks.  Maybe-ubiquity is all black though.
[20:45] <pleia2> yeah, I included that in my list-o-bugs
[20:58] <GridCube> so, do i download the current image or i have to wait?
[20:59] <pleia2> we're testing the desktops now
[21:01] <skaet> astraljava, knome - is someone able to look into https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-meta/+bug/1029032 ?
[21:01] <Unit193> Bug #1010487 
[21:01] <skaet> let me know if there's a fix possible, and you want a respin. 
[21:02] <pleia2> skaet: 09:03:33 < micahg> whenever webkit finishes building, we can copy it over and the libavcodec issue will be fixed, but that will be tomorrow sometime if we wait for all archs
[21:02] <pleia2> I think that's what he was talking about
[21:03] <micahg> we might be able to respin in about 5 hours, will need to discuss with infinity
[21:04] <GridCube> so desktop then :) amd64 or i386?
[21:04] <pleia2> GridCube: both! :)
[21:04] <GridCube> :P will try
[21:05] <micahg> I won't have the desktops respun later as they're not affected by the libav issue
[21:05]  * pleia2 nods
[21:05] <skaet> micahg,  should I associate this alternate bug with your webkit respins that are on the pad?  or is there something else in addition going on there?
[21:05] <Unit193> pleia2: You're doing entire?
[21:05] <pleia2> Unit193: I did a live for now, my lunch break is ending and I actually have to get back to my for real work :)
[21:06] <micahg> skaet: yeah, that should solve that meta bug
[21:06] <micahg> err...alternate bug
[21:06] <skaet> micahg,  :)   will do.
[21:06] <Unit193> Makes it easy for me, though I think desktop/alongside install is funky.
[21:07] <micahg> skaet: thanks
[21:15] <pleia2> knome: release notes!
[21:15] <skaet> Unit193, have added a note in the known issues in the technote about the bug.
[21:16] <Unit193> Hmmm? Alright, I suppose.
[21:16] <skaet> Thanks pleia2.  :)   was just about to ask about it. 
[21:16]  * skaet figured there was a nice workaround, so, useful to folks.
[21:17] <skaet> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Alpha3
[21:17] <skaet> Unit193,  feel free to edit/delete if you disagree.
[21:42] <Unit193> pleia2: Yep, it is.
[22:48] <GridCube> o: qa tracker now has a "bugs to look for" part :D How awesome is that?!
[22:49] <pleia2> yeah, I love it :)
[22:50] <GridCube> :D
[22:51] <Unit193> Yeah, removing jockey was a dumb idea. :/
[23:18] <Unit193> Man, had to install jockey-common as -gtk is a package for "Software Sources" and useless....
[23:25] <micahg> there should be an ubuntu-drivers interface or something now
[23:28] <micahg> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-July/035553.html
[23:28] <Unit193> Unless there's another one that I don't know of, it was moved to software sources...
[23:28] <micahg> yeah, is it broke?
[23:30] <Unit193> Well, it didn't install the driver, and progrss sat at what I'd guess to be about 100 than went back to 50 and stalled.
[23:30] <micahg> sounds like a bug to file :)
[23:31] <Unit193> It's not really a better interface for me at all, but did get me to learn how to install them commandline style. :D
[23:31] <micahg> if there are deficiencies in the interface, please file bugs, the idea was to make things easier
[23:32] <Unit193> Unfortunately, best I can say right this second is "It didn't work for me", though I did notice a few other things I may be able to.