[06:52] knome: email sent [06:53] Ooh... we're overweight. [06:53] Just now found out? And we're down some. [06:55] I've been away. [06:55] Down some doesn't help when the tracker links to 24th's image. [06:55] ...which is 800MB. [06:56] Is there a difference between a CD iso and a DVD iso? Can the testers be advised to use blank DVDs for that 800MB image? [06:56] crap - have I got the wrong ones ? [06:57] elfy: Can't really answer that question. What did you use? [06:57] the tracker [06:57] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/20120724/quantal-desktop-amd64.iso for instance [06:58] 800Mb the 64 bit [07:00] 813 I mean [07:00] is there any point in me testing these? [07:05] Oh, yes. That's the correct date according to the tracker. [07:05] I mentioned 800MB just as a rough guide towards the magnitude we're talking. [07:07] k - cool [07:07] I'll get them tested today [09:21] hey guys [09:21] and hey gals [09:22] hey you [09:23] mr_pouit: it's my last day of work before the holidays, yay! :) [09:23] he [09:23] how's the diss goin? [09:25] i've to write introduction + conclusion + finish the chapter about performances and I'm done (: [09:26] congrats! that sounds great [09:26] i'd love to be that far with mine... [09:26] hihi [09:26] you've one more year anyway :P [09:27] (when is the next parole release!!!) [09:28] lol [09:28] well for the next parole release, i basically want to properly hide the mouse-cursor [09:29] other than that, sean has a few issues he's working on (mostly audio-cd troubles) [09:29] then it's release-time :) [09:29] can you push it through debian to xubuntu? [09:30] (i mean now that you're practically done with the diss... ;)) [09:30] testing is frozen (maybe it could be uploaded to experimental) [09:30] and yes, i'm aware of ubuntu's FF date and i also talked about it with sean (it also affects catfish) [09:30] so anyway, it can be uploaded to ubuntu directly [09:31] yeah [10:56] monthly reminder of important unfixed bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1001936 [10:56] Launchpad bug 1001936 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "GTK3 Grab/Move Triggered on Mouse Click" [Undecided,Confirmed] [10:57] oh wait, i think it may have been fixed =_ [10:57] =) [10:57] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8949 now we just need the fix downstream [10:57] bugzilla.xfce.org bug 8949 in General "Window moves around widely if you click a dragable bar, move the window and click somewhere else in the window" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] [10:58] nice - that one is a bit freaky the first time you get it :) [10:59] could one of the devs please bring the patch downstream? you will save my sanity [11:00] mr_pouit, micahg ^ ? [11:07] Link to xfwm4 4.10 patch http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfwm4/commit/?h=xfce-4.10&id=099614e3f045e06db7ab509e174510ea74857adb [11:28] knome: I kinda forgot about this. Still interested in a lightdm screen lock settings tool? [11:29] bluesabre, i think... you should talk with olbi [11:29] eh [11:29] ochosi, [11:29] anyway [11:29] i'm off [11:29] see you [11:36] what about me? :) [11:36] Maybe you'd need to be off, too. I dunno. We never know what he means. [11:41] olbi: i think he meant me and wrongfully pinged you ;) [11:41] oh, ok :D [13:56] hrm, seems like my changes didn't take at all :( [13:57] ochosi: Any idea on whether I still need to make a lightdm lockscreen preferences app? [13:58] bluesabre: i'm not sure i was ever aware of that project tbh :) [13:58] bluesabre: but in general i'd say, if we even get a proper lockscreen (without prefs) i'm more than happy [13:58] It was mentioned sometime last week [13:58] right [13:59] So are we shooting for getting rid of xscreensaver, or just not using its lockscreen? [13:59] well up to now the whole lightdm greeter thing was in madnick's hands... [13:59] yeah, we get rid of xscreensaver and replace it with a lightdm-lockscreen [13:59] screensavers are _so_ last millenium [14:00] I can create a control panel app for it if we get anywhere on that [14:01] sounds great! [14:02] still, i think that if madnick doesn't return soon and full of energy, the whole lightdm project should be re-assigned to someone else [14:02] and if we don't find anyone, we have to continue with the gtk-greeter [14:07] well, why can't we use the same facility Ubuntu is for locking? [14:08] micahg: gnome-settings-daemon dependency? [14:09] the unity-greeter has that dependency [14:09] and that was madnick's assignment, to fork it, patch it out and then ship it as xubuntu-greeter [14:09] (ideally replace g-s-d with xfsettingsd) [15:07] micahg: given your comment above, is that re: alts? I see there isn't a new one since the last I downloaded [15:08] yeah [15:08] ok, I'll do some tests of the desktops today then :) [15:11] I do hope they make enough progress to get rid of the alts this release (I see kubuntu didn't spin any up for the alpha3 in anticipation of them being dropped) [15:21] we need some release notes, what changed since a2? [15:49] bye everyone! -> [15:51] * pleia2 hugs ochosi [15:51] enjoy! [15:59] hrm, so a3 alternates look like they may not happen, is the desktop image ok? [15:59] err...the xubuntu alternate [16:00] I'll download desktop now and give it a try [16:02] I'm basically out of ideas on how to fix this [16:03] whenever webkit finishes building, we can copy it over and the libavcodec issue will be fixed, but that will be tomorrow sometime if we wait for all archs [16:06] cant we ask for a fair time, like 12 hours to do the a3 tests? [16:07] my internet now sucks but later ill be able to download and do vbox tests :/ [16:07] ask for what? the builds are just slwo [16:07] i mean for more time to do the tests [16:08] I can probably get one last set of images spun, but they're all or nothing (or we can grab a daily and validate it after and call it a3) [16:09] webkit takes 1.15 days on arm* and the armel build restarted 3 hours ago [16:11] we do tests against that build? [16:16] which build... [16:19] nothing, im confused now, and im making things worse, dont take me into consideration please [16:25] 64-bit desktop seems ok [20:29] So there was one that said some he knew were interested in testing and having a PPC version, that just fall away? [20:32] I think just lubuntu is doing ppc [20:32] if someone could get a team of dedicated PPC testers it would be cool to do one, but we're barely making it with the images we already have :) [20:32] Yes that's correct, but not really what I was looking for... [20:35] well, I don't know that we ever had enough volunteers to seriously consider it (let alone let it "fall away") [20:36] I was waiting for the respin, but looks like there will be no respin... [20:36] of the alt? [20:37] Well, generally 32bit ones. [20:37] I think the desktop ones are all done [20:39] I'll do a 32 desktop then. [20:39] * pleia2 too [20:40] Could do an alternate as well, but that'd kill my precise > quantal surviver. :( [20:40] survivor [20:41] I think the alts are a little broken [20:45] We'll findout I suppose, thanks. Maybe-ubiquity is all black though. [20:45] yeah, I included that in my list-o-bugs [20:58] so, do i download the current image or i have to wait? [20:59] we're testing the desktops now [21:01] astraljava, knome - is someone able to look into https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-meta/+bug/1029032 ? [21:01] Launchpad bug 1029032 in xubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Quantal) "Xubuntu 64 (Quantal) alternate install failed: libavformat53 unmet dependencies" [Critical,Triaged] [21:01] Bug #1010487 [21:01] Launchpad bug 1010487 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Xubuntu - black windows" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1010487 [21:01] let me know if there's a fix possible, and you want a respin. [21:02] skaet: 09:03:33 < micahg> whenever webkit finishes building, we can copy it over and the libavcodec issue will be fixed, but that will be tomorrow sometime if we wait for all archs [21:02] I think that's what he was talking about [21:03] we might be able to respin in about 5 hours, will need to discuss with infinity [21:04] so desktop then :) amd64 or i386? [21:04] GridCube: both! :) [21:04] :P will try [21:05] I won't have the desktops respun later as they're not affected by the libav issue [21:05] * pleia2 nods [21:05] micahg, should I associate this alternate bug with your webkit respins that are on the pad? or is there something else in addition going on there? [21:05] pleia2: You're doing entire? [21:05] Unit193: I did a live for now, my lunch break is ending and I actually have to get back to my for real work :) [21:06] skaet: yeah, that should solve that meta bug [21:06] err...alternate bug [21:06] micahg, :) will do. [21:06] Makes it easy for me, though I think desktop/alongside install is funky. [21:07] skaet: thanks [21:15] knome: release notes! [21:15] Unit193, have added a note in the known issues in the technote about the bug. [21:16] Hmmm? Alright, I suppose. [21:16] Thanks pleia2. :) was just about to ask about it. [21:16] * skaet figured there was a nice workaround, so, useful to folks. [21:17] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Alpha3 [21:17] Unit193, feel free to edit/delete if you disagree. [21:42] pleia2: Yep, it is. [22:48] o: qa tracker now has a "bugs to look for" part :D How awesome is that?! [22:49] yeah, I love it :) [22:50] :D [22:51] Yeah, removing jockey was a dumb idea. :/ [23:18] Man, had to install jockey-common as -gtk is a package for "Software Sources" and useless.... [23:25] there should be an ubuntu-drivers interface or something now [23:28] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-July/035553.html [23:28] Unless there's another one that I don't know of, it was moved to software sources... [23:28] yeah, is it broke? [23:30] Well, it didn't install the driver, and progrss sat at what I'd guess to be about 100 than went back to 50 and stalled. [23:30] sounds like a bug to file :) [23:31] It's not really a better interface for me at all, but did get me to learn how to install them commandline style. :D [23:31] if there are deficiencies in the interface, please file bugs, the idea was to make things easier [23:32] Unfortunately, best I can say right this second is "It didn't work for me", though I did notice a few other things I may be able to.