| Riddell | hmm littlegirl had to go away for a bit, no updates docs this cycle I guess :( | 09:15 |
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| Riddell | Quintasan: does bug 475530 tell us any more about getting kimpanel to work? | 10:24 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 475530 in kdeplasma-addons (Ubuntu) "KIMPanel is unusable in Kubuntu 9.10" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/475530 | 10:25 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: what is bug 1017490 needed for? | 10:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1017490 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] clucene1" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1017490 | 10:28 |
| yofel_ | Riddell: tomahawk if you want that in the archive | 10:38 |
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| Riddell | ah yes | 10:39 |
| Riddell | 4.9! | 11:39 |
| apachelogger | haha | 11:41 |
| apachelogger | pgst has a regression | 11:42 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: can you reject the SRU? | 11:42 |
| Riddell | let me see | 11:42 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: kicked | 11:42 |
| apachelogger | merci | 11:42 |
| Riddell | I'm going to lunch, if nobody is onto 4.9 when I get back I'll get started | 11:44 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: we are not going to throw everything up using debfx's script? | 11:45 |
| Riddell | that's what I plan to look at | 11:47 |
| apachelogger | k | 11:47 |
| debfx | the script still has an issue that it aborts when building a package fails | 12:10 |
| debfx | which usually happens when a patch doesn't apply | 12:10 |
| debfx | ideally it would upload the package anyway and let it ftbfs | 12:11 |
| debfx | but not sure if that's possible | 12:12 |
| Riddell | does gpg-agent work for people? | 13:49 |
| Riddell | it hasn't worked for me in a while | 13:49 |
| jtechidna | What's the status of lsb wrt qt3 in quantal? | 14:00 |
| Riddell | mm I said I'd post to the ubuntu-devel list so I did | 14:00 |
| jtechidna | Riddell: gpg-agent, is that what makes pinentry pop up for package signing, etc? | 14:01 |
| Riddell | jtechidna: yes | 14:01 |
| jtechidna | it's been on the fritz for me too | 14:01 |
| Riddell | works ok for a new users for me | 14:01 |
| Riddell | infact works ok when I copy my ~/.gnupg over to the new user | 14:03 |
| ScottK | Works on precise. | 14:03 |
| ScottK | Riddell and jtechidna: Since Debian removed Qt3 and we're two years away from an LTS release, I think we should go ahead and remove it too. | 14:04 |
| jtechidna | I agree | 14:04 |
| jtechidna | the sooner the better | 14:05 |
| ScottK | Now is definitely the time. | 14:05 |
| jtechidna | right after LTS is the best time to do it | 14:05 |
| jtechidna | ScottK: btw, have you heard from barry about any further developments | 14:11 |
| jtechidna | +? | 14:11 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: No. He tend to fall of channels and get distracted (he's even older than me), so I'd give him a ping. | 14:11 |
| jtechidna | ok, I'll do so when I get home | 14:12 |
| ScottK | If someone will troll the archive for Qt3 rdepends and file a comprehensive removal bug, I'll do the removal (ping me once the bug is filed). | 14:12 |
| * jtechidna volunteers | 14:14 | |
| Riddell | I've posted to ubuntu-devel | 14:16 |
| Riddell | I recommend waiting until the release team meeting tomorrow to remove it | 14:16 |
| jtechidna | we'd need to merge the appropriate debian lsb changes before doing that, too | 14:17 |
| Riddell | yes | 14:17 |
| jtechidna | bug 960101 made me chuckle | 14:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 960101 in qt-x11-free (Ubuntu) "Please provide multiarch support for Qt3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/960101 | 14:17 |
| Riddell | "Qt3 is a show-stopper for me now." umm why? | 14:18 |
| Riddell | must be one of those repeat shows on a unloved digital channel | 14:19 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I didn't figure to do it today. Need to give someone a chance to volunteer to become upstream. | 14:19 |
| jtechidna | thankfully, it's very unlikely for that to happen | 14:19 |
| Riddell | upstream? upstream moved on years ago | 14:21 |
| debfx | I though that trinity guy is maintaining qt 3 now ;) | 14:21 |
| ScottK | I think he's porting KDE3 to Qt4 now. | 14:21 |
| ScottK | jtechidna: Agreed. That's why I put it the way I did. | 14:21 |
| ScottK | (see my reply to Riddell) | 14:22 |
| debfx | ScottK: I doubt that since porting to Qt 4 requires quite some work. | 14:22 |
| ScottK | I probably remember wrong. | 14:22 |
| jtechidna | last I saw he was trying to make some sort of compatibility layer so that Qt3 code could run against a Qt4 runtime, or something crazy like that | 14:23 |
| jtechidna | TQt or something | 14:23 |
| jtechidna | some of these Qt3 rdepends date back before the -0ubuntu* versioning scheme was put in to use in Ubuntu | 14:28 |
| debfx | which one? | 14:30 |
| jtechidna | several, they also advertise the app as being "for X", lol | 14:30 |
| jtechidna | xxdiff and zsafe, to name some | 14:31 |
| debfx | I think they are just synced from Debian | 14:32 |
| genii-around | How log before A3 hits cdimage.ubuntu.com ? | 14:32 |
| apachelogger | tsdgeos: congrats, ktuberling just became a QA reference app for phonon :S | 14:32 |
| tsdgeos | i rock! | 14:33 |
| Riddell | we always knew it | 14:33 |
| debfx | hm why doesn't reverse-depends find zsafe | 14:33 |
| jtechidna | I find reverse-depends very unreliable | 14:34 |
| jtechidna | I prefer apt-cache rdepends even with its false-positives | 14:35 |
| debfx | I'd rather fix reverse-depends | 14:35 |
| * apachelogger 'd rather apt-cache rdepends fixed | 14:38 | |
| apachelogger | actually rdepends should become rrelates and there should be a proper rdepends | 14:38 |
| BluesKaj | looks like I have java problems with Firefox. Is there anything I should check for besides the plugins ? ...chromium works fine btw | 14:41 |
| debfx | jtechidna: aha, zsafe has already been removed from quantal :) | 14:41 |
| jtechidna | you've found me out, I'm on precise ;) | 14:41 |
| debfx | see, that's the advantage of reverse-depends :P | 14:42 |
| jtechidna | yeah :P | 14:42 |
| debfx | jtechidna: in fact many of the packages you created tasks for have been removed | 14:43 |
| jtechidna | yeah, I'm finding that out now >.> | 14:43 |
| jtechidna | oops | 14:43 |
| Riddell | they've probably been removed from debian with the qt 3 removal and so removed from ubuntu recently | 14:43 |
| debfx | seems like qsstv has been ported to qt 4 | 14:44 |
| debfx | this is the list I got from reverse-depends: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1111993/ | 14:44 |
| jtechidna | I'll take this as an opportunity to close the bugs for removed software | 14:46 |
| Riddell | debfx: when it fails due to a patch needing changed do I really have to start again from the start? | 16:12 |
| Riddell | presumably that'll commit duplicated changelog messages | 16:12 |
| ScottK | presumably it's got a list of packages to do. Can't you just remove the ones that succeeded from the list? | 16:14 |
| ulysses | hello, all kde-telepathy-* package refers to the telepathy-kde package which does not exist, there is kde-telepathy instead | 16:14 |
| debfx | Riddell: you can work around that by inserting a packages = packages[X:] | 16:14 |
| ulysses | (on Kubuntu 12.04) | 16:15 |
| Riddell | ulysses: refers how? | 16:21 |
| ulysses | Riddell: in the long description: „This package is not meant to be used standalone. It is recommended to install the telepathy-kde metapackage instead.” | 16:22 |
| Riddell | ulysses: oh I see, that's fixed in 12.10 and kde-telepathy 0.4 backports | 16:23 |
| ulysses | okay | 16:23 |
| Riddell | and if that's the biggest problem you can find with them we're doing pretty good :) | 16:24 |
| Riddell | I'm out of business cards, anyone want some kubuntu business cards? | 16:26 |
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| Riddell | yofel: hmm your project neon blog isn't on planet ubuntu | 16:41 |
| Riddell | and my most recent once didn't appear there either | 16:41 |
| Riddell | it's a conspiracy! | 16:41 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: yes | 16:42 |
| shadeslayer | digikam was uploaded to proposed | 16:42 |
| Riddell | morning shadeslayer :) | 16:45 |
| shadeslayer | more like evening ;) | 16:45 |
| Riddell | kubotu: newversion plasma-widget-networkmanagement 0.9.0.3 | 16:45 |
| kubotu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1029550 | 16:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1029550 in plasma-widget-networkmanagement (Ubuntu) "Please update plasma-widget-networkmanagement to 0.9.0.3" [Undecided,New] | 16:45 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: did you mark the amd64+mac image as ready? | 16:48 |
| shadeslayer | kind of ready actually, X doesn't start because of some issues | 16:49 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Where did you upload digikam? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=digikam | 16:49 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: someone might have approved it : https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/digikam/4:2.7.0-0ubuntu1 | 16:49 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: I've not touched amd64+mac | 16:50 |
| ScottK | Ah. Excellent. | 16:50 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: I managed to get full EFI boot off a USB, so I did test it :) | 16:50 |
| shadeslayer | I should blog about it | 16:51 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: but jibel seems to have marked it as passed, so I guess X is working for him | 16:51 |
| shadeslayer | maybe he booted it via BIOS emulation | 16:51 |
| shadeslayer | that hides the Intel Graphics | 16:51 |
| shadeslayer | doesn't cause problems with X then ... | 16:52 |
| BluesKaj | I have what appears as java issues with Firefox 15 on kubuntu 12.10 ..looking for bug reports etc , but none seem to fit ...some applets don't load properly | 16:55 |
| Riddell | BluesKaj: firefox -> #ubuntu-desktop | 16:57 |
| BluesKaj | Riddell: I'm on KDE | 16:58 |
| Riddell | BluesKaj: it's not a KDE programme | 16:59 |
| BluesKaj | Riddell: it comes down the install pipe with built in installer ...seems default to me | 17:00 |
| Riddell | nevertheless, it's not something we look after | 17:02 |
| BluesKaj | not asking for anyone to "look after " , I'm asking if anyone has seen the same problem and knows a fix or workaround , that's all | 17:03 |
| rdieter | BluesKaj: perhaps if you'd followed Riddell's advice, you'd be in a venue where you'd have a better chance of getting the answers you want. instead, you'd rather argue? | 17:06 |
| BluesKaj | not a rguing rdieter , just responding | 17:06 |
| rdieter | just sayin, i'd venture if anyone did have anything helpful to give you, they would have by now | 17:06 |
| ScottK | BluesKaj: Take what he said as "you'll have more luck there" and not "go away, not our problem". | 17:07 |
| ScottK | Technically it's really #ubuntu+1 user support material. | 17:07 |
| BluesKaj | ScottK: yeah , I asked there , i got th brush off ...file abug response :) | 17:08 |
| yofel | Riddell: oops, that's because I missed the checkbox for that. So my fault | 17:08 |
| ScottK | I think it's either that or ask in #uubntu-desktop. | 17:08 |
| yofel | Riddell: and we already have plasma nm 0.9.0.3 in quantal - if anything precise should be updated somhow | 17:09 |
| BluesKaj | ScottK: why ubuntu-desktop ., I have kubuntu-desktop...anyway , I'll just use chromium for a while instead ...I won't bother you again about browsers | 17:11 |
| ScottK | BluesKaj: Because they take care of Firefox, not us. | 17:11 |
| yofel | BluesKaj: maybe ask in #ubuntu+1 | 17:11 |
| ScottK | yofel: He did already. | 17:12 |
| BluesKaj | yofel: I did , "go file a bug" | 17:12 |
| yofel | oh, didn't scroll back far enough, sry | 17:12 |
| BluesKaj | yofel: np , I realize this isn't the place ... it was a kind of last resort question | 17:14 |
| ScottK | Did you ask in #ubuntu-desktop? | 17:15 |
| BluesKaj | ScottK: this is the topic at #ubuntu-desktop, If you want to help out, check out http://pad.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-desktop | For support please join #ubuntu". | 17:20 |
| ScottK | Then I'd file the bug. | 17:27 |
| micahg | BluesKaj: I gave you a link to where you can troubleshoot, not just file bug (there are steps there of things to try before filing a bug) | 17:40 |
| sheytan | HELLO! | 20:11 |
| sheytan | Does anyone here knows where lightdm kde stores its themes? | 20:11 |
| sheytan | i'm now trying it. It's still not as on my mockup, but close :D | 20:12 |
| yofel | sheytan: from a quick look at the package it seems to be in /usr/share/kde4/apps/lightdm-kde-greeter/themes/ | 20:14 |
| yofel | best ask agateau for something specific | 20:14 |
| sheytan | yofel thank you! | 20:14 |
| sheytan | i will | 20:14 |
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| sheytan | is plasma QML from top to bottom for 4.9 yet? ;d | 20:22 |
| ScottK | No. | 20:30 |
| ScottK | Pretty sure not. | 20:30 |
| Riddell | sheytan: no there's plenty that isn't QML | 21:16 |
| Riddell | kubuntu.org/news/quantal-alpha-3-out | 21:29 |
| ScottK | \o/ | 21:36 |
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