[09:15] hmm littlegirl had to go away for a bit, no updates docs this cycle I guess :( [10:24] Quintasan: does bug 475530 tell us any more about getting kimpanel to work? [10:25] Launchpad bug 475530 in kdeplasma-addons (Ubuntu) "KIMPanel is unusable in Kubuntu 9.10" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/475530 [10:28] apachelogger: what is bug 1017490 needed for? [10:28] Launchpad bug 1017490 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] clucene1" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1017490 [10:38] Riddell: tomahawk if you want that in the archive === yofel_ is now known as yofel [10:39] ah yes [11:39] 4.9! [11:41] haha [11:42] pgst has a regression [11:42] Riddell: can you reject the SRU? [11:42] let me see [11:42] apachelogger: kicked [11:42] merci [11:44] I'm going to lunch, if nobody is onto 4.9 when I get back I'll get started [11:45] Riddell: we are not going to throw everything up using debfx's script? [11:47] that's what I plan to look at [11:47] k [12:10] the script still has an issue that it aborts when building a package fails [12:10] which usually happens when a patch doesn't apply [12:11] ideally it would upload the package anyway and let it ftbfs [12:12] but not sure if that's possible [13:49] does gpg-agent work for people? [13:49] it hasn't worked for me in a while [14:00] What's the status of lsb wrt qt3 in quantal? [14:00] mm I said I'd post to the ubuntu-devel list so I did [14:01] Riddell: gpg-agent, is that what makes pinentry pop up for package signing, etc? [14:01] jtechidna: yes [14:01] it's been on the fritz for me too [14:01] works ok for a new users for me [14:03] infact works ok when I copy my ~/.gnupg over to the new user [14:03] Works on precise. [14:04] Riddell and jtechidna: Since Debian removed Qt3 and we're two years away from an LTS release, I think we should go ahead and remove it too. [14:04] I agree [14:05] the sooner the better [14:05] Now is definitely the time. [14:05] right after LTS is the best time to do it [14:11] ScottK: btw, have you heard from barry about any further developments [14:11] +? [14:11] JontheEchidna: No. He tend to fall of channels and get distracted (he's even older than me), so I'd give him a ping. [14:12] ok, I'll do so when I get home [14:12] If someone will troll the archive for Qt3 rdepends and file a comprehensive removal bug, I'll do the removal (ping me once the bug is filed). [14:14] * jtechidna volunteers [14:16] I've posted to ubuntu-devel [14:16] I recommend waiting until the release team meeting tomorrow to remove it [14:17] we'd need to merge the appropriate debian lsb changes before doing that, too [14:17] yes [14:17] bug 960101 made me chuckle [14:17] Launchpad bug 960101 in qt-x11-free (Ubuntu) "Please provide multiarch support for Qt3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/960101 [14:18] "Qt3 is a show-stopper for me now." umm why? [14:19] must be one of those repeat shows on a unloved digital channel [14:19] Riddell: I didn't figure to do it today. Need to give someone a chance to volunteer to become upstream. [14:19] thankfully, it's very unlikely for that to happen [14:21] upstream? upstream moved on years ago [14:21] I though that trinity guy is maintaining qt 3 now ;) [14:21] I think he's porting KDE3 to Qt4 now. [14:21] jtechidna: Agreed. That's why I put it the way I did. [14:22] (see my reply to Riddell) [14:22] ScottK: I doubt that since porting to Qt 4 requires quite some work. [14:22] I probably remember wrong. [14:23] last I saw he was trying to make some sort of compatibility layer so that Qt3 code could run against a Qt4 runtime, or something crazy like that [14:23] TQt or something [14:28] some of these Qt3 rdepends date back before the -0ubuntu* versioning scheme was put in to use in Ubuntu [14:30] which one? [14:30] several, they also advertise the app as being "for X", lol [14:31] xxdiff and zsafe, to name some [14:32] I think they are just synced from Debian [14:32] How log before A3 hits cdimage.ubuntu.com ? [14:32] tsdgeos: congrats, ktuberling just became a QA reference app for phonon :S [14:33] i rock! [14:33] we always knew it [14:33] hm why doesn't reverse-depends find zsafe [14:34] I find reverse-depends very unreliable [14:35] I prefer apt-cache rdepends even with its false-positives [14:35] I'd rather fix reverse-depends [14:38] * apachelogger 'd rather apt-cache rdepends fixed [14:38] actually rdepends should become rrelates and there should be a proper rdepends [14:41] looks like I have java problems with Firefox. Is there anything I should check for besides the plugins ? ...chromium works fine btw [14:41] jtechidna: aha, zsafe has already been removed from quantal :) [14:41] you've found me out, I'm on precise ;) [14:42] see, that's the advantage of reverse-depends :P [14:42] yeah :P [14:43] jtechidna: in fact many of the packages you created tasks for have been removed [14:43] yeah, I'm finding that out now >.> [14:43] oops [14:43] they've probably been removed from debian with the qt 3 removal and so removed from ubuntu recently [14:44] seems like qsstv has been ported to qt 4 [14:44] this is the list I got from reverse-depends: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1111993/ [14:46] I'll take this as an opportunity to close the bugs for removed software [16:12] debfx: when it fails due to a patch needing changed do I really have to start again from the start? [16:12] presumably that'll commit duplicated changelog messages [16:14] presumably it's got a list of packages to do. Can't you just remove the ones that succeeded from the list? [16:14] hello, all kde-telepathy-* package refers to the telepathy-kde package which does not exist, there is kde-telepathy instead [16:14] Riddell: you can work around that by inserting a packages = packages[X:] [16:15] (on Kubuntu 12.04) [16:21] ulysses: refers how? [16:22] Riddell: in the long description: „This package is not meant to be used standalone. It is recommended to install the telepathy-kde metapackage instead.” [16:23] ulysses: oh I see, that's fixed in 12.10 and kde-telepathy 0.4 backports [16:23] okay [16:24] and if that's the biggest problem you can find with them we're doing pretty good :) [16:26] I'm out of business cards, anyone want some kubuntu business cards? === skreech__ is now known as Daskreech [16:41] yofel: hmm your project neon blog isn't on planet ubuntu [16:41] and my most recent once didn't appear there either [16:41] it's a conspiracy! [16:42] Riddell: yes [16:42] digikam was uploaded to proposed [16:45] morning shadeslayer :) [16:45] more like evening ;) [16:45] kubotu: newversion plasma-widget-networkmanagement 0.9.0.3 [16:45] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1029550 [16:45] Launchpad bug 1029550 in plasma-widget-networkmanagement (Ubuntu) "Please update plasma-widget-networkmanagement to 0.9.0.3" [Undecided,New] [16:48] Riddell: did you mark the amd64+mac image as ready? [16:49] kind of ready actually, X doesn't start because of some issues [16:49] shadeslayer: Where did you upload digikam? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=digikam [16:49] ScottK: someone might have approved it : https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/digikam/4:2.7.0-0ubuntu1 [16:50] shadeslayer: I've not touched amd64+mac [16:50] Ah. Excellent. [16:50] Riddell: I managed to get full EFI boot off a USB, so I did test it :) [16:51] I should blog about it [16:51] shadeslayer: but jibel seems to have marked it as passed, so I guess X is working for him [16:51] maybe he booted it via BIOS emulation [16:51] that hides the Intel Graphics [16:52] doesn't cause problems with X then ... [16:55] I have what appears as java issues with Firefox 15 on kubuntu 12.10 ..looking for bug reports etc , but none seem to fit ...some applets don't load properly [16:57] BluesKaj: firefox -> #ubuntu-desktop [16:58] Riddell: I'm on KDE [16:59] BluesKaj: it's not a KDE programme [17:00] Riddell: it comes down the install pipe with built in installer ...seems default to me [17:02] nevertheless, it's not something we look after [17:03] not asking for anyone to "look after " , I'm asking if anyone has seen the same problem and knows a fix or workaround , that's all [17:06] BluesKaj: perhaps if you'd followed Riddell's advice, you'd be in a venue where you'd have a better chance of getting the answers you want. instead, you'd rather argue? [17:06] not a rguing rdieter , just responding [17:06] just sayin, i'd venture if anyone did have anything helpful to give you, they would have by now [17:07] BluesKaj: Take what he said as "you'll have more luck there" and not "go away, not our problem". [17:07] Technically it's really #ubuntu+1 user support material. [17:08] ScottK: yeah , I asked there , i got th brush off ...file abug response :) [17:08] Riddell: oops, that's because I missed the checkbox for that. So my fault [17:08] I think it's either that or ask in #uubntu-desktop. [17:09] Riddell: and we already have plasma nm 0.9.0.3 in quantal - if anything precise should be updated somhow [17:11] ScottK: why ubuntu-desktop ., I have kubuntu-desktop...anyway , I'll just use chromium for a while instead ...I won't bother you again about browsers [17:11] BluesKaj: Because they take care of Firefox, not us. [17:11] BluesKaj: maybe ask in #ubuntu+1 [17:12] yofel: He did already. [17:12] yofel: I did , "go file a bug" [17:12] oh, didn't scroll back far enough, sry [17:14] yofel: np , I realize this isn't the place ... it was a kind of last resort question [17:15] Did you ask in #ubuntu-desktop? [17:20] ScottK: this is the topic at #ubuntu-desktop, If you want to help out, check out http://pad.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-desktop | For support please join #ubuntu". [17:27] Then I'd file the bug. [17:40] BluesKaj: I gave you a link to where you can troubleshoot, not just file bug (there are steps there of things to try before filing a bug) [20:11] HELLO! [20:11] Does anyone here knows where lightdm kde stores its themes? [20:12] i'm now trying it. It's still not as on my mockup, but close :D [20:14] sheytan: from a quick look at the package it seems to be in /usr/share/kde4/apps/lightdm-kde-greeter/themes/ [20:14] best ask agateau for something specific [20:14] yofel thank you! [20:14] i will === fenris is now known as Guest85355 [20:22] is plasma QML from top to bottom for 4.9 yet? ;d [20:30] No. [20:30] Pretty sure not. [21:16] sheytan: no there's plenty that isn't QML [21:29] kubuntu.org/news/quantal-alpha-3-out [21:36] \o/