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snowrichardhi00:58
snowrichardjust got a thinkpad T60 used laptop, put kubuntu on it00:58
MrSeikoI'm wondering if someone can offer me some guidance...  I'm fairly new to ubuntu, and I can get my Wifi to work, but it will only work if I have a LAN cable connected during system boot up.01:38
chazor_im trying to get dual boot to work i have both windows seven and ubuntu 12.04 installed but i dont have a boot manager? or atleast its not working can any one tell me what im doing wrong02:01
chazor_any one?02:03
chazor_ive tryed googling it but all ive managed to get was back into ubuntu no grub or windows boot loader02:03
Venomwhats the best fs?02:04
chazor_venom i think every ones asleep lol02:04
Venomfilesystem02:04
Venomoh i see02:04
MrSeikojust the three of us02:05
Venomlol02:05
chazor_sighs02:05
MrSeikoagreed.02:06
MrSeiko:S02:06
chazor_im having issues dual booting eather one of you have any insight?02:06
MrSeikoI used http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/05/17/how-to-dual-boot-ubuntu-12-04-and-windows-7/02:06
chazor_and venom what are you looking for in diferant fs to do02:06
chazor_ive tried that02:07
chazor_my issue is i started with ubuntu02:07
Venomfaster performance with LARGE directorys02:07
c2tarunanyone knows a way to install garamond font on kubuntu?02:07
chazor_now i have ubuntu and windows installed02:07
chazor_but ive only managed to get into ubuntu via live cd reboot02:07
chazor_witch still leaves me without a boot manager02:08
chazor_and i cant get grub working02:08
MrSeikoI'm not sure chazor_02:11
MrSeikoAny time that I had ever dual booted, I always started with the Win install first, then installed ubuntu02:13
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Daskreech!grub03:17
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)03:17
bigskywhy add-apt-repository not works on kubuntu:( it works on ubuntu...03:49
bigskyhttp://iyanwu.com/pastebin/showthread.php?tid=164803:49
harolddongalways works for me03:58
iliashi all. i am running 12.04 after i upgrade 10.04. i want to change my splash screen but although i downloaded some new themes i dont see them install. where are they be installed in my /home?04:39
iliasi want to change login screen not splash.04:41
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iliashi all. any idea on how can i change my computer's name under 12.04. gedit doesn't work. any other way?06:43
azbarceailias: you may use any editor to edit /etc/hostname06:58
azbarceailias: sudo nano /etc/hostname06:58
azbarceailias: sudo kate /etc/hostname06:58
azbarceailias: any of those06:58
azbarceailias: vi /etc/hostname06:58
iliasok. sudo kate /etc/hostname worked. just rename and save?07:00
iliashi. i realised that when i changed my computer's name using "sudo kate /etc/hostname" kmail (although i change default domain name could send the mails and gave the error: "An error occurred during authentication: SASL(0)" how can i fix it without return to my previous name (when i did it everyting was perfect)08:57
iliasany idea?09:04
iliasas far as i can understand kmail reads somewhere the old hostname and cannot accept the new one. when i change to the old everything is ok. where can i find whta kmail reads to switch to the new name?09:05
iliasif someone have any idea i appreciate it!09:15
Dipsydo i know you DjangBlue ? :P09:19
susundbergilias: i do not see how your computer name should have anything to do with sending email to remote server09:20
susundbergilias: you mean sendin email like sending via smtp with google account?09:20
lordievaderGood morning09:36
iliasI dont either  how the computer's name should have anything to do with sending email to remote server, but actually it does. I am sending email using kmail through smtp.live.com if that helps09:49
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iliasis it possible at 12.04 instead of arrow to use cross to indicate the dirs tree?10:21
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iliasis it possible at 12.04 instead of arrow to use cross to indicate the dirs tree?11:17
mydogsnameisrudynot sure what your trying to do ilias11:19
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nag_hi guys, i have a doubt on debugfs command. i want to recover one file , with google i found this command , i tried but not working . Can some one help me out12:05
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nag_can some one help me out12:21
rork!ask | nag_12:33
ubottunag_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience12:33
nag_i already asked the ques12:34
nag_i want to recover one file , with google i found this command , i tried but not working . Can some one help me out12:34
nag_debuugfs12:34
rorkah, I'm sorry, I wasn't there at the time. Unfortunately I don't have any experience in this12:36
nag_rork: oh k12:36
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jtr__hello, can someone help me with the "First_Program" at KDE Techbase?12:54
jtr__it says "kil8n" and "il8n" not declared within scope ( PS : i have included KLocale )12:54
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jdrsAnyone here using Alpine? Alpine always loses connection. Every after 3-5 minutes I open my inbox then the message "Waiting for server reply. Still waitining..." message appears. Then it breaks the connection. It there a way to fix this?14:50
jdrsor a workaround?14:51
BluesKajjdrs: refresh my memory , what's alpine ?14:52
jdrsMail client. Pine.14:52
jdrsNow it's Alpine.14:52
BluesKajsorry jdrs , know nothing about textbased email clients , never used any15:04
jdrsThat's okay. I'm reading the archives now.15:05
phoenix_firebrdhello everyone15:12
OerHeks hi phoenix_firebrd15:13
Stick_hi15:13
phoenix_firebrdOerHeks:  Stick_ hi15:13
phoenix_firebrdStick_: what?15:15
bbeckI installed the telepathy 0.4 preview, and quite like it.  I noticed today that 0.4.1 has been released.  Does anyone know if that will get pushed out?15:48
bbeckIt has an AIM fix that I'm really looking forward to.15:48
decciHi Guys..I need a tool which can backup from Linux to Windows and can be automated/schedules16:25
DarthFrogFrom Linux to Windows?  Ususally it's the other way 'round.16:26
DarthFrogPersonally, I'd mount the Windows partition in Linux and write a script to do the backup.  Use cron to schedule it.16:27
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Daskreechdecci: why would it need to be specific that it's going to windows?16:29
Daskreechdoes the windows section/computer need to interact with the backup?16:29
genii-aroundDaskreech: You can't preserve permissions for example16:30
DarthFroggenii-around: Even in a tarball?16:30
Daskreechgenii-around: Yes but I'm just trying to get what the parameters are16:30
genii-aroundDarthFrog: tarred up, yes...straight file copy, of course not...16:30
DaskreechWhich leads me to wonder if Linux can read ACLs from Windows and Mac16:31
genii-arounddecci: I'd probably use something like freeSSHd on the windows machine, then tar up what you want to copy and scp it over16:33
genii-aroundBleh, they left16:33
BluesKajafraid we have a generation that doesn't know the meaning of patience , growing up in an instant gratification age where everything is a disposable commodity :)16:37
DarthFrogWell, I guess that includes our caring about their issues if they can't be bothered.16:38
BluesKajyup, there's no caring at all, "I need it now ", spoiled and mollycoddled to a sense of entitlement without work ...not all mind you , but quite a lot16:41
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DaskreechBluesKaj: preach16:59
BluesKajthat was my rant ...not preaching , stating my observations of behaviour here17:01
DaskreechBack in my day we rolled our own drivers, uplib! and we liked it17:02
* genii-around sips and reminisces about issuing emerge world in Gentoo on a P1-133 with 128MB ...17:08
poetic_algebradamn kids...  get off my lawn!17:10
poetic_algebrayou and your music17:10
genii-aroundpoetic_algebra: You forgot the cane-waving and frisbee-hoarding ;-)17:11
poetic_algebraoh, right =]17:12
Daskreechapt-get install frisbee libwave on-topic17:15
genii-aroundDaskreech: If it was busy in here I'd point people to -offtopic17:17
poetic_algebraxset meshuttingup activate17:19
* Daskreech hugs genii-around and avoids getting coffee over everything17:19
genii-aroundHeh17:19
Daskreechbtw does anyone have an issue with the keyboard dying in KDE 4.8.90 ?17:19
poetic_algebraI haven't, no17:20
genii-aroundDaskreech: Not here.. but I'm on 12.10 ( still 4.8.90 though )17:20
Daskreechgenii-around: Hmm Last week my keyboard kept dying.17:20
poetic_algebraI'm on 12.0417:20
Daskreech Which reminds me is there a way to reboot the keyboard without killing X ?17:21
BluesKajgenii-around:  are you using FF on 12.10 ...notice and java applet probs ?17:21
BluesKajand=any17:21
genii-aroundBluesKaj: Not that I know of.. but I'm still using the Sun Java17:22
BluesKajalready asked on ubuntu+1 , got the "file a bug" brush off17:22
phoenix_firebrdDaskreech: i have the same problem17:22
phoenix_firebrdDaskreech: not just keyboard but also mouse17:23
BluesKajsun java eh ? ..hmm17:23
Daskreechphoenix_firebrd: Notice any patterns? It seems to go away for me anytime i switch somethign to full screen17:23
genii-aroundBluesKaj: I manually installed Sun/Oracle jre1.7.0_0417:23
DaskreechMy Mouse runs on FB I dont' know if that makes a difference17:23
BluesKajgenii-around:  tarball ?17:23
phoenix_firebrdDaskreech: i think in my case, x hangs or its kwin17:23
Daskreechphoenix_firebrd: can you ssh in?17:23
phoenix_firebrdDaskreech: total freeze17:23
Daskreechif kwin stops painting the mouse should still move since most people have it painted in fb17:24
genii-aroundBluesKaj: Yep, then i put it in usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.0_04   and tinkered with update-alternatives to add it in17:24
DaskreechIf not then it may be a X freeze. If you can't ssh in it's probably a kernel bug17:24
phoenix_firebrdDaskreech: in that case, i think its a x crash or a kernel panic17:24
DaskreechHopefully X17:25
phoenix_firebrdDaskreech: i think there was a bug fixed recently for the kernel , i saw it in the update17:26
phoenix_firebrdDaskreech: are you using lightdm?17:26
Daskreechphoenix_firebrd: :-) There are always bugs fixed in the update :) was it relevant?17:26
DaskreechNo17:26
phoenix_firebrdDaskreech: ya, the changelog contained something like reverting a patch , which caused xserver crashes17:27
Daskreechah ok cool17:27
Daskreechhttp://www.datamation.com/open-source/seven-expectations-of-linux-users-1.html is a great read and should be in the (at least OT) topic >_>17:41
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ceti331hi i'm in ubuntu, i've installed kde,  but have kwin 4.8.4... is it possible to get 4.8.9518:06
poetic_algebrathere's a backports ppa which will allow you to upgrade to 4.8.9018:07
ceti331ok how does that work..18:07
poetic_algebrathe ppa is here:18:09
poetic_algebrahttps://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/beta18:09
poetic_algebrayou can follow the instructions, or apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta, then apt-get update; apt-get upgrade18:09
ceti331thanks18:11
poetic_algebrasure thing18:11
lordievaderGood evening18:25
Daskreechlordievader: Hi18:56
lordievaderHey Daskreech, how are you?18:57
DaskreechBroken. How are you doing?18:58
lordievaderDaskreech: I'm doing just find, trying not to notice the heat,18:58
Daskreechapt-get install gtkpool18:59
lordievaderWhere do I enter that? I have never seen a "god's" terminal floating around...19:00
Daskreechlordievader: It slides down from the sky when invoked19:09
lordievaderDaskreech: And how does one invoke it?19:10
douglkonsole? sudo?19:11
Daskreechlordievader: man file not found19:16
lordievaderDaskreech: lol :P19:16
Daskreech;-)19:16
BadDesignfreaking *nix sound systems... they suck19:28
DaskreechReplace them?19:29
DaskreechOh sound systems19:29
BadDesignnow my sound doens't work "well" on Kubuntu 12.04 I hear modulations and alien voices when I play something19:29
Daskreechgstreamer?19:29
BadDesignPhonon uses gstreamer in Kubuntu ?19:29
DaskreechI think so19:30
BadDesign(by default, I mean)19:30
daniel_____BadDesign: Agreed. Worst thing is Skype screws everything up and you have to use alsamixer to tune mic-boost down. Drives me nuts!19:30
BadDesignFrom what I see that's the case19:30
daniel_____BadDesign: You can change it to use a VLC backend if you want or even Xine.19:31
DaskreechXine is no longer maintained19:31
BadDesignThe updates from the last couple of days broke my sound19:32
daniel_____Daskreech: Yeah true. I have never really had issues with gstreamer though. I "think" VLC will be default soon.19:32
lordievaderVLC seems te have a bit better audio quality, but that might just be me.19:34
BadDesignWhat package has vlc as a backend for phonon?19:35
daniel_____lordievader: Yeah I think so too.19:35
lordievaderBadDesign: I believe it was something like phonon-backend-vlc19:35
daniel_____BadDesign: sudo apt-get install phonon-backend-vlc19:35
BadDesignthat's it thanks :)19:36
goliatHi20:06
goliati have problem with wifi... under kubuntu. I installed linux-firmware-nonfree, and iwlist scanning see networks.... but network manager dont20:07
goliatI was restarting network-manager, and interfaces and computer and still dont work20:07
goliatI have Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN20:08
genii-aroundDis you make some manual change to your /etc/network/interfaces file?20:08
goliatno20:09
daviddoriahow do I install the proprietary nvidia driver in 12.04?20:10
lordievaderdaviddoria: Have you tried the jockey?20:11
BluesKajdaviddoria: from the nvidia website?20:11
lordievaderdaviddoria: Kmenu -> applications -> System -> Additional Drivers20:12
daviddorialordievader, there is nothing in the list there20:13
goliatany ideas?20:13
daviddoriaBluesKaj, I thought there were more "built in" ways to do it these days20:13
genii-around!info nvidia-current20:13
ubottunvidia-current (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers): NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library. In component restricted, is optional. Version 295.40-0ubuntu1 (precise), package size 32650 kB, installed size 96032 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; lpia)20:13
genii-arounddaviddoria: Add restricted repository then lordievader's method20:14
BluesKajdaviddoria:  type jockey into krunner (alt+f2)20:14
daviddoriagenii-around, is that the x-updates repo?20:14
genii-arounddaviddoria: No that is the restricted repository of archive.ubuntu.com20:14
daviddoriaI just installed nvidia-current but there is still nothing in that list - maybe I need to start a new session or something?20:15
BluesKajdaviddoria:  how did you install nvidia-current ?20:16
daviddoriaBluesKaj, using this: http://codepad.org/NfZPjiQH20:17
daviddoriaBluesKaj, yea the instructions here: http://www.techlw.com/2012/03/install-nvidia-drivers-on-ubuntu-1204.html say to restart20:18
daviddoriabrb20:18
BluesKajdaviddoria:  X has to be disabled when installing a graphics driver , it looks like it installs but it's overridden by the  default ,probly the nouveau20:19
BluesKajtoo late .. no matter20:20
daniel_____daviddoria: There is a specific guide for Kubuntu. jockey is notorious for not working - this is a perfect guide http://www.webupd8.org/2010/06/how-to-install-nvidia-25635-display.html20:24
daviddoriaThat worked, once I restarted it showed up in the list20:24
daviddoriabut now when I try to setup my two screens, I get "Failed to set MetaMode (1) 'DFP-0: 1680x1050 @1680x1050 +1680+0, DFP-4: 1680x1050 @1680x1050 +0+0' (Mode 3360x1050, id: 52) on X screen 0."20:25
daniel_____goliat: A good idea is to install WICD with a gui. That usually solves most people's problems. By the way, Intel should just work out of the box, never had an issue before20:28
daniel_____daviddoria: Correction, I meant this website http://dragly.org/2012/05/04/installing-the-nvidia-driver-in-kubuntu-12-04/20:28
daviddoriaAnyone have any idea about this "failed to set MetaMode" error?20:36
daviddoria(sorry, I'm on IRC on a different machine now so I can actually read the responses and restart at the same time :) )20:36
BluesKajdaviddoria:  does the driver show up in additional drivers? ...I have to ask :P20:39
doriad_BluesKaj, yes, and it says that it is in use20:39
BluesKaj daviddoria , ok good20:40
doriad_BluesKaj, so what's with this MetaMode error?20:40
doriad_In the nvidia-settings, I see both monitors, and they are set to the same resolutions they were set to before I installed nvidia-current20:41
BluesKajdaviddoria:  sorry I haven't seen that issue before ...dunno how to handle it20:41
BluesKajdoriad_:  is nvidia-settings installed ?20:43
doriad_BluesKaj, yes, this is where I'm trying to set up the resolutions and this is what is giving me the error20:44
BluesKaj!nvidia-settings20:44
BluesKajit's not a default install witht driver , it gives more options in the gui as well afaik20:45
doriad_BluesKaj, yes, I have it and am using it20:46
BluesKajdoriad_:  and invidia-current-updates as well ?20:47
jessieSo, I am using Kontact, but the main toolbar (file, edit, etc.) has disappeared in the kmail portion. I've tried ctrl+M but it did not bring it back.20:48
doriad_so I disabled the proprietary driver20:54
doriad_and now in KDE's Display settings, I only see 1 monitor20:54
jessieWell, fixed my problem by restoring a backup of my ~/.kde/share/config/kontactrc file.20:55
Daskreechjessie: what did you have in the broken file?20:56
jessieIt's long. Let me post a copy online. One momonte.20:56
jessie*moment20:56
jessieActually, the relevant part is under [MainWindowkontact_kmailplugin]20:57
Daskreech!paste20:57
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.20:57
jessieIt says MenuBar=Disabled.20:58
jessieI tried deleting that line, but it didn't like that, so I restored a copy from earlier. That worked.20:58
jessieAlso, the Height was different20:58
maexhallo21:00
maexhallo21:00
maexsuche hilfe21:01
maexwlan kummer#21:01
jessie!english21:01
ubottuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList21:01
Rid3rhi there21:07
Rid3rI would like to know if it's safe to alow an user to lanche xserver21:07
BluesKajRid3r:  he needs the xserver for gui desktop21:11
Rid3rBluesKaj: who he ?21:11
BluesKajthe user21:12
Rid3rI just want to know if it's safe21:12
BluesKajwhat kind of desktop are you using now, Rid3r?21:14
Rid3ra kdm but anyway I don't want to lanch a desktom manager but a xserver21:16
BluesKajthe xserver will already be running if you are using kdm21:16
Rid3r...21:17
Rid3rI just want to know if it's safe...21:17
DaskreechRid3r: It can be. What is the person's purpose?21:17
Rid3rto run a xserver as user21:17
DaskreechYou can use xnest if you want to contain them21:18
BluesKajit must be , you already have it on :)21:18
DaskreechBluesKaj: I think he means a new Xserver process for that user21:18
DaskreechAnd I suppose they can turn it on and off as they please21:18
Rid3rk I will red about Daskreech21:18
BluesKajDaskreech:  I asked him THAT21:18
BluesKajoops21:18
* BluesKaj shakes his head ...why didn;t he say so , a differnt user as xserver ...gawd21:20
Rid3rcauz I lanch a virtual machine in an other tty...21:20
BluesKajlike trying to squeeze water from a stone21:20
Rid3rBluesKaj: different or not that is not the point dude21:20
BluesKaji'm not a "dude"21:20
DaskreechRid3r: of course21:21
Rid3rlol21:21
BluesKajyou know Rid3r , you could have mentioned the circumstances , it could have helped me tom understand what you meant ...we get so many questions here that aren't clear because of language barrier ..we need more detail ,,,at least I do21:24
BluesKajthink I've had enough for one day21:27
Rid3rDaskreech: beforte to install xnest can I lanch it as user ? and it will load more memory ?21:39
DaskreechBefore you install it ?21:39
Rid3row... was already there*21:40
Rid3rI'v read an old topic...21:43
Rid3rDaskreech: I add the magick cookie and I try Xnest -auth .Xauthority :1 & or :2 but it still in the same tty...21:45
Rid3row can I lanch it in an other tty ?21:45
Rid3rwith -display ?21:45
Daskreechare you looking for something like http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Multiseat ?21:46
Rid3rDaskreech: ow no... sometimes I  use sudo xinit /usr/bin/vmplayer -- :121:48
Rid3rand as you see it's not secure21:48
Rid3rso I would like to know if it's safe to add a user to Xauthority to do it21:49
DaskreechRid3r: Maybe hop into #xorg ?21:49
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Rid3rDaskreech: ow I don't know that chan... I will continu my reserch and it I still bloked I will thanks :)21:50
PhiscribeRid3r what do you mean by save, if the users has a secure password then probably, granting universial access to x, probably not21:50
Phiscribesafe that is21:50
Rid3rPhiscribe: ok so way by default the user was not in Xauthority ?21:51
Rid3rwhy*21:51
Phiscriberemote access is usaly not turned on, i guess default is to close the door, let the user open it21:52
DaskreechPhiscribe: Correct21:53
Rid3rmmm ok ss I havejust to add my ser :)21:54
Rid3ruser*21:54
Rid3rarg...21:54
Phiscribex over ssh is probably most secure, xauth is only partialy, direct display access not secure21:54
Rid3r(sorry I hae amicrosoft ieless eyboard)21:54
Rid3rPhiscribe: all is in localhost*21:55
Rid3rI'm realy disapointed that dpkg-reconfigure x11-common do not work anymore...22:14
Rid3rI'll try with Xwarper22:15
Rid3rit work and the file still updated22:28
Rid3rmerci messieurs22:28
marco__come faccio per la chat ?23:04
Daskreech!it23:08
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)23:08
TheOneRingis there also a kubuntu active quantal quetzal beta?23:21
TheOneRingalpha23:21
TheOneRing^^23:21
TheOneRingdaylies are somehow to unstable23:21
RiddellTheOneRing: no, upstream haven't made a release to go with the latest KDE so there's not much point yet23:23
RiddellTheOneRing: are you a user?23:23
TheOneRingk23:23
TheOneRingI try to install kubuntu active from time to time on my tablet23:24
RiddellTheOneRing: what tablet do you use?23:24
TheOneRingsamsung series 723:24
TheOneRingXE700T123:25
TheOneRingbut plasma active needs still some improvement23:25
TheOneRing^^23:25
RiddellTheOneRing: yep needs some work for sure, but that's happening23:26
TheOneRingand kubuntu active was horrible unstable the last few times I tried it23:28
TheOneRingwith the latest daily the install process  crashed :P23:28
TheOneRingcan I install the desktop version with a more active ppa then https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-active/+archive/ppa ?23:30
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RiddellTheOneRing: well quantal has a recent snapshot of plasma active in it but that doesn't mean it's stable23:31
Riddellthere is no desktop version, that's the point of active :)23:32
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