[01:26] <ceti331> can any kwin (or any other DE) use the trackpad gestures 'rotate' and 'zoom' for spinning desktop cube & displaying "Expo" respectively
[01:41] <RAOF> ceti331: Not without adding code, no.
[01:43] <ceti331> thanks
[01:44] <ceti331> mac is nice for the amount it can do with 2 & 3 finger gestures... but those 2-finger gestures are available since i dont use them for photos
[01:44] <ceti331> gestures are easier to remember than hotkeys :)
[01:49] <RAOF> As I said before, utouch/libgeis is what you're looking for.
[01:54] <jbicha> TheMuso: did you see http://git.gnome.org/browse/nautilus/commit/?id=55e2cdd ?
[01:59] <TheMuso> jbicha: I wasn't looking closely, will take a look, thanks.
[02:00] <TheMuso> jbicha: Good news, although I think visually things are still too cluttered.
[02:00] <TheMuso> but anyway.
[02:00] <TheMuso> Good to hear its addressed.
[02:03] <jbicha> yeah, in my other bug report they said refining nautilus menus was discussed at the UX hackfest yesterday
[02:12] <TheMuso> Ah ok.
[02:12] <TheMuso> I can't help but wonder whether Canonical's design team will suggest that we revert, or at least improve, what is offered by upstream.
[02:20] <jbicha> serious patching sounds like it'd be a headache so I'm hoping that Nautilus upstream will end up good enough
[02:52] <TheMuso> Yep.
[06:11] <BigWhale> Good Morning.
[07:37] <tkamppeter> pitti, hi
[08:05] <Sweetshark> moin everyone!
[08:07] <Sweetshark> Anyone here being able to help me debug that C++11 ABI mess? Starting LibreOffice on Quantal, New Presentation, Close -> Crash. Doesnt happen on precise.
[08:08] <Sweetshark> I tryed to make a sense out of LD_DEBUG=all output, but did not find anything obviously dirty injecting std::list<> symbols there.
[08:09] <Sweetshark> Has anyone a good systematic proposal on how to proceed?
[08:09] <s9iper1> any body knows how can we disable the guest account ???
[08:10] <mlankhorst> Sweetshark: backtrace?
[08:10] <mlankhorst> with the relevant registers as well :)
[08:11] <pitti> tkamppeter: hello; please mail me, I am not on IRC a lot at GUADEC here
[08:13] <Sweetshark> mlankhorst: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1027043 <- here is one
[08:13] <ubot2> Sweetshark: Error: <Bugtracker.plugin.Launchpad instance at 0xa2d980c> bug 1027043 not found
[08:14] <Sweetshark> mlankhorst: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1027043 <- here is one (now public)
[08:15] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 1027043 in libreoffice "soffice.bin crashed with SIGSEGV in std::list<Link, std::allocator<Link> >::remove()" [Medium,Triaged]
[08:16] <mlankhorst> oh great..
[08:17] <mlankhorst> Sweetshark: attach debugger, look for any .so attached? :s
[08:19] <seb128> Sweetshark, try #ubuntu-devel rather than -desktop I guess
[08:20] <seb128> Sweetshark, slangasek doko etc are no on -desktop
[08:20] <mlankhorst> but abi breakage, UGH!!
[08:24] <Sweetshark> mlankhorst: yeah, right ;)
[08:26] <Sweetshark> mlankhorst: the ABI breakage has been turned back by a tweaked new gcc version, but I assume there are still some poisonous binaries in the distro from the time that the incompatible one was in.
[08:27]  * Sweetshark mumbles: If only I would be working on SUSE -- their buildservice rebuilds _all_ rdeps. thus the ABI breakage would have been detect on uploading gcc there.
[08:28] <Sweetshark> :P
[08:36] <dednick> seb128, ping
[08:36] <seb128> dednick, hi
[08:38] <dednick> seb128: hi. I'm looking into generating some thumbnails for work I'm doing in the dash. mhr3 incdicated you might be able to share some info with me on this.
[08:39] <dednick> seb128: Would ideally want to use what nautilus is using, but not sure if it's accessable via a library or not.
[08:42] <seb128> dednick, look to totem to see how it thumbnails videos, but it's basically "ship a thumbnailer for the format you are interested in" and register it and nautilus when call it when needed
[10:44] <mlankhorst> Sweetshark: but creating an incompatible abi with gcc is just asking for trouble :/
[10:48] <Sweetshark> mlankhorst: sure. I agree totally
[11:34] <Sweetshark> oh lol, I won myself a blogpost by writing the most hilarious doxygen documentation back in the days: http://blogs.linux.ie/caolan/2012/07/26/core-components-of-the-core/
[11:35] <Sweetshark> “specifies a service which allows interfacing the core components of the core”
[11:36] <Sweetshark> remember kids, no such thing will ever go unpunished.
[12:25] <BigWhale> CTRL-C and CTRL-W are broken in Nautilus... if I select multiple files, CTRL-C, then open another window, and press CTRL-W it will run a search ... instead of copy files
[12:26] <BigWhale> is this known?
[12:28] <Laney> BigWhale: do you have the nautilus from proposed?
[12:28] <Laney> 1:3.5.4-0ubuntu2
[12:29] <Laney> and I assume you mean V instead of W?
[12:29] <Laney> unless this is differnent in non-EN
[12:35] <BigWhale> Laney, V of course ... sorrry
[12:35] <BigWhale> GNOME nautilus 3.5.4
[12:35] <BigWhale> oh
[13:32] <seb128> mterry, hey
[13:32] <kenvandine> seb128!
[13:32] <seb128> kenvandine, hey ken
[13:32] <mterry> seb128, good EST morning!
[13:32] <seb128> kenvandine, how are you?
[13:32] <kenvandine> seb128, were you working on libdbus 1.6?
[13:32] <seb128> mterry, good DST afternoon
[13:32] <kenvandine> good, and you?
[13:32] <kenvandine> having fun?
[13:32] <seb128> kenvandine, yes, having fun
[13:32] <seb128> kenvandine, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/1014850 dbus
[13:32] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 1014850 in dbus "Update to 1.6.4" [Wishlist,Triaged]
[13:33] <seb128> kenvandine, we figured the commit that broke unity
[13:33] <seb128> kenvandine, njpatel is support to have a look yesterday
[13:33] <seb128> kenvandine, I pinged him earlier he said he would have a look today
[13:33] <seb128> kenvandine, something is unity-panel-service seems to not like the anti eavedropping they put it
[13:33] <seb128> there
[13:33] <kenvandine> ok cool, we've figured out that we think that would fix a gwibber-service crash we are getting when using libaccounts
[13:34] <kenvandine> since 1.4 didn't even try to be thread safe
[13:34] <kenvandine> but
[13:34] <kenvandine> we are probably just going to port the backend to gdbus
[13:34] <seb128> mterry, did you see my comment on that unity-greeter bug?
[13:35] <mterry> seb128, maybe not?  Remind me
[13:35] <seb128> mterry, I commented earlier to know if you could backport the fix for the "write random 500k of data which slows down the greeter"
[13:35] <seb128> mterry, good if you didn't, unping, we are looking at it with Robert here
[13:35] <seb128> mterry, so just let it to us
[13:36] <mterry> I don't think I'm subscribed to all unity-greeter bugs.  But that was a bug I worked on, so I should be subscribed...
[13:36] <mterry> seb128, but OK!  :)
[13:37] <mterry> seb128, sounds like 12.04.1 is going to rock  :)
[13:37] <seb128> mterry, the bug is assigned to you
[13:37] <desrt> seb128: 12.04.1 was going to be the fr_FR.UTF-8 by-default release, right?
[13:37] <seb128> desrt, oui
[13:37] <kenvandine> hshs
[13:38] <kenvandine> haha even
[13:38] <mterry> seb128, hmm, will check my filters
[13:38] <seb128> mterry, just drop the if sender == seb128 then move_to_speam
[13:38] <seb128> spam
[13:38] <seb128> ;-)
[13:38] <seb128> mterry, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/1005642 is the bug btw
[13:38] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 1005642 in unity-greeter "Garbage written to state file, causing slow UI" [High,Fix released]
[13:39] <mterry> seb128, that sessioninstaller bug (bug 848605)...  were you able to reproduce?
[13:39] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 848605 in sessioninstaller "session-installer crashed with AlreadyCalledDeferred in callback()" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/848605
[13:39] <mterry> seb128, I rolled that fix, but can't reproduce myself
[13:39] <seb128> mterry, no I was not :-(
[13:39] <mterry> bummer
[13:39] <seb128> mterry, I guess we will just need to see if reports stop
[13:44] <mterry> seb128, hahah, I just got Robert's changes to the bug
[13:44] <mterry> seb128, I must have some seb filter
[13:45] <seb128> mterry, !!!
[14:30] <Shinobi> If I index the description fields in a series of records, can sphinx return the the primary key of ranked results?
[14:56] <bcurtiswx> good morning
[15:00] <bcurtiswx> that scrollback from znc is funny. Is the seb filter a requirement to join ~ubuntu-desktop?
[15:24] <mterry> bcurtiswx, the seb filter is not a *requirement*, just a recommendation.  Not so much because we don't want to see his bug spam, but just because we like making him ping us
[16:01] <kenvandine> mterry, if i have a bunch of packages that need MIRs, do I really need one bug per package?  I assume so...
[16:01] <mterry> kenvandine, I think it's actually easier to keep track of a cohesive set of packages in one bug
[16:02] <mterry> kenvandine, ideally the requested information is still examined and given per package in the description though
[16:02] <kenvandine> mterry, so you won't yell at me if i use a single bug then ?
[16:02] <kenvandine> yeah
[16:02] <mterry> kenvandine, no, I like it.  As long as they are related.  Like one top package and all its dependencies or something
[16:02] <kenvandine> so... online-accounts and unity-webapps total 29 packages :-D
[16:02] <mterry> kenvandine, :(
[16:03] <kenvandine> but i plan to split it up, online-accounts separate from webapps
[16:03] <mterry> kenvandine, well, I'll bill that time to my +1 team cycle
[16:03] <mterry> kenvandine, sure
[16:03] <kenvandine> mterry, that is exactly what seb128 said :)
[16:03] <mterry> kenvandine, 2 bugs sounds fine
[16:04] <kenvandine> it is a pile of packages... that's what kept me busy all cycle
[16:04] <kenvandine> just started landing some of the sources in quantal :)
[16:04] <mterry> kenvandine, better hurry though!  This is my last week on +1.  After this, I'll whine more about doing the MIR  :)
[16:04] <kenvandine> oh... crap... i won't be ready for it this week
[16:04] <mterry> kenvandine, if you tell me some of the package names, I can start now while you do the paperwork
[16:05] <kenvandine> maybe online-accounts
[16:05] <mterry> kenvandine, no worry, I can still do them later.  Just won't be during my +1 rotation
[16:05] <mterry> I might fob them off on poor didrocks or something
[16:05] <kenvandine> signon, libsignon-glib and libaccounts-glib
[16:05] <seb128> kenvandine, when he says "week" it's a week time, not by tomorrow
[16:05] <kenvandine> is in sourceNEW now
[16:05] <seb128> kenvandine, i.e end of month
[16:05] <mterry> seb128, end of July!
[16:05] <kenvandine> ah... i might have them all in by then :)
[16:05] <mterry> seb128, oh, I guess there's Monday
[16:05] <seb128> mterry, tuesday is the 31
[16:06] <seb128> mterry, so it's actually almost a week of time
[16:06] <mterry> seb128, you and your crazy calendars
[16:06] <seb128> ;-)
[16:06] <mterry> who made my calendar start on Monday?  I'm used to Sunday.  Stupid locales
[16:06] <seb128> do you get your weather in °C as well?
[16:07] <mterry> Guh, Britain
[16:07] <mterry> I think I set en_GB back in the day for 24 hour time, but now the clock lets me set that directly
[16:08] <mterry> This must be fascinating for #ubuntu-desktop  :)
[16:08] <mterry> kenvandine, will start reviewing
[16:08] <kenvandine> i know i am on the edge of my seat here
[16:09] <kenvandine> mterry, thx
[16:09] <kenvandine> seb128's been reviewing them for me before i uploaded them
[16:12] <seb128> I do NEW review though
[16:12] <seb128> not security reviews or code reviews
[16:13] <kenvandine> indeed
[16:14]  * mterry hugs kenvandine for the symbols file
[16:15] <kenvandine> :)
[16:15] <kenvandine> i tried to use symbols files for the cpp stuff too
[16:15] <kenvandine> but it got to be too big of a pita
[16:15]  * kenvandine hugs C
[16:15] <mterry> kenvandine, yeah, I don't even bother complaining about lack of symbols files for c++
[16:15] <kenvandine> i eventually whacked them
[16:17] <seb128> kenvandine, ok, you got 3 sources through, only 26 left ;-)
[16:17]  * kenvandine hugs seb128
[16:17] <kenvandine> more coming soonish
[16:17]  * seb128 hugs kenvandine back
[16:17] <seb128> kenvandine, will be tomorrow for me
[16:17] <kenvandine> sure
[16:17] <kenvandine> it might be tomorrow for me too
[16:18] <seb128> we are eod at GUADEC, will travel back from the conf place soon
[16:18] <kenvandine> i need to upload a patched firefox to the PPA now
[16:18] <kenvandine> racarr did what chrisccoulson suggested and wants people to test it
[16:18] <seb128> ok
[16:19] <chrisccoulson> heh, i started looking at that addon last night. it's not very future proof :(
[16:20] <chrisccoulson> it's completely incompatible with multiple content processes, for example (and that's going to happen soon for desktop, like it is already for mobile)
[16:22] <kenvandine> chrisccoulson, make sure you give that feedback to racarr
[16:23] <chrisccoulson> kenvandine, yeah, i want to review a bit more first
[16:23] <kenvandine> sure
[16:23] <kenvandine> i'd be nice if he could fix all that stuff up sooner than later
[16:23] <chrisccoulson> but it's not good that a future security update is going to require significant changes to their code to keep it working :/
[16:24] <kenvandine> exactly... so would be good to address it now
[16:24] <kenvandine> chrisccoulson, did you look at his patch for firefox too?
[16:24] <chrisccoulson> not yet
[16:24] <mterry> kenvandine, one thing I would normally mention for most of these packages is having a bug subscriber.  So I'll just do it once up front.  :)  Maybe ~ubuntu-desktop or some such
[16:24] <kenvandine> ok, well we'll make sure you do before it lands in the distro :)
[16:24] <kenvandine> mterry, yeah i am actually working on that now
[16:24] <chrisccoulson> it won't land in the distro before i've looked at it
[16:24] <kenvandine> well sort of...
[16:25] <chrisccoulson> else i will just revert it again ;)
[16:25] <kenvandine> i need the packages to exist before people can subscribe
[16:25] <chrisccoulson> it won't land in the distro until it's been reviewed and committed upstream either
[16:25] <kenvandine> but i am making a list of packages and notes on what to do with them
[16:25] <kenvandine> ok
[16:37] <mterry> kenvandine, have you started a MIR bug?  Else I'll make one to add notes to as I go, and you can fill in on your side too as you go
[16:38] <kenvandine> i haven't yet
[16:38]  * mterry makes one
[16:38] <kenvandine> thx!
[16:41] <mterry> kenvandine, bug 1029549
[16:41] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1029549 in libsignon-glib "[MIR] online-accounts and friends" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1029549
[16:42] <kenvandine> thanks!
[16:43] <mterry> kenvandine, bug 1029549
[16:43] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1029549 in signon "[MIR] online-accounts and friends" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1029549
[16:45] <kenvandine> mterry, added a list of packages and description
[16:55] <mterry> kenvandine, the upstream source is listed as http://code.google.com/p/accounts-sso/ and I see tarballs there, but no vcs?
[16:55] <kenvandine> they are there
[16:55] <kenvandine> in git
[16:56] <kenvandine> http://code.google.com/p/accounts-sso/source/checkout
[16:56] <kenvandine> multiple repos
[16:56] <kenvandine> code reviews and all go there
[16:59] <mterry> kenvandine, oh, when I went to browse or commits, it shows nothing
[16:59] <mterry> and when I checkout, I get nothing...  Hm
[17:00] <mterry> ah!
[17:00] <mterry> there is a dropdown for which project
[17:00] <kenvandine> right
[17:01] <kenvandine> the GI patch to libsignon-glib is in a branch there pending review
[17:01] <kenvandine> and the signond patch won't get merged, that is a distro specific change
[17:01] <ricotz> Laney, hi, just wanted to say that gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad 0.10.22.3-2ubuntu4 "/usr/share/gstreamer-0.10/presets/GstVP8Enc.prs" conflicts with transmageddon 0.20-1
[17:01] <Laney> huh, weird
[17:01] <Laney> which package should have it?
[17:02] <ricotz> Laney, not sure, gstreamer seems more appropriate, but obviously transmageddon already ships it ;)
[17:03] <Laney> can you take care of it? I'm busy with A3 stuff atm
[17:04] <ricotz> Laney, i am not a motu
[17:04] <kenvandine> mterry, it's kind of weird... we are sort of the upstream for it, but intel contributes too and it is used in meego
[17:04] <kenvandine> so the core bits of it all live outside of launchpad
[17:14] <mterry> kenvandine, is there a reason not to use debhelper 9 instead?  You get multiarch and hardening flags for free
[17:17] <kenvandine> no reason
[17:17] <kenvandine> and multiarch was on my todo list anyway
[17:20] <micahg> hi nessita
[17:20] <nessita> hello micahg, how is it going?
[17:21] <micahg> nessita: ok, how are you
[17:21] <nessita> pretty good, thanks
[17:22] <micahg> nessita: I have a bug (I need to update the aptitude why output, but you should still get the idea), Bug #1029552 , can you take a look?
[17:22] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1029552 in xubuntu-meta "Qt is pulled in unnecessarily due to software-center Recommends and ubuntu-sso-client-gtk removal" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1029552
[17:24] <nessita> micahg: I'm on rotation for a couple of months to another team for helping in some specific integration issues, so I will ask someone currently working on the U1 dekstop team to look at it (very likely, dobey)
[17:24] <nessita> dobey: hey there, you around?
[17:24] <micahg> nessita: ah, ok, I pinged you since you created the s-c branch :)
[17:24] <dobey> hi
[17:24] <nessita> micahg: yeah, is absolutely ok
[17:25] <nessita> dobey: any chance you could take a look at the bug micahg pointed out? perhaps is a SC issue only, and I can talk about with michael
[17:25] <dobey> it's not unnecessary
[17:25] <dobey> and the -qt will get pulled in anyway
[17:25] <nessita> dobey: why?
[17:25] <dobey> ubuntu one?
[17:26] <micahg> dobey: no, it's unnecessary for Xubuntu :)
[17:26] <dobey> oh
[17:26] <dobey> i guess software center should Provides: ubuntu-sso-client-gui
[17:27] <micahg> dobey: I thought there was going to be a new binary
[17:27] <dobey> no
[17:27] <micahg> software-center-sso-gtk not happening?
[17:28] <dobey> there just is no more ubuntu-sso-client-gtk; s-c includes the same code renamed; and it's only useful for software-center
[17:28] <dobey> micahg: it's part of the software-center binary package
[17:28] <dobey> no need for a separate package there
[17:28] <micahg> ah, ok, yeah, that would be fine then
[17:29] <wendar> I've got an odd window resize bug (the window disappears when the user tries to resize it) in precise. I'm looking for suggestions on how to debug it.
[17:29] <wendar> It reminds me of a compiz bug we resolved last year.
[17:29] <nessita> dobey: want me to talk about this with michael tomorrow?
[17:29] <wendar> (where the solution was to make sure the window was registered in a separate location for compiz)
[17:30] <dobey> nessita: i don't think there's anything to discuss. seems xubuntu will need software-center to have a Provides: ubuntu-sso-client-gui is all; and i don't really have a significant opinion on it one way or the other in that case
[17:30] <micahg> as U1 and ubuntu-sso-client are the only consumers, that shouldn't cause issues and solve our dependency chain problem
[17:31] <nessita> dobey: ah, I understood sc should Provides: ussoc-gui in all the packages (not only xubuntu)
[17:31] <micahg> dobey: well, it's anyone not shipping Qt and including software-center
[17:31] <dobey> nessita: yes, i mean xubuntu is where this is really an issue. the packages wouldn't be specific to them
[17:31] <micahg> nessita: yes, it would be everywhere
[17:31] <dobey> micahg: right, just using the example as the example :)
[17:32] <nessita> ok, so michael needs to change this in the sc source tree
[17:32] <dobey> right, because it's a native package :-/
[17:32] <micahg> well, Xubuntu is the only one it seems affected :)
[17:32] <dobey> so fixing it requires a s-c release
[17:33] <dobey> well i'm sure kubuntu don't care that qt is being pulled in :)
[17:33] <dobey> lubuntu might care and just haven't been vocal yet
[17:33] <micahg> UbuntuStudio, Mythbuntu, and Edubuntu all have Qt through other means
[17:33] <dobey> right
[17:33] <micahg> lubuntu and kubuntu don't ship S-C
[17:34] <dobey> ah
[17:34]  * micahg could just drop S-C, but would rather not
[17:34] <ceti331> in kwin, is it possible to launch 'desktop cube' or 'desktop grid' from a panel-widget
[17:34] <dobey> well, we could possibly just remove the Recommends: in ubuntu-sso-client package as well
[17:35] <dobey> ceti331: i think you want #kde for that question? :)
[17:35] <micahg> dobey: that would work as well if it's not needed
[17:36] <dobey> it shouldn't break anything i don't think
[17:37] <dobey> u1 stuff explicitly requires ubuntu-sso-client-qt in the control panel, and so it's already there in Ubuntu now too
[17:37] <micahg> ok, that might make more sense
[17:37] <dobey> or just make it a suggests
[17:38] <micahg> suggests would be fine, the GUI seems tangential to the dbus service anyways
[17:39] <dobey> well, a UI is required to actually register or log in. but we have explicit depends already; and can add more where necessary, if we need to
[17:41] <micahg> hrm, then I guess provides does make sense since it has the gui
[17:41] <micahg> and the recommends makes sense as well
[17:42] <dobey> well, except the s-c gui is only used by s-c, and won't get used automatically from elsewhere
[17:42] <dobey> so probably not the best
[17:44] <dobey> micahg: anyway, just put my thoughts into the bug.
[17:45] <micahg> dobey: ok, I'm fine with 2, if you want to switch from a s-c task to an u-sso-c task
[17:48] <dobey> sounds fine to me
[17:51] <micahg> dobey: can you take/fix it after alpha3?
[17:52] <micahg> I'm happy to do the upload otherwise
[17:52] <dobey> micahg: i'll fix it right now and upload it to q-proposed
[17:52] <micahg> dobey: great, thanks
[17:52] <nessita> dobey: thanks for taking care of this :-)
[17:53] <dobey> sure
[17:56] <dobey> and done. :)
[18:37] <mterry> kenvandine, ping me as new pkgs get uploaded!
[18:37] <mterry> rarrr, feed me MIRs!
[18:37] <kenvandine> mterry, will do :)
[18:37]  * mterry is a machine that converts MIRs into complaints about test suites
[18:40] <kenvandine> mterry, we used to have to build signon with gcc 4.6, but i hadn't tried 4.7 in ages
[18:41] <mterry> kenvandine, dunno, just happend to work in my chroot
[18:41] <kenvandine> the tests pass in they're jenkins build but haven't been friendly in the package builds
[18:41] <mterry> kenvandine, a hardcoded system path perhaps?
[18:41] <kenvandine> mterry, i don't think i've tried in months
[18:41] <mterry> kenvandine, well, I would accept a dep8-ified version of the tests, but I didn't see that either
[18:42] <kenvandine> dep8-ified?
[18:43] <dobey> kenvandine: what's passing in jenkins but failing in package builds?
[18:43] <kenvandine> signon
[18:43] <kenvandine> it's still in a private jenkins
[18:46] <mterry> kenvandine, dep8 is the autopkgtest stuff
[18:46] <mterry> kenvandine, see update-manager for example.  debian/tests
[18:46] <dobey> oh, the package isn't running the tests
[19:52] <Laney> ricotz: I'm just going to make gst ship only /usr/share/gstreamer-0.10/presets/GstVP8Enc.prs for now
[19:52] <Laney> fighting it out with the other package doesn't seem worth it
[19:53] <Laney> Three uploads for this package. Sigh. Don't kick me out.
[19:54] <Laney> hmm, actually, no: that one was the point of this upload. I thought it was the other file.
[19:55] <micahg> umm, it's a universe package :)
[19:56] <Laney> so?
[19:56] <micahg> why should the desktop team care?
[19:56] <micahg> now MOTUs on the other hand :)
[19:56] <Laney> ricotz brought it up in here.
[19:56] <micahg> indeed
[19:57]  * Laney shrugs
[19:57] <micahg> just saying, you're looking out for the wrong lynch mob :)
[19:57] <Laney> you read it anyway :P
[19:58] <Laney> stealing the file from transmageddon then
[19:58] <Laney> it has the Depends anyway
[19:59] <micahg> Laney: is there a reason that package wasn't merged from Debian yet (has multiarch support there)
[19:59] <Laney> which?
[19:59] <micahg> -plugins-bad
[19:59] <Laney> dunno
[19:59] <Laney> I haven't evaluated what the changes are
[21:14] <robru> bah, who broke gedit-plugins?
[21:33] <micahg> robru: happens every cycle when gedit is updated without the plugins
[21:33] <robru> ah.
[21:33] <robru> Remind me never to update gedit again ;-)
[21:33] <micahg> robru: this is quantal, right?
[21:33] <robru> yeah
[21:34] <robru> Got a little carried away with the dist-upgrade command
[21:34] <micahg> robru: feel free to propose a merge/debian dir debdiff
[21:34] <robru> I'll look in a bit. Pretty busy putting out other fires at the moment.
[21:36] <micahg> robru: oh, there aren't any updates available, so that's probably why it's still broke
[21:37] <robru> so, what then? somebody just needs to make the package and submit it?
[21:37] <micahg> no, I mean no upstream releases
[21:38] <robru> so how to fix this then? is it just a matter of recompiling the plugins against a new binary, or is there more to it? Because the gedit-plugins package says it depends on gedit < 3.5 wheras I have > 3.5 installed
[21:38] <robru> was there some big API change in the gedit plugins infrastructure?
[21:39] <micahg> oh, hrm, let me see
[21:40] <robru> $ sudo apt-get install gedit-plugins
[21:40] <robru> Reading package lists... Done
[21:40] <robru> Building dependency tree
[21:40] <robru> Reading state information... Done
[21:40] <robru> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[21:40] <robru> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[21:40] <robru> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[21:40] <robru> or been moved out of Incoming.
[21:40] <robru> The following information may help resolve the situation:
[21:40] <robru> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[21:40] <robru>  gedit-plugins : Depends: gedit (< 3.5) but 3.5.1-0ubuntu2 is to be installed
[21:40] <robru> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[21:40] <micahg> robru: yeah, I see that now
[21:41] <robru> I have a hunch that it would work just fine if it were installed, but it's just the listed dependencies on the package itself are broken. Though I'm just assuming.
[21:42] <robru> Anyway, I'll poke at it later.
[21:43] <micahg> robru: it builds fine, but I have no idea of the consequences of changing the dependency, maybe one of the desktoppers can comment
[21:45] <Laney> http://git.gnome.org/browse/gedit/log/
[21:45] <Laney> doesn't look like any API changing commits
[21:49] <robru> thanks Laney