[19:12] <mokmeister> Just looking at OMGUbuntu there and thinking Ubuntu is really set to take off!
[19:12] <mokmeister> It has so much going for it these days it more than matches other commercial OSes, it's unreal really
[19:13] <mokmeister> Kudos to all those who work so hard making Ubuntu what it is.
[19:13] <mokmeister> It's great to be part of something special!
[19:14] <mokmeister> Makes me feel kinda good inside using this OS.
[19:16] <airurando> nice one mokmeister
[19:21] <mokmeister> Indeed! Only saying it like it is! :D How are you airurando?
[19:40] <airurando> good now mokemeister, and you?
[19:41] <zmoylan> each new version of windows seems a little worse and a little more restrictive.  their loss is linuxs gain.  ubuntu is the starting point for many looking at linux.
[20:03] <airurando> hi zmoylan
[20:04] <zmoylan> hi airurando, all well?
[20:04] <airurando> yip
[20:04] <airurando> and with you?
[20:05] <zmoylan> getting by.  hip gradually getting better.  mostly trying to walk as much as possible to build up lost muscle.  down to one crutch.  only symptom left is insomnia
[20:06] <airurando> to the first part good
[20:06] <airurando> to the second bad
[20:06] <mokmeister> yes, things are good, thanks for asking .
[20:06] <mokmeister> hi zmoylan
[20:06] <zmoylan> hi mokmeister
[20:06] <mokmeister> yeah, Windows 8 seems to be getting fairly mixed reviews
[20:06] <airurando> if you get more and more excercise I'd hope the insomnia might go away.
[20:07] <mokmeister> Glad it won't be bothering me!
[20:07] <mokmeister> exercise is key
[20:07] <zmoylan> when they're already dissing it on prime time sites like the bbc it cannot be good for ms.  ms's loss is linuxs gain.
[20:07] <mokmeister> still hard to do if there's pain. Harder to sleep as well I'd imagine
[20:07] <mokmeister> BBC? I didn't see that
[20:08] <mokmeister> I read the Gartner guy's report on Win 8, what did he say again, "in a word, bad..." ow!
[20:10] <zmoylan> http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18996377
[20:10] <mokmeister> Even though he said that about the desktop experience rather than Windows 8 as a whole. He felt the experience was good on tablets etc.
[20:10] <mokmeister> Thanks for the link
[20:12] <zmoylan> the problem is that all the oses are obsessed with a one size fits all interface because of tablets.  this is not a good thing imo.  with ubuntu you can use unity or install xubuntu or lubuntu and use a traditional ui.  linux=choice
[20:12] <mokmeister> I saw that on the register
[20:13] <mokmeister> true, the beauty of linux in general. Choice.
[20:13] <mokmeister> Use it the way you want, not the way you are told to use it
[20:14] <mokmeister> Speaking of the register and openness etc., came across some sad news on the Register today: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/07/26/andre_hedrick/
[20:14] <mokmeister> Only for Andre we might not have had any choices in the hw we use.
[20:14] <zmoylan> and it'll run on anything from a raspberry pi to a beowulf cluster or ibm mainframe and everything in between.
[20:15] <zmoylan> saw that.  one of the heros who's name will be remembered by so few.
[20:16] <mokmeister> indeed
[20:17] <mokmeister> Kids are looking for hot chocolate before bedtime, better go and attend to their needs! ;)
[20:17] <mokmeister> biab
[20:17] <zmoylan> we need something like the andre hedrick award for open hardware.  nvidia need not apply, or should be given a booby prize
[20:18] <zmoylan> hot chocolate in summer.  phew! :-)
[20:43] <mokmeister> Yes, indeed, they love their hot chocolate, all year round!
[20:44] <mokmeister> They weren't overly happy there were no marshmallows left! ;)
[20:44] <zmoylan> oh the hardships they must face! :-D
[20:46] <zmoylan> for me as a kid it was cocoa and slice of white turnover loaf bread to go with it on  cold nights.
[20:51] <czajkowski> aloha
[20:51] <zmoylan> hi, all well?
[20:51] <czajkowski> yeah all good
[20:52] <zmoylan> sorted your irc problems?
[20:52] <czajkowski> nope
[20:52] <czajkowski> not harassing ubuntu sever folks
[21:03] <zmoylan> because tomorrow is sysadmin day? http://sysadminday.com/
[21:11] <mokmeister> I like the idea of andre hedrick award, nice one! Twould be nice to see something like that happen.
[21:12] <mokmeister> I like to think those hardships my kids have to face, *every* day, are character building!
[21:13] <mokmeister> At least they'll be able to face the world, chin up, when there's no marshallows left!
[21:13] <mokmeister> With that said, it's time for me to hit the hay. G'nite all.
[21:13] <zmoylan> well as a parent you get to use those iconic lines that made us as kids think.  my mothers great line was 'don't come running to me when you break a leg' :-)
[21:13] <zmoylan> cya
[21:13] <mokmeister> hehehe, indeed!
[21:13] <mokmeister> byeeeee!