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ChorinHello11:40
Chorincan anyone help me out with something?11:42
geserjust ask11:42
Chorinooh I think I might be in the wrong channel11:43
ChorinI'm trying to get a usb wireless dongle to work11:43
Chorinjust for wifi in the house11:44
RainCTChorin: yeah, support is #ubuntu11:45
Chorinawesome thanks11:45
Chorinsorry to bother11:45
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tumbleweedMOTU meeting reminder (10 mins)15:50
Laneywoah15:51
Laneyi did forget!15:51
* tumbleweed mostly missed the last one15:51
tumbleweedI assume there are things we should be doing for these meetings that we aren't15:51
tumbleweedsuch as preparing beginner tasks15:51
ScottKIf anyone want to volunteer to maintain Qt3 so it doesn't get removed, now's your chance (See ubuntu-devel).16:12
micahgscottK: I think the biggest burden is the LSB, once that's fixed, it can go16:14
ScottKmicahg: I claim we don't care.16:14
ScottKISV's don't target non-LTS releases to any degree anyway.16:14
micahg5.0 supposedly doesn't need it16:14
micahghrm, okies, Debian seems to have done away with it, but let's see if there's any pushback on -devel16:17
ScottKIn Debian lots of people whined, but when asked "Does that mean you're going to maintain it" they all got very quiet.16:20
ScottKI expect the same here.16:20
micahgwell, the source is either in main or it's gone AFAIC, unless someone with significant resources commits to it16:21
micahgit's a shame we couldn't have laid it to rest before precise was released16:24
ScottKNo, I think we needed it for the LTS.  There is still significant ISV and science software that's never been ported.16:25
ScottKRight after the LTS though is the perfect time to remove it.16:25
micahgI agree, but it's still a shame :016:25
ScottKThe main thing is not to be the next gtk 1.2.16:26
* micahg guesses gtk2 will still be in 14.04 and maybe even 16.0316:26
micahg*16.0416:26
micahgsame with python216:27
bdrungi guess that python2 will live way longer than gtk216:28
micahgwell, maybe not 16.04, I think I'd kill both of those with fire if they were still in universe by 16.0416:28
micahgespecially with 5 year LTSs16:28
micahgwe can leverage backports for stragglers16:29
ScottKPython is used by too many people for local scripts and things to go away anytime soon.16:30
micahg4 years away isn't enough?16:30
ScottKNo.16:30
micahgit's not like python will be gone, there will be python3.whatever16:31
ScottKRight, but, for example, I have production python code I haven't touched since 2006.16:32
micahgwell, I guess it'll depend on how much commitment there is for upstream support and how committed Debian is to removal16:32
micahgscottK: right, but it'll be that code's 10 year anniversary, time for a tune up :)16:32
micahgor were you planning on skipping 3 altogether and going straight to 4? :)16:33
ScottKI plan on not spending time on it until I have to.16:34
ScottKAlthough I did look at that particular file and the one bit that's tricky to port I stole from something else that I've already ported.16:34
ScottKIt's more that with python it's not packaged software migration you're up against, it's sysadmins trying to get their stuff done.16:35
PaoloRotoloHi all!16:39
agrestringere+micahg you needed help with the Chromium PPA yes?16:42
micahgagrestringere: yes, shall I add you to the list of people to contact when it's started up again?16:42
agrestringere+micahg yes I'm a CS major here in NYC and a Linux nutter so I would love to volunteer and learn how it's done...16:43
agrestringereI'll connect with you via launchpad16:46
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micahgscottK: if I approved a backport, but it slipped through the cracks and didn't get uploaded and there's a newer version in quantal, can I upload the older version if it's not RC buggy?18:56
ScottKmicahg: Yes, but it's generally better to retest the new one.18:56
micahgwell, this had several reverse dependencies, so I'm reluctant to ask for that18:57
micahgnormally I'd agree, I'll check with the requestor though before uploading18:57
ScottKOK.19:00

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