| Len-nb | utillities | 01:41 |
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| * Len-nb needs focus follows mind | 01:42 | |
| ailo | Len-nb: I'm still getting the jackdbus bug with latest jackd | 12:55 |
| ailo | Even double checked with the kxstudio version | 12:55 |
| ailo | jack_control is fixed, that's all | 12:55 |
| ailo | I don't get the bug as easily, at least as it seems right now | 12:56 |
| ailo | But I do get it eventually | 12:56 |
| ailo | What a dream it is replacing jackd packages with custom ones.. | 13:01 |
| len-dt | ailo, I think there may be more than one bug with jackd | 13:02 |
| ailo | len-dt: As? | 13:03 |
| len-dt | Even with our version there seems to be two things. | 13:03 |
| len-dt | qjackctl has dbus fails and so does jack_control, but jack_control most times can be run again to restart jack. | 13:04 |
| len-dt | but every once in a while jack fails badly and nothing works. | 13:05 |
| len-dt | Jackd stops talking to dbus. | 13:05 |
| len-dt | most of the time jackd just doesn't talk soon enough or forgets to reply or some thing | 13:06 |
| len-dt | qjackctl doesn't seem to recover well for that. | 13:06 |
| len-dt | I don't know if that makes sense | 13:06 |
| ailo | I've been trying to find bug reports about it. So far, there's one in Ubuntu (plus at least one duplicate), and one in Debian | 13:08 |
| ailo | Nothing in jack trac, AFAIK | 13:08 |
| len-dt | There was quite a lot of talk on LAU for a while. | 13:08 |
| len-dt | That was where the patch came from | 13:08 |
| len-dt | ardour3b5 is out | 13:09 |
| ailo | len-dt: You have a link, or remember the date somewhat? | 13:10 |
| ailo | I don't remember reading about it | 13:10 |
| len-dt | try around June 3 look for the thread LAU] [Jack-Devel] jack2 turned verbose | 13:11 |
| len-dt | http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-user/2012-June/085239.html | 13:13 |
| ailo | There was no patch | 13:17 |
| ailo | Seems that they came to the conclusion that the problem is in GCC | 13:17 |
| ailo | I remember reading about it, but had forgotten | 13:19 |
| ailo | Thought it was solved, but apparently not yet anyway | 13:19 |
| len-dt | partially solved... | 13:19 |
| len-dt | I don't know if dbus does realtime that well... jack wants to deal with dbus quickly or at least spend its time dealing with audio most of the time. | 13:22 |
| len-dt | What people tend to forget is that even when we aren't doing anything with audio, jack is still dealing with any connected app and all the I/Os. It works just as hard sending silence as noise | 13:25 |
| ailo | I was trying to build jackd2 with gcc-4.6, but didn't work. Seems like libjack at least depends on gcc-4.7 | 13:44 |
| ailo | So, that would not work as a simple work around either | 13:44 |
| ailo | It's unfortunate that such a bug has to exist on a LTS | 13:44 |
| ailo | I've just spent half a day confirming whether the fix to a bug actually was a fix, to find out there was no fix | 13:46 |
| astraljava | ailo: len-dt: Willing to test i386 of Alpha 3? I can do the amd64. | 13:47 |
| ailo | astraljava: I'll be installing the amd64 version shortly | 13:50 |
| ailo | i386 too, a bit later | 13:50 |
| astraljava | ailo: Ok, thanks. I can do the i386 then. | 13:50 |
| astraljava | A-ha, even better. Thanks. :) | 13:50 |
| len-dt | astraljava, do you have the qa site url handy? | 14:04 |
| len-dt | i386 runs and installs fine | 14:04 |
| len-dt | The new menu items work as planned. | 14:05 |
| len-dt | ailo, please check the four top menu items, web browser, file manager, and terminal. | 14:06 |
| len-dt | I had not thought of them, xfce4.10 may have changed them too. | 14:07 |
| astraljava | len-dt: iso.qa.ubuntu.com | 14:12 |
| len-dt | got it. | 14:13 |
| === ubuntu-studio is now known as ailo-live | ||
| len-dt | ailo-live, I was mostly checking menu stuff on my test as that is what I changed. I did not look at jack at all | 15:24 |
| ailo-live | len-dt, Was just trying it a bit | 15:24 |
| ailo-live | Installing right now | 15:24 |
| len-dt | ailo-live, I am working on per/menu installers right now. About half done. They will go up after a3 testing is done. | 15:26 |
| astraljava | ailo: Have you started testing already? | 16:30 |
| ailo | astraljava: Yes. Just looking at the iso.qa.ubuntu.com site | 16:30 |
| astraljava | ailo: Sweet! Thanks! | 16:32 |
| ailo | astraljava: Oops. Which release is this? I realized I had downloaded the daily build | 16:33 |
| astraljava | ailo: The image to be used is 20120724.1 | 16:34 |
| astraljava | They are dailies, Studio only has one container where builds go. | 16:35 |
| astraljava | For milestones, only certain dailies are selected. And daily builds are disabled when a candidate is ready, and enabled again when milestone testing ends. | 16:35 |
| ailo | astraljava: Shouldn't current be the right one, then? | 16:36 |
| astraljava | I guess you mean should*, and yes. :) | 16:37 |
| astraljava | ailo: So, as soon as you can mark the install results, I'll notify on -release to mark it as ready, and we'll have it included in the milestone announcement. | 16:38 |
| ailo | It's done for amd64 | 16:38 |
| ailo | I'm not installing i386 today | 16:38 |
| astraljava | Rockin'! | 16:38 |
| astraljava | Len did i386. | 16:38 |
| ailo | nautilus doesn't have a menu anymore | 16:39 |
| ailo | I hate big icons | 16:39 |
| astraljava | Thanks guys! Awesome work from you once again! | 16:40 |
| ailo | len-dt: I think I prefer Thunar to Nautilus right now. | 16:43 |
| ailo | What do you think? | 16:43 |
| ailo | They are basically looking the same, except Nautilus is weird | 16:43 |
| ailo | It's not like that on Gnome | 16:43 |
| ailo | No menu makes it hard to do change settings | 16:44 |
| ailo | Nah, I found it | 16:47 |
| Len-nb | I don't remember having a problem with nautilus. Nautilus has at least two features thunar does not. It has sftp built in and a file search. | 17:00 |
| Len-nb | ailo, ^^ | 17:00 |
| Len-nb | ailo, holstein interesting, mixxx works just fine on my netbook... | 17:05 |
| Len-nb | just won't fit on my screen | 17:08 |
| Len-nb | maybe a video driver problem | 17:12 |
| ailo | Len-nb: I was just having trouble finding preferences in the one button menu | 17:21 |
| ailo | Also, it was hard to read, cause the theme is buggy | 17:22 |
| ailo | At first it seemed all the options were only local to the folder | 17:22 |
| Len-nb | Yes there are a lot of problems with theme | 17:22 |
| Len-nb | Theme is black box stuff to me though | 17:22 |
| ailo | I think it's just .css type of text | 17:23 |
| Len-nb | Theme was the first thing I mentioned when the first ISO came out | 17:23 |
| * Len-nb has never learned any css stuff | 17:24 | |
| ailo | Anyway, I found it | 17:25 |
| ailo | mixxx has been working fine for me too, when I've tried it | 17:26 |
| ailo | I have nvidia drivers | 17:26 |
| Len-nb | I have the free ones | 17:26 |
| Len-nb | They have issues | 17:27 |
| ailo | Len-nb: You uninstalled the proprietary ones? | 17:27 |
| ailo | Those were installed by default on this install | 17:27 |
| Len-nb | They were never installed. Any time I have tried I can't get to X | 17:28 |
| ailo | Len-nb: Is that the old card? | 17:28 |
| Len-nb | I have an old card | 17:28 |
| Len-nb | The MB is at least 8 years old | 17:29 |
| Len-nb | The video card caps are starting to go... streaks across the screen | 17:29 |
| ailo | Len-nb: Could I bother you for a second? | 17:58 |
| ailo | What does 'uname -m' give you on i386? | 17:58 |
| ailo | i386, or perhaps i686? | 17:59 |
| ailo | Also, would you mind paste bin the kernel config on Quantal. If you updated, you should have /boot/config-3.5.0-6-lowlatency | 18:00 |
| ailo | len-dt: Never mind. Installing.. | 20:01 |
| len-dt | ailo, sorry, I was finishing up the menu extra install items. On my 12.04 disk. | 20:06 |
| len-dt | The family is off to the beach now. Be back in some hours... maybe when you wake up? | 20:06 |
| len-dt | I'll boot 12.10 then and report (and test a bit more) | 20:07 |
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