| micahg | :(, looks like we don't really have hope for a respin until tomorrow, armhf won't be ready for another 12 hours | 02:23 |
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| micahg | if that | 02:24 |
| micahg | and I have to tie up an arm builder for an extra day to get that respin | 02:24 |
| * pleia2 does some more tests | 03:16 | |
| pleia2 | this one is :( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1027461 | 04:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1027461 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Xubuntu, installer locked in auto resize" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 04:13 |
| micahg | hrm, so no desktop images either :( | 04:18 |
| * micahg knows nothing about ubiquity | 04:19 | |
| pleia2 | that one just kills it for resizing, other installs work ok | 04:19 |
| micahg | ah, release notable then I guess | 04:20 |
| Unit193 | Manual partitioning. | 04:21 |
| Unit193 | +work? | 04:21 |
| pleia2 | didn't try manual | 04:21 |
| pleia2 | I'll give it a go, then I need to get back to work on other things :) | 04:25 |
| pleia2 | it seems alright with manual partitioning, even resizing partitions in that screen | 04:37 |
| pleia2 | ah well I've gone this far, might as well finish the test | 04:40 |
| knome | i don't think there's much to tell on the release notes. apart from the bugs you've mentioned. :) | 04:41 |
| pleia2 | knome! | 04:41 |
| knome | pleia2! | 04:41 |
| pleia2 | hello :) | 04:41 |
| knome | morning | 04:41 |
| pleia2 | should we update the slideshow? | 04:42 |
| knome | yes, but not now ;) | 04:42 |
| pleia2 | ok | 04:42 |
| pleia2 | the thunderbird screen shows us being all "yay 12.04" | 04:42 |
| knome | that's probably an item in the doc blueprint | 04:42 |
| pleia2 | ok | 04:42 |
| knome | or appearance | 04:42 |
| pleia2 | I will look around | 04:43 |
| knome | i can dig it up | 04:43 |
| knome | [xubuntu-team] Review installation slideshow after docs rewrite is done: BLOCKED | 04:43 |
| knome | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-q-xubuntu-refresh-offline-documentation | 04:43 |
| pleia2 | oh goodness, that | 04:43 |
| pleia2 | I made progress while I was on the airplane | 04:44 |
| knome | oohh | 04:44 |
| knome | in what sense? ;) | 04:44 |
| pleia2 | http://dagobah.princessleia.com/Xubuntu/12.10 | 04:44 |
| pleia2 | all the grey links are not existing pages | 04:44 |
| knome | mm-hmm | 04:44 |
| pleia2 | so this is just a copy of what is in the docs index now, I think people can start there | 04:44 |
| knome | looks good though | 04:45 |
| knome | maybe create that organize-yourself page | 04:45 |
| knome | i'll take a shower, brb | 04:45 |
| Unit193 | Monthly shower. | 04:47 |
| pleia2 | the polar bears don't mind smelly knome | 04:47 |
| pleia2 | I'll draft up the alpha3 post for tomorrow on wordpress, knome you wanna update the wiki? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Alpha3 | 04:54 |
| knome | pleia2, i suppose i don't know what to update :| | 04:59 |
| pleia2 | I think all we have to put is "known issues" | 04:59 |
| knome | yup | 04:59 |
| knome | but i don't know what those are ;) | 05:00 |
| knome | maybe the ones you mentioned | 05:00 |
| pleia2 | ah yes, I'm doing blog post now and will include them | 05:00 |
| knome | ok | 05:00 |
| knome | i can update the wiki based on those | 05:00 |
| * pleia2 nods | 05:00 | |
| knome | what are the bug #s again? | 05:01 |
| knome | oh! | 05:02 |
| knome | the ISO is oversized. | 05:02 |
| pleia2 | 1027461 is the big bad one | 05:02 |
| pleia2 | hoping the alt is fixed with the respin tomorrow | 05:02 |
| pleia2 | oops, need to do cat stuff, brb | 05:02 |
| Unit193 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Alpha3#Xubuntu-1 | 05:02 |
| knome | updated with that big bad one and a mention of being oversized | 05:05 |
| knome | mr_pouit, have we uploaded big appearance changes between a2 and a3? | 05:07 |
| pleia2 | knome: for the last one, I'd mention that manual resizing works ok | 05:14 |
| knome | can you add that along with any details you wish? | 05:15 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 05:15 |
| knome | thanks | 05:15 |
| pleia2 | I'm hoping https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webkit/+bug/1028486 will be fixed by release | 05:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1028486 in webkit (Ubuntu Quantal) "libwebkitgtk-3.0-0 recommending universe codecs" [Medium,Fix committed] | 05:22 |
| knome | i thought micahg was on that already? :) | 05:22 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 05:22 |
| micahg | umm, well, sometime today hopefully :) | 05:23 |
| pleia2 | micahg: you should sleep some time! | 05:23 |
| knome | :) | 05:23 |
| micahg | yeah, shortly :) | 05:24 |
| pleia2 | alright, updated wiki a little and http://xubuntu.org/?p=1352 is prepped for tomorrow | 05:25 |
| * pleia2 sleep & | 05:42 | |
| knome | hihi | 06:00 |
| knome | nighty | 06:00 |
| Unit193 | & causes it to continue. | 06:00 |
| Unit193 | Good night. | 06:00 |
| knome | we should think how we want to spell a3 | 06:05 |
| knome | is it "alpha 3", "Alpha3" or sth else? | 06:05 |
| knome | just saying, | 06:06 |
| knome | . | 06:06 |
| knome | i'm off, see you later | 06:06 |
| astraljava | In the Release Schedule, it says Alpha 3. | 06:32 |
| mr_pouit | knome: no change | 07:40 |
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| knome | mr_pouit, alright! :) | 13:30 |
| micahg | knome: do we need the alternates for alpha3? | 14:35 |
| knome | micahg, if it's possible/not too hard, yeah | 14:41 |
| knome | if not, then not | 14:41 |
| knome | :) | 14:41 |
| knome | or if they're not full of bugs... | 14:41 |
| knome | anyway, bbl -> | 14:41 |
| pleia2 | micahg: I'll add to the release notes that we're not doing an alternate | 15:41 |
| micahg | thanks | 15:51 |
| pleia2 | micahg: will the alternate show up in alpha3 and be broken, or not show up at all? (figuring out how to word the blog post so it's clear) | 15:51 |
| micahg | not show up at all if we don't want it | 16:03 |
| pleia2 | I think not showing up at all would be preferred, I'd rather get "where are the alts?" than "the alt is broken!" (people don't read release notes :)) | 16:05 |
| cody-somerville | Why is alt for Xubuntu broken? | 16:07 |
| pleia2 | gimp fails to install with codec-related dependency issues, if we had time to respin and fiddle with it would be fixed,, but we're running short on time | 16:10 |
| mr_pouit | s/gimp/webkit/, no? | 16:10 |
| pleia2 | er yeah, webkit | 16:11 |
| micahg | yeah, unfortunately, it took me 9 hours to get a successful test build before I uploaded the changed version (which in turn is still building) | 16:18 |
| micahg | and the blacklist in the seeds apparently donm't work | 16:18 |
| micahg | hrm, we should probably have a note on Qt being on the images as well | 16:41 |
| pleia2 | yeah, maybe add it to the line where we're already mentioning the image is oversized (is there a bug report for qt we can link?) | 16:42 |
| micahg | no, but there probably should be /me files | 16:43 |
| micahg | Bug #1029552 | 16:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1029552 in xubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Qt is pulled unnecessarily due to software-center Recommends and ubuntu-sso-client-gtk removal" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1029552 | 16:47 |
| pleia2 | ok, so I'll alter to say: | 16:48 |
| pleia2 | libwebkitgtk-3.0-0 is pulling in gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad and gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg (1028486) and Qt is pulled unnecessarily due to software-center Recommends and ubuntu-sso-client-gtk removal (1029552), so the image larger than normal | 16:48 |
| pleia2 | micahg: accurate? | 16:49 |
| micahg | that should be pulled in | 16:49 |
| pleia2 | er, which? | 16:50 |
| micahg | Qt is pulled in | 16:50 |
| pleia2 | ok, how should I write this? | 16:52 |
| micahg | libwebkitgtk-3.0-0 is pulling in gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad and gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg (1028486) and Qt is pulled in unnecessarily due to software-center Recommends and ubuntu-sso-client-gtk removal (1029552), so the image larger than normal | 16:53 |
| micahg | grrr | 16:53 |
| micahg | libwebkitgtk-3.0-0 is pulling in gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad and gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg (1028486) and Qt is pulled in unnecessarily due to software-center Recommends and ubuntu-sso-client-gtk removal (1029552), so the image is larger than normal | 16:53 |
| pleia2 | oh oh, gotcha | 16:53 |
| pleia2 | so, we are an email away from acquiring @Xubuntu on twitter, thoughts on the change? | 17:48 |
| pleia2 | means we'll have to update our resources to point at the new name, but we'll keep all our followers with the rename | 17:49 |
| micahg | Qt issue is being fixed, should hopefully be in tomorrow's dailies | 17:52 |
| pleia2 | knome: thoughts on twitter rename? | 19:48 |
| knome | pleia2, what? | 19:49 |
| knome | pleia2, oh, right. | 19:49 |
| pleia2 | bkerensa contacted twitter about getting the xubuntu name, it's a dead account set up with a fake email address so they're willing to give it to us | 19:50 |
| knome | pleia2, yes, i suppose that would be cool. can we have a migration time when we'd have both, or do we need to just switch? | 19:50 |
| pleia2 | it would just be an immediate switch, technically it's a "rename" so it's the same account, just name changing | 19:50 |
| knome | pleia2, i see | 19:51 |
| pleia2 | our same account, I mean | 19:51 |
| knome | pleia2, do we have a list where we link to @XubuntuLinux ? | 19:51 |
| pleia2 | "Changing your username will not affect your existing followers, direct messages, or @replies. They will simply see a new username next to your picture when you Tweet. | 19:51 |
| pleia2 | Going forward, other users will need to @mention and message you at your new username. You may find it helpful to post a Tweet letting your followers know that you've selected a new username." | 19:51 |
| knome | that shouldn't be too exhaustive, otoh, external links are.. meh | 19:51 |
| pleia2 | website, wiki and probably a couple blog posts | 19:52 |
| pleia2 | short term the change is a little painful, but I think it's worth it in the long run | 19:52 |
| knome | i like @XubuntuLinux too, but i suppose shorter is better. | 19:53 |
| knome | and we'll not have any confusion if we're @Xubuntu | 19:53 |
| Unit193 | More descriptive. | 19:53 |
| knome | because no copycat/"parker" is not going to take @XubuntuSomethingelse | 19:53 |
| knome | could they stop taking names, or is that out of question? | 19:54 |
| knome | i'm thinking it would be nice if they could block @XubuntuLinux for a while | 19:54 |
| pleia2 | well, we could just re-grab it ;) | 19:54 |
| knome | haha | 19:54 |
| knome | ok | 19:54 |
| knome | let's do it then, if you think re-grabbing is fine | 19:54 |
| pleia2 | ok | 19:54 |
| knome | rename, and those who point to @XubuntuLinux... well, they'll get a message we've moved. | 19:55 |
| pleia2 | http://xubuntu.org/news/quantalalpha3/ | 21:24 |
| pleia2 | it is done :) | 21:24 |
| knome | awesome, thanks | 21:26 |
| Unit193 | Great. | 21:59 |
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