[02:23] :(, looks like we don't really have hope for a respin until tomorrow, armhf won't be ready for another 12 hours [02:24] if that [02:24] and I have to tie up an arm builder for an extra day to get that respin [03:16] * pleia2 does some more tests [04:13] this one is :( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1027461 [04:13] Launchpad bug 1027461 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Xubuntu, installer locked in auto resize" [Undecided,Confirmed] [04:18] hrm, so no desktop images either :( [04:19] * micahg knows nothing about ubiquity [04:19] that one just kills it for resizing, other installs work ok [04:20] ah, release notable then I guess [04:21] Manual partitioning. [04:21] +work? [04:21] didn't try manual [04:25] I'll give it a go, then I need to get back to work on other things :) [04:37] it seems alright with manual partitioning, even resizing partitions in that screen [04:40] ah well I've gone this far, might as well finish the test [04:41] i don't think there's much to tell on the release notes. apart from the bugs you've mentioned. :) [04:41] knome! [04:41] pleia2! [04:41] hello :) [04:41] morning [04:42] should we update the slideshow? [04:42] yes, but not now ;) [04:42] ok [04:42] the thunderbird screen shows us being all "yay 12.04" [04:42] that's probably an item in the doc blueprint [04:42] ok [04:42] or appearance [04:43] I will look around [04:43] i can dig it up [04:43] [xubuntu-team] Review installation slideshow after docs rewrite is done: BLOCKED [04:43] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-q-xubuntu-refresh-offline-documentation [04:43] oh goodness, that [04:44] I made progress while I was on the airplane [04:44] oohh [04:44] in what sense? ;) [04:44] http://dagobah.princessleia.com/Xubuntu/12.10 [04:44] all the grey links are not existing pages [04:44] mm-hmm [04:44] so this is just a copy of what is in the docs index now, I think people can start there [04:45] looks good though [04:45] maybe create that organize-yourself page [04:45] i'll take a shower, brb [04:47] Monthly shower. [04:47] the polar bears don't mind smelly knome [04:54] I'll draft up the alpha3 post for tomorrow on wordpress, knome you wanna update the wiki? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Alpha3 [04:59] pleia2, i suppose i don't know what to update :| [04:59] I think all we have to put is "known issues" [04:59] yup [05:00] but i don't know what those are ;) [05:00] maybe the ones you mentioned [05:00] ah yes, I'm doing blog post now and will include them [05:00] ok [05:00] i can update the wiki based on those [05:00] * pleia2 nods [05:01] what are the bug #s again? [05:02] oh! [05:02] the ISO is oversized. [05:02] 1027461 is the big bad one [05:02] hoping the alt is fixed with the respin tomorrow [05:02] oops, need to do cat stuff, brb [05:02] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Alpha3#Xubuntu-1 [05:05] updated with that big bad one and a mention of being oversized [05:07] mr_pouit, have we uploaded big appearance changes between a2 and a3? [05:14] knome: for the last one, I'd mention that manual resizing works ok [05:15] can you add that along with any details you wish? [05:15] yeah [05:15] thanks [05:22] I'm hoping https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webkit/+bug/1028486 will be fixed by release [05:22] Launchpad bug 1028486 in webkit (Ubuntu Quantal) "libwebkitgtk-3.0-0 recommending universe codecs" [Medium,Fix committed] [05:22] i thought micahg was on that already? :) [05:22] yeah [05:23] umm, well, sometime today hopefully :) [05:23] micahg: you should sleep some time! [05:23] :) [05:24] yeah, shortly :) [05:25] alright, updated wiki a little and http://xubuntu.org/?p=1352 is prepped for tomorrow [05:42] * pleia2 sleep & [06:00] hihi [06:00] nighty [06:00] & causes it to continue. [06:00] Good night. [06:05] we should think how we want to spell a3 [06:05] is it "alpha 3", "Alpha3" or sth else? [06:06] just saying, [06:06] . [06:06] i'm off, see you later [06:32] In the Release Schedule, it says Alpha 3. [07:40] knome: no change === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:30] mr_pouit, alright! :) [14:35] knome: do we need the alternates for alpha3? [14:41] micahg, if it's possible/not too hard, yeah [14:41] if not, then not [14:41] :) [14:41] or if they're not full of bugs... [14:41] anyway, bbl -> [15:41] micahg: I'll add to the release notes that we're not doing an alternate [15:51] thanks [15:51] micahg: will the alternate show up in alpha3 and be broken, or not show up at all? (figuring out how to word the blog post so it's clear) [16:03] not show up at all if we don't want it [16:05] I think not showing up at all would be preferred, I'd rather get "where are the alts?" than "the alt is broken!" (people don't read release notes :)) [16:07] Why is alt for Xubuntu broken? [16:10] gimp fails to install with codec-related dependency issues, if we had time to respin and fiddle with it would be fixed,, but we're running short on time [16:10] s/gimp/webkit/, no? [16:11] er yeah, webkit [16:18] yeah, unfortunately, it took me 9 hours to get a successful test build before I uploaded the changed version (which in turn is still building) [16:18] and the blacklist in the seeds apparently donm't work [16:41] hrm, we should probably have a note on Qt being on the images as well [16:42] yeah, maybe add it to the line where we're already mentioning the image is oversized (is there a bug report for qt we can link?) [16:43] no, but there probably should be /me files [16:47] Bug #1029552 [16:47] Launchpad bug 1029552 in xubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Qt is pulled unnecessarily due to software-center Recommends and ubuntu-sso-client-gtk removal" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1029552 [16:48] ok, so I'll alter to say: [16:48] libwebkitgtk-3.0-0 is pulling in gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad and gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg (1028486) and Qt is pulled unnecessarily due to software-center Recommends and ubuntu-sso-client-gtk removal (1029552), so the image larger than normal [16:49] micahg: accurate? [16:49] that should be pulled in [16:50] er, which? [16:50] Qt is pulled in [16:52] ok, how should I write this? [16:53] libwebkitgtk-3.0-0 is pulling in gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad and gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg (1028486) and Qt is pulled in unnecessarily due to software-center Recommends and ubuntu-sso-client-gtk removal (1029552), so the image larger than normal [16:53] grrr [16:53] libwebkitgtk-3.0-0 is pulling in gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad and gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg (1028486) and Qt is pulled in unnecessarily due to software-center Recommends and ubuntu-sso-client-gtk removal (1029552), so the image is larger than normal [16:53] oh oh, gotcha [17:48] so, we are an email away from acquiring @Xubuntu on twitter, thoughts on the change? [17:49] means we'll have to update our resources to point at the new name, but we'll keep all our followers with the rename [17:52] Qt issue is being fixed, should hopefully be in tomorrow's dailies [19:48] knome: thoughts on twitter rename? [19:49] pleia2, what? [19:49] pleia2, oh, right. [19:50] bkerensa contacted twitter about getting the xubuntu name, it's a dead account set up with a fake email address so they're willing to give it to us [19:50] pleia2, yes, i suppose that would be cool. can we have a migration time when we'd have both, or do we need to just switch? [19:50] it would just be an immediate switch, technically it's a "rename" so it's the same account, just name changing [19:51] pleia2, i see [19:51] our same account, I mean [19:51] pleia2, do we have a list where we link to @XubuntuLinux ? [19:51] "Changing your username will not affect your existing followers, direct messages, or @replies. They will simply see a new username next to your picture when you Tweet. [19:51] Going forward, other users will need to @mention and message you at your new username. You may find it helpful to post a Tweet letting your followers know that you've selected a new username." [19:51] that shouldn't be too exhaustive, otoh, external links are.. meh [19:52] website, wiki and probably a couple blog posts [19:52] short term the change is a little painful, but I think it's worth it in the long run [19:53] i like @XubuntuLinux too, but i suppose shorter is better. [19:53] and we'll not have any confusion if we're @Xubuntu [19:53] More descriptive. [19:53] because no copycat/"parker" is not going to take @XubuntuSomethingelse [19:54] could they stop taking names, or is that out of question? [19:54] i'm thinking it would be nice if they could block @XubuntuLinux for a while [19:54] well, we could just re-grab it ;) [19:54] haha [19:54] ok [19:54] let's do it then, if you think re-grabbing is fine [19:54] ok [19:55] rename, and those who point to @XubuntuLinux... well, they'll get a message we've moved. [21:24] http://xubuntu.org/news/quantalalpha3/ [21:24] it is done :) [21:26] awesome, thanks [21:59] Great.