=== Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [05:23] * Kilos greets ubuntu-za [05:51] morning [05:51] hi Squirm === SmilyBorg_w is now known as SmilyBorg [06:03] hi SmilyBorg [06:03] Hi there [06:24] Morning, to all the Sys.Admins. Happy Sys.admin Day. [06:25] * Kilos cries [06:25] me no sysadmin [06:25] * Kilos greets sakhi [07:04] hi inetpro [08:28] good morning all! happy friday :) [08:28] morning sflr [08:34] inetpro, you awake yet? [09:42] hi jrgns [09:42] hey Kilos [09:42] welcome to ubuntu-za [09:42] thnx [09:42] first time here? [09:44] iirc, yes [09:44] i'm trying to get back onto irc [09:44] i've been neglecting it [09:44] seems a bit quiet :P [09:45] guys are very busy at work but when someone has problems one of them will make time to help [09:47] kewl [09:47] what do you do that you have time to chat? [09:47] are you using ubuntu jrgns [09:47] ? [09:48] xubuntu at the mo [09:48] ah [09:49] unitiy is counter productive to my workflow [09:49] oh my [09:52] you? [09:54] im still on maverick [09:55] 10.10 but will try unity next week sometime [09:58] fun and games [09:59] i'm using keyboard shortcuts leftover from my slackware days that uses the windows key [09:59] doesn't work well with unity [09:59] brb [10:04] hmmmm [10:17] * inetpro streches his self [10:17] Kilos: good day [10:17] Maaz: what's for lunch? [10:17] inetpro: Coffee should be enough... [10:18] eish! [10:18] lol dag boetie [10:18] he's stingy again!? [10:18] o/ [10:18] hi oom Kilos, oom inetpro [10:18] :P [10:18] lo nuvolari [10:18] Happy SysAdmin Day to everyone! [10:18] * nuvolari hol dat die stof spat [10:19] hello inetpro [10:19] yeah... our sysadmin took leave today and guess what? our network goes haywire [10:19] eish [10:20] hi jrgns [10:20] wb [10:20] oh hi jrgns [10:20] * nuvolari don't recall seeing jrgns before :P [10:21] ahh... then welcome jrgns [10:21] scroll back nuvolari and read his story [10:21] I thought that I'd seen him before [10:21] another non unity fan [10:22] inetpro: you know me from twitter / g+ [10:22] must have been on twitter and or floss.pro [10:22] welcome to the anti-unity club [10:22] exactly :-) [10:22] lol, how big's the club? [10:22] me, for one [10:22] schweet [10:22] not sure about the rest [10:22] what do you use? [10:22] or do you just use and hate it [10:23] * inetpro goes on search for some food [10:23] ooh! [10:23] nice jrgns, I'm in the xubuntu club too [10:23] (normal ubuntu base, but I added xubuntu and use xfce) [10:23] schweet [10:23] 4.10 [10:23] i must say, it's much easier to get it working as i like it than it was with gnome [10:24] that usually took me ages. [10:24] I like gnome3 though, but miles slower than xfce [10:26] I've used Fluxbox since before Unity; I missed the Unity drama completely. [10:27] ooh nice :> I used to use openbox, but configuring took just a bit too long :P [10:27] and then when I have loads of time again... I'll do xmonad [10:29] ack, need to get back to work [10:29] chat to you all laterz [10:29] cheers [10:30] hmm, what really would rock my boat is IRC in google+ [10:36] confluency, havent you even tried unity? [10:37] later nuvolari have a good day [11:04] I have, briefly. === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [11:15] ah [11:16] Hello Kilos [11:16] hiya Trixar_za === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [12:01] good afternoon! [12:02] Maaz: coffee on [12:02] hi charl [12:02] * Maaz washes some mugs [12:02] hi Kilos [12:02] Maaz, coffee please [12:02] Kilos: Alrighty [12:02] i just ate four museli buns and i am like "me gusta" [12:03] just need some coffee now [12:03] lol [12:03] me mucho gusta [12:06] Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos! [12:06] Maaz, danke [12:06] Bitteschön [12:15] Maaz: thanks [12:15] charl: Okay :-) [12:39] silent in here today, how's it going with you ballies [12:43] wow! [12:43] I see Firefox 15 is coming out with a built-in PDF viewer [12:43] it's about time :) [12:45] you can even try it by installing the addon on FF 14 [12:45] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/pdfjs/ [12:45] nice! [12:46] now i just wish we could find a built-in flash alternative... [12:46] alternative flash player i mean [12:46] am not so sure whether I really like it though [12:46] not good, or just slow? [12:46] got so used to downloading PDF files separately and viewing with Okular [12:46] yeah, but it's handy having it right there [12:46] i often use google's web viewer [12:46] true [12:46] quick view or whatever [12:47] i'm concerned to just open pdfs using adobe's acrobat reader on my work pc [12:47] because i don't trust adobe's reader... you can have embedded scripts that execute without warnings [12:47] there is a way to disable it but last i heard that could also be circumvented [12:48] this one is not bad [12:48] here's a talk about it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfze8YGNvhQ [12:53] eish! [12:54] * inetpro don't like the ever more bulky adobe products [12:54] like why do we even need it? [12:54] why not just have everything in HTML? [12:55] adobe is very slow [12:55] practically everything they make [12:55] at the same time I can't say that HTML is a very optimal format [12:55] the problem used to be fonts [12:55] pdf has the ability to include the original fonts used [12:55] so the presentation was more accurate - particularlly mattered for printed material [12:56] especially when the spacing matters [12:56] but now with css3 fonts that is also no longer an obstacle [12:56] i actually don't know what the deal is with pdfs anymore and why we need them in this day and age [12:56] exactly [12:56] believe it or not, microsoft actually has its own alternative to pdf [12:57] and that is? [12:57] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_XML_Paper_Specification [12:57] sorry was just getting the link [12:57] ahh [12:57] there is a printer tool in windows 7 similar to what you have on linux but that generates xps instead of pdfs [12:57] hmm... [12:59] if only ECMA-388 was a true international and open standard [12:59] way to much controversy there [13:00] the ecma has been used by microsoft a number of times for strategic reasons [13:00] microsoft isn't well known to give anything away for free without alterior motives [13:00] at least Okular, the document viewer of the KDE project, can display XPS documents [13:01] nice [13:02] the other controversial format from microsoft is OpenXML http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_Open_XML [13:02] it's standardised as ECMA-376 [13:03] seems like it's also standardised as ISO/IEC 29500 [13:03] looked like they were just trying to p*ss on OpenDocument with that [13:06] Maaz: coffee please [13:06] charl: There isn't a pot on [13:06] Maaz: coffee on [13:06] * Maaz puts the kettle on [13:07] in unrelated news, the all-round best voip client i found as an alternative to skype that actually runs on linux must be ekiga [13:07] http://ekiga.org/ [13:07] my only complaint is insane latency [13:08] hmmm [13:10] Coffee's ready for charl! [13:10] sigh, everytime i want to go to a new window or workspace i go to he top left but....Oh I'm on windows :P [13:19] zeref_work: you used to gnome3? [13:23] yep [13:23] campus comps are windowz [13:23] that's probably (almost) everywhere the case [13:24] just drank what i call "office beer" [13:24] it's bavaria wit 0% alcohol [13:26] pic or it didn't happen: http://i.imgur.com/K7lAZ.jpg [13:28] that stuff is meh [13:28] i call BS [13:29] it's a pretty decent witbier [13:30] i am extremely fed up with microsoft's exfat system on windows 7 [13:31] if anything happens and the drive does not get unmounted properly, it refuses to let me write to it [13:32] lock down [13:32] only solution seems to be to copy all data from it and then reformat [13:32] lock down? [13:34] i used to have that issue. [13:36] and? [13:36] 1 sec [13:39] could not read or write to the drive, felt like dows was telling me go away, and saying "i'm keeping this data for myself" [13:40] btw since you use irssi, to you use mpd+ncmpcpp [13:43] nope, what's that? [13:44] Maaz: google mpd+ncmpcpp [13:44] charl: "Ncmpcpp - ncmpc++ mpd client" http://unkart.ovh.org/ncmpcpp/ :: "Ncmpcpp - ArchWiki" https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ncmpcpp :: "A simple guide to set up mpd with ncmpcpp ~ Linux and Life" http://www.linuxandlife.com/2012/01/simple-guide-to-set-up-mpd-with-ncmpcpp.html :: "[SOLVED]mpd-ncmpcpp or any other good CLI player help (Page 1 ..." http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/20877/solvedmpdncmpcpp-or-any-other-good-cli-playe [13:44] ah a music player thing? [13:44] i only use grooveshark for music [13:45] i should actually try spotify at some point [13:50] * zeref_work googles grooveshark [13:54] awww, website blocked [13:55] works for me zeref_work [13:56] http://mybroadband.co.za/news/quick-news/55905-microsoft-kicks-off-new-reality-tv-show.html [13:56] Yes Microsoft, we would love to watch programmers sit all day and compete. [13:56] I take it they're not getting enough enthusiastic people to work there to they have to make a reality show -sigh- [13:58] sflr: campus blocks it. [13:58] that show would be boring [13:58] oh. sorry. [13:59] what would be fun if they tested the contestants like they did in the film, the social network :-D [14:00] who wants to work for microsoft in any case [14:00] i would rather work for google or oracle [14:00] or facebook even [14:01] heck i would rather work for apple [14:01] lol [14:01] MWEB slashes data pricing with 50% http://www.news24.com/SciTech/News/MWEB-slashes-data-pricing-20120727 [14:02] that reality show idea is great. i must do it in our office :) [14:02] wait, why are they only 4 [14:04] 1 of them gets a job at Microsoft [14:04] "pits four SQL Server programmers against one another." Zzzzz... [14:05] 10mbps dsl for 135 euro... ouch [14:05] my stomach hurts [14:06] i wonder who is actually going to pay that [14:08] how bout vodacoms R5000 per GiG special for roaming for the games in london [14:09] charl that is 50% off. lol [14:09] zeref_work: that was a shocker. haha [14:09] ouch now that hurts even more [14:11] i don't know why the heck i am even watching this sh*t but i am watching the first episode [14:11] http://content5.catalog.video.msn.com/e2/ds/c05d6c00-650e-4602-ad56-d3723d4df0d0.mp4 [14:12] sflr: i lol'ed hard when i saw that [14:12] nornal price is R17500 [14:12] wtf [14:13] charl is it any good? [14:13] zeref_work: are you serious? probably they have 10 users using it. [14:15] probably, that like a plane ticket back [14:16] just use free wifi and skype. lol. who needs roaming these days? [14:17] sflr: it's a load of absolute cr4p [14:18] i can imagine charl. they should've hired a PR agency if they want to pull a reality show stunt. [14:19] you can fly to and from london for about $1K US [14:19] there are tickets for well under that... $800 or so as well [14:19] that's well under 10K ZAR and that's a return ticket [14:38] hmm... to many distractions today [14:38] inetpro: it's friday, grab a beer [14:38] eh [14:39] i am going for my second one, i will drink this one on you [14:39] lemme make a pic first [14:39] haha [14:41] http://i.imgur.com/upquf.jpg [14:41] http://i.imgur.com/ozdXA.jpg [14:42] warsteiner... ein sehr schöne bier! [14:44] ja, so lecker! [14:55] me gusta [14:55] now i go home, bbl [14:59] does charl do anything other than browse or upload images to imgur? [14:59] cause that's all I ever see him doing [15:01] superfly: I wonder [15:02] hehe [15:02] he's an awful lot of hot air [15:02] he can take as many pics of a beer as he wants, still means nothing [15:02] hes still young without many responsibilities [15:03] will grow up still [15:04] one day [15:17] huurrrmm [15:19] nee kyk! nou gaan ek huistoe [15:28] lol === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [16:32] die week was heeltemal te lank [16:32] elke week is [16:32] behalwe as jy op verlof is [16:33] heh [16:33] as ons persepsie van tyd nie so verwronge was nie [16:45] evening all [16:48] hi magespawn [16:49] where were you all day? [16:49] out on the road doing a transfer [16:55] ah [16:59] working late at the shop to catch up [16:59] ok [16:59] so busy all round [17:00] what is up in ubuntu land? [17:00] the dvb-t2 transmissions are awesome === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [17:04] Kerbero: you watching the olympics ? [17:05] well [17:05] nes on 2 [17:05] *news [17:05] free to air only has SABC [17:06] it has been almost a year since i watched any tv at home [17:07] good evening [17:07] Maaz: coffee on [17:07] * Maaz puts the kettle on [17:07] evening charl [17:10] out of here for now, later all [17:11] Coffee's ready for charl! [17:15] hi mage [17:15] Maaz: thanks [17:15] charl: Okay :-) [17:34] yo theblaze [17:35] Hi kilos [17:35] How's it going here [17:35] hi everyone '< [17:35] quiet mostly [17:35] hi Cantide [17:35] Cool [17:35] dont forget cnastudy weekends too hey [17:35] haha [17:35] canstudy [17:36] especially on weekends ._. [17:36] but i must watch the rugby tomorrow [17:36] >_> [17:36] ya [17:36] Discovered Reddit a few weeks ago so that's why I wasn't on lol [17:36] ah [17:37] Yeah [17:47] Cantide, Go Sharks [17:47] yeah!! [17:47] * Cantide is not sure if anyone here is supporting the Stormers >_> [17:47] most here dont watch sport [17:48] * Cantide assumed so [17:48] i watched the chiefs beat the crusaders today too [17:48] good game [17:48] aha [17:48] yeah [17:48] Carter seemed a bit out of form [17:48] from the little i saw [17:48] yeah [17:48] i thought the Crusaders would win [17:49] so did everyone [17:49] but they've won their share of Super Rugby already :p [17:49] yeah [17:50] hey you clever with hardware [17:51] apart from 4 extra pins what the diffs between a 20 pin power connecter and a 24 pin [17:51] whats in those extra 4 pins [17:51] >_> [17:51] what makes you think i'm good with hardware? haha [17:51] hmm [17:52] i used to know this... [17:52] hmm [17:52] maybe the chat about thermal paste [17:52] or is google clever and you good at googling [17:54] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATX#Power_supply [17:54] ty [17:54] wikipedia is clever [17:54] but maybe you have to read that whole page to really know [17:54] chat about thermal paste? i think i have forgotten ._. [17:55] last night man [17:55] wasnt it you? [17:55] oh my [17:56] maybe charl and Kerbero [17:56] it wasn't me :p [17:56] hehe [17:56] maybe ^^ [17:57] ok what do you call the 20 pin supply [17:58] something to do with the ATX version [17:58] i think 24 pins were introduced in version 2.0 [17:59] tell me how to use wikipedia plse [17:59] i have a 20 pin but mb needs 24 pin [17:59] maybe i can bridge some connections [18:00] yeah, here it is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATX#ATX12V_2.0 [18:00] oh, i have no idea about that [18:00] first you'd need to know what voltage those 4 pins are [18:00] then wire it accordingly [18:00] i'd recommend getting a newer PSU instead though :-S [18:00] wouldn't want to fry your board [18:02] shouldnt, those last 4 pins are 3 different voltages and a common [18:02] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATX#Power_supply [18:03] they are the bottom 4 there [18:03] 11, 12, 23 and 24 [18:03] the voltages are also listed [18:03] yes i see that on the first link [18:04] hi [18:04] hiya charl [18:04] hi Kilos [18:05] no sorry know nothing about thermal paste [18:05] * Cantide thinks that Kilos dreams of thermal paste and IRC [18:05] lol yeah [18:05] lol [18:09] w000t http://www.smps.us/20-to-24pin-atx.html [18:09] i go read [18:14] looks like i can use the 20 pin to check if the mb works [18:14] the extra 4 pins are for more current drain pcs [18:15] yeah [18:16] come to think of it, i have used a 20 pin connector on a 24 pin board before [18:17] see why didnt you think about that before [18:18] i thought you needed 24-pin power :p [18:20] the mb is 24 pin and my psu is 20 pin [18:20] so i can test mb with it [18:20] yay [18:21] yo superfly [18:21] hi Kilos [18:32] bbl [19:06] evening all\ [19:39] hi oom Kilos [19:39] hi nuvolari [19:39] het net probeer scharl bel [19:39] voicemail [20:06] night all , sleep tight [20:07] uh oh fly connection crashed [20:32] * inetpro wonders what happened with superfly [20:33] wb superfly [20:33] -_- datacentre connectivity issues [20:34] eish! [20:41] hi inetpro [20:41] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yO7MWuJ7zLA [20:41] :D [20:42] a japanese in southern bavaria yodeling with chickens [20:42] srsly [20:58] nn all [21:00] my case in point [21:04] lol [21:09] * not_found missed something :p [21:15] ...oh and hi superfly and inetpro :) [21:15] eh not_found [21:16] * inetpro is about to go hit the sack [21:16] hi not_found [21:16] * superfly is also heading off [21:16] inetpro: enjoy (me doing the nightshift thing) [21:16] superfly: also enjoy :) [21:16] not_found: hold the fort [21:16] lol [21:16] k [21:17] good night everyone [21:19]