[00:01] <usr13> aeiaya: Reboot the computer and start fresh.
[00:01] <usr13> aeiaya: then do sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:02] <usr13> aeiaya: Come back and we will help.
[00:02] <Garrett93> So, ubuntu has booted, Try Ubuntu or Install Ubuntu?
[00:02] <Jagst3r15> anyone know whats up, my resoltuion just crapped out on me. its at like 640 by 480 and unity 3d isnt working
[00:03] <usr13> Jagst3r15:  Do you have any clue as to what may have caused it?
[00:03] <Jagst3r15> i can't even select a different resoliton
[00:03] <WaffleScratch> Can I replace my windows server with Active Directory with a linux server? its only a file server too
[00:03] <romy420> Garrett93 ... install
[00:03] <Jagst3r15> alot of things usr13
[00:03] <Garrett93> install to access this gparted thing?
[00:03] <Jagst3r15> ive been playing around with bumblebee and my graphics
[00:03] <usr13> Jagst3r15: Can you list them?
[00:03] <Jagst3r15> but
[00:03] <christopherbull> beandog: it's still prompting this user for a password with sudo
[00:03] <romy420> yes
[00:03] <Jagst3r15> I think the issue was with desura
[00:04] <Jagst3r15> I installed desura and then I kept getting these errors
[00:04] <Jagst3r15> then unity died and i logged out
[00:04] <beandog> christopherbull: hmm, maybe that's not right then.  -_-  just man sudo, it's in there somewhere :)
[00:04] <Jagst3r15> then logged in and then my resoltuion is at 604 by 480
[00:04] <usr13> Jagst3r15: errors ___________ ?
[00:04] <ceege> yes, waffleScratch. Samba can do AD
[00:04] <christopherbull> beandog: sweet :D
[00:04] <Jagst3r15> usr13 im sorry i don't remember a specific error
[00:05] <Garrett93> I assume "something else"
[00:05] <Jagst3r15> can't I reset unity or something?
[00:05] <usr13> Jagst3r15: I'm sorry, I don't have any specific advise  :)
[00:05] <beandog> christopherbull: you're probably better off googling sudo examples
[00:05] <WaffleScratch> yay ii'm going to look into this to save all the monies :D
[00:05] <MonkeyDust> Jagst3r15  try unity --reset
[00:05] <christopherbull> beandog: ah I think it takes a group name, not a username perhaps
[00:05] <christopherbull> http://askubuntu.com/questions/135821/can-i-run-sudo-without-entering-a-password
[00:06] <usr13> Jagst3r15: grep Driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit #And send us resulting URL.
[00:07] <Garrett93> i'm onto the installation type window, I do see the existing partition layout, including the 200gb free space, this is where I've gotten by myself and managed to destroy windows both times
[00:07] <Garrett93> on the free space bit, my options are add... and revert
[00:08] <MonkeyDust> Garrett93  in a terminal, type sudo fdisk -l|pastebinit and paste the url here
[00:09] <Jagst3r15_> monkeydust I reset it, then it said compiz has failed or something
[00:11] <romy420> gGarrett93, choose 'Install them side by side' when asked how to use the hard drive
[00:11] <Zeerover_the_gre> Hello
[00:12] <Zeerover_the_gre> I am 12 years old and I'm trying linux for the first time. Is there anything i should know?
[00:12] <usr13> Zeerover_the_gre: Lots! :)
[00:12] <Zeerover_the_gre> Linux Distrobution: Pinguy 11.04 (Based off of Ubuntu 11.4) i just installed some updates
[00:12] <Garrett93> MonkeyDust, it says pastebinit is not currently installed
[00:13] <Zeerover_the_gre> usr13 like how much?
[00:13] <MonkeyDust> Garrett93  simply type sudo apt-get install pastebin
[00:13] <Nightray> Hello there!
[00:13] <MonkeyDust> Zeerover_the_gre  pinguy is not supported here
[00:13] <Zeerover_the_gre> Just ubuntu?
[00:14] <Nightray> I have noobish question about installation an ubuntu OS on my new computer
[00:14] <Nightray> anyone who wants to help?
[00:14] <Zeerover_the_gre> But Pinguy is based off of ubuntu so much that if i looked at the Kernal its all Debian and Ubuntu codes
[00:14] <Zeerover_the_gre> Ask away nightray
[00:15] <Zeerover_the_gre> Nightray, whats the question?
[00:15] <Garrett93> I did a sudo apt-get install pastebinvand it says " E: unable to locate package pastebin "
[00:15] <usr13> Zeerover_the_gre: We suggest you install Ubuntu.
[00:15] <Jagst3r15_> I think I have to reinstall ubuntu, crap
[00:15] <Nightray> I just bought a new computer with 1TB HDD and 90GB SSD. SSD i all on Windows (games etc.. sorry ;p) but I have to make some partitions for Linux and I don't know what partitions I need and with what sizes
[00:16] <MonkeyDust> Jagst3r15_  run it off a live cd or usb
[00:16] <Garrett93> Nightray, welcome to the club
[00:16] <glitsj16> Garrett93: the package is called 'pastebinit'
[00:16] <usr13> Jagst3r15: grep Driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit #And send us resulting URL.
[00:16] <Garrett93> Same error for pastebinit
[00:16] <usr13> Jagst3r15_: We can help if you give us some information.....
[00:17] <Nightray> I want to give 250 GB from that 1TB for linux
[00:17] <Zeerover_the_gre> thats a good idea
[00:17] <Jagst3r15_> brb i cant even open the terminal
[00:17] <Zeerover_the_gre> i only have 75gb for Pinguy (a Linux distro based off of Ubuntu)
[00:18] <glitsj16> Garrett93: you might need to refresh your package manager .. sudo apt-get update .. and try again when that finishes
[00:18] <Zeerover_the_gre> How do i look at my Kernel?
[00:18] <usr13> Zeerover_the_gre: uname -r
[00:18] <romy420> Garrett93, u just booted from cd and then choose 'install'. is this right?
[00:19] <Zeerover_the_gre> my name was suppost to be Zeerover the great 12 yr old linux user
[00:19] <Zeerover_the_gre> but it didnt fit
[00:19] <Zeerover_the_gre> sudo apt-get is my favorite tool on linux
[00:19] <Garrett93> Romy, yes, i have done so several times, and destroyed a windows partition twice after the run along side windows part didn't work
[00:21] <romy420> how exactly did it not work?
[00:21] <Nightray> basicly, if I have an 8GB ram do I need swap?
[00:21] <Garrett93> Glits, after running the sudo update, and trying install pastebinit again, i still get the "unable to locate package pastebinit" error
[00:22] <Miguelito> If anyone has Virtualbox knowledge and would like to help would you msg me - I dont want to sidetrack the channel
[00:22] <romy420> also, if you are in that installation environment ... apt will probably not work here
[00:22] <Garrett93> Romy, after clicking the run along side windows, it appeared to run scripts for about 30 seconds, then it produced a message that said "remove boot media and press enter (or something similar)" and when I hit enter it turned off the computer
[00:23] <Garrett93> Upon turning back on the computer there was no sign of ubuntu, windows booted as it normally would
[00:23] <Zeerover_the_gre> I just got pidgin and now im installing Gfire
[00:23] <Zeerover_the_gre> and this is my first day
[00:23] <Garrett93> after that I started to play with partitions, and screwed everything up
[00:24] <romy420> Garrett, that's strange ... then u could manually partition
[00:24] <Garrett93> Yes, manually partition, that's what i'd like to do
[00:25] <Garrett93> should i hit Install Ubuntu again to get back to that step
[00:25] <romy420> yes
[00:26] <Skyland_Hacker> can i ask her.??
[00:26] <Miguelito> Whats your question Skyland_Hacker
[00:26] <Garrett93> Okay, on the screen with the three options, install ubuntu along side windows 7, replace windows 7 with ubuntu (no), and something else
[00:27] <Zeerover_the_gre> I love linux
[00:27] <romy420> Specify partitions manually
[00:27] <Zeerover_the_gre> and ive only been using it for 1 day as i said
[00:27] <Garrett93> should i try the along side option again, or something else
[00:27] <Garrett93> that'd be something else, right
[00:28] <bazhang> !ot | Zeerover_the_gre
[00:28] <usr13> Zeerover_the_gre: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:28] <Zeerover_the_gre> Thanks usr13
[00:28] <romy420> Garrett93, which ubuntu version do u have there? is this 12.04?
[00:28] <usr13> Zeerover_the_gre: NP
[00:28] <Garrett93> Yes 12.04
[00:28] <Zeerover_the_gre> how do i go to it though
[00:28] <Zeerover_the_gre> i just started as i said
[00:28] <usr13> Zeerover_the_gre: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:29] <romy420> ok ... then it's 'something else' yes
[00:29] <Skyland_Hacker> can i ask.?
[00:29] <usr13> yes
[00:29] <romy420> now u hsould see your partition table and some part of it marked as free or something like that
[00:29] <Garrett93> Okay, on the installation type menu, there is the 200 gig free space option
[00:30] <usr13> Skyland_Hacker: If it is a question about Ubuntu, yes.
[00:30] <romy420> yeah, activate that and then (from memory) it's 'add' or so
[00:30] <Skyland_Hacker> i wanna install ubuntu beside windows
[00:30] <Skyland_Hacker> Bisakan saya menginstall unbuntu bersamaan dengan windows.?
[00:31] <usr13> smf////
[00:31] <Skyland_Hacker> How to install ubuntu with windows
[00:31] <Zeerover_the_gre> alright usr13 thanks for the help i can now go in and out of Ubuntu offtopic
[00:32] <Garrett93> yes, add, provides the options, Type for new partition, Primary or logical, partition size in MB, location for new partition (beginning or end), use as (format), and mount point (options)
[00:32] <usr13> Skyland_Hacker: Just start the install and it will offer options that will provide for a DualBoot system.
[00:32] <Skyland_Hacker> oh, like that
[00:32] <Skyland_Hacker> can i see the picture how to install ubuntu with windows.?
[00:33] <romy420> here's that logical partition thing so choose that and set the size so that around your amount of ram is left free
[00:33] <usr13> Skyland_Hacker: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[00:33] <Skyland_Hacker> ohhh
[00:33] <Skyland_Hacker> For offtopic join #Deface-Zone
[00:33] <romy420> format to 'ext4' and mount point '/'
[00:34] <bazhang> Skyland_Hacker, dont advertise here
[00:34] <Skyland_Hacker> ok sorry
[00:34] <Skyland_Hacker> Anyone have a video for install ubuntu with windows.?
[00:34] <usr13> no
[00:34] <romy420> usr13, automatic dual boot configuration crashed
[00:34] <bazhang> Skyland_Hacker, youtube.com
[00:35] <romy420> forget that :)
[00:35] <Skyland_Hacker> can you help me with teamviewer.?
[00:36] <Garrett93> okie, so I have the first partition made, logical, 215gb, (with 8gb left free space), ext4 and mount point /
[00:37] <Skyland_Hacker> i dont understand about that
[00:37] <romy420> ok ... select the rest -> add -> make it as type 'swap'
[00:37] <romy420> nomount point
[00:37] <Skyland_Hacker> I just understand drive C: D: E:
[00:37] <Skyland_Hacker> no about ext sda
[00:37] <bazhang> !ot | Skyland_Hacker
[00:37] <Garrett93> Romy, done
[00:38] <romy420> Skyland_Hacker then u are no hacker :P
[00:38] <Skyland_Hacker> im hacker from skylandhacker.net
[00:38] <usr13> Skyland_Hacker: So you need to expand your understanding to include sda1 sda2 sda3 etc...
[00:38] <Jagst3r15> usr13 sorry what should I do with the log?
[00:38] <usr13> Jagst3r15: grep Driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:39] <usr13> Jagst3r15: In other words, look at it.
[00:39] <brophat> I am upgrading to 12.04 using the alternate CD, and I chose not to use the internet during the upgrade but it is getting 2036 files frm the internet anyway
[00:39] <Zeerover_the_gre> usr13 is there any aplications i should install to help me (as a beginner) to understand linux more
[00:39] <Garrett93> Romy, next should I hit install now
[00:39] <romy420> Garrett93, now make sure that hte boot loader will be installed in /dev/sda (if that is your hard drive) and then 'Install Now'
[00:39] <usr13> Zeerover_the_gre: no
[00:39] <bazhang> !manual | Zeerover_the_gre have a read
[00:39] <Jagst3r15> usr13 nothing seems amiss
[00:39] <brophat> if it needs to get those files anyway then why am I using a CD? bwahahahaha
[00:39] <bazhang> !rute | Zeerover_the_gre and this
[00:40] <Garrett93> Yes, it does say that is the case
[00:40] <usr13> Jagst3r15: grep Driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log |pastebinit #And send us the resulting URL.
[00:40] <Zeerover_the_gre> Thanks ubottu, i guess. i dont quite understand what you just said though
[00:41] <bazhang> Zeerover_the_gre, read those links.
[00:41] <romy420> ok ... this should suffice ... and it will take longer than 30secs .. ottherwise something is really wrong
[00:41] <Garrett93> crossing fingers, saying a quick prayer, and pressing install now
[00:41] <romy420> :)
[00:41] <romy420> good luck
[00:42] <Jagst3r15> usr13 is this it http://pastebin.com/ruUBwWZ3
[00:43] <brophat> can anyone explain why it is downloading files from the internet when I am using the alternate CD to upgrade. Isn't everything on the CD?
[00:43] <Garrett93> Romy, It appears to have worked, following the instructions...location / username etc
[00:43] <romy420> Garrett93, yes it asks u these questions while in the background ubuntu is being installed
[00:45] <usr13> Jagst3r15: Do you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[00:45] <Jagst3r15> usr13 let me see
[00:45] <Garrett93> It appears to be doing so, now, once it completes, if I can still boot windows, I may throw a party i'll be excited. I spent hours trying this before seeking help here
[00:45] <usr13> Jagst3r15: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf. /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[00:46] <amblin> Anyone using the Firefox-Next PPA and Google Plus having problems with the notification widget(red box with a number) never reseting to zero after reading notifications?
[00:46] <Jagst3r15> usr13 http://pastebin.com/KqukgYh6
[00:47] <usr13> Jagst3r15: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf. /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[00:48] <usr13> Jagst3r15: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[00:48] <romy420> Garrett93, i hope it will but now it looks it works, strange though that the automatic version would break it, never seen this and many ppl use dual boot
[00:48] <usr13> Jagst3r15: Log out and back in again.
[00:49] <Jagst3r15> k
[00:49] <Jagst3r15> brb
[00:49] <usr13> Ok
[00:50] <Jagst3r15> usr13 it worked =)
[00:50] <Jagst3r15> thank you
[00:50] <usr13> NP
[00:50] <Jagst3r15> what did that do exactly by the way
[00:51] <Jagst3r15> like reset the files?
[00:51] <usr13> Jagst3r15: Got rid of the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[00:51] <Garrett93> I have a strange feeling it could have been user error, romy, but this has certainly been most successful
[00:51] <Jagst3r15> ah
[00:52] <Jagst3r15> usr13 what put that there, bumblebee?
[00:52] <romy420> yeah, there is a lot to learn once u start with linux :)
[00:52] <usr13> Jagst3r15: No, it was created by nvidia-xconfig
[00:54] <Garrett93> Yes, it is what my c++ professor will be using during lectures, so I wanted it too just for familiarity
[00:55] <wolfgang_> How do i set up my n64 controller via usb adapter to use on ubuntu 12.04
[00:56] <wolfgang_> Hello?
[00:57] <wolfgang_> 1543 people all afk
[00:57] <Garrett93> Romy, the install finished, it is now rebooting
[00:57] <wolfgang_> How do i set up my n64 controller via usb adapter to use on ubuntu 12.04
[00:57] <Jagst3r15> usr13 I think deleting those files disable glxspheres
[00:58] <bazhang> wolfgang_, this is for the wine app? ask for support in #winehq as I said before
[00:59] <wolfgang_> bazhang, no i thought the wine app would help me do it
[01:00] <Phoenixz> I have Ubunti 11.10 installed on a SATA HD, today I got a SSD drive, yay, installed kubuntu 12.04, and lightning fast, cool.. BUT.. I cant boot both SSD and my old HD, it starts from HD. When both are connected, BIOS won't come up and if I boot from SSD, then connect SATA drive, I can see /dev/sdb1, NOT /dev/sdb2, and it only contains EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi
[01:00] <romy420> Garrett93, good, grub should offer both systems in boot menu now
[01:00] <Garrett93> Romy, both windows and ubuntu now successful boot. Can't thank you enough
[01:00] <Phoenixz> Now, I guess this is the new EFI (successor to BIOS, right?) thing, but how can I mount my old drive? How can I get my SATA HD to work together with my new SSD drive?
[01:00] <romy420> i'mglad i could help :)
[01:01] <Garrett93> I'm glad you could too
[01:01] <wolfgang_> bazhang, How do i do it?
[01:02] <Garrett93> Very successful, thanks again Romy, have a good one
[01:02]  * Garrett93 high fives romy for the help
[01:02] <romy420> thank u :)
[01:03] <escott> Phoenixz, is your system a bios system?
[01:04] <WaffleScratch> somewhere in the efi bios you should be able to select a first boot hd
[01:04] <wolfgang_> well i gota go
[01:07] <Phoenixz> escott: I think so, though it does support the EFI that is on my SATA HD, obviously, because I used it for quite some time
[01:07] <Phoenixz> escott: Just to avoid some confusion.. EFI is successor to BIOS, IE, if my install is EFI, BIOS wont be able to handle it?
[01:07] <escott> Phoenixz, by definition a bios system cannot boot efi
[01:07] <escott> Phoenixz, if your system is an EFI system it might (but is not required to) have a bios emulation mode
[01:08] <gdea73> I'm having trouble connecting my iPhone 4 (iOS 5.1.1) to my laptop running Ubuntu 10.10; I received the error "Unhandled Lockdown error (-4)"
[01:08] <brophat> why is my upgrade using the alternate CD needing to download files/
[01:08] <HaltingState> How do i remove the jiggle animation when minimzing/unminizing window
[01:09] <gdea73> I tried running the commands as assessed here (http://goo.gl/oHYTy); however, I received the message "idevicepair: command not found."
[01:09] <escott> !ccsm | HaltingState
[01:09] <Phoenixz> escott: Well, it looked like BIOS so I supposed it was..  Even so, I have used this drive for about 6 months so if it requires EFI, I have EFI :) Even so.. How can I then get this fixed?
[01:09] <gdea73> I installed libimobiledevice-utils, but I still get "command not found" when I try to run "idevicepair."
[01:10] <escott> Phoenixz, are you certains that the spinning disk is a GPT disk? what does sudo parted -l say?
[01:10] <Phoenixz> And another thing: With 12.04, first boot, I get desktop, and seems not to respond at all to mouse or keyboard.. First 2 mouse clicks, ok, I get the menu, then it just seems to freeze until I ALT-SHIFT-F12 stop the special effects, now it works.. What might be the problem? On 11.04 I used the same desktop effects w/o problem
[01:11] <Phoenixz> escott: Partition Table: gpt
[01:11] <escott> Phoenixz, for both disks?
[01:12] <Phoenixz> escott: no, the SSD drive says MSDOS.. Maybe that one should use EFI too? In that case, how would I do that? The ubuntu installer CD did not give me the option
[01:12] <escott> Phoenixz, are you sure you are looking at the right drive? I thought you said it contains an EFI boot partiton
[01:14] <Phoenixz> escott: When I mount and list /dev/sdb1 it shows me /EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi
[01:14] <escott> Phoenixz, thats a EFI boot partition which should only appear on a GPT disk, and is only useful to an UEFI system
[01:15] <escott> Phoenixz, so sdb whatever that is is setup for a UEFI system
[01:15] <Phoenixz> escott: riightt.. Well, I only know that I used that disk for 6 months prior.. If I connect both my SSD and SATA drive, the SATA will boot...
[01:15] <Phoenixz> escott: so next question is, how to fix this? :)
[01:16] <escott> Phoenixz, im at the "i dont believe anything you say" point. so send me the output of sudo parted -l
[01:17] <escott> !paste | Phoenixz
[01:17] <Phoenixz> escott: No need to get rude here.. I'll get you the output..
[01:17] <glitsj16> brophat: seems the alternate installer does try to download latest package updates over the web when it detects a connection .. http://askubuntu.com/questions/150127/how-do-i-install-kde-or-xfce-or-lxde-to-an-ubuntu-12-04-system-with-no-internet/150148#150148
[01:18] <Phoenixz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1113003/
[01:18] <Phoenixz> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1113003/
[01:19] <Phoenixz> escott: Also, mounted /dev/sdb1 on my ~/old..     -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 131072 Dec 16  2011 old/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi*
[01:19] <escott> Phoenixz, ok. you need to repartition /dev/sda with a GPT table as well as 20MB partition with a fat partition I think the label is EFI. Then you can install grub-efi
[01:20] <brophat> glitsj16 ok but I specifically chose the cd cause my wifi sucks wbhahahahaha
[01:20] <escott> Phoenixz, sorry its just extremely rare to find someone who has an EFI system that was (a) working and (b) they didn't know it was EFI
[01:20] <brophat> it even asked me if I wanted to not use internet and I said no don't use internet
[01:21] <Yadra> Can dd image a disc which hasn't been mounted yet?
[01:21] <Phoenixz> escott: Its not my system, its my office system and it was installed for me, I really have not done anything on install level with this machine, so no I did not know until I got this SSD drive, now I AM installing :)
[01:21] <Phoenixz> escott: so, repartiton, or reinstall?
[01:22] <glitsj16> brophat: confusing indeed .. does it still try to download when you disable your connection?
[01:22] <escott> Phoenixz, yeah
[01:22] <escott> Phoenixz, good news is that with an SSD it will take you 20seconds
[01:22] <WaffleScratch> yadra: yes, it actually needs to be unmounted to copy properly
[01:22] <Phoenixz> escott: errr.. Thats yeah on the repartition, or reinstall?
[01:23] <Yadra> WaffleScratch: hmm, I can't seem to get it to accept a if=/dev/<device> path
[01:23] <escott> Phoenixz, yes you need to repartiton and reinstall, and use gparted on the livecd (or the installed system) to ensure you have a GPT structure
[01:23] <escott> Phoenixz, you'll have to say "new partition table" and select the GPT structure not MSDOS
[01:23] <WaffleScratch> is it a CD disc or HD?
[01:23] <Phoenixz> escott: Perfect, thats what I needed to know.. Thanks a lot
[01:24] <Yadra> WaffleScratch: it's a USB flash drive
[01:24] <Phoenixz> escott: I know all about msdos structure, but EFI and GPT are quite new to me, I'll have to study up a bit again..
[01:24] <Phoenixz> anyway, thanks!
[01:24] <Phoenixz> TTYAL!
[01:24] <escott> Phoenixz, its simpler in a way
[01:24] <WaffleScratch> whats the error you get
[01:24] <escott> Phoenixz, no extended/primary partitions. dedicated partition for bootloaders (thats this /efi/grub thing you were looking at)
[01:27] <brophat> glitsj16  good idea, but hell I am just gonna let it do what it is doing
[01:28] <brophat> afraid i will screw it up if I cut off its connection now. I just gotta wait another two hours bwahhahaha
[01:28] <brophat> I am connected at an avg of 50 kB/s
[01:28] <brophat> what is a decent download rate?
[01:29] <glitsj16> brophat: indeed .. and on a slow connection it looks like .. decent varies pretty much i guess
[01:29] <usr13> brophat: That's pretty decent.
[01:31] <Yadra> WaffleScratch: yikes, I guess it's working now! (I'm viewing the ascii-ified contents of the volume scroll by in the terminal! xD [because I set no output file])
[01:33] <WaffleScratch> aha I done that a few time in a hurry :P
[01:38] <dalek_> how do I remove nvidia proprietary drivers which have been installed manually from command line?
[01:38] <deadmund> dalek_: apt-get remove <nvidia>-something
[01:38] <romy420> dalek, do the same command again and replace 'install' with 'remove'
[01:38] <deadmund> dalek_: There are many packages that contain the nvidia propreitary drivers.  Which did you install?
[01:39] <dalek_> deadmund, already tried.. does not work. it was not installed with apt-get. Drivers were installed by nvidia's own intaller, downloaded from nvidia website.
[01:39] <tkesler> Has anyone run into a problem coming out of sleep on a laptop?
[01:40] <deadmund> dalek_: Then the only way to remove is figure out what files the installer put where. Do you have a link to it?  Perhaps it has an uninstall
[01:40] <dalek_> deadmund, this is the one - http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-173.14.35-driver.html
[01:41] <deadmund> dalek_: lemme look at it
[01:42] <brophat> ok fellas and ladies I am gonna get off this irc to give my crappy connection some room to download
[01:43] <deadmund> dalek_: All that download is a binary so I can't read it (humanly read it).  Can you get the name of the driver with sudo lspci -k   ?
[01:44] <abimael> so i updated eclipse and attempted to install ADT plugin and now it says its installed but isnt showing up in plugins or to create new project
[01:45] <Qualia> uninstall the eclipse
[01:45] <Qualia> use vim
[01:45] <dalek_> deadmund, yes. see - http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1113027/
[01:45] <deadmund> dalek_: reading
[01:45] <deadmund> mmmm, I was hoping for more info that 'nvidia'
[01:46] <deadmund> dalek_: try this and see what it turns up while we booth google some more.  sudo find / -name nvidia
[01:46] <blahdeblah> Hi.  I'm trying to be a good boy and learn how to use Unity properly before jumping ship to Mint or Debian or Xubuntu or something.  I've played with Unity on 12.04 for a few days and it's driving me nuts.  Is it possible to do the following?  1. Maximise a window vertically from the keyboard without changing its width, and keeping it at its current horizontal position on the screen.
[01:46] <blahdeblah>  2. Change to a specific workspace from the keyboard. 3. Switch to another window of the same application from the keyboard.
[01:46] <blahdeblah> 4. Turn off the command box coming up whenever Alt is pressed. 5. Show system monitor somewhere in a panel that shows all the time.
[01:47] <deadmund> dalek_: I found a site saying you can run sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-<stuff>.pkg.run --uninstall
[01:47] <romy420> tkesler, is your hard drive encrypted?
[01:47] <synthmesc> Great bolshy yarblockos to you. I'll meet you with chain or nozh or britva anytime, not having you aiming tolchocks at me reasonless. Well, it stands to reason I won't have it.
[01:48] <usr13> blahdeblah: You mentioned Xubuntu, so thought I'd let you know that you only have to issue command, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop  to use it.
[01:48] <dalek_> deadmund, sounds good. I will try that.
[01:48] <deadmund> blahdeblah: I don't think you'll find any window manager that will do 1 for you.
[01:48] <escott> blahdeblah, (1) sure same way it could be done with compiz (assuming that you could do it with compiz before)
[01:48] <abimael> deadmund: can i set up ADT with VIM?
[01:49] <deadmund> abimael: what is vim ?  (why not ask in android-dev)
[01:49] <deadmund> vim the text editor / IDE?
[01:49] <deadmund> I have no idea
[01:49] <blahdeblah> deadmund: icewm does it for me now
[01:49] <usr13> vim - Vi IMproved, a programmers text editor
[01:49] <deadmund> blahdeblah: Cool! :)
[01:49] <blahdeblah> And i'm pretty sure metacity would as well
[01:50] <deadmund> blahdeblah: I cannot help you :(
[01:51] <blahdeblah> After a bit more digging i found the way to switch & move windows between workspaces from the keyboard, but you can't override the keys used by the panel/launcher/whatever-it-is.  I previously had Win-Number to switch to the workspace of that number.  Any thoughts?
[01:52] <usr13> blahdeblah: The command box comes up when you hit Alt-F2
[01:52] <Logos01> Greetings! I'm currently working on installing an Ubuntu Server (12.04 amd64) instance. I need to add a PPA to my install before the installation actually occurs.
[01:52] <blahdeblah> usr13: Something very similar comes up when i just tap Alt.  Google indicates it may be called the HUD.
[01:53] <Logos01> Does anyone have experience doing this?  There's no /etc/apt dir.
[01:53] <beandog> Are you sure you're on Ubuntu?
[01:53] <Logos01> beandog: I am 100,000% sure.
[01:53] <deadmund> Logos01: no /etc/apt dir.  You haven't installed yet.  There is no /  directory
[01:54] <beandog> ok
[01:54] <Logos01> deadmund: / is the root of the installation environment.
[01:54] <usr13> blahdeblah: When you hit Ctrl-F2 do you go to Workspace 2  Or, Ctrl-F1 to workspace 1?
[01:54] <Logos01> Just like it would be the root of a liveCD environment.
[01:54] <deadmund> Logos01: Ahh, so by /etc/apt you mean on the install media
[01:54] <blahdeblah> usr13: Ctrl-F1 and Ctrl-F2 appear to do nothing.
[01:55] <Logos01> deadmund: Yes.
[01:55] <deadmund> Logos01: Looks like that feature is part of hte installer now: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/12561/
[01:55] <usr13> blahdeblah: You probably have only one workspace.  (Sorry, but I'm not an authority on Unity, so...)
[01:55] <Logos01> deadmund: You're aware I said "server" install, right?
[01:55] <blahdeblah> There's a workspace switcher that shows 4 workspaces
[01:56] <deadmund> Logos01: haha, forgot that part.   Mmmm, IDK of a way.  Why do you need the packages installed at install time and not after you first login?
[01:56] <Logos01> Because then I wouldn't have installed the system on the FS these packages provide.
[01:56] <Logos01> zfsonlinux.
[01:57] <Logos01> I'm also in #zfsonlinux. They said to come here for this piece.
[01:57] <romy420> blahdeblah, open 'System Settings' -> Keyboard, there u can configure shortcuts to switch to a specific workspace
[01:58] <romy420> they're just not configured by default
[01:58] <blahdeblah> romy420: Found that. But you can't override Meta+Num.
[01:58] <romy420> no u cant
[01:58] <AcidRain2012> im back with the same issue that when my eth0 connection is dropped, it fails to automatically reconnect
[01:58] <AcidRain2012> can anyone hellp me with this?
[01:58] <deadmund> Logos01: I don't know.  Sorry :(
[01:58] <AcidRain2012> i have like 50 servers running, and i cant have them dropping until i can come home and manually click on it
[01:59] <Logos01> deadmund: Well, I'm not surprised. Thank you for your time though. :)
[01:59] <jesse2> Hello.  After applying a theme, it doesnt load automatically..... is there a key combo that i can quickly refresh/restart to load the theme?
[01:59] <usr13> blahdeblah: How about Ctrl-Alt-Left or Right arrow?  (Does it switch between workspaces?)
[01:59] <jesse2> i think it was alt+f2 and something but i dont recall
[01:59]  * blahdeblah tries icewm --replace on Unity to see what carnage results...
[02:00] <AcidRain2012> i installed wicd, hopefully this will solve this issue
[02:00] <l3d> how would u install a theme on 12
[02:00] <smallfoot-> how can i verify that no file on my system has been tampered with?
[02:00] <l3d> 12
[02:00] <smallfoot-> doesn't canonical sign ubuntu binaries?
[02:00] <usr13> blahdeblah: Does Alt-F10 maximise current window?
[02:00] <romy420> unity is made for apple users ... i guess u want more freedom :P
[02:01] <usr13> blahdeblah: Does Alt-Space bring up context window to do various things with current window?
[02:02] <jesse2> Can anyone recomend a site where I can download more themes/window decorations for Unity (Ubuntu 12.04) ?
[02:02] <xangua> jesse2: gnome-look.org
[02:02] <usr13> blahdeblah: Does Alt-F5 return window to previous size?
[02:02] <blahdeblah> usr13: Alt-F10 didn't work, Alt-Space did; I'll switch back to Unity to see about some of the others
[02:02] <jesse2> thanks xangua
[02:04] <blahdeblah> usr13: Alt-F10 opens the menu the same as F10 usually does
[02:05] <blahdeblah> Alt-F5 does nothing
[02:06] <blahdeblah> usr13: Found where i can change some of those - trying now
[02:07] <WarriorSl> people sorry for the lame question, I'm using 12.04 and I wanna know how do I disable the sticky edges of the screen with windows?
[02:08] <a_ozaki> join #platform
[02:10] <blahdeblah> usr13, deadmund: I actually found a shortcut to maximise vertically in place.  But pressing it again doesn't toggle, you have to use Alt-F5 to restore it.
[02:10] <IlikeMoose> i'm getting a weird message  E: Encountered a section with no Package: header  and apt-get won't work nor will update manager
[02:10] <deadmund> blahdeblah: ok :)
[02:10] <deadmund> blahdeblah: This is not an issue that strongly concerns me
[02:11] <blahdeblah> Just thought i'd let you know that it is possible in Unity
[02:11] <deadmund> blahdeblah: ok, thanks :)
[02:11] <blahdeblah> My finger memory is too far ingrained to consider giving up icewm.  Unity is getting better, but still not customisable enough for power users.
[02:11] <obakfahad> Hello  guys .
[02:12] <obakfahad> Unity is cool but not as gnome-shell .
[02:13] <obakfahad> If you want top customize ...then there is no other WM as classic one . Gnome2 .
[02:13] <Diegosan> i hate both still, and yet gnome fall back still doesnt feel right
[02:13] <wawan> is there a way to upgrade from ubuntu 10.10 to 12.04 ??
[02:13] <Logos01> wawan: Directly? Yes. But it's not supported.
[02:13] <Logos01> Otherwise, just do do-release-upgrade three times.
[02:14] <Logos01> But that's not recommended, IMO, as compared to a full reinstall.
[02:14] <obakfahad> It will broke many things .@ wawan
[02:14] <Logos01> They changed top-level directories in 11.10.
[02:14] <jimmy_lo> !regular file
[02:14] <escott> blahdeblah, shock therapy. you can make those fingers forget in no time
[02:14] <wawan> yes i see..
[02:14] <xreal> Is there a variable for systems fonts? (/usr/share/fonts/truetype)
[02:14] <Logos01> wawan: Did you by any chance make a separate / and /home partitions?
[02:15] <Diegosan> i did a 10.04 to 10.10 once and it failed so bad lol, then a frest install didnt install the same for some reason, the display drivers were all messed on bootup
[02:15] <wawan> so it isn't do easly
[02:16] <obakfahad> wawan you can try upgrade opening a new user and of course  ur home partition should be another , not whole one .....
[02:16] <IlikeMoose> what causes package lists to become corrupt??
[02:16] <obakfahad> quit .lol
[02:16] <deadmund> IlikeMoose: nonsense (usually network errors) it's an easy fix
[02:17] <IlikeMoose> yeah i found sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists* -vf and it seems to be working :) hurray internets!!!
[02:17] <deadmund> IlikeMoose: internets are good.
[02:18] <SteevB2> Anyone have a suggestion to a good setup for a server setup for a business. It is used pretty much to save, update, and search for invoices.
[02:18] <IlikeMoose> internets r00l!!!! praise al gore!
[02:18] <xworld> hey guys I installed osdlyrics in ubuntu 11.10 but its settings is not showing previous time when i used osdlyrics I used to edit the font color and all but now i cant able to do that how to get the setting of osdlyrics
[02:18] <Diegosan> all of the internets
[02:18] <obakfahad> Anyone have a BLOG ?
[02:18] <obakfahad> Please share !!!!
[02:19] <pooltable> how to lock guest account ?
[02:19] <Diegosan> im working a ubuntu 12.04 server with openbox gui, its gonna be so awesome :D
[02:20] <pooltable> lock the computer after say 9 pm?
[02:20] <jyc> hello! I have three monitors set up - two are connected to an ATI card, and the third is connected to the internal Intel graphics. how can I enable the third monitor?
[02:20] <Niji> question..can i hook concert mics with ubuntu? (shure)
[02:20] <deadmund> jyc: I don't think it is possible to enable both onboard and external graphics at the same time (i.e. you can't)
[02:20] <obakfahad> jyc , your third one can not be possible because that IS OUT OF WORK WHEN EXTERNAL ATI TEHRE .
[02:21] <Diegosan> jyc: some motherboards dont allow this, but it would be in the bios settings if its possible from the one board i have that does that
[02:21] <jyc> it is completely possible. I have the setup working on Windows
[02:21] <jyc> I enabled the internal graphics in the BIOS
[02:21] <jyc> obakfahad: RTFM before using caps, please
[02:21] <deadmund> jyc: you have it working in windows?  Well then maybe it can be done.  Most of the BIOS's I
[02:22] <deadmund> BIOS's I've ever seen let you turn on one or the other
[02:22] <obakfahad> Sorry...? what is RTFM ?
[02:22] <deadmund> read the fucking manual
[02:22] <obakfahad> jyc ?
[02:22] <deadmund> but it's really inappropriate for this channel
[02:22] <obakfahad> ok ok sorry .
[02:22] <Diegosan> im not sure i havent tried linux on my board that does it
[02:22] <jyc> deadmund: yea, it's a really unusual option (from what I've read). the monitor itself seems active, but Ubuntu doesn't seem to register it after bootup
[02:23] <deadmund> jyc: what does xrandr say?
[02:23] <jyc> deadmund: xrandr -q doesn't register it as existing
[02:23] <obakfahad> Hey guys any one have a linux blog ?
[02:23] <deadmund> jyc: not a good sign.
[02:24] <jyc> deadmund: yea. I will try some more things and then try to report back - thanks for the the help all
[02:24] <deadmund> http://askubuntu.com/questions/30073/using-the-onboard-vga-output-with-a-pcie-video-card-both-nvidia
[02:24] <deadmund> he left :(
[02:25] <obakfahad> Oh . deadmund
[02:25] <obakfahad> Are u regular here deadmund ?
[02:25] <deadmund> not in a long time
[02:25] <deadmund> about a year or 2
[02:25] <deadmund> but I used to be the BEST
[02:25] <obakfahad> that is more than regular .
[02:26] <obakfahad> Do you have a website ?
[02:26] <obakfahad> deadmund ?
[02:26] <deadmund> obakfahad: yeah, actually.  I do :)
[02:27] <Dr_willis>  check delicious.com and the 'ubuntu' tags... ;)
[02:28] <LinuxHack3r> So has anyone heard of a timescale for Valve's Steam Linux release?
[02:28] <Diegosan> 2015
[02:28] <deadmund> Dr_willis: Why am I looking at this?  http://delicious.com/tag/ubuntu
[02:29] <omlala> I am in the process of wanting to make a bootable USB for a windows friend but first I must format it and the windows help is no help. How do I do it? (I think I want to do it NTFS)
[02:29] <dalek_> deadmund, I got the nvidia driver to uninstall.. now I can't get ubuntu's default nouveau nvidia drivers to install properly :(
[02:30] <deadmund> dalek_: They were listed as alternatives if I remember you lspci -k correctly.  What is the problem exactly?
[02:30] <prabha> i installed on board screen but does not show anything how can i open that software
[02:30] <xworld> hey guys how to change the settings of osdlyrics
[02:30] <pooltable> how to lock guest account ?
[02:30] <pooltable> lock the computer after say 9 pm?
[02:30] <prabha> will u tell me any commnd
[02:31] <dalek_> deadmund, screen res is stuck at 1024x768.. no other resolution except 800x600 available. Can't detect any external display, etc.
[02:32] <deadmund> dalek_: what driver is the system using?  what does xrandr say about things?  What is your desired / maximum resolution
[02:33] <Dr_willis> LinuxHack3r,  could be next week.. could be next year.. could be next 4 years.. no one knows.
[02:33] <dalek_> deadmund, native res should be 1280x800.
[02:33] <dalek_> brb
[02:34] <LinuxHack3r> Dr_willis: Yeah that was what I was thinking, but I honestly just read about it today and was wondering if perhaps someone had heard a timeframe. Oh well...good news nontheless.
[02:34] <Dr_willis> LinuxHack3r,  if it ever actually happens.
[02:34] <escott> pooltable, what do you mean by lock?
[02:35] <pooltable> not log in to the computer at all via guest account
[02:35] <LinuxHack3r> Dr_willis: Well the clame to have l4d2 running natively, That is a good sign.
[02:36] <deadmund> LinuxHack3r: claim, I've seen screenshots.  I think even if their project fails that little bit of code will be leaked
[02:36] <arooni-mobile> ugh.  i was trying to fix audio problems when playing flash on ubuntu 12.04 64bit by installing pavucontrol;  i changed output setting to something different; now theres *no audio* ... i tried to run pavuadio again but it doesnt load anymore; "connect to pulseaudio failed"
[02:37] <LinuxHack3r> deadmund: I was wondering that as well. At the lest perhaps we gain l4d2! but I really hope that they will at least port steam and the source games.
[02:37] <Diegosan> pooltable: i found this with google http://www.techlw.com/2012/05/disable-guest-account-in-ubuntu-1204.html i presume 12.04
[02:37] <arooni-mobile> help?
[02:37] <deadmund> LinuxHack3r: yeah, we can hope.  The slashdot news earlier today seemed promising
[02:38] <Diegosan> i get blue videos from flash now, but thats another story
[02:38] <pooltable> diegosan thanks
[02:38] <Diegosan> np
[02:38] <pooltable> also block facebook ?
[02:38] <UndiFineD> phoronix has many updates on the subject: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE0Njc Valve On Linux To Be Presented In Two Weeks
[02:39] <pooltable> loog off the computer at say 10 pm to 7 am "?
[02:39] <Diegosan> i wouldnt know that sorry, but i would think hosts file
[02:39] <LinuxHack3r> deadmund: *Reading now. I was very close to selling my custom built gaming pc because I am so tired of windows. but I may actually keep it just for that. I'll get kubuntu on it soon probably.
[02:40] <deadmund> pooltable: check out these packageS: askubuntu.com/questions/68918/how-do-i-restrict-my-kids-computing-time
[02:40] <deadmund> pooltable: Ignore the fact that they 'dont work' in 11.10
[02:40] <deadmund> LinuxHack3r: I like arch linux :)
[02:40] <pooltable> deadmund 12.04 here
[02:41] <deadmund> pooltable: yeah. likely those claims that the programs don't work aren't really true anyway.  Try those programs
[02:41] <moegreen> hey guys..why would root not be able to change the sudoers file? It wont even let me chmod 777 it
[02:41] <LinuxHack3r> deadmund: I like Mountain Lion, but cannot justify an iMac right now;)
[02:41] <deadmund> LinuxHack3r: Have you read the insane ars technica review of Mnt. Lion?
[02:41] <LinuxHack3r> deadmund: show me a link? BTW I am in Mountain Lion right now:)
[02:42] <moegreen> i need to add a user to the list and i get that the file is read only which it is, but i cant even change it
[02:42] <deadmund> LinuxHack3r: http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/07/os-x-10-8/  You have a misleading nick
[02:42] <pooltable> also i get a crash like daily how to fix them ?
[02:42] <dalek_> deadmund, xrandr shows - http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1113078/
[02:43] <deadmund> dalek_: It looks like it thinks your monitor is limited to 1024 x 768
[02:43] <deadmund> dalek_: reading...
[02:43] <dalek_> deadmund, it's a laptop screen, native res 1280x800
[02:43] <mobyte> Hello everyone. I would just like help with some quick problems. First is that my minimize, maximize, and close buttons have somehow shifted to the right of my windows. I was wondering how this happened and how I would switch them back to the left. Also, the text above windows is now bolded for some reason. How would I change both of these back?
[02:44] <deadmund> dalek_: try xrandr -s 1280*800
[02:44] <LinuxHack3r> deadmund: Oh now, I have a MacBook pro because I love OS X, but I also very much love linux and would love to be able to use it if it was just a bit more mainsteam, ie professional office programs and gaming. I could do Windows 7 in a VM in Linux just as I do my MacBook and Windows 7 for a few applications, but it is the gaming that gets me. But I used only Linux for about 6 years.
[02:44] <mobyte> Also I can't switch workspaces with my ctrl+alt+arrowkey anymore.
[02:45] <deadmund> dalek_: What driver are you using?
[02:46] <dalek_> deadmund, none apparently... see here - http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1113085/
[02:46] <pleitegeier> can I tell cron somehow to run missed jobs (because system was offline) after next boot?
[02:46] <deadmund> dalek_: Did you uninstall the nvidia driver and not reboot?
[02:46] <deadmund> dalek_: It does appear to be nothing :P
[02:46] <arooni-mobile> ugh.  i was trying to fix audio problems when playing flash on ubuntu 12.04 64bit by installing pavucontrol;  i changed output setting to something different; now theres *no audio* ... i tried to run pavuadio again but it doesnt load anymore; "connect to pulseaudio failed"  help?
[02:46] <deadmund> pleitegeier: anacron :)
[02:46] <dalek_> deadmund, uninstalled, rebooted.. several times....
[02:46] <pleitegeier> deadmund: k, thanks
[02:46] <deadmund> dalek_: lsmod | grep nouveau    shows stuff?
[02:47] <deadmund> dalek_: I dont' need to see it.  Only let me know that it outputs
[02:47] <mobyte> Never mind about the buttons being on the right, I just found out how to switch them back to the left. Still need help with the shortcut thing and the bolded text thing.
[02:48] <dalek_> deadmund, it outputs a list of stuff containing "nouveau"
[02:48] <deadmund> dalek_: That means the nouveau driver is loaded and being used.  Check this out: http://wienker.org/blog/?p=32
[02:49] <deadmund> dalek_: What happened when you tried to just set the resolution you wanted with xrandr -s ?
[02:49] <deadmund> dalek_: BTW, your pastebin speed is appreciated :)
[02:49] <dalek_> deadmund, it complained that what I wanted to do was impossible
[02:50] <deadmund> dalek_: check out the link to try to add a mode line
[02:51] <dalek_> deadmund, I can't work out why I should have to add screen modes manually when it could work it out itself automagically before I had the nvidia's drivers installed :(
[02:51] <zimba12> all of a sudden my usb wifi adapter stopped working on ubuntu 12.04 (it's been working till today and it still works on kubuntu on another machine)
[02:52] <deadmund> dalek_: different drivers probe the hardware differently.  Some do a better job than others.
[02:52] <zimba12> do you know what can cause it?
[02:52] <deadmund> dalek_: You can try using a different driver if you want
[02:52] <dalek_> deadmund, different driver? such as?
[02:53] <omlala> ok I got it the thumb drive is ok to write on. FAT32 is good enough.
[02:53] <mobyte> I fixed everything else. Can somebody please tell me how to get back the ctrl+alt+arrowkey shortcut back?
[02:53] <RiXtEr> hey guys how can I look at how the kernel was compiled if I don't have /proc/config.gz?
[02:53] <zimba12> when I unplug it, the kernel crashes with messages like: usb_disable_device
[02:56] <obakfahad> deadmmund what is that site ?
[02:58] <mobyte> I figured out how to fix my problems.. thanks...
[02:58] <deadmund> obakfahad: IDK, I googled it
[02:58] <obakfahad> No No... i am asking your blog... dedmund
[02:59] <deadmund> obakfahad: not a blog, just a personal site: ednovak.net
[02:59] <omlala> will the amd version work on intel? 12.04 -- I doownloaded it. sorry if it's a stupid question.
[03:00] <deadmund> omlala: the term 'amd64' is actually intel and amd processors that are 64 bit'  There is no 'intel64'
[03:00] <omlala> this is an hp computer with intel core inside. tell me which version to use. the regular desktop?
[03:00] <deadmund> omlala: In other words, it will work if you have a 64 bit processor.  Even an 64 bit processor is called amd64
[03:00] <omlala> then it'
[03:00] <deadmund> omlala: Well I can't tell if you have 64bit or not
[03:00] <omlala> then it's ok?
[03:01] <deadmund> omlala: read what I said and decide for yourself but don't make me repeat myself
[03:01] <omlala> i see. how do I tell if this is 64. sorry being on windows is odd to me.
[03:01] <omlala> !gnome omlala
[03:02] <omlala> I think I've forgotten everything. heh.
[03:03] <omlala> also what does "Set a persistent file size for storing changes" mean. Yes, it's optional.
[03:04] <omlala> And how do I get ubottu to tell me how to make it load in gnome?
[03:07] <omlala> I'd like it to load GNOME2 rather than UNITY. How do I do that?
[03:08] <romy420> omlala ... windows key + break should show u the system information (64?) in windows
[03:09] <omlala> there's a break key? shades of the XT!
[03:09] <romy420> i have one, u should too
[03:10] <omlala> I dont see a label "break"
[03:11] <omlala> BTW I figured out "persistent" and chose 3G. Persistence means I can store on the drive and not just in ram. I mean that's the purpose of using a usb drive.
[03:11] <Miguelito> Hmmmm just thought I'd ask this... Anyone have any games either first person or rpg that they would recommend?
[03:12] <pooltable> help block face book on opera and chrome ?
[03:12] <romy420> omlala,, if u just want to install from that usb than persistent is not necessary, but will not hurt either
[03:13] <omlala> I want to play with it. I want to have one that has things like xchat on it. some things that dont exist in the default set.
[03:14] <omlala> BUT I really really want gnome2 instead of unity. How do I do that? Ubottu knows but I cant seem to get the command together.
[03:15] <AcidRain2012> how do i make wicd show up in icon tray?
[03:15] <omlala> !ubottu omlala
[03:15] <escott> omlala, if your hardware is powerful enough a virtualbox install might be preferable to a liveusb. liveusb is more about portability
[03:15] <tchopper> Miguelito, Final Fantasy V is a great game.
[03:15] <Miguelito> tchopper, and they have it for linux
[03:15] <omlala> Sorry I dont know anything about ubottu omlala.... What am I doing...
[03:15] <escott> !notunity | omlala
[03:15] <omlala> yo
[03:16] <omlala> thanks escott
[03:16] <omlala> ok good.
[03:17] <omlala> I understand that unity is gnome in disguise but I'm no good at "hide and seek"
[03:17] <tchopper> Now I know why I have gnome-shell on here. gnome-tweak-tool installed it.
[03:17] <logost> Can anyone direct me to a guide for install/compile mplayer 32 bit on/along side 64 bit?
[03:17] <escott> logost, apt-get install mplayer:i386
[03:17] <AcidRain2012> how do i make wicd show up in icon tray?
[03:18] <logost> escott, ah simple as that. Nice
[03:18] <cmake> now I know what those .dat files are they are standard FAA file format :) thanks gnu projects
[03:18] <AcidRain2012> The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources." <-- it says this. but i dont see one that does have it
[03:18] <cmake> not what was those ubin files :)
[03:18] <cmake> EGT
[03:18] <cmake> LOL
[03:18] <omlala> OK all looks good for now. thanks to anone who helped me.... it turns out it takes time to extraCT the iso.
[03:22] <pooltable> help block face book on opera and chrome ?
[03:24] <escott> pooltable, iptables + squid
[03:24] <pooltable> escott what is that ?
[03:25] <escott> pooltable, use iptables to block access to the raw web and force all access to port 80 to go through a squid proxy, then you can blacklist websites
[03:25] <coop> Good evening everyone
[03:25] <escott> pooltable, its not 100% but it will stop most casual users
[03:25] <cmake> iptables and the older ipchains are a coming for me soon after I finish the last switches up of awk , sed , grep , find not long not long
[03:25] <pooltable> escott how do i set it up?
[03:25] <escott> !iptables
[03:26] <escott> !squid
[03:26] <Diegosan> i just notice the #gentoo has 925 users O.O is it that hard or what lol
[03:26] <djskidd> hi, I can't get a Java archive to run as an executible
[03:26] <djskidd> Diegosan: it is really hard.
[03:27] <Diegosan> ive never tried it so l dont know
[03:27] <animus123> how to modify the splash screen basically the screen which display during shutdown.
[03:27] <djskidd> I was never able to get into the installer since I don't know bash
[03:27] <escott> Diegosan, depends on what stage you start the bootstrap. the early stage1 was a pain (and took forever) after stage 3 its on par with ubuntu
[03:27] <djskidd> how do I run a java archive as a program?
[03:27] <magg> Hello… I'd like to deploy Hadoop to OpenStack cloud. Is there any automatic way to do that? I heard ubuntu has juju and orchestra for that, where can i find any info to do this with my openstack cloud and not the EC2
[03:28] <Diegosan> me thinks i will try in a virtualbox
[03:29] <Jagst3r15> should i remove Nouveau and use the Nvidida provided drivers instead?
[03:29] <djskidd> I lost virtualbox when I upgraded from Unity to XFCE
[03:29] <Jagst3r15> I think that would be better since then I don't need bumblebee right
[03:30] <animus123> where is the splash screen files lo
[03:30] <pb> if I wanted to start fillding around with changing my gui. were would be a good place to find a book on it.
[03:30] <pb> or a name of a reference would be better yet.
[03:30] <animus123> where is the splash screen files located in ubuntu?
[03:30] <Diegosan> i recently got a quad core and its literally like 4 times faster at virtualboxing than it was with a dual core, but that pc was like 5 years old so
[03:31] <pb> text editing with vim? emacs? hex?
[03:32] <animus123> anybody using ubuntu with sis graphic cards?
[03:32] <pooltable> escott thanks
[03:32] <romy420> pb, install themes?!
[03:33] <pooltable> diegosan i like gentoo but like the way ubuntu up date evey thing
[03:33] <Diegosan> me too
[03:36] <pb> naw. Ill start by finishing reading my vim handbook.
[03:36] <Diegosan> I swaped HD to a new computer with ubuntu 10.04 on it, the original machine had a ATI graphics card and the new machine has a NVIDIA card. I can't seem to fix the flash videos from being blue colored. anyone have any suggestions? I got the NVIDIA drivers up and going
[03:36] <pb> romy420, you always hanging about in here?
[03:37] <romy420> pb, no not really at least not writing
[03:38] <pb> i leave it up in one of my second workspaces. amusing the stuff you learn just by lurking.
[03:38] <pb> goodnight gang.
[03:40] <animus123> need help?
[03:43] <prateekp> hello
[03:43] <trackbrasil> hi
[03:44] <prateekp> i am getting an error svn: Server sent unexpected return value (400 Bad Request) in response to PROPFIND request for '/distfun'
[03:46] <prateekp> hello
[03:47] <prateekp> i am getting an error svn: Server sent unexpected return value (400 Bad Request) in response to PROPFIND request for '/distfun'
[03:47] <terminhell> prateekp: server is sdown then
[03:47] <prateekp> sdown?
[03:47] <terminhell> *down
[03:48] <prateekp> ohh but when i googled it said it is proxy issue
[03:48] <RiXtEr> hey guys how can I look at how the kernel was compiled if I don't have /proc/config.gz?
[03:48] <terminhell> disable your proxy then
[03:48] <r3z> How the heck do you install NFS on precise?>
[03:48] <terminhell> nfs
[03:49] <prateekp> but when i do so , i mean when i use internet without it sill shows this
[03:49] <RiXtEr> Network File System
[03:49] <terminhell> !nfs
[03:49] <prateekp> can i check through terminal whether i am using proxy or not
[03:49] <IlikeMoose> anyone in here good with unity/gnome problems? when i click on my wireless network icon in the "system tray" and try to search for available wireless networks all i get is a very tiny box, if i restart the pc it works fine, how can i fix this so i don't have to restart the pc?
[03:49] <terminhell> idk prateekp , im not sure what profind is
[03:50] <prateekp> ok
[03:50] <terminhell> IlikeMoose: have you tried droping to run level 3 & just killing X?
[03:50] <prateekp> hey can anybody help me with an error
[03:51] <prateekp> i am getting an error svn: Server sent unexpected return value (400 Bad Request) in response to PROPFIND request for '/distfun'
[03:51] <IlikeMoose> terminhell, i thought killing x would be a bit extreme
[03:51] <Jagst3r15> if I install the closed source nivida supported drivers do i need to remove bumbleebee and Nouveau? anyone know?
[03:52] <terminhell> IlikeMoose: not as extreme as rebooting...
[03:52] <r3z> Tons of 503's on the repos
[03:52] <r3z> Anyone else having those problems?
[03:52] <Derpian> r3z, what repo are you using
[03:52] <r3z> Default
[03:52] <Derpian> r3z, hm let me try apt-get update
[03:53] <Derpian> Nope
[03:53] <r3z> Weird
[03:53] <Derpian> r3z, what version are you on
[03:53] <r3z> 12.04
[03:53] <Derpian> ok
[03:53] <r3z> Just installed
[03:53] <Derpian> I am on 12.04 too
[03:53] <Derpian> r3z, why not go into synaptic and see which repo you are using
[03:54] <IlikeMoose> terminhell, how do you drop to run level 3, what are the exact commands and how do i restart x afterwards just "startx &" ?
[03:54] <r3z> Server install
[03:54] <r3z> no gui
[03:54] <terminhell> startx just that
[03:54] <terminhell> ctrl+alt+F1 , alt-F7 to get back into x if you get scared haha
[03:55] <Derpian> terminhell, he's on server
[03:55] <terminhell> why a gui then?
[03:55] <Derpian> terminhell, he doesnt have one I assume
[03:55] <Derpian> r3z, try nano /etc/apt/sources.list and change them to another mirror
[03:56] <r3z> I think it might be a firewall issue
[03:56] <r3z> CHceking the routers
[03:56] <Derpian> r3z, check that out. I use the main one
[03:56] <anomaly> I admit my ignorance with php as I am learning.  on my webserver, all my plain html pages are fine.  yet, my wordpress and phpmyadmin can work fine for 30mins or so.. then when I load another page or section in it after under an hour of use or so, the page refresh just sits there for a couple dozen seconds.  no errors, forbiddens, denieds.  then say, an hour later it loads just fine like nothing happened.  surely there is something I am missing due to sa
[03:56] <anomaly> id ignorance.  either with php or my configuration elsewhere.
[03:56] <Derpian> anomaly try #php
[03:56] <terminhell> Derpian: he's using unity DE
[03:57] <anomaly> Derpian, I did.
[03:57] <Derpian> terminhell, how would you know? he's using server. I told him to go into synaptic
[03:57] <Derpian> anomaly, wait for a response on there then, this is for ubuntu support
[03:57] <chrisco97> Hey
[03:57] <terminhell> Derpian: you just said he's using server...
[03:57] <chrisco97> I am in need of some help with something
[03:57] <r3z> Yep firewall
[03:57] <r3z> Fixing...
[03:57] <Derpian> terminhell, I told him use synaptic and he said he is in server
[03:58] <terminhell> paosdjfkjsdf
[03:58] <r3z> FYI that is why I cannot see the nfs-kernel-server package I guess
[03:58] <r3z> LOL
[03:58] <r3z> I was like WTF happened to it in 12.04
[03:58] <terminhell> im lost now
[03:58] <Derpian> chrico97, what do you need
[03:59] <chrisco97> I am wanting to install Ubuntu alongside Windows
[03:59] <chrisco97> Problem is, I have four partitions pre-configured
[03:59] <chrisco97> I have an HP computer, and the HP_Tools is the extra partition
[03:59] <chrisco97> I am told if I delete it, it could cause problems.
[03:59] <chrisco97> Any idea of what I should do?
[03:59] <Derpian> chrisco97, what are the partitions? Are 3 of them for Windows/HP? Then you should make an extended/logical for Ubuntu
[04:00] <terminhell> what kind of "tools"?
[04:00] <bunglonhijau> gparted..
[04:00] <chrisco97> I have C, System, Recovery, and HP_Tools
[04:00] <Derpian> chrisco97, alright then make a logical/extended partition
[04:00] <terminhell> hp_tools & recovery are useless, kill with fire
[04:01] <Derpian> terminhell, not for a new user/basic user
[04:01] <chrisco97> That is what they say, I do not want my PC messed up though
[04:01] <Derpian> terminhell, it can void the warranty
[04:01] <Derpian> depending on the hardware make/manufacturer's warranty rules
[04:01] <chrisco97> It says I cannot create a new one
[04:01] <Derpian> chrisco97, it won't mess your computer up but if you want it back to factory setting then it won't be the same
[04:01] <terminhell> he's going to be voiding some warranties just by installing linux...
[04:01] <chrisco97> I can only have four primary
[04:02] <Derpian> terminhell, perhaps
[04:02] <Derpian> chrisco97, make an extended/logical partition then
[04:03] <chrisco97> I am clicking the new partition button and it gives me that message
[04:03] <Derpian> chrisco97, I'd recommend making the partition inside the Ubuntu installer
[04:03] <chrisco97> Okay
[04:03] <chrisco97> Let me try
[04:03] <chrisco97> I am on the Live Session right now
[04:03] <terminhell> resize one
[04:03] <chrisco97> I already shrunk my main one to give room for the new one
[04:04] <Derpian> chrisco97, you must resize one and make it to a logical/extended partition
[04:04] <terminhell> extended...or maybe lvm?
[04:04] <chrisco97> Could I do that to the HP one?
[04:04] <chrisco97> I cannot do that to the main one though, right?
[04:04] <chrisco97> Would that not mess it up?
[04:04] <Derpian> chrisco97, I'd recommend the largest partition (C drive)
[04:05] <chrisco97> I already shrunk it, I have 80gb unallocated now
[04:05] <Derpian> chrisco97, it won't mess it up. I wouldn't recommend resizing the HP one because it may be small
[04:05] <Derpian> Ok
[04:05] <chrisco97> What next?
[04:05] <chrisco97> It is small
[04:05] <Derpian> chrisco97, now you make that unallocated into a logical partition
[04:05] <Derpian> chrisco97, First make a swap partition
[04:05] <terminhell> you didnt shrink it all the way did you???
[04:05] <chrisco97> No
[04:05] <chrisco97> Just by 80gb
[04:05] <chrisco97> For the installation of Linux
[04:06] <terminhell> ok good
[04:06] <Derpian> chrisco97, Make a swap partition. Make that about 1.5x your RAM
[04:06] <Derpian> chrisco97, then the rest of unallocated to a / partition
[04:06] <Derpian> make sure that is extended partition first
[04:06] <chrisco97> How do I create the swap partition?
[04:06] <chrisco97> I have no experience in partioning
[04:07] <chrisco97> lol
[04:07] <Derpian> Alright first make the extended chrisco97
[04:07] <chrisco97> Do it to the C partition?
[04:07] <Derpian> Make sure you check logical instead of primary chrisco97
[04:07] <terminhell> noooooo
[04:07] <Derpian> chrisco97 on the 80gb
[04:07] <chrisco97> Okay
[04:07] <chrisco97> One moment
[04:07] <terminhell> the unallocated space
[04:08] <chrisco97> It says it is unusable
[04:08] <terminhell> i dont think you can use an extended to boot
[04:08] <Derpian> chrisco97, take a screenshot (Print screen) and upload it to a site
[04:09] <Derpian> terminhell, yes you can
[04:09] <chrisco97> Okay
[04:09] <Derpian> terminhell, I am on one right now
[04:09] <terminhell> ok
[04:09] <Derpian> terminhell, I use one because I can make many partitions for folders
[04:10] <chrisco97> http://db.tt/3RUQXju0
[04:11] <Derpian> have you tried clicking add chrisco97
[04:11] <Diegosan> i think he needs to move that freespace to the end of the drive?
[04:12] <chrisco97> The Add button is disabled
[04:12] <terminhell> No, 4 logical partitions already
[04:12] <Derpian> primary* terminhell
[04:12] <terminhell> yes *primary
[04:12] <Derpian> Diegosan, my extended is at middle of the drive
[04:12] <Derpian> chrisco97, can you delete it?
[04:12] <chrisco97> What?
[04:13] <Derpian> chrisco97, can you delete the unusable partition?
[04:13] <Derpian> chrisco97, that would probably make it say unallocated or something
[04:13] <chrisco97> Maybe I should just not install Linux
[04:13] <RiXtEr> Does anyone have an idea on how I can see the kernel options if I don't have /proc/config.gz?
[04:13] <animus123> please help?
[04:13] <chrisco97> I do not want to void warranty or anything
[04:14] <Derpian> !best | chrisco97
[04:14] <chrisco97> The delete button is disabled as well
[04:14] <chrisco97> Yeah
[04:14] <chrisco97> lol
[04:14] <chrisco97> I do not really need Linux, so I guess I will do without it for now
[04:14] <chrisco97> Until I get a PC I can override Windows on
[04:14] <chrisco97> Or maybe, I could install it through Wubi?
[04:14] <romy420> HP won ... lol
[04:15] <Derpian> chrisco97, wubi sounds like a great idea for you
[04:15] <chrisco97> I love HP, but this is annoying
[04:15] <chrisco97> Yeah
[04:15] <Derpian> chrisco97, I recommend putting your partition back the way it was
[04:15] <romy420> they are all the same
[04:15] <chrisco97> Since I have no other option due to HP's methods
[04:15] <chrisco97> Thanks for the help! :D
[04:15] <romy420> do u have recovery dvd?
[04:15] <Derpian> chrisco97, your welcome.
[04:15] <chrisco97> Well, I will go now. ;)
[04:15] <Derpian> romy420, they usually do not give those anymore. they give partitions
[04:15] <Diegosan> check youtube for videos, sometimes some kid made a howto video
[04:15] <romy420> i know, u must create them yourself
[04:16] <Derpian> romy420, yeah you can with the partition.
[04:16] <romy420> but nowadays even this is not possible in some cases
[04:16] <IlikeMoose> cool, i killed the xorg process, and it automatically restarted kicking me out of run level 3 and throwing me right back into x
[04:16] <Derpian> IlikeMoose, everything all sorted out now?
[04:16] <romy420> if u can create them u can wipe the hd afterwards
[04:16] <terminhell> He has too many primary partitions
[04:16] <Derpian> terminhell, he could have deleted the unusable and made an extended
[04:16] <romy420> who would know if u needed the guarantee, u would reinstall windows
[04:17] <terminhell> nope
[04:17] <terminhell> he could have 3 primarys and 1 extended...
[04:17] <Derpian> OH yeah that is right
[04:17] <Derpian> or you could have one extended only I believe.
[04:17] <terminhell> yep
[04:17] <Derpian> HP is silly
[04:18] <Derpian> 4 primary partitions, clever clever
[04:18] <terminhell> sooo he's gonna have sack one of them =/
[04:18] <romy420> my toshiba is not better
[04:18] <romy420> same stuff
[04:18] <Derpian> I use a Lenovo Thinkpad T420 and Windows 7 puts 2 partitions (Boot and C:\). Lenovo put a Recovery. I have an extended for my Xubuntu install.
[04:18] <Derpian> Well he's using Wubi
[04:18] <Derpian> Honestly, wubi fit his description
[04:18] <romy420> i removed windows :)
[04:18] <Derpian> romy420, good on you. I need it for some things.
[04:19] <akem> Derpian, recover, system, data and ?
[04:19] <Derpian> akem, the other one is an extended with my Xubuntu install. Swap /home and /
[04:19] <romy420> Derpian, i can understand that
[04:19] <akem> ha ok.
[04:20] <romy420> so it boots from a logical partition?
[04:20] <Derpian> romy420, yep!
[04:20] <terminhell> im pure boot with Arch, but my partition scheme is simpler than most would like haha
[04:20] <romy420> ok
[04:20] <Derpian> romy420, has GRUB like normal!
[04:20] <romy420> i see
[04:21] <Derpian> I like Extended/Logical for GNU/Linux. If I ever want all my folders as partitions, I can do so
[04:21] <terminhell> i like LVM for some things
[04:21] <tchopper> I finally figured out that Unity 3D was slowing a lot of things down on me.
[04:21] <Diegosan> 4:20 8-)
[04:22] <tchopper> I switched to 2D and I'm not getting random freezes anymore.
[04:22] <L3top> tchopper: lspci -nn | grep VGA if you dont mind
[04:22] <terminhell> hurray tchopper
[04:22] <Derpian> tchopper, That's why I use XFCE
[04:22] <romy420> tchopper, that depends on your hardware
[04:23] <romy420> my desktop runs unity just fine and fast, my slow notebook ... not so nice
[04:23] <tchopper> lspci -nn | grep VGA gives me this:
[04:23] <tchopper> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GF106 [GeForce GTX 460M] [10de:0dd1] (rev a1)
[04:24] <Derpian> NVIDIA, there you go
[04:26] <tchopper> I was surprised to hear about Linux Torvalds flipping NVIDIA off. This notebook is from an Ubuntu vendor. I would think they'd choose Ubuntu-freindly hardware.
[04:26] <Derpian> tchopper, system76?
[04:28] <tchopper> Yes, System76. It's a Serval Pro 6. I got it about a year and a half ago.
[04:28] <terminhell> Linus has good reasons to hate nvidia
[04:28] <terminhell> and a lot of others too
[04:28] <terminhell> i watched that entire vid
[04:29] <terminhell> the hypocrisy being that nvidia relies heavily on linux to make proprietary drivers................
[04:29] <romy420> what is bad about them?
[04:30] <terminhell> that they then refuse to support the very thing that helps them
[04:31] <Derpian> romy420, what terminhell said ^
[04:31] <romy420> i have/had problems with ati too ... u say nvidia is worse?
[04:31] <Derpian> tchopper, I don't understand why they choose NVIDIA. Why not Intel? It's fine for what system76 aims for (Home use and some business use)
[04:31] <Derpian> ATI isn't an angel
[04:32] <Derpian> The only ATI I got working OOTB is one on my Thinkpad T41
[04:32] <terminhell> ATI used to be worse
[04:32] <Derpian> True ^
[04:33] <Derpian> we probably should be talking in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:33] <tchopper> System 76 starts with notebooks from Sager. Most of theirs seem like gamer machines. That explains the high-end graphics.
[04:33] <terminhell> i think ops are sleeping, they usually interject a lot sooner haha
[04:33] <romy420> you're right, doesnt belong here
[04:34] <tchopper> Is System76 off topic?
[04:34] <Derpian> tchopper: only if we are talking about the cool new one instead of support with them
[04:34] <romy420> yesterday the updates messed up my boot and it has to with ATI :)
[04:35] <Derpian> romy420: what card?
[04:35] <romy420> FirePro V4800 equals radeon 5670 i think it was
[04:35] <Derpian> romy420 ah
[04:35] <tchopper> Right now I'm torn. Unity 2D doesn't have random freezez, but I'm notiicing a lot of missing features. It also completely messes up YouTube videos when you try to go fullscreen.
[04:36] <romy420> i always boot into black screen after install and also after kernel updates
[04:36] <Derpian> tchopper: why not try XFCE
[04:36] <Derpian> romy420: why not always do that?
[04:36] <Derpian> tchopper: is your machine a desktop?
[04:37] <romy420> do what?
[04:37] <Derpian> romy420: boot to Terminal
[04:37] <terminhell> or gnome-shell, kde, etc, tons of other options. OR go really geekcore and use a tiling wm
[04:37] <tchopper> Derpian: I'm using a notebook from System76.
[04:37] <Derpian> tchopper: the newest laptops for system76 dont use nvidia but some of the desktops do
[04:37] <Derpian> tchopper: that is what I asked
[04:38] <Derpian> also romy420: I thought you said you boot to terminal, not blank screen. sorry lol
[04:38] <terminhell> i do it
[04:38] <terminhell> and startx manually
[04:38] <paulus68> squid when I define in squid that for instance google.com is not allowed in the standard logfile but all these entries needs to be logged in a seperate log squid writes the same info to both files? any thoughts on how to solve this?
[04:38] <terminhell> when i want a gui
[04:38] <romy420> no, not to terminal. the screen just gies black. this is a bug and can be fixed by adding 'nomodeset' to the kernel boot options and then forcing LINUX_GFX_MODE in /etc/default/grub
[04:38] <Derpian> I don't currently. I'm using an intel graphics
[04:38] <tchopper> gnome-shell 2D was fine too, I tried that earlier. I'll have to give full gnome-shell a shot.
[04:39] <terminhell> goodnight all
[04:39] <judg3> Night terminhell
[04:39] <Derpian> night
[04:39] <romy420> terminhell, i always want a gui ... godnight
[04:40] <Derpian> romy420: Alright, what DE do you use
[04:40] <romy420> DE? pls help me out
[04:40] <Derpian> romy420: Desktop environment
[04:40] <Derpian> !DE
[04:40] <Derpian> wow i thought that shows the definition of a DE, haha.
[04:41] <romy420> ah ... now unity on the pc and gnome3 on notebook
[04:41] <romy420> :)
[04:42] <Derpian> romy420, what is the computer with the ATI
[04:42] <romy420> both :) i ofund that the firepro (pc) works better with the ati driver and on the notebook i just have the radeon module
[04:42] <IlikeMoose> IdleOne, thanks that seemed to work much easier although it spit out some errors that said i should file a bug report
[04:44] <Derpian> romy420: I honestly just recommend XFCE, not sure if you will have issues or not with the ati updates but I'm sure the chances are less
[04:45] <romy420> Derpian, i think it actually the boot issue happens way before that. i did not try xfce for a long time ... way back i did not really like it
[04:46] <Derpian> romy420: alrighty
[04:47] <IlikeMoose> how do you change the hostname for a system?
[04:48] <romy420> it just seems as if the graphics mode for the framebuufer device is not set correctly, because when i set the variable in the grub configuration it works just fine but some noob might find that not so funny ;)
[04:49] <Derpian> Anybody have an idea how much space would be taken up if I installed everything in the repos
[04:50] <romy420> IlikeMoose, the hostname is defined in /etc/hostname, you can edit this file
[04:51] <IlikeMoose> romy420, thanks
[04:51] <romy420> ok ... i'll go sleep now ...bye
[04:51] <Derpian> bye
[04:58] <paulus68> squid when I define in squid that for instance google.com is not allowed in the standard logfile but all these entries needs to be logged in a seperate log squid writes the same info to both files? any thoughts on how to solve this?
[04:58] <SteevB2> can you run a smaba server in virtual box then access it on the same machine. Im jsut asking because im messing around with configuring a server. So im running ubuntu server in a virtual machine
[05:01] <Ryan__> hi
[05:01] <Ryan__> :3
[05:01] <martin__> hi
[05:01] <Ryan__> anyone having trouble with ubuntu 12.04lts and ati 6670 cards?
[05:10] <WhatWhereAmI> anybody have luck trying to install wine on amd64 from a repo? https://gist.github.com/3186272
[05:12] <magg> hey
[05:13] <magg> im trying to install the unity-webapps-preview package
[05:13] <magg> with this:  sudo apt-get install unity-webapps-preview
[05:14] <magg> he following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:14] <magg>  unity-webapps-preview : Depends: signon-plugins but it is not going to be installed
[05:14] <magg> but that happens...
[05:14] <magg> how do i fix this error
[05:14] <Diegosan> i want iceweasel web browser but ubuntu wont let me
[05:16] <lyle> anybody have luck trying to install wine on amd64 from a repo? https://gist.github.com/3186272
[05:16] <magg> anybody
[05:16] <magg> ?
[05:17] <kanupatar> hi guys, I have a doubt on one driver build.I have a source file suppose  a.c for a device a and I have the make file for it to build to get a ko like a.ko.in the a.c , I have a call to another file b.c.my question is how can i build b.c with a.c to make it as a.ko ? I have the sample makefile to share you guys   a-y = a.o b.o obj-m += a.o make -C /linux-2.6.35.3 ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=/arm-fsl-linux-gnueabi/bin/arm-none-linux-gnue
[05:18] <Anon025> do any girls in here mind if i talk to them about their jeans brands alot
[05:19] <smallfoot-> Anon025, its the wrong channel for that
[05:19] <smallfoot-> what do you need to know about girls jeans brands?
[05:19] <smallfoot-> if she wants Citizens of Humanity, its gonna cost you a lot
[05:20] <tchopper> IlikeMoose: Make sure you also update the hostname at the top of /etc/hosts and when you are done, run sudo service hostname restart
[05:21] <magn3ts> Is there a *good* reason that usb-creator-gtk refuses to use anything but ubuntu isos?
[05:22] <Spectacle_K> How do I manually edit my repositories? Where are the repos located?
[05:23] <Spectacle_K> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04.
[05:25] <smallfoot-> Spectacle_K, /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:25] <Spectacle_K> Where is /etc located?
[05:25] <Spectacle_K> How do I get there?
[05:25] <smallfoot-> in the root of the file system
[05:25] <Fyodorovna> Spectacle_K, here is a wiki as well.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[05:26] <smallfoot-> $ sudo gedit /etc/apt/source.list
[05:26] <smallfoot-> you can reach by running 'software-properties-gtk' too
[05:26] <RiXtEr> anyone know where I'd find logs for libnss_ldap?
[05:26] <smallfoot-> RiXtEr, perhaps /var/log/
[05:27] <RiXtEr> I don't see anything there right off... any certain file?
[05:27] <smallfoot-> no idea
[05:27] <Spectacle_K> My repo list is empty?
[05:27] <Spectacle_K> Isn't there supposed to be stuff written in there?
[05:28] <Spectacle_K> nvm
[05:28] <Spectacle_K> thanks
[05:33] <dru> RiXtEr: looks like the log file is specified in /etc/ldap.conf - add a directive like "logdir /var/log/libnss-ldap.log"
[05:34] <RiXtEr> dru, thanks!
[05:34] <dru> might need to specify a debug level too "debug 0" - some suggestion that not all the client libs support it outside of being specifically compiled for debug data
[05:35] <dru> heh, if that helps , you're welcome
[05:38] <paulus68> squid when I define in squid that for instance google.com is not allowed in the standard logfile but all these entries needs to be logged in a seperate log squid writes the same info to both files? any thoughts on how to solve this?
[05:41] <tchopper> paulus68: You could try asking in #squid
[05:42] <paulus68> tchopper: #squid is most of the time sleeping :(
[05:46] <sad301> Hellow :-)
[05:47]  * audrianore shrugs.
[05:47] <audrianore> What time is it? :/
[05:49] <GirlyGirl> Hi, I have Kubuntu 12.04 and Windows dualbooted. I recently replaced windows 7 with Xp, thus grub is no longer in MBR, anyone knows how I can restore the Grub bootloader without a livecd. In w7 I could boot ubuntu with easybcd but this doesn't work on XP
[05:50] <smallfoot-> why u replaced win7 with winxp? winxp sucks!
[05:50] <ganster> hi
[05:51] <audrianore> GirlyGirl, unfortunately, you must use LiveCD, or LiveUSB to re-install the Grub bootloader.
[05:51] <smallfoot-> hi
[05:52] <GirlyGirl> smallfoot-: That's my problem concerning os's that I chose
[05:52] <smallfoot-> yes
[05:52] <smallfoot-> but winxp is going EOL (end of life) soon in a year or two, then you wont get any updates, not even security updates
[05:52] <GirlyGirl> audrianore: Actually there are things that add linux boot entries to xp's bootloader like Android X86 and even WUBI so it mus be possible
[05:53] <GirlyGirl> smallfoot-: I know
[05:53] <audrianore> smallfoot-, true.
[05:53] <smallfoot-> GirlyGirl, wubi doesn't boot a ext4 partition, it just runs an .exe file that loopmounts a virtual image
[05:53] <audrianore> Oh, you mean you want to add Ubuntu to Windows boot loader, right?
[05:53] <GirlyGirl> smallfoot-: I'm using it till then , after that I have a server 2003 license to last me till 2015
[05:54] <GirlyGirl> smallfoot-: By then I'll have fully migrated to KDE / Kubuntu environment for the stuff that I need Windows for
[05:54] <audrianore> GirlyGirl, that's only available if you install Ubuntu via Wubi.
[05:54] <Diegosan> i still <3 XP even tho its sucks
[05:54] <smallfoot-> Diegosan, the font rendering in xp makes my eye bleed
[05:55] <Diegosan> its good at 1024x768 :P
[05:55] <audrianore> Hahaha, the old standard resolution. :D
[05:55] <Anon615> this may be weird but i have crazy obsession with women in jeans especially certian brands is there anyone i can talk about it with
[05:55] <smallfoot-> doubt so, but i run 1920x1200
[05:55] <GirlyGirl> smallfoot-: Diegosan Enable cleartype and use Segoe UI font and its as good as w7
[05:55] <smallfoot-> Anon615, this is the wrong channel for that
[05:56] <smallfoot-> Anon615, u can pm me lol
[05:56] <judg3> Anon615: This is the wrong channel for that
[05:56] <smallfoot-> GirlyGirl, thanks
[05:56] <audrianore> Anon615, were you talking about your fetish? -_-
[05:56] <GirlyGirl> Anyways is there a small download that I can use instead of an Ubuntu disk for restoring grub?
[05:57] <GirlyGirl> I just need to chroot into the ext4 partition and I know how to do the rest
[05:57] <Anon615> yes but its easier to talk about in private with someone
[05:58] <audrianore> GirlyGirl, never heard of it before.
[05:58] <GirlyGirl> audrianore: Heard of what?
[05:58] <Anon615> sorry everyone
[05:58] <audrianore> GirlyGirl, small download that you can use instead of an Ubuntu disk for restoring grub.
[06:00] <Fyodorovna> GirlyGirl, you might gtry this to boot it then do the grub from the desktop  http://www.supergrubdisk.org/super-grub2-disk/
[06:00] <Fyodorovna> try*
[06:01] <MackAsaga> Time to sleep.
[06:18] <brophat> anyway to have the dash not show all the recent stuff?
[06:18] <audrianore> What Ubuntu version, brophat?
[06:19] <brophat> 12.04
[06:19] <audrianore> You can do it from System Settings > Privacy
[06:19] <smallfoot-> yeh, i dont like unity, i think its dumb lol
[06:19] <brophat> ok thanks
[06:19] <audrianore> You're welcome.
[06:20] <smallfoot-> i install gnome-session-classic, then ubuntu is like 11.04
[06:20] <smallfoot-> or 10.10 or whatever, before unity lol
[06:20] <audrianore> Hahaha yeah, you don't like XP, and you don't like Unity, what do you like the most?
[06:22] <brophat> buitiful is that new on 12.04 audrianore?
[06:23] <audrianore> What, the privacy setting, brophat?
[06:25] <audrianore> Hello, islandmonkey.
[06:25] <islandmonkey> Hello there.
[06:31] <dragonbao8891> so many people
[06:32] <audrianore> Yeah...
[06:32] <audrianore> Around 1500 people here, and all I see is join/part messages.
[06:35] <islandmonkey> Crikey, no questions in 10 minutes?
[06:35] <islandmonkey> Since I joined
[06:35] <audrianore> Yeah...
[06:35] <Derpian> this is an english channel and I think most the users are from the US
[06:36] <Derpian> EST it is 2:36 AM
[06:36] <audrianore> Maybe, not for me, hehe.
[06:36] <islandmonkey> BST it is 7:36 AM
[06:36] <audrianore> Oh, it's 1:36 PM here.
[06:36] <bluebomber> Is there anyway that I can change the settings for the ALT-PRTSC (takes a screenshot of the current window) so that it does not include the window's border or menubar?
[06:36] <Derpian> in the US, most people are sleeping right now
[06:37] <audrianore> bluebomber, no, i think.
[06:37] <islandmonkey> And everyone is just about to wake up here in the UK.
[06:37] <islandmonkey> Not of course, at once ;)
[06:39] <bluebomber> audrianore, the command I want is $ gnome-screenshot -wB
[06:39] <bluebomber> audrianore, I'm trying to hack together a custom shortcut...
[06:39] <paulus68> squid when I define in squid that for instance google.com is not allowed in the standard logfile but all these entries needs to be logged in a seperate log squid writes the same info to both files? any thoughts on how to solve this?
[06:39] <audrianore> bluebomber, okay. Do you have gconf-editor, or ccsm?
[06:39] <audrianore> Wow, he quit when I was about to answer him.
[06:41] <audrianore> bluebomber, okay. Do you have gconf-editor, or ccsm?
[06:43] <audrianore> bluebomber, okay. Do you have gconf-editor, or ccsm?
[06:43] <alazare619> why is koffice not in ppa?
[06:43] <alazare619> repository **
[06:43] <IlikeMoose> question, does anyone know of a good program to convert a .pdf to a txt file ?
[06:44] <audrianore> Wow?
[06:49] <beata> Right. I'm having an issue with firewire disks, pulled out an old liveCD to double check. Works under 8.04, worked once on 10.04 but generally fails; fdisk -l /dev/sdb: Disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table. 10.04 with the backported 3.0.0 kernel ends up with hung kworker tasks.
[06:50] <scottj> is there a way to force gtk3 apps to use gtk2 theme?
[06:56] <paulus68> IlikeMoose: perhaps this might be usefull http://www.shibuvarkala.com/2008/11/howto-convert-pdf-to-txt-in-ubuntu.html
[06:57] <IlikeMoose> paulus68, thanks, just found that a few minutes ago
[06:58] <IlikeMoose> i should have tried google before wasting the channels time
[06:58] <paulus68> IlikeMoose: no worries
[07:00] <IlikeMoose> paulus68, do you read pdf's on any handheld devices?
[07:10] <nannes> Hello
[07:10] <paulus68> IlikeMoose: no sorry
[07:10] <namoamitabuddha> Is there any good music player?
[07:11] <audrianore> Clementine?
[07:11] <namoamitabuddha> Does it support for increasing/decreasing the speed?
[07:12] <deepspeed> I don't think so.
[07:12] <audrianore> Oh you were looking for that feature? Why not try VLC?
[07:12] <deepspeed> There are several music players, and there are also players that can manipulate the speed of playback.
[07:12] <deepspeed> like playitslowly
[07:12] <deepspeed> and some others.
[07:12] <namoamitabuddha> Does moc support that?
[07:13] <deepspeed> goggles music manager, amarok, banshee, VLC, and deadbeef are all on my system.
[07:13] <deepspeed> I find them all pretty decent.
[07:13] <namoamitabuddha> VLC is on my system, but I do not know the key binding.
[07:14] <audrianore> Open the preference, you can set the key bindings.
[07:14] <rajesh-purswani> hiii
[07:15] <namoamitabuddha> See, [ and ]
[07:15] <namoamitabuddha> just like mplayer
[07:16] <namoamitabuddha> but I cannot see the speed in the program.
[07:18] <andromedo> hola  hola
[07:18] <andromedo> buenas  noches
[07:18] <andromedo> cuantos linuxeros por aqui?
[07:18] <andromedo> alguien que   utilize linux para hacer produccion musical?
[07:19] <andromedo> ningun linuxero productor o ingeniero de  audio por aqui?
[07:20] <saruji> Hey guys, about to buy a thinkpad x230t laptop and have a choice for Intel Centrino Wireless-N 2200 or Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 AGN which one would work better with ubuntu 12.10?
[07:20] <scottj> Xorg is really fast for me in Ubuntu 12.04 with xvideo and xrandr working great, but when I use Debian neither of those work and everything is laggy. I have xserver-xorg-video-radeon/ati installed on both, no xorg.conf in either, and no fglrx in either, both appear to be xorg 1.11. Can anyone think what else might be different that I should check?
[07:20] <knytmare> Use English please
[07:21] <Jeffsi> Hello, I installed ubuntu through wubi but it gave me errors so i removed it. The grub part was left on and now I am unable to boot in to windows. When booting i am given a grub recover type prompt (i don't remember exactly what it was called). I am now stuck and unsure on how I may be able to recover the original MBR or at least get in to windows.
[07:22] <masoudy> Jeffsi, you need a windows dvd
[07:22] <geirha> Jeffsi: By remove, do you mean you uninstalled it? The uninstaller should've fixed up the boot manager.
[07:23] <timfrost> !en | andromedo
[07:23] <knytmare> Jeffsi: use ur windows installer to recover the boot.ini of windows
[07:23] <Jeffsi> I opened up wubi and hit uninstall (i think i may have done this wrong). Also the only windows dvd i have are xp and vista
[07:24] <Jeffsi> neither of which have worked (I have 7)
[07:24] <saruji> Hey guys, about to buy a thinkpad x230t laptop and have a choice for Intel Centrino Wireless-N 2200 or Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 AGN which one would work better with ubuntu 12.10? anyone?
[07:25] <namoamitabuddha> saruji: Ubuntu 12.10 is not stable now.
[07:25] <masoudy> Jeffsi, search google about "how to recover windows MBR", it's a common problem. but I think you'll need a windows 7 dvd after all
[07:26] <Jeffsi> masoudy:  is there any alternative?
[07:26] <Jeffsi> i think my windows disks too scratched and will no longer boot
[07:26] <saruji> namoamitabuddha: sorry i mean 12.04
[07:26] <namoamitabuddha> Jeffsi: Use grub2.
[07:26] <masoudy> Jeffsi, you can use the grub to boot windows, "chainload it"
[07:26] <knytmare> Jeffsi: I cant recall since it happened to me b4 like 2001 ago :x cant remeber, u just need to fix the boot ini so i think, if you try to use any windows installer and use the start up repair
[07:26] <auronandace> Jeffsi: ask in ##windows
[07:26] <saruji> namoamitabuddha: or any other version of ubuntu from previous versions
[07:27] <knytmare> Jeffsi that should fix it, but you will need a win7 installer, so i sugget reinstalling ubuntu then fix ur mbr there
[07:28] <pnorman> I upgraded to 12.04 but it seems to of broken my munin server setup. There is no longer a symbolic link to the munin conf file in the appropriate apache conf directory. I tried running dpkg-reconfigure munin but it didn't fix it. Any suggestions?
[07:30] <Jeffsi> knytmare: to be honest i don't want ubuntu on my main drive anymore, ill throw it on a flash drive. For now I just want my windows os working again
[07:30] <auronandace> Jeffsi: ask in ##windows
[07:30] <knytmare> then use a pendrive :x
[07:32] <robertzaccour> hey yall
[07:32] <knytmare> jeffsi use a pendrive if you dont want to install it, then you can fix the mbr errors there, i no longer use windows except for gamin so i can recall how to how--but your problems seesm to be simple, use google to look any win 7 bootsec.exe file then or any auxillary of it then copy paste is to you win drive then problem solve
[07:33] <knytmare> *i cant --- sorry about the mistypes need to go now--- office hour is over :x
[07:34] <knytmare> jeffsi google holds the answer :x
[07:35] <dape8708> hello, well seems like i'm stuck with unity 2d on my acer laptop with intel hd3000 and GF108 GeForce GT 540M so ive read some tutorials online but i'm not sure its safe to go ahead and fall back to an old nvidia driver..
[07:35] <dape8708> any advices on how to proceed with safety in mind?
[07:36] <robertzaccour> hey ubottu
[07:38] <tdskate> hi
[07:41] <BotaniCar> i0m installing ubuntu 12.04 on a RAID+LVM  , mount shows me i have /dev/mapper/DIG--RM2B-root , but i can't instal GRUB on it, is there a way to find a suitable location for GRUB ?
[07:42] <Jeffsi> thank you for the help, i ill try to repair my windows 7 disk or ask a neighbor tomorrow
[07:42] <ResQue> does the standard 64bit ubuntu 12.04 LTS cd iso have UEFI support build in?
[07:42] <robertzaccour> Is there any software for Linux I can use to make Android apps?
[07:43] <aLeSD|> hi all
[07:43] <ResQue> i need to boot the cd from mac efi, so i can compile and install 64bit efi grub
[07:43] <day> robertzaccour: all you need is the right compiler
[07:43] <aLeSD|> what's the name of the app that monitorize the chashes ?
[07:43] <aLeSD|> I'd like to deactivate it
[07:44] <auronandace> ResQue: just so you are aware: efi and uefi are different
[07:44] <ResQue> auronandace: thanks auronandace, i am aware
[07:44] <robertzaccour> day, do you know how?
[07:45] <day> robertzaccour: nope. never wrote a program for android
[07:45] <ResQue> auronandace: the reason i am asking here, is in the last version of ubuntu there was a serious bug and i wanted to make sure that everything is ok and that efi boot support is built in to the default 64bit 12.04 LTS
[07:46] <auronandace> ResQue: i've never used efi or uefi so i wouldn't know sorry
[07:46] <ResQue> auronandace:  no worries
[07:46] <robertzaccour> day, I was hoping there was some step by step software creating tool
[07:46] <robertzaccour> something simple
[07:47] <day> robertzaccour: did you check this out: http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
[07:47] <ResQue> the dvd has nearly downloaded so i will have a look in the iso, should be a few efi files in there if it is
[07:48] <robertzaccour> day, looks complicated. I was hoping for automated templates with different layouts and easy drag/drop/text customization
[07:49] <robertzaccour> day, thanks anyhow though. I'll look into it after I wake up.
[07:49] <day> robertzaccour: im pretty sure it will take some time ;) programming isnt drag and drop :P
[07:51] <robertzaccour> day, yeah, but it would be nice to have automated templates like that available. I would love to make my own apps quickly and easily
[08:04] <Erwyn> robertzaccour: future is in web applicaton on mobile devices
[08:04] <Erwyn> go html5/javascript
[08:05] <Erwyn> with stuff like backbone/ember and so on…
[08:06] <robertzaccour> goin to sleep
[08:06] <robertzaccour> later yall
[08:11] <obakfahad> HI ?
[08:13] <rajumoh> ?
[08:14] <Guest2430> hi, i am trying to edit my sources.list, and its read only, I also have no option to change cmod or any type of perms
[08:15] <rajumoh> try with sudo
[08:15] <DJones> Guest2430: you need to use either sudo or gksudo to modify your sources list, so sudo nano .... or gksudo gedit ...
[08:15] <Guest2430> can I add a repo in terminal?
[08:16] <smallfoot-> yes
[08:16] <day> Guest2430: with nano :P
[08:16] <hydrox24> My canon MP640 isn't working properly, ubuntu can detect it over the network and i have drivers that I know work, but when I print anything, e.g. a test page, the job completes after a few seconds without the printer giving ANY indication.
[08:16] <Guest2430> ok, much thanks
[08:16] <smallfoot-> Guest2430, /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:16] <smallfoot-> Guest2430, $ sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:16] <day> guest2430: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:16] <smallfoot-> I'll follow you and make a heaven out of hell and I'll die by your hand which I love so well
[08:16] <Guest2430> ah
[08:17] <Guest2430> i shall try that
[08:17] <Guest2430> thanks
[08:23] <ocx> whats a good open source ERP software to be installed on linux?
[08:23] <ocx> somethign stable and reliable
[08:23] <ocx> any ideas
[08:24] <xenarra> hi
[08:24] <xenarra> hilla
[08:24] <indigoferal> Hi, am encountering a very strange problem with ubuntu 12.04 on a nvidia card based 64 bit laptop. Problem is being described below
[08:24] <ResQue> when i try to boot 64bit efi 12.04 i get the error "error prefix is not set"
[08:24] <ResQue> anyone have an idea of what this means?
[08:25] <indigoferal> The machine is dual/ triple boot enabled - wincedows, linux os 1 and linux os2 -swap and a separate /home
[08:25] <hydrox24> ResQue: can you say at what stage you get this error?
[08:26] <indigoferal> it was running linux mint since the first install in 2010 - with no problems (64 bit version). A few days i tried to install ubuntu - i did this on the second partition set aside for a second linux os. This worked fine but it crashed the original install
[08:26] <ResQue> hydrox24: it is the first message that appears, so i am guessing the boot stage, maybe before the kernal boot as it happends stright away. but as there is no grub on the dvd it is hard to tell. nothing else appears on the screen before the error message (text or images)
[08:27] <indigoferal> Then i spent 10 hours yesterday trying ti reinstall with various boot flags and also trying to reinstall nvidia drivers and also trying to configure xorg.conf
[08:28] <ResQue> hydrox24: i get this error message when booting from the 64bit 12.04 install cd, i can happly boot the already isntalled 32bit version of 12.04 from grub no issues
[08:29] <indigoferal> nothing worked, every single time it would install succesfully and when i tried to login it would reach the login screen and after loggin in it would just flash back to the login screen. The xorg error was  Fatal Error "no screens found"
[08:29] <sophtpaw> hi
[08:29] <hydrox24> ResQue: Are you sure that the computer is 64-bit (I have made this mistake before)
[08:30] <hydrox24> !ask | sophtpaw
[08:30] <hydrox24> sophtpaw: Hi!
[08:30] <ResQue> hydrox24: 100% and i check the EFI version as well, its efi 64bit
[08:30] <ResQue> hydrox24: its a macbook pro, i used the ioreg command to confirm
[08:30] <sophtpaw> question: I'm running xfce on a laptop. I presumed that the lighter the window manager the less the laptop would have to work, which in turn, I further presumed, equals a cool laptop. Can anyone confirm this hypothesis?
[08:31] <sophtpaw> I previously tried kde and gnome and my feeling is that xfce is making this laptop run hotter than either and considerably heavier window managers, kde and gnome. kde seemed to make my laptop run the coolest. Would appreciate some feedback and advice - thank you.
[08:31] <dape8708> sophtpaw, could be but make sure you tweak power management settings anyway
[08:31] <fidel> sophtpaw: powertop could be interesting
[08:32] <fidel> sophtpaw: if you have some kind of hybrid gfx (i.e. optimus) - and dont use the powerful part - consider disabling it. that should result in longer battery & cooler device as well
[08:33] <hydrox24> ResQue: ahh, well I would be following a tutorial for your specific Mac model, they can be a huge pain, especially with EFI.
[08:33] <sophtpaw> fidel, that sounds promising. how/where do i find and disable this, please?
[08:34] <sophtpaw> fidel just apt-get installed powertop (previously uninstalled)
[08:34] <Taneb> I'm trying to get WiFi on my computer but the wireless thing isn't showing up in lspci
[08:34] <fidel> sophtpaw: regarding gfx - well check what gx you are using in the first place and if its a hybrid one
[08:34] <ResQue> hydrox24: guess i will have to look in to this further
[08:34] <Taneb> Advice?
[08:35] <ResQue> i cant even find a difinitive answer on what the error message even means, maybe something to do with efi variables
[08:35] <hydrox24> Taneb: make sure that the card is well seated, try googling for the driver (I'm short on time now, sorry.)
[08:35] <sophtpaw> fidel, yes, can you tell me how, sorry.
[08:37] <Taneb> hydrox24, the card is well seated and the CD that came with it has a Linux driver that doesn't work?
[08:37] <fidel> sophtpaw: no ... but you should easily be able to cover that first step yourself if you spend some minutes searching ;)
[08:38] <hydrox24> j
[08:40] <Taneb> I follow the instructions but it ends with...
[08:40] <linuxuz3r> how do i know what version of ubuntu im running?
[08:40] <llutz> linuxuz3r: lsb_release -a
[08:41] <Taneb> "ifconfig ra0 inet YOUR_IP up"
[08:42] <Taneb> Which errors because there is no device ra0
[08:43] <sophtpaw> fidel I type sudo powertop and get output, but don't know how to interpret it
[08:44] <sophtpaw> fidel, can you say more about optimus?
[08:44] <sophtpaw> hybrid gfx?
[08:48] <asi> hi
[08:54] <ocx> whats a good open source ERP software to be installed on linux?
[08:55] <Tm_T> ocx: this is not a good channel for making polls like that, you may try #ubuntu-offtopic or other linux or erp related chat channels instead
[08:55] <chroot> hi, anyone installed raid on ubuntu?
[08:56] <chroot> i am interesting with a single pc or laptop, can i install raid on my machine?
[08:56] <Tm_T> chroot: yes
[08:57] <chroot> Tm_T: is it possible install raid on my laptop?
[08:58] <Tm_T> chroot: you undestand what raid is?
[08:58] <chroot> Tm_T: a little,
[08:59] <Tm_T> if your laptop isn't having multiple hard drives, I'm unsure what you're trying to do and how I could help you best (:
[08:59] <Kpuc> Hey does anybody know the "alt+tab switch" bug in ubuntu 12.04? Is there any solution about this?
[08:59] <chroot> i heard it store you data on serveral harddisk, so you can retrieve your data concurrently
[09:00] <chroot> am i right?
[09:00] <InstantKrimson> how many disks do you have in your laptop?
[09:00] <chroot> one 500G
[09:00] <InstantKrimson> raid requires at least 2 disks
[09:01] <chroot> so , it is impossible to achive that
[09:01] <InstantKrimson> at least hard... :-)
[09:02] <InstantKrimson> you'd still probably get better performance with a SSD disk
[09:02] <DJones> chroot: Are you able to put two physical hard drives in your laptop, not just 1 drive partitioned into 2
[09:02] <InstantKrimson> and less noise and heat (can be a big problem with a laptop=
[09:02] <bindi> byebye batterylife
[09:03] <do> do I need to run an anti-virus software on Ubuntu?
[09:03] <DJones> do: Generally no
[09:03] <DJones> !virus | do
[09:03] <chroot> DJones: no
[09:05] <do> so you say that I'd be safe with a good firewall?(I have one in my router,but should I run it on the PC also?)
[09:05] <DJones> chroot: Raid needs a minimum of two drives, so if one fails, the others still have the data on
[09:06] <chroot> do: you don't need anti-virus, i use ubuntu for some time, and there is no virus problem.
[09:06] <hydrox24> blah
[09:06] <chroot> DJones: yes, is it a little faster when using raid than normal?
[09:06] <InstantKrimson> DJones & Chroot: or you use both disks to increase performance
[09:07] <InstantKrimson> but you are more vulnearble to disk failures
[09:07] <DJones> chroot: I don't use raid, so I can't compare how speed is affected/improved
[09:07] <chroot> DJones: I mean with raid, your data is distributed on several disks, so when retrieve your data, it is concurrency.
[09:07] <InstantKrimson> with 3 disks you can have both performance and reliability
[09:08] <InstantKrimson> 3 disks or more
[09:08] <chroot> InstantKrimson: yes, agree.
[09:09] <InstantKrimson> I have raided 4 disks, got a very noticable perfomance increase (from about 40 MB/S on one disk to about 90 MB/S with all 4)
[09:09] <chroot> InstantKrimson: wow!
[09:09] <chroot> InstantKrimson: you must have a server machine.
[09:09] <InstantKrimson> but if you only have 2 disks and make a RAID 1 (mirroring), the performance increase is barely noticalbe
[09:10] <chroot> InstantKrimson: yeah.
[09:11] <InstantKrimson> if you use RAID 0 (striping) you can get good performance, but if just one of the disks fail, ALL your data is lost (since half of all your information is on each disk)
[09:12] <chroot> InstantKrimson: the broken possibility is very high with raid0?
[09:14] <InstantKrimson> that depends on the disks... :-) In my experience, diskfailures are not that common if you only use the disks for about 3 years...
[09:14] <InstantKrimson> But if we contrast that with RAID0, either disk can break and you still have all your data(since each disk has a complete copy of all files)
[09:15] <||arifaX> InstantKrimson: there is also a problem with "old" raid5 disks. if one fails data has to be recoverd from the other disks. often (when disks are same age) the others have errors too and recovery will fail.so if you are able to mirror and then raid would be the best choice
[09:15] <chroot> InstantKrimson: understand
[09:15] <InstantKrimson> RAID 10?
[09:15] <NikoPoliakov> quit
[09:16] <||arifaX> ^yep
[09:17] <InstantKrimson> but you also loose 50% of disk space I think
[09:17] <InstantKrimson> but if it's mission critical, that can certainly be worth it
[09:17] <||arifaX> that's true and always have a 3-2-1 backup, too
[09:18] <||arifaX> 3 copies in 2 locations 1 offsite
[09:18] <InstantKrimson> yupp, never put all your eggs in one (RAID) basket
[09:18] <indigoferal> Hi, am encountering a very strange problem with ubuntu 12.04 on a nvidia card based 64 bit laptop. Problem is being described below
[09:18] <indigoferal> The machine is dual/ triple boot enabled - wincedows, linux os 1 and linux os2 -swap and a separate /home
[09:18] <indigoferal> it was running linux mint since the first install in 2010 - with no problems (64 bit version). A few days i tried to install ubuntu - i did this on the second partition set aside for a second linux os. This worked fine but it crashed the original install
[09:18] <indigoferal> Then i spent 10 hours yesterday trying ti reinstall with various boot flags and also trying to reinstall nvidia drivers and also trying to configure xorg.conf
[09:18] <FloodBot1> indigoferal: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:18] <indigoferal> nothing worked, every single time it would install succesfully and when i tried to login it would reach the login screen and after loggin in it would just flash back to the login screen. The xorg error was  Fatal Error "no screens found"
[09:18] <indigoferal> Sorry about that, long question, did not want it to be fragmented
[09:22] <troulouliou_dev> hi where are the opncl libs in the repos ?
[09:22] <troulouliou_dev> opencl
[09:25] <ThinkT510> !find opencl | troulouliou_dev
[09:25] <chroot> hi, dose kvm support load balance in ubuntu ?
[09:25] <troulouliou_dev> ThinkT510, so i just hae the headers ?
[09:26] <ThinkT510> troulouliou_dev: not sure sorry, thats all the search brought up
[09:26] <troulouliou_dev> yeah thanks wonder where the libs are , maybe shipped with the nvidia driver
[09:27] <ThinkT510> troulouliou_dev: unless opencl is named differently in the repos then thats all there is
[09:28] <blackshirt> good evening
[09:41] <bouma> should i install the boot loader on sda or sda1? with win7 on sda2 and sda3. which is recomended ?
[09:41] <cfhowlett> bouma: usually just put it on sda
[09:42] <luko> hi
[09:42] <Church> bouma: with both win7 & linux i usually use windows bootloader to chainload linux bootloader from sda1
[09:42] <cfhowlett> luko: greetings
[09:42] <bcao> I ways put it on sda
[09:42] <Church> so that even if windows fsck up and reinstall bootloader in mbr (or sda in this case), i can still boot linux just fine
[09:43] <Church> try googling "windows 7 linux dual boot bcdedit"
[09:44] <Church> in general it involves geting with dd copy of boot record from where linux bootloader is installed in and configuring it in windows bootloader using bcdedit
[09:48] <OerHeks> !lock
[09:50] <fircx> Hello guys can someone please help me with dual monitor configuration ? I install the Nvidia driver and than In nvidia x server setting i configured displays but one is white blank and i cant move the applications
[09:51] <fircx> without a Nvidia driver it worked fine but with driver enabled everything works smoother
[09:51] <fircx> but not the second monitor
[09:52] <fircx> my ubuntu version is 12.04
[09:52] <fircx> 3.2.0-27-generic #43-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 6 14:25:57 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:55] <golden_fish> "stat dict" has no defult dictionary i need one, where would i get one that work for real
[09:55] <chroot> is hi, i find firefox took too muck mem and cpu in ubuntu?
[09:55] <chroot> is that normal
[09:56] <golden_fish> there are some dictionary that not working http://sourceforge.net/projects/xdxf/files/dicts-stardict-form-xdxf/
[09:57] <fidel> chroot: that might depend on what pages you visit , what plugins you use and several other aspects
[09:57] <fidel> how about just testing another browser if you think FF is resource-hungry for you?
[09:57] <golden_fish> how to make starDict work
[09:58] <golden_fish> the dictionary list are empty
[09:58] <chroot> yes, but nomaly, it took 12% cpu and 5.6% mem
[09:58] <chroot> for normal pages
[09:58] <chroot> how about yours
[09:58] <fidel> !enter > chroot
[09:59] <fidel> chroot: you cant compare procentual cpu usage values without even knowing my box specs
[09:59] <golden_fish> need help here !
[09:59] <fidel> i.e. i am working on a 2,8ghz intel xeon, with a virtualized ubuntu via vmware - how will this value tell you anything compared to your machine  - using other hardware and partly other software
[10:00] <Aca_floss> Hello everyone.
[10:00] <fidel> chroot: in short - dont compare cpu usage ;)
[10:00] <Aca_floss> I have one question.
[10:00] <golden_fish> need help here /!\
[10:00] <fidel> !patience > golden_fish
[10:00] <Aca_floss> What's difference between GTK+3 and GTK3?
[10:00] <chroot> yes,
[10:01] <golden_fish> okay , sorry
[10:01] <yusufaliboz> hi anybody can see my message?
[10:02] <golden_fish> i can
[10:02] <Aca_floss> Please help me.
[10:02] <Aca_floss> What's difference between GTK+3 and GTK3?
[10:03] <fidel> Aca_floss: how is that question ubuntu-specific? just wondering
[10:03] <Myrtti> Aca_floss: its the same thing
[10:03] <yusufaliboz> exit
[10:03] <Aca_floss> Myrtti: Thank you.
[10:04] <Myrtti> Aca_floss: gtk3 and gnome3 are diffe....
[10:08] <loculinuxgallego> ña
[10:10] <PizarroNET> Hi all
[10:11] <feear> Hey all
[10:11] <PizarroNET> We are a small company with overseas branches. We ant to share files among us and with external customers. Is it possible to use Ubuntu Server Cloud to deploy in each office server so we all can share the same file system or something? Thanks.
[10:12] <incog> yes, hello
[10:13] <PizarroNET> incog: is there any document expanding this?
[10:13] <PizarroNET> incog: I've read all the Ubuntu Server Cloud page and features, but for me it is still unclear what is it for?
[10:15] <PizarroNET> hello again
[10:15] <PizarroNET> so is it possible?
[10:16] <DJones> PizarroNET: Its a bit quiet here at the minute, it may take a bit for somebody to answer
[10:16] <PizarroNET> incog: Judging by your last comment, "so is it possible?" I think you might be interested in this: http://linuxforniggers.us/download
[10:16] <PizarroNET> What is that link?
[10:17] <LjL> PizarroNET: how about not linking to such stuff
[10:17] <PizarroNET> LjL: It was sent to me by incog
[10:18] <LjL> PizarroNET: yeah, i figured. however next time please report stuff like this in #ubuntu-ops instead of propagating it here :)
[10:18] <DJones> PizarroNET: They've already been removed from teh channel
[10:18] <PizarroNET> LjL: ok sorry, I did so so the op of this channel takes action
[10:18] <LjL> PizarroNET: alright
[10:18] <DJones> PizarroNET: They sent it to me as well
[10:18] <PizarroNET> DJones: ok thanks, I found it really offensive
[10:18] <golden_fish> i need to change the owner of a folder and the sub folder in it to me ?
[10:18] <xro> Hi, is there a way t get multitouch with ubuntu 12.04 and unity?
[10:20] <OerHeks> xro it should be possible, maybe #ubuntu-touch can help
[10:21] <xro> ok... i'll take a look... tank you
[10:22] <yahooshua> is there a shortcut key for 12.04 which spreads all windows?
[10:23] <geirha> yahooshua: super + w   iirc
[10:24] <ThinkT510> yahooshua: hold down the super key (windows logo) to see the shortcuts
[10:24] <yahooshua> geirha: awesome thanx. Why isn't that on the overlay when you hold down super? or is it?
[10:24] <yahooshua> nevermind
[10:24] <yahooshua> it is
[10:24] <yahooshua> lol must be late
[10:26] <carl1> Any examples about creating unity menus without using GApplication?
[10:27] <chroot> hi, anyone who use usernet or ever used?
[10:28] <golden_fish> i will go now, brb
[10:29] <hucsy> help
[10:30] <DJones> hucsy: You need to explain what the problem is first, so that people know what you need help with
[10:31] <hucsy> can you read my words in Japanese
[10:31] <prak> Hello everyone, Can anyone help me on setting TWO NIC cards on my ubuntu 12.04 machine
[10:31] <hucsy> ¤ÎÁ¼¤¤
[10:31] <hucsy> i m sorry
[10:33] <hucsy> can you read my words in Japanese  ¤ÎÁ¼¤¤
[10:33] <Xabster> no
[10:33] <hucsy> and,english?£¿
[10:34] <Xabster> hucsy: what is the problem?
[10:34] <hucsy> someone said£¬ cant read my japanese words
[10:34] <Xabster> that's because you didn't write any
[10:35] <Xabster> also, your sentences have garbage characters in them
[10:36] <hucsy> i dont know how to Solve
[10:37] <Xabster> why don't you use a decent client?
[10:37] <Xabster> and why are you in ubuntu asking this stuff?
[10:37] <Xabster> you're on a windows pc, no?
[10:37] <AdvoWork> hi there, if i click on say home(folder) i'm looking for the location bar so I can physically type in a location. Any ideas please? i'm on 12.04
[10:38] <fidel> AdvoWork: talking about nautilus/ thunar or ?
[10:38] <hucsy> yes
[10:38] <hucsy> pc
[10:38] <AdvoWork> fidel, that i'm not sure, any idea how I find that out?
[10:38] <fidel> AdvoWork: you dont know what app you are using?
[10:39] <fidel> AdvoWork: if so - shame on you -> click help -> about ;)
[10:39] <AdvoWork> fidel, its just the default file browser on a new installation, so i assume nautilius?
[10:39] <Guest80119> hi what comand do i use if i want to delete a directory which is not empty?
[10:39] <fidel> Guest80119: basically 'rm' - but read the man page for the needed parameters,. starting point: man rm
[10:39] <hucsy> opera
[10:40] <fidel> hucsy: what is your native language?
[10:40] <fidel> hucsy: and is your problem ubuntu-related or not?
[10:41] <hucsy> chinese
[10:41] <fidel> !cn > hucsy
[10:42] <AdvoWork> fidel, so any ideas? its nautilis 3.4.2
[10:42] <hucsy> = =
[10:42] <fidel> AdvoWork: rephrase your question - and lets see ;)
[10:43] <hucsy> i am going to leave
[10:43] <blackshirt> why
[10:44] <hucsy> it s too difficult to solve
[10:44] <blackshirt> i'm too
[10:44] <hucsy> thank you
[10:44] <blackshirt> Good luck
[10:44] <Guest80119> its in the root directory i tryed i have used the following command: sudo rmdir [directory name] and it sayed directory is not empty.
[10:45] <blackshirt> you can't do it
[10:45] <fidel> AdvoWork: seems like you might need to use gconf editor ro enable a user-enterable path inside nautilus
[10:45] <fidel> at least that was the result of a quick search
[10:46] <blackshirt> guest80119, use rm instead
[10:47] <day> Guest80119: rm -r should work
[10:48] <day> Guest80119: just be careful not to remove everything
[10:48] <blackshirt> use with carefull
[10:48] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:48] <Guest80119> thank you day it worked
[10:48] <golden_fish> okay, i am here.
[10:48] <blackshirt> Hey blueskaj
[10:48] <fidel> Guest80119: just as hint - i pointed you to the man-page to avoid just blindly copy&pasting commands directly from irc
[10:49] <fidel> you shouldn never enter commands and dont understand at least partly
[10:49] <BluesKaj> hi blackshirt
[10:49] <Guest80119> ohk thanks.
[10:49] <fidel> so - a good way would be to actually read the man page - which should explain the basics of rm - and then if you consider issues with it - ask further inhere
[10:49] <blackshirt> hi
[10:50] <fidel> feel free to trust random ppl - but i wouldnt suggest it ;)
[10:54] <golden_fish> "stardict" software has no dictionary. i download "stardict-comn_sdict05_eng_arabic-2.4.2 (1).tar.bz2" but i can't add it to the software
[10:56] <fidel> golden_fish: it might help to write a small summary which mentions all relevant parts of your problem
[10:56] <fidel> not just snippets
[10:57] <golden_fish> fidel : okay
[10:59] <Nils_erik> hello, the integrated webcam on an Acer Aspire 7000 (AcerOrbiCam) displays the picture upside down in Precise, even when prepending LD_PRELOAD lines for either v4l1compat.so or v4l2convert.so; also v4l2ucp has no option to flip vertically as shown on the screenshot on this AskUbuntu page: http://askubuntu.com/questions/126765/skype-video-not-working-after-upgrade-from-11-10-to-12-04 what other options do I have?
[11:01] <kurtwp_> can someone point me to a good how-to that will explain how to stream ubuntu server logs to a central syslog server
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> Nils_erik:  You could use 'webcamstudio' (not in the repos) and use its virtual webcam feature to do all sorts of neat tweaks and effects to the real webcam stream. :)
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> a little over kill..but Webcamstudio has a Lot of neat features
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> kurtwp_:  perhaps some info at -> http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/centralized-logging-web-interface
[11:03] <Nils_erik> Dr_Willis: I'll check that out, thanks
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> guide seems a little old.  for 10.04.
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> Ive seebn other guides over the years on centeralized logging servers and even having the logging server be 'hidden' from the rest of the lan. (not sure how that worked) To keep it more isolated
[11:04] <golden_fish> fidel : i solved the issue , thanks
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> Nils_erik:  also a PDF/guide (not looked at it yet) --> http://www.canonical.com/about-canonical/resources/white-papers/centralised-logging-rsyslog
[11:05] <Nils_erik> Dr_Willis: wrong person for the syslog thing :)
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> ;) History buffer is allready gone past the top..
[11:06] <Nils_erik> heh
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> http://www.ws4gl.org/  Hows that. :) WebcamStudio
[11:07] <Nils_erik> Dr_Willis: yep found it, installing it as we speak :)
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> i recall it taking a bit of twiddling with to figure out how it works. :) not used it in ages. but at one time  i used it as a virtual webcam to broadcast my real webcam with a news ticker, or other info at the bottom. :)
[11:08] <mtrg> why isn't aircrack in ubuntu's repo?
[11:09] <golden_fish> fidel : i have atheros wireless adabter, it range is too short, can you help. coz that not happen in win 7
[11:09] <Dr_Willis> !info aircrack-ng
[11:09] <Dr_Willis> http://ubuntu2.cica.es/ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/aircrack-ng/
[11:10] <Hganavak> Can someone please link me to a guide on installing Mono or w/e the minimal Software possible is to compile and run C# programs
[11:10] <golden_fish> Dr_Willis : is this site for me ?
[11:10] <becca2> is a vnc viewer built into ubuntu?
[11:11] <Dr_Willis> becca2:  There used to be Vino built into gnome. Theres numerous vnc servers/clients you can use.
[11:11] <Hganavak> Can someone please link me to a guide on installing Mono or w/e the minimal Software possible is to compile and run C# programs
[11:12] <golden_fish> can some one please tell me why me atheros wireless in ubuntu only have low range signal ???
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. cant seem to find a default vnc client now. Used to be called Vino, or Vinigre.  I always use tightvncviewer or other vnc viewers
[11:14] <becca2> is there a command just to update the software repository listings?
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get update
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> updates the list of software.
[11:15] <root_> exit
[11:15] <becca2> dr_willis: thanks
[11:15] <golden_fish> Dr_Willis : do you have any idea why my wireless have a low range signal in ubuntu only
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> golden_fish:  Not really.
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> Sometimes the drivers are quirky. Id check the forums and askubuntu.com and the bug reports about your Exact wireless chipset/device.
[11:16] <Nils_erik> Dr_Willis: no dice :( the darn thing won't flip the picture
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> Nils_erik:  Hmm. I definatly recall flipping my webcam live stream all over the place.. the grandson loved it...
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> and dozens of other effects
[11:20] <Nils_erik> Dr_Willis: oh... there is a flip, but it's an horizontal one...
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> wow. that was too easy to install the .deb of webcam studio via the browser. :) click .. open with  Software center.. enter pass..
[11:20] <kristenbb> I'd like to sync two remote folders. They contain quite a large number of small files, such that rsync behaves really poorly. What other solutions do I have ?
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> Nils_erik:  you want to rotate it 180 perhaps?
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. Webcamstudio does not like my Java version.
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> !java
[11:21] <mtrg> did anyone answer my question
[11:21] <Nils_erik> Dr_Willis: might work... though if I need webcamstudio running in the background anyway just to get a correct picture in skype, that's not gonna fly
[11:21] <mtrg> i wonder why aircrack-ng isn't in ubuntu's repository. should i enable any?
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> Nils_erik:  its a virtual webcam - thats how it works. ;0
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> Why has aircrack-ng been dropped from 12.04? - Ubuntu Forums
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&ved=0CG0QFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntuforums.org%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D1892695&ei=6HcSUIWPMorpqgHhxIDAAQ&usg=AFQjCNGsScTGxtuCc-ErxkVCgsWb4VFjSA&sig2=A--jLs-3CMqbiyoqLw1I-g
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> silly google..
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1892695
[11:23] <mtrg> that's ugly from google
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> (From Debian) RoQA; unmaintained, RC-buggy, NPOS
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> it does seem to get added back into 12.10
[11:23] <mtrg> stupid reason imo
[11:24] <mtrg> should we also drop mixxx? because it doesn't belong to the dev team
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> Unmaintained is unmatained..
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> No idea what RoQA or NPOS means..
[11:24] <mtrg> ah, aircrack-ng is unmaintained by its own devs?
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> No idea. I dont use the app.. I just googled an answer for you. ;P
[11:24] <Nils_erik> Dr_Willis: thanks anyway, I'll just tell the customer his webcam is toast
[11:25] <Dr_Willis> The most likely to reason to drop a package I believe it is because of a dependency that does not get updated and stops the package from being built for a specific release.
[11:32] <habib> Hey everyone. after instalation of ubuntu i used it for like a week and then some day i tryed to start my pc and it said "insert bootable disk and press any key" i can't c HDD in BIOS and HDD led started to always be on. did someone face such problem?
[11:32] <Sculptor_> @habib
[11:33] <Sculptor_> please check HDD connection from cabinet
[11:33] <Sidewinder1> habib, Sounds like a hardware problem with the HDD. Maybe boot to LiveCD and run some didk utilities.
[11:33] <habib> Sculptor_, cabinet? what is it?
[11:33] <Sidewinder1> And that.
[11:34] <habib> Sidewinder1, i've tried disk utils and it can't c HDD
[11:34] <habib> i checked cables
[11:34] <habib> it's ok
[11:34] <zcoob> Hi, i installed ubuntu 12.04 via FAI and it worked fine so far ( installed packages are "ubuntu-desktop", "unity", "unity-lens-applications", "unity-lens-files" ). however i don't have any icons in my top bar for logout and such. anyone know how to fix this?
[11:34] <zcoob> am i missing packages?
[11:35] <Sculptor_> @habib , where HDD is attached
[11:35] <ThinkT510> zcoob: what is fai?
[11:35] <habib> SATA
[11:35] <Sculptor_> ya
[11:35] <zcoob> http://fai-project.org it is called fully automatic installation
[11:36] <habib> i've changed these cables with new and the same problem. changed sata ports onboard and nothing changed
[11:36] <ThinkT510> Sculptor_: i've never heard anyone call it a cabinet before
[11:36] <zcoob> it's used to install multiple clients without doing much and administrating them from one server
[11:36] <habib> yeah i didn't too
[11:36] <habib> can it be ubuntu issue? or is it just hardware?
[11:36] <Sculptor_> then what u called it
[11:36] <habib> case
[11:37] <Sculptor_> cabinet contain all devices mother board & all
[11:37] <Guest80119> is this normal i just install iHRS 4.1.2 an when i link my mange page it displays this :Site update in progress. We will wait a few moments before retrying.
[11:37] <zcoob> habib does your hdd start, like does it making a sound as it was running?
[11:37] <Sculptor_> try 2 boot from cd
[11:38] <ThinkT510> Sculptor_: case
[11:38] <zcoob> if bios can't find it it's probably a hardware defect though
[11:38] <Sculptor_> or check from BIOS setting HDD is detected
[11:38] <Sculptor_> or not
[11:38] <habib> zcoob, i can't hear actually. Sculptor_ i did. nothing's there
[11:39] <Guest80119> is this normal i just install iHRS 4.1.2 an when i link my mange page it displays this :Site update in progress. We will wait a few moments before retrying.
[11:39] <zcoob> well habib, put your hand on the hdd and see if it's running or not
[11:39] <zcoob> if it isn't its probably broken
[11:39] <habib> :) oh sh
[11:40] <Sculptor_> @habib from BIOS ur HDD is detected or not?
[11:40] <zcoob> it's not
[11:40] <zcoob> he said that in the beginning i believe
[11:40] <habib> not detected
[11:40] <Sculptor_> the it is issue with ur HDD
[11:41] <Sculptor_> HDD must detect in BIOS
[11:41] <inbitado34> have a problem with network, when i go sudo it says:  sudo: unable to resolve machine (the name of it)
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> !hostname
[11:41] <xro> Hi, is there someone that could help me to configure multitouch?  mtdev-test show me event with 1finger but nothing with more...
[11:42] <Guest80119> is this normal i just install iHRIS(Human Resource Information System) 4.1.2 an when i link my mange page it displays this :Site update in progress. We will wait a few moments before retrying.
[11:42] <Guest80119> I have just install iHRIS(Human Resource Information System) 4.1.2 an when i link my mange page it displays this :Site update in progress. We will wait a few moments before retrying.
[11:43] <Sidewinder1> !repeat | Guest80119
[11:44] <fidel> inbitado34: sounds like a name-resolution issue
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> !info ihris
[11:44] <Sculptor_> @inbitado34 make entry in the host file that is 127.0.0.1 hostname localhsot
[11:44] <Guest80119> I have just install iHRIS(Human Resource Information System) 4.1.2 an when i link my mange page it displays this :Site update in progress. We will wait a few moments before retrying.
[11:45] <kristenbb> I'd like to sync two remote folders. They contain quite a large number of small files, such that rsync behaves really poorly. What other solutions do I have ?
[11:45] <ThinkT510> Guest80119: stop repeating
[11:45] <fidel> Guest80119: dont repeat and consider a more detailed question
[11:45] <fidel> Guest80119: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[11:45]  * Dr_Willis wonders if anyone else has even heard of IHRS befor now...
[11:45] <Sidewinder1> Not I..
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> we're here to learn....
[11:46] <Sidewinder1> :)
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> Seems its not in the repos..
[11:46] <fidel> kristenbb: why do you think rsync behaves poorly?
[11:46] <fidel> rsync is designed for that task ;)
[11:46] <inbitado34> Sculptor, ok
[11:46] <inbitado34> i'll try
[11:47] <Sculptor_> @ inbitado34 it works
[11:47] <kristenbb> fidel: rsync is fast because it compares files and only transmits them when required. However here not a lot of files are changed, but over a very large number of files. So it takes a few hours just to end up sending a few bytes
[11:47] <kristenbb> it loses too much time checking the whole folder
[11:48] <OerHeks> kristenbb, any OS will take a lot of time to copy a large numbers of small files, so it is not rsync specific. zip them or use a compression option.
[11:48] <Hfuy> Hello.
[11:48] <kristenbb> OerHeks: I'm not copying a large number of files
[11:48] <Hfuy> I'm trying to boot Ubuntu from a flash key as a test OS on some suspect hardware, using the procedure described on ubuntu.com "create a USB stick on windows."
[11:48] <xro> i'm i the only one that try to configure multitouch? is there some doc somewhere?
[11:48] <fidel> kristenbb: i agree to OerHeks ...your setup is the problem - not the tools ;)
[11:48] <kristenbb> OerHeks: only a few ones were modified, it's just that they're inside a huge folder.
[11:49] <Dr_Willis> xro:  checked the forums and askubuntu.com yet?
[11:49] <Sculptor_> @inbitado34 after make the entry in hostfile the u run the command /etc/init.d/hostname reload or log off and login again. Then check it
[11:49] <kristenbb> fidel: so what can I do ?
[11:49] <Hfuy> I've made the stick and tried booting from it, and I see a Ubuntu logo briefly, but then it drops out to a text display ending with "can not mount /dev/loop1 on /cow" and an (initramfs) prompt.
[11:49] <Hfuy> Any suggestions?
[11:50] <Dr_Willis> how did you make the stick? did you check the md5sums of the iso/cd/stick?
[11:50] <inbitado34> Sculptor, i edited /etc/hostname, added:  localhost 127.0.0.1  below (the host name) is it that ?
[11:50] <xro> Dr_Willis, i found some docs about ginn and mtdev... but it looks like there is no event when i use more than ne finger (ested with mtdev-test)
[11:50] <Hfuy> Using this procedure: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[11:50] <Hfuy> I'm not aware that I checked anything.
[11:51] <OerHeks> kristenbb, to and from what partition type ? ntfs ?
[11:51] <Hfuy> Looking more closely, this may be by design. I'm apparently in a shell called BusyBox 1.18.5.
[11:51] <kristenbb> fidel: no, ext4, but that can be changed if ntfs has a nice solution for that
[11:51] <Hfuy> "Help" produces a list of available commands.
[11:51] <Dr_Willis> Hfuy:  try some of the tools from the PenDriveLinux web site.
[11:52] <kristenbb> OerHeks: sorry, this was meant to you ^
[11:52] <Dr_Willis> Hfuy:  it dident boot properly. it dropped back to busybox .. so somthing dident get put on the usb right.
[11:52] <Hfuy> I have to say I tend to use windows to avoid all this BS.
[11:52] <Hfuy> This is really a great advertisement for linux - it doesn't even boot!
[11:52] <OerHeks> kristenbb, ntfs would give you less perfomance, ext4 is fine
[11:52] <Guest80119> I have just install iHRIS(Human Resource Information System) 4.1.2 an when i link my mange page it displays this :Site update in progress. We will wait a few moments before retrying.
[11:52] <Dr_Willis> Hfuy:  its possible your CD download is bad.. so your generalization is incorrect.
[11:53] <kristenbb> OerHeks: it still takes a few hours checking the whole directory, just to end up sending one or two files
[11:53] <ThinkT510> Hfuy: complaining doesn't get you help faster
[11:53] <kristenbb> OerHeks: what other solutions could I deploy?
[11:53] <Hfuy> Anyway, the purpose of all this is to evaluate whether the ethernet hardware on this motherboard is bad, or whether it's a windows problem.
[11:53] <Hfuy> Can I do anything  about that from here, or should I try another approach?
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> Hfuy:  Theres mini linux disrtos like TinyCorelinux (10mb) that can check that.
[11:54] <Hfuy> Euhh. If I can't get Ubuntu to work, I don't fancy my chances elsewhere.
[11:54] <kristenbb> OerHeks: just for reference, the folder is composed of a few hundred thousands files
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> Hfuy:  or dozens of other live cd/recovery/hw testing disrtos out.
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> Hfuy:  your logic is invalid again..
[11:54] <Hfuy> I could put windows 7 on a spare disk#], but that'll take hours.
[11:55] <ThinkT510> Hfuy: if you are just testing it you don't need to install a whole-blown distro
[11:55] <Hfuy> I just need to see if the LAN port lights come on, is all.
[11:56] <Hfuy> anyway the size isn't really the problem
[11:56] <xro> So, it looks like Ginn is the
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> Gotta love it when people spend more time complaining then trying to fix their issue..
[11:57] <Guest80119> I have just install iHRIS(Human Resource Information System) 4.1.2 an when i link my mange page it displays this :Site update in progress. We will wait a few moments before retrying.
[11:57] <Sidewinder1> Hfuy, Maybe my Dells are different but my LAN lights stay on even if the machines are off; if there's a cat-5 plugged in.
[11:57] <fidel> Guest80119: you are still repepating the same over and over
[11:57] <Dr_Willis> Sidewinder1:  i was just thinking that also.. or at least the router lights blink some.
[11:57] <xro> So, it looks like Ginn should be use to do multouch with ubuntu 12.04, right?   if mtdev-test show me event when i use 1 finger and nothing with more than 1, it ooks like i have a driver issue, right?
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> Dr_Willis  swearing is the only language that computers never fail to understand
[11:57] <Dr_Willis> Guest80119:  at least correct your spelling mistakes if you are going to repeate the same thing for the next 5 hrs. :)
[11:58] <fidel> please consider not just repeating - think why you get no answer. There is either no one available knowing a solution - or your basic question is unclear (which gets my vote)
[11:58] <kristenbb> for example, how does svn work ?
[11:58] <fidel> its impressive how hard it seems to even ask for help
[11:58] <Hfuy> SO anyway - is there any prospect of fixing this ubuntu flash disk, or should I throw it in the bin and try something else
[11:58] <fidel> kristenbb: svn is a version-control system
[11:58] <fidel> if that gives you a first idea about it
[11:58] <kristenbb> fidel: yes it is.
[11:59] <kristenbb> fidel: I meant, how does it know which files were modified ? There's some kind of checksum, but how is it updated?
[11:59] <kristenbb> fidel: My question was how to make rsync faster
[11:59] <ThinkT510> Hfuy: if theres nothing wrong with the flash disk you don't need to throw it in the bin
[11:59] <OerHeks> kristenbb, i think the last modified date/time is used ?
[11:59] <uriol_> hi
[12:00] <Hfuy> ThinkT510: well, metaphorically
[12:00] <uriol_> i have installed wubi on windows
[12:00] <fidel> kristenbb: try #rsync in addition
[12:00] <uriol_> but when i start it appears 2 grub menus
[12:00] <kristenbb> OerHeks: can I know which files were modified since the last rsync or svn update without looking through them all ?
[12:00] <Dr_Willis> Hfuy:  i mentioned trying some of the many Other tools at the Pendrivelinux web site.
[12:00] <fidel> kristenbb: i doubt you'll be able to heavily tweak that...but good luck
[12:00] <Sculptor_> @inbitado34, sorry please donot make changes in hostname file
[12:01] <Hfuy> Dr_Willis: I can try that, but if Ubuntu, the World's Easiest To Use Linux Distro can't even boot, I'm not sure how confident I am.
[12:02] <Sculptor_> @inbitado34, path is /etc/hosts. In this file entry must like this 127.0.0.1 hostname localhost
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> Hfuy:  whatever.. you want to rant all day.. have fun.
[12:02] <Hfuy> Can we fix what's wrong with ubuntu, or what
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> Hfuy:  youve not shown its not a bad iso file.. or any other tests. so go check the md5, try other tools. try the flash on other pcs.
[12:02] <Hfuy> Check the what now?
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> !md5 | Hfuy
[12:03] <OerHeks> kristenbb, " find <some_dir> -newermt '2012-1-1' -and -not -newermt '2012-7-27'
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> I always use torrents to get the iSO files. seems i rarely have bad files via torrents. since they sort of self check :)
[12:03] <kristenbb> OerHeks: but that would look through all the files, right ? If there are a few hundred thousands, if would take some time too...
[12:04] <Ananda> how can i delete 1 grub
[12:04] <OerHeks> kristenbb, so be it.
[12:04] <Guest79517> a good program to editing video? i need only cut and mute setting
[12:04] <Hfuy> Oh screw this noise. I can redownload it if you think that might help, but I can't see how it will.
[12:04] <Dr_Willis> Ive said to CHECK the MD5 SUM several times now...
[12:05] <kristenbb> OerHeks: the best option would be that everytime a file is modified, it says so to a process which keeps track of modified files, so that the modified files are sent. Is that not possible ?
[12:05] <fidel> Guest79517: my video-notes contains: openshot, pitivi, flowblade, novacut and kdenlive
[12:05] <fidel> maybe usefull as srtarting point
[12:05] <Hfuy> I have ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso; apparently the checksum should be d791352694374f1c478779f7f4447a3f
[12:06] <OerHeks> kristenbb, i think you can script that.
[12:06] <Guest79517> fidel: ok i try these
[12:07] <jonataaraujo> Bom dia h-lera
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> !pt
[12:07] <Hfuy> My download appears to be in good order.
[12:08] <Hfuy> The MD5 sum begins in d79135 and ends in 7a3f.
[12:08] <kristenbb> OerHeks: how ?
[12:08] <Dr_Willis> how did you check the md5sum? if its good. then try other tools at the pendrivelinux site.
[12:08] <Hfuy> What do you mean by "tools"
[12:08] <Hfuy> tools to put the ISO on the flash key?
[12:08] <Dr_Willis> yes. Pendrivelinux site has a collection of such tools.
[12:09] <jonataaraujo> #ubuntu-br
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> Hfuy  what have you used to create the bootable usb stick?
[12:09] <OerHeks> kristenbb, i would use grsync & rsync, this can do the incremental backup for you, and it will take some time too.
[12:09] <Hfuy> The thing recommended on the Ubuntu site.
[12:09] <Dr_Willis> Hfuy:  and aparently that dident work.. so....
[12:10] <Hfuy> This: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[12:10] <fidel> jonataaraujo: try: /j #ubuntu-br
[12:10] <Dr_Willis> I tend to use the YUMI tool at pendrivelinux.com
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> ow... windows... no wonder it doesnt work....
[12:10] <Hfuy> I used "Universal USB Installer", from pendrivelinux.com
[12:11] <Dr_Willis> so try one of the other tools at pendrivelinux.com perhaps.
[12:11] <Hfuy> Gah.
[12:11]  * Hfuy hates linux
[12:11] <Dr_Willis> spend less time ranting....
[12:11] <Hfuy> I'll rant while it downloads, if that's OK
[12:12] <Dr_Willis> Not really.
[12:12] <mydogsnameisrudy> hard to learn new things
[12:13] <Hfuy> should I select Ubuntu 12.04 for "ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso"
[12:13] <Sculptor_> any one know how to configure pidgin
[12:13] <Hfuy> Honestly this seems to be exactly the same as the last one.
[12:13] <BluesKaj> well, with windows we pay for convenience , with linux we have to work a little for it , but the reward is worth it .
[12:13] <zcoob> Sculptor_: that is a really vague question, can you elaborate on what exactly you want to do?
[12:13] <kandinski> I have this dvb-t stick and ubuntu 12.04
[12:14] <Hfuy> BluesKaj: so far, linux seems to be a program that makes my computer say "can not mount /dev/loop1 on cow", which isn't much of a reward.
[12:14] <Hfuy> It's not even in good English.
[12:14] <kandinski> lsusb says AF9015/AF9035
[12:14] <Hfuy> I mean.... "cow"?
[12:14] <kandinski> copy on write
[12:15] <kandinski> can anybody point me towards a good howto for watching DVB on 12.04 using a AF9015/AF9035 usb adapter? Thanks.
[12:15] <BluesKaj> Hfuy:  there's a solution , some research is required , that's all.
[12:15] <usr13> FYI, you can just google the checksum
[12:15] <Hfuy> I checked the download.
[12:15] <Hfuy> It's cherry.
[12:16] <fidel> kandinski: are you looking for the basic driver/firmware or for apps being able to handle dvb-t?
[12:16] <usr13> Hfuy: So what is the problem?  (Sorry but I'm a latecomer to the issue.)
[12:16] <Hfuy> usr13: I'm attempting to use a linux USB stick to check whether a problem on my machine is hardware or OS (usually it runs win7)
[12:16] <Dr_Willis> many of those tools try to set up Live-cd systems and can do things wrongly. I tend to just Image the ISO directly to the flash for installing.  I forget what tool i used as a 'dd' replacement on wndows.
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> usr13  he can't get to create a decent bootable usb stick
[12:17] <usr13> Hfuy: Do you have a problem booting the media? Ok, I see, check the BIOS settings.
[12:17] <Hfuy> I followed the instructions on help.ubuntu.com to create a USB stick, but it bombed out halfway through boot with the error "Can not mount /dev/loop1 on /cow" and an (initramfs) prompt.
[12:17] <Hfuy> To be fair, this sort of flakiness is not unexpected from Linux :)
[12:17] <kandinski> fidel, both
[12:17] <Dr_Willis> If you are just going to use it for a 10 min test.. I would have used TinyCoreLinux.  since it would take it all of like 30 sec to download and copy to the flash.
[12:18] <Hfuy> I'm now in the process of making another USB stick using a very slightly different (but frankly almost identical) USB stick installer.
[12:18] <kandinski> I have found this: http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/EzCap_DVB_T_Stick seems hard work
[12:18] <rajumoh> can 3.4 be considered stable enouf to be installed on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> rajumoh:  you meak 3.4 kernel?
[12:19] <rajumoh> Dr_Willis: yeah, the same
[12:19] <usr13> Hfuy: If you have verified the ISO, then you have two more issues, 1) Properly burning the ISO image to the USB device.  & 2) Configuring the BIOS settings to the point that the PC will actually boot a USB device, (and sometimes that takes some doing...).
[12:19] <fidel> kandinski: i used me-tv in the past and now kaffeine
[12:19] <Hfuy> usr13: oh that I can do.
[12:19] <kandinski> fidel, thanks
[12:19] <ThinkT510> rajumoh: only the kernels in the repos are supported, run your own kernels at your own risk
[12:19] <Hfuy> I've booted windows off USB sticks in the past (it's a pain, but it can be done).
[12:19] <fidel> both worked pretty good as viewer-apps after having setup the basic firmware for my dvb-t device in the first place
[12:19] <Dr_Willis> rajumoh:  doing such things would be at your own risk. Ive no idea how stable the newer kernels are. I imagine the act of getting the kernel on the system would be the big poteitial issues.. Not the actual kernel.
[12:20] <kandinski> do you know if the driver is in any ppa?
[12:20] <Hfuy> This USB installer seems to be taking a lot, lot longer than the other one. It's using 7zip to unpack the ISO.
[12:20] <Dr_Willis> rajumoh:  i do belive theres some Unoffical newer kernel ppas also.
[12:20] <usr13> Hfuy: Ok, if you properly solve those other two problems, you will be successful.
[12:20] <AndChat382025> nobody know
[12:20] <Dr_Willis> AndChat382025:  know what?
[12:20] <Hfuy> usr13: Well, I used the thing that was recommended on ubuntu.com to build the USB stick. But again, this is linux. Don't expect too much...
[12:21] <thermostat> Easy USB Installer?
[12:21] <usr13> Hfuy: On the contrary, expect a lot.
[12:21] <Hfuy> Yes.
[12:21] <fidel> kandinski: i am using another dvb-t device so no idea what driver you need in the first place -. cant help you on the driver/firmware part
[12:21] <Dr_Willis>  loose the attitude would be more helpfull
[12:21] <thermostat> I use that for everything, never had a hiccup
[12:21] <Hfuy> Still, at least Ubuntu 12.04 Wascally Wabbit or whatever it's called will actually FIT on a four gig USB stick, which windows 7 wouldn't.
[12:21] <usr13> Hfuy: That may be the problem, if you downloaded a compressed image....
[12:22] <rajumoh> Dr_Willis, ThinkT510 : does not ubuntu have a place where it releases if a kernel has reached enough stabilty to be tried on ?
[12:22] <kandinski> fidel, thanks
[12:22] <Hfuy> usr13: I let the installer tool download the image.
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> rajumoh:  ive not needed to do that. So not sure.
[12:22] <usr13> Hfuy: Usually that is not the case, you just end up with an ISO image, (not a compressed ISO).
[12:22] <thermostat> It's best to dl the ISO yourself
[12:22] <Hfuy> Other than trivial selection of files and so forth, I have had very little involvement in this process. I just followed the instructions.
[12:22] <ThinkT510> rajumoh: not sure what you mean, but the kernel it is released with is the only one that recieves updates and support
[12:23] <Hfuy> But again, this is linux, so just following the instructions is... not... usually very effective.
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> but ranting on Irc is..
[12:23]  * BluesKaj throws Hfuy a crying towel
[12:23] <fidel> ignore ole ole
[12:23] <usr13> Hfuy: I've not done it on MS Windows, only on Linux so I'm not really familiar with the process for doing it on a MS Windows machine, but I'm pretty sure the instructions are correct, they are tried and proven.
[12:24] <rajumoh> Dr_Willis, ThinkT510 : ok,  thanks
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> Hfuy  what usr13 says... and used by many
[12:24] <Dr_Willis> rajumoh:  you could test out 12.10 if you want to see if the newer kernel versions work. Not sure what verson the latest 12.10 release is using.
[12:24] <Hfuy> usr13: well, clearly not.
[12:25] <Hfuy> I don't even really understand what the error means. It's trying to mount /dev/loop1 on /cow. Whatever any of that is.
[12:25] <Dr_Willis> file witten incorrectly, or read error on the flash drive..
[12:25] <Hfuy> mounting /dev/sda on /mnt/mydisk would make sense.
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> its not mount things like that.. its using special live-filesystem setups
[12:26] <Hfuy> Whatever. It's not something I can fix, I assume.
[12:26] <Hfuy> In any case I'm now 68.5% through making another usb stick.
[12:26] <rajumoh> Dr_Willis: was doing the same :-)
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> Verify iso.. try other tools.. try pendrive on other machines.
[12:26] <Hfuy> I don't have any other machines that don't have their disks plugged in.
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> ive defainatly had USB flash drives work on some machines.. and not others..
[12:27] <Hfuy> This one is in pieces on the desktop. I'd never trust linux with drives I actually care about.
[12:27] <usr13> If you have problems burning the ISO to a media device, there are three issues at play, 1) The integrity of the ISO, 2) The burning software, & 3) The media device, (could be defective).
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> but not so much in  the last few years.. some older ones were very picky
[12:27] <Hfuy> on a purely technical level, booting from USB is tricky in itself, regardless of OS.
[12:27] <usr13> Hfuy: You might try another USB stic,
[12:27] <thermostat> Download the .iso from the site. Plug in a new empty USB drive. Open Easy USB Installer, choose the distro version, select iso. Select drive letter.
[12:27] <Hfuy> Windows by default is set up to disallow it.
[12:27] <thermostat> That's it
[12:27] <Hfuy> thermostat: that's more or less what I did.
[12:27] <Hfuy> And it didn't boot.
[12:28] <ThinkT510> Hfuy: you don't need to unplug harddrives to use a liveusb/cd and the liveusb/cd won't touch your harddrive unless you specifically told it to
[12:28] <thermostat> Not more or less
[12:28] <usr13> Hfuy: The BIOS is set to disallow it.
[12:28] <Hfuy> ThinkT510: People say that, I don't trust it.
[12:28] <Hfuy> usr13: well, that too, but windows is internally set up such that the installer will not let you install it to USB devices.
[12:28] <Hfuy> You can, by unpacking the installer and hacking on text files, persuade it to do so. But it's tricky.
[12:28] <Hfuy> I only got it to work once.
[12:29] <usr13> Hfuy: ThinkT510 is correct, you don't need to unplug devices, you only need to look at BIOS settings for proper choices.
[12:29] <Hfuy> usr13: This is work data on big RAIDs. The last thing I need is some linux daemon deciding they all need formatting.
[12:29] <fqqv> hello
[12:29] <usr13> Hfuy: This is not a MS Windows issue.
[12:29] <DanielHolth> Will someone with AMD64 do the following: install python-keyring and then "python -c "import keyring"
[12:30] <Lloir> why DanielHolth
[12:30] <DanielHolth> it core dumps for me
[12:30] <Hfuy> No, usr13, it's not.
[12:30] <ThinkT510> Hfuy: seriously, if you're worried about formatting things accidentally then you simply don't know what you're doing
[12:30] <usr13> Hfuy: They will not all be formatted unless you select an option to do it.
[12:30] <Hfuy> I'm not worried about me formatting things accidentally.
[12:30] <Hfuy> I'm worried about linux being incompetent.
[12:30] <Lloir> oO
[12:30] <Hfuy> And based on my experience so far today, I'd say that fear was justified.
[12:30] <pb|away> blasphemy
[12:30]  * Dr_Willis is more worried about pointless trolling.
[12:30] <usr13> I think he is missing an f and the f and h are transposed.
[12:31] <fidel> hrhr
[12:31] <fqqv> How can I make the icon not wiggle on the  when I close/open a window ?
[12:31] <fidel> you guys are feeding them way to long
[12:31] <usr13> No, seriously, he is just scheptical, and that is a natural thing....
[12:31] <Hfuy> Two minutes thirty till this unpack is done.
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> fqqv:  i belive ive seen some tweaks for that in Either MyUnity or Ubuntu-tweak
[12:32] <OerHeks> fqqv, use my-unity to tweak that behaviour
[12:32] <Sidewinder1> Hfuy, I think you originally stated you just wanted something to check LAN connection; then, with all due respect, why not just use a LiveCD? Seems a lot more simple than installing to a USB stick.
[12:32] <fqqv> Dr_Willis, OerHeks  Thanks, I'll check it out
[12:32] <Hfuy> Sidewinder1: The machine lacks an optical drive.
[12:32] <usr13> He is having a problem and not sure what it is.
[12:32] <Hfuy> And so does this netbook.
[12:32] <Hfuy> Or I would have.
[12:32] <ThinkT510> Sidewinder1 +1
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> Sidewinder1:  or just use TinyCoreLinux like i suggested. :)
[12:32] <Sidewinder1> Hfuy, OIC.. :(
[12:32] <Hfuy> In any case, I'm not sure that would have made any difference.
[12:33] <Hfuy> The boot process seemed to have some sort of intrinsic problem built into it. I don't know if this new version will solve it.
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> Faulty reasoning is faulty.
[12:33] <usr13> Hfuy: That's ok, USB installs work just fine. In fact, I prefer USB install.
[12:33] <Hfuy> well it didn't work fine or I wouldn't be here.
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> Yes.. a bad iso download points to Intrisic problems of the OS..
[12:33] <Hfuy> It fell over halfway through boot.
[12:33] <usr13> Hfuy: No, it works fine, you just have an issue or two to work out.
[12:33] <Hfuy> Although to be fair, it did pop up a Ubuntu logo at the right resolution for the display for a few seconds, which is impressive.
[12:34] <usr13> Hfuy: You'll get it if you try.
[12:34] <Hfuy> linux now understands widescreen displays! yay! progress!
[12:34] <iceroot> Hfuy: linux has nothing to do with a display
[12:35] <Hfuy> I wouldn't mind having a ubuntu flash key that works as I'd like to try it on this laptop, since it currently runs windows 7 and is appallingly slow. I don't know if there's any particular reason Ubuntu would be faster, but it's worth a try.
[12:35] <pb> windows = bloat.
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> less ram ussage. less cpu ussage.
[12:35] <Hfuy> Okay, it's finished building the USB key again.
[12:35] <Hfuy> Let's try this one more time.
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> lightest variant of Ubuntu would be the "Lubuntu"  version.
[12:36]  * Sidewinder1 Crosses his fingers..
[12:36] <pb> Dr_Willis, whats the install size for lubuntu? 5gb?
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> pb:  i think it can fit on a 4gb flash.
[12:36] <pb> insane.
[12:36] <Hfuy> I tend not usually to put linux on laptops unless there is a specifically tweaked version for that exact laptop, though.
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> but moar is always better.
[12:37] <Hfuy> Otherwise you find half the hardware doesn't work.
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> Hfuy:   i find that statement totally false.
[12:37] <islandmonkey> Hfuy: Same here
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> and i cant even think of the last laptop-make specific disrto ive seen.
[12:37] <islandmonkey> No whoops
[12:37] <Hfuy> Okay, I can "continue to boot from first HD" or "linux distributions ->"
[12:37] <islandmonkey> I meant Dr_Willis
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> Hfuy  read this at some later time http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/
[12:37] <Hfuy> Okay, loading linux.
[12:37] <fidel> Dr_Willis: full ack
[12:38] <mydogsnameisrudy> sounds like Hfuy is an expert on all linux installs
[12:38] <Hfuy> OK, purple screen with Ubuntu logo.
[12:38] <pb> ^^
[12:38] <Sidewinder1> Woot!
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> I do recall seeng the Android 4.0.4 x86 having some differnt versions for Differnt Netbooks.
[12:38] <Hfuy> Don't get too excited. It did this before.
[12:38] <islandmonkey> Come on! Come on! Come on!
[12:38] <Hfuy> ...and I've got a desktop.
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> wow....
[12:38] <Sidewinder1> Imagine that...
[12:38] <Hfuy> Someone tell ubuntu.com their pen drive installer doesn't work.
[12:39] <Hfuy> That was not, I'm sure you'll admit, a great introduction to the OS.
[12:39] <fidel> or pebcac ? ;)
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> Hfuy:  its not THEIR installer.. as you said.. it came from pendrivelinux.com
[12:39] <Hfuy> Well someone should tell them anyway.
[12:39] <Hfuy> YUMI seems almost identical, but it worked, whereas the one they recommed didn't.
[12:39] <pb> if you get in line im sure the wait won't be long
[12:39] <Hfuy> Some would consider this a problem.
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> report it to the pendrivelinux.com site then.
[12:39] <ardvarticus> Hey, my new install of 12.04 thinks my PC is a laptop… any way to fix?
[12:39] <Hfuy> Amazingly, it's configured the correct screen resolution automatically.
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> ardvarticus:  clarfify what you mean.
[12:40] <ardvarticus> It's on a NVidia 550GTX and I've installed the closed NV Drivers
[12:41] <roasted> Does anybody know the command line equivalent of what you see in update manager to upgrade to the next version of Ubuntu?
[12:41] <ardvarticus> Under displays, it says it's driving a laptop screen
[12:41] <ardvarticus> It's not detected the other monitor
[12:41] <iceroot> !upgrade | roasted
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> roasted  depends on your current version, i guess
[12:41] <ThinkT510> roasted: do-release-upgrade
[12:41] <arak> g'day all. After having been away from my computer for a few hours, with it running, the "unlock" window doesn't appear and it's only a black screen but the programs are stil running (music is playing). I tried to kill the gnome-screensaver, but that failed to do the trick. Starting unity from the CLI got the default background back, but no windows are visible, no menus are available. The mouse cursor is the only thing available to me. How do I restart X, Unity
[12:41] <Sidewinder1> Hfuy, And please remember, if later down the road something does not function to your complete satisfaction you can always demand your money back. ;-)
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> ardvarticus:  how are the 2 monitors connected? same card?  You did reboot after installing the nvidia-drivers?  You ran the nvidia-settings tool after a reboot?
[12:41] <ardvarticus> Nm, got it, I just needed to set up the NV server
[12:41] <roasted> ThinkT510: thanks. I'm seeing in update manager no entry for the new version. I'm on 10.04 and want to upgrade to 12.04.
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> ardvarticus:  ;)
[12:42] <ardvarticus> Woooow, I like multii-monitors on ubuntu.
[12:42] <ThinkT510> roasted: wait till 12.04.1
[12:42] <islandmonkey> Hfuy: And your statutory rights will not be affected ;)
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> roasted  august 23
[12:42] <roasted> ThinkT510: too late. already hired to dot he job. :P
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> roasted:  i think thats on hold like ThinkT510  mentioned.. to allow more 'testing' of the upgrade path.
[12:42] <roasted> MonkeyDust: and here on site.
[12:42] <ardvarticus> Although now displays reports it's a 3600x1080 :D
[12:42] <fidel> roasted: try: do-release-upgrade -d
[12:42] <roasted> oh, crap
[12:42] <roasted> fidel: what's the -d?
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> roasted:  its doable.. but i always do clean installs..
[12:43] <fidel> roasted: guess what ;)
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> ardvarticus:  now you can have wide wide wide wallpaper
[12:43] <roasted> Dr_Willis: same here, but I'd rather TRY an upgrade and see what happens. It's an LTSP server. LTSP devs confirmed the upgrade works great.
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> roasted:  that means its sure to fail. ;P
[12:43] <roasted> Dr_Willis: doubt it. Smart group of guys over there.
[12:43] <roasted> Dr_Willis: would bet my car they're correct, easily.
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> Go for it... ;P 'famous last words'
[12:44] <fidel> roasted: i upgraded about 8 boxes from 10.04 to 12.04 - worked for most boxes without any issue - and some had minor issues forcing me to fix it afterwards
[12:44] <ardvarticus> Wow, Ubuntu. Just… ubuntu.
[12:44] <fidel> but overall the update did not compelty fail on any of those boxes
[12:44] <roasted> fidel: sounds good. You updated through do-release-upgrade -d?
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> ardvarticus:  all ubuntu-uie goodness..
[12:44] <ardvarticus> I've not used it since like 2008… it looks so polished and shiny now!
[12:44] <fidel> roasted: yep - consider starting by: man do-release-upgrade if you need more infos about the parms
[12:44] <ardvarticus> And OSX-y
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> I dont find it OS-Xy at all...
[12:45] <roasted> fidel: cool, sounds good.
[12:45] <roasted> ardvarticus: as somebody who also uses OSX, I'd disagree. :D
[12:45] <roasted> fidel: good to know you tried that exact thing :P
[12:45] <fidel> roasted: as always: backup the important files first
[12:45] <islandmonkey> ardvarticus: In what way?
[12:45] <roasted> fidel: trying to think of configs worth backing up before I pull the trigger....
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> roasted:  but it has Icons and a menu! just like OS-X ! :0
[12:45] <roasted> fidel: so far I can only think of dhcp configs and whatnot...
[12:45] <Sculptor_> pidgin is chat client. Any know how 2 configure it
[12:45] <roasted> Dr_Willis: oh, silly me! I forgot EVERYTHING is OSX like. *facepalm*
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> Sculptor_:  Use its settings menus?
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> roasted:  even my Geos-64 stole ideas from OS-X ;
[12:46] <ardvarticus> The settings menu does look a bit familiar, yeah
[12:46] <roasted> ardvarticus: if that's the case, Windows 7, Windows 8, XP, and Android look like OSX too.
[12:46] <Hfuy-> where were we
[12:46] <fidel> all os-/gui designers are stealing from each others - thats pretty old history. so lets rephrase: they all look like modern UIs ;)
[12:46] <bb42> hi, what mp3 player would you suggest for use without x env.?
[12:46] <Hfuy-> how do I go about finding out if this thing thinks it has a working LAN port?
[12:47] <Sculptor_> @Dr_Willis I configured it but it shows msg unable to connect
[12:47] <ardvarticus> But I don't know, it's maybe because it's got a really nice icon-rich UI with a *nix monster hiding inside
[12:47] <Sculptor_> our domain under the gmail.com
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> bb42:  theres several in the repos. it depends on your needs.
[12:47] <islandmonkey> And so do you look like OS X. So does your home, so does the sky, so does, everything!
[12:47] <ThinkT510> Hfuy-: you'd need to trust it enough to plug in an ethernet cable
[12:47] <bb42> I'm struggeling between cmus and mp3blaster
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> islandmonkey:  my dog looks like 'FireFox' - since hes a Pomerianian. ;P
[12:47] <Hfuy-> I've don ethat
[12:47] <fidel> Hfuy-: replace your MS cmd: ipconfig with ifconfig
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> bb42:  so install both.. try them out.
[12:48] <Sidewinder1> Sculptor_, I used to use Pidgin; found that it lacked some functionality. I then upgraded to X-Chat and haven't looked back. You may wish to have a look at it.
[12:48] <fidel> that should output your config - then try to ping as you would do in the MS-world
[12:48] <ardvarticus> Also, my dock's on the LH side of the screen so it looks kind of like the ubuntu bar
[12:48] <bb42> but I'm unsure because I need something which needs as less system ressources as possible but can play mp3music
[12:48] <Hfuy-> where do I get a shell
[12:48] <fidel> Hfuy-: c'mon
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> !terminal
[12:48] <ardvarticus> Oh, and the ubuntu software store thing!
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> or ctrl-shift-t
[12:49] <Sculptor_> @Sidewinder1 Can I configure gmail account with xchat
[12:49] <ThinkT510> Hfuy-: are you on the desktop?
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> i think. or was it alt-ctrl-t
[12:49] <Hfuy-> Yes, I don't actually have an "applications" menu.
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> or tap the 'alt' key then type 'term' and it should show up..
[12:49] <ThinkT510> Hfuy-: press the super key and type terminal
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> top left BIG button is a launcher menyu thang. :) the Dash..
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> gee like 5+ ways to get a terminal going.
[12:49] <Sidewinder1> Sculptor_, I'm not sure; I've never tried but the answer is probably yes.
[12:49] <ThinkT510> Hfuy-: super = windows logo key
[12:50] <Hfuy-> I have workspace switcher, system settings, Ubuntu One, Ubuntu Software Center, LibreOffice Impress, Calc, and Writer, Firefox, HomeFolder, Install, and Dash Home.
[12:50] <Sculptor_> @Sidewinder1 thanks
[12:50] <Sidewinder1> My pleasure,..
[12:50] <bb42> Dr_Willis: Will do so.)
[12:50] <Hfuy-> Holding windows logo and typing "term" gets me "search music collection"
[12:50] <ThinkT510> Hfuy-: the terminal is the first thing i usually add to the unity bar
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> Dash has  search field at the top.  type in 'term' and several terminals icons show up.
[12:51] <Sculptor_> @Sidewinder1 what is best client chat for ubuntu instead of empathy
[12:51] <Sculptor_> IM
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> tap 'super' type 'term' in the search field..
[12:51] <Hfuy-> Right, OK, got a terminal.
[12:51] <ardvarticus> I like colloquy. I don't think it's in the software centre though
[12:51] <iceroot> Sculptor_: the one you like most
[12:51] <Sidewinder1> Sculptor_, As I said, I use X-Chat.
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> Hfuy-  ok, you managed to boot it, now get familiar with it, like we all had to
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[12:51] <Hfuy-> I have no wish to get familiar with it, I just want to find out if the LAN hardware on this motherboard is working.
[12:51] <pb> pigeon ?
[12:52] <Hfuy-> Typing "ifconfig" lists only "lo".
[12:52] <Hfuy-> Is it possible there's a driver issue?
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> Hfuy-:  for a Wired network card?
[12:52] <Hfuy-> These boards use some sort of fairly common Marvell LAN chip.
[12:52] <Hfuy-> Yes.
[12:52] <fidel> so you want to use something you dont know & understand ...sounds promising ;)
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> Ive rarely needed or seen extra drivers for Wired Nics
[12:52] <ThinkT510> Hfuy-: can you pastebin the result?
[12:52] <roasted> fidel: got resolv backed up, smb.conf, ltsp chroot, lts.conf, dhcp config... no idea what else I could need...
[12:52] <Hfuy-> the result of what?
[12:52] <ThinkT510> Hfuy-: ifconfig
[12:53] <mofaph> Hi, all. What is the use of /lib/init/rw?
[12:53] <ThinkT510> Hfuy-: lspci would help too
[12:53] <Hfuy-> I get one result "lo" "link encap: local loopback"
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> Double check the cables also. :) make sure the dog/cat/kids havent chewed on them.
[12:53] <Sidewinder1> Hfuy-, Open Firefox; 'touch' an outside web page like CNN.com. If it resolves, there's a pretty good chance that your LAN/router are working.
[12:53] <Hfuy-> I can't pastebin anything. The LAN hardware on this PC doesn't work. That's why we're here.
[12:53] <ThinkT510> Hfuy-: type lspci
[12:53] <Hfuy-> If I open firefox, I get a "server not found" on start.ubuntu.com
[12:54] <ThinkT510> Hfuy-: can you see your ethernet there?
[12:54] <Hfuy-> wait one
[12:54] <Hfuy-> oh god, there's craptons of it
[12:54] <Hfuy-> I assume I'm looking for "marvell ethernet something something"
[12:54] <Sidewinder1> Hfuy-, Not a good sign.
[12:54] <Dr_Willis>  lspci | grep net                 should show what NIC you have.
[12:55] <Hfuy-> can't type a pipe
[12:55] <Hfuy-> bad keymap
[12:55] <pb> dude this laptop your working on sounds like a pos..
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[12:55] <Hfuy-> I can type a pipe here
[12:55] <Hfuy-> just not on ubuntu
[12:55] <ThinkT510> he said he's on a desktop
[12:55] <Hfuy-> so which OS is the POS :)
[12:55] <pb> even worse
[12:55] <Hfuy-> (you rather walked into that one, sorry)
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> look at the lspci output then for the network Line..
[12:56] <Hfuy-> ok, I found it
[12:56] <Hfuy-> lspci grepped for "net" outputs nothing
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> $ lspci | grep Net
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> 07:01.0 Network controller: Ralink corp. RT2500 Wireless 802.11bg (rev 01)
[12:56] <Hfuy-> yes.
[12:56] <Hfuy-> I get nothing
[12:57] <ThinkT510> Hfuy-: then it is likely a hardware issue
[12:57] <pb> my desktop is like 10 years old.. I booted up ubuntu without an issue. using legacy hardware.. its not the OS.
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> check 'dmesg' command output at the end.. may be some error/infos
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> Hopefully the NIC is not disabled in the bios. ;)
[12:57] <Hfuy-> it's not
[12:57] <Hfuy-> I tried that a lot
[12:57] <Hfuy-> first thing I checked.
[12:58] <Hfuy-> It's behaving as if that were so, though.
[12:58] <Hfuy-> should I grep dmesg for net, perhaps
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> just look at the end of the output
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> you cant do a | so you cant really grep easially. :)
[12:59] <Hfuy-> I found the pipe character. It's a shifted #.
[12:59]  * DebolazW decides he needs to learn about preseeding.
[12:59] <Hfuy-> The only instances of "net" in dmesg are "audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled"
[12:59] <Hfuy-> and "bluetooth: BNEP (Ethernet Emulation) ver 1.3"
[12:59] <ThinkT510> Hfuy-: by default ubuntu uses american keymap (mine is uk)
[12:59] <Hfuy-> Yes I noticed.
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> [    3.252067] r8169 Gigabit Ethernet driver 2.3LK-NAPI loaded
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. soundding more and more like the NIC is totally unseen by the OS/system
[13:00] <Hfuy-> Yes.
[13:00] <Hfuy-> Checking BIOS settings one last time.
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> even if it was unplugged it would still show up in dmesg/lspci
[13:01] <Hfuy-> in bios, "Marvell LAN1: Enabled"
[13:01] <Hfuy-> LAN Boot ROM is disabled, but that should be fine, right?
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> that woule be to boot from LAN. so id think that would be off.
[13:02] <Hfuy-> it is.
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> does it say/mention the exact marvell Chipset?
[13:04] <Hfuy> the Asus download page for this mobo offers "MarvellYukon_Ethernet_V111053_Windows7"
[13:04] <Hfuy> So I guess it's a Marvell Yukon
[13:04] <Hfuy> Is that supported by default in Ubuntu?
[13:04] <Hfuy> Even if not I would expect it to appear in lspci
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> i cant recall ever seeing a wired nic that wasent supported..
[13:05] <Hfuy> well presumably it's possible.
[13:05] <ThinkT510> Hfuy: yeah, it would appear in lspci even if there wasn't a driver for it
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/161507/marvell-yukon-ethernet
[13:05] <shomon> hi, on ubuntu if I want users to be able to log in with the same users/passwords over a local wifi network.. how do I set it up?
[13:06] <Hfuy> You know, this network flakiness only occurs when I plug the suspect LAN hardware into the router.
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/161507/marvell-yukon-ethernet   shows that card may use the sky2 module. O
[13:06] <Hfuy> Does that mean it should be supported
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> depends on the exact chipset..but id say yes.
[13:07] <Hfuy> And even if it wasn't supported, it should still show up in lspci.
[13:07] <Hfuy> ...right?
[13:07] <ThinkT510> Hfuy: i'd expect it would appear just as unknown
[13:07] <j0lly> Hi im running ubuntu in efi mode from a macbook.. everyrhing smooth but ive seen kernel start with efifb than after kms load i915 intel the console switch to inteldrmfb with a flikwring of the screen... how could i boot the kernwl with intel efi driver from beginning?
[13:08] <j0lly> Have to compile intel driver oe something in the kernwl statically?
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> googling some more -> Yukon 88E8052 ethernet card driver called sk98lin
[13:08] <j0lly> Or just blccklist something?
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> Hfuy:  check dmesg command  befor you plug the cable in. and a few moments afterwards...
[13:08] <Hfuy> okay
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> there may be some info messages at the end.
[13:09] <Hfuy> right now, after boot, the end of dmesg is all about "drm noveau 0000:04:00:0: PMFB4_SUBP1 0x037f0040" etc
[13:10] <Hfuy> and sound stuff
[13:10] <Hfuy> it found the nvidia sound hardware
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> thats  Noveau - nvidia driver stuff for the video.
[13:10] <ThinkT510> Hfuy: nouveau is for graphics
[13:10] <Hfuy> fine
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> I forget the command to watch dmesg output in real time...
[13:10] <ThinkT510> tail -f
[13:10] <Hfuy> fine
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> tail -f /var/log/dmesg     ;)
[13:11] <Hfuy> I just plugged in the LAN cable and no new dmesg stuff appeared
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> and then as you plug/unplug/do stuff - new messages should appear.. if Nothing changes on plug insertion/removal.. well.. i would say that points to a bad NIC/port
[13:11] <ThinkT510> i concur
[13:12] <shomon> how do you set up ubuntu on many machines so that all users can log in on all machines?
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> I cant think of any other tests.. then to try a radiaclly differnt disrto like TinyCorelinux that Might  be doing somthign differnt/see it. (its only a 10mb disrto)
[13:12] <Hfuy> honestly guys I got the same results in windows
[13:12] <Hfuy> which is a WILDLY different OS.
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> then i guess we can safely say 'Hes Dead Jim!'
[13:13] <Hfuy> I tend to agree
[13:13]  * Hfuy calls the supplier
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> because we all know windows is perfect.. :)
[13:14] <Chromeboy> Hi guys, just wondering what the best way to upgrade from 12.04 -> 12.10 is? I don't really want to have to burn any discs and note that I'm operating inside virtual box... can I do it straight from the terminal?
[13:14] <SolomonGrundy> OOOOOHHHHhhHHHH SNAP!!!!
[13:14] <jpds> Chromeboy: #ubuntu+1
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> Chromeboy  ask in #ubuntu+1
[13:14] <Chromeboy> ok
[13:14] <Chromeboy> thanks
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> Chromeboy:  you dont need to burn disks for virtualbox.. it can boot ISO files....
[13:15] <administrador> hello!!
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> be best to test 12.10 in a clean install in vbox i imagine. :) first.
[13:15] <administrador> spanish??
[13:15] <Chromeboy> @Dr_Willis yeah your probably right
[13:15] <shomon> does anyone know how to set up user management across a lan in ubuntu?
[13:15] <SolomonGrundy> What would I do to upgrade from 32-bit Ubuntu to 64-bit Ubuntu?
[13:15] <Chromeboy> thanks :)
[13:15] <shomon> please :S
[13:15] <ThinkT510> !es | administrador
[13:16] <ThinkT510> SolomonGrundy: you don't, you reinstall
[13:16] <compdoc> Hfuy, Ive had to add pci network cards to a lot of systems that had the onboard ethernet fail
[13:17] <SolomonGrundy> Would it be worth the leg-work to upgrade to the 64-bit version?
[13:17] <ThinkT510> SolomonGrundy: not in the least
[13:17] <j0lly> So how could i start the kernel use the inteldrmfb instead the generic efifb driver? Without switch in the middle of boot process?
[13:17] <ThinkT510> SolomonGrundy: just reinstall
[13:18] <SolomonGrundy> I understand that, but would it be worth it to wipe out my 32-bit to install 64-bit?
[13:18] <ThinkT510> SolomonGrundy: oh sorry, depends on how much you want 64bit
[13:19] <ThinkT510> SolomonGrundy: and how easy you find setting up ubuntu
[13:19] <kristenbb>  I'm trying to find where the nx sessions are kept. My client offers to create new ones, but not delete existing ones.
[13:19] <SolomonGrundy> I haven't been able to find a solid reason to switch.
[13:20] <ThinkT510> SolomonGrundy: if you need it then go for it, if you just want it and it won't be too much hassle then go for it
[13:20] <SolomonGrundy> Any significant changes between the 32-bit and 64-bit?
[13:20] <ThinkT510> SolomonGrundy: from a users perspective they are identical
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> ive found my video reencding a bit faster in 64bit.
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> and really cant find many reasons to Not go 64bit on 64bit hardware.
[13:22] <ThinkT510> Dr_Willis +1
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> even my netbook is somehow 64bit ;)
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> i think its sort of a fake 64 bit.. but i was suprised my 64bit flash worked on it.
[13:26] <ocx_> whats a good open source ERP software to be installed on linux?
[13:26] <shomon> tryton
[13:26] <shomon> for varying definitions of "good"
[13:26] <KiteHawk> vtiger
[13:27] <KiteHawk> VTiger seemed to be pretty cool crms
[13:27] <BotaniCar> isn't vtiger a CMS ?
[13:27] <shomon> crm is different though
[13:27] <KiteHawk> CRMS
[13:27] <shomon> we are using tryton to process product lists, prices, storage, times...
[13:27] <shomon> and produce reports
[13:27] <shomon> so more erp
[13:27] <shomon> it does appointments and contacts too though I think
[13:27] <BotaniCar> i'd try OpenBravo if you need a ERP
[13:28] <KiteHawk> Drupal web based erp too
[13:28] <karthick87> I have created useraccount from terminal. But it is not showing home folders for that newly created user account. I have created it using "useradd -m -s /bin/bash username".. But when i view it from terminal using ls /home/username it is empty i am not able to find Desktop, Music, Pictures fodler..
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> whoever asked for ERP: http://www.openerp.com/
[13:30] <kazim59> is the left sidebar really sticky in 12.04, or is it a bug I am facing?
[13:30] <ThinkT510> kazim59: sticky?
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> kazim59  it's sticky
[13:30] <kazim59> ThinkT510: like in 11.10, it used to slide out of view, making all the space available
[13:31] <kazim59> MonkeyDust: okay.. you never know when unity has got a feature, and when its a bug
[13:31] <ahoneybun> You mean autohide and window dodge?
[13:31] <ThinkT510> kazim59: oh, isn't that configurable
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> kazim59  sarcast;)
[13:31] <kazim59> ThinkT510: no idea, just spent 4 min on 12.04
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> kazim59  try MyUnity
[13:32] <Smilex> does the ubuntu repo have mysql workbench on it?
[13:32] <ThinkT510> kazim59: check the settings, i'm pretty sure you can set it to autohide
[13:32] <kazim59> ThinkT510: sure thanks
[13:32] <kazim59> let me first experience it this way... :-)
[13:33] <ThinkT510> !info mysql-workbench | Smilex
[13:33] <KiteHawk> 12.04 runs really slow how can we disable unity?
[13:33] <kazim59> yes there is an option
[13:33] <ThinkT510> Kitar|st: install another desktop
[13:34] <Smilex> ThinkT510: ok, thanks
[13:34] <ThinkT510> Smilex: no worries :)
[13:35] <Smilex> ThinkT510: wait, can I private msg ubottu to get information from the ubuntu repo like that?
[13:35] <kristenbb>  I'm trying to find where the nx sessions are kept. My client offers to create new ones, but not delete existing ones.
[13:35] <ahoneybun> kazim59,  are you talking about autohide?
[13:36] <ThinkT510> Smilex: indeed you can
[13:36] <kazim59> ahoneybun: yes, I found it
[13:36] <ThinkT510> !msgthebot | Smilex
[13:36] <kazim59> but I think I decreased the size to 32... and that's better.
[13:36] <kazim59> better than autohide
[13:37] <ahoneybun> kazim59, good, silly freenode I saw your message like 5 mins ago but had to register in the chatroom! lol
[13:37] <kazim59> ahoneybun: lol
[13:37] <ahoneybun> kazim59, now I was too late lol
[13:37] <Smilex> ThinkT510: thanks, need it to help a friend
[13:38] <kazim59> ahoneybun: all credit in my finding goes to you
[13:38] <ahoneybun> kazim59, I was not here lol
[13:39] <j0lly> Hey what about video driver in efi mode? How could i boot with intelfb instead generic efifb? Have to rwcompile?
[13:40] <ahoneybun> j0lly, darn you UEFI
[13:40] <markiv> hey
[13:40] <ahoneybun> markdark_, hello!
[13:40] <ahoneybun> markiv, hell!
[13:40] <ahoneybun> hello
[13:40] <KiteHawk> best soundcard for recording and compatibility with ubuntu 12.04
[13:41] <KiteHawk> ?
[13:42] <ahoneybun> KiteHawk, I'm sorry I can not recommend you one as I do not do that.
[13:42] <Hfuy> they're refusing to trans-ship the replacement board
[13:43] <Hfuy> bitches
[13:43] <j0lly> ahoneybun, well this is good also for non efi.. how could i use inetlfb instead vesagb?  4 me ia more impo the 1 question... heje
[13:43] <ahoneybun> Hfuy, language please
[13:43] <Hfuy> Which language?
[13:43] <ahoneybun> Hfuy, cursing
[13:43] <Hfuy> Oh, please. Aren't we all grownups?
[13:44] <ThinkT510> Hfuy: channel policy
[13:44] <ThinkT510> !language
[13:44] <ScottHarrison> Hfuy, no, not everyone here is an adult. It's also beside the point, foul language isn't a sign of maturity... quite the opposite.
[13:44] <ahoneybun> yea
[13:44] <shade_facet> a
[13:44] <Hfuy> I don't HAVE a family, so you'll have to overlook any minor transgressions.
[13:45] <ScottHarrison> Hfuy, "minor transgressions" are fine, just accept the channel policy when you have been informed of it.
[13:45] <Hfuy> I've said far worse than that, in any case!
[13:46] <ThinkT510> Hfuy: the point is you don't need to
[13:46] <ahoneybun> Hfuy,  "Please be considerate of everyone and keep all the Ubuntu IRC channels friendly places for everyone. This means that you should avoid any language which may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such language."
[13:46] <Guest80119> I have just install iHRIS(Human Resource Information System) 4.1.2 an when i link my mange page it displays this :Site update in progress. We will wait a few moments before retrying.
[13:47] <Hfuy> You need to be a bit careful about that - almost anything can be considered offensive by someone.
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> Guest80119  linux has HRM programs too
[13:47] <ahoneybun> j0lly, even though I have a UEFI BIOS I do not fully understand a lot of it
[13:48] <ScottHarrison> Hfuy, you're quickly heading in to troll territory...
[13:48] <ahoneybun> Hfuy, try I think it mostly covers cursing though, just treat as if there are child in here. There are child/teen GNU/Linux users
[13:48] <Hfuy> well, that's really their parents' problem, not mine.
[13:48] <Guest80119> not HRM iHRIS.
[13:49] <ahoneybun> Hfuy, no it is your problem as you joined this IRC room and agreed to the policy when you did
[13:49] <ScottHarrison> ahoneybun, ignore the troll?
[13:49] <j0lly> Ahoneybun, me neiher thats why i want to learn.... bjut this seems a basic kernel and bootup thing... how could i use a drivwr instwd other at startup?
[13:49] <Hfuy> I'm afraid not, but if you don't want to discuss it, that's fine.
[13:49] <day> shit im 1min 2 late
[13:49] <ThinkT510> !language | day
[13:50] <ahoneybun> ScottHarrison, maybe I should. I think I'm becoming a problem myself.
[13:50] <indigoferal> ThinkT510, would it be right to assume that you have a lenovo thinkpad t510 ? if yes i have some questions
[13:50] <DebolazW> Can the content of an ubuntu ISO be rewritten simply by mounting it rw? (Given that they are hybrid isos)
[13:51] <ThinkT510> indigoferal: indeed
[13:51] <Hfuy> Default ubuntu desktop is quite pretty.
[13:51] <Hfuy> Sort of... splodgey red-purple?
[13:51] <ahoneybun> DebolazW, I believe the hybrid isos are for using the dd command
[13:51] <indigoferal> Is yours a 64 bit machine
[13:52] <ThinkT510> indigoferal: yes
[13:52] <DebolazW> Hfuy: Default ubuntu desktop is one of the uglier things I've seen in life. Purple wasn't pretty back in the XP days, and it haven't grown more attractive since then.
[13:52] <Hfuy> Is grep case-sensitive?
[13:52] <ahoneybun> j0lly, I'm not sure I could not get WIndows 7 and Ubuntu to dual boot on my UEFI machine so I just used wubi
[13:52] <ThinkT510> Hfuy: yes
[13:52] <Hfuy> Debolaz: It's prettier'n Windows 7.
[13:52] <karthick87> I have created useraccount from terminal. But it is not showing home folders for that newly created user account. I have created it using "useradd -m -s /bin/bash username".. But when i view it from terminal using ls /home/username it is empty i am not able to find Desktop, Music, Pictures fodler..
[13:52] <indigoferal> ThinkT510, i have had a major issue, will pastebin the whole thing in a bit and look forward to your comments
[13:52] <avelldiroll> Hfuy: yes, except if you add the -i flag
[13:52] <ScottHarrison> Debolaz, I don't mind it. Definitely better than some others I've seen.
[13:53] <ThinkT510> indigoferal: can you post lspci?
[13:53] <DebolazW> ScottHarrison: That there are worse things doesn't mean something isn't ugly. But don't get me wrong, Unity is exceedingly pleasant to use functionality-wise, I'm talking purely about the visual aspect.
[13:53] <ScottHarrison> karthick87, have you tried logging in to the account? I can't say that's the issue but it may help.
[13:53] <Hfuy> so "lspci | grep -i net"
[13:53] <indigoferal> am away from the machine but will link to th graphics card as well
[13:54] <Hfuy> I once put Compiz on a laptop.
[13:54] <Hfuy> Before windows 7 and the Aero stuff, that did raise some eyebrows.
[13:54] <ScottHarrison> Debolaz, well, I won't say the default is "pretty" but I don't rush to change it whenever I do a new build. As for Unity, I agree, it's excellent.
[13:54] <Hfuy> I quite like it.
[13:55] <cheryl_> Hi, having a problem installing spotify using wine, can anyone help plse? I get this error "The file '/home/cheryl/Downloads/Spotify Installer.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit."
[13:55] <Hfuy> Better than when Ubuntu used to mean "brown"
[13:55] <DebolazW> One of my main difficulties when trying new distros is that I don't get to use Unity on them. (In most cases)
[13:55] <DebolazW> Hfuy: Debatable.
[13:55] <Hfuy> You have to wonder if the person who made the "brown" decision had eyes.
[13:55] <DebolazW> Hfuy: I'm not arguing that brown was better…. But I'm not convinced purple was a step up.
[13:56] <Hfuy> It seems to opt for rather softer text antialiasing than windows does.,
[13:56] <Hfuy> I'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing.
[13:57] <gitesh> Hi
[13:57] <Hfuy> Perhaps I'll try it on this laptop.
[13:57] <Hfuy> Does it come with an IRC client?
[13:58] <grefter> heh
[13:58] <DJones> Hfuy: Yes, xchat or irssi for command line
[13:58] <ThinkT510> Hfuy: not sure, i just install xchat
[13:58] <DJones> xchis GUI based
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> irssi <3
[13:58] <grefter> irssi ftw!!!
[13:58] <Hfuy> oh
[13:58] <Hfuy> it's telling me to use apt.
[13:58]  * Hfuy is afraid of apt
[13:58] <grefter> gui chat..sooo...windoze!! :D
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> apt is the 'installer' in ubuntu
[13:59] <ThinkT510> Hfuy: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[13:59] <ThinkT510> Hfuy: synaptic is better
[13:59] <Hfuy> Synaptic is just a front end to apt, isn't it?
[13:59] <ThinkT510> Hfuy: yes
[13:59] <Hfuy> Then it has alllll the same problems.
[13:59] <gitesh> Thanks to <b636bc7ca>  & <JessicaW> Finally I could start Internet connection on my server with pppoeconf, today :)
[13:59] <ThinkT510> Hfuy: if you want super simple though you could use the software centre
[13:59] <Hfuy> anyway, "unable to locate package xchat"
[14:00] <grefter> apt-get install irssi
[14:00] <grefter> :D
[14:00] <ThinkT510> !find xchat
[14:00] <ThinkT510> Hfuy: its there
[14:00] <Hfuy> would I need a network connection for this
[14:00] <ThinkT510> Hfuy: yes
[14:00] <gitesh> Can I have a GUI for ubuntu-server 12.04 ?
[14:00] <grefter> no
[14:00] <Hfuy> yes? no?
[14:00] <grefter> why would you need a network connection for the internet?
[14:00] <ThinkT510> Hfuy: yes, it downloads the ackages from the repo
[14:00] <Hfuy> Okay.
[14:00] <ezio> is there any way to make dd not continue forever?
[14:01] <Hfuy> That's a grossly unhelpful error message, then.
[14:01] <ezio> when copying from dev zero
[14:01] <Hfuy> it also says "you will have to enable the component called "universe""
[14:02] <Hfuy> what does that mean
[14:02] <indigoferal> ThinkT510, problems and associated details pastebinned here description of problem - http://pastebin.com/QZCYMGJ0 - t510 xorg fatal error - no screen found, xorg.conf.failsafe http://pastebin.com/f5UhBF66 -Graphics card  and other details - http://pastebin.com/wgrprGPS
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> Hfuy  that's a software source
[14:03] <Hfuy> how would I enable a component called universe then
[14:04] <Hfuy> Can't I just download an installer from somewhere and run it!?
[14:04] <ThinkT510> indigoferal: what was on /home
[14:05] <Hfuy> How do I become root, here
[14:05] <ThinkT510> indigoferal: if it was already used from another install it most likely had a xorg config that conflicted/overwrote the default config
[14:05] <Hfuy> I can't stand all this you-don't-own-your-own-computer "sudo" stuff
[14:05] <Therion87> lol
[14:06] <stevanr> lol
[14:06] <SolomonGrundy> Hahaha
[14:06] <indigoferal> yes it was from another install - but where is the xorg strored in the home ??
[14:06] <Therion87> It's for your own good
[14:06] <Sidewinder1> Hfuy, sudo for non-graphical programs; gksudo for GUIs.
[14:06] <ThinkT510> Hfuy: with that kind of mentality perhaps you should go back to windows
[14:06] <stevanr> for you own computer good
[14:06] <Hfuy> oh don't worry
[14:06] <Therion87> Sudo prevents you from messing stuff up and things from gaining root access that shouldn;t
[14:06] <Hfuy> windows is chasing linux in that regard
[14:06] <Hfuy> bloody user access control
[14:06] <SolomonGrundy> root access is like asking your older brother if you can play his games.
[14:06] <Hfuy> that gets switched off first, I can tell you
[14:06] <Therion87> If you want to be root in terminal permanently then type sudo su
[14:07] <Hfuy> Sudo prevents nothing. I've had apt hose systems. There is no security.
[14:07] <SolomonGrundy> sometimes he just says 'no. f**k off.'
[14:07] <nemo> hrm. http://askubuntu.com/questions/166172/hedgewars-for-ubuntu-12-04 - wish I could tell this user he probably just needs OpenGL which most likely can be solved by installing the nvidia or ATI driver in jockey
[14:07] <Therion87> You name in terminal will turn red
[14:07] <nemo> but unfortunately he never filed a bug :(
[14:07] <ThinkT510> Therion87: thats not the way to do it
[14:07] <nemo> so I shall not be able to help him
[14:07] <indigoferal> wincedows are the only folks i know who allow one to install software that can wipe out everything just by running a measly executbale
[14:07] <Hfuy> indigoferal: strictly speaking only if you're an admin.
[14:07] <Hfuy> But then you should be an admin as otherwise the machine becomes a pain to use - just like linux.
[14:07] <indigoferal> tell that to the iranians
[14:08] <Sidewinder1> Heh,.
[14:08] <Hfuy> why does it say "ubuntu@ubuntu:~$"
[14:08] <genii-around> The basic idea is... if you have to ask how to get permanent admin/root and already don't know how, are you really prepared for the repercussions of a bad or mistyped command?
[14:08] <fidel_> user@host
[14:08] <SolomonGrundy> I recently switched to Linux. I admit it was more or less for all the eye-candy stuff, but under the hood this runs much better than 'lose'-dows.
[14:09] <marcos_> Ola Pessoal, estou com um pequeno problema aqui e não estou conseguindo resolver
[14:09] <fidel_> !en > marcos_
[14:09] <indigoferal> not really - the primary uses however noob is allowed admin access - the chances of such a user running a malicious programme is very remote - its difficult to find something so malicious for linux , not so for windows
[14:09] <fidel_> !es > marcos_
[14:09] <indigoferal> Hfuy, because its a live session of ubuntu
[14:09] <Hfuy> is there no way I can download an installer and move it over onto the no-network PC on a flash key or something
[14:10] <Hfuy> or is this like Steam, where you HAVE to have a network connection
[14:10] <indigoferal> Hfuy, use apton
[14:10] <indigoferal> install the programme in your live session
[14:10] <indigoferal> use apton to create an iso
[14:10] <fidel_> Hfuy: in theory its possible to move a single .deb to another host - if he has all dependencies
[14:10] <Dr_Willis>  Hfuy  totally depedns on what you are installing also.
[14:10] <marcos_> i+ marcos
[14:11] <OerHeks> !offline
[14:11] <indigoferal> then you can extract the packages in your non net box and run dpkg -i *.deb to install the packages
[14:11] <fidel_> Hfuy: but basically you should always stick to apt via online/local sources
[14:11] <indigoferal> fidel_, in practice its very easy
[14:11] <indigoferal> see the bot agrees with me
[14:11] <Dr_Willis> I always set up an apt-cacher-ng server on my home lan. :) that way its very quick to install apps on other boxs on the lan.
[14:11] <marcos_> aguem aqui fala pt
[14:12] <fidel_> marcos_: we dont speak spoanish inhere
[14:12] <fidel_> marcos_: the bot send you a private message in spanish
[14:12] <fidel_> consider reading it
[14:12] <indigoferal> ThinkT510, ?? so you think the problem is xorg in my /home - so where would it be located
[14:12] <islandmonkey> !es | marcos_
[14:12] <Dr_Willis> indigoferal:  xorg.conf is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:12] <SolomonGrundy> Difference between trolling and sarcasm can be explained in the example of this one sentence: "Windows is getting a new update."
[14:13] <indigoferal> Dr_Willis, yes thats what i thought but have a huge problem installing on a thinkpad t 510 , who luckily is here him/her self "-)
[14:13] <indigoferal> :-) i mean
[14:13] <cmake> I am just curious I know you can read all the man pages online. But I am pretty sure all of the ones for my distro are kept in /usr/share/man in a .gz format. But when I open one it is in a format not readable with a standard gedit program very well.. so I guess I am asking what the man and info tools do ... do they just go to this directory and unzip/extract the particular command page then translate it to a readable format....
[14:13] <ThinkT510> indigoferal: i'd guess its some conf file that is overriding the normal setup
[14:14] <indigoferal> yeah, thats what i think - so am going to delete all the conf files and leave only the data and do a clean install
[14:14] <ThinkT510> indigoferal: does it have an .xinitrc?
[14:14] <cmake> If so how I am assuming there is a program that I can uses other then man / info that would allow me to convert these man pages to html or text
[14:14] <B0g4r7> cmake, using the "man" program is the usual way to read manpages.  If you want to decompress the files and look at them directly, you would probably use the gzip or gunzip program to decompress them.
[14:15] <indigoferal> don't have that machine so not sure ? but sounds familiar
[14:15] <cmake> I understand that but is there away to manually convert them to text , html , postscript , pdf ,...etc
[14:15] <indigoferal> Dr_Willis, in case you are interested in the problem - description of problem - http://pastebin.com/QZCYMGJ0 - t510 xorg fatal error - no screen found , xorg.conf.failsafe http://pastebin.com/f5UhBF66 - , Graphics card  and other details - http://pastebin.com/wgrprGPS
[14:16] <B0g4r7> cmake, well if you gunzip them, the files are text inside, just like they appear when reading them using the "man" program.
[14:17] <cmake> but they have some syntax characters not exactly like reading them through man or info ... Also that won't allow me to create a pdf , ps , or other file
[14:17] <Dr_Willis> theres man2pdf and other tools..
[14:18] <Dr_Willis> theres many web sites that also have the man pages on them  for online reading.
[14:18] <sipior> cmake: process them directly with groff, if you like. try the "-T" switch and output PostScript.
[14:18] <Dr_Willis> sipior:  :) i was tryign to rember what they were formated with.. been years since i messed with *roff
[14:19] <cmake> I always wonder what groff was is that just a program that converts text to ps or pdf
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> troff, nroff, groff, ;) old skool word processing.
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> cmake:  its an old wordprocessing system/typesetting/documention system from like 20+ yrs back.
[14:19] <B0g4r7> cmake, mm, I suppose they do.  I guess you could do something like "man 8 cat > output.txt" to get text output from man...
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> similer in how TeX works.
[14:20] <B0g4r7> Well, bad example as there is no manpage 8 for cat, but you get the idea I hope.
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/04/19/terminal-tip-output-man-pages-as-plain-text-with-col/
[14:20] <ScottHarrison> cmake,  http://tldp.org/docs.html
[14:21] <cmake> never mind man groff tells me :)
[14:21] <Dr_Willis> http://www.gnutoolbox.com/man-page-txtpdfdochtml/
[14:21] <cmake> does man uses the local man pages or does it go online and download them when  man xxxx
[14:21] <Dr_Willis> man -t man | ps2pdf -  > man.pdf
[14:22] <h00k> cmake: local man pages
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> ive seen some mini-disrtos that reroute to online ones. :)
[14:22] <cmake> gotch hook , DR_W*
[14:23] <Dr_Willis> ive had seen big thick books  of printed man pages. in some old computer labs:)
[14:23] <roasted> So... I opted to remove obsolete packages during my ubuntu upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04... and now it crashed and I see a flashing cursor, black screen. Nothing else.
[14:23] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset | roasted
[14:26] <indigoferal> roasted, +1 to what Dr_Willis says
[14:27] <roasted> Dr_Willis: I didn't reboot. I was actively in the OS logged in as my administrator user when this happened.
[14:28] <roasted> Dr_Willis: I have tow onder if GDM was part of the obsolete packages (or gnome 2 for that matter) and it nuked them when I said "go"
[14:28] <roasted> Dr_Willis: I can SSH in, but what I'm afraid of is rebooting it via SSH if the upgrade is still happening.
[14:28] <cmake> would this http://www.linuxmanpages.com/ have all the man pages you could ever install currently. Or what I am saying is this the most up to date complete man pages currently for online reading
[14:29] <Gallomimia_> wow lots of great updates lately
[14:29] <animus123> how to convert .rpm package into .deb package?
[14:30] <ssta> animus123: alien
[14:30] <ThinkT510> animus123: you don't
[14:30] <DJones> !alien | animus123
[14:30] <x-ip> hi, a question ... the source code from the ubuntu installer, is open source ?
[14:30] <B0g4r7> animus123, look at the "alien" tool maybe.
[14:30] <Hfuy> An average human might expect gzip to be the compressor, and gunzip to be the decompressor.
[14:30] <animus123> okkk thanks allllllllllll....
[14:30] <ThinkT510> animus123: what pckage are you wanting to install?
[14:31] <Jef91> I've install libreoffice office on Ubuntu 64bit and the spell check doesn't work. It works fine on my 32bit system though :(. Ubuntu 12.04
[14:31] <B0g4r7> Jef, did you let it download and install the language packs to wanted to at install time?
[14:31] <B0g4r7> s/to/it/
[14:32] <shaneo> hey guys im trying to allow apache2 to use cgi. Where might i find srm.conf?
[14:32] <Lil> Ok guys. I have a wierd problem. I have an ubuntu and windows machine in my network, with samba setup. When transfering files it is extremely slow (180KB/s), however.. If I just upload the file via. FTP i get 6-8MB/s... what the hell could be causing the regular transfers to be so slow?
[14:32] <animus123> ThinkT510:actually i have jre .but i just wanted to do some experiment on converting .rpm jre package to .deb java.hence.
[14:32] <Jef91> No B0g4r7
[14:32] <Jef91> I just did sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> Lil:  transfers slow both ways?
[14:32] <Jef91> just like on my 32bit system
[14:32] <roasted> Dr_Willis: I wonder if I should just reboot it and hope for the best? I'm SSH'd in and tailing syslog and seeing nothing.
[14:32] <x-ip>  Lil i would suspect about machine name resolution
[14:33] <animus123> ThinkT510:that ,the converted package does really install or not?hence i asked.
[14:33] <Lil> Yes, both ways.
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> roasted:  dident you bet your car this would be no problem? ;)   I have no idea honestly. I tend to do clean installs.
[14:33] <B0g4r7> Jef91, Yeah, you might try that.  Open the "Language Support" control panel thing and see if it asks to install them.
[14:33] <viddy> roasted: just check top/ps to figure out if its doing anything :i
[14:33] <roasted> Dr_Willis: yeah, but I have two cars, one being on its last leg. Guess I left out some info in that car bet. :P
[14:33] <ThinkT510> animus123: it might, but i would highly advise against it
[14:33] <Jef91> B0g4r7 any idea how to do it via the command line? I installed from a minimal CD
[14:34] <Lil> x-ip; Not totally sure what you mean by "machine name resolution" ?
[14:34] <galaxy> hello
[14:34] <galaxy> jest ktoś ?
[14:34] <Lil> When I connect via. FTP tho.. i'm using the direct local IP
[14:34] <animus123> ThinkT510:okkkkk!!
[14:34] <B0g4r7> animus123, I would recommend you just get the binary JRE installer from oracle.com rather than trying to use an rpm.
[14:34] <x-ip> Lil, when you share something using samba, you use machine names to connect to a resource
[14:34] <B0g4r7> Jef91, I'm afraid I don't.
[14:35] <galaxy> jak zmienić wygląd na zwykły ubuntu ?
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> animus123:  theres manyu other ways to install java. theres ppa's and some scripts out to help.
[14:35] <DJones> !pl | galaxy
[14:35] <B0g4r7> It's probably some pagkage name alias you'd "install" with apt.
[14:35] <galaxy> #ubuntu.pl
[14:35] <galaxy> dobra
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> animus123:  point is. You defainatly dont want to use a java RPM ;)
[14:36] <roasted> Is there a way to gently reboot Linux without using the "do what I tell you" sudo style? I ask in reference to this... I want to reboot it, but if it's still running the upgrade process, I don't want to sudo it to force it. If I can get it to reboot IF its idle, that'd be nice... Any ideas anybody?
[14:36] <animus123> Dr_Willis:ofcourse!! but i already said,i have java in my laptop.i just wanted to do that experiment.that's all.
[14:37] <jb__> #linucmce
[14:37] <Dr_Willis> roasted:  id check the htop/ps  output . and see whats running.   its possible the upgrade tool is showing some dialog/yes/no thing you are somehow not seeing.
[14:37] <animus123> Dr_willis:i have java and installed it from tar.gz package.and also eclipse package...
[14:38] <roasted> Dr_Willis: only PS output is tail, ps, bash. That's it.
[14:38] <roasted> Dr_Willis: htop is not installed, installing quick.
[14:38] <Lil> anyone? :/
[14:38] <shaneo> could someone please assist me with finding srm.conf for apache2
[14:39] <shaneo> so that i may enable cgi on my web server
[14:39] <roasted> Dr_Willis: htop reveals a lot of "/usr/bin/console-kit-daemon --no-daemon" entries.
[14:39] <indigoferal> Lil, plz repeat again oyour ?
[14:39] <indigoferal> * your
[14:39] <Lil> I have an ubuntu and windows machine in my network, with samba setup. When transfering files it is extremely slow (180KB/s), however.. If I just upload the file via. FTP i get 6-8MB/s... what the hell could be causing the regular transfers to be so slow?
[14:41] <Hachya> Lil: you don't have a limit for the bandwidth being used via the file sharing server?
[14:41] <Lil> No, I don't think so.. and that doesn't really make sense, why would it be so much quicker via. FTP if that were the case?
[14:41] <Hachya> like each server should have some ratelimiter of sorts, which is the first place I'd look, like max rate, w/e
[14:42] <Dr_Willis> roasted:  no mention of 'dialog' in ps output eh?  how brave do you feel? ;)
[14:42] <Hachya> well, like I said the only thing i can think is that one has a ratelimit set
[14:42] <Hachya> and the ftp doesn't....
[14:42] <roasted> Dr_Willis: nope, now I just see htop, htop, tail, bash, ps.
[14:42] <Lil> is there a way to limit the speed via. samba?
[14:43] <Hachya> Lil: I'm sure there's something I have messed with it though....
[14:43] <roasted> Dr_Willis: it'd be nice if there was a gentle shutdown, meaning... if it's in a dialog box waiting for user interaction, or in the middle of something it can't interrupt, then it cancels the shutdown/reboot..............
[14:43] <roasted> Dr_Willis: bingo. the server is back to login screen, CLI styule.
[14:44] <inseparables> bonjours
[14:44] <roasted> Dr_Willis: just going to reboot, says reboot required...
[14:44] <Lil> Hachya: I will keep looking around. Thanks for trying..
[14:44] <animus123> B0g4r7:thanks friend....
[14:47] <roasted> Dr_Willis: boot screen looks like it'll enduce a seizure - constant flashing, no movement. Nice :D
[14:47] <animus123> Dr_willis:hey would you solve my one more problem?
[14:48] <animus123> Dr_Willis::hey would you solve my one more problem?
[14:49] <ThinkT510> animus123: he can't if you don't say what the problem is
[14:50] <animus123> ThinkT510:i have a laptop.which has sis built in graphic card.so i downloaded the driver for sis. & it provided the specific resolution suitable for my laptop.but when i started to shutdown my laptop,instead of shut down splash screen a different colors of strips was appearing.it looks so weird.hence please help.
[14:50] <Lil> Hachya, after a little more testing.. its only really slow when writing to the samba server
[14:51] <ThinkT510> animus123: i've never used sis graphics sorry
[14:51] <roasted> Dr_Willis: took forever to start up, but I have a GUI :D
[14:52] <Hachya> Lil: odd....
[14:53] <animus123> ThinkT510:but atleast you heard this problem,didn't you?
[14:54] <indigoferal> animus123, i have the same problem with nvidia installed / not installed - am not sure so would also be happy to know what the solution is :-)
[14:54] <ikono> how do i get wireless to work with an acer travelmate 5320? (12.04)
[14:54] <auronandace> animus123: its harmless
[14:55] <francisco123> hola
[14:55] <indigoferal> could be that nosplash is selected and the boot up process is confused / or viceversa "splash enabled"
[14:55] <indigoferal> ikonia, more details of which version of linux and what exactly is not working
[14:55] <indigoferal> * ikono i mean
[14:55] <animus123> auronandace:yes!! it is harmless!! but it look so weird friend.hence
[14:55] <ikono> indigoferal: ubuntu 12.04
[14:55] <ikono> wireless is not working, at all
[14:56] <ikono> i have BC4311
[14:56] <animus123> indigoferal:then!! did you solve this problem??
[14:57] <indigoferal> animus123, nope, that was / is a minor problem in a the dark shadow or a major fatal error problem
[14:57] <indigoferal> will only know if that persists when i do a clean install coming monday so won;t be able to tell you till then
[14:58] <indigoferal> ikono - does the acer have an hardware lock- also what exactly is not working with the wifi ?
[14:58] <ikono> hardware lock? do you mean wifi-button?
[14:59] <ikono> it's not recognized by the network manager. at all. only wired and mobile broadband is working.
[15:00] <ikono> and when i press the wifi button on the laptop, the LED doesn't light up.
[15:01] <indigoferal> check in system settings for restricted drivers
[15:02] <ikono> they're activated
[15:02] <ikono> STA
[15:02] <Onixs> its more of a soft-switch
[15:02] <ikono> soft-switch? :)
[15:02] <AdvoWork> hi there, ive got an external USB hd that isn't being detected, any idea how I can get it back/fix it?
[15:03] <catcher> Hello, I'm experiencing a known bug in Unity/compiz (application switcher segfaults). I'm seeing that there are fixes in a couple branches, but I'm not sure how to switch to them. Also, I'd like Ubuntu Update Manager to still work on my Unity. How can I make this work?
[15:03] <Onixs> Is that HP?
[15:03] <animus123> indigoferal:well i just made conversation with one of the xorg fellow!!! and he said,whatever the problem you facing that's not comes in xorg.is that right?
[15:03] <indigoferal> ikono , is it now working ??
[15:03] <ikono> indigoferal: what do you mean?
[15:04] <francisco123> alguien que hable spanish
[15:04] <Onixs> ikono HP?
[15:04] <ikono> acer travelmate 5320
[15:04] <ikono> the chipset is broadcom, BC4311
[15:05] <indigoferal> animus123, interesting - thats my take too - the problem emanates from /home but xorg is confused and crashes the system - so it may not be an xorg problem but is certainly a problem they get affected by - but they have no solution - which actually is now seeming far more simpler than the xorg reconfigure thingys
[15:05] <indigoferal> iknono - do you have functional internet ?
[15:05] <indigoferal> if so check synaptic for the driver and see if some drivers need to be installed ?
[15:06] <Onixs> ikono soft-switch is software driven
[15:06] <DJones> !es | francisco123
[15:06] <indigoferal> problem with vanilla ubuntu is that sometimes restricted driver don't come easily
[15:06] <roasted> Hello! Upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04...now I can't log in. Just flips right back to the login screen. Any ideas?
[15:06] <ikono> indigoferal: i have the drivers presented in synaptic
[15:06] <ikono> installed. still, no luck.
[15:07] <in^> how do I get a 2d session using vncserver?
[15:07] <ikono> bc-fwcutter, firmware-b43 etc.
[15:07] <indigoferal> hmm, you will have to wait a bit i gtg will be back soon
[15:07] <in^> i get a desktop, menus or launch bar
[15:07] <in^> *no menus or launch bar
[15:07] <indigoferal> but meanwhile google on ow to enable the driver - am sure this is a common problem
[15:09] <animus123> indigoferal:do you know expert.who can solve this problem??
[15:09] <in^> how do I get a 2d session on 11.10 using vncserver?
[15:09] <in^> i get a desktop, but no menus or launch bar
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> in^:  depending on how you start the vnc server. you can tell it exactly what desktop to load.
[15:13] <in^> @Dr_Willis: using command line vncserver :2,  is it something in ~/.vnc/xstartup?
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> i always tend to use the most minimal window manager/desktop i can for vnc.
[15:13] <thiebaude> animus123, maybe ask here, http://askubuntu.com/
[15:14] <animus123> thiebaude:okk thanks..
[15:14] <Dr_Willis> in^:  that script is ran by default to run the desktop. if thers some error. have the xstartup script just launch a terminal at the end. and try running the  destkop from that terminal to look for errors
[15:14] <thiebaude> your welcomed
[15:14] <thiebaude> animus123,
[15:14] <animus123> thiebaude:well, do you facing same problem?
[15:14] <Dr_Willis> in^:  and be sure you are not spawning more and more vnc servers by mistake. :) kill the ones you dont need
[15:15] <thiebaude> animus123, no, I don't have that problem
[15:15] <in^> Dr_Willis: I am killing in between sessions... so once the terminal is up try gnome-session from command line?
[15:16] <Berto> quick crapshoot - what's the best/easiest video editor for Ubuntu 12?
[15:16] <Dr_Willis> in^: im not sure what the correct command is for unity, unity2d, or gnome0-shell
[15:16] <thiebaude> animus123, where did you install your graphics driver from?
[15:16] <Berto> Just need to mix a few videos from ipad, add a watermark, and splice in a couple of screens with text
[15:16] <in^> Dr_Willis: thanks
[15:16] <Dr_Willis> Exec=gnome-session --session=ubuntu
[15:17] <Dr_Willis> seems to be in the ubuntu.desktop file.. so im guessign the command would be 'gnome-session --session=ubuntu'
[15:17] <animus123> thiebaude:to usr/lib/xorg/modules/driver..and xord file :root/etc/x11
[15:17] <Dr_Willis> gnome-session --session=ubuntu-2d
[15:17] <thiebaude> animus123, i mean did your download from a website?
[15:17] <compdoc> in^, its all in how you setup your .vnc/xstart   file
[15:18] <Dr_Willis> i tend to just use icewm, or jwm, or some other minimal setup for VNC
[15:19] <animus123> thiebaude:just wait a sec!!
[15:19] <thiebaude> ok
[15:21] <animus123> thiebaude:sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/sis
[15:21] <pb> guys a little vague and probably incorrect wording. but what is the common problem ubuntu users see when booting, dealing with the encryption mounting
[15:22] <pb> figured id ask before I restarted and wrote it down personally
[15:22] <animus123> thiebaude:why do you want that website?
[15:22] <pb> unable to mount. waite skip or mount manually
[15:23] <thiebaude> animus123, just wondering .
[15:23] <animus123> thiebaude:since you don't have that problem!!
[15:23] <ccowan> Is there an applicaton framework like PhoneGap for Linux Desktop applications? I know this sounds like a weird question but I'm a web developer and there are a few applications I would like to create that would fit better in a desktop model then in a browser.
[15:23] <thiebaude> animus123, did you look in Additional Drivers to see if your driver was there?
[15:23] <pb> dev/mapper/cryptswap..
[15:23] <pb> found it.
[15:24] <erik__> favorite program minitube still nog working on 12.04 but did fine on 11.10 (on 4 different machines). Also video editing nog working in 12.04. I thing i am going back to 11.10. Anybody else experience the same?
[15:25] <Dr_Willis> 'video editing' works here.. ;) but i imagine it depends on your app.
[15:25] <animus123> thiebaude:yup!! i looked.but no drivers available!
[15:25] <thiebaude> ok
[15:25] <leoleon> hello, i´m trying to install ubuntu server 12 but i cannot do it because during the installation its appering a blue or purple display
[15:26] <nishttal2> hi.. my program uses several libs (.so) files that are in my home directory.. i am able to build fine by telling the make file to look at the folder for libs.. but when I try to run its complaining that it couldnt find the libs.. do I HAVE to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH or is there another way?
[15:26] <animus123> thiebaude:actually the main problem is that,sis never provide drivers for linux?it only supports to windows not linux...hence
[15:26] <erik__> Dr_Willis, tried all the programs including openshot, but all crash after 10 minutes or earlyer. On 4 different machines, 2 with ubuntu en 2 with xubuntu 12.04. There suppose to be a bug in Gstreamer?
[15:27] <thiebaude> animus123, i heard a few yrs back that it was hard to get a driver for that card, i seen that somewhere back then
[15:27] <ccowan> Looks like App.js fits the bill
[15:27] <animus123> thiebaude:yes!!! very hopeless card that is!!
[15:28] <thiebaude> animus123, thats the only problem is when you log out?
[15:29] <animus123> thiebaude:did you ever use windows?
[15:29] <thiebaude> animus123, for a long time, i still dual boot with win 7
[15:29] <thiebaude> since dos,lol
[15:30] <animus123> thiebaude:i left windows,nearly 3 month before1
[15:31] <animus123> thiebaude:ubuntu is best in everything??
[15:31] <thiebaude> animus123, i agree
[15:31] <animus123> thiebaude:which version of ubuntu you are using?
[15:31] <thiebaude> 12.04
[15:32] <animus123> thiebaude:wow!! i too!!
[15:32] <animus123> thiebaude:unity interface is awesome!!
[15:33] <thiebaude> actually i use unity
[15:35] <animus123> thiebaude:would please tell me which graphic card driver your are using?
[15:35] <thiebaude> animus123, you want to go to #ubuntu-offtopic so we can talk?
[15:35] <thiebaude> animus123, on the desktop i use nvidia, on the laptop i use amd
[15:36] <Dr_Willis> erik__:  sounds like you got some deeper issues going on.  ive messed with Openshot a lot and never crashed.
[15:36] <Dr_Willis> bbl.
[15:36] <animus123> thiebaude:okkk
[15:36] <ken__> quick question if I may, the other day I had a problem with the screen blinking out suddenly and not coming back up, kept doing this except in windows, when I was able to boot into ubuntu I qucikly check fglrx info and it gave me command not found, I checked extra drivers and none were activated so I activated one of them and got catalyst, now there is staying power for the monitor, however when I checked fglrxinfo it gave me a screen:0 and dis
[15:36] <ken__> play: 0 what does that mean.
[15:37] <erik__> Dr_Willis, how would that be possible on 4 different machines?
[15:37] <ken__> and why did it affect everything else like live cds and text screens etc
[15:37] <ken__> except windows
[15:38] <root_939> hi
[15:38] <erik__> Dr_Willis: did you also use openshot on 12.04, because on 11.10 i had no problems
[15:40] <roasted> What exactly does "initramfs" mean? I'm working on an LTSP server and when the clients boot, they grab an IP and boot fine via PXE, but then they end up @ initramfs...
[15:41] <Azerus>  Hey, I have a 3TB drive that I am trying to create a partition using GPT on Ubuntu 8.04, can anyone assist me? It's not letting me create the partition with the remaining free space, it always leaves 2TB unallocated.
[15:41] <islandmonkey> roasted: I believe it is used by the kernel to start up init (the mother of all processes).
[15:41] <roasted> islandmonkey: hmm, I wonder what on earth is happening then.
[15:41] <MonkeyDust> roasted  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Initramfs
[15:41] <guiltyundertaker> Are there any software related limitations to Lubuntu as compared to Ubuntu?:)
[15:41] <gitesh> Can I have 3 OS on a system? How do I make free space from ubuntu-server 12.04?
[15:41] <roasted> MonkeyDust: whoa, first line - specifies 2.6 kernel series. What about 3.X kernel series?
[15:41] <MonkeyDust> guiltyundertaker  no, lubuntu is ubuntu with a different jacket
[15:42] <guiltyundertaker> Thanks MonkeyDust!
[15:42] <ken__> has anyone checked out zorin os
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> roasted  i guess you should read: "as of the 2.6 series"
[15:42] <ken__> its an Ubuntu derivative from Ireland
[15:42] <roasted> MonkeyDust: oh :/
[15:43] <islandmonkey> ken__: Yes I have. It's okayish.
[15:43] <roasted> MonkeyDust: just found out NBD was not running. I think NBD is related to LTSP functioning...
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> ken__  there's the channel #zorinos
[15:43] <DJones> ken__: I think Zorin OS has its own IRC channel
[15:43] <ken__> yes I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 Unity
[15:43] <ken__> I just heard of zorin os
[15:44] <ken__> anyway even though I activated fglrx the gui says it is unactived still maybe a bug, and fglrxinfo gives me screen 0 and display 0 is that normal
[15:45] <roasted> MonkeyDust: that was it. bingo. NBD wasnt running.
[15:51] <roasted> Question - I upgraded to 12.04 from 10.04, and the login screen is flickering like a disco ball. Anybody else ever see that?
[15:58] <islandmonkey> !nomodeset | roasted
[15:58] <jrgp> is tehre a default root/ubuntu user password on the precise livecd? i installed ssh but like a tard i forgot to set the root password and i want to ssh into it and i dont have physical access to the machine right now
[15:59] <killer> on running cod i get (under wine) "fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x21cf670,0x00000000), stub!"
[16:03] <glitsj16> jrgp: livecd uses 'ubuntu' as username with a blank password i believe
[16:05] <exutux> hey guys do you know why gwibber doesn't show private message that i receive on facebboK?
[16:06] <gitesh> Hi
[16:06] <gitesh> Is there any way not to start network configuration automatically while booting up?
[16:07] <gitesh> I am with ubuntu server 12.04 LTS
[16:08] <Moogs> hey ahas anyone solved the spideroak challenge today? https://sotss.spideroak.com/ .. i was needing help
[16:09] <jragon> Flash videos start playing at 10x speed, then arround 2 minutes in they slow back down to normal. I'm using chrome.
[16:15] <killer> hi...how do i enable s3tc in driconf?
[16:19] <leoleon> i installed ubuntu on virtualbox but i cant connect on internet, what do i need to do?
[16:20] <leoleon> i installed ubuntu on virtualbox but i cant connect on internet, what do i need to do?
[16:20] <leoleon> help me
[16:21] <auronandace> leoleon: virtualbox should take care of it automatically
[16:21] <auronandace> leoleon: you shouldn't need to take care of anything
[16:21] <leoleon> yes, but how can i use internet?
[16:22] <LoT> .
[16:22] <nik> hello
[16:22] <jragon> Flash videos start playing at 10x speed, then arround 2 minutes in they slow back down to normal. I'm using chrome, on firefox it works fine
[16:22] <auronandace> leoleon: what do you mean? just open a browser
[16:23] <kyle__> Does anyone know what the rational was for moving from vinarge to remmina in 12.04?
[16:24] <leoleon> yes, i did it but it´s loading and never connect to any website
[16:24] <auronandace> leoleon: does the host os have access to the internet?
[16:25] <leoleon> yes, I am connecting with my anfitrion machine
[16:25] <OerHeks> kyle__, much better software > http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/remmina-to-be-ubuntus-new-remote-desktop-app
[16:25] <leoleon> auronandace: yes, I am connecting with my anfitrion machine
[16:26] <auronandace> leoleon: i have no idea what anfitrion is
[16:26] <kyle__> OerHeks: Really?  Because it seems piss poor at figuring out how to scale and how to build the window so it's actually, you know, ON the screen, instead of half off of it.
[16:27] <leoleon> auronandace: it´s the machine where I installed virtualBox
[16:27] <kyle__> OerHeks: vinarge had a few ugly regressions awhile ago that gave it slow screen refreshes, but I thought those were fixed.
[16:27] <OerHeks> kyle__, Vinagre poor scaling performance was the most common issue.
[16:27] <MCl0vin> can someone please help me , i keep getting crash everytime i try to do something
[16:28] <ubuntuhelp_> hello, i am having problems. i had recently installed ubuntu 12.04 on my windows 7 system via livecd, however now i cannot boot up into it, says grub disk boot error with uuid.
[16:28] <codingman> MCl0vin: probably a reinstall is necessary
[16:28] <kyle__> OerHeks: I recall that.  Maybe it's just the interface layout needs (massive) fixing on this one.  But the fact that there's no checkbox to scale by default, and it requires me to manually scale the remote screen to make it fit right is aggravating.
[16:28] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: define something
[16:29] <ubuntuhelp_> i tried boot repair and it gives me the same issue and now windows will not load as well
[16:29] <MCl0vin> codingman, done that 3 times already
[16:29] <obakfahad> :)
[16:29] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, as my laptop boots
[16:29] <leoleon> auronandace:I installed virtualBox on  Windows 7 and the internet works but ubuntu doesn´t work because morzilla cant open any website
[16:29] <codingman> MCl0vin: same disk?
[16:30] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: you could be a little more descriptive
[16:30] <MCl0vin> codingman, yes, but i didn't had this issue with 10.04
[16:30] <ThinkT510> !nomodeset | MCl0vin
[16:30] <ubuntuhelp_> Can someone please help me?
[16:31] <LoT> !HELP | ubuntuhelp_
[16:31] <ubuntuhelp_> sorry.
[16:31] <indigoferal> ubuntuhelp_,  someone may not be here
[16:32] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, sorry , yes every time i start my pavilion dv7 hp laptop , and i am running 12.04 . i get the crash report detected and every time its for a different thing
[16:32] <bgamari> Is anyone from Canonical's Certification services in the house?
[16:33] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, " sorry, ubuntu 12.04 has experienced an internal error"
[16:33] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: a different thing each time?
[16:33] <leoleon> auronandace:I installed virtualBox on  Windows 7 and the internet works but ubuntu doesn´t work because morzilla cant open any website
[16:34] <leoleon> I installed virtualBox on  Windows 7 and the internet works but ubuntu doesn´t work because morzilla cant open any website
[16:34] <auronandace> leoleon: i've never had a problem in virtualbox, what network card are you using?
[16:34] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, right now as i am "trying' to explain to you my issue , i got it " /usr/lib/telepathy"
[16:35] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, i can't recall every incidence :) sorry
[16:35] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: hmm, how are you installing ubuntu?
[16:35] <killer> how 2 enable s3tc in intel graphics
[16:36] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, DVD/usb , and i tried 3 times , different media
[16:36] <MCl0vin> yes every time i check the md5
[16:37] <MCl0vin> now i go the application Compiz has closed unexpectedly
[16:37] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: ah, read my mind :)
[16:38] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: so you actually can boot?
[16:38] <whoever> hi all i am trying to hide the keyboard icon since i have created shortcut keys can someone assist ?
[16:38] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, i am chatting with you from the laptop
[16:39] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: ok, what have you installed? any ppas?
[16:39] <leoleon> auronandace: where can i see that
[16:39] <whoever>  i have trid gcon.editor>gnome setting"> keyboard disable
[16:39] <whoever> and no luck
[16:39] <auronandace> leoleon: in the vm settings
[16:40] <alice> \server irc.rizon.net
[16:40] <auronandace> leoleon: the default should work fine though
[16:41] <indigoferal> whoever, where is your keyboard icon
[16:41] <whoever> indigoferal: taskbar by the clock
[16:42] <indigoferal> whoever, if its on the tool bar , just rightl click on it and say quit
[16:42] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, http://pastebin.com/bZSMEThT
[16:42] <Kamran> hi there
[16:42] <indigoferal> i mean remove
[16:42] <roasted> I'm running dual NICs on my server - eth0 and eth1 - I'm finding eth0 is being a brat. The network configs are IDENTICAL (except, of course, different IP) but eth0 is non-pingable and non-SSHable while eth1 is fine. If I do sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart, it comes back with failed to bring up eth0 - yet ifconfig still shows eth0 existent....
[16:43] <indigoferal> what DE are you using - most have a way of enabling panel options / disabling of apps inside the panel
[16:43] <leoleon> ubuntu shows me a message that says: wired network disconnected
[16:43] <kyle__> roasted: existant and working are different animals.  How did you configure them?
[16:43] <roasted> kyle__: through /etc/network/interfaces.network manager is disabled.
[16:43] <whoever> indigoferal: i tried that and there isn't a quit option just my layouts, show keymap, and show keyboard options
[16:44] <indigoferal> yes, am seeing that - just a sec will tell you how
[16:44] <leoleon> auronandace:ubuntu shows me a message that says: wired network disconnected
[16:44] <kyle__> roasted: Good.  Network manager is a peice of s***.  pastebin your interfaces
[16:44] <whoever> indigoferal: and there is not an option to not show the icon under options
[16:44] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: so any ppas?
[16:45] <whoever> indigoferal: it is 12.04 if that matters for any reason
[16:45] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, not familiar with what ppas
[16:45] <MCl0vin> sorry
[16:45] <MCl0vin> !ppas
[16:45] <roasted> kyle__: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1114098/
[16:45] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: did you only install from the repos?
[16:45] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, yes sir
[16:45] <ubuntuhelp_> Hello, I am having problems booting Ubuntu 12.04 after installing LiveCD, It would boot straight into windows 7. After running LiveCD in Trial mode I ran Boot-Repair I am now running issues will not start up Windows 7 and gives me error unknown file system rescue grub, does anyone know how to fix???
[16:46] <roasted> kyle__: this server is an LTSP server. I just upgraded it to 12.04. LTSP works fine. The LTSP clients on the 17 network are fine, 18 network are fine. The problem is, 17 doesn't get any external connection for some reason. If I ifconfig eth1 down (taking 18 offline) the 17 network gets 0 outbound access.
[16:46] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: so you haven't added any software from outside the repos?
[16:46] <roasted> kyle__: it's as if the 17 network relies on 18.1 for its gateway, even though the 17 network has its own gateway to work from....
[16:46] <indigoferal> no which Desktop environment - Cinnamon, mate, kde xfce etx, yes it matters because each have a diffeent way of managing the panel
[16:46] <kyle__> roasted: Does the 18 interface need a gateway?
[16:47] <kyle__> roasted: I think it's trying to give you two default gateways.  Try commenting out one of them, and restart the networking.
[16:47] <roasted> kyle__: 17.2 is in its own 48 port switch. 18.2 is in its own 48 port switch. each switch is 17.1 and 18.1 respectively.
[16:47] <indigoferal> Go to cinnamon settings there you will find the option to turn keyboard off
[16:47] <roasted> kyle__: the switches are segregated so the traffic between the two labs (aka the two switches) doesn't cross... mostly for balance.
[16:47]  * kyle__ nods
[16:47] <indigoferal> Cinnamon settings - applets
[16:48] <roasted> kyle__: so you believe despite two  nics and despite two switches... 1 gw?
[16:48] <kyle__> roasted: I had two nics on my LTSP server, but only one of them was doing ltsp.  Sadly I wiped it the other day.  Trying to find the interfaces file
[16:48] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, i don't really think so, but how can i make sure
[16:48] <ThinkT510> indigoferal: cinnamon and mate are not supported on ubuntu
[16:48] <whoever> indigoferal: gnome unity
[16:48] <kyle__> roasted: Yes.  Remember the gateway is only necessary for traffic outside of your local subnet (at least with the netmasks you provided)
[16:48] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: checking your sources list
[16:48] <indigoferal> oops ?
[16:49] <roasted> kyle__: I commented out 18.1 Gw in the interfaces file... pinging 17.2 and 18.2... both failing...
[16:49] <kyle__> O_o
[16:49] <roasted> kyle__: and yes I restarted the network service.
[16:49] <kyle__> both failing now?
[16:49] <roasted> 17 was failing originally all along
[16:49] <roasted> I took 18.1 out, which 17 was relying on
[16:49] <roasted> let me reverse it... disable 17, open 18. I bet it works.
[16:49] <kyle__> roasted: Are you doing ping <ip addr> or ping -I eth0 <ip addr>
[16:50] <roasted> kyle__: I'm pinging from my laptop via two terminal windows.
[16:50] <whoever> indigoferal: talkin to me ? 'oops'
[16:50] <kyle__> roasted: Ah ok.
[16:50] <roasted> kyle__: commented 17.1 gateway. 17 still does not work. 18 now works.
[16:50] <roasted> kyle__: 17 never worked though...
[16:50] <indigoferal> yes, solution given but for the wrong DE
[16:50] <roasted> kyle__: whether or not the 17 gateway is commented.... still never worked. moot action it seems.
[16:51] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: can you pastebin your: /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:51] <cmake> how much does it cost to become posix compliant certified.
[16:51] <kyle__> fsck.  I didn't back up /etc/network before I whiped it.
[16:51] <cmake> for a command or an os
[16:51] <kyle__> roasted: What happens if you manually config the interfaces?
[16:51] <roasted> kyle__: I wonder if these switches are configured properly to work in the way I want them to.
[16:51] <roasted> kyle__: er... am I not manually configuring them?
[16:51] <bgamari> Is anyone from Canonical's Certification services in the house? (sorry for the repeat, internet died)
[16:52] <kyle__> roasted: Not really.  Try configuring them with ifconfig or ip from the command line :)
[16:52] <OerHeks> cmake, nothing, this is ubuntu support only.
[16:52] <kyle__> Back like real men did before my beard turned white. ;)
[16:52] <roasted> kyle__: not entirely sure I follow. I was just doing sudo nano to the interfaces file.... *shrug*
[16:52] <roasted> kyle__: are you talking the switches, though
[16:53] <kyle__> roasted: its reading your config file and configuring the network for you.  I mean really do it yourself
[16:53] <kyle__> roasted: ifconfig eth0 10.52.17.2
[16:53] <roasted> kyle__: gotcha
[16:54] <csilk> Using 12.04 on a Samsung laptop. Changing the brightness makes the scree flicker constantly and locks UI up. I tried to report the bug via ubuntu-bug but it tells me that I need to seek support first.
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> bgamari  on ubuntu.com, below, you find how to  contact canonical
[16:54] <csilk> *screen
[16:54] <roasted> kyle__: k, ran that as root. still unable to ping (tho I didnt reboot net service). I assume that's needed?
[16:54] <Hfuy> Hello.
[16:54] <roasted> kyle__: or do I need to run through the whole sha-bang of netmask, etc?
[16:54] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, http://pastebin.com/UKuNngNT
[16:54] <Hfuy> I am now coming from you live and direct from a Ubuntu flash key via the freenode web chat because there is no IRC client.
[16:54]  * Hfuy taps the mic
[16:55] <trijntje> is there a way to view the grub kernel parameters the currently running system was started with?
[16:55] <Hfuy> Is this thing on?
[16:55] <kyle__> roasted: No you dont' need to restart networking... yes but in the netmask adn such.  Just to make sure
[16:55] <roasted> kyle__: also, I AM running dhcp on this box... not sure if the dhcp config matters in this situation. I would GUESS I'd only be working with the interfaces file anyway.
[16:55] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: yeah, thats fairly standard
[16:55] <roasted> kyle__: sudo ifconfig eth0 netmask 255.255.255.0                ???
[16:55] <kyle__> roasted: dhcp is pretty resilliant.  It shouldn't care
[16:55] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: are you using xfce or unity?
[16:56] <kyle__> roasted: Yup.
[16:56] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, xfce
[16:56] <roasted> still no dice
[16:56] <MCl0vin> i don't like unity
[16:56] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: good choice, my favourite
[16:56] <kyle__> roasted: What does netstat -rn tell you?
[16:56] <roasted> kyle__: I'm trying to troubleshoot/configure this tot he point where I can definitively say the switch is not configured properly.
[16:56] <roasted> kyle__: I don't have access to the switch... so I can't fix that part, but if I'm going to blame it on that, I want to be positive.
[16:57] <roasted> kyle__: sec.
[16:57] <glitsj16> csilk: are you by any chance running packages from the 'Linux On My Samsung' PPA? If not, might be worth a look, works 100% here for some time now
[16:57] <kyle__> roasted: OK.
[16:57] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: you using compiz with xfce?
[16:57] <Hfuy> Why would it know what the MAC address of the ethernet hardware was, but not be able to detect a connected cable?
[16:57] <roasted> kyle__: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1114126/
[16:57] <csilk> glebihan, used to, this is a clean install now. Those packages never worked for me anyway.
[16:57] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, i don't even know what compiz is :)
[16:57] <Hfuy> Oh. Er, oops.
[16:57] <MCl0vin> !compiz
[16:57]  * Hfuy plugs the cable in, looking a bit sheepish
[16:58] <csilk> glitsj16,  used to, this is a clean install now. Those packages never worked for me anyway.
[16:58] <roasted> kyle__: I'm not seeing 17.1 there... should I be?
[16:58] <Hfuy> Well, this is amazing. Linux, on my laptop, with no prep, and everything seems to work!
[16:58] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, also i have a blue film on top of my video s
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> !yay| Hfuy
[16:58] <kyle__> roasted: If that was the interface you left a default route on, yes.
[16:58] <Hfuy> Can I get skype
[16:58] <MCl0vin> i.e. youtube
[16:58] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: what is the output of: ps aux | grep comp
[16:58] <roasted> kyle__: soo... are you suggesting I SHOULD be seeing 17.1 AND 18.1 there?
[16:59] <Hfuy> MonkeyDust: don't get too excited. I still don't have an IRC client, and I don't think the bluetooth is working.
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> Hfuy  yes, but it's third party, you have to activate the partner repo
[16:59] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: the blue tint is a flash issue, change the settings for hardware accelleration
[16:59] <Hfuy> I also had to go through an irritating, pointless bit of shenanigans to get the wireless ethernet to work, too, as it seems Broadcom provide a binary driver.
[16:59] <kyle__> roasted: Only one should be the default gateway.  If there is more than one, one should be default,a nd the other should be restricted to the other network.
[16:59] <Hfuy> I don't care about this, but it made me go through shenanigans anyway.
[16:59] <csilk> glitsj16,  I can't find the ppa to add?
[16:59] <glitsj16> csilk: too bad, perhaps it's worth another shot as there have been some changes and more machines supported for precise
[16:59] <Hfuy> I don't suppose "apt-get install skype" is going to get me very far, eh?
[16:59] <kyle__> roasted: That said, if they're up at all, even without a gateway _any_ gateway, things on the 18 and 17 networks should be able to ping those interfaces
[17:00] <roasted> kyle__: maybe instead of using 10.52.18.1 and 10.52.17.1, I should have the REAL default network gateway? which I think is 10.52.0.1..... or is that incorrect?
[17:00] <ThinkT510> !skype | Hfuy
[17:00] <csilk> glitsj16, what's the ppa address I should add ?
[17:00] <kyle__> Hfuy: Probably not.  YOu need to download it from their site.
[17:00] <kyle__> Thanks ubottu
[17:00] <kyle__> !cookie
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> Hfuy  it will, after you activate its source, the partner repo
[17:00] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, http://pastebin.com/hV4GkRF3
[17:00] <glitsj16> csilk: https://launchpad.net/~voria/+archive/ppa .. that page has a link to the user forum on it
[17:00] <roasted> kyle__: yeah 10.52.0.1 is the entire network gateway....
[17:00] <kyle__> roasted: Yes.  The real one would be useful.  Then iut should also be the only one.
[17:00] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: yeah, looks like compiz is running
[17:00] <Hfuy> I assume there is an IRC client of some kind for linux. No wait, it's IRC, there'll be two hundred.
[17:01] <roasted> kyle__: should that gateway be listed twice, under each interface in the interfaces file?
[17:01] <kyle__> roasted: No, just once.
[17:01] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: you using any fancy settings? desktop cube or anything?
[17:01] <MonkeyDust> Hfuy  xChat and irssi are the most popular IRC clients
[17:01] <roasted> kyle__: doesn't matter which interface?
[17:01] <Hfuy> MonkeyDust: apt-get install xchat gets me a "not found"
[17:01] <MonkeyDust> Hfuy  try xchat-gnome
[17:01] <xyzodiac> Install irssi ;)
[17:01] <kyle__> roasted: Shouldn't.  It's the default, should be used for all.
[17:01] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, nope sir
[17:01] <roasted> kyle__: what about the dhcpd.conf which has entries for 18.1 and 17.1?
[17:01] <kyle__> irssi, inside a screen.  That's the way to do it.
[17:01] <Hfuy> irssi works.
[17:02] <MonkeyDust> great
[17:02] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: hmm, how about: ps aux | grep xfwm
[17:02] <Hfuy> Is this thing using a GL compositor for the desktop, by default? It tears.
[17:02] <kyle__> roasted: dhcp should be serving the real gateway as well.
[17:02] <xyzodiac> Kyle__: Without a doubt!
[17:02] <Hfuy> Whereas Aero didn't.
[17:02] <roasted> kyle__: k, let me give this a shot....
[17:02] <roasted> kyle__: appreciate your time
[17:02] <csilk> glitsj16, I'm still not clean what the ppa address is that I need to add. Is it the launchpad url?
[17:03] <kyle__> roasted: No problem.  Also, you know there's an ltsp channel on freenode where some of it's developers hang out, and will help you?
[17:03] <kyle__> roasted: I never would have gotten my funky fat-client setup working without them.
[17:03] <rkube> i am facing complete freeze in 12.04 LTS not even sysrq keys work.Any bugs already in ?
[17:04] <roasted> kyle__: yeah, they're a fantastic group of guys - but last I was in there there wasn't much traffic, so since I began to think this was a network/ubuntu issue, I came here
[17:04] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, nope , only return one line which is my grep command
[17:04] <bgamari> MonkeyDust: Sadly there is no email address
[17:04]  * MCl0vin need to go drop the cosby boys at the pool and come back!!
[17:04] <kyle__> roasted: Could be a summer issue, I think most of them work for school districts
[17:04] <roasted> kyle__: also, the entries in the dhcpd.conf file are option-routers- 10.52.17.1, 10.52.18.1, etc... do I really need to put the external gateway there?
[17:04] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: in that case you are definitely running compiz of xfce
[17:04] <roasted> kyle__: as do I. ;)
[17:04] <usr13> Hfuy: xchat *should* be in the repositories.
[17:04] <Hfuy> Holy hell, even sound works!
[17:04] <glitsj16> csilk: no, you need the info posted on that page, 'sudo add-apt-repository ppa:voria/ppa' .. it'll ask for confirmation (as a sidenote for ppa's knowledge of the ppa-purge command is always nice in case you want to easily downgrade later on or remove those)
[17:04] <Hfuy> Sound working OOB on Linux! That thud you just heard was my jaw hitting the floor!
[17:04] <roasted> kyle__: I guess I'm second guessing it because it says option-routers, and not "GATEWAY"
[17:04] <kyle__> roasted: Yes!  You need the real gateway there isntead of those.  you're not doing natting or routing through your ltsp box right?
[17:05] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: i find compiz rather buggy myself with xfce so that may be the cause of the crashes, difficult to say really
[17:05] <bgamari> MonkeyDust: The contact information is actually rather aenemic
[17:05] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, show me how i can turn it off please
[17:05] <roasted> kyle__: the two 48 port switches are plugged right into the core fiber switch. So if you're on an LTSP box, you hit the 48 port switch, then the gateway to hit youtube or whatever. Period.
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> bgamari  they probably don't want to be contacted directed, which is perfectly understandable, or everybody would write emails to ask where 'any key' is
[17:05] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: you could try using xfwm (xfce's default) instead
[17:05] <roasted> kyle__: we did that to minimize the amount of hops LTSP users would be doing since thin clients would likely benefit from less hops/cross traffic of other labs, laptops, etc.
[17:05] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: sure: xfwm4 --replace
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> directly*
[17:06] <Hfuy> Clock's an hour out.
[17:06] <rkube> i am facing complete freeze in 12.04 LTS not even sysrq keys work.Any known bugs?
[17:06] <kyle__> roasted: Yea.  Use the gateway where is says router.  That's what you want.
[17:06] <usr13> Hfuy: Did you select wrong time zone?
[17:06] <ThinkT510> Hfuy: when was the last time you used linux? the 90s?
[17:06] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, is that it
[17:06] <bgamari> MonkeyDust: Fine, but requiring anyone wanting to get in touch with a department other than sales to be a "partner" is a bit insane
[17:06] <h00k> rkube: I'd start with a memory test
[17:07] <Hfuy> I didn't select a time zone, so it defaulted to UTC. Since I'm about 40 miles from Greenwich it would have been right, except we're in summertime now.
[17:07] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: should be, did your window decorations change?
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> Hfuy  kindly explore this new system, but don't tell us everything you do or don't find, we all had to learn it
[17:07] <usr13> Hfuy: tzselect
[17:07] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, yes
[17:07] <Hfuy> MonkeyDust: don't get too excited, I haven't tried closing the lid yet!
[17:07] <rkube> h00k:its all clean
[17:07] <roasted> kyle__: what is the correct command in 12.04? sudo service networking restart   ?
[17:08] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: there you go, your now using xfce's window manager
[17:08] <csilk> thanks glitsj16 , trying now
[17:08] <Hfuy> OK, seems likely bluetooth isn't going to work.
[17:08] <kyle__> roasted: I think so.  going the /etc/init.d/networking route makes it wine more than with other init files.
[17:08] <Hfuy> But in general: 8/10 for good effort to the penguin!
[17:08] <bgamari> MonkeyDust: The options are PR (which is exclusively for press inquiries, evidently), sales (which brings one to a broken form), or OEM services (which requires one to be a partner)
[17:08] <roasted> kyle__: gah, can't ping either interface now from my laptop
[17:09] <kyle__> roasted: But you could when you manually ran ifconfig?
[17:09] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, well, will give it a try for a day or two , i have added you to my "fav list" heheh
[17:09] <roasted> kyle__: is it possible that's how it's SUPPOSED to be? they're on 10.52.17.X and 10.52.18.X with 255.255.255.0 subnet. The main network that I'm on with my laptop is 10.52.X.X with 255.255.248.0 subnet
[17:09] <glitsj16> csilk: crossing fingers, no need to thank me, the dev did all the work
[17:09] <Hfuy> Why would it say "bluetooth is disabled" when this is not the case?
[17:09] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: glad to help :)
[17:09] <kyle__> roasted: I suppose, but I've always been able to ping the system.  Never tried it with 12.04 though.
[17:10] <kyle__> ltsp with 12.04 that is
[17:10] <roasted> kyle__: I wonder if I open the subnet to match 255.255.248.0 if it would hcange things
[17:10] <somnath> on my system can show some error
[17:10] <kyle__> Coudln't hurt.
[17:11] <Hfuy> It claimed to install irssi, but it doesn't seem to have put an icon for it anywhere.
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> bgamari  maybe here http://www.canonical.com/about-canonical/contact
[17:11] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, you are not done yet :) i have few of them
[17:11] <ThinkT510> Hfuy: irssi is a terminal client
[17:11] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, doing an update and i got 'Replace your changes in '/etc/gnome/defaults.list' with a later version of the configuration file?"
[17:11] <Hfuy> ThinkT510: Ohh, I see. welcome back to the 1980s!
[17:11] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, i also have two issue that are bugging me
[17:12] <bgamari> MonkeyDust: This is the page I was referring to sadly
[17:12] <Hfuy_irssi> Wow, it's like something out of the original Tron!
[17:12] <xyzodiac> Hfuy_irssi: "Welcome back to the 1980's" lol'd
[17:12] <usr13> roasted: That will only give you 31 IPs in your subnet.
[17:12] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, i am using wireless to my wifi ... i LED in my laptop keeps blinking bule/Amber and its bugging me
[17:12] <roasted> kyle__: this networking restart command is bipolar as can be. I just set each subnet in the interfaces file to 255.255.248.0, but only ONE of them caught on when I rebooted the service *facepalm*
[17:13] <roasted> kyle__: actually, correction - NONE changed with sudo service networking restart. If I did /etc/init.d/networking restart, ONE changed, the other interface did not.
[17:13] <xyzodiac> Terminal IRC clients are nice though, I can acess mine anywhere just with ssh.
[17:13] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: wifi works though?
[17:13] <Hfuy> I found something else that doesn't work - the keyboard screen brightness controls. They sorta-kinda work. The brightness flickers up and down rapidly. You can sort of control it, but it's buggy.
[17:13] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, yes
[17:13] <roasted> usr13: I just meant the IP's for the interfaces. The actual DHCP scope that Ubuntu is still running is left at 255.255.255.0, giving me... eh... .5-.254 worth of a range that I have it set upt o be right now
[17:13] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, for the blue tint should i follow this http://askubuntu.com/questions/117127/flash-video-appears-blue/131040#131040
[17:14] <kyle__> roasted: That's just strange.  I'm wondering if it's something obvious about the interfaces file we're both missing.
[17:14] <Hfuy> Woooah! It mounted the NTFS boot disk!#
[17:14] <Hfuy> Is that by design?!
[17:14] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: i stay away from ppas
[17:14] <usr13> roasted: I misread anyway, you said 255.255.248.0  I don't know how many that is...
[17:14] <genii-around> usr13: A lot
[17:14] <usr13> genii-around: Yea...
[17:15] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: just change the hardware acelleration settings in flash settings
[17:15] <kyle__> OK.  Strange.  the dhclient.conf file requests the hostname, domain name, and ntp server (among other things), but doesn't seem to be using any of it.
[17:15] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, not following you dude
[17:15] <lotuspsychje> howto fix that corrupt mouse pointer problem at first time boot?
[17:15] <roasted> kyle__: I don't know man. This is beyond frustrating... even more frustrating that I can't get access to the switches, so who knows if its the switch thats bad or what
[17:15] <ThinkT510> Hfuy: ntfs has had read/write support for years now
[17:15] <usr13> I guess it would be 7,874
[17:15] <roasted> kyle__: just rebooted the server - hanging @ waiting for network.......
[17:15] <Hfuy> ThinkT510: Yes, but this is slightly scary. It seems to be able to read all of the user areas on the laptop's boot disk, which is supposed to be protected.
[17:16] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: launch a flash vid, right click the vid and pick settings
[17:16] <kyle__> meep
[17:16] <kyle__> roasted: Ugh.
[17:16] <MonkeyDust> bgamari  below on that page, you find the address in London, you could write a letter
[17:16] <ThinkT510> Hfuy: what?
[17:16] <MonkeyDust> bgamari  or send a fax
[17:16] <pheonixash83> Hfuy: is taht a win7 or xp ntfs disk?
[17:16] <trijntje> is there a way to view the grub kernel parameters the currently running system was started with?
[17:16] <pheonixash83> that*
[17:16] <Hfuy> Win7
[17:17] <usr13> Hfuy: Win7, yea, slightly scary
[17:17] <Hfuy> It shouldn't, really, be offering me access to (what would be) C:\Users\Whoever
[17:17] <pheonixash83> by defualt the data is not encripted
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> i got a corrupt mouse pointer at boot, howto fix this? after a second reboot, its gone
[17:17] <usr13> Hfuy: WHy wouldn't it?
[17:17] <pheonixash83> just protected from system users
[17:17] <Hfuy> Also, where has it mounted this device? It isn't in /mnt
[17:17] <usr13> Hfuy: if you have the partition mounted, it's mounted.  That's it.
[17:18] <ThinkT510> Hfuy: unless windows encrypted it then anyone can access it from live media
[17:18] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, disable or enable acceleration
[17:18] <genii-around> usr13: 2046 , it works out to same as /21
[17:18] <usr13> Hfuy: mount
[17:18] <roasted> kyle__: we finally came online. If I try to ping externally, "no network available"
[17:18] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: disable i think
[17:18] <Hfuy> usr13: no such.
[17:18] <usr13> Hfuy: If you issue command "mount"  it will tell you where evertying is mounted.
[17:18] <roasted> kyle__: online meaning, it booted and Im logged in. bad terminology there.
[17:18] <Hfuy> Oh, OK.
[17:18] <usr13> genii-around: Oh, ok.  Thanks info
[17:19] <ThinkT510> Hfuy: the default mount directories are in /media/
[17:19] <Hfuy> I have /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sda2 which are presumably the USB key and the SSD, but I don't know which is which
[17:19] <kyle__> roasted: And is there one route now, and it's the default gateway?
[17:19] <usr13> Hfuy: df  will also tell you pretty much same
[17:19] <kyle__> Hfuy: fdisk -l should help a bit.  It will tell you the sizes
[17:19] <roasted> kyle__: I have the gateway 10.52.0.1 listed under the 17 network in the interfaces file, and that's it.
[17:19] <roasted> kyle__: but 17 failed before. I wonder if I drop 10.52.0.1 under 18, and remove it under 17, if it'll work
[17:19] <usr13> Hfuy: sudo fdisk -l
[17:20] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, that worked ...thank you a lot sir
[17:20] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: no worries
[17:20] <Hfuy> I just did df -h
[17:20] <Hfuy> I remember that from last time I did any serious linuxing, which was a few years back.
[17:20] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: if anyone says to install a ppa to fix a problem then be suspicous
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> anyone knows howto fix this kinda mouse pointer corruption? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/92473709/IMAG0011.jpg
[17:20] <Hfuy> (red hat 9. oh, the pain)
[17:20] <roasted> kyle__: I would think if the gateway under 18 works, but when it was under 17 it didnt work, that the switch config wasn't right
[17:20] <Hfuy> What's /dev/loop0
[17:20] <roasted> kyle__: would you agree?
[17:21] <pheonixash83> loopback device i believe
[17:21] <Hfuy> Oh, wait, of course - it won't have mounted the boot device as one device, it's linux, we'll have a temp area, a root area, etc.
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> !ati
[17:21] <Hfuy> ...right?
[17:22] <usr13> RH-9 was 2003, ran kernel 2.4.20-8
[17:22] <pheonixash83> Hfuy: what are you actually tring to do??
[17:22] <Hfuy> Fix bluetooth if I can
[17:22] <Hfuy> it's not the end of the world
[17:22] <pheonixash83> hfuy: bluetooth on windows or linux?
[17:22] <cmake> of course to convert man pages to text just man xxx > xxx.txt ; then do whatever program converts text to pdf , ps ,..etc groff :) simple
[17:22] <Hfuy> nix
[17:23] <usr13> Hfuy: What?  mounted boot device as ____?
[17:23] <Hfuy> usr13: well, Windows mounts the boot device as c: (invariably); I was wondering where my 4GB flash key was mounted. But it sort of isn't, this being linux.
[17:23] <islandmonkey> Why is my update manager coming up with a distro upgrade?
[17:23] <Hfuy> I wanted to find out how much space was left
[17:24] <usr13> Hfuy: It all depends on what mount points you set up in the /etc/fstab file.  (Unless it's a USB device that you prefer to mount and umount on the fly).
[17:24] <Hfuy> I didn't.
[17:24] <Hfuy> It's a flash key with the ubuntu install on it.
[17:24] <pheonixash83> hfuy: for a graphic display I swear by gparted
[17:24] <usr13> Hfuy: du
[17:24] <ThinkT510> Hfuy: df -h
[17:24] <Hfuy> tell me there's a GUI way to do it, puhleease.
[17:25] <ThinkT510> Hfuy: gparted
[17:25] <roasted> kyle__: watched it fully boot this time - after it hangs with waiting for network configuration, it eventually says, booting without full network configuration...
[17:25] <islandmonkey> 12.04.1 isn't out yet
[17:25] <Hfuy> It's mounted the laptop's internal SSD as two partitions, the main one and the manufacturer's system recovery partition, which is fine and expected.
[17:25] <usr13> *df* is what I ment...
[17:25] <Hfuy> But I don't seem to have a disk representing the boot device.
[17:25] <usr13> Hfuy: You mean /boot/
[17:26] <usr13> ?
[17:26] <ThinkT510> Hfuy: select the device from the dropdown list in the top right of gparted
[17:26] <Hfuy> I don't know. If I put files there will they appear on the flash key?
[17:26] <usr13> Hfuy: You can place it on a separate partition if you choose to.
[17:27] <Hfuy> it's just that I don't want to (perhaps) install linux on the main 128gb SSD and not have access to it
[17:27] <lotuspsychje> howto hide users at login screen?
[17:27] <Hfuy> that would suck.
[17:27] <islandmonkey> *assumes that the update manager thought updates were distro upgrade updates*
[17:27] <usr13> Hfuy: Yes, anything you put on a mount point goes on the disk it is mounted on. yes
[17:28] <yacin_> hiiiiii..can any one know how to increase ubuntu partition
[17:28] <ThinkT510> yacin_: use gparted from a livecd
[17:28] <Hfuy> the only 4GB device I see in df -h is /dev/sdb1
[17:28] <usr13> Hfuy: Wait, I don't think I'm understanding your questions?  Are you planning a Linux install?  ... or are you trying to customize an existing one?
[17:28] <Hfuy> It says it's mounted on /cdrom for some reason
[17:28] <islandmonkey> yacin_: Use gparted
[17:29] <ThinkT510> usr13: he has booted from a usb
[17:29] <usr13> Hfuy: What is mounted on /cdrom ?
[17:29] <Hfuy> usr13: /dev/sdb1
[17:29] <yacin_> gparted ???
[17:29] <yacin_> how to install it ??
[17:29] <usr13> ThinkT510: Oh, I see.  He is only contemplating the install... Ok.
[17:29] <Hfuy> Which is the only 4gb device on the system, and therefore must be the flash key.
[17:29] <Hfuy> Why on earth is it /cdrom
[17:29] <usr13> Hfuy: sdb1 is the first partition on the second drive
[17:29] <ThinkT510> yacin_: you use it from a livecd, no need to install it
[17:30] <Hfuy> Anyway, that's not important. Why would bluetooth not work?
[17:30] <usr13> Hfuy: sda1 is the first partition on the first drive
[17:30] <ThinkT510> Hfuy: maybe pastebining the output will help us help you: df -h
[17:30] <yacin_> yeah there it is ?
[17:30] <usr13> Hfuy: Maybe because it's dissabled?
[17:30] <Hfuy> it's OK, I think I have the disk situation under control.
[17:30] <usr13> Hfuy: (turned off)
[17:31] <Hfuy> Well, it reads as disabled, and it won't enable. And no, the "airplane mode" switch on the laptop is not on.
[17:31] <yacin_> i have windows 7 with xubuntu in my computer i can minimise windows partition
[17:31] <Hfuy> I can slide the little switch to cover "off", but it just flicks back.
[17:31] <Hfuy> And it says "bluetooth is disabled"
[17:31] <usr13> Hfuy: What do you need blue tooth for at this point?
[17:32] <Hfuy> Proving it works.
[17:32] <Hfuy> I use it to communicate via my cellphone.
[17:32] <usr13> Hfuy: I see.
[17:32] <kyle__> roasted: Was afk, what did I miss?  Did it work?
[17:32] <usr13> Hfuy: Well, I use wifi
[17:32] <ThinkT510> Hfuy: sudo service bluetooth restart
[17:32] <roasted> kyle__: no :(
[17:32] <kyle__> roasted: fsck.
[17:32] <Hfuy> ThinkT510: Done. stop/waiting, start/running, process 8387
[17:32] <usr13> ThinkT510: or sudo service bluetooth start
[17:33] <roasted> kyle__: if I ping 8.8.8.8, network is unreachable.
[17:33] <roasted> kyle__: I'm particularly disturbed by the errors I get when firing it up. "booting without full network configuration"
[17:33] <roasted> kyle__: I fund some bug reports referring to it being gdm or lightdm related. er, uh, what? a DE effecting the network?
[17:34] <sardonyx> http://media.photobucket.com/image/recent/Arch-newb/Screenshot-1-10.jpg   <--- at the very bottom of this screenshot, does anyone know what program that is?  It looks like an "enhanced" top or something
[17:34] <Hfuy> Holy expletive deleted, the battery monitoring works! I wasn't even aware linux knew about battery monitoring!
[17:34] <usr13> Hfuy: Why wouldn't it?
[17:34] <Hfuy> usr13: well, you know.
[17:34] <ThinkT510> Hfuy: where do you come from? the past?
[17:35] <kyle__> roasted: Yea, but you know ubuntu.  They like to break the strangest things to make anything else easy.
[17:35] <usr13> Hfuy: Yea, I do know  :):):):)
[17:35] <roasted> kyle__: gotta love it.
[17:35] <killer> i use bcm4312 wireless card and broadcom sta drivers ....and i m not able to connect ubuntu to adhoc created by my friend
[17:35] <kyle__> roasted: We'd all use debian instead, if they'd update to Firefox 3.0.
[17:35] <Hfuy> still no joy with bluetooth, although the command service bluetooth restart reported it was running. The control panel applet for it still says "off" and won't go on.
[17:35] <roasted> kyle__: lol.
[17:35] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, are you still around
[17:35] <roasted> kyle__: but, that might make it unstable!!1
[17:35] <usr13> killer: some of the broadcom chips are not fully supported.
[17:35] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: indeed
[17:36] <roasted> kyle__: http://www.totalcomputersusa.com/2011/10/ubuntu-11-10-booting-system-without-full-network-configuration/
[17:36] <usr13> Hfuy: Well, it might work after full install.
[17:36] <roasted> interesting...
[17:36] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, if you don't mind, i am having an issue with my sound
[17:36] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: what sort of issue?
[17:36] <Hfuy> dmesg | grep -i blue talks a lot about bluetooth
[17:36] <Hfuy> HCI device and connection manager initialised, etc
[17:37] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, when i plug my headset , i still hear from the laptop and the headset
[17:37] <kyle__> humid: Like usr13 said, after a full install.  An apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade will get you all the latest drivers and goodies, as well as any vendor specific stuff it sees you need.
[17:37] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, i want it to mute when i plug in my head set
[17:37] <usr13> kyle__: what version is he using?
[17:37] <Hfuy> usr13: that's a bit fail.
[17:37] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: hmm, thats odd, never happened to me
[17:38] <kyle__> usr13: No idea.
[17:38] <usr13> kyle__: apt-get dist-upgrade is deprecated
[17:38] <usr13> Hfuy: Please disreguard dist-upgrade
[17:38] <Hfuy> I try never to use apt anyway.
[17:38] <sw> is it possible to check if a domain name is registered via command line?
[17:38] <Hfuy> I've had it destroy far too many installs.
[17:38] <usr13> Hfuy: Why not?
[17:39] <usr13> Hfuy: I think you are confused
[17:39] <roasted> kyle__: post 9 seems to be popular - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/811441
[17:39] <kyle__> Errr.
[17:39] <Hfuy> I find it very rarely works, if it does work it half-does the job (not assigning mp3s to an mp3 player, etc) and WAY too often it breaks the whole OS.
[17:39] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, crash report detected
[17:39] <usr13> Hfuy: By all means, use apt
[17:39] <kyle__> roasted: I'm reading these with disbeleif.  How cound this get so wacky?
[17:39] <Hfuy> I've already tried a few things - "apt-get install xchat" and it just errors out.
[17:39] <roasted> kyle__: not sure :(
[17:39] <usr13> Hfuy: Sorry, but you have been mislead about apt
[17:39] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: great, which one this time
[17:39] <roasted> kyle__: maybe I should have just done a fresh install. gah.
[17:39] <MonkeyDust> Hfuy  that's because mp3 is not 'open'
[17:40] <genii-around> sw: If you do a: whois domain-name      and it tells you it's not registered to anyone, it's probably available
[17:40] <Hfuy> Couldn't care less.
[17:40] <genii-around> sw: You'll need the whois package installed, of course
[17:40] <usr13> Hfuy: You are on a live USB device, installing applications is for after the install.
[17:40] <Hfuy> anyway, is this BT issue likely to be fixable?
[17:40] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, '/usr/bin/totem' i was watch a movie and it crashed
[17:40] <kyle__> roasted: baslpheme!  A fresh install?  Your goal is to have one server that's seemlessly run at least 8 versions without a fresh isntall
[17:40] <roasted> kyle__: I hear you.
[17:41] <roasted> kyle__: some sources indicate the symlink script during the upgrade failed
[17:41] <usr13> Hfuy: What does BT mean?
[17:41] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: urgh, totem is sub-par in my opinion, i use vlc or mplayer
[17:41] <roasted> kyle__: hence post 9 in that link
[17:41] <Hfuy> Sorry - bluetooth
[17:41] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, i thought that was mplayer
[17:41] <Hfuy> I mean, this looks kinda worky: http://pastebin.com/t5aUeVVs
[17:41] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: no
[17:42] <usr13> Hfuy: You should do an install, see if it works then. Ok?
[17:42] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, i have vlc
[17:42] <kyle__> wow.
[17:42] <Hfuy> Well, there's a windows install on this thing I don't want to lose.
[17:42] <sw> genii-around: cheers. really looking for something that I can do 'whois domains.txt' and it'll print a simple one liner: '$domain is (not) registered'
[17:42] <kyle__> roasted: Did it work for you?  Did you try it?
[17:42] <sw> genii-around: any ideas?
[17:43] <usr13> Hfuy: Just resize the partition(s) to make room for the Ubuntu install.
[17:43] <usr13> Hfuy: The installer will do it for you.
[17:43] <Hfuy> Like I'm going to trust a linux installer with my windows install :)
[17:43] <usr13> Hfuy: sure, works fine.
[17:43] <MonkeyDust> never trust windows, you're right
[17:43] <usr13> millions have done it without issue...
[17:43] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, another crash' /usr/share/apport/apport-gtk
[17:43] <kyle__> Hfuy: Good thinking.  Wipe the drive, install ubuntu, install virtualbox, trust virtualbox with the windows install.  Much safer.
[17:43] <ThinkT510> Hfuy: if you're so worried use another disk
[17:44] <kyle__> Hfuy: I refer to that as, "a vm condom"
[17:44] <Hfuy> also: no skype under linux.
[17:44] <roasted> kyle__: trying now
[17:44] <usr13> Hfuy: But if you have critical files and are worried, do a backup of them first.
[17:44] <Hfuy> That's sort of a blocking issue.
[17:44] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: i have no idea what is causing all these crashes for you
[17:44] <usr13> Hfuy: Skype works fine
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> skype works here, too
[17:44] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: use a lot of flash?
[17:44] <MCl0vin> ThinkT510, thinking to switch to Windows
[17:44] <usr13> Hfuy: Blocking?
[17:45] <Cantide> download version 4 of skype from their website
[17:45] <Cantide> much better than 2.2 beta or whatever was in the repos >_<
[17:45] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: your choice
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> MCl0vin  windows is expensive, slow and dangerous
[17:45] <usr13> ... to be used sparingly
[17:45] <Hfuy> Cantide: the ubuntu.com site gives exactly the opposite advice.
[17:45] <MCl0vin> MonkeyDust, are all what i am having with 12.04 is not!!!
[17:45] <kyle__> MonkeyDust: Hence the vm condom for windows usage.
[17:46] <Hfuy> MonkeyDust: : at least your bluetooth works, though.
[17:46] <Cantide> Hfuy, why? I downloaded it and it works really well
[17:46] <usr13> kyle__: Yea, that's the way to run MS Windows, vm
[17:46]  * kyle__ shrugs.  I haven't had any undue hardships with 12.04.
[17:46] <ThinkT510> MCl0vin: i haven't had an issue with 12.04, you don't seem to have an odd setup so i don't know why you are having these crashes
[17:46] <usr13> kyle__: That way, you can fire it up whenever you want/need.  (whenever that is....??)
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> Hfuy  it does, out of the box
[17:47] <kyle__> usr13: I have one sad little usb tv capture card that only works in windows.  That's the only system that runs it physically.
[17:47] <roasted> kyle__: I'm getting errirs saying these are the sam efiles! when I move them.
[17:47] <roasted> fricken adljf;dslkja;lsdjf;laksjdfkl;ajskl;dfa
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> Hfuy  as does all the rest, only may old canon scanner is a pain
[17:47] <Hfuy> what does what out of the box
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> my*
[17:47] <kyle__> roasted: O.o
[17:47] <Hfuy> oh, that's another thing
[17:47] <usr13> Hfuy: Bluetooth works.
[17:47] <Hfuy> printing
[17:47] <Hfuy> haven't tried that
[17:47] <Hfuy> well it doesn't
[17:47] <Hfuy> I can ask my phone to scan again if you like, but it isn't there.
[17:47] <ThinkT510> Hfuy: please tell us you don't have a lexmark
[17:47] <killer> how do i check that my wireless card/ driver supports to connect to adhoc or not ( i want to connect to adhoc)
[17:47]  * Hfuy makes a face
[17:47] <usr13> Hfuy: Ok, I'm wrong. It doesnt' work.  You better go back to MS Windows.
[17:48] <MonkeyDust> Hfuy  overall, everything has always worked liked a charm (except that scanner)
[17:48] <Hfuy> God no. Canon iX6550
[17:48] <Hfuy> See, this is where I start getting exasperated with linux people.
[17:48] <Hfuy> Bluetooth is not working here.
[17:48] <Hfuy> Saying it works does not make it work.
[17:49] <Hfuy> Refusing to believe it does not make it not so.
[17:49] <ThinkT510> Hfuy: are you still on a live system?
[17:49] <usr13> Hfuy: ix6550 ? is that right?
[17:49] <MonkeyDust> Hfuy  use blueman
[17:49] <Hfuy> you mean booting from USB? Yes.
[17:49] <Hfuy> usr13: yes.
[17:49] <ThinkT510> MonkeyDust +1
[17:49] <usr13> Hfuy: Don't see that model
[17:49] <kyle__> Hfuy: Two, or three? of us have already told you, when you do a full install you'll get all the latest drivers etc, and then it will probably work.  No garuntee. but probably.
[17:50] <Hfuy> Oh god. CUPS.
[17:50] <Hfuy> There are whole rants online about this.
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> Hfuy  makes you feel less lonely with yours ;)
[17:50] <ThinkT510> Hfuy: there is also gutenprint
[17:51] <Hfuy> the first question is "enter device URI."
[17:51] <Hfuy> URI? To a printer? I don't know! "PRINTER"?
[17:52] <kyle__> Hfuy: there are also whole rants against evolution, the ACLU, and the catholic workers union.
[17:52] <usr13> Hfuy: firefox localhost:631
[17:52] <roasted> kyle__: yep, nothing happening over here.
[17:52] <MonkeyDust> there are rants against every system and every person
[17:53] <kyle__> roasted: Hum.  :/
[17:53] <kyle__> MonkeyDust: Don't forget fictional people.  Rants against them to.
[17:53] <Hfuy> A username and password are being requested by http://localhost:631. The site says: "CUPS"
[17:53] <MonkeyDust> twitter and facebook are online toilet doors
[17:54] <usr13> Hfuy: Sure
[17:54] <dougl> MonkeyDust, without the germs and smell.
[17:54] <usr13> Hfuy: But no use to configure the printer now... wait till you get your install done.
[17:55] <genii-around> sw: After scanning the manpage for whois, does not look like it takes a file containing a list as an argument. Also does not take multiple domain-names in the single command. If you wanted some one-line result from say: whois myname.com     with a yes-or-no type result, shois myname.com | grep status   might work. Probably results in either available, just return to command prompt.
[17:55] <Hfuy> I'm not going to install at all unless I can get bluetooth and print working.
[17:55] <usr13> Hfuy: Any configurations you do now are pointless.
[17:55] <genii-around> sw: Aplogies on lag, work required  me for an extended period
[17:55] <usr13> Hfuy: Well, then don't install anything.  No one is forcing you to do anything.
[17:55] <Hfuy> If they were pointless, I wouldn't do them.
[17:56] <kyle__> Hfuy: Then use the printer control panel under system settings, and stop being a troll.
[17:56] <usr13> Hfuy: What?
[17:56] <Hfuy> I did
[17:56] <SolarisB1y> heh
[17:56] <Hfuy> It asked me for a URI to the printer.
[17:56] <usr13> Hfuy: You are not making any sense
[17:56] <Hfuy> Which is nonsensical.
[17:56] <usr13> Hfuy: You are nonsensical
[17:57] <Hfuy> I appreciate that "discovering things that linux doesn't do very well" is effectively trolling in a linux channel, but there's not much I can do about that.
[17:57] <kyle__> Hfuy: If it's a network printer, then yes, you may need to type in a URI, if it's locally attached, choose it.
[17:57] <graft> service discovery usually finds printers on the network for me
[17:57] <Hfuy> Choose it how?
[17:57] <kyle__> Hfuy: You haven't discovered anything, only your own inability to think or take directions when asking for help.  I've been printing from cups for a long time, never had any problems.
[17:57] <SolarisB1y> me too
[17:58] <tqrst> any idea what might cause 'htop' to show up with only one column instead of taking up the full width of my terminal? 'top' works fine. htop used to work properly until about a week ago, and I'm not quite sure what changed in between.
[17:58] <kyle__> Hfuy: Is it a USB printer?  A network printer?
[17:58] <Phoenixz> On 12.04, I want NOT to have to enter a PW for sudo, tried myuser ALL = (ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL, myuser ALL =  NOPASSWD: ALL, nothing works.. what is wrong here?
[17:58] <usr13> Hfuy: If you do a linux install first, you can discover things that don't work very well, but right now, you are just quibling over stuff that is mostly not relevant.
[17:58] <Hfuy> USB. Locally attached.
[17:58] <Hfuy> usr13: Great linux attitude! Doesn't work? Obviously not relevant then!
[17:58] <graft> Hfuy: do you have drivers? a PPD file?
[17:58] <Hfuy> Believe me, printing is relevant.
[17:58] <usr13> Hfuy: That is not what I said.
[17:59] <kyle__> Hfuy: And in "Devices" does it show LPT Enter URI and Network Printer?
[17:59] <Phoenixz> It keeps asking for password on sudo
[17:59] <kyle__> Hfuy: Does it show anything else?
[17:59] <SolarisB1y> Phoenixz: im having the same issue
[17:59] <usr13> Hfuy: The USB drive that you are suing is *not* a full install.  It is *not* fully functional.  DO you undertand?
[17:59] <ThinkT510> Phoenixz: believe me, you don't want to do that
[17:59] <Hfuy> In the "devices" panel of the "new printer" dialog, I get "enter URI" and "network printer."
[17:59] <SolarisB1y> why not? ThinkT510 ??
[18:00] <kyle__> Hfuy: Sounds like the live cd doesn't have the usb-printer drivers then.
[18:00] <QubitSmuggler> phoenixz, it is always going to ask for a password on sudo
[18:00] <graft> Phoenixz: yeah, that's a bad idea... but check to see if there are other rules after that
[18:00] <ThinkT510> SolarisB1y: why not just let anyone have access then?
[18:00] <SolarisB1y> who else is in my house?
[18:00] <Hfuy> It's not a liveCD. It's a USB key derived from exactly the same ISO that I'd use to create an installer.
[18:00] <jonataaraujo> Ola, só vejo americano, algum brasileiro aquiii ????
[18:00] <kyle__> Hfuy: Either that, or: 1) printer is off 2) priter isn't plugged into the computer 3) usb port is bad
[18:00] <usr13> Hfuy: Again:  The LiveUSB you have booted to is *not* a full install and so there are some limitations.
[18:00] <SolarisB1y> i think it goes for where you are... of course if this is a shared environment then great - but having to type a sudo password in my house over and over and im the only person with a key is pointless..
[18:01] <kyle__> Hfuy: Thats the live cd off of USB.  Same groceries, different bag.
[18:01] <Phoenixz> ThinkT510: Believe me, I want to do that, and yes, I am aware of the risks.. I need it to work, something has changed because this worked on 11.04 w/o problem
[18:01] <SolarisB1y> if someone DID break in - then trust me - sudo is of no help at this point..
[18:01] <ThinkT510> SolarisB1y: if the box is on the internet then anything you run that uses sudo will have full access to your box
[18:01] <SolarisB1y> i use permissions properly
[18:01] <SolarisB1y> things that i run on the net are properly sandboxed
[18:01] <graft> Phoenixz: make sure your rule is the last in the file
[18:01] <usr13> ThinkT510: Good reason to use strong passwords and change often.
[18:01] <roasted> Is it true that beginning with 12.04, the preferred method of networking is to use network manager instead of the interfaces file? I find this strange for server users who want the desktop GUI.... can anybody attest to this?
[18:01] <SolarisB1y> www-data has no sudo privs
[18:01] <SolarisB1y> thas about it..
[18:02] <ThinkT510> usr13: indeed, which is why i said don't set sudo to not use a password
[18:02] <kyle__> SolarisB1y: www-data shouldn't have any sudo privs.
[18:02] <SolarisB1y> ofcourse not..
[18:02] <usr13> ThinkT510: Good advise.
[18:02] <graft> roasted: i feel like network manager has been preferred for a while
[18:03] <SolarisB1y> which is why im saying is it really a big risk for me in my sitution? or does it depend on the circumstance on "not disabling sudo password"
[18:03] <MindALot> Using additional drivers: ATI/AMD graphics driver (not post-release udpates) - I can play wine games and what not.. however, I can no longer see the output from ctrl-alt-f1.  I can blind log in and enter commands, but not see them.  Any ideas where I should look for a solution? (google failed me, couldn't find the correct search words)
[18:03] <roasted> graft: networkmanager has certainly gotten better, but I never would have thought it'd be "better" to use for a server................
[18:03] <SolarisB1y> especially since it is granular - for user or groups.. its not like it has to be global
[18:03] <graft> roasted: server with a GUI seems an exceptional use case
[18:03] <Phoenixz> graft: good suggestion, will check.. thanks!
[18:03] <MonkeyDust> SolarisB1y  type /nick [correct name]
[18:04] <kyle__> humm.  Maybe then.
[18:04] <SolarisB1y> thats not what i need to do
[18:04] <SolarisB1y> i need to ghost my home name
[18:04] <SolarisB1y> and then do that..
[18:04] <Phoenixz> graft: that was the problem, thanks!
[18:04] <SolarisB1y> but im lazy today =)
[18:04] <usr13> a server with a GUI makes little to no sense to me.
[18:04] <roasted> graft: I'll give network  manager a shot.
[18:04] <roasted> usr13: well, not much choice in the matter here, as it's what's set up - I'm just here upgrading it.
[18:04] <SolarisB1y> MonkeyDust: what was the origin of that comment anyway? you don't like the B1y? =)
[18:05] <usr13> roasted: Well, you could always unintall the GUI apps, (at any time).
[18:05] <graft> roasted: seems like on a server you'd want to just stick with the interfaces file... network manager requires you to be logged in to have a connection
[18:05] <graft> roasted: so if you do a remote reboot, you're kind of screwed
[18:06] <usr13> roasted: One needs to be careful with servers and one of the best security features is to not have un-necessary software installed.
[18:06] <SolarisB1y> why would network manager not bring up network on a remote reboot? assuming the run levels all start properly
[18:06] <usr13> graft: Good advise
[18:07] <zykotick9> !runlevel | SolarisB1y
[18:07] <SolarisB1y> zykotick9: thanks in this case runlevels/upstart events - whatever
[18:08] <kyle__> SolarisB1y: runlevels are arbitrary in other words.
[18:08] <SolarisB1y> why would network manger not start the network at the proper time?
[18:08] <SolarisB1y> kyle__: thanks - aware... i use a lot of distros so it may be force of habit more than anthing else...
[18:09] <zykotick9> SolarisB1y: typically you'd use N-M for wireless, and that typically only connects upon login, not at boot... "N-M is fail" in my opinion (for server it's ridiculous)
[18:09] <SolarisB1y> agreed - i guess that makes me more so not a fan now
[18:09] <kyle__> SolarisB1y: Same here.
[18:09] <SolarisB1y> i generally would default to interfaces file anyway for a server - only reason i run nm at home is because ubuntu one seems to demand it
[18:09] <kyle__> zykotick9: there was another good manager for wireless I read about the other day.  SUpposedly better than NM, non intrusive, and beleives you should deal with your wired connection yourself.
[18:10] <SolarisB1y> wicd?
[18:10] <kyle__> SolarisB1y: Yes, that was it.  Haven't played with it yet.
[18:10] <zykotick9> kyle__: do you mean wicd?  consider that deprecated :(.. which makes me very sad (as i use it on my netbook)
[18:10] <kyle__> :-(
[18:12] <ajudaeu> i cant load my php page http://50.7.195.90/~punk whoi can i resolved
[18:13] <br0wny> t
[18:15] <Hfuy> It seems printing would require a PPD file from Canon that I don't think they provide, so that's a no.
[18:15] <Hfuy> Skype's downloads don't offer one for 12.04; the most recent is 10.something. Should I get that instead?
[18:15] <kyle__> Hfuy: You use a PPD, or print generic postscript or PCL to it.
[18:15] <kyle__> Hfuy: Or grab the OSX driver, unzip it, and find the ppd in it.
[18:16] <roasted> kyle__: so, I removed the info from thei nterfaces file, fired up network manager.............................................. now 17 works, 18 does not.
[18:16] <roasted> kyle__: I heard a few people say (LTSP devs included) that beginning with 12.04 Network Manager was the preferred way tomanage your network, at least in the desktop version, which is of course what I'm using.
[18:16] <Hfuy> Canon do have a download for "debian and redhat."
[18:17] <Hfuy> Should I get the Skype installer for 10.04, or will that not work?
[18:18] <kyle__> roasted: and still just one route?
[18:18] <kyle__> Hfuy: Try the linux-static-binaries if they have it.  Otherwise, yes try the 10.04 binary.
[18:18] <Hfuy> there is an option called "static"
[18:19] <Hfuy> OK, got that. Opening it with "archive manager"
[18:20] <Hfuy> Er. No installer. What's the procedure?
[18:20] <roasted> kyle__: er, what? you mean only ONE interface set up with the gateway?
[18:20] <kyle__> roasted: only one gateway set.
[18:20] <roasted> each interface in network manager has the gateway listed.
[18:21] <roasted> tried 17.1 and 18.1, then changed both to 10.52.0.1... made 0 difference
[18:21] <kyle__> Did you list the default gateway both times?
[18:21] <kyle__> Hum.
[18:21] <roasted> kyle__: yes on each interface, gateway is listed.
[18:22] <Hfuy> Hmm. I can run "skype" (which is presumably the executable), but nothing appears to happen.
[18:22] <Topol> Who uses Docky here?
[18:23] <Hfuy> oh hm
[18:23] <Hfuy> "error while loading shared file libXss.so.1"
[18:23] <Hfuy> or something like that.
[18:23] <ubuntuN00B> is ubuntu easy to install??
[18:24] <Topol> ubuntuN00B: You talking about dual-booting? The yes
[18:24] <ubuntuN00B> thnx
[18:24] <Topol> then*
[18:24] <roasted> kyle__: k, so here's the basic synopsis I'm facing. My laptop CANNOT PING the server 's eth1, I can only ping eth0. eth1 is 18.2, and eth0 is 17.2. However, the server can ping my laptop via 18.2....
[18:24] <roasted> kyle__: how can a ping work one way?
[18:24] <Topol> If you USB boot it say from bios, you can create a user and password and start the GUI with "startx"
[18:24] <ubuntuN00B> how long does it take?
[18:24] <angela-> try wubi ubuntu ferry easy install in windows
[18:24] <Topol> An hour or less
[18:25] <Topol> If you dont like Unity, try Xubuntu for XFCE or Kubuntu for KDE
[18:25] <Topol> I use 10.04 with GNOME
[18:25] <kyle__> roasted: You did a dist-upgrade right? And are you sure there's no lameo firewall running by default?
[18:25] <Topol> But thats just me
[18:25] <roasted> kyle__: dist-upgrade? no, I did do-release-upgrade -d
[18:25] <Hfuy> is there an easy fix for the error "error while loading shared libraries: libXss.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[18:26] <roasted> kyle__: LTSP devs said dist-upgrade could break things, do-release-update -d was the safe and logical way to go
[18:27] <roasted> kyle__: hmm, looks like google says it HAS to be a firewall, somehow
[18:27] <kyle__> roasted: That's what I meant to say.  Hum.  I'm really tempted to say, switch problem.
[18:27] <roasted> kyle__: same here bro
[18:28] <roasted> kyle__: network manager, to be honest, looks pretty nice now. It's working beautifully.
[18:28] <Topol> ubuntuN00B: Do you still use Windows?
[18:28] <roasted> kyle__: that said, I have to wonder why 17 work snow and 18 doesnt, remember before 17 didnt work and 18 did
[18:29] <kyle__> roasted: I'm wondering if there is maybe eitehr a loopback going on, or the spanning-tree type looback protection goning nuts.
[18:29] <kyle__> Both things would need the network admin to poke the switch.
[18:30] <kyconquers> I am trying to mount a folder from a 11.04 system to a 12.04 system. so far I am not having any luck. I can access the source on the local network using it's host name but can't when I change networks (the destination is on a laptop).
[18:31] <SolarisB1y> i know by default the ufw/iptables setup blocks icmp requests
[18:31] <SolarisB1y> @ kyle__  and roasted
[18:31] <SolarisB1y> its easy to tell. - traceroute -n <IP>
[18:32] <SolarisB1y> look for !X
[18:32] <kyconquers> as of yet I am having trouble mounting it just through the local network, I am using sudo mount <host_of_source>:<source_folder> <destination_folder>
[18:32] <kyconquers> SolarisB1y, on the destination box right?
[18:32] <SolarisB1y> kyconquers: from a working box to the not responding box yes
[18:33] <Guest21581> Hi everyone, Anybody able to offer advice as to why you tube plays some video's without problems and others it shows a plugin error, it gets better if I disable shockwave flash plugin. I have tried to update the plug ins and/or disable them all and it keeps selectively playing some but not others?? thank you
[18:33] <SolarisB1y> if !X pops up it's admin prohibited which generally maps 1:1 to ICMP rules on the firewall
[18:33] <SolarisB1y> or ACL on an intermediary device - but thats probably not ur issue
[18:34] <kyconquers> I do not see a !X
[18:34] <SolarisB1y> then it probably isn't administratively prohibited
[18:35] <SolarisB1y> kyconquers: that wasn't for you - it was for roasted
[18:35] <SolarisB1y> and not getting response from ping etc.
[18:35] <kyconquers> the error I'm getting is wrong fs type.
[18:35] <kyconquers> SolarisB1y, oh sorry.
[18:35] <SolarisB1y> kyconquers: that error is generally true =)
[18:36] <SolarisB1y> kyconquers: what is "it" an NFS mount or Samba or such?
[18:37] <kyconquers> how would I find out?
[18:38] <SolarisB1y> did this mount point ever work or is something new you are setting up? if it's a remote mount do you have access to the system serving it?
[18:39] <kyconquers> this is something completely new and I have full access to both.
[18:39] <SolarisB1y> great - ok - so you know it's a remote mount - because you are using remote mount options.. so may i assume you setup the remote side?
[18:41] <kyconquers> I thought it was like scp where it would prompt me for a password but I did not have to do anything to the source before hand.
[18:41] <roasted> kyle__: fun fact - remember how I was getting the "waiting for network......" error, followed by "booting up without full networking" ?????
[18:41] <SolarisB1y> well no generally - what is your aim?
[18:41] <roasted> kyle__: if I disable the entries in interfaces file, but enable netowrk manager............................... it's fine................
[18:42] <roasted> kyle__: I'm beginning to wonder if network manager is a little more deserving of some credit in regardst o how it works *shrug*
[18:42]  * SolarisB1y coughs **no**
[18:42] <Gabrielmx_x> Anyonem know how to connect xchat with ICQ chat?
[18:42] <usr13> kyconquers: You said you changed network?
[18:42] <kyconquers> SolarisB1y, I am going to turn the source into a dev box so I can share files and things through it as well as proxy through it.
[18:43] <killer_> why can't i connect to windows created adhoc
[18:43] <SolarisB1y> ok
[18:43] <kyconquers> I have a desktop and two laptops.
[18:43] <usr13> killer_: No reason why you shouldn't
[18:43] <SolarisB1y> kyconquers: decide how you want it to work.. do you want the desktop to share files out for the laptops to connect to?
[18:43] <kyconquers> I am test this on one of my laptop
[18:44] <SolarisB1y> ok - what do you need to share? what will you do with the files on the remote share? what type of files?
[18:44] <usr13> killer_: As long as you know how to connect to another adhoc node.
[18:44] <kyconquers> SolarisB1y, no I have a dev box just for this and I want to acces a folder on both laptops and my desktop
[18:44] <SolarisB1y> generally nfs/samba are sufficient - nfs just works - samba.. is samba.. but the linux guys did what they could to make it a solution..
[18:44] <SolarisB1y> then theres other stuff like iscsi - and more - so it's on you.. what do you require
[18:44] <usr13> kyconquers: Can you ping the IP?
[18:45] <kyconquers> usr13, yes all four are on my local network
[18:45] <SolarisB1y> heh - setup a sharing solution before you worry about that afaik..
[18:45] <usr13> kyconquers: All 4?
[18:45] <SolarisB1y> lol i thought you were actually connecting to an existing share..
[18:46] <kyconquers> SolarisB1y, mostly music and stuff. but I also want to do word documents (or libbre equivalent)
[18:46] <SolarisB1y> kyconquers: what OS are all the systems?
[18:46] <SolarisB1y> all linux kyconquers ?
[18:46] <kyconquers> yes
[18:46] <SolarisB1y> nfs
[18:46] <nja> Hi all
[18:47] <kyconquers> right now the dev is ubuntu 11.04 all others are 12.04 but I want to change the dev to debian
[18:47] <SolarisB1y> check out how to install and configure an nfs-server - and how to update the exports file and let me know if you have any questions
[18:47] <usr13> kyconquers: I thought you said that you were trying to mount *a* folder from a 11.04 system to a 12.04 system"  What do you mean "all four of them"?
[18:47] <SolarisB1y> kyconquers: take a look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[18:48] <SolarisB1y> nfs is rather generic across versions - the install and setup usually stays the same (but it is ubuntu..)..
[18:48] <kyconquers> usr13, a folder from my dev box (1) to my two laptops (2,3) and my desktop (4)
[18:48] <nja> 12.10 needs to get more syncronisation features.
[18:48] <kyconquers> thanks SolarisB1y
[18:48] <jarifle> sup ppl from all over the world i dont know
[18:48] <jarifle> dfjkgbhrgb
[18:48] <usr13> kyconquers: Ok, well, you are all over the place with this issue.  You need to read some documentation.
[18:48] <SolarisB1y> kyconquers: sure - and it takes only a few minutes - no need to over complicate anything =)
[18:49] <SolarisB1y> i think he thought it worked like scp usr13 .
[18:49] <nja> Perhaps we could use Ubuntu One to link with software centre, user accounts and system settings.
[18:49] <SolarisB1y> so he didn't know what he had to setup for a remote filesystem share of $any kind
[18:49] <jarifle> gzhgqeKGHQGKFHQUEGHQKLGHQGYQgklsghgkesghsuqgkqhqkgqdgquljfjqgulehgeukgqehugl
[18:49] <usr13> SolarisB1y: Yea, it wasn't making much sense to me...
[18:49] <kyconquers> SolarisB1y, will I be able to use it if I change my dev-box to debian?
[18:49] <sw> !rules > jarifle
[18:50] <kyconquers> or does this mean I should keep it ubuntu?
[18:50] <SolarisB1y> maybe your on a different level of understanding for filesystems..
[18:50] <pb> lol strd out!~
[18:50] <SolarisB1y> kyconquers: nfs works doesn't matter just dont install windows or anything
[18:50] <SolarisB1y> *nix has a thing for adhering to protocols well  - there is generally little breakage between standardized implementations on how services should speak on *nix atleast..
[18:51] <kyconquers> SolarisB1y, ok that woun't be a problem. thanks again.
[18:51] <SolarisB1y> not so much for m$ - i mean - look what they did to ldap...
[18:51] <kyle__> SolarisB1y: Unless you're talking about OSX and NFSv4.
[18:51] <SolarisB1y> kyle__: heh..
[18:51] <IUC> good evening everyone i have a question i have a major problem on my server  i checked documents but i cant find a solition
[18:51] <pb> just got back from an office were during a storm last night his /system32 got corrupted... and fried the cd rom somehow.. ouch bad run of luck.
[18:51] <IUC> oot@shellmix:~# sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[18:51] <IUC> Syntax error on line 48 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-ispconfig.vhost:
[18:51] <IUC> Invalid command 'SSLEngine', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration
[18:51] <IUC> Action 'configtest' failed.
[18:51] <FloodBot1> IUC: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:51] <IUC> The Apache error log may have more information.
[18:51] <IUC> ...fail!
[18:51] <SolarisB1y> fix your apache typo..
[18:52] <SolarisB1y> run configtest _before_ restarting IUC
[18:52] <SolarisB1y> Syntax error on line 48 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-ispconfig.vhost look at the line you most likely just edited on line 48 in the file they told you about there..
[18:52] <IUC> well i tried to fix from webmin but still apache cant get up
[18:52] <SolarisB1y> ew webmin?
[18:52] <IUC> yes i am using webmin for free
[18:53] <SolarisB1y> i wouldn't use it at all..
[18:53] <IUC> i am far from local serverat the moment
[18:53] <usr13> IUC: Is this a Ubuntu system?
[18:53] <SolarisB1y> ssh access?
[18:53] <IUC> usr yes ubuntu 12 server
[18:53] <IUC> yes
[18:53] <IUC> port 22
[18:53] <SolarisB1y> so ssh in and fix the typo
[18:54] <zykotick9> !webmin | IUC
[18:54] <SolarisB1y> afaik webmin always had that probably anywhere you install it lol
[18:54] <usr13> IUC: If you used webmin to configure apache, that is more-than-likely your problem.
[18:54] <SolarisB1y> red hat - debian doesn't matter
[18:54] <IUC> ubottu do you have a better free web interface offer instead of webmin
[18:54] <usr13> ubuntu 12?
[18:55] <IUC> well i am not :)
[18:55] <usr13> IUC: lsb_release -r
[18:55] <IUC> yeps 12.04 lts
[18:56] <IUC> Release:        12.04
[18:56] <MindALot> anyone know how to disable vesafb on ubuntu ?
[18:56] <IUC> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[18:56] <IUC> this is where i download from
[18:56] <MindALot> I read that I can pass vesafb.nonsense=1  to grub... but I don't know how to do that specifically
[18:57] <usr13> IUC: If you install webmin on your 12.04 server then you will more-than-likely have problems.  Problems that webmin can't fix, ones that *you* will have to fix.
[18:58] <IUC> usr13 i am what exactly i am trying to do at the moment
[18:58] <IUC> pico /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-ispconfig.vhost
[18:58] <usr13> IUC: What did you download from http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server ?
[18:58] <IUC> ubuntu 12.04 lts what else :)
[18:58] <usr13> IUC: webmin
[18:59] <usr13> IUC: At any rate, what does the log say?
[18:59] <IUC> user13 hold on a minute please eh i am trying to find the damn bug
[18:59] <usr13> IUC: Bug?  What are you talking about?
[19:00] <ffej> I have a USB memory stick.  It is a bootable UBUNTU live, but it went south during an update.  Specifically, it ran out of room.  I would like to now completely erase everything on it and make it a *current* bootable UBUNTU live device.  I know there is one or 2 terminal commands to do this but I can't find them anywhere.
[19:00] <roasted> Question - is there a way in 12.04 to create a link that points directly to a samba share? I used to create a"location" shortcut but that feature is now missing in 12.04
[19:00] <usr13> IUC: pastebinit /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-ispconfig.vhost
[19:01] <pb> pb|cod
[19:01] <pb> misstype sorry
[19:03] <ffej> I have a USB memory stick.  It is a bootable UBUNTU live, but it went south during an update.  Specifically, it ran out of room.  I would like to now completely erase everything on it and make it a *current* bootable UBUNTU live device.  I know there is one or 2 terminal commands to do this but I can't find them anywhere.
[19:03] <Charbel> hi, i just installed ubuntu 11.10 and i installed firmware installer for my broadcom 4311 wireless but when i run ifconfig wlan0 up i get wlan0: error fetching interface information: device not found and when i run ip link set wlan0 up i get Cannot find device "wlan0" anyone can help plz ?
[19:04] <kyle__> O_o holy crap.  Ubuntu finally has a dirt simple ldap authentication setup.
[19:04] <IUC> user13 here http://pastebin.com/kHFVbbBS
[19:04] <kyle__> Admittedly I hadn't tried since 9.04.
[19:05] <IUC> besides that ispconfig doesnt works on 8080 or 8081 either
[19:05] <IUC> webmin sucks & ubuntu sucks!
[19:05] <SolarisB1y> smh
[19:05] <SolarisB1y> the new generation of people that can't fix what they break and get mad at the older generation who built it correctly
[19:05] <SolarisB1y> golden
[19:07] <pozic_> Why isn't there a source package for everything which is open-source?
[19:07] <IUC> usr13 got any idea about the error?
[19:07] <kyle__> IUC: Um.  You realize that webmin was made as a crutch to let web-designers who knew nothing about running a system deploy their own pages.
[19:07] <_sarah___> usr13: run sudo rm -rf /
[19:07] <pozic_> The property that apt-get -b source packagename gets and builds packagename for all packages doesn't hold.
[19:07] <alfo-77> ciao
[19:07] <alfo-77> !list
[19:07] <kyle__> _sarah___: Ahhem.   That's not nice.
[19:08] <IUC> umm i am so far from couptng and programming for long years kylie i had 2 heart attacks 2 brain blooding stand on my heart at the moment Diabetic +HT patient here
[19:08] <_sarah___> wow pops the fuq outta here
[19:08] <_sarah___> later d-bags
[19:08] <SolarisB1y> lolZ
[19:08] <ThinkT510> pozic: what are you trying to get source of?
[19:08] <alfo-77> http//:www.youtube.com
[19:08] <aetas-dk> HI everyone. Could anyone help me figur out a problem. I can connect to my ubuntu 12.04 server using ssh, but no other connection is possible
[19:08] <pozic_> ThinkT510: not of importance for this question.
[19:09] <ultamatum> hello
[19:09] <ultamatum> how do i actally install ubuntu
[19:09] <IUC> ateas-dk welcome to club yet another victim of ubuntu we see here :)
[19:09] <QubitSmuggler> put the cd in the tray
[19:09] <kyle__> ultamatum: download the iso, burn it to a cd, boot off the cd?
[19:09] <QubitSmuggler> and click the buttons
[19:09] <pozic_> ThinkT510: it's a package which Ubuntu distributes and which I can also download as source from the upstream source.
[19:09] <aetas-dk> thanks IUC :)
[19:09] <ultamatum> i have it set up on my other computer and its got a selection screen
[19:09] <IUC> ateas:)
[19:10] <Pe1000b> @find le pyromane
[19:10] <pozic_> ThinkT510: in fact, according to the rules of the GPL, I should be able to obtain source.
[19:10] <usr13> IUC: No idea.
[19:10] <aetas-dk> IUC: Have you had any experience with the problem?
[19:10] <|Anthony|> i want to set ulimit -n unlimited but don't know how
[19:10] <IUC> ateas nope not yet
[19:10] <pozic_> !source
[19:10] <IUC> usr13 ok thanks
[19:10] <ThinkT510> pozic: thats lovely, what's stopping you
[19:10] <|Anthony|> when i set /etc/security/limits.conf to any number ulimit -n still shows 1024
[19:10] <ub__> abstract
[19:10] <ultamatum> i have it set up on my other computer and its a selection screen up just now and when i click install ubuntu it just comes up a flashing light then every so often it comes up a big white flash please help
[19:11] <|Anthony|> where is it storing this info
[19:11] <pozic_> ThinkT510: yeah, I should totally go and sue Canonical.
[19:11] <tgm4883> Where can I find the short GPL v3 blurb that goes in the top of each file of an application?
[19:11] <IUC> still have a problem with damn ubuntu ateas
[19:11] <aetas-dk> IUC: Okay, thx anyway :) Same problem?
[19:11] <ultamatum> i have it set up on my other computer and its a selection screen up just now and when i click install ubuntu it just comes up a flashing light then every so often it comes up a big white flash please help
[19:11] <IUC> ateas no  here is my problem n.com/kHFVbbBS
[19:11] <OptimizedCoder> Question abt partitioning (gparted) - I'm running a Wubi install - I recently added a new hdd
[19:12] <OerHeks> |Anthony|, still your java issue what needs more than 1024 open files?
[19:12] <OptimizedCoder> Under gparted I see three devices sda sdb and sdc
[19:12] <IUC> Syntax error on line 48 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-ispconfig.vhost:
[19:12] <ultamatum> same i am running a wubi thing on a disk i bought the disk online
[19:12] <OptimizedCoder> I'm thinking sdc is the new hdd I added - how do I make sure that it indeed was the last added hdd?
[19:12] <OptimizedCoder> \like form dmesg / equivalent?
[19:12] <aetas-dk> n.com?
[19:12] <IUC> pastebin
[19:12] <IUC> sorry for that
[19:12] <|Anthony|> lol OerHeks yes... getting frustrated with the program devs suggestion that i increase it to 65k
[19:12] <aetas-dk> ah
[19:12] <subman> I seem to be having an issue with Firefox locking up and taking up a huge amount of CPU.  When looking in System Monitor, every running process shows 'Waiting Channel' as 'poll_schedule_timeout' is this normal?
[19:13] <IUC> its over heat here arround 35 C so hot
[19:13] <IUC> many laptops and pc and systems working on my room
[19:13] <OptimizedCoder> Any ideas y'all?
[19:13] <aetas-dk> IUC: L'll take a look
[19:13] <IUC> ok thanks for help
[19:13] <kyle__> subman: what do you have open when that happens?  How much ram do you have?
[19:13] <ThinkT510> OptimizedCoder: you could compare the size
[19:13] <OptimizedCoder> ThinkT510, All ar unfortunately the same size :(
[19:14] <subman> kyle__, 8 GB RAM.  Do you mean what programs or pages open
[19:14] <OptimizedCoder> but being pedantic
[19:14] <OptimizedCoder> there must be a way - to see the last added device right ?
[19:14] <ThinkT510> OptimizedCoder: what are on the other 2 disks?
[19:14] <OptimizedCoder> dmesg
[19:14] <kyle__> OptimizedCoder: dmesg should tell you, also, you could check previous boots in  /var/log/messages, see what the UUID of the old drive is?  I think it shows up in there.
[19:14] <OptimizedCoder> ThinkT510, data
[19:14] <kyle__> subman: pages.
[19:14] <OptimizedCoder> kyle__, hmm - let me chk them
[19:14] <ThinkT510> OptimizedCoder: is the 3rd free space
[19:14] <kyle__> subman: Although with 8GB of ram, I'm tempted to say, adobe Flash.
[19:15] <OptimizedCoder> ThinkT510, I'm guessing so - since i got it from our IT folks
[19:15] <subman> The page that seems to give me an issue is running some sample code on codeacademy.com.  I hit the 'Run' button and boom, FF freezes solid.
[19:15] <ThinkT510> OptimizedCoder: gparted will show you if any partitions are on it
[19:16] <subman> kyle__, The page that seems to give me an issue is running some sample code on codeacademy.com.  I hit the 'Run' button and boom, FF freezes solid.
[19:16] <kyle__> subman: Wow.  Does it ever come back with that window saying a script is making it unresponsive?
[19:16] <kyle__> subman: What does it do in opera or chrome?
[19:17] <subman> kyle__, Nope.  CPU goes from 4% to 50%+ and just hangs
[19:17] <subman> kyle__, I'll try that same page in Chromium
[19:18] <kyle__> subman: Strange.  How far into it does it happen?  I've gone through the first two "lessons"
[19:18] <Raydiation_> i installed ubuntu 12.04 and it didnt find my fedora installation. any convenient way to add it to the grub list?
[19:18] <|Anthony|> if i uncomment session    required   pam_limits.so from /etc/pam.d.su, will i need to fully configure /etc/security/limits.conf?
[19:19] <subman> kyle__, I'm JavaScript Fundamentals>FizzBuzz Section 1/3 #5 Counting down,down,down
[19:19] <Raydiation_> haha, just needed to mount it and run update grub
[19:19] <zykotick9> Raydiation_: start by trying "sudo update-grub" and see if it get auto-added.
[19:19] <Raydiation_> zykotick9: had to a
[19:19] <Dr_Willis> Raydiation_:  try rerunning 'sudo update-grub' if that fails to install it. You could edit /etc/grub.d/40_custom to add an entry to boot the other os.
[19:19] <Raydiation_> mount the partition
[19:19] <Raydiation_> ty
[19:19] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[19:20] <kyconquers> SolarisB1y, I followed the instructions but am getting a access denied error.
[19:20] <kyle__> subman: Does it do that with your code in there, or the default input window?
[19:21] <subman> kyle__, It does the very same in Chromium!  An unresponsive script window comes up though.  Not in FF.  Default input window, modified script as per the lesson.
[19:21] <subman> kyle__, Chromium goes to 80%+
[19:23] <|Anthony|> anyone have input?
[19:23] <kyle__> Wow.  I haven't clicked through far enough to get to fizzbuz.  But wow.  I'm affraid you'll need to send them an email.  It's their javascript.
[19:23] <kyle__> |Anthony|: mouse and keyboard here.
[19:24] <|Anthony|> lol kyle__
[19:24] <subman> kyle__, Yeah, thought so.  I'm just doing that very thing right now!  Thanks for the confirmation though.  Too bad as it is a pretty good resource!
[19:24] <|Anthony|> but seriously
[19:24] <kyle__> |Anthony|: Ooh, about your question.  limmits.conf is a different animal.
[19:24] <VanKush> Dr_Willis: I finally found what was wrong with KDM yesterday. Since LightDM uses own config to populate the session list, it created a ton of dummy profiles in place from which KDM populates its own list... renaming those fixed the issue
[19:25] <kyle__> subman: Yea, looks cool.  Similar one for ruby on this site http://www.codeschool.com/courses
[19:25] <|Anthony|> basically i want to set ulimit -n unlimited
[19:25] <kyle__> ;) have to plug my favorite language
[19:25] <|Anthony|> and have it work as expected
[19:25] <|Anthony|> modifying limits.conf the changes aren't persistent
[19:25] <kyle__> |Anthony|: Umm.  Err.  I thought ubuntu didn't set ulimits by default...which would make them unlimmited.
[19:26] <kyle__> Dammnit, I keep putting two mms when I write limmit.
[19:26] <kyle__> limit.
[19:26] <|Anthony|> ulimit -n 1024
[19:26] <kyle__> There.
[19:26] <|Anthony|> that's the default
[19:27] <kyle__> |Anthony|: Oh.  Well, why don't you want to set that in /etc/security/limits.conf?  That's the right place for them.
[19:27] <|Anthony|> despite the fact that i have nofile 2048
[19:27] <|Anthony|> i did
[19:27] <kyle__> O_o
[19:27] <kyle__> |Anthony|: And it didn't respect it?
[19:27] <|Anthony|> nope
[19:28] <|Anthony|> tbh i set the hard @ 2048
[19:28] <|Anthony|> that was all i defined there though
[19:28] <|Anthony|> not a soft
[19:29] <|Anthony|> @anthony        hard    nofile          unlimited
[19:29] <|Anthony|> is what i would like to have
[19:29] <kyle__> |Anthony|: What was your syntax?  Because I jsut set it, sshed in, and it worked for setting it to a numeric.
[19:29] <|Anthony|> but i dont think ulimited is a valid value
[19:29] <kyle__> Testing for "unlimited" now.
[19:30] <OptimizedCoder> kyle__, http://pastebin.com/WWRhG8im
[19:30] <OptimizedCoder> kyle__, How do I know from here which was the last added disk ?
[19:30] <jefkin> I have a php 5.3.10 source build problem for ubuntu 12.04  -- I found a parallel issue -> from aways back  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/837049 ... if this isn't the right place to ask, could someone clue me into a better place?
[19:32] <aetas-dk> HI everyone. Could anyone help me figur out a problem. I can connect to my ubuntu 12.04 server using ssh, but no other connection is possible
[19:33] <|Anthony|> aetas-dk, sudo ufw status
[19:33] <trism> jefkin: it would be more helpful to pastebin the output when you build so we can see the error
[19:33] <kyle__> OptimizedCoder: Were both discs in when you botted?
[19:33] <kyle__> booted?
[19:33] <jefkin> trism: ok, comming :)
[19:33] <zykotick9> aetas-dk: what service(s) are you failing to connect to?  are ports forwarded?
[19:34] <kyle__> |Anthony|: Hu.  You're right.  It's not taking it.  I thought - was supposed to mean it didn't set a limit.
[19:34] <OptimizedCoder> kyle__, Actually 3 disk - I already had 2 disks - the 3rd disk was added in - all unfortunately 160gigs
[19:34] <aetas-dk> member:zykotick9, well I can see it on my network, but not connect
[19:34] <kyle__> OptimizedCoder: Added after boot time, or before boot time?
[19:34] <|Anthony|> kyle__, something about pam.d/su
[19:34] <OptimizedCoder> kyle__, before
[19:34] <zykotick9> aetas-dk: connect using what?
[19:34] <aetas-dk> member:identifier:|anthony|, Status: inactive
[19:34] <m1chael> anyone have any idea how to stream google talk / skype out to an icecast server?
[19:35] <aetas-dk> member:zykotick9, I have tried both smb, and afp. afp usually works. Im running a LAMP
[19:35] <kyle__> OptimizedCoder: Um.  Strange, I don't see any info in there.  Is there anything on the new drive?
[19:35] <OptimizedCoder> kyle__, Shouldn't be
[19:35] <zykotick9> !lamp | aetas-dk this sorta LAMP?
[19:36] <jefkin> make failure -> http://pastebin.com/C211fdBf
[19:36] <kyle__> OptimizedCoder: Then just type fdisk -l, and the one with no partitions should be it.
[19:36] <OptimizedCoder> can I just mount /dev/sdc1 <location> to try and see if it is accessible?
[19:36] <trism> jefkin: which ubuntu version are you on?
[19:36] <kyle__> OptimizedCoder: if there's nothing on it, there might not BE a 1 partition.
[19:36] <sasser> good luck to all of them groupcat ;)
[19:37] <jefkin> trism: 12.04
[19:37] <kyle__> OptimizedCoder: But then again there might be.  Give it a shot.
[19:37] <aetas-dk> member:ubottu: the Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP - however I have modifed it to be able to use it with my mac, so I could do timemachine backup
[19:38] <kyle__> I need to go forrage for food and coffee.  Be back later.
[19:38] <OptimizedCoder> kyle__, http://pastebin.com/Kaaw7wXa -> I'm not sure which is the new one now sda1/sdc1
[19:38] <OptimizedCoder> kyle__, How do I know where my /dev/loop0 comes from (using WUBI) - through /sda1 / sdc1
[19:38] <jefkin> trism: I see on that bug I mentioned earlier 837049, the last poster from a few months ago seemed to hit the same problem as I just did.
[19:39] <OptimizedCoder> kyle__, how do I get that info?
[19:41] <joel135> Hi, I'd like to set horizontal and vertical mouse speed separately. How do I do this? The reason I want to do it is my pointer moves really fast vertically when the aspect ratio of my desktop is low (e.g. http://goo.gl/JYcJG)
[19:42] <trism> jefkin: we have a bunch of libtool patches in the package, I'm not sure which (if any) work around the issue, I'll see if I can reproduce it and figure it out
[19:42] <jefkin> trism: also, note, after running into the CDPATH part in that bug, I -- on my own, hacked the libtool to add a lt_unset='unset' ... in order to get past the line 481.
[19:43] <jefkin> trism: but that didn't actually solve the problem :)
[19:43] <OptimizedCoder> How do I know where my /dev/loop0 comes from (using WUBI) - through /sda1 or /sdc1? How do I tellthis?
[19:44] <jefkin> trism: do those patches come with the package itself? -- or is there a place I can download them?
[19:45] <trism> jefkin: apt-get source php5; they are in debian/patches/
[19:45] <jefkin> trism: lol just found them :D
[19:54] <prashantj> hi
[19:55] <The10thDragonn> sup
[19:55] <jefkin> trism: the bug says amd64 only, and I'm not sure what my processor is on this box, but I'm thinking that you may not be able to reproduce if that is a real condition for the failure
[19:55] <beandog> jefkin: lscpu
[19:56] <The10thDragonn>  ?
[19:56] <prashantj> Can you explain ?
[19:56] <trism> jefkin: yeah I haven't been able to reproduce it yet (I am testing on amd64 though)
[19:56] <The10thDragonn> --------------------------------------------------------------------
[19:57] <OptimizedCoder> Got all my answers! Thanks y'all
[19:57] <The10thDragonn> np
[19:59] <djskidd> hi, how do I allocate more memory to Minecraft? I have 1024MB avail, want to allocate 750MB to Minecraft in XUbuntu
[19:59] <jefkin> beandog: thanks, trism: http://pastebin.com/zefH3Yrg
[19:59] <tinman> is any one else having issues with ubuntu slowing down your  internet connection?
[20:00] <testuser> djskidd: set it in the start up java command line
[20:00] <djskidd> how?
[20:00] <testuser> I can't remember the argument, but you can tell it how much to use
[20:00] <djskidd> so far my command in Guake is java -jar minecraft.jar
[20:00] <djskidd> what else do I put in?
[20:00] <mbroadst> is anyone aware of a ppa for a newer version of connman, preferably 0.79+
[20:01] <cookie4270> djskidd: java -Xmx750M -Xms750M -jar minecraft.jar
[20:01] <testuser> yep
[20:01] <testuser> you can google it for more detail
[20:01] <testuser> anyone know anything about java-6-openjdk not fully installing properly?
[20:01] <testuser> I have missing files in the headless package
[20:01] <testuser> when doing an MD5 comparision
[20:01] <The10thDragonn> reinstall shud fix it
[20:02] <testuser> I did aptitude reinstall
[20:02] <djskidd> how can I do a shortcut to that command?
[20:02] <testuser> anything else?
[20:02] <djskidd> like I doubleclick something, and it will automatically execute that command?
[20:03] <The10thDragonn> kidd right click it make sure its executable
[20:04] <The10thDragonn> read instruction for java make sure did everthing step by step
[20:04] <usr13> testuser: Why are you using aptitude?
[20:05] <djskidd> how do I mark the jar as executable
[20:05] <The10thDragonn> one thing i learned about linux you cnt skip any instructions -_- or it wnt wrk right
[20:05] <tensorpudding> djskidd, you don't
[20:06] <djskidd> tensorpudding, then what do I do?
[20:06] <testuser> usr13 apt-get reinstall
[20:06] <testuser> did nothing
[20:06] <Dr_Willis> i belive the minecraft faq/docs discuss how to start it up
[20:06] <tensorpudding> djskidd, maybe nautilus requires it to be now, i don't know, you right click and check out properties
[20:06] <testuser> I mean it typed it out
[20:06] <rhizmoe> wow, i think i found a comparison of window managers that isn't riddled with spelling errors and txtspeak
[20:06] <Dr_Willis> make a shell script to laucnh it. then a launcher to run that script would be a common way
[20:07] <Dr_Willis> txtspeak? ;)
[20:07] <djskidd> I get this: "The file '/home/djskidd/minecraft.jar' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit."
[20:07] <b0nghitter> on ubuntu server 12.04, how do i stop the screen from going blank after a few min?
[20:07] <Dr_Willis> !permissions | djskidd
[20:07] <testuser> usr13 any suggestion how to reinstall then?
[20:08] <Dr_Willis> you want to give minecraft addational options when launched i belive.
[20:08] <usr13> testuser: It has been my experience that reinstalling usually does not fix anything.
[20:09] <usr13> testuser: but just apt-get remove or apt-get purge and then apt-get install
[20:09] <usr13> if you must...
[20:09] <glebihan> testuser, with apt-get, to reinstall you have to use "apt-get install --reinstall <packagename>"
[20:09] <testuser> ah okay
[20:09] <testuser> I did that
[20:09] <testuser> result was this
[20:10] <testuser> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/openjdk-6-jre-headless_6b24-1.11.3-1ubuntu0.10.04.1_amd64.deb (--unpack):  trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk', which is also in package default-jre-headless 1:1.6-43ubuntu2
[20:10] <terminhell> howdy
[20:10] <prashant_123456> where can i get free shell account i have tried shellmix.com and freelinuxconsole.info all waste of time any suggestions ?
[20:11] <The10thDragonn> fshell.org
[20:11] <OerHeks> prashant_123456, you waste your time here, this is ubuntu support only.
[20:11] <prashant_123456> OerHeks, ok
[20:11] <prashant_123456> OerHeks, sorry
[20:12] <testuser> glebihan or usr13 any ideas on that error? or how to get around it?
[20:12] <b0nghitter> setterm -blank 0 did not error, but -powersave off says invalid argument
[20:12] <OerHeks> prashant_123456, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:12] <b0nghitter> and the help says to use on/off etc
[20:12] <rsajdok> Is it possible to set workspace switcher on top panel in the unity?
[20:13] <prashant_123456> OerHeks, thanks
[20:13] <Dr_Willis> rsajdok:  theres some indicator-applets that put a menu or icon in the top panel to change work spaces  - saw them in the list of indicator-applets on askubuntu.com
[20:15] <rsajdok> Dr_Willis: thanks :)
[20:15] <testuser> no one have a clue about that error?
[20:15] <testuser> or how I can resolve it to fix the installation?
[20:16] <Dr_Willis> testuser:  you are installing 2 packagtes that seem to both want to install the same file. so either remove the one you dont need.. or move/rename the file  as a nasty work around perhaps.
[20:16] <testuser> hmm
[20:16] <testuser> that is going to be fun
[20:17] <blitz> what does Run as root is not need, just append self into 'disk' group and relogin. mean
[20:17] <blitz> how do I append myself into the 'disk' group
[20:17] <beandog> sudo gpasswd -a username disk
[20:17] <blitz> thanks
[20:18] <beandog> then su - username
[20:18] <beandog> groups
[20:18] <Dr_Willis> dont forget teh -a ;)
[20:18] <beandog> or just log in and out
[20:18] <blitz> relogging is easier
[20:18] <beandog> out and in.
[20:18] <beandog> -_-
[20:19] <blitz> I don't think it worked
[20:19] <beandog> run groups
[20:19] <beandog> see what it says
[20:20] <blitz> blitz adm disk dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare
[20:20] <diverdude> Are repo apps being code reviewed?
[20:20] <blitz> disk is under my groups
[20:21] <DMASS> Hey everybody,   I hope someone can help cause Im out of ideas.  Im trying to communicate with an RS-232 device via a KeySpan USB to Serial adapter from a simple bash script to be run by cron.   If i use screen I can communicate with the device with no problems, but if I try to echo"mycmd" > /dev/ttyUSB0, I get nothing.  Ive checked dmesg and lsusb and everything looks fine. Ive also veryified baud stop bits etc, with stty. I have found simular issues online 
[20:21] <DMASS>  nothing actaully solved my problem. Anyone have any suggestions?   Oh ya,  Ubuntu Server 12.04
[20:21] <blitz> ok it's working, thanks
[20:22] <rhizmoe> i like how nobody actually describes what xmonad/awesome offer
[20:22] <jefkin> trism: sweet! ... applied all the patches that had 'LT' in a lib tool context, in them, then all that had lt_ a few CVE's that were missing but finally, ran  debian/patches/001-libtool_fixes.patch and that has me building... a big old  WOOT!
[20:22] <beandog> DMASS: it's a stab in the dark, but I wonder if there's a missing kernel module
[20:22] <rhizmoe> nobody blogging about that kind of thing, that is
[20:22] <DMASS> ive done modprobe just to be sure
[20:22] <jefkin> trism: should I get you the list of all the patches I applied?
[20:23] <beandog> DMASS: well there's ones for serial devices, plus also usb
[20:23] <beandog> DMASS: anyway, I dunno.  I'm just guessing.
[20:23] <beandog> but that's the first place I'd look
[20:23] <beandog> although if you already have the /dev file, then it's probably in there.
[20:24] <beandog> DMASS: there's some apps to see what's going over the wire on USB though .. also need kernel modules, probably usb monitor at the very least.
[20:24] <DMASS> beandog:  ya, I have verified that the KEYSPAN modual is there and the usbserial as well;  thanks for the suggestion Ill take any thing right now
[20:25] <DMASS> beandog: any suggestions for a USB sniffer?
[20:25] <trism> jefkin: excellent, if you have a list available for pastebin I'd be interested in looking, but otherwise don't worry about it, happy you got it compiling
[20:27] <beandog> DMASS: no, dunno, just know that they're out there
[20:27] <beandog> DMASS: also looking at the kernel config, I'm not sure everything is in there.
[20:27] <TylerKG123> Hey
[20:27] <beandog> DMASS: lemme check something real fast ... gimme a few
[20:27] <TylerKG123> Anyone here know why my computer won't mark things as executable?
[20:27] <TylerKG123> I have the latest Xubuntu, that's all I know;
[20:28] <guntbert> DMASS: as far as I know  wireshark will sniff usb too
[20:28] <TylerKG123> I'm a Linux noob
[20:28] <beandog> DMASS: also, http://sewelldirect.com/support/usbtoserialsupportlinux.aspx maybe?
[20:28] <TylerKG123> Bean, do you know how to fix my issue?
[20:28] <ceege> snoopy is a usb sniffer
[20:28] <guntbert> !patience | TylerKG123
[20:29] <DMASS> beandog: awesome, I have not seen that page yet somehow
[20:29] <insano> Is there any conversor for rmvb video?
[20:29] <beandog> DMASS: I just googled for linux debug usb serial
[20:30] <TylerKG123> Well, Ubot and Gunt, I'm just a bit aggravated because I just can't get it to work. I've checked all the forums, and I just don't know why it doesn't work! The only program outside of Software Center I got to work is Skype.
[20:30] <DMASS> beandog: this has become one of those issues were you get sucked in to thread after thread and Im sure ive lost the forest through the trees
[20:30] <beandog> DMASS: okay, wow, I think I found a major hole here
[20:30] <beandog> DMASS: How do you feel about building your own kernel? :)
[20:31] <carly_> a
[20:31] <beandog> DMASS: need to flip on usb verbose debug messages, usb announce new devices, and a few more
[20:31] <carly_> hola
[20:31] <beandog> DMASS: at the very *least* those will give you more system output
[20:31] <insano> Is there any conversor for rmvb video?
[20:31] <DMASS> beandog: ive never done it but everybodys gotta start somewhere
[20:31] <beandog> insano: ffmpeg should do it
[20:32] <beandog> DMASS: don't let it scare you, it's not bad.
[20:32] <DMASS> beandog: thanks, ill start googling
[20:32] <beandog> DMASS: I don't now how to do it in ubuntu, but I can tell you which options to flip on
[20:32] <DMASS> yes please
[20:32] <beandog> DMASS: I'll PM yah
[20:32] <insano> beandog, I've been googling it, but I didn't found anything to convert to RMVB
[20:32] <cmake> is there a differences in man and info on a certain command or do they both access the same data ?
[20:32] <beandog> insano: oh, *to* rmvb?  I dunno
[20:33] <cmake> info diff and man diff looks to contain nothing really different
[20:33] <insano> beandog, That's the problem, I need it...
[20:34] <guntbert> cmake: often they are different, in many manpages you read "full documentation is to be found in info
[20:34] <cmake> man info  info man :)
[20:34] <insano> Other OSs have it, but Ubuntu doesn't have one
[20:35] <cmake> so info usually contains all the man page information and more. So man is just really a subset of info ?
[20:35] <insano> I've been googling it, but I didn't found anything to convert to RMVB. Anyone knows?
[20:35] <beandog> insano: windows software?
[20:36] <beandog> insano: wait, what do you mean other OSes
[20:36] <Catman012> Hello
[20:36] <guntbert> cmake: as far as I know  they are maintained separately, but I never got the hang of info :)
[20:36] <rhizmoe> s'pose i have to log out to switch DEs
[20:36] <insano> beandog, Mac OS and Windows...
[20:36] <guntbert> rhizmoe: yep
[20:36] <beandog> insano: oh, okay.  yah, use one of those I guess
[20:37] <rhizmoe> thanko
[20:37] <insano> beandog, Yeah, I'll have to do it...
[20:37] <vbn_> insano: what u looking for...?
[20:37] <cmake> is there online info docs like the linuxmanpages website
[20:37] <insano> vbn_, how to converto to rmvb...
[20:37] <vbn_> ok
[20:38] <MonkeyDust> cmake  http://linuxmanpages.com/
[20:38] <MonkeyDust> cmake  oh, you referred to that
[20:38] <cmake> yes
[20:38] <cmake> those are the man pages
[20:39] <cmake> but is there an info page website if they are truely different information
[20:39] <beandog> eh
[20:39] <beandog> what package has kernel sources
[20:39] <beandog> can't remember.
[20:39] <cmake> and which can out first man info or where they both in the old unic's versions to begin with
[20:40] <beandog> linux-image?
[20:40] <beandog> linux-source
[20:40] <beandog> there we go
[20:41] <guntbert> cmake: please keep in mind that this channel is for ubuntu support only - you may have better luck in #ubuntu-offtopic or in #linux
[20:41] <beandog> cmake: ask in #ffmpeg or #libav
[20:42] <giiker> pardon my ignorance, but does Ubuntu offers some kind of app sandboxing by default?
[20:42] <Dr_Willis> giiker:  apparmour perhaos sort of fits that definition. but its not really the same as a sandbox i guess..
[20:42] <Dr_Willis> !apparmor
[20:43] <beandog> giiker: sandbox or root jails?
[20:43] <giiker> Dr_Willis:  what about SELinux?
[20:44] <TexNixk> insano : ffmpeg has reverse-engineered suport for the .rmf real media format ... have you tried it to see if it works
[20:44] <jefkin> trism: here-> http://pastebin.com/meUwitia  and thanks a bunch for getting me pointed in the right direction!
[20:44] <giiker> beandog: sandbox, you know sandboxing for applications.
[20:44] <beandog> giiker: k just making sure
[20:44] <giiker> beandog: np thanx
[20:46] <brophat> would someting like improvements in my wifi driver get updated during a regular update?
[20:47] <kyle__> Fed and watered
[20:47] <kyle__> s/water/coffee/
[20:47] <giiker> Dr_Willis: I think you were right, apparmor is a security module for the kernel (per Wikipedia) ans SELinux (per Wi...) is a framework based inLinux Security Modules. Thanks
[20:48] <kyle__> brophat: Maybe.  Depends on if there's been an update to the kernel-driver
[20:48] <goddard> if i am logged in over ssh how can i copy files to my local machine?
[20:48] <brophat> kyle_  you know of some good docs for me to learn about all this driver stuff
[20:49] <QubitSmuggler> brophat: lions commentary on the unix operating system
[20:49] <guntbert> goddard: best use scp from your local machine
[20:49] <kyle__> brophat: About which drivers get updated?  Not really.  To understand how it all works, what QubitSmuggler said.
[20:51] <brophat> kyle__ so in the event a significant improvement in my wifi driver occurs, that will be something that gets incorporated automatically with an update? as apposed to me having to do it manually?
[20:51] <b0nghitter> how do i stop bind from logging to syslog? i googled and there is no answer except how to start logging, and "rndc querylog" which i did and it does not work
[20:51] <brophat> QubitSmuggler thanks I am gonna check it out
[20:52] <kyle__> brophat: Yes.
[20:52] <QubitSmuggler> welcome
[20:52] <b0nghitter> i used dns server during the ubuntu server install
[20:52] <b0nghitter> where does ubuntu put whatever is causing it to log to rsyslogd?
[20:53] <kyle__> b0nghitter: hint, look in /etc for anything that might be named rsyslog.
[20:53]  * kyle__ coughs /etc/rsyslog.conf
[20:53] <b0nghitter> kyle__, ive looked through /etc/rsyslog.conf, /etc/defaults/rsyslog and /etc/rsyslog.d/*.conf
[20:54] <b0nghitter> as i said, i googled and it does not say how to turn it off
[20:54] <kyle__> b0nghitter: Ooh ok.  So, what part isn't clear?
[20:54] <brophat> kyle__ yeah cause my wifi card has that imfamous rt3090 chipset, but I think with an update it got a little bit improved. But there is an entire rt2x00 project  http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page  so I am wondering what is taking so long, and also given the fact that ralink is working with linux.
[20:54] <kyle__> You want to turn off the syslog?
[20:54] <b0nghitter> ther is NOTHING about logging in any of those files
[20:54] <b0nghitter> no, read up
[20:54] <guntbert> b0nghitter: the file will be in /etc/rsyslog.d/
[20:55] <b0nghitter> i looked through /etc/rsyslog.d/ 20-ufw.conf      50-default.conf  postfix.conf
[20:55] <kyle__> b0nghitter: It's not a first match type system like you may be used to, it's a little, funky.  If you just want to turn it off, i beleive service rsyslog stop will do
[20:55] <b0nghitter> i need to stop bind flooding my syslog with bs
[20:55] <kyle__> brophat: Ugh.  Sorry dude :/
[20:56] <insano> TexNixk, how do I do that?
[20:56] <kyle__> b0nghitter: Errr, my bind logs almost nothing.. look in your config file to see if it's got verbose or debug on or somesuch
[20:56] <b0nghitter> those 3 files are the only ones in /etc/rsyslog.d/
[20:56] <b0nghitter> its set to whatever ubuntu server 12.04 does by default
[20:57] <b0nghitter> which is why im asking in here
[20:57] <kyle__> b0nghitter: Which file is it writing to?  I think it just writes to /var/log/messages unless there's a rule specified for it.
[20:57] <romy420> b0nghitter: it's in the bind config files: http://www.zytrax.com/books/dns/ch7/logging.html
[20:57] <b0nghitter>  in /var/log/syslog
[20:58] <kyle__> b0nghitter: You see, ANYTHING can write to the syslog system, and if the syslog system has a rule, it seperates those logs out to another file; if it doesn't, it puts it in the default syslog file.
[20:58] <goddard> guntbert: yea what command cause so far it doesn't work
[20:59] <brophat> kyle__ well the wifi is working satisfactorily sometimes now
[20:59] <goddard> guntbert: because i wanna copy the file using sudo
[20:59] <goddard> only root has the permissions
[21:00] <kyle__> brophat: I used to have a broadcom card with hellish issues.  I had to manually set the rate with iwcofig on the device, AFTER it connected, to make it stable.  Dunno if something like that will help you, but I remember it driving me to hock the laptop for <%60 what I paid for it when it was 2 months old.
[21:00] <b0nghitter> romy420, the first thing i did was look through /etc/bind/named.conf, /etc/bind/named.conf.local, and /etc/bind/named.conf.options
[21:00] <margo> Hi. Can anybody recommend an online tutorial/page to get started with python programming?
[21:00] <guntbert> goddard: in that case I'd copy the file on the server into my home dir and then comes scp
[21:01] <kyle__> b0nghitter: Is there anything in /etc/defaults for it?
[21:01] <Boogeyman> why the hell is the random in Rhythmbox anythimg but random?
[21:01] <kyle__> Boogeyman: Prove it's not random
[21:01] <brophat> kyle__ nothing worse than a shitty wifi driver
[21:01] <ejv> anyone here good with iptables? trying to remove this rule with: sudo iptables -D INPUT 1, and it does nothing: 1       36  4316 DROP       all  --  *      *       192.168.1.100        0.0.0.0/0
[21:01] <kyle__> Boogeyman: Sorry, that's a troll math question :) But not using rhythmbox I've not seen it.
[21:02] <Boogeyman> of course i'm exagerating, but out of 10,000+ songs, i've heard quite a few of them multiple times, and it seems to like to play the same bands/compilations
[21:03] <b0nghitter> /etc/defaults/rsyslogd only has RSYSLOGD_OPTIONS="-c5", and /etc/defaults/bind9 has RESOLVCONF=no, and OPTIONS="-u bind"
[21:03] <brophat> kyle__ yeah cause there is no such thing as random bwahahahah
[21:03] <kyle__> b0nghitter: what about for bind or named?
[21:03] <goddard> guntbert: ahh ok
[21:03] <brophat> or at least can't be generated by humans
[21:03] <kyle__> Ooh, nevermind, reread.
[21:04] <b0nghitter> no, only /etc/defaults/bind9
[21:04] <insano> I've been googling it, but I didn't found anything to convert to RMVB. Anyone knows?
[21:04] <kyle__> brophat: You have to watch a sequence forever to see if it repeats.
[21:04] <kyle__> b0nghitter: how quickly are the logs growing?  Slow enough a logrotate entry would fix it?
[21:04] <brophat> kyle__ humans can not create a true random generator
[21:05] <brophat> the best humans can do is create a very non predictable generator
[21:05] <kyle__> brophat: when we were dating, my wife had a "white noise" machine.  It had a random period of something like 14 minutes, and damnit, if it didn't ALWAYS wake me up when it started to repeat.
[21:05] <brophat> haha ok
[21:05] <QubitSmuggler> lol
[21:06] <TexNixk> insano : did you notice my earlier post ?
[21:06] <TexNixk> about ffmpeg ?
[21:06] <b0nghitter> its clobbering the syslog with "query (cache) 'blah.com/A/IN' denied and reverse lookups
[21:07] <insano> TexNixk, yeah, how do I do that?
[21:07] <insano> TexNixk, I google it, but found nothing
[21:07] <TexNixk> ffmpeg is open source software ... you can just google it
[21:08] <guntbert> brophat: back to ubuntu support please
[21:08] <kyle__> b0nghitter: Does this help? http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-enable-dns-linux-unix-server-logging/
[21:08] <TexNixk> i believe sourceforge hosts it
[21:08] <TexNixk> it's multi platform
[21:08] <insano> TexNixk, I have it installed
[21:08] <b0nghitter> that was one of my google results, which is where i got rndc querylog from
[21:08] <kyle__> b0nghitter: Ahh.
[21:09] <romy420> b0nghitter: this page contains info for configuring bind's log level: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto
[21:09] <insano> TexNixk, I tried to use it to converto to rmvb, but it didnt work
[21:09] <mint> hi
[21:09] <TexNixk> ok ... try ffmpeg -i inputFile.ext -sameq outFile.ext
[21:09] <mint> can anyone help me setting up a parititon?
[21:10] <TexNixk> where inputFile is the file youwant to eonvert & outFile is the name you want for the output
[21:10] <TexNixk> use .rmf for the file extension of the rmvb file
[21:11] <b0nghitter> romy420, that was another one of my google results, and i looked through the named.conf named.conf.local and named.conf.options files, neither of them contain anything about logging
[21:11] <b0nghitter> which i expected to see at least somewhere
[21:11] <XiRoN> Hi how, can I check the file owners of a specific folder
[21:11] <romy420> maybe u have to add it, although it should be there, that's right
[21:12] <TexNixk> rmvb is similar to the mpeg4 10 format sillar to x264
[21:12] <mint> can anyone help me setting up partitions?  i'm at the partition screen for the installer...
[21:12] <guntbert> XiRoN: ls -l /path/to folder shows the files,  ls -ld /path/to/folder shows the folder
[21:12] <Zeerover> Could I have help, theres 3 web browsers i want to try out Web (Epiphany), Links, and Midori. Could any of you help me figure out how to install them under a .deb file?
[21:12] <insano> TexNixk, OK, let me try it
[21:13] <Dr_Willis> Zeerover:  if they are not in the repos. find a PPA for them.
[21:13] <adee> mint: create a root partition and a swap
[21:13] <Dr_Willis> !info links
[21:13] <Zeerover> Dr_Wills I cant even find the download links for them
[21:13] <Dr_Willis> !info midori
[21:13] <Dr_Willis> Zeerover:  no need to.. use the pacakge manager...
[21:14] <Zeerover> Be right back I have to take the garbage
[21:14] <guntbert> Zeerover: try links2 instead· it is in the repos too
[21:14] <Dr_Willis> Zeerover:  this is not like windows where yoi just download instllers. ;)
[21:14] <b0nghitter> ahhhhh, i guess i should have read the small print... "If no logging option is configured for the default option is: "
[21:14] <insano> TexNixk, http://pastebin.com/r1zugqYP
[21:14] <Zeerover> guntbert i meant to say Links2, thank you though
[21:15] <mint> AdedioR: no idea, what root is, im new
[21:15] <SolarisB1y> hey guntbert hows it going man
[21:15] <b0nghitter> i have to add a logging section in named.conf.local
[21:15] <romy420> b0nghitter: then i was guessing right :) just add what u need
[21:15] <QubitSmuggler> root is the highest level of priviledge
[21:15] <b0nghitter> yes, ty for your patience
[21:16] <insano> TexNixk, It does not recognize the output format
[21:17] <TexNixk> insano instead of .rmvb use .rmf ... i think that's the registered extension for rmvb content
[21:17] <oXis> I have a problem
[21:17] <Dr_Willis> why would you need rmvb or rmf these dayas?
[21:17] <oXis> Help
[21:18] <QubitSmuggler> what is it/
[21:18] <oXis> I have an hp dv5 laptop with media touch keys
[21:18] <insano> TexNixk, I tried rmf and didnt work, so I tried rm and it worked.
[21:18] <insano> TexNixk, But give an error
[21:18] <adee> mint: than Google it... and next time write my name instead of AdedioR...
[21:18] <oXis> everything went great until I updated the drivers
[21:18] <oXis> now the sound is always changing
[21:19] <TexNixk> yeah Dr_Willis has a point ... rmvb is about the same as x264 ... & x264 is the thing now days
[21:19] <oXis> I don't know how to explain it
[21:19] <oXis> the black sound box is always appears and disturbing me
[21:19] <QubitSmuggler> nothing else, no spills or anything
[21:19] <oXis> How do I fix it?
[21:20] <romy420> mint: will ubuntu be your only operating system? or is windows there too?
[21:20] <insano> Dr_Willis, adobe pdf can handle videos , right? But in linux, it's the only format that it can handle.
[21:20] <Dr_Willis> pdf videos?
[21:21] <oXis> help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[21:21] <oXis> plzzzz
[21:21] <zykotick9> insano: embedding videos in pdf seems insane to me...
[21:21] <mint> should the boot partition be ext2 or 4?
[21:21] <insano> Dr_Willis, TexNixk I'm making a presentation in beamer, so I need to make it play the video during the presentation
[21:21] <Zeerover> alright im back
[21:21] <bekks> mint: It doesnt matter, basically.
[21:21] <insano> zykotick9, yeah, that's my nickname
[21:21] <QubitSmuggler> oxis i have no idea, look for new drivers
[21:21] <adee> mint: ext4, never use ext2 nowdays
[21:21] <oXis> where?
[21:22] <adee> bekks: journaling... yes, it matters
[21:22] <oXis> I can't change the volume
[21:22] <mint> adee: ive read that journaling is not good for boot partition?
[21:22] <zykotick9> adee: actually ssd drives are a good ext2 use case
[21:22] <romy420> mint: ext2 is a bit safer
[21:22] <beandog> mint: that's true.  you don't need it.
[21:22] <romy420> for /boot !
[21:22] <bekks> adee: How often does /boot change, and which amount of data is changed there? It doesnt matter :)
[21:22] <adee> mint: SSD? HDD?
[21:22] <mint> hdd, mechanical
[21:22] <insano> Latex beamer make the output file in pdf, so I've no option.
[21:22] <Zeerover> im running ubuntu 11.04 do any of you know how to get Midori, Epiphany, and links2 browsers on my PC?
[21:23] <adee> bekks: but when it changes and something happens, you have to fsck......
[21:23] <dankest> How do I transfer my SSL keys from one apache server to another?
[21:23] <guntbert> Zeerover: sudo apt-get install midori epiphany links2
[21:23] <zykotick9> Zeerover: "sudo apt-get midori ephipahy links2" maybe?
[21:23] <zykotick9> guntbert: lol - fail on my part ;)
[21:23] <Zeerover> Thank you guys
[21:24] <Dr_Willis> i cant recall ever seeing a PDF file with embeded videos...
[21:24] <bekks> adee: The same thing applies to a journaled filesystem - you have to fsck after replaying the journal.
[21:24] <romy420> mint: will ubuntu be your only operating system? or is windows there too?
[21:24] <adee> zykotick9: ext2 is never a good choice in 2012, in SSD use btrfs
[21:24] <Dr_Willis> Zeerover:  the software-center should be fairly easy to figure out.
[21:24] <Dr_Willis> !manual | Zeerover
[21:24] <TexNixk> insano : let me give it a try ... brb
[21:24] <zykotick9> adee: vtrfs you're funny
[21:24] <Zeerover> Thank you so much Dr__Willis
[21:25] <bekks> adee: btrfs does not have a reasonable stable fsck. :)
[21:25] <zykotick9> bekks: +1
[21:25] <adee> bekks: reasonable?
[21:25] <insano> TexNixk, OK
[21:25] <bekks> adee: And still, you can kill your btrfs when filling it up to 100%. 'nuff said for disabling it as an alternative to ext4.
[21:26] <zykotick9> bekks: +2
[21:26] <bekks> adee: The fsck code for btrfs is highly experimental.
[21:26] <adee> zykotick9: vtrfs? funny...
[21:26] <zykotick9> adee: that's called a typo
[21:27] <adee> bekks: i'm not sure that's true anymore.
[21:27] <mint> after i make a boot parition the rest is greyed out? it wont let me make any more paritions
[21:28] <adee> mint: probably used up all your free space?
[21:28] <romy420> i guess he did
[21:28] <bekks> adee: Unless it is called "rock stable" by the kernel devs, I'd not call it "stable" or recommend it to others.
[21:28] <mint> adee: no, i have a 600gb
[21:28] <mint> i see 318021MB free space
[21:28] <Zeerover> Wow, when i got Links 2 i though i'd get more of a UI but i dont know how to search a page on it, so im going to read a tutorial
[21:28] <Zeerover> bye
[21:29] <Guest76280> speaking spanish
[21:29] <mint> should ive created a new parition table along side my windows one?
[21:29] <mint> im making these paritions under the same table as 3 windows partions
[21:29] <bekks> mint: You cant create multiple partition tables. :)
[21:30] <mint> derp
[21:30] <adee> bekks: Oracle released the new Unbreakable L. where it supports it... on big production servers
[21:30] <guntbert> !es | Guest76280
[21:30] <bekks> adee: THEY support it, no one else in the world does that without endangered by heavy firearms.
[21:30] <mint> so what the heck... is there any order which the partions need to be made in?
[21:31] <mint> all i did was create a primary boot partitons @ begining location with ext2
[21:31] <adee> bekks: I use it since Linux 3.4 on several systems and it survived USB-stick-root unplugs and resets many times....
[21:31] <mint> mount point set as /boot , and now cant create any more partitions
[21:31] <Boogeyman> ok, in xchat, the green ball next to the nick is ops, whats a red ball?
[21:32] <QubitSmuggler> admin
[21:32] <mint> anyone?
[21:32] <Boogeyman> thanks
[21:33] <QubitSmuggler> mint, how many partitions do you have?
[21:33] <mint> QubitSmuggler: 3 ntfs
[21:34] <adee> mint: how many primarys you have? 4?
[21:34] <zymaster> Hey guys I have a question that's a little off topic and really involves a network setup and not that much to do with ubuntu. So anyway I am going to get a couple public ips from my isp. I'm considering doing it this  way. I will have a line coming straight into my modem. My modem will have two outputs. One going into an ethernet switch, and one going into a wireless router. The wireless router will run my home network and will use 
[21:34] <mint> AdedioR: i believe only 1 in windows
[21:34] <QubitSmuggler> mint you can only have 4 primary partitions
[21:34] <adee> mint: is it hard to use my name in a reply?
[21:35] <zymaster> The ethernet switch will then go into my servers. They will all be running ip tables as a firewall and have their own public ip. I am curious will this work? and will iptables provide a sufficient enough firewall for each server
[21:35] <Dr_Willis> mint:  look at fdisk -l output to be sure.
[21:35] <adee> mint: give us the exact partition numbers and types please....
[21:35] <alankila> zymaster: someone has to say this, so your first message was cut around the irc 500 character limits at 'wireless oruter will run my home network and will use'.
[21:35] <guntbert> zymaster: this is definitely the wrong channel - try ##networking  maybe?
[21:36] <mint> AdedioR: what do you mean numbers? the sizes?
[21:36] <mint> adee: what do you mean numbers? the sizes?
[21:36] <zymaster> ok thanks guntbert I always end up with questions that i cant figure out which channel to ask them in. (:
[21:36] <zymaster> channel ##networking
[21:36] <adee> mint: how many & primary/extended
[21:36] <QubitSmuggler> zymaster, pm
[21:37] <zymaster> forgot / ):
[21:37] <mint> adee: it doesnt show, i would have to look in windows i think
[21:37] <mint> adee: is there any way in terminal to check?
[21:37] <adee> mint: fdisk, cfdisk or some other partitioner should tell
[21:38] <adee> i'm sure that crappy Buguntu installer won't show that
[21:38] <andrewx> theres a command to paginate text: 'cat text | page' but its not called page, what is it?
[21:38] <romy420> mint: u may want to go one step back in the setup and choose the automatic install 'side by side' with windows
[21:38] <Dr_Willis> mint:  'fdisk -l'
[21:38] <klj613> is it possible to install skype via command line in a stable way? (put in a script for whenever i need it). google isn't being friendly atm
[21:39] <mint> romy420: i tried that last time, but it didnt let me specify the size of the partition...
[21:39] <guntbert> andrewx: less
[21:39] <zykotick9> zymaster: does /channel work?  i use /join or /j
[21:39] <andrewx> don't think so...
[21:39] <mint> Rommeras: it made a 300gb linux install
[21:39] <romy420> i see
[21:39] <baba_> hii
[21:39] <mint> Dr_Willis: im not in windows
[21:39] <Dr_Willis> andrewx:  you mean put a form feed every 80 lines?
[21:39] <andrewx> that slows me down to one-line-@-a-time
[21:39] <Dr_Willis> mint:  fdisk -l is NOT a windows command...
[21:39] <andrewx> that would be nice :)
[21:40] <DanielHoffman> does anybody know how to set up a username/password system in squid3?
[21:40] <mint> Dr_Willis: well it doesnt work in terminal
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> run it as root... sudo fdisk -l
[21:40] <zykotick9> andrewx: less or more?
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> pastebin the output..
[21:40] <TexNixk> insano : ffmpeg works fine for the older rm formats but does'nt seem to support the newer rmvb format
[21:40] <qwetna> strange issue with ubuntu and ssh...  I cant find a reason this is happening or a fix so I throw it out to you guys
[21:41] <xinbenlv> hello
[21:41] <andrewx> less, more both single-line you
[21:41] <xinbenlv> this is the first time
[21:41] <mint> Dr_Willis: http://pastebin.com/B95GiYiw
[21:41] <qwetna> i have loaded up 12.04 and now when I ssh from that box to an external unit the connection closes without even a key exchange
[21:41] <xinbenlv> i use irc
[21:41] <qwetna> any thoughts?
[21:41] <zymaster> zykotic it doesn't I just keep forgetting commands
[21:41] <beandog> qwetna: ssh -vvv
[21:41] <DanielHoffman> reinstall ssh?
[21:41] <insano> TexNixk, its OK
[21:41] <xinbenlv> hello
[21:41] <mongy> TexNixk, tried compiling latest?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=786095  easy peasy
[21:41] <TexNixk> i've found several references on mencoder being able to support rmvb ... but i'm not using mencoder
[21:42] <zykotick9> andrewx: but don't use cat unsecarity.. "less /path/to/file"
[21:42] <xinbenlv> qwetna: hey
[21:42] <qwetna> ok i got an output for the -vvv
[21:42] <qwetna> i assume you dont want it pasted in the window
[21:42] <zykotick9> !tab | zymaster
[21:42] <insano> TexNixk, where can I found it?
[21:42] <xinbenlv> exit
[21:42] <beandog> qwetna: no, look at it, should give you clues
[21:43] <jmrog> qwetna: You cant put it up on a pastebin, too.
[21:43] <jmrog> can
[21:44] <guntbert> andrewx: 'less' definetely doesn't "single line" you - it is the better 'more'
[21:44] <qwetna> pastebin: http://pastebin.com/kUPX2tbP
[21:44] <TexNixk> insano : just a sec ...
[21:45] <andrewx> I want da entire file! but screen-@-a-time
[21:45] <zykotick9> andrewx: s/unsecarity/unnecessarily/ sorry brain-fart
[21:45] <bekks> andrewx: press enter being in less.
[21:45] <andrewx> ugh.
[21:45] <zykotick9> andrewx: up down arrow in less!
[21:46] <bekks> andrewx: Then use space instead :)
[21:46] <andrewx> Can't a clever person make a script that would screen-inate a text file?
[21:46] <andrewx> anywho.. thanx
[21:46] <zymaster> Oh thanks ubottu
[21:47] <qwetna> nothing jumps out at me as partcularly wrong.... thoughts?
[21:48] <guntbert> andrewx: use pgdn/pgup in 'less'
[21:48] <beandog> qwetna: me neither.  could be dropbear dropping you for some reason, check the config options
[21:48] <andrewx> Ah...
[21:48] <insano> TexNixk, I got an example from a forum
[21:48] <andrewx> Thanks.
[21:48] <insano> It worked
[21:49] <insano> TexNixk, thanks a lot
[21:49] <jmrog> qwetna: You've connected via ssh prior to upgrading to 12.04?
[21:49] <qwetna> correct
[21:49] <qwetna> i was on 10.04 and it worked fine
[21:49] <jmrog> qwetna: How did you upgrade?
[21:49] <qwetna> a clean wipe
[21:49] <insano> But if you found something better let me know
[21:49] <mint> anyone know how to move the screen picture?  my desktop is cuttoff in the corner?
[21:49] <qwetna> so less upgrade and more reinstall
[21:49] <jmrog> qwetna: And how were you authenticating on the ssh server previously?
[21:49] <insano> TexNixk, But if you found something better let me know
[21:50] <TexNixk> insano : great ... hope all goes well from here
[21:50]  * NictraSavios thinks that when we have to ask "How did you upgrade", It means that someone should spend a few months making upgrade actually work...
[21:50] <insano> TexNixk, so do I
[21:50] <andrewx> yeah, perfect,lol.
[21:50] <jmrog> NictraSavios: No argument there!
[21:51] <zykotick9> NictraSavios: with a 6 month release cycle - that's impossible...
[21:51] <qwetna> username and password with standard key exchange
[21:51] <qwetna> nothing special
[21:52] <beandog> qwetna: whats the dropbear config look like on the server
[21:52] <qwetna> see thats the tricky part.. its a wireless device and not a configurable server so i dont know
[21:52] <beandog> ??
[21:52] <beandog> whose server is it?
[21:52] <beandog> do you have rights to admin it?
[21:53] <NictraSavios> zykotick9, Why not? We upgrade packages all the time. What exactly goes wrong with the big updates? Whatever the specific issue is should be fixed.
[21:53] <qwetna> it is a wimax device and i dont really have admin rights to it
[21:53] <zykotick9> NictraSavios: don't upgrade - problem solved...
[21:53] <beandog> oh so it's running as embedded
[21:53] <qwetna> correct
[21:53] <beandog> I dunno then
[21:53] <qwetna> its a radio on a chip
[21:53] <qwetna> with you
[21:53] <NictraSavios> zykotick9, Impossible for a modern operating system.
[21:53] <qwetna> unfortuantly they swear its not their device that is doing it
[21:54] <beandog> the server isn't giving much information on what's happening
[21:54] <zykotick9> NictraSavios: not all "modern" OSes have this issue
[21:54] <beandog> qwetna: you could try using dropbear's ssh client
[21:54] <NictraSavios> zykotick9, Because not all modern OS's are made by free software developers
[21:54] <NictraSavios> zykotick9, The ones that are usually face issues like this due to their small development teams.
[21:55] <zykotick9> NictraSavios: lol ubuntu isn't even close to free...  <OT> best of luck with your issue
[21:55] <davidgilmour> Hello, I've just added this line to the crontab. */5 * * * * "php /opt/bitnami/apps/wordpress/htdocs/checksales/index.php". However it seems the task is not running every 5 minutes at all. Any ideas?
[21:55] <beandog> not even close to free?  Sir, you are mistaken.
[21:55] <beandog> that or trolling.
[21:55] <guntbert> NictraSavios: back to support please :)
[21:55] <qwetna> works fine with putty on a RDP but we tend to use ssh to get into the networks because it is lightweight enough to work on a cell phone when you are mobile
[21:55] <qwetna> but thank you for your help
[21:55] <NictraSavios> zykotick9, Really? I downloaded it.. seemed free. OH your a Gnutard. Pfft, good luck with al of your issues.
[21:55] <scisteffan> Hello, where would be the best place to ask about setting up nameservers and an email server on ubuntu?
[21:55] <NictraSavios> guntbert, Okay :D
[21:56] <beandog> qwetna: you gonna try dropbear?
[21:56] <qwetna> probably will yes
[21:56] <beandog> kk
[21:56] <beandog> good luck
[21:56] <beandog> try putty if that doesnt work
[21:56] <qwetna> dumb quetison but putty doesnt have a command line interface does it?
[21:57] <beandog> uh
[21:57] <beandog> don't remember
[21:57] <qwetna> if I can avoid a gui im going to
[21:57] <kyle__> scisteffan: Those are both fairly streightforward, no different than any other distro.  Are you just looking for a caching DNS server, one for your internal network, or one to serve as the primary dns for a domain?
[21:57] <qwetna> again thanks.  you gave me a starting point.
[21:57] <zykotick9> qwetna: are you using putty on a gnu/linux host?  if so - don't.
[21:57] <qwetna> zykotick9 no i'm not
[21:57] <qwetna> dont worry
[21:57] <zykotick9> qwetna: k
[21:57] <qwetna> trouble is command line ssh isnt working right now
[21:58] <taymaz> hi guys! :D
[21:58] <taymaz> I finally switched back again from Kubuntu
[21:58] <NictraSavios> qwetna, I may be able to help. I ssh into my home server everyday
[21:58] <taymaz> Just wanted to say Unity has so far not annoyed the f*ck out of me within 15min. Going strong! :D
[21:59] <NictraSavios> qwetna, Do you get any specific errors or have you modified the /etc/ssh/ssh.conf file?
[21:59] <qwetna> nictra check out this pastebin: http://pastebin.com/kUPX2tbP
[21:59] <scisteffan> kyle__ - a primary dns for a domain - steffanharris.co.uk
[21:59] <guntbert> !language | taymaz
[21:59] <qwetna> and no its a standard ssh config
[21:59] <jmrog> davidgilmour: Why is the command in quotes?
[21:59] <romy420> qwetna, maybe someone changed the pw? look here u should update dropbear after u manage to log in: http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/15923/discuss
[22:00] <kyle__> scisteffan: If you install bind, you can then follow any online tutorial for a public name server.  Doesn't have to be ubuntu specific.
[22:00] <kyle__> scisteffan: It's actually pretty easy.
[22:00] <qwetna> password did not change i know that
[22:00] <NictraSavios> qwetna, It dosen't actually look like your at fault. The server your connecting to isn't reply properly and its protocol seems to be outdated...
[22:00] <taymaz> sorry guntbert
[22:01] <davidgilmour> jmrog: I just deleted the quotes, going to try now
[22:01] <qwetna> the interaction doesnt even get past the key exchange... actually the key exchange doesnt even happen
[22:01] <NictraSavios> qwetna, How long as it been since you last connected to it? I noticed you said its the upgrade that made it it not work but... a lot of time has passed between 10.10 and 12.04
[22:01] <romy420> but it's a vulnerable dropbeear version, this was my first google search hit ... just sayin',
[22:01] <qwetna> true
[22:01] <qwetna> i just reinstalled 12.04 from a 10.04 lts server
[22:02] <qwetna> thats why there is a jump there
[22:02] <qwetna> i wanted to get on the latest LTS
[22:02] <qwetna> thats when it broke
[22:02] <jafer> Guys, I have a question about ubuntu
[22:02] <qwetna> is there any way to "backdate" the 12.04 ssh to make it compatible?
[22:02] <NictraSavios> qwetna, Oh I see now.. you upgraded the server and now connecting to it fails.
[22:02] <qwetna> yep you got it
[22:02] <jafer> I read a guide about installing java on http://www.googlehammer.com
[22:02] <jafer> and it's not working
[22:03] <NictraSavios> qwetna, Well that's not really a good idea as the upgrade's were made for a reason... usually security.
[22:03] <jafer> Any idea?
[22:03] <qwetna> i understand that
[22:03] <pearlbear> best place for giving info about how ubuntu works on specific hardware (desktop, laptop, etc.)? It seems scattered around the web.
[22:03] <qwetna> like i said though this is a wimax unit that i cannot update
[22:03] <uni4dfx> Is there something like an image that I could burn on a CD to execute a PXE boot?
[22:03] <qwetna> i can put in the feature request, but it will take a while for it go through so i need a stopgap til then
[22:03] <NictraSavios> qwetna, Why don't you just use the default ubuntu ssh server package?
[22:03] <qwetna> i am
[22:04] <romy420> qwetna: right
[22:04] <qwetna> i dont control the remote side
[22:04] <livingdaylight> hi, can someone help me with installing a ppa?
[22:04] <NictraSavios> qwetna, Well it seems the remote side is the problem, and not your side. Try contacting the hosts admin
[22:05] <qwetna> like i said i will but i need a stopgap til they fix it.  is there any way to make a 12.04 ssh client act like the 10.04 one did?
[22:06] <jafer> I read a guide about installing java on http://www.googlehammer.com
[22:06] <jafer> and it's not working
[22:06] <jafer> Any idea?
[22:06] <FloodBot1> jafer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:08] <livingdaylight> if sudo add-apt-repository ppa: package_name is the command line how do I adapt  deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/pinta-maintainers/pinta-stable/ubuntu precise main  to that command line?
[22:08] <NictraSavios> qwetna, Hmm... Ugh. I'm not going to go on hunches and bs even thought I have a few clues It's honestly over my head. I know its a problem with the keys but I really can't say any specifics
[22:08] <NictraSavios> qwetna, This is a shot in the dark... try installing the "hashalot" package.
[22:09] <qwetna> i may give it a whack.  thank you again.
[22:11]  * NictraSavios Heh Heh. SmellyCat :P
[22:12] <klj613> how to un-sudo? (sudo -s)
[22:12] <SmellyCat> Hi NictraSavios :)
[22:12] <davidgilmour> I still can't get my cronjob to work.. could it be a permission issue? As I have no root access
[22:12] <NictraSavios> klj613, exit
[22:12] <NictraSavios> klj613, the command, exit
[22:13] <klj613> lol
[22:13] <Murd0ck> off topic link?
[22:13] <klj613> thanks
[22:13] <r0tha> Is anyone familiar with how /dev/console works?
[22:13] <jmrog> davidgilmour: Does the job show up when you type crontab -l?
[22:13] <NictraSavios> r0tha, I am :D. F
[22:14] <davidgilmour> jmrog: yes
[22:14] <r0tha> NictraSavios: i'm working on some rsyslog stuff and i've noticed that /dev/console shows up in /var/log/rsyslog.conf
[22:14] <aaa801> How can i delete the unpartioned space in a full disk image
[22:14] <jmrog> davidgilmour: And can you run the command manually as your non-root user?
[22:14] <r0tha> not sure how it all works......care to explain?
[22:14] <SmellyCat> aaa801, delete as in overwrite (with zero's for example?)
[22:15] <aaa801> SmellyCat: delete as in get rid of, its a raw disk rip
[22:15] <r0tha> i'm just now trying to put all the pieces together.......normally i didn't worry about kernel versions but at this point they sound somewhat important
[22:15] <genii-around> aaa801: You can run partionint programs on a disk image the same as if it was the dis itself
[22:15] <davidgilmour> jmrog: yes, i'm over ssh and it works
[22:15] <genii-around> Bleh, typos. But you get the gist.
[22:15] <aaa801> genii-around: but would that let me get rid of the unpartioned data
[22:16] <NictraSavios> r0tha, Well, that means that whatever the output is refering to came from a virtual console as /dev/console is part of the virtual console system
[22:16] <davidgilmour> jmrog: this is the line: */5 * * * * php /opt/bitnami/apps/wordpress/htdocs/checksales/index.php
[22:17] <NictraSavios> r0tha, It is, simply, the 'terminal'. The current, open terminal.
[22:17] <r0tha> 64 virtual consoles..
[22:17] <genii-around> aaa801: I can run for instance: sudo fdisk diskimage.img      and then delete partitons in that image, make new partitions, etc. So  the answer is yes.
[22:17] <aaa801> genii-around: il give it a go
[22:18] <jmrog> davidgilmour: Maybe try putting the command with its argument into a script and then executing the script as a cronjob?
[22:18] <jmrog> davidgilmour: Just to eliminate the space after 'php'
[22:18] <davidgilmour> jmrog: hmm... will try a sh script
[22:18] <meLon> What is the recommended method of providing dual-head support to Ubuntu?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/885989
[22:20] <CyberGabber> hmm, installatiedatum terugvinden zou kunnen kloppen via: ls -al /var/log/installer/syslog
[22:20] <SmellyCat> davidgilmour, it shouldn't be necessary to place that command in a script. The command runs fine from the command line I presume?
[22:20] <jmrog> davidgilmour: If that doesn't work, you might try supplying the full path for php. Everything else about the crontab looks right
[22:22] <Nakkel> How do I get HP un2400 (Gobi 1000) WWAN modem to work on 12.04? dmesg shows that drivers are loaded and the device attaches to /dev/ttyUSB0 but after few seconds it disconnects the device and just dissapears from the system.
[22:22] <ThePendulum> He
[22:22] <ThePendulum> *Hey
[22:22] <ThePendulum> I hid the program shutter, but how do I get it back up?
[22:22] <usr13> davidgilmour: What is the command?
[22:22] <jmrog> davidgilmour: I'm also assuming that you've verified that cron is actually running on the system...? :)
[22:23] <aaa801> genii-around: theres no option in fdisk to delete unpartioned data
[22:23] <usr13> davidgilmour: You know you can test cronjobs.  Right?
[22:24] <ThePendulum> davidgilmour: I love you already
[22:24] <usr13> davidgilmour: Never mind, I see it.
[22:25] <DanielHoffman> does anybody know how to log into squid that is using NCSA? (any login system would work but i have a NCSA already set up)?
[22:25] <genii-around> aaa801: Your original question was: How can i delete the unpartioned space in a full disk image    ... so then the question becomes: Did you want to make the unpartitioned space part of another adjacent partition which does contain data? Or are you looking at some other thing like removing that partition from the image somehow and making the file smaller?
[22:26] <white_magic> anyone know how I can successfully install [Python IDE] IDLE version 3.2 under Ubuntu 10.04?
[22:26] <aaa801> the latter
[22:26] <ThePendulum> Does anyone know how to unhide Shutter, I'd like to reconfigurei t
[22:26] <ThePendulum> *reconfigure it
[22:26] <halo> how to set the brightness of ubuntu 12.04 to a fixed value
[22:26] <halo> ?
[22:28] <genii-around> aaa801: Thats a bit trickier then.
[22:28] <bz> enough of this
[22:29] <aaa801> genii-around: is there a way =/
[22:30] <SmellyCat> aaa801, Is the unpartitioned space at the end of the disk-image?
[22:30] <aaa801> yes
[22:30] <genii-around> aaa801: There may be. Since there is a way to know the offset within the file in order to mount one of the internal partitions as this page shows: http://madduck.net/blog/2006.10.20:loop-mounting-partitions-from-a-disk-image/
[22:31] <DanielHoffman> how would i configure a login system in ubuntu?
[22:31] <DanielHoffman> with squid3
[22:31] <SmellyCat> aaa801, Using 'dd' you could write the part that contains data to an other image. The tricky part is to find the exact position where the last partition ends
[22:32] <SmellyCat> aaa801, Don't know for sure but maybe dd-ing the first 512 bytes plus each partition separately (in order) to the same (new image-) file would work.
[22:34] <jmrog> davidgilmour: Any luck?
[22:34] <mint> what is ideal swap size for 4gb?
[22:35] <halo> 4 gb ram doesn't need swap
[22:35] <jmrog> mint: Unless you're planning to hibernate
[22:35] <scisteffan> kyle__ - thanks, I've got that set up already. How do I go about receiving mail on my domain name?
[22:35] <klj613> some reason i made swap for 8GB ram size... cant remember why. maybe just incase :p lol
[22:36] <romy420> mint: something around 6gb
[22:36] <halo> then delete it
[22:36] <mint> jmrog: someone was telling me 256mb for 4gb, said it will force more things to run in ram and give faster performance
[22:36] <mint> 6gb swap!
[22:36] <mint> wowzer
[22:36] <SmellyCat> mint, halo, I think 4Gb needs swap if you want to enable hibernate
[22:36] <scisteffan> kyle__ -  do I need postfix, which ports would require forwarding?
[22:36] <halo> yeah but 6 gb swap is too much
[22:36] <cjz> :( i screwed up my /etc/sudoers file so now i cant sudo to fix it
[22:36] <klj613> if ram is free. does it still use swap and make it slow? or only use swap when required?
[22:36] <adee> mint: do you need hibernate?
[22:36] <jmrog> mint Never heard that before. But as SmellyCat and I mentioned, you do need swap if you want to hibernate
[22:36] <romy420> ram* 1.5 i think is approbriate yes
[22:37] <NictraSavios> mint, Well the traditional rule is swap = ram. In truth, You do not need that much. The kernel will compress your image down to very little
[22:37] <jmrog> romy420: That rule is not applicable to larger RAM sizes.
[22:37] <mint> i dont use hibernate, i do use suspend
[22:37] <romy420> there are programs that can fill my 12gb all by themselves
[22:37] <jmrog> romy420: Those programs must have bugs
[22:37] <NictraSavios> mint, Check your system monitor while your system is idle. That number times 2 should be more than enough.
[22:38] <NictraSavios> mint, well if you don't hibernate, you don't need swap. at all.
[22:38] <jmrog> romy420: Unless you are doing something extremely, extremely out of the ordinary
[22:38] <scisteffan> nvm, found a good tutorial for that..
[22:38] <NictraSavios> mint, What he said &
[22:38] <NictraSavios> ^*
[22:39] <mint> nick_h: i heard if you run out of ram it will crash your system with no swap
[22:39] <NictraSavios> mint, You heard wrong.
[22:39] <romy420> ok, depends ... but why would u not want to hibernate?
[22:39] <NictraSavios> mint, It will just slow down.
[22:39] <NictraSavios> romy420 Because suspending is 5 times faster...
[22:39] <codingman> ^
[22:39] <codingman> I never use hibernate
[22:40] <mint> honestly, i dont even know how to hibernate lol
[22:40] <NictraSavios> Hibernation is just a reboot without post for all its worth.
[22:40] <codingman> then forget about it :p
[22:40] <grendal> ok i found a package for s3fs (amazon s3 buckets)  but it is only for luscid..
[22:40] <grendal>  im using 12.04  is it ok to add this ppa to my source files?
[22:40] <mint> f'it we'll do it live!
[22:40] <NictraSavios> grendal, It won't work :P
[22:40] <romy420> i would test .. if it will ever work with an encrypted root :)
[22:40] <jmrog> mint: lol
[22:40] <NictraSavios> mint, EPIC RAP BATTLES OF HISTORY!
[22:40] <mint> lol
[22:41] <NictraSavios> mint,  RICHARD STALMAN VERUUUS LIINUX TORRVALDS! Begin!
[22:41] <NictraSavios> Linus*
[22:41] <mint> lol
[22:41] <genii-around> !ot | NictraSavios
[22:41] <grendal> NictraSavios, not a very nice way to stat a conversation
[22:41] <NictraSavios> genii-around, Sorry... I get carried away.
[22:41] <genii-around> NictraSavios: np
[22:42] <NictraSavios> grendal, Huh? What do you mean. Adding a repo with only package for luicd will give you a 404 when you update your package database
[22:42] <mint> so i guess i'm just going with a / partition and /home
[22:42] <vicium\a> Doesn't ' useradd NAME -p PASSWORD -m cut it?
[22:43] <NictraSavios> vicium\a, If you don't want access to anything and your fine with no home directory... sure.
[22:43] <grendal> NictraSavios, what if i just download the package directly and install it
[22:43] <jmrog> NictraSavios: -m creates the home directory, doesn't it?
[22:43] <vicium\a> Hmm.. My intention is to create a user for myselves so I dont sit in root all the time..
[22:43] <vicium\a> Just bought a VPS for educational purposes
[22:44] <NictraSavios> grendal, Then you will probably have dependency problems and it won't install... Why don't you look at why the software isn't available for precise. There is probably a better alternative
[22:44] <vicium\a> aha adduser was much better
[22:44] <vicium\a> guided and all that..
[22:44] <jmrog> vicium\a: useradd -m -p PASSWORD USERNAME should be fine, afaik
[22:44] <NictraSavios> vicium\a, Oh, sorry. Missed that.
[22:44] <grendal> NictraSavios, ive tried that
[22:44] <vicium\a> Aha, i formatted it wrong then, thanks
[22:44] <jmrog> vicium\a: Problem might've been that you put the username before the options
[22:44] <davidgilmour> jmrog: yes cron is running
[22:44] <vicium\a> Yeah
[22:44] <grendal> i mean..i find it rather strange
[22:44] <vicium\a> I did :/
[22:44] <NictraSavios> vicium\a, But... you should probably add a few groups.
[22:45] <NictraSavios> grendal, What is the software in question and why do you want it?
[22:45] <jmrog> davidgilmour: No luck supplying the full path for php or putting it in a script?
[22:45] <KLtourist> Hello, I'm trying to install ubuntu on Zenbook but it failed!!!
[22:45] <jmrog> e.g. */5 * * * * /usr/bin/php /path/to/script
[22:46] <grendal> i have a machine running on ec2  and a s3 bucket and i want to mount the s3 bucket
[22:46] <vicium\a> Hmm I also have another problem I didnt have this the last time.. I downloaded murmur ( a voice communication server software ) and it refuses to run, i think it wants to run via a gui or something.. I get a shiiiitload of gdk_screen errors and a Segmentation Fault at the end...
[22:46] <grendal> its a 1204 server..
[22:46] <mint> should the / and /home be logical or primary partitions?
[22:46] <KLtourist> it easily cannot install the Grub on SSD
[22:46] <grendal> there is a fuse app you can download and complile..i was just hoping for a packed option if i could find one
[22:46] <jmrog> mint: Depends, do you have and/or plan to have additional partitions? Drives can only have 4 primary partitions maximum.
[22:46] <NictraSavios> grendal, Your probably going to have to compile it then
[22:46] <vicium\a> If anyone has a spare moment, this is the error i get ' http://paste.ubuntu.com/1114633/ '
[22:47] <vicium\a> (when trying to run the executable script)
[22:47] <mint> jm: i might install win 7/8 later on
[22:47] <davidgilmour> jmlog: nope.. i just added a "> cronlog.log" at the end of the script.. that's the only way I know to test if the cron is actually working
[22:47] <NictraSavios> vicium\a, Yeah, its looking for a screen
[22:47] <vicium\a> Is there a launch option to.. force it to not?
[22:47] <jmrog> davidgilmour: Same here, that's how I'd test it.
[22:47] <NictraSavios> vicium\a, check th manual
[22:47] <NictraSavios> the*
[22:47] <vicium\a> Will do!
[22:47] <davidgilmour> the script works fine running it from ssh
[22:47] <vicium\a> But the FAQ for installing it said it was just to apt-get and run it, wrong! :)
[22:48] <NictraSavios> vicium\a, :P Bad documentation aha
[22:48] <vicium\a> 'However, on distributions with prepackaged Murmur (Debian/Ubuntu), Murmur is configured to run as a system service, just like your webserver, mailserver and whatever else you have running. This "global" installation is a ready, turn-key solution' pff!
[22:48] <vicium\a> But maybe i'm missing some obvious common libraries since its a fresh VPN install...
[22:49]  * NictraSavios Thinks that bad documentation writers should be punished like thieves in the old world. Cut off their hands at the wrists.
[22:49] <NictraSavios> vicium\a, I have no idea then. all I know it what the error means :P
[22:49] <genii-around> !info murmur
[22:49] <genii-around> Hm
[22:50] <NictraSavios> Oo... its a gtk client for the mussekd deamon... not a voice server...
[22:50] <vicium\a> Oh
[22:50] <vicium\a> I have the wrong package..
[22:50] <vicium\a> murmur-server not murmur...!
[22:50] <NictraSavios> :D
[22:51] <vicium\a> I think..
[22:51] <vicium\a> !info mumble-server
[22:51] <agentgasmask> Hi all. I'm trying to install all the same packages on a new system as on my old system. I seem to remember there being some relationship between dpkg --get-selections and apt-get (dselect-upgrade?) or something. Any hints?
[22:51] <vicium\a> There we go..
[22:52] <jmrog> agentgasmask: What you're looking for is dpkg --get-selections on one system and dpkg --set-selections on the other
[22:52] <agentgasmask> jmrog: Ok. and running dpkg --set-selections will download/install the packages, or do I then just run apt-get something-or-other?
[22:53] <vicium\a> How long should it take for a DNS to update?
[22:53] <vicium\a> Changed my domain from my own ip to the servers
[22:53] <jmrog> agentgasmask: dpkg --get-selections will tell you what's installed/etc. on the old system. You can put that into a file, then read the file into dpgk --set-selections
[22:53] <jmrog> agentgasmask: After that, you can run apt-get dselect-upgrade
[22:54] <Malcolm2608_> Could some one help me figure out why my keyboard is not detected in ubuntu linux or any ubuntu based distro
[22:54] <jmrog> agentgasmask: The last two commands would be on the new system
[22:54] <saleh> i cannot install the ubuntu on Asus Zenbook. it cannot install Grub on SSD. should i change anything in BIOS or what???
[22:55] <agentgasmask> jmrog: OK, great. :) thank you.
[22:55] <Nakkel> How do I get HP un2400 (Gobi 1000) WWAN modem to work on 12.04? dmesg shows that drivers are loaded and the device attaches to /dev/ttyUSB0 but after few seconds it disconnects the device and just dissapears from the system.
[22:56] <Malcolm2608_> I have two keyboard , one of them works and the other one dosen't
[22:56] <Malcolm2608_> its kinad weird  lol
[22:56] <Malcolm2608_> kinda
[22:56] <jmrog> agentgasmask: No problem, good luck
[22:56] <agentgasmask> jmrog++
[22:56] <jmrog> :)
[22:56] <genii-around> Malcolm2608_: Does it have some funky adapter like ps2->usb ?
[22:57] <Malcolm2608_> nope
[22:57] <Malcolm2608_> just as normal usb 2.0
[22:57] <saleh> i cannot install the ubuntu on Asus Zenbook. it cannot install Grub on SSD and it opens the window "bootleader install failed". should i change anything in BIOS or what???
[22:57] <QubitSmuggler> spill beer on one malcom?
[22:57] <vicium\a> Is there an easy way to 'speedtest' your connection up/downstreams in ubuntu?
[22:57] <Malcolm2608_> lol no , the keyboard works
[22:58] <vicium\a> Without using the a webbrowser
[22:58] <agentgasmask> saleh: Perhaps that is that new window locked bootloader thing? I've only hear roumors about it.
[22:58] <Malcolm2608_> they kbaord works in windows
[22:58] <Malcolm2608_> and i think in  puppy linux
[22:58] <Malcolm2608_> its just ubuntu and ubuntu based distros
[22:58] <Malcolm2608_> the lights and stuff show up on it , but none of the buttons do anything
[22:59] <saleh> agentgasmask: i removed my windows
[22:59] <agentgasmask> vicium\a: if you have two hosts you could see the speed between them with a simple nc and speedometer setup.
[23:00] <saleh> i cannot install the ubuntu on Asus Zenbook. it cannot install Grub on SSD and it opens the window "bootleader install failed". should i change anything in BIOS or what???
[23:00] <Malcolm2608_> the keyboard is new
[23:01] <Malcolm2608_> and im using xchat so i have no idea how to pm
[23:01] <agentgasmask> saleh: Yeah, I seem to remember something about windows getting harware OEMs to lock the motherboard to the windows bootloader. Anyone else know more about this? Conferm/denie?
[23:01] <vicium\a> I dont agentgasmask :/
[23:01] <agentgasmask> vicium\a: hmmm... Let me think... there has to be a way.
[23:02] <jmrog> agentgasmask: That's unlikely to be the issue. The thing you're talking about with locked bootloaders is part of Windows 8 certification, and Windows 8 isn't released yet
[23:02] <saleh> agentgasmask: if anything, i guess it should be the default BIOS setting. let me check sth...
[23:02] <agentgasmask> Thanks guys.
[23:03] <agentgasmask> vicium\a: check this out: wget --output-document=/dev/null http://speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com/downloads/test500.zip
[23:04] <vicium\a> Is the zip file an actual file or am I supposed to monitor the speed? :P
[23:04] <agentgasmask> vicium\a: I just did a google search for: test internet connection speed commandline linux
[23:05] <agentgasmask> vicium\a: It should be a real file. it's "saving" it to /dev/null (wich is just throwing it away.) but wget should tell you the download speed.
[23:05] <vicium\a> Yeah, upload to go then!
[23:06] <vicium\a> Thanks I guess but isnt that speed also very varied depending on server location etc?
[23:06] <vicium\a> Ahwell ill google for some more resources
[23:06] <agentgasmask> vicium\a: yes, but that's a factor if you use the webbrowser based version too.
[23:06] <agentgasmask> vicium\a: Ok. Good luck. :)
[23:07] <vicium\a> But that version usually check your location and sends you to the closest server ( i think ) thanks :)
[23:07] <DWSR> What´s the Java package called?
[23:07] <DWSR> !java
[23:08] <vicium\a> jde/jke afaik
[23:09] <agentgasmask> vicium\a: true.
[23:09] <disposable> if i run 'apt-get source kernel-image-3.2.0-6-generic', does the unpacked kernel source already have ubuntu patches in or do i need to apply the diff manually?
[23:11] <jmrog> saleh: Can you run parted on your drive?
[23:11] <saleh> jmorg: i cannot install ubuntu, how can i run gparted or parted?
[23:12] <jmrog> saleh: LiveCD
[23:12] <vicium\a> agentgasmask: Yeah heh, 3.5 mbs using one of them 11mb/s using wget -O/dev/null speedtest.pixelwolf.ch :D
[23:12] <ghs> a software engineer ?
[23:12] <vicium\a> Wish I could emulate a GUI on my home desktop from my VPN
[23:12] <saleh> jmorg: smart try :) let me try that...
[23:13] <romy420> disposable: it's patched up to version 3.2.0-6 ... the last updates that came for 12.04 installed 3.2.0-27 automatically
[23:13] <vicium\a> And infact, just read pixelwolf capped at 100 mbit, so cant really see if my promised 1gbit works.. :(
[23:13] <jmrog> saleh: If you can do it, when you run parted on the ssd, can you print the partition table and tell me what kind of partition table it has? Curious about something.
[23:13] <vicium\a> Although HDD probably fails at some point
[23:15] <saleh> jmorg: it has 32SSD+500 of HDD . i wanna install root on SSD and home on 500GB
[23:15] <horacio> Hi
[23:15] <jmrog> saleh: Can you run parted on the SSD and print the partition table?
[23:16] <StoneCypher> what is the preferred way of upgrading mysql to 5.6?  googling gives a whole bunch of pretty seriously different answers.
[23:16] <saleh> jmorg: am using my PC to connect to XCHAT. i'm doing it on my laptop. plus, i'm trying to change the BIOS setting to get my things done
[23:17] <vicium\a> Do I need to add any specific flags to search for a file/folder named 'murmur' ? I'm sitting at root@server:/# trying find murmur
[23:17] <jmrog> saleh: Okay. What I'm trying to do is determine whether your drive is using GPT instead of MBR. If you run parted on the drive, and then type 'print', it will have a line that says "Partition table:" and afterward it will list the type
[23:17] <vicium\a> Like to search subdirectories etc
[23:17] <jmrog> saleh: Just want to check and make sure it doesn't list 'gpt'
[23:18] <Dr_Willis> vicium\a:  locate uses a database.   'locate filename' but the database is only updated like on ce a day
[23:18] <saleh> jmorg: ok. Thanks. just w8...
[23:19] <disposable> romy420: thanks
[23:19] <jmrog> vicium\a: I'd do something like: find / -iname 'murmur'
[23:19] <DFrostedWang> This may not be the place to ask this, but I need a way to view folders on my Android phone that are on my computer on my wifi network.
[23:19] <romy420> :) have fun
[23:19] <StoneCypher> vicium\a: updatedb
[23:20] <DFrostedWang> Unless anyone can suggest a better way to get my porn on my phone without a microSD card
[23:20] <vicium\a> Thanks, all of you
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> DFrostedWang:  thers tools for android that let you browse it in a browser,  with a nice file manager.
[23:20] <StoneCypher> after that it'll work as expected
[23:20] <DFrostedWang> I know, but I want something simpler
[23:20] <usr13> Dr_Willis: DFrostedWang FileEpert
[23:20] <DFrostedWang> I have that
[23:21] <DFrostedWang> It isn't very good for this
[23:21] <usr13> DFrostedWang: What do you need?
[23:21] <Dr_Willis> DFrostedWang:   your details are a bit confuseing.. so we dont know what you need..
[23:21] <DFrostedWang> I have a rooted phone, perhaps I could mount my porn partition like it was on my phone?
[23:21] <usr13> DFrostedWang: There's bluetooth
[23:21] <DFrostedWang> Bluetooth is slow
[23:21] <StoneCypher> any love for the actual ubuntu question :/
[23:21] <usr13> DFrostedWang: We are not interested in helping you get porn, so never mind.
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> theres ssh and ftp and other stuff for android. and samba
[23:22] <DFrostedWang> I already have the porn
[23:22] <usr13> StoneCypher: Yes
[23:22] <kion> is there any software in Ubuntu to create videos from pictures?
[23:22] <DFrostedWang> Yes
[23:22] <DFrostedWang> Lots of software for that
[23:22] <usr13> DFrostedWang: We are fully aware of that.  Thanks anyway
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> kion:  ffmpeg. or mencoder can take lots of imagtes and put them into a movie
[23:22] <StoneCypher> usr13: ... like?
[23:22] <StoneCypher> Dr_Willis, DFrostedWang: please take it to #android
[23:22] <kion> Dr_Willis: is that intalled in Ubuntu by default?
[23:22] <usr13> StoneCypher: Sorry, just agreeing with you.
[23:22] <DFrostedWang> Oh yeah, I also need help finding a way to make thumbnails from a video.
[23:23] <l3d> was wondering how I would change the theme to all black background for everything even things run as root like I used to in the great 10.10 and below ( why fix something that wasnt broke)
[23:23] <StoneCypher> usr13: no, i was asking people to look into the question that DFrostedWang was spamming out of channel
[23:23] <usr13> DFrostedWang: /join #android
[23:23] <Dr_Willis> kion:  i doubt it.. they are in the repos
[23:23] <DFrostedWang> I'm already thee
[23:23] <DFrostedWang> there*
[23:23] <DFrostedWang> But what about my thumbnailing question?
[23:23] <saleh> jmorg: (parted) /dev/sr0: unrecognised disk label
[23:23] <usr13> DFrostedWang: Good.  Come back when you have question about Ubuntu.
[23:24] <DFrostedWang> I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT UBUNTU!
[23:24] <DFrostedWang> I just said that...
[23:24] <davidgilmour> jmrog: still there?
[23:24] <usr13> DFrostedWang: What is your question?
[23:24] <StoneCypher> [19:16] <StoneCypher> what is the preferred way of upgrading mysql to 5.6?  googling gives a whole bunch of pretty seriously different answers.
[23:24] <kion> Dr_Willis:  Thanks I just did sudo apt-get install libav-tools
[23:24] <DFrostedWang> I need help finding a way to make thumbnails from a video.
[23:24] <saleh> jmorg: (parted) print
[23:24] <StoneCypher> usr13: could i get some help please, this guy just wants attention
[23:24] <jmrog> davidgilmour: yes
[23:24] <saleh> jmorg: Error: /dev/sr0: unrecognised disk label
[23:25] <mrdn>  DFrostedWang: the rule on #ubuntu is that you get only answers from people that are incapable of solving your real problem. like me.
[23:25] <jmrog> saleh: Are you sure that /dev/sr0 is your hard drive?
[23:25] <DFrostedWang> This is why I stopped using Ubuntu... Bad support. I came here with two questions and neither got answered.
[23:25] <jmrog> saleh: I mean the ssd
[23:26] <usr13> DFrostedWang: In other words, we do not know how to make thumbnails from a video.  Any other questions?
[23:26] <vicium\a> This is free support?
[23:26] <[deXter]> He already left. >_>
[23:26] <vicium\a> I found ubuntu support to be enormous, previously aswell
[23:26] <vicium\a> ah
[23:26] <genii-around> DFrostedWang: Convert to mjpeg , as described here: http://blog.prashanthellina.com/2008/03/29/creating-video-thumbnails-using-ffmpeg/
[23:26] <StoneCypher> vicium\a: only if the problem is trivial and has nothing to do with ubuntu
[23:26] <genii-around> Bleh, they are always so impatient
[23:26] <davidgilmour> jmrog the cron seems to be running, but I get a zero bytes file.. now I'm really confused
[23:26] <vicium\a> Yeah.. I've gotten help here throughout the years with very basic stuff, always someone to help me atleast
[23:27] <StoneCypher> lucky you.
[23:27] <usr13> vicium\a: Sure, when you have a real issue, there is always someone that can solve it.
[23:27] <davidgilmour> oh no, someone is trolling
[23:28] <davidgilmour> (grabbing popcorn)
[23:28] <vicium\a> Whats trolling?
[23:28] <QubitSmuggler> lol
[23:28] <vicium\a> Fishing?
[23:28] <StoneCypher> vicium\a: what people who want attention say
[23:28]  * QubitSmuggler steals some popcorn from davidgilmour
[23:28] <StoneCypher> vicium\a: ignore whoever said that; they're just trying to create a fight
[23:29] <saleh> jmorg: i've turned off the "Intel virtualization technology" in bios. let me turn it on again...
[23:29] <bazhang> lets get back to support please
[23:29] <StoneCypher> bazhang: taht'd be great.  mind telling me the appropriate approach to upgrading mysql past the 2008 5.1 that's in apt?
[23:29] <romy420> StoneCypher maybe ppl at #mysql can answer your question
[23:29] <vicium\a> So when will I be able to simulate a GUI to my desktop from my vpn? :)
[23:30] <StoneCypher> romy420: no, they cannot help me with ubuntu's package manager.
[23:30] <Thunder7102> hey guys. I screwed up big time. I deleted the partition Ubuntu was in (I was trying to fix a ton of logical partitions) and now grub is not loading properly
[23:30] <Thunder7102> I'm in grub rescue
[23:30] <romy420> ok, that's true
[23:30] <bazhang> StoneCypher, what version of ubuntu are you using currently please
[23:30] <Thunder7102> is there a way to boot into other partitions?
[23:31] <StoneCypher> bazhang: i just upgraded to 12.04 lts i believe
[23:31] <usr13> Thunder7102: If you deleted the Ubuntu partition, you'll have to re-install
[23:31] <Thunder7102> usr13: Is there a way I can use grub rescue to boot into another partition so i can burn the cd?
[23:31] <jmrog> StoneCypher: You're saying that you have the version of mysql that is in Ubuntu's repositories, and you want to know how to upgrade beyond it?
[23:31] <OerHeks> StoneCypher, then you would see mysql-server 5.5.24-0ubuntu0.12.04.1
[23:31] <m1chael> does anyone have any information regarding the streaming of skype calls to icecast2?
[23:31] <hmida> hi
[23:31] <usr13> Thunder7102: Yes, but only if you have a bootable OS on another partition.
[23:32] <Thunder7102> usr13: I do.
[23:32] <usr13> Thunder7102: Then by all means boot it.
[23:32] <StoneCypher> OerHeks: unless i was too stupid to get it right.  sudo apt-get upgrade mysql-server says there's nothing to upgrade.
[23:32] <Thunder7102> The first usable partition other than the MBR should be it. What command should I use in grub rescue usr13?
[23:33] <usr13> !grub | Thunder7102
[23:33] <StoneCypher> jmrog: to be clear, "maybe."  the internet says it's supposed to be 5.5; i don't seem to be able to get past 5.1.  5.5 would be fine.
[23:33] <ThePendulum> Any ideas how to unhide shutter?
[23:33] <StoneCypher> jmrog: more likely, PEBKAC.
[23:34] <bazhang> StoneCypher, the version for 12.04 is 5.5.22
[23:34] <jmrog> StoneCypher: apt-get upgrade doesn't take package names as arguments
[23:34] <jmrog> StoneCypher: What happens if you try apt-get install mysql-server
[23:35] <StoneCypher> mysql-server is already the newest version.\n0 upgraded, ...
[23:36] <jmrog> StoneCypher: What version number shows when you type apt-cache show mysql-server
[23:36] <StoneCypher> 5.1.63-0ubuntu0.11.10.1
[23:36] <StoneCypher> mysql console says 5.1, so that seems like an agreement
[23:37] <jmrog> StoneCypher: Okay, you must not be getting the correct repos. You said you're on Ubuntu 12.04? Have you issued apt-get update first? And what are the repos in your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[23:37] <Magic-Fx> Hi all - How do I edit the screensaver settings in 12.04? :)
[23:37] <bazhang> StoneCypher, whats the output from lsb_release -a in terminal
[23:37] <StoneCypher> i did apt-get update.  checking sources list
[23:38] <StoneCypher> oh, it says 11.10 oneiric ocelot at the top of the sources list.
[23:38] <StoneCypher> wtf, and lsb_release -a says 11.10
[23:38] <StoneCypher> i just did the 12.04 update, what the hell
[23:38] <usr13> StoneCypher: What command did you use?
[23:38] <jmrog> StoneCypher: Hm... Well there you go, at least, with respect to the mysql issue.
[23:38] <StoneCypher> *oh*
[23:38] <usr13> StoneCypher: Or how did you do it?
[23:38] <StoneCypher> ok, i just figured out how i'm an idiot.
[23:39] <saleh> jmorg: r u still there?
[23:39] <StoneCypher> the 12.04 LTS update is on a different button than normal update.
[23:39] <jmrog> StoneCypher: Cool. Hope you enjoyed your free Ubuntu support! ;)
[23:39] <StoneCypher> i updated everything *but* the LTS thing.
[23:39] <StoneCypher> thank you all for your support; sorry it was on such a stupid error.
[23:39] <jmrog> saleh: Yes, looking into it, not really sure about your problem though
[23:39] <davidgilmour> lol :)
[23:39] <OerHeks> No, you are no idiot, you have asked a solution to a proble,.
[23:40] <Thunder7102> I still can't find it. What is the command to boot to a certain partition via grub rescue?
[23:40] <saleh> jmorg: even "Disk Usage Analyser" shows there is only one disk of 5.1GB . that's silly!!!
[23:40] <StoneCypher> OerHeks: if you think i'm not an idiot, you don't yet know me well enough.
[23:40] <jmrog> davidgilmour: Don't have much more to say about your problem, sorry. If cron is working but outputting a zero byte file, it could be a problem with the php script
[23:41] <saleh> jmorg: thanks anyway :) love this supportive channel...
[23:42] <jmrog> saleh: Something has come up for me and I unfortunately have to run, sorry. Good luck with your problem
[23:42] <Myr|Away> Anyone know what the problem could be with this wubi installation? It is only showing 2gb out of 4, its 10.10
[23:42] <davidgilmour> we're all idiots
[23:43] <Thunder7102> i need to boot my Windows 7 partition from grub rescue to burn a CD. :P
[23:43] <QubitSmuggler> there are 2 kinds of people in the world, idiots and jerks, if you are not one you are the other
[23:43] <genii-around> Myr: If it's a 32 bit install, you may need a PAE kernel
[23:43] <jeffrey> can anyone help me?  my monitor picture is not properly aligned, the bottom and the right of the screen are clipped off and auto adjust on the monitor doesnt work.  the monitor is also detected as a laptop screen in the display settings even though its a desktop
[23:43] <genii-around> !pae | Myr
[23:43] <davidgilmour> it's hard to tell which one i'd prefer to be
[23:44] <bazhang> !ot | davidgilmour
[23:44] <Myr> 2 != 3.2 :(
[23:44] <ThePendulum> Does anyone know how to 'unhide' Shutter? It's running but I can't find it
[23:44] <bazhang> Myr, get a supported version, 10.10 is already end of support life
[23:45] <genii-around> bazhang: Well, that too! ;-)
[23:45] <vicium\a> So I can actually install ubuntu-desktop & a vnc server on a VPS and acess it via a GUI? :o
[23:45] <m477> is it possible to monitor somehow how much energy consume display in notebook?
[23:46] <davidgilmour> !ot | QubitSmuggler
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> vicium\a:  you can. or use ssh and x forwarding.
[23:47] <saori> hello
[23:47] <vicium\a> !xforwarding
[23:47] <saori> I want to record my sound output to an mp3 wav or flac, can I do that?
[23:47] <QubitSmuggler> use the sound recorder
[23:47] <exutux> so if x forward is enabled on VPS server
[23:47] <Dr_Willis> ThePendulum:  if its an older app that has a minimize to the systray type feature it may be minimized there. and thus hidden. You should be able to rerun shutter and have it reappear..
[23:48] <exutux> vicium\a: so if x forward is enabled on VPS server
[23:48] <ThePendulum> Dr_Willis: I don't think it's outdated much. Also, there's nothing in the tray because I disabled that lol
[23:48] <vicium\a> But x forwarding can only access a specific X 'app at one time or?
[23:48] <vicium\a> Not the 'entire dekstop' so tospeak
[23:48] <exutux> and for vnc if your costumer permit forward for 5900 port
[23:48] <exutux> vicium\a: correct
[23:48] <vicium\a> I can just change the port otherwise yeah? :P
[23:48] <jeffrey> so is it possible to adjust the screen position?
[23:49] <Dr_Willis> ThePendulum:  no idea then
[23:49] <exutux> it's only for open GUI apps in your local desktop
[23:49] <vicium\a> Thanks, I'll check both of theese out, x forwarding seems useful since i use putty all the time
[23:49] <m477> anyone?
[23:49] <Dr_Willis> vicium\a:  you need a x server running on the local box also
[23:49] <exutux> vicium\a: for vnc or remote desktop them port must be natted on router where VPS is
[23:49] <ThePendulum> Dr_Willis: Alright, thanks none the less
[23:50] <vicium\a> Um... you lost me exutux.. :P
[23:50] <okahsdasd> is it just me or has this version of ubuntu had the most updates so far... ?
[23:50] <vicium\a> Dr_Willis: I'm using win7, does that break it? :P
[23:50] <Dr_Willis> vicium\a:  stick to SSH and X forwarding then
[23:50] <vicium\a> okay
[23:50] <Dr_Willis> vicium\a:  you need an X server for windows. Like Xming
[23:51] <exutux> check if x forward for ssh is enabled on VPS server
[23:51] <genii-around> m477: So you want your battery monitor to break down what is using how much, etc?
[23:52] <romy420> m477, you can use 'powertop' (probably will have to install it from repo first)
[23:52] <exutux> otherwise xforward doesn't run
[23:52] <romy420> it gives u an estimation
[23:53] <exutux> estimation about process that use more battery
[23:53] <vicium\a> exutux: Is there an easy way to check it? I'm installing xming atm, looking at help.ubuntu documentaiton about it, it sounds like i need to setup the connection to attempt it
[23:54] <exutux> vicium\a: if you have root permission and not limited you can look in /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[23:54] <vicium\a> Okay, will do
[23:54] <exutux> /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[23:54] <exutux> and you have to restart ssh
[23:54] <vicium\a> sadface
[23:54] <vicium\a> -bash: /etc/ssh/sshd_config: Permission denied
[23:54] <exutux> if you modify it
[23:55] <exutux> vicium\a: well
[23:55] <exutux> you're account is limited
[23:55] <exutux> ask to costumer then
[23:55] <vicium\a> Will do!
[23:56] <vicium\a> On an entirely diferent matter, how well does Win7 run on ubuntu (using VMware) if you have the horsepower for it?
[23:57] <jeffrey> nobody knows how to adjust the screen position?
[23:57] <osmosis> can I get the cinnamon window manager for ubuntu?
[23:57] <ThePendulum> jeffrey: In Ubuntu 12.04?
[23:57] <Dr_Willis> xvidtune (for old school way jeffrey ) or the xrandr tools perhaps
[23:57] <jeffrey> im on mint
[23:58] <ThePendulum> OH I read resolution, I facepalmed too quickly
[23:58] <Dr_Willis> osmosis:  i imagine so.. but this channel dosent support cinnamon.
[23:58] <m477> romy420: powertop shows only whole dischagre value, and I wonder how much of it is from display discharge
[23:58] <vicium\a> !offtopic
[23:58] <osmosis> maybe in ubuntu+1
[23:59] <diegosx> Hello! I have a problem.. I downloaded yesterday the last version of Ubuntu and then i put it on a cd.. I try to boot but it stuck on a small man logo :/
[23:59] <romy420> m477, mine shows also the display backilight reading