| dantti | do-release-upgrade -d don't show quantal what I'm missing? | 04:12 |
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| dantti | as ok it was only checking lts ones ... | 04:13 |
| dantti | now I need to poke them again to enable my kernel feature :P | 04:15 |
| shadeslayer | Anyone have a idea on how to do a fresh install while preserving my old encrypted /home ? | 11:16 |
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| shadeslayer | kubotu: np | 11:44 |
| kubotu | shadeslayer_ is listening to "Overture" by Daft Punk [TRON: Legacy, 2010] [http://open.spotify.com/track/1wlLWCKOYy3o2GlVR1szY2] -- see http://www.last.fm/user/shadeslayer_ for more | 11:44 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: your e.v. vote is open! | 13:44 |
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| === skreech__ is now known as Daskreech | ||
| Riddell | "Harald Sitter (apachelogger) renewed their own membership in the Kubuntu Members (kubuntu-members) team until 2013-07-31." yay he still loves us! | 17:54 |
| jussi | mrgh hrsdhhhjk | 17:57 |
| jussi | damn nvidia | 17:57 |
| jussi | Random logouts :/ | 17:58 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: \o/ | 18:25 |
| shadeslayer | Everyone who is a e.V. member, plz2vote :P | 18:25 |
| jussi | not I said the jussi | 18:26 |
| chronos | here shadeslayer | 18:40 |
| shadeslayer | chronos: hi | 18:40 |
| chronos | so ... is weird, I added ppa but not see ppa packages | 18:41 |
| shadeslayer | chronos: right, so you wanted KTP packages for precise? | 18:41 |
| chronos | ya | 18:41 |
| chronos | to test 0.4 | 18:41 |
| shadeslayer | ok, sec | 18:41 |
| shadeslayer | chronos: by any chance, are you Bhargav? | 18:41 |
| chronos | nop | 18:42 |
| shadeslayer | chronos: ok, ktp packages are here : https://launchpad.net/~telepathy-kde/+archive/ppa | 18:43 |
| shadeslayer | chronos: sorry, must have mistaken you for someone else then | 18:43 |
| chronos | hm not on kubuntu backports/ | 18:43 |
| chronos | ? | 18:43 |
| Daskreech | chronos: It's not stable so unlikely to be in backports | 18:43 |
| shadeslayer | nope | 18:43 |
| Daskreech | The point of backports is to make things more stable or more secure | 18:44 |
| Daskreech | ktp currently does neither | 18:44 |
| chronos | k, so need to fix that article http://www.kubuntu.org/ktp-0.4 | 18:44 |
| * shadeslayer looks | 18:45 | |
| shadeslayer | oh | 18:45 |
| shadeslayer | ktp-filetransfer-handler 2 weeks ago | 18:45 |
| shadeslayer | it's there in kubuntu backports | 18:45 |
| shadeslayer | chronos: did you do a sudo apt-get update ? | 18:45 |
| chronos | ah ya | 18:45 |
| chronos | sometimes | 18:46 |
| shadeslayer | Daskreech: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports/+packages?field.name_filter=ktp&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=precise | 18:46 |
| shadeslayer | ~np | 18:46 |
| kubotu | shadeslayer_ is listening to "The Grid" by Daft Punk [TRON: Legacy, 2010] [http://open.spotify.com/track/5z9v299A7qXXSk2VY0sUu0] -- see http://www.last.fm/user/shadeslayer_ for more | 18:46 |
| chronos | ahn with ppa u send me not works too shadeslayer | 18:47 |
| Daskreech | shadeslayer: ha :) How'd that get in? :-D | 18:47 |
| shadeslayer | what | 18:47 |
| shadeslayer | Daskreech: I have no idea tbh :P | 18:47 |
| shadeslayer | Probably because we have it in the quantal archives now | 18:47 |
| chronos | brb | 18:47 |
| shadeslayer | I should get 0.4.1 into archives, will do on Monday after testing | 18:48 |
| chronos | hm but we have 0.4 on telepathy-kde ppa for precise | 19:11 |
| chronos | really don't know why it not show for me | 19:11 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: ping | 19:54 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: pong | 19:56 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: Regarding the IM magic, do you think we can get those changes in Precise or we leave it as it is and make it work perfectly in Quantal? | 19:57 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: I'd say let's get quantal fixed and then see. | 19:57 |
| ScottK | I think we probably can get precise fixed though. | 19:58 |
| Quintasan | Ok, did you already do some packaging or I can take a look at that? | 19:58 |
| ScottK | Please take a look. | 19:59 |
| ScottK | I was mostly trying to understand what needed to be done so far. | 20:00 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: what did you work out needed done? | 21:02 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Uh and what are we talking about? IM stuff? | 21:02 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: yes | 21:04 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: I grabbed the source and took a look | 21:05 |
| Quintasan | Nothing much, will start doing it. | 21:05 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I think the biggest thing that needs doing it probably integration of IM activation with language selection. | 21:05 |
| ScottK | AIUI anyway) | 21:05 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: the source of what? | 21:05 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: packaging I mean | 21:06 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: packaging of what? | 21:06 |
| Quintasan | kdeplasma-addons | 21:06 |
| Quintasan | since that's where kimpanel is | 21:06 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: but what needs done to it? | 21:06 |
| ScottK | It looks like just re-enabling the binary. | 21:07 |
| Quintasan | Yeah | 21:07 |
| Riddell | for ibus? /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kimpanel-ibus-panel is already in plasma-widget-kimpanel | 21:08 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: New binary from source package plasma-widget-kimpanel-backend-ibus | 21:08 |
| Quintasan | Hmm | 21:08 |
| ScottK | Given we've got someone who has got it working and seems to understand it, I'm inclined to pretty much follow their lead. | 21:09 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: It seems like the biggest change is the addition on http://paste.kde.org/524564 | 21:10 |
| Quintasan | kimpanel-ibus-panel.desktop | 21:10 |
| Quintasan | Which gets copied into etc/xdg/autostart/ | 21:10 |
| Quintasan | Probably to ensure it is really running | 21:10 |
| Riddell | right | 21:12 |
| Quintasan | /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kimpanel-ibus-panel doesn't exist in precise | 21:12 |
| Quintasan | At least not in my install | 21:12 |
| * Quintasan is pretty sure he installed kimpanel | 21:12 | |
| Riddell | and get it installed for the right languages | 21:13 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: install quantal if you're working on quantal! else it might all be wrong | 21:13 |
| ScottK | It doesn't exist on precise. | 21:13 |
| ScottK | http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=precise&arch=any&mode=exactfilename&searchon=contents&keywords=kimpanel-ibus-panel | 21:13 |
| ScottK | It does on quantal. | 21:14 |
| Quintasan | Then we want that to be fixed in precise | 21:15 |
| Quintasan | Our kdeplasma-addons branch installs that file | 21:15 |
| ScottK | If $SOMEONE would upload an SRU for that, I'll approve/New it. Needs bug/test case/etc for SRU. | 21:18 |
| Quintasan | I'm not sure how do we handle that entire magic in the installer but the steps seem to be working | 21:19 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: which steps? | 21:20 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: The ones Awashiro sent Scott asked if we want im-switch im-select | 21:21 |
| Quintasan | However one must ensure ibus is installed before sudo update-alternatives --install /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/en_US xinput-en_US /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/ibus 60 | 21:22 |
| Quintasan | or as Ma suggested we could use im-switch instead | 21:22 |
| Riddell | it's always been a mystery why that stuff is needed rather than just a config file setting like everything else | 21:22 |
| * Riddell snoozes | 21:24 | |
| Quintasan | http://paste.kde.org/524564 makes sure that kimpanel-ibus backend is started automagically | 21:24 |
| Quintasan | it integrates very nicely | 21:26 |
| shadeslayer | hmm .. does anyone know how to write/modify help.ubuntu.com pages? | 21:27 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: IIRC you need to be an ubuntu-docs member. | 21:28 |
| shadeslayer | alrighty, that would be LittleGirl in our case | 21:28 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: One of the steps was adding the widget to the panel, wasn't it? We can do that with javscript if we need to. | 21:29 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: I think I recall Riddell saying something about her being on VAC for awhile. | 21:29 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: Yes, we can, the question is do we want to add that by default for every install | 21:30 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 21:30 |
| Quintasan | Or can we somehow make it if'able basing on locale? | 21:30 |
| shadeslayer | it can wait, as long as it gets released along with Quantal | 21:30 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: i don't think we have to. I think we can do it in the language selector somehow. | 21:30 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: Okay. | 21:30 |
| ScottK | Or kimpanel can ship the javascript snippet. | 21:31 |
| ScottK | I think it's safe to assume that if someone installs it, they want it to work. | 21:31 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: The trick to this stuff is finding ibus engines for each language | 21:31 |
| Quintasan | for ex. Anthy is for Japanese | 21:31 |
| ScottK | Right. | 21:31 |
| Quintasan | and then using the im-switch to force ibus | 21:31 |
| ScottK | There's two bits I think. | 21:31 |
| ScottK | One is getting it into the panel on install. | 21:32 |
| ScottK | We can do that with js. | 21:32 |
| ScottK | (similar to how was have a different panel layout for plasma-netbook) | 21:32 |
| ScottK | Two is getting it activated correctly. | 21:32 |
| Quintasan | /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kimpanel-ibus-panel -i ? | 21:32 |
| ScottK | That's per-language so would have to be done in the language selector. | 21:32 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: Ah yeah, I forgot that I added Anthy manually using ibus-setup | 21:33 |
| Quintasan | hmm | 21:34 |
| Quintasan | no idea if we can somehow stick a input method to ibus without nagging the user to do it himself | 21:34 |
| ScottK | For part one, I'm thinking about /usr/share/kde4/apps/plasma/layout-templates/org.kde.plasma-netbook.defaultPanel/contents/layout.js as an example. | 21:36 |
| ScottK | (kubuntu-netbook-default-settings) | 21:36 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: But that's the easiest part :P Did you try those steps that Awashiro sent? | 21:38 |
| ScottK | No. I told you I hadn't done anything but think about it. | 21:38 |
| Quintasan | Oh, ok, look then | 21:38 |
| Quintasan | 4. ibus-setup | 21:38 |
| Quintasan | 5. Open [Input Method] tab, and check [Customize activate input methods] on | 21:38 |
| Quintasan | 6. Click [Select an input methods]-[Japanese]-[Anthy] | 21:38 |
| Quintasan | 7. Click [add] | 21:38 |
| Quintasan | You gotta do some clicking to do enable Anthy for example | 21:39 |
| Quintasan | This would have to be done with every language | 21:39 |
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| Quintasan | s/language/input method | 21:39 |
| Quintasan | The question is how do we handle that | 21:40 |
| ScottK | If we could get to step 5 automatically and the user had to click 5 - 7 by hand, that would still be a huge step forward. | 21:40 |
| Quintasan | ibus-setup is gui only | 21:40 |
| Quintasan | Oh, okay | 21:40 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: That stuff needs to be done in language-selector? | 21:41 |
| ScottK | That's my guess, but it is a guess. | 21:41 |
| Quintasan | Okay, I noted down the gist of what we want to get done and will look at it tomorrow | 21:44 |
| ScottK | Great. You might reply to the mail saying you're working on it. | 21:45 |
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