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Azelphurhmm, I used powertop to fix a bunch of bad things to save power00:16
Azelphurand then when I reboot, it just goes back to being unfixed00:16
Azelphur:(00:16
ali1234oh no here we go00:16
ali1234website project has entered the "chosing a logo" phase00:16
Azelphurhehe00:16
ali1234"I find it much harder to read the new simple one. Irrespective of its size I can't make out at a quick glance what it says. "00:17
ali1234i bet if i showed you both logos you wouldn't even notice the difference00:17
ali1234the best part is the logo is a circle and the space it goes in on the website is rectangular00:24
ali1234is there anything like etherpad for svg documents?01:54
AlanBellali1234: doctormo was working on something like that05:43
christelgood morning -uk!06:15
AlanBellmorning06:15
njaHello06:15
njaBeen programming since 706:16
christel:)06:16
christeli have been sat in my garden having a quiet cup of coffee since 7! but i decided it was COLD and probably a wise idea to go inside and locate some clothes :)06:16
njaO_o06:17
christel:o06:18
njaI'm adding GameStates :D06:18
njaFinally I can have a menu screen06:18
njaFor debug and anti-annoyance purposes, once it is done, it goes streight to GameplayState on run.06:19
christel:D06:19
christelAlanBell: you're up early! have you got the bbq on? :P06:20
njaI'm so focused, Spotift just started playing Olly Murs, and I don't car!06:20
njae06:20
christelhahaha06:21
njaOK, can't take much more.06:22
njaWhy are the charts so BAD!06:23
njaTime to queue Orcherstral remixes06:24
christeli am listening to vitamin string quartet, always a good start to the day06:28
christel:)06:28
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njaAll the other "Employees" are on holiday so I'm working solo.  again...06:31
christelaww06:31
njaWell, they have to put up with the wrath of my placeholder graphics, so it sorta evens out.  sorta.06:32
njaMLP: FIM Orchestral Remix :D06:34
christelhahaha06:34
* christel brohoofs06:34
* nja approves06:34
MartijnVdSapprhooves?06:34
christelhaha06:35
nja:P06:35
christeli must go wake up my men and get them dressed and ready for rugby training :)06:35
njaDoes no one log off on this?06:35
njaThere are 3 of us talking and 106 online.06:35
nja?06:37
njaWow spotify works with me media keyboard06:43
njaMore productive programming time06:43
diploMorning all06:55
njamoring diplo mat06:55
daubersMorning07:15
* MartijnVdS watches the "Krautrock" documentary that was on BBC Four last night during the Olympic things07:29
MartijnVdShttp://i.imgur.com/bPAh7.png07:31
diploheh MartijnVdS07:33
diplo:P07:33
MartijnVdShttp://i.imgur.com/k42fz.jpg07:33
MartijnVdShttp://i.imgur.com/DWhYa.png07:33
diploCan someone give me some sleep, I am kerknackered07:33
* MartijnVdS hits diplo in the head with a rubber mallet, comedy-style07:34
diploStupid me should have come earlier07:34
nja@MartijnVdS So true07:34
MartijnVdSnja: which one? :)07:34
nja@MartijnVdS All of them :P07:34
diploI have one big failing, if i wake up I can't go back off to sleep :/07:34
MartijnVdSdiplo: so.. go to sleep earlier :)07:35
nja@diplo You get used to it exentually07:35
MartijnVdSdiplo: I only had 6 hours of sleep because some people decided to run some "Olympic Opening Ceremony" until 2am07:35
diploI've had my get used to it stage.. bit old now07:35
MartijnVdSand some insect was buzzing in my ear at 8am07:35
diploMartijnVdS: that's what woke me at 7ish a fly :/07:36
njaOK, I'm on Spotify radio, it just started playing White noise07:36
MartijnVdSthat's dubstep07:39
nja@MartijnVds ...07:41
MartijnVdSnja: ?07:43
AlanBellblue sky and lots of sun \o/08:00
MartijnVdSGrey skies and cool wind08:07
* diplo hopes traffic is ok for the trip08:25
Dave2AlanBell, what would be a sensible/non-stupid time for me to try to arrive for?08:41
brobostigongood morning everyone.08:51
popeymorning all08:53
brobostigonmorning popey08:53
njaHi08:53
brobostigonhi nja08:54
nja@bribistugon hi08:57
nja@brobostigon ^08:57
brobostigonno need for the ', i get highlighted anyway without.08:57
brobostigon@*08:58
nja@brobostigon I know08:58
njaYou have no idea how many times I get told that.08:59
brobostigonit just seems strange.08:59
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)09:08
brobostigonmorning bigcalm :)09:13
bigcalmo/09:18
bigcalmWhat's happening today?09:18
AlanBellbbq!!!!09:20
bigcalmYay09:20
bigcalmSend me a sausage?09:20
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popeyAlanBell, what time you lighting it?09:22
popeypondering whether to give the kids lunch and then come over later for bbq tea stuff09:23
popeyi spy AlanBell hanging out09:24
AlanBellpopey: will light it when people are hungry09:29
popeyok09:30
bigcalmpopey: I'm sure there's a limit to how long you should keep staring before an uncomfortable tension rises09:30
AlanBellthe hangout is cool, working through some big speakers09:30
popeyit times out if you dont wiggle the mouse or type tho09:30
bigcalmpopey: speaking of hanging out, when do you want to discuss things? I'm off out in a couple of hours I think09:30
* Dave2 heads off09:33
Dave2Should be there in a couple of hours09:33
Dave2(Trains to Farnham are awesome.)09:33
diploAlanBell: Just heading off myself, is their a Tescos or something close by yours? not got a cool box and worried about leaving meat in hot car09:34
bigcalmWish I were on my way to Farnham09:35
christelthe boy wonder is making skewers09:36
christelit is rather cute, he attempted to make pork and strawberry ones09:36
bigcalmchristel: sounds like he's weponising the meat09:36
christeli wasn't entirely convinced mind09:36
bigcalmAww09:36
christeldiplo: there is a tesco extra/metro thingie up the road from alan, and a sainsburys in town and one on the bypass (water lane)09:37
christelalso a waitrose in town proper09:37
christel(i've no idea where you're coming from mind so i dont know which might be Best for you)09:37
diploEasy to find for me09:37
diplonear bath :)09:37
christelaah09:37
diplopopey: Found the V+ box etc btw so it will be coming along with ,e09:38
diplome*09:38
popeyyay, thanks!09:38
christelok, then you probably will come down the route we take when we've been to see the inlaws in bristol, so as you come down to the Magical Roundabouts you'll see a sign for sainsburys waterlane, that might be the easiest one :)09:38
popeychristel, you going?09:38
christelpopey: aye!09:38
diplokk thanks christel09:38
popeyi have the lug.org.uk server here09:39
popeyneed to dd zeroes on it09:39
christel:)09:39
AlanBelldiplo: there are shops in Farnham09:39
popeyAlanBell, do you have a screen i can plug the lug.org.uk box into so i can dban / dd zeroes on it?09:39
christelok! i must go investigate these magical skewers of davids!09:39
AlanBellpopey: sure09:39
popeycool, ta09:39
diploRight, shutting down and leaving once fueled up.. Cya soon!09:42
popeyo/09:43
bigcalmWhat's that a quote from?09:47
AlanBellanyone want to bring some stickers or something for name badges?10:18
jacobw'hi, my name is "bigcalm"'10:21
bigcalmjacobw: you should do that, not many people know me :)10:22
Laneynah, go for sabdfl instead10:23
brobostigonlol10:23
Laney. o O ( or rms )10:24
brobostigonor DC.10:24
brobostigonand then get lynched.10:25
AlanBellchristel: I am filling up the paddling pool10:29
AlanBellmight want to bring some spare clothes for the little chap10:30
bigcalm(and yourself)10:30
bigcalmI'd be there witha  water pistol10:31
jacobwhehe10:31
jacobwi'd be horrified if i was mistaken for rms10:31
bigcalmpopey: what was your quit message a quote from?10:33
popey:)10:34
popeyTMWRANJ10:34
bigcalmBlimey10:35
bigcalmBlast from the past10:35
popeywill cooke (ubuntu tv) has "now go do your hobbies!" as his10:36
popeywhich inspired me10:36
AlanBellpopey: paddling pool is being filled up10:37
MyrttiAlanBell: marking tape10:37
Myrttimasking even10:37
Myrttiwe're watching the opening ceremony off the iplayer and I want to shoot the commenter and we're not even to the Queens enterance on the show10:38
popeyheh10:38
popeymy kids are in the pool already!10:38
AlanBellgreat10:39
jacobwi haven't seen the queens entrance10:39
popeywakka wakka10:40
bigcalmI haven't seen any of the thing from last night10:41
bigcalmBut I read 4+ hours of tweets when I went to bed10:41
bigcalmSounds like the weirdest thing10:41
Myrttiwell we tried very hard to watch it live on the telly but then things (but not we) went south10:41
bigcalmMyrtti: :(10:42
bigcalmAll technology sucks when it goes kaput10:42
jacobwzdf.de live worked very well for me10:48
jacobwthe german voiceover was helpful :)10:49
MartijnVdSBBC One HD was nice on freesat :)10:49
christelAlanBell: \o/10:55
bigcalmTime to go out for the day and get some MEAT!10:59
bigcalmHave a fun BBQ you crazy kids :)10:59
FlashtekAnyone in here familiar with netboot installs ?11:04
jacobwi'm trying cinnamon11:07
jacobwomgwhyhaven'tdonethisbefore11:08
MartijnVdSbecause you're not American, and don't need to put it on ALL the things?11:14
jacobw:)11:14
jacobwer, i meant cinnamon.linuxmint.com ;)11:15
jacobwFlashtek: are you using the netinstall iso?11:22
Flashtekjacobw: trying to get the bloody thing to boot from network at the mo11:23
Flashtekdownloaded the netinstall.tar.gz, unpacked, setup dnsmasq and tftp server...11:24
Flashtekensured it's all fired up11:24
Flashtekand it doesn't boot.11:24
Flashtekand now my touch pad decided to stop working... ffs...11:24
Flashtekha... it's back again now11:28
Flashtekjump to terminal and back11:28
Flashtekjacobw: do i need to do anything "special" ?11:29
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* popey packs up to head over to AlanBells 12:26
SuperEngineerWishing you all a great time at the UUK BBQ - wish I was there :()  [nom nom]12:45
PendulumSuperEngineer: I think they're doing a google+ hangout12:46
SuperEngineeroooo -do you know what to search for - or is itt obvious12:46
* SuperEngineer hunts g=12:46
SuperEngineerg+12:46
SuperEngineerthat was *too* easy... fired up g+ & latest update points straight there... ;)12:49
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AlanBellhttps://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/c5950ebd288a5d757bf7a0f82691c5f13af2265a?authuser=0&hl=en# want to join the BBQ?13:53
Monotokoheh: http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/564575_482307075115263_75517501_n.jpg14:04
MyrttiMonotoko: https://plus.google.com/107063922467380085691/posts/Nf8pdHpCveM14:10
MonotokoMyrtti, point taken :P15:10
SuperEngineerUseful short review of the latest alpha from The H Open: http://tinyurl.com/Quantal-alpha315:30
SuperEngineerdamn netbook can't cope with google hangouts - runs out of memeory... tempted to swear here16:17
SuperEngineerto whoever said "hello" when I joined BBQ hangout on G+ ... hello!  Sorry - G+ hangout eventuslly hung with "out of memory" :(16:21
SuperEngineerdamn netbook!16:22
SuperEngineerdamn desktop pooter not having a webcam!16:22
SuperEngineerdamn!16:22
MartijnVdS:|16:23
SuperEngineer[yeah, I was the one with name B#### B####16:24
SuperEngineerHowever -i don't give up easily - time for one more attempt16:26
jussibbq hang ot was fun :D16:27
jussiElodi was really awake and happy, which helped :D16:27
SuperEngineerjussi: thanks - that makes me feel sooo much better... not!!!!16:28
SuperEngineerweeeee - made it!16:32
PendulumSuperEngineer: I'm the other hangout person who isn't actually at the BBQ16:33
SuperEngineerHi Pendulum16:34
SuperEngineernice to see another "ghost"16:34
Pendulum:)16:34
SuperEngineerooo - a black pussycat just crossed my virtual path16:35
ali1234is it a good idea to use SQL enum?16:48
ali1234are they widely supported? any possible problems?16:48
njaHi16:52
SuperEngineerhmmm - v. impolite [perhaps they're too drunk]. I ask if mike if working, BBQ idiot replies "too noisy" and kills me!16:52
SuperEngineerVERY imploite & not in accordance with Code of Conduct16:53
ali1234wat16:53
SuperEngineerYou know who I'm talking too.. I'm just too polite to mention name here!16:53
PendulumSuperEngineer: we weren't hearing you at all16:53
SuperEngineerunlike drunk BBQ16:54
Pendulumand no video16:54
* SuperEngineer goesback to watching grand prix16:55
* penguin42 just returned from the Manchester Mini-maker faire - nice to see some people I hadn't seen for a while, and a few faces I'd not seen in the flesh16:57
AlanBellSuperEngineer: sorry, it was just loads of banging noises16:57
AlanBelland no picture16:58
SuperEngineerAlanBell: that's why I was asking if anyone had me on voice [or vid] b4 cutoff - I'll let you off - this time ;)16:59
AlanBell:)16:59
AlanBelldo you have a microphone that isn't on your keyboard?17:00
SuperEngineerit was netbook with all built in - desktop has no webcam [RIP]17:00
AlanBellawww17:02
AlanBellthat is so sad17:02
AlanBell:(17:02
AlanBell(says christel)17:02
AlanBellish17:02
AlanBellor alan.. i dunno17:02
AlanBell:D17:03
AlanBellczajkowski is a rubbish slave :(17:03
nja@AlanBell Hi!17:03
bigcalmEverybody having fun at the BBQ?17:04
Pendulumbigcalm: come join the hangout!17:04
AlanBellyesss#17:04
njaCAn I have the link?17:04
AlanBellno17:04
Pendulumhttps://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/c5950ebd288a5d757bf7a0f82691c5f13af2265a?authuser=0&hl=en#17:04
AlanBelllol,17:04
njaThere's a hangout :D17:04
nja:D17:04
bigcalmPendulum: working :(17:05
Pendulumbigcalm: so put it in the background17:05
ali1234penguin42: did you see a guy with a robot arm and 3d printer?17:06
ali1234(at the maker fair)17:06
SuperEngineerLesson from attempt at G+ BBQ hangout using netbook...17:08
penguin42ali1234: Erm well there are a few 3d printers17:08
SuperEngineerG+ hangouts use enough memory to kill/swamp netbook usage, Pigin [& Empathy] don't memory]17:08
penguin42ali1234: I don't specificalyl remember a robot arm - there were various robots17:08
SuperEngineer...don't swamp memory17:08
SuperEngineer...are you listening Mr. Google???17:10
njaI'm in17:11
njaI'm just not going to talk, I'm already in another call.17:11
ali1234penguin42: this one is life size https://plus.google.com/113908610041457856109/posts/Gcf46MP1ci917:11
penguin42ali1234: Hmm no, didn't notice that one to be honest17:13
ali1234well, i dunno if he was even there... but he does go to these things from time to time :)17:13
diploAlanBell: thanks again for the BBQ, was nice to meet you all.19:11
diploEvening all19:11
Pendulumhiya diplo19:13
popeydiplo, yeah, was lovely to meet you19:14
diploExhausted now :) should have gone home earlier last night :D19:16
diploSquash and sit down and watch qualifying i think now19:16
ali1234can i say "created DATETIME DEFAULT Now() NOT NULL,"19:31
ali1234or will that just make the default whenever the table was created?19:31
ali1234no, i can't19:34
ali1234though it's a commonly requested feature apparently :)19:35
ali1234ok i'm super confused now :(19:39
ali1234http://pastebin.com/WhEbKpu419:40
czajkowskiAloha20:19
popeypip pip20:19
popeylaptop okay?20:19
czajkowskinarp20:21
czajkowskiwouldnt clone to the size of the other hard drive20:21
czajkowskitis ok20:21
czajkowskiam probably gonna buy a desktop for main work20:22
czajkowskithough jon wants me to take mac mini and use that20:22
* MartijnVdS watches BBC Olympics 1620:23
MartijnVdSwaiting for audience shots :)20:23
popeyczajkowski, it can be done :(20:23
czajkowskipopey: thank yuo for the help20:24
czajkowskiand it was fun :)20:24
popeynp20:24
czajkowskikids tired ?20:25
popeyyeah, straight to bed20:26
czajkowskiheh20:29
czajkowskidiplo: enjoy the day ?20:29
czajkowskinice to put the face to the nick20:30
Pendulumczajkowski: I'm glad you had better weather than we're now getting (has been raining for the last 3 hours)20:34
diplohi czajkowski, yeah enjoyed myself thank you and was nice to meet you all.20:34
diplobrb20:35
ali1234was someone complaining about high i/o latency with USB the other day?21:30
ali1234oimon?21:31
popeyi think so21:33
ali1234oimon: what you can do about it is help me out on this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/77025821:33
lubotu3Ubuntu bug 770258 in linux (Ubuntu) "Extremely high latency when writing to USB drives." [Undecided,Incomplete]21:33
bigcalmYoohoo21:36
bigcalmI have that effect on people21:40
brobostigongood night everyone, sleep well.21:54
christelnorway > the uk in the olympics22:02
christelthat is all22:02
christel\o/22:02
Pendulumhaha22:03
christel:D22:03
* christel snogs Pendulum 22:04
Pendulum\o/22:04
PendulumI didn't know that was allowed in here ;-)22:04
christel\o/22:05
christelit probably isnt! ;)22:05
Pendulumnot that anyone seems to care at the moment :P22:05
* dwatkins raises an eyebrow and grins22:06
dwatkinsno-one saw you, I'm sure it's fine...22:07
christeli am on top of a roof22:07
christelsurrounded by people on drugs22:07
christelit is quite scary22:07
Pendulumchristel: just as long as no one thinks you're a radiator22:08
christellol22:08
christelyou're my favourite (hottest) radiator22:08
christeli told alan the radiator story22:08
PendulumDid you tell him how badly we broke Pascal?22:08
christelyes :D22:08
* christel giggles22:08
PendulumI'll warm you up anytime :P22:08
christelhe no longer thinks of me as sweet and innocent i am sure22:08
christelyay :D22:08
Pendulumhaha22:09
christelAlanBell: i have decided that your non-mint mint was lemon balm22:12
Pendulumthere was non-mint mint?22:13
christelyes!22:13
christelin the pimms!22:13
Pendulumcould it have been lemon mint? (which is different from lemon balm)22:14
christeloo maybe22:15
Pendulumtoo many types of mint22:17
christelmmm22:17
Dave2it was lemon balm22:28
Dave2I'm pretty sure22:28
Dave2Because I knew what it was, I just couldn't remember its name22:28
Dave2<Pendulum> Did you tell him how badly we broke Pascal? # compiled as FORTRAN, obviously.22:29
AlanBellit is edible apparently so that is OK22:29
Myrttiwe still haven't heard from the mechanic what the verdict about the car is :-(22:30
christelMyrtti: :(22:31
PendulumMyrtti: oh dear :(22:31
christelMyrtti: you missed out on my amazing quails egg skewers!22:31
christelthey were CUTE22:31
Dave2you forgot the bacon22:32
christel(because they were like tiny eg..wait.. they normally are.. nevermind)22:32
christelmmm bacon \o/22:32
AlanBellthey were lovely!22:32
Dave2tiny :(22:32
Pendulumchristel: did you take a pic? I didn't get to see them either :(22:32
Myrttichristel: you missed out on my marinated courgettes and mushrooms filled with cream cheese, wrapped in bacon22:32
Dave2I sense a theme here22:32
Dave2Of bacon.22:32
Dave2I would be having bacon tomorrow morning, but I think I've had enough meat for now22:32
christeloh god yes, lets reschedule the bbq for tomorrow \o/22:32
* AlanBell failed to take a picture of the awesome food /o\22:32
christelPendulum: oh no :(22:33
christeli made way too much random food :x22:33
MyrttiAlanBell: I even packed a camera just for that22:33
Dave2They looked like quail's eggs22:33
Dave2wrapped in bacon22:33
christelhehe22:33
AlanBellMyrtti: so sorry you couldn't make it22:33
christelyeah, would have been fab to see you!22:33
Myrttias much as I love you, I'm more sorry about the possible 1000+ mechanics bill22:33
christelmmthat sucks a bit22:34
Myrttis/1000+/£1000+/22:34
Myrttisome predictions have been at 150022:34
Myrttishall see what happens22:34
Dave2ow22:35
christeldo you know what broke?22:35
penguin42the one time I feel less sorry about the cost of train fares is when I hear peoples car bill stories22:36
christelhehe22:36
Myrttino not yet, the guys from the garage came in to pick it up, added water in and it leaked immediately, they said they have to fix that first to see if it's just some pipe or something that's broke, after that if it doesn't fix the problem, basically (apparently) the whole car needs to be taken apart into atoms to see if (both) headgaskets are gone22:37
christel1322:37
christelthat sounds a bit sucky/potentially rubbish :(22:38
matttMyrtti: i blew a headgasket while driving up north a few years ago22:54
mattti just left the car there and had a guy from the AA help me get it destroyed22:54
christeldid diplo make it home?22:54
Myrttimattt: torched it?23:07
Myrtti:-P23:07
Myrttino, don't tell23:08
penguin42let it get nicked?23:08
Pendulumchristel: he's been back on IRC so I assume so23:11
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=== Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away
PendulumMyrtti: ouch (re: car)23:12
matttMyrtti: nah, the AA man literally took the car to the scrap for me and sent me a cheque a week later :)23:13

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