[00:23] <Daskreech> nobodhi: I'm told try Lubunut and Jolios
[00:24] <nobodhi> Jolios is very cloud-based? or is ther peppermint?
[00:25] <nobodhi> I was going to try lubuntu this afternoon, but stuck e17 - testing it now
[00:25] <nobodhi> *bodhilinux
[00:29] <nobodhi> So, I'm currently running kubuntu on Desktop and Bodhilinux on laptop
[00:29] <nobodhi> Daskreech, was there a particular reason, other than lxde is a light WM ?
[00:31] <nobodhi> http://linux-hybrid-graphics.blogspot.co.uk/2011/07/acer-aspire-timelinex-3830t-4830t-5830t.html that's my machine except I dont have a dedicated nvidia graphics card. Ths one's got integrated 3000 hd or somthing.
[00:37] <Daskreech> livingdaylight: Not that I know of
[00:38] <livingdaylight> Daskreech, ok, thx
[00:55] <walzmyn> Just built a new machine with a Radeon vid card and I cannot get the sound to work with the HDMI output.
[01:21] <skreech__> Walzmyn: hmm lt me check on something
[01:25] <Daskreech> Walzmyn: maybe #phoronix ?
[02:23] <Guest66857> hello
[02:57] <Oyukito> what vervion of kde comes with kubuntu 12.04?
[04:28] <nionrion> May be offtopic
[04:28] <nionrion> does anyone do horseback riding?
[04:29] <Daskreech> can you apt- get it?
[05:44] <em> i tried "sudo aptitude install clementine" and it is giving me unmet dependencies and wants to uninstall a bunch of stuff.
[05:44] <em> aptitude is totally choking in other words
[05:56] <Daskreech> maybe you are mixing repos?
[07:09] <Shaan7> Riddell: hi :)
[08:27] <Frank-Man> Morning Community, who can i change the search Shortcut for alt+f2  ?
[08:41] <livingdaylight> gm
[08:54] <nag_> hi all i have installed kde on ubuntu 12.04. Can some one tell me how can i remove it & get back to ubuntu12.04
[08:54] <nag_> kde-desktop
[08:55] <bazhang> !puregnome | nag_
[08:57] <nag_> bazhang: yes puregnome
[08:58] <nag_> ubottu: thnx
[08:58] <bazhang> nag_, did you read that link?
[08:59] <nag_> bazhang: i found this cmd "sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop". i am using 12.04 but in that link it is only for 11.10
[09:43] <gaurav__> guys help needed
[09:43] <Tm_T> yes?
[09:43] <gaurav__> im using kubuntu after many years
[09:44] <gaurav__> so there was this software manager tht i use to use but ive forgotten its name
[09:44] <gaurav__> and muon sucks
[09:44] <paolina> #ubuntu-it
[09:44] <gaurav__> so can u just throw a few names at me
[09:44] <gaurav__> no pao that aint it
[09:45] <gaurav__> i remember tht after a distro they had stopped using it as the default one
[09:45] <gaurav__> ok what should i put in the search string in muon?
[09:45] <gaurav__> maybe i would remember if i see it
[09:46] <gaurav__> 'software managers' didnt help
[09:48] <rork> gaurav__: synaptic / kynaptic? search for something like package manager
[09:48] <gaurav__> k
[09:49] <gaurav__> was there something named as adept or something?
[09:59] <rork> !info adept | gaurav__
[09:59] <gaurav__> oh......thank u guys
[10:06] <gaurav__> wtf adept is not there in the repositories
[10:07] <rork> gaurav__: do you have universe enabled?
[10:08] <gaurav__> main, restricted, universe, multiverse are all ticked
[10:09] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[10:09] <aziz> hey guys, I set up a shared connection, so that my mobile (USB) connection is shared over WLAN. everything connects fine in Network Manager, but the WLAN connection is not visible for other devices. any ideas?
[10:10] <gaurav__> hey pheonix
[10:10] <phoenix_firebrd> gaurav__: hi
[10:11] <gaurav__> how u doing today?
[10:11] <gaurav__> i guess ill have to do with muon for a while
[10:11] <phoenix_firebrd> gaurav__: fine, u?
[10:11] <gaurav__> im doing great
[10:11] <phoenix_firebrd> aziz: i guess the wlan device is your laptop
[10:11] <aziz> exactly
[10:11] <gaurav__> except im fucking pissed with muon and im trying to search adept
[10:12] <phoenix_firebrd> gaurav__: whats wrong
[10:12] <gaurav__> i cant find adept
[10:12] <phoenix_firebrd> aziz: which if it is configured to be hidden
[10:12] <aziz> using iwconfig/ifconfig I can see that the interface is up and running
[10:12] <phoenix_firebrd> gaurav__: what is adept?
[10:13] <aziz> yea, I thought about that, but I don't see where I can alter that setting.
[10:13] <gaurav__> its a software package manager for kubuntu
[10:13] <gaurav__> ive used it in the previous versions
[10:13] <aziz> and even so, shouldn't it be possible to access it by manually entering the SSID and the passphrase?
[10:14] <phoenix_firebrd> if its not found by muon then its been removed from ubuntu repositories
[10:14] <phoenix_firebrd> gaurav__: ^
[10:14] <Tm_T> !language | gaurav__
[10:14] <gaurav__> oh lol
[10:14] <gaurav__> i got a warning to check my language :P
[10:15] <Tm_T> also adept is still in repositories
[10:15] <Tm_T> gaurav__: it's not amusing, we expect the following of channel rules while being in the channel
[10:15] <phoenix_firebrd> aziz: http://askubuntu.com/questions/124144/how-to-set-up-a-wifi-hotspot-using-kubuntu-12-04
[10:15] <aziz> phoenix_firebrd: can I configure the visibility of my WLAN somewhere? with NM?
[10:16] <gaurav__> ok ok i'll keep a check on my language
 can u assist me how i can find adept?
[10:16] <aziz> phoenix_firebrd: i have an Intel chip, too :(
[10:17] <phoenix_firebrd> gaurav__: did you terminate the update-xapi process in the past?
[10:17] <gaurav__> nope
[10:18] <phoenix_firebrd> aziz: did you try what is said in the link that i gave you?
[10:18] <aziz> yes, that's how I set up the shared connection
[10:18] <aziz> well, I'll try with WEP disabled
[10:19] <Tm_T> gaurav__: if all other methods fails, try using commandline: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install adept"
[10:19] <phoenix_firebrd> aziz: the problem is i dont have a wireless device in my desktop and so i cant help you much
[10:20] <aziz> it's okay, thanks for taking interest in my problem at least ;)
[10:20] <Tm_T> gaurav__: "sudo apt-get update" runs apt package list update with sudo rights, and "sudo apt-get install adept" installs adept with sudo rights
[10:20] <phoenix_firebrd> aziz: :)
[10:21] <gaurav__> okie dokie tmt i'll give it a shot
[10:21] <aziz> tried without WEP, but it doesn't work either :(
[10:21] <phoenix_firebrd> gaurav__: why do you use adept whn you have muon?
[10:22] <Tm_T> phoenix_firebrd: why not?
[10:22] <gaurav__> well in adept it shows exactly how much speed im getting for downloads and how much time is remaining
[10:22] <gaurav__> so it becomes easier for me to understand if the net has got dcd
[10:22] <phoenix_firebrd> Tm_T: whats wrong with muon?
[10:23] <Tm_T> phoenix_firebrd: I don't know, I haven't really used GUI package managers lately
[10:23] <gaurav__> whereas in muon it shows a small box in the top right corner which shows downloading and installing bar
[10:23] <Tm_T> gaurav__: so it's not verbose enough on its doings?
[10:23] <phoenix_firebrd> The iupcoming qml version of muon is very good
[10:24] <gaurav__> well Tm_T im not very familiar with the tech jargoans (verbose) but im gonna say yes
[10:24] <gaurav__> there was a time when i had formatted my comp 47 times in a night just cos i wanted to learn how to use linux
[10:25] <gaurav__> and now ive become such a noob cos of such a long gap
[10:25] <Tm_T> gaurav__: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/verbose (:
[10:26] <gaurav__> oooohhhh
[10:26] <gaurav__> ya tmt it lacks in infor
[10:27] <gaurav__> info*
[10:27] <gaurav__> but its just a matter of preference
[10:27] <gaurav__> muon is pretty fucntional otherwise
[10:28] <phoenix_firebrd> gaurav__: can you file a feature request for the download speed/ time remaining in kde bugs?
[10:28] <gaurav__> ya surely
[10:28] <phoenix_firebrd> gaurav__: you know , your's is a good idea
[10:29] <gaurav__> oh thnx.... ill file the report right waya
[10:29] <gaurav__> away*
[10:40] <gaurav__> TMT I GOT ADEPT THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:50] <BluesKaj> Hiyas  all
[10:54] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: hi
[10:55] <BluesKaj> hey phoenix_firebrd
[12:22] <BluesKaj> !custom
[13:18] <mat619> hey there! just installed kubuntu-desktop since i was fed up with XFCE (had installed xubuntu 12.04 earlier). works nicely so far, if it wasn't for the VERY poor performance: my thinkpad r60 has a intel 945GM graphic chip, which should be able to handle KDE 4 i think, shouldn't it?
[13:20] <mat619> if i click onto the Kickoff button, nothing happens for 4-5 seconds, then it opens. maybe. or not, sometimes it closes itself again before I can do anything. window animations just don't work, the windows just appear suddenly after a pause of the whole system.
[13:21] <mat619> same thing goes for closing applications. right clicking the desktop shows the same behaviour... just like if the animations were skipped completely, because my graphic card isn't used somehow
[13:22] <localhost> mat619: I have the same and all is fine
[13:22] <mat619> localhost: i had some release of opensuse with KDE4.3 or 4.4 running fine on the same machine as well
[13:22] <mat619> localhost: that's why I'm kinda confused
[13:23] <localhost> mat619: if you disable graphics effects with shift+alt+F12 it works better ?
[13:23] <mat619> localhost: yes, snappy like hell
[13:23] <mat619> localhost: reacts instantly
[13:24] <localhost> mat619: so go to the pannel to fix that... I use opengl or raster
[13:24] <mat619> localhost: go to the panel and fix what?  O.o  sorry, don't get it
[13:25] <localhost> mat619: the panel with the tool icon
[13:25] <mat619> you mean the desktop effects configuration module?
[13:25] <localhost> yep
[13:26] <localhost> try opengl
[13:26] <localhost> and choose your effects
[13:26] <mat619> it was set to open GL, but using v2 shaders
[13:26] <localhost> personaly I use lots
[13:26] <mat619> i disabled those, now it works MUCH better
[13:27] <localhost> you can reenable it but preffer open gl or raster (you have to install the raster kcm) and choose well your effects
[13:28] <localhost> and last kde is not heavier
[13:28] <mat619> i personally can't see a difference between v2 shaders and v1. it runs snappy with all animations, very smooth
[13:28] <mat619> better than anything else i've seen. thanks, you pointed me in the very right direction
[13:29] <jdrs> Disabling the blur effect might work.
[13:29] <mat619> another question now, maybe some of you has an idea: i like to have a osx-style dock for window management. any suggestions what to use with KDE4?
[13:30] <localhost> maybe superkaramba
[13:30] <mat619> i used docky with XFCE before, but I'm not sure how nice it plays with KDE4. wouldn't mind a replacement anyhow, never have been too happy about its settings
[13:31] <BluesKaj> cairo dock ? I haven't used it for yrs but it was pretty cool
[13:33] <mat619> oh cairo, had totally forgotten about that one
[13:33] <mat619> might be worth a look
[13:33] <localhost> mat619: kde is really smooth and lots of fantastic stuffs I hope you'll anjoy it
[13:33] <jdrs> http://glx-dock.org/ <-cairo
[13:34] <BluesKaj> I just use the quicklauncher , not reall eye candyish , but gets the job done
[13:35] <mat619> localhost: I've been a long KDE 3 user, but once made the switch to gnome 2 and was very happy with it. then when unity and gnome 3 came i tried both, disliked both, and ran to XFCE. i tried KDE 4 in the meantime but were too annoyed by its non-existent stability at the time
[13:36] <mat619> localhost: but since 4.5 it started to grow on me again. now I'll change both my personal PCs  / laptops and my workstation at work to kubuntu 12.04, because it seems to get the job done best for me
[13:38] <localhost> KDE4 is not KDE3 for sure...
[13:40] <BluesKaj> kde4 is vastly improved since it's introduction , I hated it at first because it was so unstable , but now it's vastly superior to unity and gnome 3 IMO
[13:42] <BluesKaj> tried to give unity and gnome a chance with full ubuntu install on it's own partition , it has some neat qualities , but not enough to keep me around .
[13:51] <localhost> I don't want to say bad things but unity ... metro...
[13:54] <BluesKaj> localhost:  you're allowed an opinion based on your experience ...IMO :)
[13:55] <localhost> on KDE for pad and tactil screen le laptop desktop or active plasma are awsome
[14:20] <Guest69980> hello - what is the intallation line required to install kubuntu or the kde desktop environment ontop of an already existing install of ubuntu?   sudo apt-get ....?
[14:22] <BluesKaj> Guest69980:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[14:22] <Guest69980> really.. huh, derpy derp.  Thanks so much blueskaj - have been looking for that for a while now.
[14:23] <BluesKaj> yeah it does the full install
[14:24] <Guest69980> huh, now I'm getting this:E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[14:24] <Guest69980> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[14:24] <BluesKaj> Guest69980:  then you can choose a desktop at login , if you still have ubuntu-desktop
[14:24] <BluesKaj> Guest69980:  do you have a package manager open
[14:24] <BluesKaj> ?
[14:24] <Guest69980> ok, yep
[14:25] <jdrs> Guest69980: are you running anything related to updates or something?
[14:25] <jdrs> Or installing something?
[14:25] <Guest69980> yes - just quit it
[14:25] <BluesKaj> apt-get and the package manager both us ethe dpkg system
[14:26] <Guest69980> pow! thanks guys you are my hero
[14:26] <jdrs> You have to remove the lock and rerun it then Ctrl-c to interrupt it
[14:26] <Guest69980> downloading now
[14:26] <jdrs> Oh
[14:26] <jdrs> oka
[14:26] <Guest69980> thanks
[14:26] <jdrs> okay*
[14:31] <basoke> hello, has anyone done some meddling with xorg.conf before?
[14:36] <Guest69980> what are the differences between kdm and lightdm
[14:36] <Guest69980> ?
[14:36] <Guest69980> would it matter which one I chose?
[14:37] <Guest69980> ok -restarting comp now - thanks for all the help
[14:58] <BluesKaj> well, enlightenment doesn't seem to live up to it's name , not my cuppa tea
[15:30] <xinreal> hi
[15:30] <basoke> hello
[15:31] <xinreal> how is every thing
[15:31] <xinreal> first time to me on public chat
[15:31] <basoke> IRCs are more like help-rooms
[15:31] <xinreal> mmm i c
[15:34] <Riddell> hi xinreal
[15:35] <Riddell> random chat if you /join #kubuntu-offtopic
[15:35] <Riddell> here is help
[15:35] <xinreal> hi riddell
[16:10] <gaurav__> TMT
[16:10] <gaurav__> good evening
[16:11] <gaurav__> thnx for the tips i got adept
[16:11] <gaurav__> does anyone knw where the libs for wine are?
[16:11] <gaurav__> it tells me i need to specify them
[16:13] <gaurav__> wine libs anyone?
[16:17] <BluesKaj> !winehq
[16:18] <gaurav__> okie dokie i'll check it out
[16:18] <gaurav__> thnx
[16:24] <miroslav_> algen que es español ?
[16:24] <miroslav_> todo el mundo se va a callar
[17:29] <artao> L3top, you around?
[17:30] <artao> not seeing him/her/it listed
[17:30] <artao> oh well
[17:54] <alex_> Salut tout le monde
[17:54] <alex_> Je cherche une personne qui pourrait m'aider sur le logiciel dd
[17:54] <Tm_T> !fr | alex_
[18:19] <tommy_> hello
[18:20] <tommy_> crazy, i didnt know ppl still used irc
[18:20] <tommy_> *mind blown
[18:36] <WebDevinci> lame... ppl are here, but are not 'here'
[18:40] <BluesKaj> WebDevinci:   just ask a question and usually ppl magically appear ... most of the time
[19:17] <borlax> heyo
[19:18] <borlax> anyone know a way to get the battery monitor to show time remaining?
[19:18] <borlax> is it possible with the default kde battery monitor?
[19:39] <Lynoure> my skype just started crashing recently :/
[19:39] <Lynoure> at login, pretty much
[19:39] <Lynoure> Does that happen to others too?
[19:42] <localhost> Lynoure: I have the same this morning
[19:43] <localhost> Lynoure: sudo apt-get remove --purge skype skype-bin
[19:43] <localhost> Lynoure: if it stay installed do sudo dpkg -r --purge skype skype-bin
[19:44] <localhost> Lynoure: after that go in your home folder and remove the hiden folder .skype
[19:44] <localhost> and reinstall itwill work again
[20:03] <Num83rGuy> I have encrypted traffic coming from a strange IP on my LAN.  How can i find what is using this IP?
[20:12] <Num83rGuy> Mever mind found the culprit.
[20:17] <BankZ|2> ok, just installed kubuntu for the first time
[20:17] <BankZ|2> it didnt start the desktop
[20:17] <BankZ|2> shouldnt it do that by default?
[20:17] <BankZ|2> or did I screw something up?
[20:20] <xevil> BankZ|2: yes it should... perhaps it didn't correctly identify your video card
[20:22] <BankZ|2> OK, its a VM, maybe I need to keep it in focus
[20:22] <xevil> VM?
[20:23] <xevil> BankZ|2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=690760
[20:30] <avpx> I have two boxes running Kubuntu on the same LAN and I want to remote desktop from one into the other. Is there a better solution than XDMCP or VNC? Both are really slow.
[20:34] <BluesKaj> !ssh | avpx
[20:34] <avpx> Yeah, I'm really quite familiar with SSH
[20:35] <avpx> That doesn't solve the problem that I mentioned
[20:36] <BluesKaj> i used bothh ssh and VNC , they both have theire good qualities , the you could also try sshfs , but i found it would have to be reset after some upgrades
[20:37] <BluesKaj> so want to do remote desktop control ?
[20:37] <avpx> Yeah.
[20:37] <avpx> I know what sshfs is, it really has nothing to do with what I want
[20:38] <BluesKaj> Iused X forwarding with ssh ,and it worked quite well
[20:40] <BluesKaj> anyway BBL , ...steaks on the BBQ
[20:40] <avpx> Okay, later.
[20:50] <BluesKaj> ssh X forwarding worked great with ethernet on both kubuntu pcs , but with the laptop the X forwarding was pretty slow on the client pc
[20:50] <BluesKaj> the laptop was on a wifi connection
[20:51] <BluesKaj> avpx: ^
[20:51] <avpx> Yeah.
[21:16] <BankZ> Im trying to install kubuntu in a VM but it doesnt seem to be installing kde
[21:16] <BankZ> goes right to a command prompt
[21:16] <BarkingFish> Evening guys.  Does anyone know if there is support in Kubuntu anywhere, for the clickable scroll wheel mouse button please?
[21:17] <BarkingFish> In my old distro, prior to Kubuntu, I had a function where I could scroll up and down pages without using the wheel, simply by clicking it and moving the mouse up or down, the page would follow like a teleprompter.
[21:18] <BankZ> any ideas?
[21:19] <BarkingFish> BankZ, since I only just joined, I missed your problem. Would you be kind enough as to repeat it please? :)
[21:19] <BankZ> Im trying to install kubuntu in a VM but it doesnt seem to be installing kde
[21:19] <BankZ> goes right to a command prompt
[21:19] <BarkingFish> ah.  Have you tried to start KDE and see if it works?
[21:20] <BankZ> wasnt installed
[21:20] <BankZ> very odd
[21:20] <BarkingFish> Can you start an x server?
[21:20] <BankZ> i installed it and rebooted
[21:20] <BankZ> but then when I clicked "home"
[21:20] <BankZ> it asked what app to use
[21:20] <BankZ> very odd
[21:20] <BankZ> gonna start over
[21:20] <BankZ> but I must be doing something wrong
[21:21] <BarkingFish> what happens when you start an x server?
[21:21] <BarkingFish> do you get any form of dm at all?
[21:21] <BankZ> after the reboot, kde started (after I mannully installed it
[21:22] <BarkingFish> ah.  I don't understand why it didn't install during the setup
[21:22] <BarkingFish> i must admit I don't know a whole lot about virtual machines, I've never used one since all my systems are sole distro only.  I never run more than one thing on a machine
[21:24] <BankZ> maybe its a problem with its "easy" mode
[21:24] <BankZ> ill just start over
[21:40] <BankZ> anyone else install in VMWare?
[21:57] <BankZ> What is the location of the gcc profram for your machine?
[21:57] <BankZ> what should I type?
[22:11] <skreech__> BankZ: gcc
[22:34] <Venom> is kubuntu still ubuntu at the bottom?
[22:34] <Venom> just ubuntu with KDE?
[23:18] <Daskreech> !kubuntu
[23:30] <RoleModel> hi
[23:32] <Daskreech> hi
[23:38] <Daskreech> what's up?