[02:37] <PAPI> Hello
[02:39] <PAPI> how can i acess my ubuntu 12.04 folders in lubuntu 12.04
[02:40] <PAPI> using my home network
[02:55] <taoseeker> oh hi papi
[07:41] <guest-F7GlEP> hi
[07:42] <guest-F7GlEP> I can't login with my username
[07:59] <guest-yerJ0g> Is this official lubuntu channel?
[09:12] <kodez> greetings everyone
[09:12] <kodez> how to install Qt in lubuntu 12.04?
[10:04] <can`t-login> ok I went out and googled and found out that it is inherent problem with lubuntu
[10:05] <can`t-login> but it doesn't give me enough information to solve my problem
[14:15] <ridcully1st_> hello, my openbox cinfig manager does not react ob keyboard inputs, could somebody help me with that
[15:21] <zleap> when i double click on a folder on my desktop it doesn't open (lubuntu 11.10)
[15:21] <zleap> ok it does it just takes a while
[15:48] <tbnorth> hi all - does lubuntu support installation to an encrypted LVM system?  I.e. only /boot unencrypted and LVM running on top of an encrypted partition - the installer doesn't seem to be asking for the pass phrase.
[15:56] <psilo23> afterwards it will ask you if i am right
[15:56] <psilo23> it does ask to encrypt the home dir if that is what you are asking about
[15:57] <tbnorth> psilo23: I have an existing enc. partition with LVM on it, it's not opening that up, and complains I haven't identified / when I try to install.
[15:57] <psilo23> ok not sure about that one
[16:35] <devart> Hi there, I am curious whether its possible to change the lubuntu lxde to a gnome session if any one is available
[16:36] <Unit193> Might be better to ask that in #ubuntu, but install ubuntu-desktop to switch to Ubuntu with Unity, or install gnome-shell to use GNome3.
[16:37] <devart> will I lose any information already on disk?
[16:39] <Unit193> Shouldn't.
[16:39] <Unit193> !puregnome
[16:39] <devart> okay, gnome-shell is present in my repositories, where would i find ubuntu-desktop?
[16:40] <devart> i think i have a pure lxde install...
[16:41] <devart> ive installed lubuntu 12.04 from iso
[16:41] <devart> !Ubuntu system
[16:42] <Unit193> It's in the repo as well.
[17:23] <freeroute> hi, I think I got a broken upgrade. I wanted to upgrade 12.04, but had to suspend in the moment that it was asking me whether to keep /etc/bashrc or not
[17:23] <bioterror> upgrade your 12.04 to 12.10
[17:23] <bioterror> or what
[17:23] <freeroute> next thing I know, I come out of suspend, everything works great until it completely locks up, I have to reboot and the whole desktop seems set to default and deprived of icons
[17:24] <freeroute> I think from 11 to 12.04
[17:24] <bioterror> have you run dist-upgrade?
[17:25] <freeroute> yeah but dist-upgrade only upgraded skype
[17:25] <freeroute> and now I can't even connect to wifi
[17:25] <freeroute> (I did dist-upgrade before upgrading via Update Manager)
[17:26] <freeroute> now, UM is telling me that not all updates can be installed and I have to run a partial upgrade
[17:26] <freeroute> but when I try to do that, I get an error saying "Can not upgrade: An upgrade from 'precise' to 'oneiric' is not supported with this tool."
[17:27] <freeroute> so I guess this means complete re-install then?
[17:27] <bioterror> oh wells
[17:27] <bioterror> gimme
[17:27] <bioterror> lsb-release -cd
[17:28] <freeroute> just a moment, I have to plug in a usb stick to transfer the output of that :p
[17:31] <freeroute_> whoops, guess my wifi burped or something
[17:32] <freeroute_> it's actually pretty cool, chromium is all red now lol
[17:34] <freeroute> king is dead, long live the king
[17:34] <freeroute> is it possible to install ubuntu minimal from a usb stick actually?
[17:35] <freeroute> then I'll just install lubuntu-desktop or LXDE from there
[17:35] <bioterror> dd if=mini.iso of=/dev/sdX
[17:35] <freeroute> uh oh
[17:35] <freeroute> cool
[17:36] <freeroute> it kind of sucks that even USB devices are not recognized at the current state
[17:37] <freeroute> I guess it's time for little live USB!
[17:48] <freeroute> oooh great, I forgot my home folder was encrypted
[17:49] <freeroute> can I unencrypt this knowing my user's password?
[17:50] <freeroute> in the README.txt I found in the home folder it said that I had to run encryptfs-mount-private, but when I run that command I get an error saying "ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly"
[17:58] <freeroute> ok, seems I have to do these steps - http://goshawknest.wordpress.com/2010/04/16/how-to-recover-crypted-home-directory-in-ubuntu/
[18:01] <freeroute> I have trouble understanding step 2 thought - Mount your home partition in /home
[18:02] <freeroute> what is meant by this? mount the source (from where I have to do the backups) directory to live environment /home?
[18:50] <bioterror> freeroute, godspeed
[18:50] <bioterror> freeroute, I learned the hardway that encrypting home folder is just completely idiotic
[19:06] <freeroute> bioterror: I guess this time my tinfoil hat has covered my data instead of my privacy :(
[19:06] <bioterror> :D
[19:21] <Quaker> Hi. I'm having problems with Lubuntu's audio. It was working fine just yesterday after installation, but after installing such packages as Virtualbox and VLC, I come to find today that it refuses to work. There is no output from any device, and when I try to use the volume controls or configure them, it tells me that I must have a mixer installed to configure (I have Alsamixer installed).
[19:21] <zleap> is alsamixer still installed,
[19:21] <Quaker> Yes.
[19:22] <Quaker> No channels are muted.
[19:22] <zleap> sometimes things get removed when you installed something else
[19:22] <zleap> ok
[19:22] <zleap> hmm,
[19:22] <Quaker> If VLC removed ALSA then I'm gonna be pissed.
[19:22] <zleap> check its still installed
[19:23] <Quaker> Does it have a main package?
[19:23] <zleap> not sure
[19:23] <zleap> i am trying to figure out how to use dpkg to query the data base
[19:23] <bioterror> dpkg -l
[19:23] <Quaker> alsa-base is installed, as well as alsa-utils
[19:23] <Unit193> Pulse?
[19:24] <Quaker> PulseAudio is also installed.
[19:24] <Quaker> And, after an experiment with GNOMEPlayer.
[19:24] <Quaker> Is the only one that works.
[19:24] <zleap> dpkg -l alsa will tell you if its installed
[19:25] <zleap> pk dpkg -l fuse - no packages  and yet I can run fuse whic is a speccy emulator
[19:25] <Quaker> http://pastebin.com/FLL78iLy
[19:25] <zleap> pk = ok
[19:26] <Quaker> I assume that that isn't good.
[19:26] <zleap> well its not installed
[19:26] <zleap> compare with what you know is installed
[19:26] <zleap> dpkg - l vlc
[19:27] <zleap> and you see the difference
[19:28] <Quaker> so what the hell do I do?
[19:28] <zleap> not sure
[19:28] <bioterror> sudo apt-get install alsa
[19:28] <zleap> yeah
[19:28] <Quaker> http://pastebin.com/sKQ1h51q
[19:29] <zleap> but why would it remove alsa in the firstplace
[19:29] <Quaker> alsa-base is installed. "alsa" was the wrong package name.
[19:29] <Quaker> so alsa is installed.
[19:29] <zleap> ok
[19:30] <Quaker> Someone or something has swapped my audio drivers around.
[19:30] <zleap> sounds like it
[19:31] <Quaker> And I can't configure volume control or ANYTHING.
[19:31] <zleap> i remember issues with pulse a few years ago
[19:31] <Quaker> so. what the hell do I do?
[19:32] <zleap> try installing gnome-alsamixer - ALSA sound mixer for GNOME
[19:32] <zleap> bioterror, does that sound right to you
[19:32] <Quaker> doing so.
[19:33] <zleap> ok
[19:33] <Quaker> This is rediculous. Nothing like this should shit the bed after a day of use.
[19:33] <zleap> i agree
[19:33] <zleap> maybe someone on #ubuntu-uk can help we need a more active chat room
[19:35] <zleap> i have asked to see if someone can come in here to help
[19:35] <Quaker> Gnome-alsamixer fixed the problem.
[19:36] <Quaker> Well, of the configuration anyway.
[19:36] <Quaker> Still no sound.
[19:36] <zleap> can you run alsamixer
[19:37] <Quaker> yep.
[19:37] <Quaker> still there, as ever.
[19:37] <zleap> anything
[19:37] <zleap> is anything muted
[19:37] <Quaker> nothing is off. everything is fine. channels are up.
[19:37] <zleap> hmm
[19:37] <Quaker> I did an experiment earlier with GNOMEAudio.
[19:37] <zleap> is there a volume control on the panel
[19:37] <Quaker> Err, GNOMEPlayer.
[19:37] <Quaker> ...
[19:37] <Quaker> Yes.
[19:37] <zleap> what does that do
[19:38] <Quaker> Panel of what.
[19:38] <Quaker> On my PC? No, there is no front panel volume control.
[19:38] <zleap> panel at the bottom of the lxde screen
[19:38] <Quaker> And, it does nothing.
[19:38] <Quaker> That does nothing. Volume Control has no effect.
[19:38] <zleap> i mean at the bottom of the desktop there is a box thing with icons
[19:38] <zleap> that = panel i think
[19:38] <zleap> ok
[19:38] <Quaker> I did an experiment earlier with GNOMEPlayer by selecting the PulseAudio driver.
[19:39] <zleap> did that do anything
[19:39] <Quaker> Audio played fine.
[19:39] <zleap> maybe try that again
[19:39] <Quaker> So something must've switched my default driver.
[19:39] <Quaker> And I have no idea how to swap that back.
[19:39] <Quaker> Maybe uninstalling ALSA?
[19:40] <zleap> not sure
[19:40] <zleap> there should be a way to configure stuff
[19:40] <AlanBell> Quaker: do you still have lubuntu-desktop installed?
[19:40] <zleap> in vlc under preferences
[19:41] <zleap> under audio there is enble audio
[19:41] <AlanBell> that is a metapackage that makes sure all the other stuff is there
[19:41] <Quaker> AlanBell: lemme check.
[19:41] <zleap> thanks AlanBell
[19:41] <Quaker> Yes, I have it installed.
[19:41] <Quaker> 0.38
[19:42] <Quaker> And, I uninstalled VLC.
[19:42] <zleap> ok
[19:42] <AlanBell> what is it that doesn't play audio?
[19:42] <zleap> I think AlanBell can help more than i can
[19:43] <AlanBell> you say that stuff plays through pulse (which is what stuff should be played through)
[19:43] <Unit193> AlanBell: Alsa by default.
[19:43] <Quaker> ^ This.
[19:44] <AlanBell> alsa won't take input from multiple sources though will it
[19:44] <Quaker> It was playing fine through ALSA before I went and installed VLC.
[19:44] <zleap> have you re-booted at any point
[19:45] <Quaker> Yes. Just a few minutes ago.
[19:45] <AlanBell> ok, so my guess is that vlc pulled in pulse and now pulse is holding the alsa channel, which means other things can't use it
[19:45] <Quaker> If that were the case, wouldn't Pulse go under autoremove then?
[19:46] <zleap> AlanBell, iirc fuser command can help here
[19:46] <AlanBell> so they should play through pulse which will mix them all together, or you could remove pulse (and hope that sorts it out - I am not sure)
[19:46] <Quaker> I'll just get rid of Pulse.
[19:47] <Quaker> Going to reboot. This is really, really rediculous.
[19:47] <zleap> ok chat when you get back
[19:49] <bioterror> can you check from the package manager if VLC depends on pulse?
[19:49] <zleap> bioterror, hes rebooting
[19:49] <bioterror> seems so
[19:49] <bioterror> but you can do it to
[19:49] <zleap> i asked if he had rebooted not to suggest he should but to determine if he had,  at some point
[19:49] <bioterror> too
[19:49] <Unit193>   Recommends: vlc-plugin-pulse
[19:50] <bioterror> thoho
[19:50] <bioterror> it's just a plugin, but does it pull pulse itself too?
[19:50] <zleap> so why does all this happen , it seems random
[19:51] <zleap> then again,  i remember windows 98 and below having all sorts of fun installing stuff and breaking something else
[19:52] <bioterror> '98 was so long ago, cant remember
[19:52] <AlanBell> Gnome Ubuntu had pain moving to pulse, Lubuntu hasn't yet, but some applications are packaged in a way that presumes pulse is available
[19:52] <zleap> more recent Xp installed something and fully screwed up, some dodgy security program that got installed along side something else
[19:53] <zleap> AlanBell, ah
[19:53] <zleap> you would think that ubuntu 12.10 and lubuntu 12.10 (assuming this is what isbeing used) would have the same underpinning sound sub system
[19:54] <AlanBell> you would
[19:54] <AlanBell> pulse adds a tiny bit of latency and a touch more overhead and lubuntu is targeted as a lightweight thing
[19:54] <AlanBell> guess that is why it has not yet gone pulse
[19:54] <zleap> makes sense
[19:56] <Quaker> Done. Had to remove PulseAudio.
[19:56] <Quaker> Plays fine now. Never using PulseAudio again. Damn thing.
[19:57] <AlanBell> Quaker: well it works great, if everything uses it
[19:57] <bioterror> Quaker, never say never
[19:57] <AlanBell> multiple things can play at once so you can listen to music while playing a game or whatever
[19:58] <AlanBell> there is just a pain threshold to go through to reach the land of awesomeness
[19:58] <zleap> :)
[19:58] <zleap> try to install windows and forget to tell it you are in the UK
[19:58] <bioterror> with gnome3, I love it :-)
[19:59] <zleap> only with windows you don't end up with the same awsomeness as ubuntu
[19:59] <AlanBell> and you can do wacky things like play one thing through headphones and another through speakers, or play sound through another computer on the network
[19:59] <zleap> cool
[19:59] <zleap> or play videos across the network
[20:00] <Quaker> with Alsa?
[20:00] <zleap> vlc i think
[20:00] <Quaker> Oh, I know VLC.
[20:00] <zleap> yeah
[20:01] <zleap> AlanBell, is it possible to play dvd's across a network to a tv,  we have a panasonic viera tv, that connects to the internet,  so can i play a dvd across the network ?
[20:02] <AlanBell> yeah, vlc can do that fine
[20:02] <zleap> cool
[20:02] <AlanBell> but it brings in pulse ;)
[20:02] <zleap> i have a 2nd pc dual booting windows and ubuntu to experiment with
[20:03] <zleap> also my e-macine does nt have a dvd drive, so i can copy stuff over the network via the apache /var/www folder and then burn to dvd from 2nd pc
[20:03] <Unit193> AlanBell: Doesn't have to, else apt would be complaining to me every update.
[20:03] <Quaker> Well, PulseAudio fucks my system up.
[20:04] <Unit193> !ohmy
[20:04] <zleap> i need to er do that actually  so i can burn an iso of star trek new voyages ep 7 to dvd
[20:04] <Quaker> Excuse me, *screws
[20:04] <zleap> lol
[20:08] <bioterror> I would just stream it over the network
[20:08] <zleap> ok
[20:08] <zleap> so how do i do that
[20:08] <zleap> or what do i need on pc to stream stuff
[20:08] <bioterror> if you have a pc connected to tv
[20:08] <Unit193> Well VLC can stream, but you can also setup samba.
[20:08] <bioterror> then you just run xbmc for example
[20:08] <zleap> ok
[20:09] <bioterror> and it works nicely
[20:09] <zleap> well i have pc connected to main router
[20:09] <zleap> tv connected to a wifi box thingy, which connects wirelessly to the wireless router
[20:09] <zleap> tp link wifi extender or something
[20:11] <bioterror> I could sell my HTPC for ya ;-)
[20:12] <zleap> its ok i need a project over the summer holidays
[20:12] <zleap> esp if it starts to rain
[20:15] <zleap> 10.5 gb of trash
[20:15] <zleap> deleted most of it,  now its saying no such fileo r directory for the stuff it didn't delete
[20:16] <zleap> file or directory
[20:17] <Quaker> Reboot.
[20:37] <Jagst3r15> hi. does lubuntu have chromium 18 or is it up to date
[20:37] <zleap> er hold on
[20:38] <Unit193> 18.0.1025.168~r134367-0ubuntu0.12.04.1
[20:38] <Unit193> !info chromium-browser
[20:38] <Jagst3r15> that is disappointing
[20:38] <zleap> Jagst3r15, 18.0.1025.168 (Developer Build 134367 Linux) Ubuntu 11.10
[20:38] <Jagst3r15> i thought maybe they would have the most recent one since its default browser
[20:38] <zleap> but that is for lubuntu 11.10 i think
[20:38] <Unit193> It has whatever Ubuntu repo has.
[20:38] <zleap> 12.04 may be more up to date
[20:38] <zleap> ok
[20:39] <Jagst3r15> ok thanks
[20:48] <IdleOne> I'm not sure how wanting to use know stable builds of software is bad
[20:48] <IdleOne> known*
[20:50] <Jagst3r15> idleone what
[20:51] <IdleOne> Jagst3r15: the latest version of an application is not always the best.
[20:52] <Jagst3r15> idleone that is true but I think having version 18 is kind of too out of date
[20:52] <Jagst3r15> since its at 21
[20:52] <IdleOne> it is only out of date if security updates are not applied, which they are.
[20:52] <Jagst3r15> well the point is
[20:52] <IdleOne> what does v21 offer over v18?
[20:52] <Jagst3r15> better dev tools
[20:53] <IdleOne> A dev wouldn't need it to be in the repos
[20:53] <IdleOne> they would be able to compile it if they needed to.
[20:54] <Jagst3r15> IdleOne i know what you're saying, but I think the chromium ppa maintainer just quit
[20:55] <Jagst3r15> so its not really that they stopped because its stable
[20:55] <Jagst3r15> just because there was no one on the team :p
[20:55] <Jagst3r15> or not enough people rather
[20:55] <IdleOne> if you are able to, pick it up and keep maintaining.
[20:56] <Jagst3r15> I'll see
[20:57] <Jagst3r15> I'm just trying to get it up for people who can't or don't know how to do it on their own
[20:57] <kanliot> I can get it up
[20:57] <Jagst3r15> even though these people probablly dont check the version # anyway :p
[20:58] <Jagst3r15> kanliot problem is we need to contact the guy in charge of the chromium ppa and he might not want to update it
[21:11] <jenpc> Hi.  I was in the middle of upgrading from Lubuntu 11.10 to 12.04 via "sudo do-release-upgrade".  Current situation is instead of showing a prompt and waiting for me to hit carriage return to say "OK" or whatever, it shows the usual terminal "user@host:~$" prompt.  What happened leading up to this was:
[21:13] <jenpc> I left the computer while it was doing the download.  When I came back, the LXTerminal was blue background and had a message about the display manager and whether to use the default display manager (lxdm) or chose another one as the default.  I took its suggestion.
[21:14] <jenpc> The next thing it said was while configuring libc6, "xscreensaver and xlockmore must be restarted before upgrading" and a message about that.
[21:16] <jenpc> Before hitting carriage return for that one, I opened a new LXTerminal and did "ps -ef | grep xscreen" and killed the "xscreensaver -no-splash" process.
[21:17] <jenpc> Then I went back to the terminal window in which the upgrade was taking place, and where the "OK" (or whatever) had been, it had my usual prompt.  If I hit enter, it repeats the prompt, but immediately to the right instead of underneath.
[21:19] <jenpc> The upgrade process hasn't released its lock.  (If I try to run again in the 2nd terminal, it's unable to get an exclusive lock.)  And based on the results of "ps -ef | grep upgr" at least parts of it are still running.
[21:20] <jenpc> Specifically 3 processes:
[21:20] <jenpc> /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/share/debconf/frontend /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst upgrade 2.13-20ubuntu5.1
[21:20] <jenpc>  /bin/sh /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst upgrade 2.13-20ubuntu5.1
[21:21] <jenpc>  whiptail --backtitle Package configuration --title Configuring libc6 --output-fd 11 --nocancel --msgbox xscreensaver and xlockmore must be restarted before upgrading??One or more running instances of xscreensaver or xlockmore have been detected on this system. Because of incompatible library changes, the upgrade?of the GNU libc library will leave you unable to authenticate to these programs. You should arrange for these programs t
[21:23] <bioterror> so nothing is happening in that terminal
[21:23] <jenpc> Right
[21:23] <jenpc> Nothing is happening there, and when I hit "enter" it repeats the prompt again
[21:23] <bioterror> hmmm
[21:25] <jenpc> (That last process is the display one that I'd like to return to correctly.)  If that's not possible, then perhaps can kill the upgrade processes and restart?  Worst case I can download 12.04 ISO and do a clean install instead of upgrade.
[21:25] <jenpc> I haven't come across anything of use in web searches yet.
[21:35] <bioterror> quite bad situation
[21:35] <bioterror> technically what I would do: kill the upgrade process
[21:35] <bioterror> and continue with the dist-upgrade :P
[21:38] <jenpc> So you would kill the first process I listed (the one that ends in "upgrade 2.13-20ubuntu5.1" and is the one that spawned the other 2)?
[21:38] <bioterror> I would go frenzy!
[21:39] <jenpc> and then try re-issuing the "sudo do-release-upgrade" command and see what happens?
[21:39] <bioterror> if there's already upgrade done half way, I would just apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:39] <jenpc> Ah
[21:41] <Tekaylus> Hello, is this where I go to get help?
[21:41] <bioterror> Tekaylus, some people come here for advices
[21:42] <bioterror> !ask | Tekaylus
[21:45] <Tekaylus> I am using Lubuntu 12.04 and I am unable to run executables in the gui.  When I try it says Exucute File: This an executable do you want to execute?  I have tried selecting both execute and execute in terminal on several files but it does nothing.  When I run them from the terminal it works just fine.
[21:46] <kanliot> Tekaylus, are you talking about alt-f2?  what exactly are you typing?
[21:47] <Tekaylus> I'm just double clicking on executable files.
[21:47] <kanliot> i don't understand
[21:48] <Tekaylus> In the Gui, I am double clicking on executables, and it does nothing.  But when I run them in the terminal they work.
[21:48] <kanliot> ahh pcmanfm?
[21:49] <kanliot> what executable?
[21:49] <Tekaylus> Yeah, or just on the desktop.
[21:50] <Tekaylus> I am trying MapTool.  It's specifically Launch Maptool.sh
[21:50] <kanliot> yah not working here either
[21:50] <kanliot> file a bug?
[21:51] <Tekaylus> It works just fine when running it the terminal
[21:51] <kanliot> execute in terminal is broke here, not the other
[21:52] <bioterror> I have no idea what's maptool, but but
[21:53] <bioterror> could be an issue about path
[21:53] <bioterror> :-)
[21:55] <Tekaylus> hmm, so i have to have a directory in the path in order to run it's executable from a gui?
[21:56] <Unit193> chmod +x ?
[21:57] <kanliot> yah that's probably it.  how are you running the script in the command line?
[21:59] <jenpc> bioterror, thanks for the suggestion to apt-get dist-upgrade.  I killed the upgrade process, and tried the dist-upgrade, but my system seems to be in an unstable state and it won't allow that.  So I'm downloading the ISO so I can burn it to CD and do a fresh install.
[22:00] <Tekaylus> argg, can't start with/.  like this $/home/[user]/Portable\ Apps/MapTool/Launch\ Maptool.sh
[22:00] <bioterror> jenpc, explain unstable state?
[22:01] <jenpc> bioterror, when I typed "Y" to continue after it told me how much disk space would be used, it said:
[22:01] <jenpc> E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'util-linux'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)
[22:02] <bioterror> jenpc, sudo apt-get -f install
[22:04] <kanliot> hey before i file a bug against pcmanfm for "run in terminal" anyone know how to fix it?
[22:06] <Tekaylus> @kanliot, you should just be able to type $pcmanfm
[22:07] <jenpc> bioterror, thanks, it looks like that works.  Now it's got the blue background and is prompting about whether to "Restart services during package upgrades without asking?".  But since this is my main system, I think I'll wait for the ISO to finish downloading before continuing.  (So that if something else goes wrong, I'll have that as a back-up plan.)
[22:12] <Tekaylus> have to logout to test out the path, so if i don't return that means it worked
[22:13] <kanliot> i just reported bug 1030637