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| Tm_T | I will be occupied elsewhere for next hour most likely, unfortunately | 18:00 |
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| AlanBell | ok | 18:00 |
| AlanBell | #startmeeting | 18:00 |
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| AlanBell | hi all, who is here for the IRC meeting? | 18:00 |
| funkyHat | I will be here, for a change! | 18:00 |
| * funkyHat | 18:00 | |
| AlanBell | yay, hi funkyHat | 18:00 |
| funkyHat | Hi ⢁) | 18:01 |
| AlanBell | I should have sent a reminder to the list probably | 18:01 |
| LjL | oh hello | 18:02 |
| AlanBell | but I know Pici isn't around | 18:02 |
| AlanBell | hi LjL | 18:02 |
| Pendulum | AlanBell: you were a bit busy | 18:02 |
| AlanBell | I was, doing BBQ stuff | 18:03 |
| AlanBell | and watching beach volleyball, important stuff like that | 18:03 |
| AlanBell | ok, lets start on the agenda | 18:03 |
| AlanBell | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcCouncil/MeetingAgenda | 18:04 |
| AlanBell | #topic Review last meetings action items | 18:04 |
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| AlanBell | x1k is up for membership but isn't in the channel it seems | 18:04 |
| IdleOne | hello | 18:05 |
| AlanBell | #progress m4v Pici AlanBell to look into adding ban removal to ubottu cababilities | 18:05 |
| AlanBell | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2012-July/001565.html | 18:06 |
| Tm_T | I liked what was posted on the mailinglist | 18:06 |
| AlanBell | m4v has made good progress | 18:06 |
| topyli | hi, sorry i'm late | 18:06 |
| AlanBell | "I did like everyone to test the feature with scratDev in #ubuntu-bots-test, | 18:06 |
| Tm_T | topyli: academic quarter (: | 18:06 |
| AlanBell | just go there and set some bans and quiets. Report any bugs you find and ping | 18:06 |
| AlanBell | me for questions." | 18:06 |
| AlanBell | hi topyli | 18:06 |
| topyli | yes m4v is doing great | 18:07 |
| AlanBell | that does all sound really cool | 18:08 |
| AlanBell | so I think we should get lots of people in #ubuntu-bots-test to try it out | 18:08 |
| AlanBell | and get bug reports filed and suggestions made | 18:08 |
| IdleOne | I tested yesterday with a ban and a quiet, only problems I had were user error. | 18:09 |
| IdleOne | the bot responses could be a little more informative, m4v said he was aware and going to work on them. | 18:09 |
| AlanBell | ok, well I will certainly have a play with it | 18:09 |
| LjL | i didn't test this yet, but i'm all for having ubottu handle this. a bit concerned over duplicated effort, but i guess it's things that happen | 18:10 |
| AlanBell | it is an ubottu clone isn't it? | 18:10 |
| IdleOne | it is | 18:10 |
| LjL | AlanBell: yeah but i mean, niko also had something like this (except it wasn't 100% an ubottu clone etc, yes i know) | 18:11 |
| AlanBell | yes, but there were problems with the test suite etc | 18:11 |
| AlanBell | ok, so lets promote the testing of this bot over the next few weeks | 18:12 |
| AlanBell | and also try to break it/do evil things to it | 18:12 |
| LjL | i have dinner now, can't attend any further. don't decide anything i'd approve of! | 18:13 |
| bazhang | hah | 18:13 |
| AlanBell | hehe | 18:13 |
| topyli | LjL: did we ever? :) | 18:13 |
| AlanBell | ok, so that is great progress, really pleased with that | 18:13 |
| AlanBell | #topic Open items in the IRCC tracker | 18:14 |
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| AlanBell | right, so we redirected a bunch of launchpad emails to the tracker, somewhat more than we expected to do | 18:14 |
| AlanBell | now every time someone is added or removed or expires from a team we get a ticket created | 18:14 |
| topyli | it is a bit of a problem. now we have to go close those tickets, and i've failed to do that | 18:15 |
| AlanBell | the intention was to redirect the "contact this team" link to the ticket tracker, but it had unexpected side effects | 18:15 |
| IdleOne | You guys are getting all the " This person has extended their membership emails? | 18:15 |
| AlanBell | I wasn't sure at first if this was a bug or a feature, but I am now leaning towards "bug" | 18:15 |
| funkyHat | I think it's a bug too | 18:16 |
| AlanBell | IdleOne: yeah, we get that anyway, but now the tracker hassles us to resolve the "issue" | 18:16 |
| topyli | yes it backfired a bit, it's not really much better than that stuff coming to my inbox | 18:16 |
| topyli | s/much/any/ | 18:16 |
| AlanBell | ok, so lets undo that then and put it back as it was | 18:16 |
| topyli | yes | 18:16 |
| AlanBell | #action AlanBell to revert the IRCC launchpad contact redirect to the tracker | 18:17 |
| meetingology | ACTION: AlanBell to revert the IRCC launchpad contact redirect to the tracker | 18:17 |
| topyli | someone is free to take the action of taunting me for suggesting this in the first place :) | 18:17 |
| AlanBell | :) | 18:18 |
| AlanBell | I think there are no "real" tickets | 18:18 |
| topyli | right | 18:19 |
| * AlanBell closes the open ones | 18:19 | |
| AlanBell | #topic Review Bugs related to the Ubuntu IRC Council | 18:20 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Review Bugs related to the Ubuntu IRC Council | ||
| AlanBell | #subtopic bug 892500 eir is still not fit for purpose in #ubuntu | 18:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 892500 in ubuntu-community "eir is still not fit for purpose in #ubuntu" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/892500 | 18:20 |
| AlanBell | well we discussed this one, I will add a note to it linking to that email and the testing we are doing | 18:21 |
| topyli | still in progress | 18:21 |
| AlanBell | yes | 18:21 |
| AlanBell | #subtopic bug 913541 there are a number of people with Ubuntu IRC cloaks who have expired from the ubuntumembers group - AlanBell | 18:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 913541 in ubuntu-community "there are a number of people with Ubuntu IRC cloaks who have expired from the ubuntumembers group" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/913541 | 18:21 |
| AlanBell | pici was having a go at this one, I will check the current progress on this and maybe help with it over the next few days, I want to get this to zero | 18:21 |
| AlanBell | ok, that is the bugs | 18:22 |
| AlanBell | #topic alignment of launchpad teams and channel access lists | 18:22 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: alignment of launchpad teams and channel access lists | ||
| AlanBell | I haven't done much on this for a bit, but I will pick it up again over the next week or so | 18:22 |
| AlanBell | #topic membership applications | 18:22 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: membership applications | ||
| AlanBell | we have a membership application from x1k in the agenda, however he is not in the channel | 18:23 |
| topyli | x1k is not around | 18:23 |
| topyli | deferred? | 18:23 |
| IdleOne | probably best | 18:24 |
| AlanBell | yes I think so too | 18:24 |
| AlanBell | #topic Any Other Business | 18:24 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Any Other Business | ||
| AlanBell | anyone got any other items to raise today? | 18:25 |
| topyli | i noticed that our team reports are lagging | 18:25 |
| IdleOne | BT access? DO all the ops have it? | 18:25 |
| IdleOne | Do* | 18:25 |
| AlanBell | topyli: that is a very fair point | 18:25 |
| topyli | those in probation don't, but everyone else? | 18:25 |
| AlanBell | those in probation should have access too | 18:26 |
| AlanBell | I think | 18:26 |
| topyli | AlanBell: i can bring them up to date when i'm bored enough | 18:26 |
| AlanBell | it is only a lack of actually doing it that is the problem | 18:26 |
| IdleOne | it makes it difficult to learn how to use BT without access | 18:26 |
| topyli | IdleOne: yes | 18:26 |
| AlanBell | so how do we give bantracker access, is this a tsimpson question? | 18:27 |
| IdleOne | AlanBell: m4v has the capability to add BT access also | 18:27 |
| AlanBell | ok, great | 18:27 |
| IdleOne | someone on the IRCC should have it too | 18:27 |
| IdleOne | so :) | 18:27 |
| AlanBell | yeah, that would be handy | 18:27 |
| topyli | yep, but i don't think any of us does | 18:28 |
| AlanBell | ok, that is something to sort out | 18:29 |
| topyli | it's legacy from the time when tsimpson was on the ircc, and we forgot to handle it | 18:29 |
| IdleOne | afaik tsimpson jussi and m4v have the owner capability | 18:30 |
| IdleOne | but it only makes sense that the IRCC has the power to add users. | 18:30 |
| AlanBell | ok, we will get that sorted and make sure all the ops have access | 18:30 |
| AlanBell | we had a training class last week by Myrtti http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/07/26/%23ubuntu-classroom.html | 18:31 |
| AlanBell | which was really good, but lightly attended | 18:31 |
| AlanBell | I know some people had timezone issues and wanted to read the logs which is fine | 18:31 |
| AlanBell | we have another training session on Thursday 2nd | 18:32 |
| AlanBell | at 17:00 UTC with LJL leading it | 18:32 |
| topyli | we could advertise the log, and maybe my 'helping when you're not an op' class | 18:32 |
| AlanBell | a tour of the bots and channels | 18:32 |
| AlanBell | topyli: yes, that would be great | 18:33 |
| topyli | oh, let's wait until that's done too | 18:33 |
| IdleOne | i don't think we should wait on spreading good info | 18:33 |
| AlanBell | we should try and get more people to participate in the next one, particularly the new operators | 18:33 |
| IdleOne | we can have multiple blog posts and do just as well | 18:33 |
| topyli | true, it's not like we're exactly spamming the planet currently :) | 18:34 |
| IdleOne | Myrtti's class was excellent and people should hear about it | 18:34 |
| AlanBell | IdleOne: agreed, the more the merrier | 18:34 |
| AlanBell | topyli: you have access to the blog, want to post an article about it? | 18:34 |
| topyli | AlanBell: ok | 18:34 |
| AlanBell | #action topyli to blog about the training classes/logs | 18:34 |
| meetingology | ACTION: topyli to blog about the training classes/logs | 18:34 |
| AlanBell | ok, any other things to discuss now? | 18:35 |
| topyli | AlanBell: add an action for me also to fix the team reports so i don't forget | 18:35 |
| pleia2 | we tossed one up on the classroom blog late last week too (friday I believe) | 18:35 |
| pleia2 | so hopefully that'll help too :) | 18:35 |
| AlanBell | #action topyli to sort out team reports | 18:35 |
| meetingology | ACTION: topyli to sort out team reports | 18:35 |
| AlanBell | thanks pleia2 | 18:35 |
| IdleOne | topyli: maybe add a blurb about testing the new bot features too? :) | 18:38 |
| AlanBell | good idea, so if that is everything . . . | 18:38 |
| AlanBell | #endmeeting | 18:38 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Sun Jul 29 18:38:58 2012 UTC. | 18:38 |
| meetingology | Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-07-29-18.00.moin.txt | 18:38 |
| meetingology | Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-07-29-18.00.html | 18:38 |
| AlanBell | thanks everyone | 18:39 |
| topyli | IdleOne: would a link to m4v's mail suffice (with a little blurb of course)? | 18:39 |
| IdleOne | topyli: yeah. also the access list will have to be modified a little in that channel to allow non-ubuntu members to set some bans. it is a testing channel so I don't think much damaga can be done. | 18:39 |
| IdleOne | damage* | 18:40 |
| topyli | how? you're talking to topyli here :) | 18:41 |
| IdleOne | topyli: by poking one of your fellow ircc members and making them do it :) | 18:41 |
| topyli | oh that's something i'm good at | 18:41 |
| IdleOne | topyli: m4v could probably help with that also | 18:41 |
| topyli | yeah | 18:42 |
| Unit193 | AlanBell: Wasn't there an idea to have all channels OPs have the same flag template? | 18:43 |
| AlanBell | yes, that is in progress | 18:44 |
| Unit193 | What template? | 18:44 |
| IdleOne | topyli: one thing I don't understand. 20 years on IRC and you still don't know how to set flags :P | 18:44 |
| AlanBell | +Aiotv (with exceptions) | 18:45 |
| Unit193 | +r can be quite handy though. | 18:46 |
| IdleOne | if an op is being banned from a channel, they shouldn't be able to unban themselves | 18:46 |
| topyli | IdleOne: i know how to set them, but i never learned what they mean :) | 18:46 |
| IdleOne | /msg chanserv help flags | 18:47 |
| Unit193 | IdleOne: And /cs quiet IdleOne is quite handy, less noise. | 18:47 |
| topyli | i know that too. i'm running out of excuses. stop that! :) | 18:47 |
| IdleOne | Unit193: Sorry if my opinions are noisy | 18:48 |
| Unit193 | IdleOne: No, as in chanserv quiets and there is no op/deop. :P | 18:48 |
| IdleOne | I thought we were not supposed to hide behind chanserv | 18:49 |
| Unit193 | Let me show you in -test channel. | 18:49 |
| AlanBell | probably best to show who is doing it mostly | 18:49 |
| AlanBell | but yes, #ubuntu-bots-test is the place to play | 18:49 |
| LjL | AlanBell, my session is at 13:00 UTC, not 17, i think | 18:50 |
| AlanBell | LjL: oops, sorry | 18:51 |
| AlanBell | LjL: I think I got it mixed up in my head with Myrtti's session, I will make sure it is 13:00 | 18:51 |
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