[00:20] <em> I think that Kubuntu (probably actually Ubuntu) has completely broken the ia32-lib packages
[00:24] <OerHeks> em, 12.04 is multi-arch
[00:38] <aweu> hello
[00:39] <aweu> hello
[00:59] <ludlow> hello
[00:59] <ludlow> anyone here running Netrunner?
[01:03] <kaxmx> anyone here ever built an ecrypted root FS linux install that uses TPM for authentication? can you give me some guidance on how to set it up?
[01:13] <aweu> nope
[02:27] <chronos> my systray widget at panel become HUGE, getting half of my 1920px screen
[02:27] <chronos> and new systrays on other panels do same
[02:27] <chronos> how fix it?
[02:53] <chronos> my systray widget at panel become HUGE, getting half of my 1920px screen and new systrays on other panels do same.... how fix it?
[02:53] <chronos> ops
[04:04] <rickey> well hello
[04:05] <rickey> not sure if anyone is here?
[04:38] <z1lt0id> i would just like to say that out of the derivatives Kubuntu is my favourite :)
[05:10] <Phiscribe> bada bing
[05:32] <kaxmx> hey i have a question about kubuntu install from the alternate cd
[05:32] <kaxmx> does it support installing the latest packages from the internet?
[05:38] <uglyoldbob> so im having a problem booting my uefi computer after updating the bios
[05:41] <uglyoldbob> i can still get the kubuntu installation disc to boot
[05:53] <kaxmx> uglyoldbob, is it hte kubuntu install disc or just booting off a CD in general
[05:53] <kaxmx> ?
[05:54] <uglyoldbob> i got it fixed. here's what I did: I booted from the kubuntu install disc, selected restore the system, got a shell on the system root (/dev/sda2 for me), mounted /dev/sda1 (the efi stuff), and did apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64
[05:56] <kaxmx> neat
[06:28] <Daskreech> uglyoldbob: good job
[06:36] <uglyoldbob> hmm: it also appears the uefi/bios update causes the cpu to use more power (when using the uefi menu), (cpu fan is louder than before)
[06:59] <livingdaylight> greetings Daskreech
[08:49] <lordievader> Good morning
[09:54] <ovidius> \away
[11:01] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:23] <dcorbin_work> Xorg is taking 99% of 1 CPU (making my system very sluggish).  Any idea how to figure out what it's doing?
[11:24] <jdrs_> jdrs !!
[11:25] <jdrs> great
[11:39] <kavurt> i created a custom keyboard layout. but i cannot assign a shortcut to that one, while i can assign shortcuts to standard layouts. is there a file i can edit for this?
[11:50] <jdrs> kavurt: You mean you want to assign shortcut keys for your applications?
[11:50] <kavurt> jdrs: to change keyboard layouts
[11:51] <jdrs> What layout do you want to use?
[11:51] <jdrs> kavurt: you just want to change keyboard layout? Is that it?
[11:52] <kavurt> i created a custom one. i can switch clicking on the icon on system tray.
[11:53] <jdrs> So all is good?
[11:53] <kavurt> but for exampe i have us keyboard. i assigned Meta+u for that. and it works. but for custom one doesn't
[11:55] <kavurt> jdrs: it's not a big deal. but i thought there might be a file that i can edit manually. if anybody knows.
[11:56] <jdrs> kavurt: Sorry. I don't think I can help you. Maybe wait a bit more and somebody might get you the answer.
[11:56] <kavurt> thanks
[12:30] <rickey> my shoock wave keep faling ,where do i get updates
[12:30] <jdrs> flash?
[12:30] <rickey> yes
[12:31] <jdrs> Did you install manually or from kubuntu-restriced-extras?
[12:31] <jdrs> And what browser?
[12:31] <rickey> no and firefox
[12:32] <jdrs> Did you install it?
[12:32] <jdrs> No?
[12:32] <rickey> well  that is chrome that i had to install
[12:33] <jdrs> You have to install flash for firefox too.
[12:33] <rickey> things like new,s video,s
[12:34] <rickey>  noooot not man
[12:34] <rickey> no not manu
[12:34] <rickey> ok ty
[12:34] <rickey> ill do that
[12:35] <jdrs> You'll install manually?
[12:35] <rickey> not if i dont have too
[12:35] <jdrs> Try to run apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:35] <jdrs> It's gonna install flash too
[12:35] <rickey> ok ty
[12:36] <rickey>  i have been away fron linux foe years and years thats why i am green
[12:37] <jdrs> I'm still green too. IRC and Google showed me the ropes. And am still learning.
[12:53] <livingdaylight> such a shame kubuntu is being orphaned
[12:54] <livingdaylight> shame on you canonical/shuttleworth  :D
[12:54] <livingdaylight> hola Daskreech
[12:56] <BluesKaj> livingdaylight:  it may not be such a bad thing . considering what canonical's done to ubuntu desktops
[12:57] <livingdaylight> in Ubuntu software center offers to install .deb packages. How does it work in kubuntu? right-click doesn't offer Muon to deal with it, do we do it the old-fashined way, what was it? sudo dpkg -i <packagename.deb>  ?
[12:57] <livingdaylight> BluesKaj: jajajajaa
[12:58] <livingdaylight> BluesKaj: now, I hadn't thought of it that way, lol
[12:59] <BluesKaj> muon has the same options as any package manager livingdaylight
[12:59] <livingdaylight> I'm only in kubuntu coz of Unity not functioning to my liking, do still find it kde ugly, but at least it works :)
[12:59]  * livingdaylight hides
[12:59] <jdrs> What were you using before?
[12:59] <livingdaylight> Ubuntu
[12:59] <jdrs> No, I mean the DE.
[12:59] <livingdaylight> ubuntu=unity
[13:00] <Riddell> livingdaylight: kubuntu isn't being orphaned
[13:00] <livingdaylight> jdrs: ? you mean Gnome?
[13:00] <jdrs> yes
[13:00] <jdrs> You can always install gnome-shell if you don't like unity
[13:00] <BluesKaj> you can dress up kde much more thanthe ubuntu desktops IMO , you just have to do a little work
[13:00] <livingdaylight> yes, Ubuntu as it used to be, i.e. Gnome
[13:01] <pozic> I have konsole open and then execute gnome-terminal, but gnome-terminal is not displayed above konsole then. Why not?
[13:01] <pozic> It's as if I need to give manual focus to the window to get it to be on top.
[13:01] <livingdaylight> jdrs: I gave Deepin a whirl but didn't enjoy my gnome-shell experience, windows kept popping open from the side
[13:02] <BluesKaj> pozic:  ask in #ubuntu
[13:02] <Sentynel> livingdaylight: the default GUI package installer in Kubuntu is the QApt Package Installer, which should be automatically associated with .deb files
[13:03] <livingdaylight> Sentynel: so, why when right-clicking the .deb file am I not offered options to install it?
[13:03] <BluesKaj> Sentynel:  that's a given on any 'buntu system
[13:03] <Sentynel> livingdaylight: it's under open with, or just left click it
[13:04] <Sentynel> BluesKaj: QApt is Kubuntu specific
[13:04] <livingdaylight> Sentynel: must have missed it. Anyway, sudo dpkg -i <packagename.deb> seems to have worked
[13:04] <BluesKaj> Sentynel:  and debs arent ?
[13:05] <pozic> BluesKaj: why?
[13:05] <Sentynel> BluesKaj: he was asking about installing .debs in Kubuntu...
[13:05] <BluesKaj> you're asking a gnome question , pozic
[13:05] <pozic> BluesKaj: no, I am not.
[13:05] <pozic> BluesKaj: do you know anything about KDE at all?
[13:06] <pozic> BluesKaj: because, in fact, I have already solved it and it has _everything_ to do with KDE.
[13:06] <pozic> BluesKaj: which makes your comment all the more stupid.
[13:06] <BluesKaj> pozic:  nice
[13:06] <pozic> BluesKaj: why do you respond to people when you don't know what you are talking about?
[13:06] <livingdaylight> Sentynel: my bad, I do see it now
[13:07] <BluesKaj> pozic:  then why did you ask about a gnome app , if you're so knowledgable
[13:07] <pozic> BluesKaj: I used the word gnome-terminal.
[13:08] <pozic> BluesKaj: and it has nothing to do with gnome-terminal specifically.
[13:08] <pozic> BluesKaj: it's the same for many other applications.
[13:08] <pozic> BluesKaj: and in fact it has been discussed on a mailing list already where everyone agreed it was a KDE issue.
[13:08] <pozic> BluesKaj: and as such, I suggest you drop your ego and just acknowledge that you made a rather stupid reply.
[13:09] <BluesKaj> ok let's split hairs and fill the text with rhetoric and irrelavent comments
[13:09] <pozic> BluesKaj: split hairs? You said I had to go to #ubuntu.
[13:09] <pozic> BluesKaj: imagine that I was some poor loser without a brain.
[13:09] <pozic> BluesKaj: then I now would have been in #ubuntu and people telling me there would say I have to go to #kubuntu.
[13:10] <pozic> BluesKaj: please, don't say anything if you don't know what you are talking about.
[13:10] <BluesKaj> pozic:  wow , you're easily insulted ,
[13:10] <BluesKaj> but you don't mind handing them out
[13:11] <pozic> BluesKaj: that's because I don't speak nonsense all day long.
[13:12] <BluesKaj> pozic:  no , just here
[13:12] <pozic> BluesKaj: again, YOU are the only one who has communicated utter crap.
[13:12] <pozic> BluesKaj: YOU should apologize for your CRAPPY output.
[13:13] <pozic> BluesKaj: YOU should get rid of your EGO and ACK. you are WRONG>
[13:13] <pozic> BluesKaj: this is 'official Kubuntu support'.
[13:13] <pozic> BluesKaj: whoever is behind this should kick you in the nuts.
[13:14] <pozic> BluesKaj: because you are only spreading misinformation.
[13:14] <livingdaylight> I'm an advocate of free speech, but I think you've both aired your feelings now, no? common guys, we're all on the same team; if we're not there is enough room in the World without steppin on each other's toes
[13:14] <pozic> I think free speech is only useful for those who have anything to say.
[13:14] <BluesKaj> livingdaylight:  I'm no longer responding he's been put on ignore here
[13:15] <pozic> You are not entitled to communication just because you can type.
[13:16] <jdrs> pozic: Have you found a way to not let the gnome-terminal shrink? Mine is shrinking.
[13:18] <jdrs> lol
[13:22] <BluesKaj> that's one angry bird :)
[13:23] <BluesKaj> got booted from ubuntu a while back as well iirc
[13:25] <livingdaylight> shame for one I also wondered what the remedy had been
[13:26] <Sentynel> my guess would be the focus stealing protection settings
[13:27] <jdrs> Mine was shrinking crazily. But found a workaround.
[13:32]  * BluesKaj has no use for gnome-terminal , I think  :)
[13:33] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[13:34] <BluesKaj> hi lordievader
[13:36] <BluesKaj> jdrs:  he got booted
[13:36] <jdrs> BluesKaj: what does it have to do with me?
[13:37] <lordievader> Who got booted?
[13:37] <lordievader> And why?
[13:38] <BluesKaj> nm lordievader , jdrs , I had a response in the text here that i forgot about and it got p[osted by mistake , my apologies
[13:38] <jdrs> k
[13:41] <BluesKaj> i have a couple of pcs that I'm working on here and one keeps dropping it's uuid and fstab has to be redited , so I'm a bit distracted
[13:41] <livingdaylight> I seem to have accidentally triggered a mouse gesture I was not aware of and instead of hitting the tab i was reaching for i opened u 4 workspaces compiz style. Anyone know about this. Can't seem to reproduce the guesture, though I try to recall it
[13:41] <BluesKaj> bbl
[13:43] <lordievader> livingdaylight: Perhaps it is a binding to the screen corners, try to ram your mouse in the screen corners and see if something happens.
[13:44] <livingdaylight> lordievader: yes! yes, lol... nice one, I learnt something new :)
[13:45] <lordievader> livingdaylight: You can configure these bindings too, let me check for you where that was.
[13:45] <livingdaylight> thank you lordievader
[13:46] <livingdaylight> its not the first time its happened to me, but now I know. Could be useful it opens every application window on the screen, so one can navigate to it without having to go through the werkspaces aguess.
[13:46] <lordievader> livingdaylight: System Settings -> Workspace Behaviour -> Screen Edges
[13:46] <livingdaylight> thank you
[13:47] <lordievader> livingdaylight: No problem
[14:13] <TImewarper> hey
[14:13] <TImewarper> i would like to know if updating my system while the time is 3 hours off might cause any problems? Like with timestamps etc
[14:13] <TImewarper> (notice this is the first time i installed the system when i havent adjusted the clock)
[14:15] <genii-around> TImewarper: It can cause issues, yes
[14:16] <apachelogger> hum
[14:16] <apachelogger> FWIW, connecting to the internet should auto-sync the clock I think ^^
[14:17] <genii-around> apachelogger: Not if you don't have ntpd, pretty sure
[14:18] <apachelogger> well, there used to be a time when our ifup script had ntpdate hardcoded
[14:22] <apachelogger> genii-around: /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate
[14:24] <apachelogger> on non-static updates that will slew though
[14:24] <apachelogger> i.e. speed up or slow down the clock to reach the target time rather than simply switching to the target time
[15:12] <jdrs_> jdrs !
[15:24] <livingdaylight> what is with all these connectios closed and reset
[15:34] <BluesKaj> livingdaylight:  auto join options in the irc client ...lots of ppl join , but don't participate, just lurk until they need something
[15:36] <BluesKaj> and after a certain period of inactivity some clients autodisconnect  , then there are poor connections that drop out as well
[15:39] <livingdaylight> BluesKaj: I see. Impression I got is its worse in kubuntu but maybe not
[15:39] <Frank-Man> hi Guys, AWN (Avant Window Navigator Dock) is confused after testeing 4.9 rc2. There a know problems?
[15:40] <Frank-Man> Docky and Cairo Dock are confused too after update
[18:48] <seele> what is the kubuntu users mailing list? is it kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com or just kubuntu@lists.ubuntu.com?
[18:49] <genii-around> seele: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
[18:49] <seele> thanks
[18:50] <genii-around> np
[18:59] <BluesKaj> genii-around:  have you heard of a bootup freeze after connecting hdmi to a HDTV in single output mode ? I'm at a loss on that one
[18:59] <BluesKaj> it's a laptop
[19:00] <genii-around> BluesKaj: Haven't seen that before
[19:01] <BluesKaj> genii-around:  I'm quoting " it broke when i told nvidia settings to disable my latpop screen and ONLY use my HDTV over HDMI as the only monitor.
[19:02] <genii-around> I wonder if kdm knows it's supposed to be on the hdmi
[19:02] <BluesKaj> it's Lazure over at ubuntu
[19:03] <BluesKaj> lightdm or gdm on ubuntu then , genii-around
[19:07] <genii-around> BluesKaj: lightdm
[19:07] <genii-around> Apologies on lag, work is busy
[19:12] <BluesKaj> genii-around:  are you a member at #kubuntuforums?, looks like I need an invite
[19:12] <genii-around> BluesKaj: Not that i know of
[19:12] <BluesKaj> ok :)
[19:14] <genii-around> BluesKaj: From what i can tell of http://www.kubuntuforums.net/register.php Referrer is not a mandatory field
[19:20] <BluesKaj> yes, genii-around , I'm a member on the website , appaarently their freenode chat requires an invitation
[19:28] <dougl> err - is there another live forum for kubuntu?
[19:29] <dougl> BluesKaj, genii-around ^^^?
[19:31] <dougl> now why would it be invite only - hmmm
[19:31] <BluesKaj> dougl:  I think it's an admin chat, by invite only
[19:32] <dougl> BluesKaj, Hey - how are you? Admin = sounds boring with not much for me to learn. Thanks :)
[19:33] <BluesKaj> dougl:  dunno for sure , but it's prbly a good guess , considering :)
[19:33] <dougl> ah - yes, forum admin... <snore>
[19:34] <dougl> BluesKaj, agreed - all good things will make it here eventually anyway.
[19:40] <BluesKaj> seeing a lot of problems lately with laptop hdmi outputs causing freezes on boot and at login , the nvidia settings in single output mode seems to be the culprit
[19:40] <bbeck> Has anyone installed the telepathy IM client?  I ask because I'm not certain the quick chat plasmoid is working as it should.  When an IM comes in the avatar of the user that sent it appears.  But that's all that it does.  Clicking on the avatar doesn't do anything.
[19:42] <BluesKaj> bbeck: I tried empathy  , it doesn't accept text input on my OS 12.10 ...seems to be broken
[19:43] <bbeck> BluesKaj: Oh, this isn't empathy, it's the KDE replacement for Kopete.
[19:43] <bbeck> For the most part everything works, just not that plasmoid.
[19:43] <BluesKaj> konverstaion or quassel for irc , oopd sorry ...my eyes played tricks on me again
[19:44] <BluesKaj> bbeck:  I mix them up
[19:44] <bbeck> lol, not a problem.
[19:45]  * BluesKaj is having a long senior moment , today :P
[19:53] <BluesKaj> weird I have all thes telepathy related libs and associated apps installed, but no app named telepathy, there's kde-telepathy but it doesn't launch
[19:54] <genii-around> !info telepathy-core
[19:54] <genii-around> !info telepathy-core quantal
[19:56] <BluesKaj> thanks genii-around
[20:00] <rickey> man i need my video soundi have chrome and my video is working but it has no sound
[20:01] <rickey> ooooooo by the way im in kubuntu 10.04
[20:02] <BluesKaj> rickey: does the video have sound on videos stored on your pc ?
[20:02] <rickey> just wondering would i be better off going back  to firefox?
[20:03] <rickey> i dont know
[20:03] <rickey>  new install have none
[20:04] <BluesKaj> rickey:  ok did you install kubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[20:04] <rickey> should i try to play a movie?
[20:04] <rickey> yes
[20:05] <rickey> i will admit ,i am very green
[20:05] <BluesKaj> yes try to play a youtube downloaded
[20:06] <BluesKaj> use youtube-dl , you may have to install youtube-dl
[20:36] <azevedo_> Hello, someone else sow a KDE issue when you minimized some application?
[20:47] <BluesKaj> azevedo_:  explain in more detail please
[20:52] <BarkingFish> this is annoying. A package I want to use with kde is not turning up as being available. I hope to god it's not been discontinued/withdrawn...
[20:52] <BarkingFish> !info kstars precise
[20:53] <BarkingFish> i think I may have a repo problem.
[20:53] <genii-around> BarkingFish: That would be my first guess, yes
[20:54] <azevedo_> BluesKaj: It do not happen every time, however some times I have, for example, firefox as well as terminal and Dolphin open. If I close some of them ( firefox mostly), my low-down painel shows the terminal  over the Dolphin  botton. The correct should be side by side.
[20:59] <BarkingFish> genii-around, Who deals with our mirrors? I'm using the gb.archive.ubuntu.org mirror, and all I get when I try to install kstars is an error telling me:  E: unable to locate package kstars
[21:00] <genii-around> BarkingFish: Did you do something like sudo apt-get update  to get latest list?
[21:00] <genii-around> BarkingFish: Also it occurs to me your internet could be congested from Olympics
[21:00] <BarkingFish> yep, I did.  I've been through that a coupla times, I don't get any errors or anything.
[21:01] <BarkingFish> And there is no net congestion either. I managed to download a 900mb file about 20 minutes ago
[21:02] <BarkingFish> Just obtained an entire audio copy of the New Testament in Tok Pisin :)  That's gonna be fun to listen to...
[21:02] <azevedo_> BarkingFish: kstars could be find when you used *ubuntu 11.04?
[21:02] <BarkingFish> azevedo_, yes. I had it installed on both 11.04 and 11.10
[21:03] <BarkingFish> I was going to install it because I'm tracking a star that only comes into our orbit over the UK once every 6 months, and it starts its transit somewhere in the next 3 to 4 hours.
[21:05] <azevedo_> BarkingFish: Some software have been removed from 12.04 because they use a QT old, like Qcad. If you really would like to use it, you should add the 11.04 repository on /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:05] <BarkingFish> azevedo_, according to ubottu though, it's available for 12.04
[21:05] <BarkingFish> !info kstars precise
[21:06] <BarkingFish> it should be there. the thing is, normally in a situation like this, I'd ftp into a mirror and go see whether it was missing from the mirror or not. I don't know the ftp address to get into the mirror though
[21:06] <azevedo_> BarkingFish:  I am able to install it =/
[21:07] <azevedo_> BarkingFish: using precise
[21:07] <BarkingFish> azevedo_, do you use a specific mirror for your country, or a general one?
[21:07] <azevedo_> BarkingFish: Yes, brazil.
[21:07] <BarkingFish> ok - i'm using the UK specific mirror, and I can't get it from here.
[21:09] <BluesKaj> BarkingFish:  http://pkgs.org/ubuntu-12.04/ubuntu-updates-main-amd64/kstars_4.8.4-0ubuntu0.1_amd64.deb.html
[21:09] <genii-around> BarkingFish: Maybe revery to the main one without contry-code prefix
[21:09] <genii-around> *revert
[21:10] <BarkingFish> genii-around, yeah. I suppose I could, but it still seems wrong that it's not loading from the uk mirror.
[21:11] <BarkingFish> I am on the page now, but there's no directory listing so I can't find the path to see the contents
[21:12] <BarkingFish> aha! I'm in.
[21:12] <genii-around> Usually it's in wherever.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/<archive-name-like-main>/<letter>/<debfile-starting-with-that-letter>
[21:13] <BarkingFish> yeah. It's a mystery now. Because kstars IS in the gb mirror.
[21:14] <BarkingFish> http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kstars/
[21:14] <BarkingFish> i think i'm gonna check all my sources over. i have no idea why my system is missing this
[21:19] <BarkingFish> YAY!
[21:20] <genii-around> BarkingFish: What was it, in the end?
[21:20] <BarkingFish> I ran the sudo apt-get update again and it said that some of the source files it was checking were missing, i cleared all my software sources out and reinstalled the lot.
[21:21] <BarkingFish> i think I musta broken something, somewhere
[21:21] <BarkingFish> but it's definitely installing now.
[21:24] <genii-around> Interesting
[21:32] <BarkingFish> Yep, it's definitely working.  And I'm late :)  The star I'm tracking entered into my part of the world about 90 minutes ago...  Never mind, I have it in my sights now :)
[21:46] <sean___> hello
[22:33] <copacetic> There is a way to get the fastest mirror in muon, is there a way to do this from the command line?
[22:43] <genii-around> copacetic: http://askubuntu.com/questions/39922/how-do-you-select-the-fastest-mirror-from-the-command-line/9035#9035
[23:09] <earthling_> I'm trying to use ktimer.  I type totem file path, it doesn't work
[23:10] <earthling_> for the command line option
[23:10] <dougl> how did you install it?
[23:11] <earthling_> ubuntu software center
[23:11] <earthling_> I'm using ubuntu 10.04
[23:12] <dougl> just do ktimer at any prompt... that does not work?
[23:12] <earthling_> at the terminal?
[23:12] <dougl> yes
[23:13] <earthling_> ktimer loads up. I'm trying to set up a command to start at 0 countdown
[23:13] <dougl> ok - good luck
[23:14] <earthling_> thx
[23:14] <earthling_> maybe I need certain kde libraries
[23:17] <dougl> I mis-understood your challenge... I know nothing about what you are trying to do but would lend an ear if you need a sounding board - lol
[23:18] <earthling_> heh ok
[23:25] <cancer_> Hi :), what's the command to get ip of computer from my network.
[23:25] <cancer_> like in winxp 'ping computername'....