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ali1234http://www.ustream.tv/channel/madsci900100:01
Azelphurgah, I need a new text editor02:32
Azelphurgedit is just too buggy to use, it's really frustrating me02:32
soreauAzelphur: geany is pretty damn good03:25
Azelphursoreau: haha I just bumped into it, and I'm liking it03:25
soreauAzelphur: It's really more of an IDE but works fine as a common text editor03:26
Azelphuryea03:26
ali1234gedit is winnnn03:26
soreaunnnndoze03:27
Azelphurali1234: would be if it wasn't bugged out03:27
ali1234also the hamsternauts are doing something03:27
Azelphurmy text cursor keeps disappearing so I can't see what I'm doing03:27
soreausorry, couldn't help it;)03:27
Azelphurhaha03:28
ali1234 20   0 3300m 2.3g  62m S  100 14.8 172:57.15 firefox04:47
ali1234i have a single tab open on "about:blank"04:47
ali1234this is ridiculous04:47
MartijnVdS"We've fixed the memory leak bugs" - Firefox team05:03
ali1234note that it's also using 100% cpu for some reason05:09
MartijnVdSali1234: I read somewhere that js which takes a reference to the DOM can't be killed off because the memory is still referenced05:09
MartijnVdSso it could still be running (and if it's buggy, getting nothing from the now-stale DOM)05:09
ali1234sounds about right, i've been developing some javascript code05:09
christelgood morning pretties05:57
popeyMorning all!06:19
christelmorning popey :)06:39
popeychristel, those disks are wiped now06:40
christel\o/06:45
christelwell done!06:45
popeywheee06:45
popeymcd wifi works outside mcd :)06:46
christelare you just sat in your car outside mcdonalds Going On The Internet and looking shifty? :P06:46
christeloh you're off to IoM today aren't you?06:47
popeyya06:58
popeywell, i was inside mcd but they got busy and people started hovering around the table i was on06:59
popeytutting06:59
christelhehe06:59
popeynow there is a queue out the door06:59
christelsee, you should have asked them to join you in a discussion about Jesus06:59
christelit usually works.. apart from the few times it backfires and people are really keen on talking about jesus06:59
popeyhahah07:00
popeys/jesus/satan/07:00
christel:D07:00
popeys/satan/ubuntu/ :)07:00
christel\o/07:00
christelcultbuntu! \o/07:00
popey\o/07:00
* popey wanders off to look for a plane shaped thing07:07
christelit is in alan's fridge..07:07
christelTheOpenSourcerer \o/07:07
TheOpenSourcererhi christel.07:08
christelhow are you this fineeee morning lovely one? :D07:09
TheOpenSourcerercrap frankly07:13
christeloh no! howcome?07:19
TheOpenSourcererdunno really. Woke up at 2:15am, finally got some sleep around 5:30 - 7:30 but only little bits. Just feel rubbish.07:19
christelauch -- yes, that would probably not make me feel Too Great either! i like my sleep07:21
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j0nrGood morning.07:28
j0nrI have a mail server question.07:28
j0nrI havemine set up so that various different <names>@mydomain.com all come into the one <server user> account, via aliases in /etc/aliases (iirc)07:29
j0nrI also have virtual domains set up so that I can also receive <names>@myseconddomain.com into the same account07:29
j0nrI then just redirect different things into different mailboxes (Maildir) using procmail07:30
j0nrBut, if I then add this account to say my phone (an IMAP) I get all accounts in thr one account obviously07:31
j0nrI was wondering if I could set up the seconddomain so I could some how set up a second accout on my phone just for that07:31
j0nrI guess the easiest way would be to create a second user on my server for that domain...but is it possible without having to do that (plus associated hassle of backing up a second account)07:32
kvarleyThis is an unrelated question to Ubuntu but I know somebody will know. When somebody spoofs their user agent, does their browser still complete conditional html statements for their browser? E.g. if IE6 was pretending to be Firefox would it still render the IF IE 6 conditional statement or would it not?07:59
directhexkvarley, yes.08:00
directhexkvarley, the change only relates to the User-Agent HTTP header. nothing more.08:01
kvarleySo why would detecting browsers features via Javascript take precedence over this method?08:01
kvarleyI have seen people suggesting to feature detect rather than using conditional statements which is weird if they work fine08:02
kvarleyThanks directhex08:02
directhexfeature detection means you can better handle unknown cases08:02
directhexif a chinese visitor comes on using MaoistWeb 4.7, do you use your IE6, IE7, Opera, or Netscape 4.7 code?08:03
kvarleyI'd use my modern browser code unless they have JS turned off in which case they'd use my mobile friendly site08:03
kvarleydirecthex: I see you point though, that's why it would be better =]08:03
directhexi'd just sniff. "if IE6 then redirect to 'you are blocked' page, otherwise work normally"08:05
czajkowskiAloha08:06
kvarleydirecthex: It'll be more, detect IE6 and load in all the CSS hacks heh but that's the plan =]08:06
kvarleyThanks directhex08:06
directhexi wonder how much global warming could be blamed on all the extra fossil fuels burned to power enough computers to allow sites to be developed & tested in IE608:07
DJonesJust looking at this http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/07/29/tweets_texts_blamed_for_olympic_bike_race_bungles/ Is it this likely, or just a made up excuse to cover equipment failure?08:08
AlanBellmade up excuse08:09
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)08:10
christelmorning bigcalm \o/08:10
DJonesMy thought as well, its not as if GPS systems and text messages to local mobile masts will be on the same frequency08:10
* bigcalm tickles christel hello08:10
christelrawr08:11
christeli am trying to work out what to do today -- the boy wonder is On Holiday, which means he has to be entertained!08:11
christelignoring the fact that he is still fast asleep08:11
czajkowskichristel: by chicken and let him watch it all day08:13
czajkowskiseems to work well08:13
czajkowskior a tramploine08:13
DJonesTake him shopping, after a day wandering round shops, he'll never take a day off ever again08:13
christelno more chickens. i dreamt of chickens.08:13
christel(i didn't really)08:13
christelDJones: haha he LOVES shopping!08:14
DJones....... WHAT.... A bloke that loves shopping08:14
christelhe is 208:14
christel:s08:14
christeli am sure it will pass08:14
DJonesAt that age, he's obviously not been dragged into enough shoe/handbag shops08:15
christeli am pondering bird world...08:15
christelsince well, he loves chickens.. he should love other birds too right?08:16
DJonesKFC?08:16
christela day out at kfc! sounds like a PLN08:16
AlanBellbirdworld is good and they have chickens08:16
christelAlanBell: damn :(08:16
MartijnVdSchristel: "chasing birds"?08:16
christelchickens EVERYWHERE08:16
christelMartijnVdS: mmm they start early in the uk!08:17
christeli must admit i've never ventured to birdworld, i do have an annual pass08:19
christel(because i am backwards)08:19
directhexsmall birds are Bad(tm) for small children08:25
directhexlike super bad08:25
christeloooh?08:27
directhexPsittacosis. it's enough of an issue that health visitors check you don't have any small birds when visiting, due to the risk to the child's health08:27
christeli avoided health visitors when david was littler, they scared me!08:29
christel(alternatively, we just heavily disagreed so i decided they were the scum of the earth)08:33
czajkowskilol08:34
directhexwell ours declared our baby was fat. which was unhelpful.08:34
czajkowski:o08:35
oimonNHS are well funny with regards formula milk08:35
oimonalmost a direct quote: "formula feeding will kill your baby, and give it breast cancer diabetes and heart attack"08:36
directhexthey live in fear of the breast feeding mafioso, e.g. "Baby Milk Action"08:36
directhexbasically there's some old WHO directive from the 80s banning non-negative portrayal of formula, and the NHS will get sued by busybodies if they don't comply08:37
directhexand mothers who physically can't breastfeed? they're clearly terrible people and should not be pandered to.08:37
oimoneven if the mother is at risk, they still don't recommend formula08:38
directhexfunnily enough the pediatricians ordered us to give ours formula. i suspect being premature made a difference to attitude08:38
christeloimon: they cant really because of WHO guidelines08:39
brobostigongood morning everyone.08:40
directhexit also means they can't answer the question "which brand of baby milk is nutritionally best for my child?"08:40
christelon the flipside our HV recommended formula (which was the time i threw her out of the house, being a bit of a breastfeeding nazi and all)08:40
christeldirecthex: yeah, that is a bit of an arse -- when medically indicated they should be able to provide some sort of advice as not everyone has access to donor milk (in our area, surrey/hants the only milk bank is in southampton)08:40
christelto which i must have donated litres during my time of being well, a cow :)08:41
directhexi think we managed 3 weeks of mixed feeding08:41
oimonmy mum fed around half the ward when she had kids08:41
christeloimon: hehe08:41
oimonthey did that in those days08:42
directhexbut there wasn't enough supply to even supply half what the midget required. so pretty much a losing battle08:42
christelbeing foreign i come from such a different culture so during one of the antenatal visits with the midwife, when asked how i intended to feed the baby i stared at her blankly trying to work out how many ways in which you could a baby whilst breastfeeding and wondering why it mattered08:42
directhextried everything including off-label meds to try & up supply. no dice. still busybodies make it their job to punish you for bottle feeding08:42
directhexit's all nestle's fault iirc08:43
directhexadvertising to african mothers in the 70s that their babies would die unless fed nestle brand formula instead of breast milk is why the WHO brought in those guidelines08:44
christeli can imagine that having been hard and you must have felt very disappointed/disheartened -- i can't count the number of friends i have who ended up having to give up on breastfeeding, be it due to low supply or lack of support from healthcare professionals (who generally appear to be lacking when it comes to education on it -- which seems daft considering the WHO guidelines etc)08:44
directhexwhich mean various things like "offering discounts of any kind on formula is banned", up to and including tesco's "£5 off when you spend £40" coupons exckude fags, petrol... and formula08:44
christeldavid's little red book has really daft comments and smiley faces in it as our GP was so impressed that i still breastfed when he reached two and kept calling him a lucky little boy, something which apparently meant treating me like a child by putting smiley faces in his book!08:45
directhexchristel, definitely not a lack of support. just supply. probably genetic, too. sister in law just had a baby, also can't get him to feed08:46
christel*nod*08:47
directhexhospitals stock three brands of formula (out of the four major ones) on the basis that they can give you whatever you intend to use at home. but if you haven't counted on formula feeding, which one do you use?08:47
directhexhint: a D4 is a useful thing to own08:48
christelhehe08:48
directhexwe ended up picking SMA. at random.08:49
AlanBelldon't recall them stocking it, I had to go to boots and buy a couple of everything08:49
christelmy other half used to kindly offer to go buy some formula whenever we went through a major growth spurt and i was sat there bawling my eyes out having done nothing but feed for N hours08:49
directhexAlanBell, well, things may have changed. small 100ml glass bottles plus a million pre-sterilized disposable teats08:50
=== Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte
AlanBellthis was 12 years ago, probably has got more sensible now08:51
directhexthese kinds of things also vary geographically08:52
bigcalmI wonder if there will ever come a day where one never need reboot a machine for a new kernel08:56
AlanBellksplice was the technology but Oracle bought it to kill it08:56
AlanBellsomeone else could do it, but Oracle will probably stamp on it if the code is written in the wrong jurisdiction08:57
bigcalmThat was nice of them08:57
AlanBellhttp://www.ksplice.com/08:57
AlanBelloh, actually they have done something for precise08:58
oimonoracle use it08:58
oimonbut you have to pay premium08:58
AlanBellhttp://www.ksplice.com/uptrack/download-ubuntu08:58
AlanBelloimon: they only use it to annoy redhat really08:58
JamesTaitGood morning all! :)09:01
christelmooorning JamesTait \o/09:03
JamesTaitchristel: o/ How are you my lovely?09:03
christeli am exceptionally well! thyself? :D09:04
christeli am waiting for the toddler of doom to wake up!09:05
JamesTaitI'm well, though the weekend didn't seem quite long enough. :)09:05
christelaww, they rarely are!09:05
JamesTaitHow was the BBQ?09:07
christelit was AMAZING09:07
christel\o/09:07
* bigcalm wanted a sausage09:08
bigcalmJust a bit far for 109:08
christelbigcalm: there was plenty of hot, juicy meat!09:08
christel<309:08
bigcalmHumm, sounds as though it wasn't cooked enough09:09
* JamesTait was at a wedding.09:09
christeland you didn't bring me?! tsk!09:10
JamesTaitSorry, I already ahd a car full. ;)09:11
christelwe're are like SO over ;)09:13
directhexnew pram \o/09:16
* JamesTait sulks09:16
christelawww, ok, i am fickle.. i didn't mean that! :P09:16
christeldirecthex: \o/09:16
bigcalmdirecthex: replaced the screw?09:16
directhexwe had a freebie 2nd hand one. which a) sucked and b) wasn't travel-system-compatible with our car seat, which means more stress for transporting the midget09:18
christelwhat did you go for now? :)09:18
JamesTaitHeh, "the midget". :)09:18
directhexa Which? magazine best buy! :D09:19
oimon"which" still exists?09:20
JamesTaitOh yes.  Did you not see the "big switch" campaign earlier this year?09:21
oimon:|09:21
oimoni don't generally notice things09:21
JamesTait:)09:21
oimonor go in shops, see adverts09:21
oimonthe good news is I replaced the lcd scren in my wife's HTC desire09:22
oimonandroid brain surgery09:22
JamesTaitI try to avoid shops as much as possible.  Which makes having a subscription to a consumer-orientated magazine seem kind of redundant, which is why I'm umming and aahing about cancelling it.09:22
christel\o/09:22
christelhaha09:22
oimoni try not to buy things either09:22
oimonbut my wife thinks otherwise09:22
JamesTaitNo comment. ;)09:24
christeli sometimes try not to buy things.. i am not very good at not buying things09:24
christelthe postman asked me the other day when i was intending to stop ordering so much stuff :(09:24
oimonbefore i was married, i managed to amass a massive load of money just by not spending it on unecessary things09:24
oimonchristel, really?!09:25
christelyes :S09:26
oimonlol09:26
christelit was a tad embarassing!09:26
JamesTaitoimon: Well, my kids know not to come and ask me for stuff.  It's not that I never buy them anything, but I ask them to justify the spend. ;)09:27
JamesTaitSo they go and ask Mom first, win her over, then get her to come and ask me. :)09:28
bigcalmJamesTait: sounds like me as a child :S09:28
JamesTaitbigcalm: Oh yeah, I have no doubt I used to do the same.09:29
AlanBellJamesTait: my kids ask me first, I say yes, they go check with mum, she says no, I keep telling them that getting a second opinion when you already have the answer you want is illogical09:30
christelhahahaha09:30
JamesTaitAlanBell: I like it. :)09:30
christel<309:30
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bigcalmHaha09:32
bigcalmAhoy popey. How's the tax haven today?09:36
popeyWarm09:38
popeysunny09:38
directhexcovered in bees09:38
bigcalmBees are cool09:40
* bigcalm reminds me to check weebl's stuff09:41
gordBeeds?09:46
directhexhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XcT49ms4yg09:47
gordbees? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4MqTCIDKhU09:50
* bigcalm giggles09:52
MartijnVdShttp://img37.imageshack.us/img37/7044/oprahbees.gif ?09:53
bigcalmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc0h1V7NwHo09:53
oimonroads and tube around olympic park are quiet today09:59
dwatkinsI assume directhex was quoting Invader Zim...10:02
dwatkins...or possibly Eddie Izzard10:04
bigcalmI remember it from Eddie Izzard10:04
dwatkinshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs-tl6GBOBo to save anyone else looking it up10:05
=== svlr is now known as slvr
davmor2Morning all10:07
bigcalmHi davmor210:07
davmor2czajkowski: Prod! Morning10:08
czajkowskidavmor2: ello10:08
davmor2bigcalm: 200 miles just over 1/4 of a tank of diesel used can't be bad :)10:08
davmor2hmmmmmm /me doesn't like where his inbox is going10:09
bigcalmdavmor2: if only the fuel gauge was linear ;)10:09
davmor2bigcalm: well we are guestimating at 5-700 miles a tank depending on how much of it is moving motorway :)10:10
bigcalmdavmor2: unless you spend your whole time in 20/30/40mph zones, you will get 570+ without trying10:11
davmor2bigcalm: indeed :)10:12
davmor2very nice car though :)10:12
bigcalmGlad you're liking it10:16
davmor2bigcalm: I could figure out why the cruise control didn't work then I took my foot completely off the clutch and it did, it's like voodoo :D10:20
bigcalmYou rest your foot on the clutch?10:21
bigcalmHayley doesn't like me using the cruise control. So I make do with the speed limiter10:21
bigcalmI'm curious what your car thinks going at 60/70mph really is10:21
czajkowskibigcalm: why buy a car with it then!10:22
bigcalmdavmor2: Use a satnav or speed app on your phone and let me know ;)10:22
directhexi get 400-500 miles per tank, but my tank isn't too big10:22
directhextoo much space taken by batteries10:22
bigcalmczajkowski: why buy a car with a glovebox? It isn't required, but it's handy if you need it10:23
davmor2directhex: this is a puegeot 407 estate bit bigger I'm guessing :)10:23
bigcalmczajkowski: I didn't buy the car on features alone10:23
mattt200 miles w/ a 1/4 tank?10:23
mattti need me one of those10:23
directhexyeah, here we go, 45 litre tank. that's about the same as my last car (a honda jazz)10:24
davmor2directhex: the batteries are the killer for you if it is dual petrol/eletric10:25
directhexdiesel 407 saloon is 66 litre tank.10:26
directhexall 407's in fact, since fuel tank is largely defined by the base chassis10:27
bigcalmIt's raining \o/10:28
mattt\o/ ?10:28
bigcalmI like rain10:28
* mattt dislikes bigcalm10:28
matttkidding10:28
bigcalmHah10:28
directhexit's raining men?10:28
matttrain is fine, but enough already for a few weeks :)10:28
* bigcalm tum-te-tums10:54
bigcalmEver so slightly bored of Mondays10:54
njaHello11:00
njaFriends forcing me into karaokeparty...11:03
njahttp://www.karaokeparty.com/en/battle/5165547/11:03
davmor2nja: that doesn't mean you have to inflict it on us honest11:04
nja@davmor2 Just showing you the results11:05
czajkowskihello twitter Ng11:21
czajkowskiahh he went11:21
czajkowskiI wanted to @him again11:21
davmor2czajkowski: please this is a family channel :P11:26
czajkowskidavmor2: ahh yes @it @is @indeed11:27
davmor2czajkowski: if you put @ in front of one more word I may have to travel to London and tickle you :P11:31
AlanBelloh I see, can't come down for a BBQ, but a tickle is worth the visit!11:31
davmor2AlanBell: I can book it and spend the day working at bluefin the tickle would just be to annoy czajkowski it's the cherry on top :)11:32
czajkowskidavmor2: when you coming down11:33
davmor2czajkowski: not for a bit unfortunately which is a shame I really want to see the new office :)11:34
AlanBellhttps://uds.ubuntu.com/ Copenhagen11:34
czajkowskiand for  4 days11:35
AlanBelland no sponsorship for community members for UDS?11:36
czajkowskieh?11:36
AlanBellI am not going to this one anyway, I just don't see the link to the form11:37
czajkowskiI didnt think it was open11:37
czajkowskihttp://uds.ubuntu.com/register/11:37
AlanBellyeah, it mentions sponsorship there (and also includes "Submitted your expenses at the end of the event by Friday 8th June 2012")11:38
AlanBellbut register and sponsorship were two different things (might be combined now)11:38
AlanBellhttp://uds.ubuntu.com/sponsorship/ was the link last time I believe11:39
christelCOPENHAGEN is woooooonderful11:39
czajkowskiAlanBell: I suspect people havebeen asking over and over location and date the site is just up11:39
christeli am also ever so slightly suicidal having spent an hour and a half in the play park surrounded by mums attempting to talk to me :(11:39
czajkowskimaybe am wrong11:40
christel(i am really not cut out for this parenting lark)11:40
AlanBellczajkowski: yeah, might well just be stuff not updated yet, and it is fine if there isn't sponsorship available, it was always an amazingly generous thing to offer11:41
christelindeed11:42
sebsebsebhi12:01
n1md4Hi.  Looking at getting a budget GeForce 880GT for HTPC and some gaming.  I'd like to have VDPAU support, and thought it would have https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDPAU and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_PureVideo.  But, I've then fished around for a review and found this (rather old 2007) Phoronix article http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ecs_geforce_8800gt&num=3 and I quote "Another note about the NVIDIA support under Linux is th12:23
n1md4... empirical evidence would be best ... Azelphur ? ;)12:24
directhex8800?12:26
directhex880 doesn't exist12:27
gordfwiw a GeForce 880GT doesn't exist ;) i think you mean an 8800GT, which is hugely underpowered for gaming12:27
directhexit's a decent workhorse, for a 4 year old pc12:27
directhexwife's old pc had one. it was fine for the games of yesteryear12:27
gordyes, it was good for the games that came out all those years ago when the gpu came out, the same is true of any gpu12:28
n1md4I did mean 8800GT, you're right.12:28
gordyou could claim a rage 128pro is fine by those standards12:28
directhexno, i couldn't. the entire rage series was diabolical12:28
n1md4My criteria is silent, good enough to play supcom and team fortress, and have vdpau support.  Any suggestions?12:29
directhexmostly due to the hideous driver legacy of ati rage12:29
gordget a 9600 at least12:30
gordor honestly just get a cheep geforce 26012:30
directhexpassive cooling isn't needed on a gpu these days. the fan is silent in 2d mode12:30
directhexand in 3d mode, you can't hear the fan over the HAIL OF BULLETS12:30
n1md4gah!  I'd feared that.  There were 2, one on amazon the other ebay, I had a 24 hours to wait for payday, and they'd both gone when the time came!12:31
directhexi might have a 260 in a box12:31
directhexmight have binned it12:31
directhexwho knows12:31
n1md4I've a 2900 and 4870, both are really loud and hot.12:31
directhexnope, i had a clearout12:32
directhexspare audigy2!12:32
n1md4What card would you recommend then, that meets those requirements?12:34
n1md4I've not a fortune to spend either.12:34
n1md4"or honestly just get a cheep geforce 260"  ... oh, I see.  Thanks.12:35
n1md4On a separate note, I've a 6600M that idles at around 70~  ... that's not right, surely?12:38
ironmHello. I am not sure if it is a bug in ubuntu-server or just wrong settings on my fresh ubuntu-server 12.04 box. I use encryption for the boot drive and also an additional encrypted volume due to the entries in /etc/crypttab and /etc/fstab (see. http://paste.debian.net/181178/ ). When I open the luks volume manually with "tcryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdb secret" he passphrase input is "hidden".12:50
ironmDuring the boot the passphrase input for the additional volume is "echoed" to the display what I don't want. is it a know bug or do I need to modify the setting? Thank you in advance for any hints.12:50
ironms/ he / the /12:51
moviebunGood afternoon all. Having an issue with Ubuntu 12.04 desktop running from a usb. Anyone help please? The initial installation goes fine and I can reboot into Ubuntu from the usb.12:52
moviebunI run some updates and install a few programs to the usb. Next time I reboot into the usb, it asks for a username and password. No username or password was created during the installation to usb though. What's happening?12:52
moviebunHave tried [blank], [blank] - 'ubuntu' and [blank] and various other permutations - all no good.12:52
ironmmoviebun, do you boot from the usb stick in live mode? .. or already from the HDD ?12:53
moviebunI've set the bios to boot from usb having installed the iso using the Pendrive linux installer.12:54
ironmso you use your usb stick as disk drive with installed OS12:55
moviebunYes - I'm attempting to use the usb as a portable version of my computer's hard drive Ubuntu installation - same programs etc.12:56
moviebunI can install all the programs to the usb fine - it's just the login username and password when the OS boots from the usb that I can't solve.12:57
moviebunIn a normal hd installation of Ubuntu you can specify to login automatically. There was no such option presented during the creation of the usb unfortunately. I wasn't asked to specify a username and password either.12:59
ironmmoviebun, I would make fresh install to the usb pendrive and check the user name (and set new password) after the first boot12:59
moviebunHow do I do that please?13:00
ironmman adduser13:00
moviebunAhh - I see. I need to intervene with sorting the username and password out straight after the first boot (while it's still accessible) and before I get to running updates and adding new programs?13:02
directhexnew pram! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW3ObT8WdBQ13:02
bigcalmdirecthex: do you get a pop-up baby as well?13:04
bigcalmdirecthex: you need to tell your wife about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt9zSfinwFA13:04
moviebunThanks for the help ironm - much appreciated. Will give it a try back home later today.13:05
directhexbigcalm, was the only way to get the pram and me in shot without standing on the desk, in fairness13:08
moviebun\leave13:08
* bigcalm grumbles a little13:08
bigcalmmoviebun: no!13:09
moviebunsorry - I'll sit in the corner for a while... :-)13:09
bigcalmHeh13:09
pierre1234gkzuegfbyczef13:10
pierre1234g13:10
directhexindeed, pierre, indeed!13:12
czajkowskibigcalm: only a little, surely not, this is you :p13:18
bigcalmYay13:18
bigcalmI am now known as an overly grumbly man :D13:18
* bigcalm is a grumpy old fart13:18
davmor2bigcalm: that just means you're get old :P13:19
bigcalmIt's been a while, but I'm considering putting on some trousers13:31
directhexi am wearing clothes, despite working from home!13:32
christelhaha directhex how many times did you practise that move before filming?:P13:33
directhexchristel, like, twice? the only part i've had to practice is the dismantling13:33
christelhehe13:34
AlanBellhttp://londonist.com/2012/07/the-olympic-park-made-from-lego.php look what my mate Warren made14:24
davmor2AlanBell: wow that's impressive details I mean I see empty seat in their stadium too ;)14:35
bigcalmHeh14:36
popeylol14:36
* daubers doesn't understand why the empty seats thing is such a big issue14:39
daubersbut then I don't really "do" sport. So maybe I'm not the papers target audience :)14:39
directhexdaubers, because many people were unable to buy tickets14:40
directhexand they were priced on the basis of scarcity14:40
daubersah, ok14:40
directhexso empty seats are a slap to those who paid through the nose or couldn't get tickets at all14:40
directhexas it turns out they're basically all free seats given to various rich people & companies e.g. football association, and those people don't care enough to use their freebies14:40
daubersI thought some of them came as part of the contract to deliver the olympics?14:41
directhexyep.14:41
directhexsame heading though. "hey sponsors, have 1000 tickets!" "er, thanks. so who's going to the pub?"14:42
daubersOhhhh, I know the answer to that one.... is it me?14:42
popeygiving them to the army and people who volunteered to help is a token gesture to placate people14:42
directhexpopey, they should have been receiving free tickets anyway. far moreso than samsung and addidas14:43
livingdaylightI was at the Olympics yesterday when it poured monsoon rain. There was absolutely no where to find shelter and take cover, except for a few toilets that were packed out15:34
livingdaylightIt's incredible that within the multi-billion pound budget to create this Olympic event not 1penny was spent on providing cover for people in the likely eventuality that it would rain.15:35
dogmatic69livingdaylight: 5 quid brolly?15:40
livingdaylightdogmatic69: Nothing wrong with brollies, but not everyone remembers to bring one; its not the point though is it?15:42
dogmatic69livingdaylight: I doubt building shelter for hundreds of thousands of forgetful people is feasible really.15:43
livingdaylightwe disagree then. For me it reflects someting about how a place is organized and caters for a user's experience15:45
livingdaylightif the other extreme is true and it is burning hot it's also (still ) nice to have cover, like marquees at weddings , or canvas (sail) roofs. even the few picnic tables didn't have one umbrella. Charging £2.50 for a 99p flake is okay though. lol15:46
zleapcover is good if looking at computer screens too,  less glare15:50
dwatkinsI wish we had ice cream in the office, it's 29.3 degrees15:52
njaHi16:10
dwatkinslo16:16
Brunellhi there just installed xchat, how do I add servers and join channels? Seems pretty different from IRC17:25
christelnot like that :s17:26
ali1234free delivery on orders over £12 from rapid...17:38
christelbuy all the things17:51
zleaphi18:05
SuperEngineerhi folks, anybody remember that bug number for weather-indicator not updating, think I ought to make mine a duplicate of it but can't find the one mentioned here yesterday :(18:26
dogmatic69SuperEngineer: check the logs maybe?18:29
SuperEngineerdogmatic69: brilliant idea - guess my brain is abit more tired than yours - [jealous]18:30
dogmatic69bug 103008718:30
lubotu3Launchpad bug 964365 in indicator-weather (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1030087 Weather indicator as earthtools.org is down" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96436518:30
dogmatic69\o/18:30
SuperEngineer:)18:31
dogmatic69SuperEngineer: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ for next time ;)18:31
SuperEngineer;)18:31
davmor2bigcalm: I found one complaint with my 407 after a weekend driving it,  if you are in the wrong gear you suffer :)  It has plenty of pull.  but if you are doing 30 in forth and can accelerate to 40 forget it, drop the third and put your foot down and it flies :) forth doesn't get real power till 38 :)18:38
SuperEngineerdogmatic69: just for info... logged back into launchpad & found mine aleady marked as duplicate - as is 1030087 - all against much earlier [earlier] #964365... impressed18:40
dogmatic69:)18:41
dogmatic69maybe someone done it for you18:41
SuperEngineer;)18:42
jacobwi've heard people rave about 407s before18:48
MartijnVdSProxy Authentication Required?19:38
* bigcalm slithers in19:45
MartijnVdSSlitherin?19:45
brobostigon"bad wolf"19:46
MartijnVdSbrobostigon: Wrong universe ;)19:46
MartijnVdS(Whoniverse?)19:46
brobostigonMartijnVdS: ohwell :)19:46
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christel1320:18
christeler20:18
bigcalmUnlucky for you :S20:19
zleaplol20:19
zleapnothing wrong with 1320:19
christelquite :p20:19
MartijnVdShttp://i.imgur.com/4tvla.jpg20:26
bigcalmHeh20:26
dwatkinsI was expecting her: http://images.wikia.com/house/images/d/d7/House_Thirteen.jpg (SFW)20:32
MartijnVdSWho?20:33
dwatkinsThe character is called "Thirteen"20:33
MartijnVdSStrange name20:34
dwatkinsIt's her number on her first day.20:34
zleapMartijnVdS, is that from macbeth20:34
MartijnVdSzleap: Hamlet I think (Alas poor Yorick etc.)20:34
zleapah20:35
zleapoops20:35
jacobwevening20:42
jacobwdwatkins: she's pretty :)20:42
* jacobw is a house fan20:42
dwatkinsjacobw: :)20:43
AzelphurAnyone know if there's a way to search ebay auctions that have closed?20:45
MartijnVdSgoogle?20:45
jacobwAzelphur: are you seeking pain?20:46
Azelphurjacobw: It'd be handy for price checking things20:46
jacobw:)20:49
jacobwgabrielle anwar \o/20:52
AlanBellAzelphur: sure you can, it is one of the checkboxes in the search, completed listings or something20:59
Azelphurso there is20:59
Azelphuryet, it still doesn't find any of my monitors20:59
Azelphurnobody sells my monitors, ever, they are just that good?20:59
n1md4evening all21:15
AzelphurAnyone clever have any idea how I'd do this, on Linux? http://files.tested.com/photos/2012/03/16/55-21013-idisplay_galaxytab.jpg21:15
AzelphurI've been trying to figure it out for a while and not got very far :(21:16
n1md4http://www.talkandroid.com/31426-turn-your-android-device-into-a-second-monitor-with-idisplay/21:17
n1md4You mean under Linux?21:17
Azelphuryep21:17
Azelphurthat is iDisplay, I know, but iDisplay is Windows/OSX only21:17
n1md4I've never tired it, and that link looks to be windows .... right21:17
n1md4hmmmm21:17
zleapwhat about vnc21:17
zleapbut x should be able to display on remote hardware anyway21:18
Azelphurzleap: that's the approach I tried to take, I found out x11vnc can clip to a specific area of the screen, but unfortunately I couldn't figure out how to trick the system into thinking there is a second screen21:18
zleapok21:18
zleapnot sure21:18
Azelphuryea, the tricking it into a second screen thing is the really hard bit :(21:19
n1md4interested myself, if i stumble across anything I'll let you know21:19
zleapi thought it was a case of setting it up so you tell it the IP addy of the remote client21:19
zleapdisplay 0:0 islocal then other numbers refer to other displays ( I am not an expert though)21:20
n1md4erm - i've screwed a mythbuntu boot process.  I've sda with the install on it, sdb with a windows install, and sdc as a new raid1 half (the other will later be sda).  I've got stuff on sdc, but it shouldnt' be doing anything.  Anyway, every time i boot now, it asks if I want to activate md raid, regardless of what I reply it drops me to busybox .... ideas?21:22
n1md4vnc won't extend screens, it'll only allow remote hosts to attach to it (afaik)21:23
Azelphurzleap: well in theory they'd both be local and you'd just vnc into it?21:23
AzelphurI know you can do totally separate X screens too, the joining of the displays makes it hard21:23
n1md4http://superuser.com/questions/305725/linux-use-vnc-to-create-a-second-screen21:24
n1md4http://askubuntu.com/questions/65928/adding-a-virtual-screen-to-xorg-conf-11-04-third-display-over-vnc21:24
n1md4in case you've not seen those ...21:24
n1md4Gonna have to try that at work tomorrow :D !!21:24
Azelphurhehe21:26
AzelphurI think the xdmx thing is the only thing that might work21:26
Azelphurbut modifying stuff to set up like that by default will be difficult21:26
Azelphurand enabling the second screen on the fly21:26
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