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inetprofp06:37
inetprogood mornings06:37
charlvngood morning all06:42
charlvnhi inetpro 06:42
charlvnMaaz: coffee on06:42
* Maaz starts grinding coffee06:42
MaazCoffee's ready for charlvn!06:46
inetprohi charlvn06:58
Kilosmorning guys07:00
Kiloshiya maiatoday 07:00
maiatodayhi Kilos07:03
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charlvnmorning Kilos, maiatoday 07:15
inetprogood mornings Kilos and maiatoday07:36
Kiloshiya inetpro 07:36
magespawngood morning all08:20
Squirmmorning09:21
magespawnAWAY working(sigh)09:21
* inetpro wonders what people use for network diagrams these days09:36
inetproanyone found something decent one can use on Ubuntu yet?09:37
SmilyBorginetpro: the best I've found so far on Linux is Dia and it's pretty disappointing compared to a version of Visio that I used like 6-8 years back09:40
inetproSmilyBorg: eish! Everything still the same then?09:41
SmilyBorgunfortunatly09:41
inetprocan't believe with all the nice goodies on Linux and Android that nobody has come up with a decent replacement for Visio09:43
* SmilyBorg nods09:45
smilehi :p10:27
smileif I have a Maaz message, what do I have to type? :p10:27
smile:)10:27
not_foundo/10:41
magespawnsmile a message for you from Maaz or from you to someone else?11:18
smilefor me from maaz, but I already saw it :)11:32
smilethanks anyway, magespawn :)11:32
magespawnnp smile11:32
BorrisDieBlokmanola ola11:36
magespawnhi BorrisDieBlokman11:36
BorrisDieBlokmanhope all is well?11:36
magespawnso far it is11:36
BorrisDieBlokmanthats good11:37
BorrisDieBlokmanany news on Ubuntu on Droid?11:37
magespawnno I have not heard anything new yet.11:38
Kilosoh my12:16
Kilosafternoon all of you12:16
Kiloshiya BorrisDieBlokman 12:17
Kilosis jy nuut hier?12:17
Kilosaw where my fly12:17
Kilosinetpro, wassup12:17
Kilos??12:18
inetproeh Kilos12:18
inetproyou got lost somewhere in space?12:18
Kiloslooked at unity on the 20g from nuvolari , gonna take some getting used to12:19
inetproyou got it working?12:19
Kiloscant get it too connect with this modem so came back on maverick12:19
inetprohmm...12:19
Kilosit doesnt see you got a broadband googie added12:19
Kilosor maybe they dont like voda because i tried fone with 8ta and it connected12:20
Kilosbut R2 on there so cut off put voda sim in fone and it wouldnt connect12:21
Kilosgrrr12:21
Kiloswill only put the 8ta airtime on wed morn12:21
Kilosactually came to look for the unity guide as well12:23
KilosMaaz, unity guide12:24
Maazhttp://ubuntu-za.org/news/2012/06/21/unity-orientation-guide-ubuntu-1204-lts12:24
Kilosha ha first thing they sa Simplify your life12:27
Kilossay12:27
Kilosinetpro, waars jy?12:32
Kilosbesig?12:32
Kilosof slaap jy nog12:32
inetproeh skuus, wat sr jy?12:32
inetproeish!12:33
inetpro...wat sê jy?12:33
Kiloshaha ek sukkel met n ooi wat lam is12:33
Kilossy lyk gesond maar kannie opstaan nie12:33
inetproai12:34
Kilosmet 4 klein bosluise by haar poepol af gehaal12:34
Kilosso rooi met swart bo rug12:34
Kilosdink dis verlammings bosluise12:34
inetprosjoe12:35
Kiloskannie goed genoeg sien nie maar as ek reg onthou is dit die bontpoot luis wat die verlamming ene is12:35
Kilossal later sien of ek reg is12:36
inetproKilos: hoe lank al?12:37
Kilosas ek onthou so 3 tot 6 ure dan staan hulle op12:38
Kilosdis nou amper n huur12:38
inetproai, hoop maar jy het almal gevind12:39
inetpronie veel anders wat ek van weet wat jy kan doen nie12:40
Kilosnee jy moet die goet net vind en aftrek12:40
inetpronet mooi teen die vel aftrek12:41
Kiloshet probeer ja maar het fingers naels so n uur voor dit gesny12:42
Kiloslol12:42
Kilossall nou nou gaan met n eyebrow tweezer en vergroot glas12:43
KilosMaaz, coffee on12:43
* Maaz puts the kettle on12:43
inetproai12:44
Kiloslmga12:45
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos!12:47
KilosMaaz, ty12:47
MaazYou are welcome Kilos12:47
inetproKilos: http://www.agriwiki.co.za/index.php?title=Karoo_%E2%80%93_Bosluisverlamming12:48
Kilosty12:49
Kiloshet die borris darem gegroet?12:56
charlvngood afternoon13:52
charlvnhectic day13:52
charlvnMaaz: coffee on13:52
* Maaz flips the salt-timer13:52
MaazCoffee's ready for charlvn!13:56
magespawnlater all.15:04
Kilosyo superfly 16:05
Kilosim leaning towards kubuntu slowly but surely16:05
Kiloshi not_found 16:06
not_foundhello uncle Kilos 16:06
Kilosunity giving me big grief. have to come back to maverick to get online16:06
Kilosbut doesnt look too bad16:07
Kiloshi smile 16:07
KilosSquirm, 16:07
Kiloset al16:07
smilehi Kilos :p16:17
Kilosyo nuvolari 16:25
magespawnevening all17:14
charlvnhi magespawn 17:27
Kiloshi magespawn charlvn 17:27
magespawnhi charlvn , Kilos17:28
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Kilosyo Guest18866 17:28
Kiloshow can unity make  my whole /home/ and stuff dpkg needs access to read only17:36
KilosBad install or what17:36
Kilosand it lets me enable bobile broadband with the fone plugged in but no such option with usb modem17:37
Kilosgrrr17:37
Kilosbobile/mobile17:38
magespawntrials and tribulation of unity17:41
Kiloslol how can even my desktop be read only17:41
Kiloscant make a file to get logs17:42
Kilosand error reports17:42
Kiloscant install aptitude even because dpkg hasnt got access to some file in the /var/ things17:43
magespawnsounds strange, looks like something went wrong somewhere17:45
magespawncan you chown?17:45
Kilosyeah tried and still wont let dpkg work17:45
magespawnwhat do the other s say?17:46
Kilosgood thing i didnt install it on this drive first17:46
Kilosno one has said anything. i been offline mosta the day17:46
Kiloscant be here and install unity17:46
magespawnoh right.17:46
magespawnsheep?17:47
Kiloshas unity got synaptic package manager?17:47
Kiloslol spent some time with them today but mostly here with unity17:47
Kiloshad to pull ticks off ones bum17:48
Kilosparalisisticks17:48
Kilosgrr17:48
Kilosthem what paralyze sheep and goats17:48
Kiloswb tumbleweed 17:51
charlvnhi Kilos 17:56
charlvnsorry was busy talking to my mom17:56
Kilosnp17:56
charlvnhow's it going17:56
Kilosok ty and you?17:57
charlvngood good17:57
charlvnbusy buying a new bike17:57
Kiloswhat bike?17:57
charlvnat this point i want the betavus winner17:58
charlvnlooks like a good all-round bike17:59
charlvni don't do sporting or anything, i just use it to get around town etc, and i enjoy biking around over the weekend17:59
Kilosin summer. winter too cold18:00
Kilosmind you when you young your skin is thick18:00
charlvnnot always, i don't mind biking around when it's >0 but when it falls below 0 i don't like to bike18:00
charlvnthen i take the bus :P18:00
Kiloslol18:00
charlvnlast winter was really warm but who knows what this winter will be like18:00
charlvnalthough we did have two weeks of cold, came down to -1518:01
Kiloswhen you go over 80 kph your temp drops 10ooc18:01
Kilosgrr18:01
Kilos10°c18:01
charlvnheh if i manage to go 80 kmph on a bicycle i will fall off the damn thing lol18:01
Kiloswind chill factor18:01
Kilosi would die at -1518:01
Kilosbefore that even18:02
charlvnno i tend to go slow on a bike in any case, the distances here are not too great, i live like 15 mins from my work18:02
Kilosah thats lekker18:02
Kilosslow is forold peeps18:03
nuvolarihello's :)18:03
Kilosoh and geeks i spose18:03
Kiloslo nuvolari 18:03
charlvnlol i enjoy the outdoors18:03
charlvnsince i don't get out much :P18:03
nuvolarihi oom Kilos, charlvn 18:03
charlvnactually for a geek i do get out a lot, i like to travel18:03
charlvnhi nuvolari 18:03
Kilosnuvolari, i could maybe get used to unity if it worked18:04
nuvolarithe what what?18:04
nuvolarididn't you get the 3d card working oom Kilos ?18:05
Kilos12.04 unity18:05
Kilosya man its the audio card that doesnt18:05
Kilosi see unity kiff18:07
superflyKilos: what does lspci show you?18:09
Kilosmin wr things superfly  lots r's18:09
superflyKilos: and are you sure that the audio is not just muted?18:09
Kiloscant member now because i couldnt even open or make a file to copy to18:10
superflyKilos: huh?18:10
magespawnKilos did you id the ticks?18:10
Kilosif i plug in to onboard aound plug audio works18:10
superfly"lspci" is a command, one word18:10
Kilossquashed them magespawn 18:11
Kilosaw i did ls -pci18:11
Kilosi think18:11
charlvnah it could be outputting to the wrong device if you have more than one18:11
superflyKilos: If I'd wanted "ls -pci" I would have asked for it18:11
charlvni used to have that problem on an old computer of mine18:11
nuvolariyeah, I had that issue with it too18:12
Kilossuperfly, im on maverick i cant do lspci on the other drive18:12
nuvolariI just dunno how to tell someone how to fix it18:12
nuvolarieh?18:12
superflyKilos: is it the same computer?18:12
charlvnon gnome3 you get a list of the hardware devices if you go under the audio settings18:12
nuvolarilspci is a standard command, not?18:12
charlvnbut i don't know if it's the same on the others18:12
charlvnthere is a tab "hardware" and under that it lists all the devices18:13
Kilosyes but cant boot with both drives connected goes to the unity one even though maverick is the primary18:13
charlvnif you click the speaker icon and click "Sound Settings" for example18:13
superflyKilos: then lspci on either one will be the same18:13
Kilosoh ok18:13
Kilossec18:13
nuvolariKilos: do you have the alsamixer app installed? (cli)18:14
nuvolariit will list when it detects more than 1 device too18:14
nuvolari(by pressing F6)18:14
charlvnthat's a good idea nuvolari 18:14
charlvnon my macbook pro i used to have to tweak some stuff under that as well18:15
charlvnit gives you the full overview of the sound settings, much better than the guy utils18:15
Kilossuperfly, http://slexy.org/view/s2yQwNVJdj18:15
Kiloson maverick yes nuvolari i have alsa mixer18:15
nuvolariline 13 oom kilos18:15
charlvnyup there is two audio devices you have18:16
charlvnon lines 6 and 1318:16
charlvni assume 6 is your on-board sound and 13 is your card18:16
Kilosya18:16
charlvn*gui utils, not guy utils... yuck18:17
charlvnbad typo18:17
nuvolarilol18:17
* nuvolari wondered what that meant18:17
charlvnyeah sorry :S18:17
charlvnnot good18:17
charlvni hate it when you try to type "guy" and accidentally type "gay", that also happens18:17
charlvncan get people rather worked up by accideent18:17
charlvn*accident18:17
nuvolarilol I can imagine18:18
nuvolarioom Kilos, at least we know the system picks it up18:18
Kilosya18:18
Kilosim tempted to install unity here in place of maverick18:19
Kiloscan always come online with 11.04 on the 6g18:19
charlvnsorry i need to go do stuff... bbbl18:20
charlvnbbl - what the heck is up with my typing tonight18:20
Kilosmaybe that 20g isnt happy nuvolari had to try install 3 or 4 times then put xp then only did it take 12.0418:20
Kiloslater charlvn 18:21
Kilosgot kernel panics first 3 times with unity and once with maverick18:21
Kilosthen after xp it took unity 18:22
superflyKilos: kernel panics usually indicate bad hardware18:22
Kilosmust been a bad boot sector18:22
nuvolarioom Kilos unity is not an ubuntu version :P it's a desktop environment18:22
nuvolariyou have me all confused 18:23
Kilossuperfly, is there a way to see if there are bad sectors with ubuntu18:23
superflyKilos: yes, I think so18:23
Kilosunity is easier to type than 12.0418:23
Kilosno .18:23
nuvolaribut unity was in 11.x too18:23
Kilosbecause once before maverick told me there were bmany bad sectors but not this time18:24
Kilosnuvolari, if i say unity you must know im using 12.0418:24
nuvolaribut you could be using xfce on 12.04 too18:25
nuvolariwhich will make that box a speeding bullet18:25
superflyKilos: that will be because once the sectors are marked as bad, they are no longer used, and your hard drive skips past them without telling hte operating system18:25
Kilosthen i will tell you beforehand18:25
Kilosoh my. no way to see if there are bad ones unless i install xp there hey?18:26
Kilosmethinks its scandisk or defrag that used to show bad sectors18:26
superflyKilos: well, I'm sure whatever app on Ubuntu does that will be able to do that too18:27
Kiloslol18:27
superflymy point is that it won't continue to report existing marked bad sectors unless you look for them specifically18:27
Kilosok i ask maaz to google18:27
psydroidhi Kilos and superfly18:28
superflyhi psydroid18:28
Kilosi would like to see if there are any yes18:28
Kiloshi psydroid 18:28
nuvolari\o/ tomorrow's forecast is a little bit warmer18:28
smileKilos: type in your terminal:     telnet miku.acm.uiuc.edu :p18:30
smile:)18:30
smilelots of fun guaranteed ;)18:30
Kilosno man im trying to fix a drive and unity18:31
Kilos Servname not supported for ai_socktype18:31
Kilossomething called badblocks superfly 18:31
smile:(18:32
nuvolarismile: can I try?18:32
Kerberosmile: werkt niet18:32
smilenuvolari: yes you can ;)18:32
smileKerbero: werkt wel. zonder spaties he. :p18:32
nuvolarilol18:33
smiletelnet miku.acm.uiuc.edu18:33
smile:p18:33
smilenuvolari: you found the cat? ;)18:33
nuvolariye :>18:33
Kerberonope18:33
Kerberowerkt niet18:33
smileKerbero: oh :o18:33
smilei have to go, bye :p18:33
nuvolarinyaned for almost a minute18:33
nuvolariok bubye18:33
smile:)18:33
smilesee ya :)18:33
Kiloscheers smile18:34
Kilossleep tight18:34
Kilosgrrr18:34
Kilossuperfly, here is the command sudo badblocks -v /dev/sdb118:37
Kilosso nuvolari must i switch off the sound goodie in bios? called ac97 i think?18:54
Kilosalsa mixer sees the sb card but still no sound comes out18:55
Kiloswe look tomorrow. sleep tight all18:57
magespawngood night all19:11
charlvnanyone still around?20:06
inetprono20:09
inetpronot me20:10
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