[06:37] <inetpro> fp
[06:37] <inetpro> good mornings
[06:42] <charlvn> good morning all
[06:42] <charlvn> hi inetpro 
[06:42] <charlvn> Maaz: coffee on
[06:42]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[06:46] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charlvn!
[06:58] <inetpro> hi charlvn
[07:00] <Kilos> morning guys
[07:00] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday 
[07:03] <maiatoday> hi Kilos
[07:15] <charlvn> morning Kilos, maiatoday 
[07:36] <inetpro> good mornings Kilos and maiatoday
[07:36] <Kilos> hiya inetpro 
[08:20] <magespawn> good morning all
[09:21] <Squirm> morning
[09:21] <magespawn> AWAY working(sigh)
[09:36]  * inetpro wonders what people use for network diagrams these days
[09:37] <inetpro> anyone found something decent one can use on Ubuntu yet?
[09:40] <SmilyBorg> inetpro: the best I've found so far on Linux is Dia and it's pretty disappointing compared to a version of Visio that I used like 6-8 years back
[09:41] <inetpro> SmilyBorg: eish! Everything still the same then?
[09:41] <SmilyBorg> unfortunatly
[09:43] <inetpro> can't believe with all the nice goodies on Linux and Android that nobody has come up with a decent replacement for Visio
[09:45]  * SmilyBorg nods
[10:27] <smile> hi :p
[10:27] <smile> if I have a Maaz message, what do I have to type? :p
[10:27] <smile> :)
[10:41] <not_found> o/
[11:18] <magespawn> smile a message for you from Maaz or from you to someone else?
[11:32] <smile> for me from maaz, but I already saw it :)
[11:32] <smile> thanks anyway, magespawn :)
[11:32] <magespawn> np smile
[11:36] <BorrisDieBlokman> ola ola
[11:36] <magespawn> hi BorrisDieBlokman
[11:36] <BorrisDieBlokman> hope all is well?
[11:36] <magespawn> so far it is
[11:37] <BorrisDieBlokman> thats good
[11:37] <BorrisDieBlokman> any news on Ubuntu on Droid?
[11:38] <magespawn> no I have not heard anything new yet.
[12:16] <Kilos> oh my
[12:16] <Kilos> afternoon all of you
[12:17] <Kilos> hiya BorrisDieBlokman 
[12:17] <Kilos> is jy nuut hier?
[12:17] <Kilos> aw where my fly
[12:17] <Kilos> inetpro, wassup
[12:18] <Kilos> ??
[12:18] <inetpro> eh Kilos
[12:18] <inetpro> you got lost somewhere in space?
[12:19] <Kilos> looked at unity on the 20g from nuvolari , gonna take some getting used to
[12:19] <inetpro> you got it working?
[12:19] <Kilos> cant get it too connect with this modem so came back on maverick
[12:19] <inetpro> hmm...
[12:19] <Kilos> it doesnt see you got a broadband googie added
[12:20] <Kilos> or maybe they dont like voda because i tried fone with 8ta and it connected
[12:21] <Kilos> but R2 on there so cut off put voda sim in fone and it wouldnt connect
[12:21] <Kilos> grrr
[12:21] <Kilos> will only put the 8ta airtime on wed morn
[12:23] <Kilos> actually came to look for the unity guide as well
[12:24] <Kilos> Maaz, unity guide
[12:24] <Maaz> http://ubuntu-za.org/news/2012/06/21/unity-orientation-guide-ubuntu-1204-lts
[12:27] <Kilos> ha ha first thing they sa Simplify your life
[12:27] <Kilos> say
[12:32] <Kilos> inetpro, waars jy?
[12:32] <Kilos> besig?
[12:32] <Kilos> of slaap jy nog
[12:32] <inetpro> eh skuus, wat sr jy?
[12:33] <inetpro> eish!
[12:33] <inetpro> ...wat sê jy?
[12:33] <Kilos> haha ek sukkel met n ooi wat lam is
[12:33] <Kilos> sy lyk gesond maar kannie opstaan nie
[12:34] <inetpro> ai
[12:34] <Kilos> met 4 klein bosluise by haar poepol af gehaal
[12:34] <Kilos> so rooi met swart bo rug
[12:34] <Kilos> dink dis verlammings bosluise
[12:35] <inetpro> sjoe
[12:35] <Kilos> kannie goed genoeg sien nie maar as ek reg onthou is dit die bontpoot luis wat die verlamming ene is
[12:36] <Kilos> sal later sien of ek reg is
[12:37] <inetpro> Kilos: hoe lank al?
[12:38] <Kilos> as ek onthou so 3 tot 6 ure dan staan hulle op
[12:38] <Kilos> dis nou amper n huur
[12:39] <inetpro> ai, hoop maar jy het almal gevind
[12:40] <inetpro> nie veel anders wat ek van weet wat jy kan doen nie
[12:40] <Kilos> nee jy moet die goet net vind en aftrek
[12:41] <inetpro> net mooi teen die vel aftrek
[12:42] <Kilos> het probeer ja maar het fingers naels so n uur voor dit gesny
[12:42] <Kilos> lol
[12:43] <Kilos> sall nou nou gaan met n eyebrow tweezer en vergroot glas
[12:43] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[12:43]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[12:44] <inetpro> ai
[12:45] <Kilos> lmga
[12:47] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[12:47] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[12:47] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[12:48] <inetpro> Kilos: http://www.agriwiki.co.za/index.php?title=Karoo_%E2%80%93_Bosluisverlamming
[12:49] <Kilos> ty
[12:56] <Kilos> het die borris darem gegroet?
[13:52] <charlvn> good afternoon
[13:52] <charlvn> hectic day
[13:52] <charlvn> Maaz: coffee on
[13:52]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[13:56] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charlvn!
[15:04] <magespawn> later all.
[16:05] <Kilos> yo superfly 
[16:05] <Kilos> im leaning towards kubuntu slowly but surely
[16:06] <Kilos> hi not_found 
[16:06] <not_found> hello uncle Kilos 
[16:06] <Kilos> unity giving me big grief. have to come back to maverick to get online
[16:07] <Kilos> but doesnt look too bad
[16:07] <Kilos> hi smile 
[16:07] <Kilos> Squirm, 
[16:07] <Kilos> et al
[16:17] <smile> hi Kilos :p
[16:25] <Kilos> yo nuvolari 
[17:14] <magespawn> evening all
[17:27] <charlvn> hi magespawn 
[17:27] <Kilos> hi magespawn charlvn 
[17:28] <magespawn> hi charlvn , Kilos
[17:28] <Kilos> yo Guest18866 
[17:36] <Kilos> how can unity make  my whole /home/ and stuff dpkg needs access to read only
[17:36] <Kilos> Bad install or what
[17:37] <Kilos> and it lets me enable bobile broadband with the fone plugged in but no such option with usb modem
[17:37] <Kilos> grrr
[17:38] <Kilos> bobile/mobile
[17:41] <magespawn> trials and tribulation of unity
[17:41] <Kilos> lol how can even my desktop be read only
[17:42] <Kilos> cant make a file to get logs
[17:42] <Kilos> and error reports
[17:43] <Kilos> cant install aptitude even because dpkg hasnt got access to some file in the /var/ things
[17:45] <magespawn> sounds strange, looks like something went wrong somewhere
[17:45] <magespawn> can you chown?
[17:45] <Kilos> yeah tried and still wont let dpkg work
[17:46] <magespawn> what do the other s say?
[17:46] <Kilos> good thing i didnt install it on this drive first
[17:46] <Kilos> no one has said anything. i been offline mosta the day
[17:46] <Kilos> cant be here and install unity
[17:46] <magespawn> oh right.
[17:47] <magespawn> sheep?
[17:47] <Kilos> has unity got synaptic package manager?
[17:47] <Kilos> lol spent some time with them today but mostly here with unity
[17:48] <Kilos> had to pull ticks off ones bum
[17:48] <Kilos> paralisisticks
[17:48] <Kilos> grr
[17:48] <Kilos> them what paralyze sheep and goats
[17:51] <Kilos> wb tumbleweed 
[17:56] <charlvn> hi Kilos 
[17:56] <charlvn> sorry was busy talking to my mom
[17:56] <Kilos> np
[17:56] <charlvn> how's it going
[17:57] <Kilos> ok ty and you?
[17:57] <charlvn> good good
[17:57] <charlvn> busy buying a new bike
[17:57] <Kilos> what bike?
[17:58] <charlvn> at this point i want the betavus winner
[17:59] <charlvn> looks like a good all-round bike
[17:59] <charlvn> i don't do sporting or anything, i just use it to get around town etc, and i enjoy biking around over the weekend
[18:00] <Kilos> in summer. winter too cold
[18:00] <Kilos> mind you when you young your skin is thick
[18:00] <charlvn> not always, i don't mind biking around when it's >0 but when it falls below 0 i don't like to bike
[18:00] <charlvn> then i take the bus :P
[18:00] <Kilos> lol
[18:00] <charlvn> last winter was really warm but who knows what this winter will be like
[18:01] <charlvn> although we did have two weeks of cold, came down to -15
[18:01] <Kilos> when you go over 80 kph your temp drops 10ooc
[18:01] <Kilos> grr
[18:01] <Kilos> 10°c
[18:01] <charlvn> heh if i manage to go 80 kmph on a bicycle i will fall off the damn thing lol
[18:01] <Kilos> wind chill factor
[18:01] <Kilos> i would die at -15
[18:02] <Kilos> before that even
[18:02] <charlvn> no i tend to go slow on a bike in any case, the distances here are not too great, i live like 15 mins from my work
[18:02] <Kilos> ah thats lekker
[18:03] <Kilos> slow is forold peeps
[18:03] <nuvolari> hello's :)
[18:03] <Kilos> oh and geeks i spose
[18:03] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[18:03] <charlvn> lol i enjoy the outdoors
[18:03] <charlvn> since i don't get out much :P
[18:03] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos, charlvn 
[18:03] <charlvn> actually for a geek i do get out a lot, i like to travel
[18:03] <charlvn> hi nuvolari 
[18:04] <Kilos> nuvolari, i could maybe get used to unity if it worked
[18:04] <nuvolari> the what what?
[18:05] <nuvolari> didn't you get the 3d card working oom Kilos ?
[18:05] <Kilos> 12.04 unity
[18:05] <Kilos> ya man its the audio card that doesnt
[18:07] <Kilos> i see unity kiff
[18:09] <superfly> Kilos: what does lspci show you?
[18:09] <Kilos> min wr things superfly  lots r's
[18:09] <superfly> Kilos: and are you sure that the audio is not just muted?
[18:10] <Kilos> cant member now because i couldnt even open or make a file to copy to
[18:10] <superfly> Kilos: huh?
[18:10] <magespawn> Kilos did you id the ticks?
[18:10] <Kilos> if i plug in to onboard aound plug audio works
[18:10] <superfly> "lspci" is a command, one word
[18:11] <Kilos> squashed them magespawn 
[18:11] <Kilos> aw i did ls -pci
[18:11] <Kilos> i think
[18:11] <charlvn> ah it could be outputting to the wrong device if you have more than one
[18:11] <superfly> Kilos: If I'd wanted "ls -pci" I would have asked for it
[18:11] <charlvn> i used to have that problem on an old computer of mine
[18:12] <nuvolari> yeah, I had that issue with it too
[18:12] <Kilos> superfly, im on maverick i cant do lspci on the other drive
[18:12] <nuvolari> I just dunno how to tell someone how to fix it
[18:12] <nuvolari> eh?
[18:12] <superfly> Kilos: is it the same computer?
[18:12] <charlvn> on gnome3 you get a list of the hardware devices if you go under the audio settings
[18:12] <nuvolari> lspci is a standard command, not?
[18:12] <charlvn> but i don't know if it's the same on the others
[18:13] <charlvn> there is a tab "hardware" and under that it lists all the devices
[18:13] <Kilos> yes but cant boot with both drives connected goes to the unity one even though maverick is the primary
[18:13] <charlvn> if you click the speaker icon and click "Sound Settings" for example
[18:13] <superfly> Kilos: then lspci on either one will be the same
[18:13] <Kilos> oh ok
[18:13] <Kilos> sec
[18:14] <nuvolari> Kilos: do you have the alsamixer app installed? (cli)
[18:14] <nuvolari> it will list when it detects more than 1 device too
[18:14] <nuvolari> (by pressing F6)
[18:14] <charlvn> that's a good idea nuvolari 
[18:15] <charlvn> on my macbook pro i used to have to tweak some stuff under that as well
[18:15] <charlvn> it gives you the full overview of the sound settings, much better than the guy utils
[18:15] <Kilos> superfly, http://slexy.org/view/s2yQwNVJdj
[18:15] <Kilos> on maverick yes nuvolari i have alsa mixer
[18:15] <nuvolari> line 13 oom kilos
[18:16] <charlvn> yup there is two audio devices you have
[18:16] <charlvn> on lines 6 and 13
[18:16] <charlvn> i assume 6 is your on-board sound and 13 is your card
[18:16] <Kilos> ya
[18:17] <charlvn> *gui utils, not guy utils... yuck
[18:17] <charlvn> bad typo
[18:17] <nuvolari> lol
[18:17]  * nuvolari wondered what that meant
[18:17] <charlvn> yeah sorry :S
[18:17] <charlvn> not good
[18:17] <charlvn> i hate it when you try to type "guy" and accidentally type "gay", that also happens
[18:17] <charlvn> can get people rather worked up by accideent
[18:17] <charlvn> *accident
[18:18] <nuvolari> lol I can imagine
[18:18] <nuvolari> oom Kilos, at least we know the system picks it up
[18:18] <Kilos> ya
[18:19] <Kilos> im tempted to install unity here in place of maverick
[18:19] <Kilos> can always come online with 11.04 on the 6g
[18:20] <charlvn> sorry i need to go do stuff... bbbl
[18:20] <charlvn> bbl - what the heck is up with my typing tonight
[18:20] <Kilos> maybe that 20g isnt happy nuvolari had to try install 3 or 4 times then put xp then only did it take 12.04
[18:21] <Kilos> later charlvn 
[18:21] <Kilos> got kernel panics first 3 times with unity and once with maverick
[18:22] <Kilos> then after xp it took unity 
[18:22] <superfly> Kilos: kernel panics usually indicate bad hardware
[18:22] <Kilos> must been a bad boot sector
[18:22] <nuvolari> oom Kilos unity is not an ubuntu version :P it's a desktop environment
[18:23] <nuvolari> you have me all confused 
[18:23] <Kilos> superfly, is there a way to see if there are bad sectors with ubuntu
[18:23] <superfly> Kilos: yes, I think so
[18:23] <Kilos> unity is easier to type than 12.04
[18:23] <Kilos> no .
[18:23] <nuvolari> but unity was in 11.x too
[18:24] <Kilos> because once before maverick told me there were bmany bad sectors but not this time
[18:24] <Kilos> nuvolari, if i say unity you must know im using 12.04
[18:25] <nuvolari> but you could be using xfce on 12.04 too
[18:25] <nuvolari> which will make that box a speeding bullet
[18:25] <superfly> Kilos: that will be because once the sectors are marked as bad, they are no longer used, and your hard drive skips past them without telling hte operating system
[18:25] <Kilos> then i will tell you beforehand
[18:26] <Kilos> oh my. no way to see if there are bad ones unless i install xp there hey?
[18:26] <Kilos> methinks its scandisk or defrag that used to show bad sectors
[18:27] <superfly> Kilos: well, I'm sure whatever app on Ubuntu does that will be able to do that too
[18:27] <Kilos> lol
[18:27] <superfly> my point is that it won't continue to report existing marked bad sectors unless you look for them specifically
[18:27] <Kilos> ok i ask maaz to google
[18:28] <psydroid> hi Kilos and superfly
[18:28] <superfly> hi psydroid
[18:28] <Kilos> i would like to see if there are any yes
[18:28] <Kilos> hi psydroid 
[18:28] <nuvolari> \o/ tomorrow's forecast is a little bit warmer
[18:30] <smile> Kilos: type in your terminal:     telnet miku.acm.uiuc.edu :p
[18:30] <smile> :)
[18:30] <smile> lots of fun guaranteed ;)
[18:31] <Kilos> no man im trying to fix a drive and unity
[18:31] <Kilos>  Servname not supported for ai_socktype
[18:31] <Kilos> something called badblocks superfly 
[18:32] <smile> :(
[18:32] <nuvolari> smile: can I try?
[18:32] <Kerbero> smile: werkt niet
[18:32] <smile> nuvolari: yes you can ;)
[18:32] <smile> Kerbero: werkt wel. zonder spaties he. :p
[18:33] <nuvolari> lol
[18:33] <smile> telnet miku.acm.uiuc.edu
[18:33] <smile> :p
[18:33] <smile> nuvolari: you found the cat? ;)
[18:33] <nuvolari> ye :>
[18:33] <Kerbero> nope
[18:33] <Kerbero> werkt niet
[18:33] <smile> Kerbero: oh :o
[18:33] <smile> i have to go, bye :p
[18:33] <nuvolari> nyaned for almost a minute
[18:33] <nuvolari> ok bubye
[18:33] <smile> :)
[18:33] <smile> see ya :)
[18:34] <Kilos> cheers smile
[18:34] <Kilos> sleep tight
[18:34] <Kilos> grrr
[18:37] <Kilos> superfly, here is the command sudo badblocks -v /dev/sdb1
[18:54] <Kilos> so nuvolari must i switch off the sound goodie in bios? called ac97 i think?
[18:55] <Kilos> alsa mixer sees the sb card but still no sound comes out
[18:57] <Kilos> we look tomorrow. sleep tight all
[19:11] <magespawn> good night all
[20:06] <charlvn> anyone still around?
[20:09] <inetpro> no
[20:10] <inetpro> not me