[06:37] fp [06:37] good mornings [06:42] good morning all [06:42] hi inetpro [06:42] Maaz: coffee on [06:42] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [06:46] Coffee's ready for charlvn! [06:58] hi charlvn [07:00] morning guys [07:00] hiya maiatoday [07:03] hi Kilos === SmilyBorg_w is now known as SmilyBorg [07:15] morning Kilos, maiatoday [07:36] good mornings Kilos and maiatoday [07:36] hiya inetpro [08:20] good morning all [09:21] morning [09:21] AWAY working(sigh) [09:36] * inetpro wonders what people use for network diagrams these days [09:37] anyone found something decent one can use on Ubuntu yet? [09:40] inetpro: the best I've found so far on Linux is Dia and it's pretty disappointing compared to a version of Visio that I used like 6-8 years back [09:41] SmilyBorg: eish! Everything still the same then? [09:41] unfortunatly [09:43] can't believe with all the nice goodies on Linux and Android that nobody has come up with a decent replacement for Visio [09:45] * SmilyBorg nods [10:27] hi :p [10:27] if I have a Maaz message, what do I have to type? :p [10:27] :) [10:41] o/ [11:18] smile a message for you from Maaz or from you to someone else? [11:32] for me from maaz, but I already saw it :) [11:32] thanks anyway, magespawn :) [11:32] np smile [11:36] ola ola [11:36] hi BorrisDieBlokman [11:36] hope all is well? [11:36] so far it is [11:37] thats good [11:37] any news on Ubuntu on Droid? [11:38] no I have not heard anything new yet. [12:16] oh my [12:16] afternoon all of you [12:17] hiya BorrisDieBlokman [12:17] is jy nuut hier? [12:17] aw where my fly [12:17] inetpro, wassup [12:18] ?? [12:18] eh Kilos [12:18] you got lost somewhere in space? [12:19] looked at unity on the 20g from nuvolari , gonna take some getting used to [12:19] you got it working? [12:19] cant get it too connect with this modem so came back on maverick [12:19] hmm... [12:19] it doesnt see you got a broadband googie added [12:20] or maybe they dont like voda because i tried fone with 8ta and it connected [12:21] but R2 on there so cut off put voda sim in fone and it wouldnt connect [12:21] grrr [12:21] will only put the 8ta airtime on wed morn [12:23] actually came to look for the unity guide as well [12:24] Maaz, unity guide [12:24] http://ubuntu-za.org/news/2012/06/21/unity-orientation-guide-ubuntu-1204-lts [12:27] ha ha first thing they sa Simplify your life [12:27] say [12:32] inetpro, waars jy? [12:32] besig? [12:32] of slaap jy nog [12:32] eh skuus, wat sr jy? [12:33] eish! [12:33] ...wat sê jy? [12:33] haha ek sukkel met n ooi wat lam is [12:33] sy lyk gesond maar kannie opstaan nie [12:34] ai [12:34] met 4 klein bosluise by haar poepol af gehaal [12:34] so rooi met swart bo rug [12:34] dink dis verlammings bosluise [12:35] sjoe [12:35] kannie goed genoeg sien nie maar as ek reg onthou is dit die bontpoot luis wat die verlamming ene is [12:36] sal later sien of ek reg is [12:37] Kilos: hoe lank al? [12:38] as ek onthou so 3 tot 6 ure dan staan hulle op [12:38] dis nou amper n huur [12:39] ai, hoop maar jy het almal gevind [12:40] nie veel anders wat ek van weet wat jy kan doen nie [12:40] nee jy moet die goet net vind en aftrek [12:41] net mooi teen die vel aftrek [12:42] het probeer ja maar het fingers naels so n uur voor dit gesny [12:42] lol [12:43] sall nou nou gaan met n eyebrow tweezer en vergroot glas [12:43] Maaz, coffee on [12:43] * Maaz puts the kettle on [12:44] ai [12:45] lmga [12:47] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [12:47] Maaz, ty [12:47] You are welcome Kilos [12:48] Kilos: http://www.agriwiki.co.za/index.php?title=Karoo_%E2%80%93_Bosluisverlamming [12:49] ty [12:56] het die borris darem gegroet? [13:52] good afternoon [13:52] hectic day [13:52] Maaz: coffee on [13:52] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [13:56] Coffee's ready for charlvn! [15:04] later all. [16:05] yo superfly [16:05] im leaning towards kubuntu slowly but surely [16:06] hi not_found [16:06] hello uncle Kilos [16:06] unity giving me big grief. have to come back to maverick to get online [16:07] but doesnt look too bad [16:07] hi smile [16:07] Squirm, [16:07] et al [16:17] hi Kilos :p [16:25] yo nuvolari [17:14] evening all [17:27] hi magespawn [17:27] hi magespawn charlvn [17:28] hi charlvn , Kilos === SmilyBorg_l is now known as Guest18866 [17:28] yo Guest18866 [17:36] how can unity make my whole /home/ and stuff dpkg needs access to read only [17:36] Bad install or what [17:37] and it lets me enable bobile broadband with the fone plugged in but no such option with usb modem [17:37] grrr [17:38] bobile/mobile [17:41] trials and tribulation of unity [17:41] lol how can even my desktop be read only [17:42] cant make a file to get logs [17:42] and error reports [17:43] cant install aptitude even because dpkg hasnt got access to some file in the /var/ things [17:45] sounds strange, looks like something went wrong somewhere [17:45] can you chown? [17:45] yeah tried and still wont let dpkg work [17:46] what do the other s say? [17:46] good thing i didnt install it on this drive first [17:46] no one has said anything. i been offline mosta the day [17:46] cant be here and install unity [17:46] oh right. [17:47] sheep? [17:47] has unity got synaptic package manager? [17:47] lol spent some time with them today but mostly here with unity [17:48] had to pull ticks off ones bum [17:48] paralisisticks [17:48] grr [17:48] them what paralyze sheep and goats [17:51] wb tumbleweed [17:56] hi Kilos [17:56] sorry was busy talking to my mom [17:56] np [17:56] how's it going [17:57] ok ty and you? [17:57] good good [17:57] busy buying a new bike [17:57] what bike? [17:58] at this point i want the betavus winner [17:59] looks like a good all-round bike [17:59] i don't do sporting or anything, i just use it to get around town etc, and i enjoy biking around over the weekend [18:00] in summer. winter too cold [18:00] mind you when you young your skin is thick [18:00] not always, i don't mind biking around when it's >0 but when it falls below 0 i don't like to bike [18:00] then i take the bus :P [18:00] lol [18:00] last winter was really warm but who knows what this winter will be like [18:01] although we did have two weeks of cold, came down to -15 [18:01] when you go over 80 kph your temp drops 10ooc [18:01] grr [18:01] 10°c [18:01] heh if i manage to go 80 kmph on a bicycle i will fall off the damn thing lol [18:01] wind chill factor [18:01] i would die at -15 [18:02] before that even [18:02] no i tend to go slow on a bike in any case, the distances here are not too great, i live like 15 mins from my work [18:02] ah thats lekker [18:03] slow is forold peeps [18:03] hello's :) [18:03] oh and geeks i spose [18:03] lo nuvolari [18:03] lol i enjoy the outdoors [18:03] since i don't get out much :P [18:03] hi oom Kilos, charlvn [18:03] actually for a geek i do get out a lot, i like to travel [18:03] hi nuvolari [18:04] nuvolari, i could maybe get used to unity if it worked [18:04] the what what? [18:05] didn't you get the 3d card working oom Kilos ? [18:05] 12.04 unity [18:05] ya man its the audio card that doesnt [18:07] i see unity kiff [18:09] Kilos: what does lspci show you? [18:09] min wr things superfly lots r's [18:09] Kilos: and are you sure that the audio is not just muted? [18:10] cant member now because i couldnt even open or make a file to copy to [18:10] Kilos: huh? [18:10] Kilos did you id the ticks? [18:10] if i plug in to onboard aound plug audio works [18:10] "lspci" is a command, one word [18:11] squashed them magespawn [18:11] aw i did ls -pci [18:11] i think [18:11] ah it could be outputting to the wrong device if you have more than one [18:11] Kilos: If I'd wanted "ls -pci" I would have asked for it [18:11] i used to have that problem on an old computer of mine [18:12] yeah, I had that issue with it too [18:12] superfly, im on maverick i cant do lspci on the other drive [18:12] I just dunno how to tell someone how to fix it [18:12] eh? [18:12] Kilos: is it the same computer? [18:12] on gnome3 you get a list of the hardware devices if you go under the audio settings [18:12] lspci is a standard command, not? [18:12] but i don't know if it's the same on the others [18:13] there is a tab "hardware" and under that it lists all the devices [18:13] yes but cant boot with both drives connected goes to the unity one even though maverick is the primary [18:13] if you click the speaker icon and click "Sound Settings" for example [18:13] Kilos: then lspci on either one will be the same [18:13] oh ok [18:13] sec [18:14] Kilos: do you have the alsamixer app installed? (cli) [18:14] it will list when it detects more than 1 device too [18:14] (by pressing F6) [18:14] that's a good idea nuvolari [18:15] on my macbook pro i used to have to tweak some stuff under that as well [18:15] it gives you the full overview of the sound settings, much better than the guy utils [18:15] superfly, http://slexy.org/view/s2yQwNVJdj [18:15] on maverick yes nuvolari i have alsa mixer [18:15] line 13 oom kilos [18:16] yup there is two audio devices you have [18:16] on lines 6 and 13 [18:16] i assume 6 is your on-board sound and 13 is your card [18:16] ya [18:17] *gui utils, not guy utils... yuck [18:17] bad typo [18:17] lol [18:17] * nuvolari wondered what that meant [18:17] yeah sorry :S [18:17] not good [18:17] i hate it when you try to type "guy" and accidentally type "gay", that also happens [18:17] can get people rather worked up by accideent [18:17] *accident [18:18] lol I can imagine [18:18] oom Kilos, at least we know the system picks it up [18:18] ya [18:19] im tempted to install unity here in place of maverick [18:19] can always come online with 11.04 on the 6g [18:20] sorry i need to go do stuff... bbbl [18:20] bbl - what the heck is up with my typing tonight [18:20] maybe that 20g isnt happy nuvolari had to try install 3 or 4 times then put xp then only did it take 12.04 [18:21] later charlvn [18:21] got kernel panics first 3 times with unity and once with maverick [18:22] then after xp it took unity [18:22] Kilos: kernel panics usually indicate bad hardware [18:22] must been a bad boot sector [18:22] oom Kilos unity is not an ubuntu version :P it's a desktop environment [18:23] you have me all confused [18:23] superfly, is there a way to see if there are bad sectors with ubuntu [18:23] Kilos: yes, I think so [18:23] unity is easier to type than 12.04 [18:23] no . [18:23] but unity was in 11.x too [18:24] because once before maverick told me there were bmany bad sectors but not this time [18:24] nuvolari, if i say unity you must know im using 12.04 [18:25] but you could be using xfce on 12.04 too [18:25] which will make that box a speeding bullet [18:25] Kilos: that will be because once the sectors are marked as bad, they are no longer used, and your hard drive skips past them without telling hte operating system [18:25] then i will tell you beforehand [18:26] oh my. no way to see if there are bad ones unless i install xp there hey? [18:26] methinks its scandisk or defrag that used to show bad sectors [18:27] Kilos: well, I'm sure whatever app on Ubuntu does that will be able to do that too [18:27] lol [18:27] my point is that it won't continue to report existing marked bad sectors unless you look for them specifically [18:27] ok i ask maaz to google [18:28] hi Kilos and superfly [18:28] hi psydroid [18:28] i would like to see if there are any yes [18:28] hi psydroid [18:28] \o/ tomorrow's forecast is a little bit warmer [18:30] Kilos: type in your terminal: telnet miku.acm.uiuc.edu :p [18:30] :) [18:30] lots of fun guaranteed ;) [18:31] no man im trying to fix a drive and unity [18:31] Servname not supported for ai_socktype [18:31] something called badblocks superfly [18:32] :( [18:32] smile: can I try? [18:32] smile: werkt niet [18:32] nuvolari: yes you can ;) [18:32] Kerbero: werkt wel. zonder spaties he. :p [18:33] lol [18:33] telnet miku.acm.uiuc.edu [18:33] :p [18:33] nuvolari: you found the cat? ;) [18:33] ye :> [18:33] nope [18:33] werkt niet [18:33] Kerbero: oh :o [18:33] i have to go, bye :p [18:33] nyaned for almost a minute [18:33] ok bubye [18:33] :) [18:33] see ya :) [18:34] cheers smile [18:34] sleep tight [18:34] grrr [18:37] superfly, here is the command sudo badblocks -v /dev/sdb1 [18:54] so nuvolari must i switch off the sound goodie in bios? called ac97 i think? [18:55] alsa mixer sees the sb card but still no sound comes out [18:57] we look tomorrow. sleep tight all [19:11] good night all [20:06] anyone still around? [20:09] no [20:10] not me === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za