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tethtibismy best guess would be to find the model number of your device and google the model number + ubuntu.00:02
xubuntu911I downloaded the driver onto a usb drive; I'm not sure how to proceed00:03
tethtibistry "restricted drivers" under your system menu.00:03
tethtibisor "hardware drivers" I forget what it's called.00:03
tethtibisdid you download the windows drivers?00:04
tethtibisor is it the .ini file?00:04
xubuntu911its a windows driver .rmt00:04
xubuntu911is there a linux version?00:05
tethtibishrm. have you tried ndiswrapper?00:05
tethtibis*shrugs* if there were, best place to find them would be the manufacturer's website, or "hardware drivers" in your system menu.00:06
xubuntu911I doubt that there is a linux version00:06
xubuntu911I looked at ndiswrapper; the instructions from Xubutnu are: obtain the windows driver for your system and locate the file ath ends with .inf00:07
xubuntu911I have the driver in a .rmt file00:07
tethtibissee if you can "extract" the .ini file from the driver you downloaded.00:08
xubuntu911How would I do that? (sorry, this is my first time playing with any type of linux)00:08
tethtibisusing "file roller" or just right clicking and choosing "extract" if it gives you that option.00:08
tethtibisfind "file roller" in your system menu. I'm not sure what it would be under, perhaps accessories, or system.00:09
xubuntu911ok, no extract option00:09
xubuntu911looking up file roller00:09
tethtibisif not, download peazip, it's almost as strong as 7zip for extracting weird files.00:09
tethtibislet me find you the website for peazip.00:10
tethtibishttp://peazip.sourceforge.net/peazip-linux.html00:10
xubuntu911awesome!00:10
tethtibissomeway, you have to be able to get that .ini file. even windows uses an ini, so it has to be there. once you get that, ndis wrapper will set you up nice. :O)00:11
tethtibisget it?00:11
xubuntu911yup00:11
xubuntu911thanks so much for your help00:11
tethtibissweet. :O)00:11
tethtibisnp. :O)00:11
xubuntu911here goes nothing :)00:11
tethtibishope it works out well for you.00:11
xubuntu911thanks!00:11
xubuntu911oh wait00:11
xubuntu911one more question00:11
tethtibissure.00:11
xubuntu911this ndswrapper comes prebuilt with xubuntu?00:12
tethtibishrm, I'm not 100% on that.00:12
xubuntu911I tried to "install" it via the software center00:12
xubuntu911it wouldn't work...00:13
tethtibisI DO know that "hardware drivers" under "system" usually takes care of all my weird driver needs, so i haven't had to use ndiswrapper in ages.00:13
tethtibisopen a terminal and just type ndiswrapper, that should tell you if it's installed by default.00:13
xubuntu911ok00:13
tethtibissorry, lol I'm poking around on zorinOS right now, so I don't have a frame of reference.00:14
xubuntu911no worries :)00:14
xubuntu911not installed00:15
tethtibisthen at the terminal, try this command: sudo apt-get update00:15
tethtibisthen : sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper00:15
David-Axubuntu911: google ""Dell Latitude D610" ubuntu wireless" finds solutions that does not appear to involve windows drivers. did you try them and they failed?00:16
tethtibisthen once installed, you can google how to use it, or type :man ndiswrapper to read it's internal manual.00:16
tethtibisit's been too long since I've used ndiswrapper, so I wouldn't be able to walk you through it, sorry. :O/00:17
xubuntu911no, I didn't know that there was a site specific to my computer00:17
xubuntu911no worries00:17
xubuntu911I really appreciate your help00:17
Mahmoudtrying to install gnome 3. i hope it works we..00:17
Mahmoudll00:17
tethtibisMahmoud, I've heard the new lightdm service messes with gnome 3. you might have to install the standard xorg server.00:18
tethtibisjust a head's up. :O)00:18
Mahmoudoh00:19
Unit193Standard xorg?  LightDM is a login manager, you thinking wayland or you thinking going back to GDM?00:22
Mahmoudme? i don't really care. LightDM seems good00:23
Mahmoudbut if it causes trouble, i'll move on to GDM00:23
recon_lapxubuntu911: why are you messing with ndistwrapper?00:24
xubuntu911hmmm00:26
xubuntu911I've decided not to mess around with the ndiswrapper...I'm gonna try one of the solutions on the forums...00:26
xubuntu911if I can't get that to work, I'll go back to the ndiswrapper00:26
xubuntu911thanks for everything guys!00:26
toekeeI have to type in my windows shares address everytime I reboot, even if I save it00:30
toekeedoes that mean the "sharte" has to be recordsed in the /etc/fstab file ?00:31
toekeeshare*00:31
recon_laptoekee: if you want it accessible automatically thats where I'd put the mount command.00:33
recon_laptoekee: would depend what what type of share it is though00:34
toekeesmb://192....yadda yadda00:35
toekeeits a xp pro headless shared box00:35
toekeeseems gnome automounts00:36
recon_laptoekee: then I'm not sure, a network share is not really suitable for fstab00:37
toekeeok..then what do you think would be a decent automount approach ?00:37
toekeeThough.its not that b ig a deal to type in at the beginning of a session...I must admit00:38
toekeeHowever there is obviously a soultion00:39
toekeewhat does everyone else do...for automount of network shares ?00:40
recon_laptoekee: http://www.justlinux.com/nhf/Filesystems/Mounting_smbfs_Shares_Permanently.html00:40
recon_laptoekee: the security issues are interesting.00:40
toekeethanks recon_lap..I'll check it out00:41
xubuntu486hello01:29
AndChat|622356What is the difference between xubuntu and ubuntu?02:10
Unit193Xfce is the main thing.02:11
bazhangxfce4 / gnome  , and certain software applications02:11
AndChat|622356Is either one better for programming and music making02:11
Unit193Default config/look/applications, some think it looks  abit Gnome2, but I personally disagree.02:11
bazhang!crosspost | AndChat|62235602:12
Unit193Making music would be closer to ubuntu studio.02:12
ubottuAndChat|622356: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support.02:12
AndChat|622356Ok thanks02:12
Unit193!ubuntustudio02:12
ubottuUbuntuStudio is a collection of packages for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best Audio/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories. For more info and install instructions, join #ubuntustudio or see http://ubuntustudio.org02:12
AndChat|622356Ill look up ubuntustudio02:13
pimperlehi08:24
pimperlefrom time to time mynotebook will not wakeup from suspend to ram. Right now it happend again but I have not idea how to debug it? I can still ping it, but SSH doesn't work (nmap says the port is open though) and the screen is black / it doesn't react to keyboard input.08:26
pimperlewhere should i start looking for a solution?08:26
well_laid_lawnpimperle: what's the laptop model?08:30
pimperlethinkpad t40008:31
pimperlewhile it still responds to icmp packets, even the sysrq key doesnt seem to work08:31
well_laid_lawnpimperle:  seems you might have this problem08:35
well_laid_lawnI ended up there from the archlinux wiki about the t40008:35
pimperlelink08:35
pimperle?08:35
well_laid_lawnhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6105510&postcount=1208:36
well_laid_lawnoops ;)08:36
pimperlethx ;)08:36
pimperlethe problem happens only sometimes, and till now i was convinced, that it only happens if it goes into suspend AND is low on battery. however this time it happend while being placed in the dock08:37
pimperlewell_laid_lawn: i will try this, however as it doesn't always happen it will take some time to verify success08:39
pimperleand idea how to shutdown the system from its current state?08:39
well_laid_lawnpimperle: you an only try08:40
well_laid_lawnI don't think the arch wiki would be left as is if it was wrong08:40
well_laid_lawn https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lenovo_ThinkPad_T400#SUSPEND-RESUME08:41
pimperlethx for the help08:41
well_laid_lawncheers08:41
pimperlesysrq should work by holding down fn+alt+print/sysrq and then hitting a char-key?08:43
well_laid_lawnI know nothing about that...08:44
well_laid_lawnhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key08:45
pimperlei already read through the german version of the page :)08:45
pimperlewikipedia to the rescue08:45
well_laid_lawnsays "The key combination consists of Alt, SysRq and another key, which controls the command issued "08:46
pimperleyes, "hold 'Alt', hold 'Fn', hold 'SysRq', release 'Fn', press key."08:47
pimperleas if it could be any more complicated :)08:47
pimperlei gave up and cold rebooted the system08:47
pimperlenow i'll apply the fix and will try how sysrq works and take a huge note for the next time to try :)08:48
well_laid_lawnluck :)08:52
pimperleok, it works by holding down alt, then hitting print/sysrq (and releasing it, still holding alt) then while holding alt hitting (multiple keys) to perform actions08:53
frojndhi there10:23
frojndI've installed xubuntu alternate on my gf's laptop and I have a few problems10:23
frojndFirst one and most obvious is when watching DVDrip in fullscreen mode I notice flickering10:24
frojndSecond when watching full hd movies .mov format from my camera is like watching slow motion effect10:24
frojndThis is on acer aspire one 722 which has open source radeon drivers10:25
frojnd00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Wrestler [Radeon HD 6290]10:25
pimperlefrojnd: i have no idea what might cause this for you, but you could try the fglrx binary driver10:25
andrew_i need some help enabling hardware acceleration on my powerbook g410:25
andrew_could anyone be so kind?10:26
frojndpimperle: do I need to remove open source drivers before I install propriatery ones?10:26
frojndI personally like open source drivers better and other have no such problems with that particular graphic chip10:26
pimperlei would expect installation of the binary driver to enable it as well10:27
pimperlei also like free drivers better, but i noticed that power consumption drops significantly on my notebook using the fglrx driver10:27
frojndpimperle: I'll just click on install propriatery driver10:27
pimperlesi10:28
frojndpimperle: which one should I install? I have 2 options for amd: ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver (post release updates) and without post release updates10:29
pimperlei chose the one with updates. the other one will stay the same over time10:29
frojndpimperle: will I have to uninstall or purge open source drivers? Or will ubuntu replace and configure it automatically so there will be no conflicts?10:31
pimperleautomatic install should handle it10:31
pimperle(read: I'd try it, but i dont know)10:32
pimperle:)10:32
frojndok let see what happens.  :) ok ok..10:32
frojndI think there are some problems with suspend to ram with propriatery drivers. Well actually when u try to wake the notebook up...10:32
frojndhaven't been up to date latelly..10:32
andrew_im not even sure where to begin really. i was trying to follow the guide at:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ but i cant seem to get it to work10:33
pimperleyes, i have had some of them as well10:33
frojndHow did you solve it?10:33
pimperlesry, andrew_. i have no experiance with powerpcs10:33
pimperlei havent yet10:33
frojndand this is obivous amd issue10:33
andrew_its cool10:34
pimperlewe just discussed it here earlier and someone suggested this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lenovo_ThinkPad_T400#SUSPEND-RESUME10:34
pimperlebut it only happens from time to time10:34
frojndhehe10:35
frojndSoorry, installation of this drivers failed. Please have a look at jockey.log10:36
frojndw00t :P10:36
pimperleouch10:36
frojndthis is the log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1119200/10:37
frojndI have a bunck failed/error lines10:39
frojndcould not find module ...10:39
pimperlei have no idea then :(10:39
frojndhttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1866589.html10:40
frojndmaybe this will help :p10:40
frojndhave to restart for some reason first10:41
frojndmeh, I guess kernel is the updated package10:42
frojndHi there :)10:59
frojndagain..10:59
frojndI've successfully installed proprietery drivers10:59
frojnd.mov files plays now more smoothly but I still see flickering :o11:05
frojndAnd I still see flickering in .avi files (dvdrip and stuff...)11:08
frojndHi hi :)11:11
frojndI've installed jupiter for power performance11:15
frojndI've also installed lm-sensors11:15
frojndwhen I do sensors I see temperature of the cpu cores11:15
frojndyet in juputer it shows 0 °C11:15
frojndIt's also grayed11:15
Toby24Hi #xubuntu12:22
Toby24Short question, what is the prefered way to make an bootable usb stick? Unetbootin?12:23
baizonhad problems with that, using linuxliveusb12:23
Toby24ok12:24
Toby24Hm i have a problem with my display brightness. I cant adjust them12:26
Toby24I have a samsung rv520 with an GT520m and activated nvidia drivers12:26
Toby24but theres no way to adjust the brightness12:26
baizonToby24: have you tried to add Option “RegistryDwords” “EnableBrightnessControl=1″ to your xorg.conf file?12:28
baizonmore here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=146625012:29
Toby24baizon: yes i do that and i have add acpi_backlight=vendor to my grub boot cfg12:29
baizonsorry cant help :( dont have a nvidia card12:36
frojndHi there.13:22
frojnd:) again13:22
frojndOne problem. When I click lock screen. And then try to unlock it first I see login screen, where I put in password, and then I see xscreenlock13:22
frojndso twice time for unlock13:23
frojndAny ideas why is that?13:25
frojndI think this is not normal?13:25
GridCubefrojnd, lightdm login screen?13:38
TImewarperhello14:14
TImewarperi would like to know if updating my system while the time is 3 hours off might cause any problems? Like with timestamps etc14:14
TImewarper(notice this is the first time i installed the system when i havent adjusted the clock)14:14
TImewarperikonia, fuck you14:15
xubuntu481Hello, I am having a problem with installing Xubuntu (or really any linux distro). After I start up the CD the first thing that pops up is a broken screen (looks like a corrupted image).15:29
xubuntu481Then my monitor seems to detect nothing and I have to restart.15:29
holsteinxubuntu481: can try hittin shift, the first time you see something other than bios... just tap shift15:30
xubuntu481I'm not sure, but I think it's the hardware on my machine, I'm using a Radeon HD 6790 and and AMD FX 410015:30
xubuntu481Alright, I'll try that next time.15:30
holsteinyou should see a menu with F6 at the bottom.. you want to try "nomodeset" and whatever else under the F6 menu15:30
holsteinxubuntu481: you can always try a puppy linux live CD, use that nice wizard for the graphics, then grab the xorg.conf from there15:31
holsteinxubuntu481: you might want to consider using the vesa driver... i have grabbed the xorg.conf from puppy, insatalled ubuntu with the alternate CD, and put the xorg.conf in place15:32
holsteinxubuntu481: if you are new, you might want to just try other hardware15:32
xubuntu481Hmm? This is my only computer, lol. I'll try everything else first.15:32
holsteinthough, im 98% sure its a graphics card driver support issue15:32
xubuntu481So I could use the alternate CD, then get xorg.conf?15:33
holsteinxubuntu481: maybe... thats one way.. i would try forcing vesa15:34
holsteinits challening, becuase its not in front of me, so i dont know what i would do15:34
xubuntu481Is that in the shift, then F6 menu or in the alternate?15:34
holsteinxubuntu481: should be in the live one that i assume you have now15:35
xubuntu481Ok, so boot up desktop, shift, F6, select Vesa and continue installing?15:35
holsteinxubuntu481: f6, and use "nomodeset"15:36
xubuntu481Ah, then find the vesa driver after installing the OS?15:36
holsteinxubuntu481: i would want to see the desktop live before installing15:36
holsteinxubuntu481: you wont need to find the vesa driver15:36
xubuntu481Ok, I'll try nomodeset next time.15:37
holsteinnomodeset will either get you to the desktop, or not, and then you can choose to install, or try something else15:37
xubuntu481If I can't get to the desktop, should I use the alternate installer?15:37
holsteinxubuntu481: its up to you.. you'll need to decide how you'd like to proceed15:37
holsteinthe alternate installer will install xubuntu, which will likely not be supporting your grphics15:38
xubuntu481Oh, ok15:38
xubuntu481Alright, I'll just try the whole shift, F6, nomodeset thing and see what happens.15:39
holsteinyou can then go to the CLI and install the proprietary driver, or set an xorg15:39
holsteini typically try everything to get to a live desktop, then go from there15:39
holsteingtg.. good luck15:39
xubuntu481Thanks for the help!15:39
mneptokholstein: the -alternate image is just a text mode installer with no Live session capabilities and additional install options (e.g. LVM and dm-crypt)15:42
mneptokerrr15:42
mneptokxubuntu481: ^^^^15:42
xubuntu336hello world15:45
hystryfehi. does anyone have experience with vsftpd and ftps?16:16
mneptokhystryfe: why those and not ssh/sftp?16:28
mneptokhystryfe: you need anonymous access?16:29
hystryfemneptok, actually no, but i'm willing to use sftp i just didn't want anyone having shell access16:29
hystryfei can get the virtual user i made to connect, but then chroot jail doesn't work lol16:30
hystryferight now i'm trying to connect with filezilla and i get "an unexpected TLS packet was received" and when someone using windows+filezilla on the LAN connects they get "a record packet with illegal version was received"16:32
mneptokhystryfe: use "sudo chsh" to change each $USER to use /usr/lib/sftp-server as their login shell. that should allow sftp with no actual SSH.16:33
mneptokhystryfe: i have not done this for quite a few releases.16:33
mneptokYMMV16:33
mneptokO:)16:33
hystryfeheh16:33
mneptokstill easier than an ftpd16:33
hystryfeyeah. i'm pretty sure it's a permission issue somewhere, and each and every configuration file i have found is unique16:34
mneptokOK, the sftp-server lib is not in /etc/shells on 12.0416:35
mneptokthat will require tweaking16:35
hystryfewell i'm already been tweaking and i've gotten this far. i think this is a TLS issue at this point because the vsftpd.log says OK LOGIN16:36
mneptokhttp://www.debian-administration.org/articles/9416:38
mneptokwow. my work actually reflects best practices.16:39
mneptokthis may be a good monday.16:39
hystryfeis sftp something that is running?16:39
hystryfehaha. how so?16:40
hystryfemneptok i fixed it :D17:08
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hystryfehttp://ramblings.linkerror.com/?p=45 so i did that, and i had to make a writeable folder in the local_root directory17:13
green_meephi, I was wondering if anybody could help me out with getting grub to support a dual boot set up17:17
xubuntu506hello17:28
GridCubehi17:29
xubuntu506i would like to ask a question i anyone can help17:29
xubuntu506i have installed ubuntu hardy but its not supported anymore17:30
GridCubemmhm17:30
Mathsterkxubuntu506: why did you install that?17:30
xubuntu506i'd like to assk if its possible to overide that17:30
xubuntu506tecnical reason...drivers17:31
xubuntu506on newer version my video driver does not work17:31
xubuntu506so i plan to use older version with proprietary driver17:32
xubuntu506but my problem now is software17:32
xubuntu506i am newbie with linux..but once before i managed to make it work17:33
Dicewhat driver? you're gonna have tons of problems and we don't have support for you here17:33
GridCubexubuntu506, you should try a modern os with new drivers17:33
xubuntu506ati x127017:33
xubuntu506i tried but doesn't work17:33
xubuntu506..the screen gets all messy17:34
GridCubexubuntu506, try vesa instead of xorg17:35
xubuntu506...i tried17:38
xubuntu506is it possible manually to install programms?17:39
xubuntu506ie new firefox?17:39
* genii-around sips his coffee and thinks about firefox-trunk17:50
xubuntu408buona sera qualcun parla italiano?20:49
v1adimirxubuntunewb2: there may be #ubuntu-it or something similar?..20:51
Mathsterkv1adimir: (s)he parted20:51
v1adimirmeh, sry (turned off)20:52
Mathsterk:P20:52
v1adimir:D20:52
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travis-5need help here22:10
travis-5hi #ubuntu!22:10
The_Cogtravis-5: Fire away22:10
travis-5oh shit, I joined xubu instead of ubu!22:10
travis-5my trouble is with ubuntu22:10
travis-5so I guess I shall go to the other channel, right?22:11
The_Cogtravis-5: If it's not gui specific it's worth a try here22:11
travis-5oohh ok, nice to here22:11
travis-5so22:11
travis-5i'm i trouble with dvds burning :S22:12
travis-5(and, secondarly, with a pocket video projector, we can talk about it later)22:12
travis-5my issue is... what program could I use?? Brasero is destroying my dvd compilation disk by disk :D22:13
travis-5I heard about some "k3b" and some "gnomebaker"22:13
The_CogWhat kind of trouble? I may not be able to help though - I use xfburn (xubuntu channel here) but have only done CDs with it so far.22:13
travis-5oohh, I see...22:13
The_CogI used to have trouble with Brasero - less so with gnomebaker, but if you're having trouble I would always go for k3b22:14
travis-5oh, alright22:14
travis-5can you tell me what's the secret of this so-called k3b? Is it an old burning software? And its name sounds too me a bit scary... I mean, I'm not quite a master with cmd line yet22:15
The_Cogk3b is a kubuntu (KDE) based app so installing it will pull in a lot of extra GUI libraries. However, they only get loaded when you start k3b so they're normally only a drag on disk space.22:15
travis-5(but I have ambitious objectives about that ;))22:15
travis-5drag = ???22:15
The_Cogk3b has been around for years, and was reliable long before the others were even reasonably usable. So it would always be my last resort.22:16
travis-5and that's fine to hear from you22:17
The_Cogdrag as in the libraries will fill a good few megs of disk space. Not a real problem normally.22:17
travis-5uhm22:18
travis-5it's just a little disturbing, I think.22:18
travis-5the idea that you waste some disk space22:18
travis-5but, if that's a solution, I'll go for it!22:18
The_Cogdisturbing how? Unless you start k3b, the libraries will just sit on disk, not in memory. Not a problem unless disk space is short.22:19
recon_lapmy dvd burner died a long time ago :)22:20
travis-5yes, that's my case these times..22:20
travis-5sorry for you, recon22:20
recon_laplong live flash drives :)22:21
travis-5hahaha22:21
travis-5imma firin my BURNING laaaza my friends22:21
travis-5and finally going to try k3b22:22
xubuntu989i need help23:13
xubuntu989my mic in the netbook too low23:13
xubuntu989asus eepc 1015px23:13
xubuntu989any fix?23:13

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