[02:51] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1031165] plasma-widget-kimpanel-backend-ibus missing @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1031165 (by Scott Kitterman)
[02:53] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1031167] installation of libqt4-gui fails with unmet dependencies @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1031167 (by Stephan Fabel)
[07:23] <vHanda> ScottK: you don't need need a new Soprano for 4.8.5
[07:23] <vHanda> I specially put some patches in 4.8.5 which make it work with old Soprano
[07:24] <vHanda> anyway, KDE 4.9 should be out tomorrow :D
[08:15] <Riddell> vHanda: that's not what the cmake tests say
[08:16] <Riddell> 4.8.5 is a different use case than 4.9 (stable release update vs latest release, different users prefer one over the other)
[08:51] <shadeslayer> hah
[08:51] <shadeslayer> Alot of the documentation on ISO builds is on a sekrit google doc
[08:52] <shadeslayer> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RPPF14h1Sw2gQjGTuZjUIlNHnGrafS8ekhFjJM9MT00/edit?pli=1#
[08:52] <shadeslayer> question, why does ship-live not depend on ship and only depends on live? does live automagically pull in ship?
[08:53] <shadeslayer> here : http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/kubuntu.quantal/view/head:/STRUCTURE
[08:53] <shadeslayer> ( or does the include at the top do this )
[08:54] <debfx> ship is the alternate image
[08:54] <Riddell> yep
[08:54] <shadeslayer> oh ... ok
[08:55] <shadeslayer> I think I get the whole picture now :P
[08:56] <shadeslayer> ( albeit it's quite confusing when you first start looking at it )
[08:56] <Riddell> who made that google doc?
[08:58] <shadeslayer> no idea
[08:58] <shadeslayer> I just found it after alot of googling
[08:59] <shadeslayer> Riddell: Quintasan: do you use a sdcard to boot stuff on your dev boards? IO performance is absolute shit for my sdcard
[09:00] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yes I do and current versions of ubuntu are "pre-installed" images from those cards but they've changed to more normal install images for 12.10
[09:00] <Riddell> so you install them on a usb drive
[09:00] <Riddell> for perforance reasons
[09:00] <shadeslayer> quite rightly so
[09:00] <shadeslayer> most of the bottleneck on the RasPi is IO ( and not memory or CPU power )
[09:00] <Riddell> well it means I have to keep swapping the keyboard and mouse since I only have two usb sockets on the pandaboard
[09:01] <shadeslayer> get a usb hub? :P
[09:01] <Riddell> that would be a sensible answer
[09:01]  * shadeslayer will try and install the rootfs on his external hdd later in the evening today
[09:02] <Riddell> I'm surprised usb is faster than SD though
[09:02] <Riddell> I guess the advantage of SD is just simplicity of controller
[09:02] <shadeslayer> yeah, then again, I guess it depends on whats the class of the SD card
[09:02] <shadeslayer> Farnell probably gave me a class 4 sd card >.>
[09:05] <shadeslayer> yep, Class 4
[09:07] <Riddell> shadeslayer: your electricity was on the news last night, all solved?
[09:07] <shadeslayer> hah, nope
[09:08] <shadeslayer> I barely have enough electricity, just manage to keep my router up
[09:08] <shadeslayer> thank god it's raining, would be ETOOHOT to work otherwise
[09:09] <shadeslayer> so I just shut down everything else, and try and keep the router running 24x7
[09:10] <Riddell> ..but your computer is up
[09:12] <shadeslayer> well yeah, the power comes on intermittently, and usually there's power from 3AM in the morning to 8 AM
[09:12] <Riddell> vHanda: aww thing.h got removed, that was my favourite header!
[09:13] <shadeslayer> just enough to keep my laptop running :)
[09:13] <shadeslayer> no power for the past 4 hours though :P
[09:13] <Riddell> erk
[09:14] <shadeslayer> and at times plasma goes mental and says that I have 0% battery
[09:14] <Riddell> the battery applet seems a bit buggy in 4.9
[09:15] <Riddell> it doesn't update often
[09:15] <shadeslayer> well .. they say it was fixed, works in neon, lets see what happens in the release packages
[09:15] <Riddell> and just now it seems to be in with the Hide Icons section for me
[09:15] <shadeslayer> Riddell: AC adapter plugged in?
[09:16] <shadeslayer> it tries to be smart and hides itself when you've plugged in the adapter
[09:16] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yes
[09:16] <shadeslayer> ( which makes sense imho )
[09:16] <Riddell> hum that's just confusing
[09:16] <shadeslayer> Riddell: unplug and it'll appear magically
[09:16] <Riddell> right enough
[10:59] <apachelogger> Riddell: it only appears when there is something that might require your attention
[10:59] <apachelogger> now since being plugged in is the best state it does not require your attention
[10:59] <apachelogger> not being plugged in or for example not being able to access a battery state would though
[11:13] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Yeah I use SD card
[11:15] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: also, I have started uploading ktp 0.4.1 to quantal and backporting to precise
[11:25] <Riddell> Quintasan: great thanks
[11:26] <Quintasan> Riddell: Well it's just internal and accounts-kcm
[11:26] <Quintasan> My internet died for some reason
[12:16] <jtechidna> shadeslayer: so I hear half of India is without electricity?
[12:17] <Riddell> jtechidna: careful, your highlight will use up his battery!
[12:17] <jtechidna> !
[12:17] <jtechidna> anyway, good luck w/ that whole situation
[12:18] <Quintasan> lol
[12:19] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1031167] installation of libqt4-gui fails with unmet dependencies @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1031167 (by Stephan Fabel)
[13:10] <shadeslayer> jtechidna: more or less
[13:10] <shadeslayer> The electricity just came back, a 6 hour powercut I think
[13:10]  * shadeslayer is catching up on what happened as well since he couldn't watch the news
[13:11] <shadeslayer> Riddell: oh btw, "<Riddell> ..but your computer is up" , we have power backup systems in every house, mine usually lasts about 2-3 hours
[13:26] <shadeslayer> "BJP spokesperson Prakash Javadekar said this is total failure of the UPA government in the power sector, which is manifested in the total blackout of the two days and the grid failure." << Typical Indian politicians blaming each other :P
[13:28] <jtechidna> s/Indian politicians/politicians
[13:28] <jtechidna> :P
[13:34] <ScottK> vHanda: 4.8.5 has set"(SOPRANO_MIN_VERSION "2.7.56")" and we have 2.7.5.  That's a problem.
[13:42] <shadeslayer> gtg
[13:42] <shadeslayer> more power outage
[13:42] <shadeslayer> byeee
[13:53] <dantti> my locales got screwed in 12.04 for some reason LANG=pt_BR (no UTF8 here), locale gen prints those missing messages, I recall dpkg-reconfigure locale but ubuntu doesn't have, google inst't helping any tips?
[13:58] <Quintasan> jtechidna: How do I insert newline in sed?
[14:00] <jtechidna> uh
[14:00] <jtechidna> \n?
[14:00] <Quintasan> bzzzz
[14:00] <Quintasan> doesn't work
[14:01] <jtechidna> I found this magic on stackoverflow to replace the newlines in a file with a space: sed ':a;N;$!ba;s/\n/ /g'
[14:02] <jtechidna> you could also do: tr '\n' ' ' < input
[14:02] <Quintasan> I want to change
[14:02] <Quintasan> Maintainer: Debian KDE Extras Team <pkg-kde-extras@lists.alioth.debian.org>
[14:03] <Quintasan> Maintainer: Kubuntu Developers <kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com>
[14:03] <Quintasan> XSBC-Original-Maintainer: Debian KDE Extras Team <pkg-kde-extras@lists.alioth.debian.org>
[14:03] <Quintasan> into that
[14:03] <Quintasan> WHY THE HELL IS SHIFT BACKSPACE BOUND TO RESTART X
[14:04] <jtechidna> you could run update-maintainer, and then modify the maintainer line to be Kubuntu Developers
[14:07] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: ^ - we are dumb
[14:09] <Quintasan> meh that's hardly a solution
[14:09] <Quintasan> still requires sed magic
[14:11] <jtechidna> you could fork update-maintainer :P
[14:11] <yofel> what sed command did you run where \n didn't work?
[14:11] <debfx> yes, and please put the result into kubuntu-dev-tools
[14:16] <Quintasan> yo
[14:16] <Quintasan> yofel: 
[14:16] <Quintasan> sed s/Maintainer\:\ Debian\ KDE\ Extras\ Team\ \<pkg\-kde\-extras\@lists\.alioth\.debian\.org\>/Maintainer\:\ Kubuntu\ Developers\ \<kubuntu\-devel\@lists\.ubuntu\.com\>\nXSBC\-Original\-Maintainer\:\ Debian\ KDE\ Extras\ Team\ \<pkg\-kde\-extras\@lists\.alioth\.debian\.org\>/ control
[14:16] <Quintasan> sup
[14:17] <Quintasan> NVM
[14:17] <Quintasan> I'M SO DUMB
[14:17] <Quintasan> \\n worked
[14:17] <yofel> uh... quotes would probably have worked too...
[14:17] <Quintasan> Best one-liner ever
[14:18] <Quintasan> shadeslayer is going to love this
[14:43] <Riddell> dantti: whyever don't you use utf-8?  I don't think we support non-utf-8 locales
[14:44] <dantti> Riddell: no the problem I want to use UTF-8, but I can't find where this thing is (not) comming from
[14:44] <dantti> Riddell: my other machine got the same problem after the update
[14:45] <Riddell> dantti: tried running language-selector-kde ?
[14:46] <dantti> no, will that help console logins? I even created a new user but it also suffers from the same issue, I greped all my /etc but I can't find what's wrong..
[14:49] <Riddell> dantti: it will set the system local eyes
[14:49] <Riddell> yes
[14:51] <dantti> Riddell: it still didn't work :/
[14:51] <dantti> I change to english it still just says LANG="pt_BR"
[14:52] <dantti> quite odd
[14:52] <vHanda> Riddell: how do I get a backtrace out from this - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-runtime/+bug/980110 ?
[14:55] <yofel> vHanda: the backtrace is the same as on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-runtime/+bug/913024
[14:55] <vHanda> no they are totally different components, and that back trace doesn't have debugging symbols
[14:55] <vHanda> oh well
[14:56] <yofel> true, the retracer messed up then :(
[15:01] <Quintasan> yofel: http://wklej.org/id/801247
[15:01] <Quintasan> Any ideas what's going on?
[15:02] <Quintasan> yofel: nvm
[15:02] <Quintasan> once again I'm being dumb
[15:03] <dantti> Riddell: btw do you know who should I poke about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1003090 ?
[15:09] <Riddell> dantti: the kernel team I think https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/
[15:10] <dantti> k, it's been a while with no activity...
[15:17] <apol> while working in muon I've found some syntactic errors in some app-install/desktop/*desktop files
[15:17] <apol> do you think we can fix those?
[15:17] <apol> http://paste.opensuse.org/60421562 << example
[15:18] <Riddell> apol: what's the error?
[15:18] <apol> Riddell: Categories has : instead of =
[15:20] <Riddell> apol: those files come from the pakcages
[15:20] <Riddell> so it's probably an error in the package
[15:20] <apol> i know :)
[15:21] <Quintasan> Riddell: Welp, took some time but with base of shadeslayer's script we have some sort of automatization for ktp
[15:21] <Riddell> apol: yes it is, so patches to the packages and bugs to debian or ubuntu or upstream as approprirate welcome
[15:21] <Riddell> Quintasan: oh cool
[15:21] <apol> Riddell: well, where do I report it?
[15:22] <Riddell> apol: depends on the package, spout has a .desktop file added by the debian packager so report to debian bugs
[15:22] <Riddell> and give a patch to me or anyone in ubuntu if you want it fixed here quickly
[15:22] <Riddell> s/patch/debdiff/
[15:22] <kubotu> Riddell meant: "and give a debdiff to me or anyone in ubuntu if you want it fixed here quickly"
[15:23] <apol> well, that's probably the reason why it's broken :S
[16:03] <jjesse> hrmm it looks like somehow my membership in kubuntu members and ubuntu members has slipped
[16:03] <jjesse> should i have had a notification (email) about this?
[16:04] <jjesse> cause i don't have one in gmail :(
[16:04] <jjesse> how do i get reactivated?
[16:18] <Riddell> jjesse: yes you'd have got an e-mail a week before it changed and on the day i think
[16:42] <jjesse> Riddell, i did a search through GMAIL and nothing showed up
[16:44] <jjesse> the only email i have w/ member in it is that my cloak has been deactivated
[16:53] <jjesse> do i need to reapply at th next meeting?
[17:09] <Riddell> jjesse: no I shouldn't think so, I'll just check with others
[17:10] <jjesse> Riddell, ok, i would be more than willing to go through it again
[17:10] <mgraesslin> hi all
[17:10] <mgraesslin> I have a little Kubuntu problem :-)
[17:11] <mgraesslin> it is called https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=kwin-intel
[17:12] <mgraesslin> the problem was present in 11.04 went away in 11.10 and reappeared in 12.04
[17:12] <mgraesslin> in the meantime we adjusted the default settings so that the Intel driver does not crash
[17:12] <mgraesslin> the important part is that it only crashes in Ubuntu
[17:12] <mgraesslin> which brings me to the thought: would you accept a patch to remove the functionality in question just in Kubuntu?
[17:13] <Riddell> mm
[17:13] <Riddell> mgraesslin: if that's what it takes then yeah
[17:13] <Riddell> I'll make a note to bring it up with the x people too
[17:13] <mgraesslin> wow I found one for Fedora
[17:37] <Riddell> jjesse: "Jonathan Jesse2006-04-13 Expired on 2011-11-21"
[17:37] <Riddell> so you dropped off a while ago
[17:37] <jjesse> yeah a long time agO :)
[17:38] <jjesse> but my mask ended today on IRC so that's what prompted this :)
[18:52] <Quintasan> This shadeslayer
[18:53] <Quintasan> Not keeping ktp ppa in order
[18:53] <Quintasan> :P
[18:57] <Quintasan> Riddell: Any ideas if Delete package in PPA options purges everything related to that package?
[19:20] <Quintasan> THIS SHADESLAYER
[19:26] <yofel> Quintasan: it should delete anything related to it - except the history
[19:26] <Quintasan> yofel: Oh great. You are here
[19:33] <Quintasan> yofel: http://paste.kde.org/526208/
[19:33] <Quintasan> Does this looks sane?
[19:33] <Quintasan> I mean are there any errors in th elif part
[19:34] <Quintasan> not sure if kate section collapsing is wrong or I'm dumb
[19:35]  * Quintasan curses shadeslayer for creating such an inefficient script
[19:36] <Quintasan> Why put things for quantal into ppa when we can upload it to universe now
[19:36] <ScottK> shhhhh.  He's a professional.
[19:36] <ScottK> Definitely.
[19:36] <Quintasan> I have no idea if this script works but I crafted the theory in 5 minutes so it has to work
[19:45] <Quintasan> Gentleman. My theorycrafting skill has been upgraded.
[19:47] <yofel> looks sane, except line 81
[19:50] <Quintasan> HELL I'M A GENIOUS
[19:50] <Quintasan> yofel: I fixed it and added few features
[19:51] <Quintasan> yofel: We can split half of shadeslayer's salary if that's okay with you
[19:51] <Quintasan> I get quater for making it and you get quater for checking it
[19:51] <yofel> intentional or accidental features? (and sure :P)
[19:53] <Quintasan> HUHEUEHUEHEUHEUEHEUHEUEHUEHUEHEHUHEUEHEU
[19:53] <Quintasan> Riddell: Expect blazing fast releases of ktp now
[19:54] <ScottK> Quintasan: Genious at work: http://abstrusegoose.com/483
[19:55] <Quintasan> ScottK: Ha! I use bash, I don't have to care about memory allocation now :P
[19:55] <yofel> hehe
[19:55] <Quintasan> ScottK: Be sure to send me that when I start fixing something major :P
[19:56] <ScottK> ;-)
[19:57] <Quintasan> If only I could automatize checking patch sanity
[20:00] <Quintasan> yofel: I find it funny how shadeslayer links to changes file, that kind of implies he uploads without test building ;)
[20:01] <yofel> well, that's his purpose for the PPA I guess
[20:01] <Quintasan> Hm really? I always testbuild
[20:01] <Quintasan> God knows why
[20:01] <jocarter> heh
[20:01] <Quintasan> Maybe I like seeing the text fly.
[20:02] <yofel> heh, +1
[20:07] <ScottK> For Debian you can't avoid test building since you upload source + binary.
[20:15] <Quintasan> yofel: Well there is some sort of magic going on I can't exactly pinpoint but the target release in debian/changelog doesn't really match up with what I want to do
[20:15] <Quintasan> I change it manually for time being
[20:16] <yofel> what's it being set to?
[20:17] <yofel> and where are you even setting that?
[20:17] <Quintasan> [telepathy-kde]% ./update-ktp.sh 0.4.1 devel    (quintasan@nightwalker:..ging/telepathy-kde)
[20:17] <Quintasan> Should set it to quantal
[20:18] <Quintasan> zzzz
[20:18] <Quintasan> download faster
[20:18] <yofel> if it's set to UNRELEASED that's a change in dch for quantal
[20:18] <yofel> which I guess uupdate uses
[20:18] <Quintasan> it's set to precise T_T
[20:18] <Quintasan> hmm
[20:18] <Quintasan> wait
[20:19] <Quintasan> I just need to switch the logic
[20:19] <yofel> and you're running quantal?
[20:19] <Quintasan> no
[20:19] <Quintasan> I'm running precise
[20:19] <yofel> well, then you'll have to force that yourself
[20:19] <Quintasan> I don't build stuff in vm
[20:19] <Quintasan> I'll just switch the logic
[20:19] <Quintasan> i.e swap precise for quantal in the devel if
[20:21] <Quintasan> now that should work
[20:23] <Quintasan> YES
[20:23] <Quintasan> YES
[20:23] <Quintasan> YES
[20:23] <Quintasan> IT'S ALIVE
[20:27] <Quintasan> ScottK: Didn't we get Elections done?
[20:28] <yofel> elections?
[20:28] <ScottK> We did.
[20:29] <Quintasan> Why the hell it's still in #kubuntu topic?
[20:30] <Quintasan> Do we have someone who can remove it?
[20:32] <ScottK> No idea.
[20:32] <ScottK> I imagine anyone on the council can, but I've no idea how.
[20:32] <ScottK> Riddell: ^^^
[20:41] <Quintasan> ScottK: Thanks for getting that sorted out
[20:41] <ScottK> Did he fix it?
[20:41]  * ScottK doesn't know.
[20:41] <Quintasan> genii-around did
[20:41] <Quintasan> I thought you asked him :P
[20:42] <ScottK> Nope, but I guess he was watching.
[20:42]  * genii-around sips his coffee 
[20:46] <jocarter> ScottK: are you likely to go to the next UDS?
[20:46] <ScottK> jocarter: I'm considering it.
[20:47] <ScottK> At least it's somewhere interesting that I've never been to before.
[20:48] <jocarter> cool
[20:48] <Quintasan> ScottK: Do you know if we are going to keep libreoffice-kde around?
[20:49] <ScottK> I would assume so, but I don't know.
[20:49] <Quintasan> Hmm, okay
[20:50] <ScottK> It's upstream now, so I don't know why it wouldn't continue to be shipped.
[20:50] <Quintasan> oooh
[20:50] <Quintasan> it went upstream?
[20:51] <ScottK> Yeah, since a long time.
[20:51] <Quintasan> I remember someone saying it's too buggy and we don't have the workforce to maintain it
[20:51] <ScottK> I think you're thinking for firefox.
[20:51] <Quintasan> Maybe*
[20:51] <ScottK> Yes.  that was firefox
[20:51] <ScottK> Not so much buggy as it touched code that changed a lot so it had to be redone for every firefox release.
[20:51] <ScottK> Huge work.
[20:52] <Quintasan> ScottK: Well currently someone in #kubuntu can't read some of dialogues and removing libreoffice-kde fixed some of the things but he is still unable to read quotations
[20:53] <ScottK> Dunno.
[20:53] <Quintasan> ScottK: It looks like this http://i.imgur.com/9W9Q3.jpg
[20:53] <Quintasan> Scary stuff
[20:53] <ScottK> Scary they've got unapplied security updates.
[20:54] <Quintasan> lol
[20:55] <ScottK> The garbage on the screen looks to me like video driver stuff, but I dunno.
[20:55] <Quintasan> Yeah I assumed the same but I remembered this (apparent) kde libreoffice intergration being broken and I was half right
[20:56] <ScottK> It does have it's issues, but I don't think that's one of them.
[21:21] <Quintasan> fml
[21:21] <Quintasan> still doesn't get proper target distro
[21:22] <Quintasan> yofel: How do I enforce certain distro version for uupdate
[21:22] <yofel> no idea, I see no option to do so
[21:23] <Quintasan> Hell
[21:23] <Riddell> Quintasan: in changelog?
[21:23] <Quintasan> I have no idea why running the script over with different option doesn't overwrite some stuff
[21:23] <Quintasan> Riddell: Yeah, I'm trying to automate the creation of files for backporting now
[21:24] <Quintasan> When I create the dsc and changes for the first time it sets the target distro as precise because that's what I'm running here
[21:24] <Riddell> try adding a -D precise?  (just guessing that it gets passed to dch)
[21:24] <Quintasan> if I want the dsc to be for quantal then I change precise to quantal using sid
[21:24] <ScottK> s/sid/sed
[21:24] <ScottK> somewhat ironically.
[21:25] <Quintasan> Then I do a second run this time with backport as parameter which should replace quantal with precise but it doesn't for some reason
[21:25] <Quintasan> Here is the script
[21:25] <Quintasan> http://paste.kde.org/526226
[21:26] <Quintasan> line 51 does the precise -> quantal swap
[21:27] <Quintasan> and line 77 should swap quantal for precise
[21:27] <Quintasan> but it doesnt
[21:27] <yofel> looks like a rather hazardous line
[21:27] <yofel> ah no, /g is missing
[21:27] <Quintasan> yofel: It swaps the first occurence
[21:27] <Quintasan> which is likely the newest changelog entry
[21:28] <yofel> should be
[21:29] <Riddell> that'll swap it for all lines
[21:29] <Quintasan> Riddell: With the /g at the end you mean? We don't want that
[21:30] <Riddell> regardless
[21:30] <yofel> oh, it does
[21:31] <yofel> stupid sed
[21:31] <Riddell> sed takes a command which it applies to all lines in the file
[21:31] <Riddell> g is about occurances within a line
[21:31] <Quintasan> It swaps all occurences?
[21:31] <Quintasan> so the second run will swap precise1 into quantal1?
[21:31] <Quintasan> derp
[21:32] <Quintasan> 0.4.1-0ubuntu1~ppa1~precise1~ppa1~precise1~ppa1~precise1
[21:32] <Quintasan> holy crap
[21:32] <Riddell> I add the version number as part of the sed pattern when switching only the first line
[21:32] <yofel> lol
[21:32] <Quintasan> what did just happen
[21:33] <Quintasan> How do I handle this?
[21:35] <Quintasan> Riddell, yofel: Well, I could run the script once, testbuild and upload then delete and rerun it with the other parameter
[21:36] <Quintasan> but generating the files and testbuilding and uploading at once is generally better
[21:39] <Riddell> I'm not sure I understand the problem
[21:40] <Riddell> !testers
[21:40] <Riddell> 4.9.0 ready for testing in kubuntu-ninjas
[21:40] <Riddell> for precise and quantal
[21:40] <Quintasan> Riddell: Well you get it, I want to generate dsc and changes file for the current devel release and for last stable release to backport into ppa
[21:41] <Riddell> I'd run dch with the right argument for the devel release and debuild -S and dch with the arguments for the backport release and debuild -S
[21:42] <Quintasan> Can I somehow change only the target distro with dch?
[21:42] <Riddell> Quintasan: why would you want to do that instead of adding a changelog?
[21:43] <Riddell> the normal thing for backports is to add a changelog entry for the backport
[21:43] <Quintasan> Because I'm uploading 0.4.1-0ubuntu1 to quantal universe and 0.4.1-0ubuntu1~ppa1~precise1 to telepathy-kde/ppa?
[21:44] <Quintasan> Well adding changelog entry would solve the problem but well
[21:44] <Riddell> yeah, do add a changelog entry for 0.4.1-0ubuntu1~ppa1~precise1 when it's needed
[21:44] <Riddell> that shows what it is based on
[21:44] <Quintasan> I'll give it a go then
[21:45] <micahg> Quintasan: maybe try backportpackage :)
[21:47] <genii-around> So 4.9.0 is in kubuntu-ppa beta or experimental ?
[21:48] <Quintasan> micahg: I could try but it isn't as much fun as that :P
[21:48] <Riddell> genii-around: it's in ninjas, do you have the details?
[21:49] <genii-around> Riddell: No, sorry
[21:49] <Riddell> genii-around: voila, for quantal or precise
[21:50] <yofel> Quintasan: oh, you can use sed -e '1 s/x/y/' /tmp/bar  to only replace the first line (note the 1)
[21:51] <Quintasan> yofel: Thanks, that should probably get what I wanted but Riddell's suggestion makes sense too.
[21:51] <Quintasan> I wonder which one we want to employ though
[21:51] <yofel> right
[21:51] <Riddell> mine mine!
[21:51]  * yofel would probably just echo the whole changelog entry  himself ^^
[21:52] <BluesKaj> Riddell:  got a url for the ninjas ppa >
[21:52] <Riddell> BluesKaj: voila
[21:52] <BluesKaj> Riddell:  ok thanks
[21:53] <Riddell> and let me know how you get on with the upgrade
[21:54] <Quintasan> okay
[21:54] <Quintasan> Riddell: That kind of helped me but
[21:54] <Quintasan> http://wklej.org/id/801549
[21:54] <Quintasan> Take a look at the third entry
[21:54] <Quintasan> :D
[21:55] <yofel> looks ok to me, 2nd doesn't
[21:55] <Quintasan> this must be sed's doing
[21:55] <Quintasan> oh yeah 2nd
[21:55] <yofel> should be sed's doing
[21:56]  * Riddell snoozes
[21:57]  * Quintasan tries yofel's solution
[22:00] <Quintasan> yofel: now it didn't double the version but http://paste.kde.org/526244
[22:02] <yofel> what's the content before the script runs?
[22:02] <Quintasan> checking
[22:02] <Quintasan> http://paste.kde.org/526250/
[22:02] <Quintasan> This
[22:03] <Quintasan> The first run is with devel parametere
[22:03] <yofel> where's the script again?
[22:03]  * genii-around ponders why 4.9.0 wants to install kolab
[22:03] <yofel> iirc kdepim has kolab support now or something like that
[22:03] <Quintasan> http://paste.kde.org/526256
[22:04] <Riddell> genii-around: just the library
[22:04] <genii-around> Ah, OK
[22:04] <Riddell> incase kmail wants to talk to a kolab server
[22:04] <yofel> Quintasan: line 75 shouldn't be there IMO
[22:05] <yofel> at least not if you're using dch *after* that
[22:05] <Quintasan> Urgh
[22:05] <Quintasan> Certainly
[22:06] <Quintasan> final test incoming
[22:10] <Quintasan> AND YES
[22:10] <Quintasan> THAT'S IT
[22:11]  * Quintasan hugs Riddell and yofel
[22:50] <genii-around> First update/dist-upgrade completed, doing a second cycle right after had further updates, completing those now then will reboot and see if any issues.
[23:05] <genii-around> I have a habit right after kdm of ctrl-alt-f1 then do some things ( check disk usage, dmesg, ping/ssh home machine, etc) while desktop loads then alt-f7 back. In this case cursor was square and frozen for 4-5 seconds and looked like television static until it began to finally move when it went normal again. Probably my nvidia driver.
[23:06] <genii-around> ( didn't do this with 4.8.90 )