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ovnicrafthello, i want to import a branch from LP branch but i can figure out the URI, what is for a branch ?02:19
wgrantovnicraft: What exactly are you trying to do?02:23
wgrantovnicraft: Launchpad's branch import feature is for importing branches that aren't on Launchpad already.02:23
ovnicraftso i want to "import a branch from LP " i need to stacked ?02:23
wgrantovnicraft: If you want to copy an existing Launchpad branch, you probably want https://help.launchpad.net/Code/UploadingABranch02:24
ovnicrafti really don't undertand how to do "fork" in LP02:24
wgrantovnicraft: There's no need to explicitly fork like on GitHub02:24
ovnicrafti know there is no explicit like that but i can do it with some workflow02:25
wgrantYou just say 'bzr branch lp:fooproject; [make changes]; bzr commit; bzr push lp:~wgrant/fooproject/myfavouritefeature'02:25
ovnicraftor stacked branches, i was reading that02:25
wgrantRight, Launchpad uses stacking, so it doesn't need an explicit fork operation02:25
wgrantStacking happens automatically02:25
wgrantSo you just push a branch without thinking about it02:25
ovnicraftyes i got it, but I'm uploading all code again and i just want to push my changes02:26
wgrantHm. Which project?02:26
ovnicraftso stacked happens automatically and LP identify just my changes and upload ?02:26
wgrantRight.02:26
wgrantIt'll default to stacking on the trunk branch, lp:projectname.02:27
wgrantSo as long as that's set, it'll stack automatically.02:27
ovnicraftok thanks02:34
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Wiz_KeeDhey guys!!10:18
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jMCgHello happy people o/~13:40
jMCgI'm trying to create a patch for a project, and I suspect it might be useful for the project itself. Now, I'm slightly new to launchpad and bzr, so, the only DSCM I'm familiar with are git and hg - is there a specific workflow here? i.e.: Git(Hub) fork/branch/patch/pull-request13:41
czajkowskimgz: vila either of ye above?13:42
vilajMCg: well, that should be:13:43
vilabzr branch lp:<project> mypatch13:43
vilacd my patch ; hack hack, hack13:43
vilabzr commit -m 'patch description'13:44
czajkowskivila: thanks13:44
vilabzr push lp:~<jmcg>/project/nice-feature13:44
vilabzr push lp:~<jmcg>/<project>/nice-feature13:44
vilabzr lp-open13:44
jMCgI should find out what my lp name is ;)13:44
vilayup, you need to register to get write access13:45
jMCgIt would appear it's i.galic13:45
jMCg(I should document that.13:45
vilaClick the 'propose for merging' button, follow the instructions13:46
vilaand you're done13:46
vilajMCg: bzr launchpad-login <id>13:46
vilaand you're done13:46
jMCghttp://blag.esotericsystems.at/2011/06/whoami/ updated13:48
jMCgvila: bzr launchpad-login i.galic *just* works -- isn't it supposed to ask me for… something?13:49
vilaif you have already uploaded the right ssh key to lp, then no, I don't think it needs to ask you anything ;)13:50
vilawell, anything else than your nick that is13:50
jMCgAh, that makes sense.13:51
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jMCgis there such a thing as hgview or tig for bzr?14:27
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joey (Error ID: OOPS-75312bf5c355405dedbfd4baf7b9044f)15:06
ubot5https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=75312bf5c355405dedbfd4baf7b9044f15:06
mgzjMCg: for bzr-ish questions you're probably better off with #bzr15:10
jMCgmgz: *nod*15:11
mgzqbzr provides a 'qlog' command which is probably the best graphical history viewer there is15:11
mgzso, `sudo apt-get install qbzr` then `bzr qlog LOCATION`15:12
jMCgUgh. That's Qt.15:18
mgzso's hgview half the time :)15:18
mgzyou can use bzr-gtk too, but it's not nearly as fancy15:19
jelmerfancy good15:19
jMCgI'm just a big fan of the console. Especially for all things code.15:21
mgzyou know about `bzr log -n0` I take it?15:26
czajkowskijam: do you want a google hangout before the week is out to run over some stuff I do before next week ?15:27
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Organikhi, i would like to uplaod and build and older version of a package that already exists, how do i up the version on the build?17:25
Organikor make the ppa think that the older version is higher?17:25
dobeywhy would you want to do that?17:32
Organikbecause newer packages is too buggy and wont work17:33
dobeyyou uploaded the newer one to a PPA, then want to upload an older one?17:33
dobeyor the newer one is in ubuntu proper?17:33
Organikyes, no17:34
dobeyyou can't upload an older version of something already uploaded in a PPA; you'd have to create another PPA and put the old version in it. you can only upload newer versions to any one archive, for anything already in it17:35
Organikthats not going to be possible17:36
Organikit would cause too many problems17:36
dobeyhow so?17:37
Organikcreating ppas still has the package versioning problems17:37
Organiki dont want to debate this endlessly17:38
Organikis there a way to make the ppa accept the older package with a revision change that makes the older package superior or not?17:38
dobeyyou can lie about the verison i guess and call it 1.0.0.is.really.0.5.0-0ubuntu1~series1 for example ($NEWVERSION.is.really.$OLDVERSION)17:40
dobeyor you could just patch the newer version to fix the bugs instead17:41
Organikcannot patch it its a driver and i dont have the hability to fix it17:41
Organikliying would fix it but it would cause problems and confusion17:42
OrganikVersion older than that in the archive. 290.10-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa10 <= 295.20-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa217:42
Organikthere should be a way to increase that without lying per say no?17:43
Organiksince deleinting the new version from ppa has 0 effect17:43
dobeynot really, no17:43
Organiker this is silly17:44
dobeyuh no\17:44
Organikyea17:44
Organikyou cant delete the new package17:44
Organikso old one takes precedence17:44
dobeyeven if you could, it wouldn't matter17:45
dobeyif anyone had installed the newer one, they couldn't "upgrade" to the newer one without manual intervention17:45
dobeyerr, to the older one17:45
Organikwell documentation indicates that the revison can be set but it doesnt explain what make it higher17:46
Organikit would be easier to download older package manually  but i cant find a link17:46
Organikthx anyway17:48
tsmithI think I'm doing something wrong, because I'm not getting any karma for my revisions...17:49
tsmithOn project lp:~theodore-phpexperts/phpu-training/lesson2-multiauth, I have an desire to keep each lesson in its own branch. I dev locally, each lesson has 3-8 iterations each with 5-8 commits. I merge the local branches to the lesson branch then push, but I don't get any karma...17:50
tsmithCan someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?17:50
tsmithLesson 2, for instance, has 7 top-level commits (4 are merges) and 21 total commits.17:51
Organik@dobey18:03
Organikthere is a way18:03
Organikits called a eppoch18:03
Organikjust remain to be seen if it builds18:04
dobeyno, that's called a last resort clusterbomb18:04
dobeyyou should not use it18:04
Organikit is a last resort18:05
Organiki have no other choice without actually confusing the actual version number18:06
Organikor lets say18:06
dobeyyou have a lot of other choices18:06
dobeyusing an epoch will royally screw over anyone using the PPA18:06
Organikhow so18:06
dobeybecause whenever a new version is released into ubuntu, they won't ever actually see it, unless they know it's there, and manually install it, after disabling your PPA18:07
Organikubuntu is not actually releasing anymore packages for that18:08
Organikits all 3rd party18:08
dobeyfor nvidia drivers?18:08
Organikand the 3rd party wont work18:08
Organikyes18:08
Organikxswat ppa publishes newer packages however they so buggy it wont work18:09
Organikover 5 or 20 version later and its not fixed18:09
Organikonly last known working revison is what im trying to "overwrite"18:10
dobeypretty sure ubuntu is still releasing new versions of nvidia drivers18:10
dobey302.17 was uploaded to quantal less than a month ago18:10
Organikpretty sure its not for the ubuntu release i need or others may need without upgrading everything18:10
dobeyand when it is time to upgrade, adding an epoch will break everything18:11
Organikif upgrading distro was easy it wouldnt be a problem, but it takes days of manually changing system to make it work18:11
Organikits a specific system, to upgrade its better to delete everything and start again18:12
Organikin such a case epoch wont mean anything18:13
Organikanyway18:13
manumilouhi all18:17
Organikhi18:17
Organik@dobey: this way anyone can still upgrade the kernel and other componets without a complete system rebuild18:23
Organikif bug is ever fixed on drivers then i can always build new version with epoch, and give users some continuity that actual doesnt bugger up the actual practical working18:25
Organikif it builds ok18:25
Organikit not desireable but it is a last resort18:26
Organikpersonally i dont fancy spending a month reconfiguring my system with a new distro upgrade18:28
Organiktha again18:29
dobeybut it's ok to spend a month backporting a new X to break everything, which would force you to spend a month fixing everything after an upgrade18:30
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rmkAre the "universe" repos included to satisify PPA package dependancies?20:55
dobeyyes20:56
micahgrather, they can be if desired21:05
micahg(is the default I think)21:05
manumilouI am having problems uploading ppas. Is this the right place to get some help?21:10
Lasallmanumilou: yes21:26
manumilouI want to upload a newer version of sflphone-client-kde package, but no packages appear on my ppa repository, even though upload through signing and dput was successfull21:35
dobeythe signature on the package probably doesn't match the signature id on your launchpad account21:36
manumiloufor which launchpad account is it looking for a match? the team? one of the team's member?21:43
dobeyyours21:43
TheLordOfTime^ that21:44
TheLordOfTimeit'll look for your specific lp account's pgp key21:44
dobeyor well, i think it tries to find an account with that pgp key id, and if it can't, then it basically has no authoritative way to tell you what's wrong21:45
QuintasanHi, I'm getting a lot of File telepathy-logger-qt_0.4.1-0ubuntu1~ppa1~precise1.debian.tar.gz already exists in Telepathy KDE Releases, but uploaded version has different contents messages because I uploaded the same version but with different target distribution, is it possible to somehow get all deleted files purged in that ppa so I can reupload?22:21
* Quintasan facepalms22:21
Quintasannevermind22:21
QuintasanI can just bump the version22:21
Quintasansilly me22:21
mame_Hello23:06
mame_?23:06
mame_Anybody online?23:07
TheLordOfTimeno23:08
TheLordOfTimeits better to just ask your question23:08
mame_Sorry, I've never used IRC before, and I'm having trouble with Lubuntu as well.23:08
mame_I'm trying to set up this pc for a mame arcade cabinet, and I need to download Wah!cade from launchpad, my problem is I have no idea how to do it.  I have a Launchpad account.23:09
TheLordOfTimemame_:  wait what?23:09
* TheLordOfTime googles for that23:09
mame_Multiple arcade machine emulator, I believe.23:10
mame_For playing arcade, and I plan to have Snes, N64, PS1/2 games on there too.23:10
TheLordOfTimeyou mean https://launchpad.net/wahcade  ?23:10
mame_Yeah.23:11
TheLordOfTimei guess you'd have to download the code with bzr and manually build it23:11
mame_I type the bzr thing in terminal, it says I need to login23:11
TheLordOfTimesince they didnt seem to package it23:11
TheLordOfTimedid you read the error?23:11
TheLordOfTimebzr launchpad-login i think it is23:11
wgrantmame_: That's just a warning, not an error.23:11
wgrantYou can still read public code without logging in.23:11
wgrant'bzr branch lp:wahcade'23:12
TheLordOfTime^23:12
wgrantis what you want to do23:12
TheLordOfTimewgrant:  you might want to talk them through getting builddeps23:12
mame_First it outputs, "warning, gnome-keyring couldn't connect," then when I login it says I'm not registered23:12
* TheLordOfTime has to shift attention to an imploding server23:12
wgrantmame_: Hm, that's odd. What if you try 'bzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~andy-balcombe/wahcade/main' directly?23:13
mame_Ah, after that it starts downloading.23:14
mame_It still says I'm not registered on Launchpad.23:14
wgrantYeah, it'll suggest that you should log in, but for a one-off it's not required.23:14
wgrantIt'll be a bit slower, but it'll work23:15
TheLordOfTimemhm23:15
TheLordOfTimewgrant:  is there a way to identify which PGP keys were recently used on an LP account?23:15
mame_I just get, "bzr error: the user name ********** is not registed on launchpad.23:15
wgrantIs it continuing, or has it exited?23:16
wgrantIt may have already finished.23:16
wgrantTheLordOfTime: There's not.23:16
TheLordOfTimewgrant:  bleh.23:16
TheLordOfTimewgrant:  any way to easily check each key for uploadDate?23:16
mame_I was searching it on google, and the guide had some crazying thing about getting your keyring code, then uploading it to launchpad, but I just got so lost.23:16
TheLordOfTimeor modificationDate23:16
wgrantTheLordOfTime: Of a package? We store that in the DB, but there's no easy way to look it up.23:17
TheLordOfTimewgrant:  of the keys themselves23:17
TheLordOfTimei.e.23:17
TheLordOfTimethe keys on my LP profile23:17
* TheLordOfTime has 4 of them, and is trying to purgify the old ones23:17
wgrantmame_: Right, for uploading code or reading private code you need to configure an SSH key for authentication. But this is public and you're just reading, so you don't need to .23:17
StevenKTheLordOfTime: That's up to you. LP only has the public part of the key.23:18
TheLordOfTimeStevenK:  does the keyserver retain the upload dates?23:18
StevenKTheLordOfTime: The keyserver has nothing to do when keys were lasted used.23:18
StevenKs/lasted/last/23:18
wgrantThe keyserver will show when you created them.23:18
wgrantBut not when they were uploaded.23:18
mame_Hmm, well why does it say I'm not registerd then?23:19
TheLordOfTimeStevenK:  i should have reworded the original question23:19
TheLordOfTimeStevenK:  based on the upload date, i can tell whether its an old unused key23:19
TheLordOfTimeso does the keyserver know when the key was *uploaded* to it23:20
wgrant  keyid   |        date_created23:20
wgrant----------+----------------------------23:20
wgrant D479E9F4 | 2011-07-07 16:41:00.17782423:20
wgrant C4CA79B2 | 2011-07-09 21:42:02.22263523:20
wgrant 3D597487 | 2011-08-15 02:09:30.00895523:20
wgrantThat's the date that each of the older three was uploaded to Launchpad23:20
wgrantD1D21CE1 is newer23:20
TheLordOfTimeyeah, they're all old, except D479...23:20
TheLordOfTimeyeah D1D2... is uploaded today23:20
mame_Alright, everthing seems to be working now, but I cannot find /usr/games/sdlmame, in my home folder there is no folder named games.  How do I find where to put my roms?23:24
TheLordOfTimewgrant:  StevenK:  thanks.23:24
TheLordOfTimemame_:  did you just download the code with bzr branch?23:24
TheLordOfTimeif so the program's not compiled and made useable23:24
TheLordOfTimeusable*23:24
mame_TheLordOfTime: no, I installed the deb package, but it's working.  I'm reading further, and I found the directory, now I just have to change where Mame looks for the files.23:27
mame_No, I went to the website for the code, and downloaded the .deb, then installed it that way.23:33
mame_I keep getting this error:23:41
mame_Traceback (most recent call last):23:41
mame_  File "wahcade.py", line 81, in <module>23:41
mame_    app = WinMain(options)23:41
mame_  File "/usr/local/share/games/wahcade/win_main.py", line 300, in __init__23:41
mame_    self.load_emulator()23:41
mame_  File "/usr/local/share/games/wahcade/win_main.py", line 1078, in load_emulator23:41
mame_    self.load_list()23:41
mame_  File "/usr/local/share/games/wahcade/win_main.py", line 1121, in load_list23:41
mame_    self.pop_games_list()23:41
mame_  File "/usr/local/share/games/wahcade/win_main.py", line 1384, in pop_games_list23:41
mame_    self.emu_ini)23:41
mame_  File "/usr/local/share/games/wahcade/filters.py", line 370, in create_initial_filter23:41
mame_    gd = mi.next()23:41
mame_  File "/usr/local/share/games/wahcade/filters.py", line 272, in get_xml_game_item23:41
mame_    d['controller_type'] = _controllers[ctrl.attrib['type']]23:41
mame_KeyError: 'joy'23:41

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