[09:36] <leszek> hi
[12:43] <smile> hi :)
[13:09] <tramm> does lubuntu software center work for anyone? for me "Install Packages" button is always insensitive and I cannot install anything.
[13:12] <tramm> someone told me it could be because of language settings... anyone non-english using lubuntu software center?
[13:47] <tramm> unicode problem it is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-software-center/+bug/1031346
[19:21] <Jeredd> Is there a MAC clone feature for lubuntu 12.04 like ubuntu 12.04?
[19:23] <bioterror> what?
[19:23] <Unit193> Don't know what "like Ubuntu 12.04" is, but you can install a mac changer.
[19:24] <Jeredd> In Ubuntu, you can edit your connection and declare a clone MAC address if you need to spoof a different card. There doesn't seem to be an "Edit Connection" feature in Lubuntu
[19:24] <bioterror> I wasnt sure are we talking about mac address as in hardware address or Macintosh computers
[19:28] <Jeredd> Unit193: So I'm going to need to get something third party? It's not baked in like with Unity?
[19:30] <bioterror> you can do it with ifconfig too
[19:30] <Unit193> I've never used Unity, I don't know what "like Unity" is.  There is a setting in nm-applet though, in the trey.
[19:32] <Jeredd> I'm not seeing it as an option in nm-applet but I'll just script it with ifconfig, thanks
[19:33] <Jeredd> and Unity is Ubuntu's default desktop
[19:33] <bioterror> if you have /etc/network/interfaces , you can add there: hwaddress ether 01:02:03:04:05:06
[19:41] <Unit193> (I  know what unity is, just haven't used it)  Right click > Edit Connections > Wireless/Wird > Edit > There
[21:46] <tramm> I am preparing a localised Lubuntu derivative under https://launchpad.net/estobuntu project and I am thinking that I need to remove Lubuntu Software Center, because it has too many bugs to be usable.
[21:47] <tramm> I am also thinking of replacing Chromium with Firefox, since their need for resources is almost the same (Firefox seems to be even better in some cases).
[21:48] <tramm> I am also thinking that maybe LibreOffice is still better choice than Lubuntus default office apps, although it needs more resources.
[21:48] <tramm> Any comments of suggestions?
[21:48] <tramm> of=or
[21:52] <Unit193> LSC is preference, I personally don't like those application types, Firefox 15/16 seems less resource heavy, and much more so with more tabs, but xxxterm remains the best.  Libreoffice while being more compatible with microsoft office, is quite a bit heavier than the current default.
[21:58] <wxl> it took me a while but i'm convinced chromium is 100% better than firefox
[21:59] <wxl> and as a die hard libreoffice user i've found abiword to be sufficient unless i'm dealing with some document produced by some super new version of microsoft's crapware
[21:59] <wxl> and by sufficient i mean WAY faster
[22:03] <Unit193> But, the version selected to be in the LTS is a poor choice.
[22:06] <tramm> I used Abiword a lot about 7 years and it was fine. Using Abiword in Lubuntu 12.04 now is sluggish, even typing and moving the cursor in text is slow. Don't know if it's just refreshing too much or whatever it does.
[22:07] <tramm> What about opening Powerpoint presentations in Lubuntu?
[22:07] <tramm> Isn't this a must?
[22:08] <tramm> And about LSC, I have reported two bugs today and one of them is a critical one. Cannot install any software which has dependencies. Unicode problems. I really cannot recommend it to users like that.
[22:12] <tramm> And Firefox busts Chromium in my case too. I tried to use latter for weeks, but when I had many tabs open, it started stalling and crashing. Firefox has never done it. It may get slow, but I can always recover by closing tabs.
[22:15] <tramm> Unit193, as far as I know, Lubuntu has no LTS release.
[22:16] <Unit193> Correct, but the repo is the same.
[22:46] <foolinsd> hi, i was wondering if someone can point me in the right direction regarding requesting a feature for the alt.iso - adding support for iso-scan/filename script that is found in the livecd.iso