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bkerensaheh00:00
JoseeAntonioRmhall119: pong00:05
JoseeAntonioRmhall119: the site seems to be down00:07
bkerensamhall119: the cloud failed ;p00:08
balloonsso close to finish the editing.. everything I tried on quantal failed fyi.. audio/video stuff quantal and me are crash city00:51
balloonsmoving files to the precise box.. things seem much more stable.. fingers crossed00:51
MrChrisDruifIt IS a LTS release for a reason, right balloons ?01:13
=== nigelb is now known as nigel-cloud
=== nigelbabu is now known as nigelb
mhall119JoseeAntonioR: I was wondering if I could use the on air account03:50
JoseeAntonioRmhall119: for sure! would you mind a pm?03:50
mhall119JoseeAntonioR: tomorrow?03:50
mhall119I'm off to bed03:50
JoseeAntonioRsure :)03:50
bkerensagnight07:57
popeyjcastro, can you copy the content over to ubuntuonair.com?10:51
jcastropopey: yep one moment12:38
jcastropopey: YGM12:41
popeyjcastro, i messed up dns, changed it earlier, still rippling, sorry12:43
jcastrok12:43
jcastroI just sent you the raw html you can paste in easy peasy12:43
popeyta12:43
popeyjcastro, try http://ubuntuone.com/wp-admin/index.php ?12:44
popeythe content you posted doesn't have the embedded video12:45
jcastroWe couldn't find that page12:45
popeywhen?12:45
jcastropopey: no it's the thing underneath12:45
jcastrooh, you don't have the embed either?12:45
popeyer12:45
popeynot ubuntuone12:45
popeyheh12:45
jcastrolet me just get you all the html12:45
popeyyeah, pastebin it or something12:45
popeythe dns was messed I only changed it ~4 hours ago12:45
popeyso you wouldn't have been able to get to wp-admin, but can now12:46
jcastrohttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1121355/12:47
jcastroah, you can chop the bottom bits off12:47
jcastro26 and below can be dropped12:47
jcastrooh, while you are in there, you can also drop the top line12:48
jcastrothe "Next Hangout" part12:48
popeyok12:53
popeyhttp://ubuntuonair.com/ look okay?12:55
popey85.119.82.80 should be ip in dns12:56
jcastroslickamundo!12:56
popeybiab12:56
AlanBellhow do you do the slick name overlays?13:04
jcastroit's an addon13:25
jcastrolower something-something13:26
jcastroit's in their little store thing when you do a hangout13:26
AlanBelllower third, pretty cool13:27
AlanBellthat does make it look a lot more professional13:27
jcastroyeah13:27
jcastromhall119: hey, so the help lens is ready to go14:16
jcastroit just needs to go into universe14:16
mhall119cool, has a bug been filed for getting it in?14:18
jcastrono clue14:18
jcastromhall119: ah nice, I didn't even remember we had a mail thread for the lens, <314:43
jcastropopey: why does that guy run a linux website if he hates linux?14:59
jcastroI mean, it could at least be funny like linuxhater14:59
popeyheh15:00
mhall119what guy?15:00
jcastrothis muktware site15:01
jonodpm, mhall119 all set?15:01
dpmjono, yep15:01
jcastroit's like one minute you suck for not being FSF-compliant, and then the next it's like "Netflix doesn't work, you suck."15:01
mhall119yup15:01
jcastropick one!15:01
mhall119jcastro: ah,yeah, that site does seem to have some odd split personality15:02
jcastropopey: it has to be the same guy, he's the only guy who thinks it's normal to sync your phone/tablet via a cable in 2012.15:02
popeyheh15:02
jonodpm, mhall119 https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/85670cd7ee5775c75beaa80c0065eb3189c5b494?authuser=0&hl=en-US15:02
jonoballoons, can we talk when I drive out to my meeting in about an hour?17:00
JoseeAntonioRmhall119: available for a PM?17:01
balloonsjono, sure sure17:01
jonothanks balloons, I just need to wrap some things up here before I head out17:01
mhall119JoseeAntonioR: sure17:01
balloonsI'm sapping my upload bandwidth right now17:01
s-foxhello :)17:15
AlanBellcome and see the Ubuntu UK podcast studio https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/226b753eeff113fc0d04796f28668efdf61ea7f4?authuser=0&hl=en#17:25
jonoballoons, heading out, will call soon17:31
jonomhall119, jcastro back later17:31
balloonsjono, k..17:31
balloonswondershaper is awesome :-)17:35
IdleOnebkerensa: plz2give me instructions on how I get a cool Ubuntu tag for hangouts?17:54
IdleOnebanner* thingy17:54
bkerensaIdleOne: use Lower Third Hangout17:54
IdleOnehuh?17:55
IdleOneoh, ok.17:55
IdleOnewhere do i get the logo?17:56
bkerensaIdleOne: for Ubuntu logo you can download it off google images17:58
bkerensaits cof png17:58
IdleOnevery silly question that was18:04
IdleOne:)18:04
jcastrohey bkerensa19:04
jcastrorandom question19:04
jcastrowhat's up with the sumo stuff?19:04
jcastrotechnoviking: ping19:04
jcastroor philballew19:04
bkerensajcastro: Trying to figure out what is preventing it from installing on 12.0419:05
jcastro;_;19:05
bkerensaso far three people have tried and it just is not installing properly19:05
bkerensaMe, mhall119 and imbrandon (I believe?)19:06
jcastroWHAT. No CHARM!?!19:06
jcastro:)19:06
bkerensaI have a instance spinning up right now so I am going to take another crack at it19:06
* imbrandon looks up19:06
bkerensajcastro: one cannot confidently make a charm if they cannot do a install manually first19:06
imbrandonhuh ?19:06
jcastrobkerensa: have we tried flaming nigelb?19:07
imbrandonohh yea, what he said :)19:07
bkerensawhy would we flame nigelb?19:07
jcastrobkerensa: it would make you feel better I bet?19:07
balloonsThis video has been removed because it is too long -- what gives youtube?19:07
philballewSumo is pretty cool. I have not seen much movement.19:09
jcastrohey philballew19:10
philballewhey jcastro whats up!19:10
jcastroI am looking for a PHP developer for SSo for the forums19:10
jcastrohttp://www.jorgecastro.org/2012/07/31/ubuntu-forums-needs-single-sign-on-again/19:10
marcoceppijcastro: I thought that was fixed19:10
jcastrocan we put out a sticky for this?19:10
jcastrobasically we have all the code opened now19:11
* marcoceppi reads19:11
philballewIll see if I can do it, and also email my php dev friends.19:11
jcastronod19:12
imbrandonjcastro / marcoceppi : if you dont take it on or need a hand i can help this evening for sure19:12
imbrandonlike in oh +4.5 hours19:12
imbrandonor so19:12
jcastroimbrandon: nginx subordinate first pls.19:12
imbrandonits done19:12
imbrandoni just need to add a maintainer and resubit19:12
imbrandonbut its on LP19:13
imbrandon:)19:13
bkerensaupdates on HP Cloud are Sloooooow19:13
imbrandonbkerensa: use my mirrors19:13
bkerensathey need mirros like AWS19:13
bkerensaimbrandon: link?19:13
jcastroimbrandon: push that badboy, juan is reviewing today19:13
imbrandonhalf sec19:13
jcastroPUSH FAST19:13
imbrandonjcastro: kk19:13
imbrandonbkerensa: http://az-1.hpcloud.mirror.websitedevops.com/ubuntu19:14
bkerensakk19:14
imbrandonprecise and quantal, all pockets19:14
bkerensamhall119: working with sumo dev to try and resolve the 12.04 issues19:15
imbrandonprecise precise-updates precise-backports precise-security , and same thing with quantal, as well as deb and deb-src19:15
bkerensajcastro: I found the issue with SUMO... funny enough someone from OSU OSL pointed me to a helpful manual19:17
bkerensa;)19:17
bkerensawell19:17
bkerensaa workaround19:17
jcastrocan we still blame nigel though?19:18
cjohnstonyes19:18
bkerensasure19:18
jcastroexcellent19:18
bkerensajcastro: do we know how to get reverse dns with hpcloud?19:19
bkerensado they support it yet?19:19
jcastrohuh?19:20
bkerensardns19:20
bkerensaPTR Records19:21
jcastrohttps://community.hpcloud.com/question/462/reverse-dns19:21
jcastrois the best I can find19:21
jcastroI didn't know they didn't do reverse dns19:21
bkerensayeah thats pretty lame :P19:22
jcastrois this for sending mail?19:22
bkerensayes19:22
imbrandonewww19:22
imbrandondont19:22
pleia2jcastro: thanks for that blog post :)19:22
jcastrodo they not have some API or something or some partner to do it?19:22
jcastropleia2: which one?19:22
imbrandonjcastro: yea19:22
jcastrolol, .25 cents a mail I am sure.19:23
pleia2jcastro: openid, the poor forums admins are spending huge huge amounts of time fighting spam every day, we really need this upgrade19:23
pleia2(new spam tools are only in 4.x)19:23
bkerensadid Canonical not hire a PHP Developer to finish the upgrade?19:23
imbrandonbkerensa: please please please use like mailchimp or ses or something else ... please :) ( i agree that no rdns is lame, but please dont run your own mailserver )19:23
jcastrobkerensa: no19:24
bkerensabkerensa: SUMO has mailing capabilities19:24
jcastroour ISD team sort of tried, but PHP/vbulletin isn't really in our bag of tricks.19:24
imbrandonpleia2: i'm on it this afternoon :)19:24
pleia2imbrandon: <319:24
jcastrohe's on it after he submits that charm19:24
jcastrois what he meant to say. :)19:24
imbrandoni just deployed it to test a final time then should be back in the queue :)19:25
jcastroAWWW YEAH, that's how we roll.19:25
imbrandonjcastro: are you wanting to use it or something ?19:25
jcastronew charms, new forums, new wiki.19:25
jcastrorunning spam relay servers on hp cloud ....19:25
imbrandonhahaha19:25
jcastromostly I want to demo it19:25
imbrandonahh,19:25
jcastroyou and marco keeping all the goodies in ~yourname19:26
imbrandongot two more production sites on juju now, as well as some kick ass jujube things comming today too19:26
jcastrohad to pull our last demo from ~foo .... booo!19:26
bkerensajcastro: they would only be spam relays if they were not setup properly19:26
bkerensa;p19:26
jcastroLast time I had to touch a mail server .... hmmm, 2003 I think?19:27
bkerensaLOL19:27
imbrandonjcastro: i deploy everything from local: anyhow after spamaps convinced me thats the best way, and just charm getall blah to update the local repo now and then19:27
snap-lAlso, certain mail providers will block misconfigured mail servers19:27
bkerensajcastro: and now you let third parties own it and retain it forever19:27
bkerensa;)19:27
jcastroyeah but it doesn't count until it's in the charm store.19:27
snap-lComcast is the worst offender for this19:27
jcastrosame reason your program isn't "finished" until it's in the software center, etc.19:27
imbrandonbkerensa: no there is a major diff between storage and smtp / ses providers19:27
bkerensaheh19:29
imbrandonbkerensa: btw http://sendgrid.com/ has a free level and is pretty awesom plus a cool api19:29
imbrandonand if thats not you cup o tea SES is pretty sweet and cheap too, but for god sakes get into this melinium and dont run a smtp server yourself19:30
imbrandonbut those two plus mailchip i've personally used/use and can say are rocking, depending ont the scope of need19:31
greg-gwait, I'm confused, just because there are commercial entities that do a service means that no one should ever do that service themselves again?19:31
bkerensalol19:31
snap-lgreg-g: If you want to set up those services (I run my own server) then feel free19:31
bkerensaimbrandon: so one our our loco guys works at one of the largest mail providers in the modern world and after the stories I have heard of how they handle  mail of consumer and enterprise customers19:31
bkerensaidk19:31
greg-gyeah, I use self-hosted email every day without issue19:32
imbrandongreg-g: no not at all, i;'m just saying knowing for what bk needs and the levelev of effort for him to put into it19:32
snap-lbut if you're doing mass-mailings, it's probably better to get someone external19:32
imbrandonthat its not worth it19:32
imbrandonbut someone else or other use case it might be19:32
greg-gimbrandon: that's a different statement than what you were making above, then ;)19:32
snap-lGetting a SPF record right is an afternoon's work.19:32
bkerensa"SendGrid will have the right to collect, extract, compile, synthesize, and analyze non-personally identifiable data or information"19:32
imbrandongreg-g: only because i hyper targeted it to bk already so i knew my audiance :)19:32
greg-gheh, fair19:32
greg-gno out of context quoting imbrandon, you hear? ;)19:33
imbrandonhehe19:33
imbrandonand take no offince to that bkerensa as reading back what i just wrote looks kinda downer , i'd say exactly the same thing to/about  myself in this circumstance :) taken any other way than just a helpfull advice i'd take myself as well is not intended :)19:34
bkerensajcastro: so remember the ppa I had to remove from subway at OSCON for node?19:35
jcastroyeah19:35
bkerensawell I guess SUMO only works with the ppa version19:35
bkerensaheh19:35
jcastrochris lea's ppa19:35
bkerensago figure19:35
jcastrowelcome to node.js!19:35
MrChrisDruifWhat+19:35
imbrandonheh node js is very version picky19:35
MrChrisDruif?19:35
imbrandonbut i loves it :)19:35
imbrandonjcastro: as long as you keep in the same series you SHOULD be fine, e.g. a 0.4.x node app / 0.6.x node app / 0.8.x node app ... etc also node like rvm/ruby or python etc etc can have multi version installed side by side easily19:37
bkerensawhy are they not backwards compatible?19:40
imbrandonapi changes, its a well known way to do things, just like the kernel 2.4 to 2.6 etc etc19:41
bkerensajcastro: whats my limitations on instances for free? I wanna spawn up a dedicated instance for database19:56
bkerensaMySQL-Python wont install =/20:07
jcastrobkerensa: anything within reason20:16
jcastroanything that helps the project ftw.20:16
jcastrobut if you need like 1000k instances or something you need to ask first (ask them not me)20:16
czajkowskialoha20:33
JoseeAntonioRhi, czajkowski!20:38
dakerPHP madness...21:04
mhall119daker: that's the only way PHP works :)21:08
philballewbkerensa, if you need help with sumo, I can do some sumo stuff tomorrow21:16
bkerensasumo is up21:19
bkerensajust going to do some minor tweaking on styles and next week or so we will begin testing21:19
philballewalright, ping or text me then or something21:20
* mhall119 is off to make dinner21:37
* bkerensa is off to install a SSD and migrate data21:39
cjohnstonbkerensa: get them to hook me up with an ssd as well ;-)23:15

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