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Azelphurali1234: while your around, you know how I can add a key to apt?03:56
ali1234apt-add-key or something03:56
ali1234apt-key add <keyfile>03:56
Azelphurali1234: I don't have a keyfile, only "C697D823EB0AB654"03:57
Azelphurthe site just gives me a repo and when I run apt-get update it complains with that03:57
ali1234what repo?03:57
Azelphurdeb http://download.jitsi.org/nightly/deb unstable/03:58
ali1234jitsi?03:58
Azelphuryep03:58
Azelphur:P03:58
ali1234google for the key, get answer03:58
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christelgood morning05:39
MartijnVdS\o05:41
christelhellloooooo MartijnVdS \o05:56
ali1234hmmmm06:19
ali1234how do i know if someone is doing that "apachekiller" attack on a webserver?06:20
ali1234the log is just full of "::1 - - [31/Jul/2012:02:43:16 +0100] "OPTIONS * HTTP/1.0" 200 - "-" "Apache (internal dummy connection)""06:22
ali1234hmm :/06:25
matttthat's your localhost06:26
mattt(127.0.0.1)06:26
ali1234wait06:27
ali1234i see the problem06:27
matttWHYUDOSEYERSELF?06:27
ali1234when i type my website into firefox and hit enter it's putting "https" on the front instead of "http"06:27
ali1234server is not setup for https06:27
ali1234why is it doing this?06:32
diploMorning all07:18
knightwisemorning everyone07:19
njaMorning knightwise07:23
knightwisehey nja , how are you doing today ?07:30
njaknightwise: Not bad07:31
njaBeen coding for 2 hours now and feel like I've done nothing.07:31
knightwiseLol , know what you mean07:31
knightwisei've been stuck in friggin outlook all morning07:32
njaknightwise: Microsoft product.  'nuff said.07:32
knightwiseYeah07:33
knightwiseGot 12.04 running on my MbPro :)07:33
knightwiseMuuuuch better :p07:33
knightwiseNow all I need is an app to record friggin Skype07:33
ali1234skype uses pulseaudio07:33
ali1234record it like you record anything that uses pulse07:34
knightwiseSo straight in Audacity ?07:34
ali1234probably07:35
knightwisehmm.. should take a look at that07:37
jacobwnja: don't worry, i've spent whole days coding and realised that i've actually implementing anything apart from a perfectly useless abstraction of what i had before07:37
njajacobw: I'm doing lots of non visible tweaks, that's probably it.07:38
knightwiseGrr .. I just wish my Macbook Trackpad wasnt so darn sensitive07:40
knightwisepopey : Do you have the same problem where your trackpad on your macbook pro is supersensitive under Ubuntu ?07:54
popeyyes and no07:54
popeyyes, I did, and no, I don't run Ubuntu on it anymore07:54
knightwiseWhow ! You switched back to OsX   ?  Now i'm stunned !07:54
directhexi don't like osx. it's smelly, like from a bum07:57
ali1234+107:57
knightwiseMountain lion is not that great07:58
knightwiselittle bit "Meh"07:58
directhexsee also: lion, snow leopard, leopard, and earlier07:59
directhexi gave up remembering what constitutes "earlier". i think there's a panther and a lynx somewhere07:59
christel022..33033.363.3,63..3,6307:59
christel,,07:59
christelsorry ,small child07:59
MartijnVdSchristel: http://www.youtube.com/numberphile08:00
knightwiseI must say , dual booting a macbook pro with 8 gigs of ram and both an SSD and 'spinning' drive under 1204 does make for one fast machine08:02
jacobwmorning08:13
njaMorning jacobw!08:13
czajkowskialoha08:20
njaHello czajkowski08:20
hoover_morning all08:24
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hooveranyone sucessfully using a galaxy S3 with 12.04?08:25
hooverThe device comes up in Unity 2d, but all dirs are empty08:25
czajkowskinja: oh well done no  @ before nick :)08:27
nja:D08:27
hooverI've also tried using the PTP protocol on the s3, no luck 8(08:30
livingdaylightgm all08:33
hoovermornin08:34
livingdaylightgot Olympic archery in the background08:35
livingdaylightI was just thinking, instead of shooting at silly target it would be way more entertaining if they had someone at the other end with an apple on their head08:36
jjcool37Hello!08:36
livingdaylightThen I discovered this: http://www.devppl.com/flash-game/apple-shooter/08:36
dwatkinslivingdaylight: that's a nice little game, reminds me of the tank games I used to play on the BBC Micro08:38
dwatkinsless manual editing of the angle and force, though...08:38
livingdaylightHit apple on second attempt! LoL08:40
* livingdaylight gives himself a gold medal \o/08:40
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)08:42
hoovermorning biggie08:42
bigcalmHowdy hoovie08:44
bigcalmYouTube have been pestering me to monetise my account. I had no idea that anybody was looking at my videos08:53
bigcalmHaha, it's a minecraft video I made. Figures08:54
popey:)08:55
bigcalmWhich means it's hellishly out of date now08:55
gordi used to get those but then i got a copyright infringement thing and had to go to copyright school and now i don't think they want me anymore, so i suggest doing that08:56
bigcalmI click the button to enable and it says no08:56
* bigcalm shrugs and gets on with life08:56
JamesTaitGood morning all! :)08:59
JamesTaitLooks like summer's back!08:59
bigcalmSeasonal rain and generally grey? Yep :)09:00
gordturns out my new monthly data limit resets on midnight tonight, so i'm downloading as much internet as i can at 10mb/s, so a lot of internet09:00
gorduh MB/s09:00
* JamesTait sighs09:06
JamesTaitI had the great idea of connecting my external monitor to my laptop and having Olympic coverage running on it.09:06
JamesTaitnvidia seem to have different ideas.09:07
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n1md4109:15
n1md4gah! ignore that09:15
* n1md4 curses screen!09:15
n1md4I'm sure these occassional typos are nothing to do with dvorak ^^09:15
jacobwi tried dvorak, then i tried to use vim, then i gave up on dvorak09:18
mungojerryncurses screen?09:19
n1md4jacobw: persist, it all makes sense eventually ;)  Although, you know, it's all about vi ... on that note, as a vim user you'd have been more than happy with your arrow keys, no? };->09:26
n1md4mungojerry: yeah, meta-" then the window number, sometimes I miss the " :\09:27
KungFuPandamorning guys09:32
KungFuPandaanyone knows why my vi editor, not going to INSERT mode ? when I press "Esc" then "i" .09:32
jjcool37Wassssaaaaaappppp09:35
bigcalmKungFuPanda: i == insert09:36
bigcalmr would be used for replace09:36
bigcalmOh, _not_ going into09:36
* bigcalm should learn to read09:36
KungFuPanda:P09:39
brobostigongood morning everyone.09:40
* mungojerry is trying to WFH again09:41
hoovergood morning brobostigon09:42
brobostigongood morning hoover09:42
hooverAnyone here using a galaxy s3 /w precise?09:42
* brobostigon is pleased with the nexus7 so far. and likes watching tv on the hd screen.09:43
hooverI like the phone too, but didn't investigate enough before I ordered it (work phone)09:43
mungojerryn7 seems incredibly popular09:43
dogmatic69Is there a way to stop mounted things showing in nautilus?09:44
KungFuPandaall right, it does go into INSERT MODE, it just not display the "INSERT MODE" information in the bottom line, do not know why09:44
hooverseems there's nothing  but trouble re: s3 <-> 12.0409:44
hooverhey biggie09:44
KungFuPandajust installed vim instead, much better09:47
bigcalmHello again hoovie?09:50
czajkowskipopey: ping09:50
bigcalmhoover: I have both an sgs3 and Ubuntu 12.04. The only way I connect the two is via AirDroid09:51
davmor2Morning all09:55
czajkowskidavmor2: ello09:56
davmor2czajkowski: morning sweetness and light.......oh wait no the other evil and darkness I always get them confused ;)09:57
davmor2czajkowski: how are you?09:58
czajkowskigood thanks09:58
czajkowski:)09:58
hooverbigcalm: thanks for the info biggie09:59
hooverso mtp mode isn't working for you, either?09:59
gordtempted to ponk down the money for that silly google tablet, but can't actually come up with any uses for such a device09:59
bigcalmI've not bothered to connect it via any other means10:00
hooverbigcalm: is this a free app?10:00
bigcalmYes10:01
hooverOk, thanks, I'll look into it10:01
* christel hugs czajkowski and bigcalm 10:01
hoovercould be a problem at work though where the WLAN is separated from the internal network10:01
* bigcalm squeezes christel10:01
czajkowskihmm since I upgraded to JB I cannot get my phone to work on 12.04 in fact10:02
bigcalmhoover: doesn't require internet access10:02
czajkowskiannoying10:02
czajkowskichristel: herrrro10:02
christelhi sugar10:02
hooverJB?10:02
bigcalmhoover: as long as your phone can get an IP address from your internal network10:02
hooverAh, jellybean10:03
bigcalmhoover: Jelly Bean10:03
hooverbigcalm: that's the problem... wifi is completely separate from our wired network here, so I'll *have* to try that at home ;-)10:03
moviebunHello all - having problems with Ubuntu 12.04 on a usb. When I reboot, the display either goes to sleep after the splash screen (no signal - happens on 2 base units I've tried it on) or hangs after the splash screen, returning to a black screen - (on another base and a laptop). Any suggestions please?10:03
bigcalmhoover: I see10:04
hooverIt's really annoying to see Linux devices connect to win / mac but not on Linux 8(10:04
hoover(i know it's the bloody vendor's fault ;-)10:04
moviebunThis is 12.04 installed with persistence. Have created a user account and the initial login works fine. Where it falls down is when I reboot the computer - then the display falls over.10:05
hooverbrb, lunchtime10:06
davmor2morning christel10:10
christelhi hi davmor210:11
popeyczajkowski, pong10:15
KungFuPandaanyone here know projector ? Optoma GT750 Projector ----- is it good  ?10:18
hooverback10:25
meetever since i updated my ubuntu from 11.10 to 12.04 window resizing, closing and those buttons have been acting weirdly. also the overall stability has decreased. what could be the reason? i use gnome 311:06
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andylock1anheya all12:33
brobostigonhi andylock1an12:34
andylock1anhow goes things12:35
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brobostigonnot so hot, the after affects of the heat, affecting my eczema. and you andylockran ?12:36
andylockranyeah, I have no complaints12:36
brobostigon:)12:36
livingdaylightIs anakondi part of a metapackage which is safe to remove? I doubt I have any use for it including Kontacts, and Kmail12:47
AlanBell!info warsow13:20
lubotu3Package warsow does not exist in precise13:20
AlanBellhttp://www.playdeb.net/software/Warsow doesn't appear to do anything useful, anyone else know how that is supposed to work?13:23
popeyit was13:28
popeyin oneiric13:28
popey!info warsow oneiric13:28
lubotu3warsow (source: warsow): fast paced 3D first person shooter. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.50+dfsg1-1ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 1800 kB, installed size 3444 kB13:28
* bigcalm rumbles into town13:29
gordAlanBell: its a little weird, you have to add their repository to your apt sources then you can use install this now to download (or just use the software centre)13:36
AlanBellhmm, that isn't smooth13:42
bigcalmHey, is it the weekend yet?13:49
AlanBellyes13:50
bigcalm\o/13:50
bigcalmWait a minute...13:50
bigcalmMy own friends lie to me :'(13:51
shaunoit's all relative.  it's almost the weekend on my shift rotation :)14:16
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bigcalm'tis quiet today :(15:03
bigcalmHow am I meant to procrastinate with it being so quiet?15:04
czajkowskiwork getting in the way :)15:08
davmor2bigcalm: NO IT'S NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!15:08
bigcalmdavmor2: too late, I'm being far too productive15:10
* bigcalm moves some email folders around15:10
diplo:D15:11
* diplo worked today as well15:11
diploAffecting irc time15:11
diplo:)15:11
mungojerryWFH seems to coincide with increased facebook refresh15:44
bigcalmHeh15:45
bigcalmYou could block fb via your router15:45
bigcalmDuring work hours at least15:45
diplothere are apps for that already i believe15:46
diploblocks requested sites fora  time period15:46
cliftontshi all15:48
bigcalmThe weather looks perfect for a thunderstorm. I can but dream though15:48
bigcalmAfternoon15:49
bigcalmOh, maybe we'll get some on Saturday according to BBC weather15:49
diploYou like thunder then ?15:50
bigcalmLove it15:50
bigcalmThat and lightning15:50
gordthunderstorms are great, the resulting several days of rain are not15:51
mungojerryhas anyone ever had to use tivoli storage manager?15:51
mungojerrysorry for swearing15:51
bigcalmI like it because a) I live in a house, not a tent, b) electricity cables are underground, c) VM cable is underground, d) electric skies are cool!15:52
diplomungojerry: A long  long long time ago15:55
cliftontsit always amazes me how so many people can talk so little! lol15:57
diploDepends on the day cliftonts15:58
diploSomedays you miss your text it's so busy15:58
diploOther days we're all busy with work i guess15:58
cliftontsI suppose it's the wrong time of day at the moment15:59
diployeah + home time :D15:59
dogmatic69Would there be much difference in using php vs c saving masses of data to mysql?16:00
diploDepends on source and size of data i guess dogmatic6916:00
cliftontsI have to confess to feeling rather depressed today16:01
mungojerrydiplo, ah i found my answer anyway16:01
dogmatic69diplo: its something like 2k or 3k rows every few minutes. I know it is not much for php, but its expected to grow considerably16:02
mungojerrywhich is , TSM sucks16:02
diploIt does, we looked at it and used it a little16:02
czajkowskidiplo: aye does tend to be chattier in the morning16:02
diploAnd came to the same conclusion16:02
diploOK, so having lot's of issues with Ubuntu at work atm, so.. poll what distro to try in the morning ( Could be my hardware but I really don't have time to test it / fix it on this machine )16:03
diploAnyone tried straight debian recently ?16:03
brobostigonyes, i run debian sid/unstable.16:04
Flashtekdiplo: i do16:04
diploAnd we like ?16:05
diplomany issues16:05
Flashtekdiplo: it's nice and stable on my servers :-)16:05
diploKeep meaning to try Arch, but i need stability for work and im just not getting it16:05
Flashtekdiplo: Gentoo ;-)16:05
diplotbh, all my servers are on ubuntu and fine16:05
diploThis could be hardware, but it happened directly after last upgrade.16:06
FlashtekMy laptop is on Ubuntu (Kubuntu actually)16:06
Flashtekmy Desktop PC is Gentoo16:06
Flashtekmy servers are Debian16:06
diploOne last try with this PC in the morning, then i may throw it out16:06
diplo:P16:06
FlashtekeBay ?16:07
diploMaybe... but if it is hardware issues i dunno if i can be arsed16:07
diploIt's my PC i use for work, because they are to stingy16:08
diplo:)16:08
diploright, less talk and more home!16:08
diploCatch you on line later peeps16:08
Flashtekroger16:08
christeldiplo \o/16:19
cliftontsdoes anyone here know of any 1st line support or similar jobs going anywhere?16:19
bigcalmcliftonts: PC World?16:21
christelhiya gareth16:21
cliftontsI think I'd rather starve!16:21
* christel waves at cliftonts 16:21
christelhave you checked the usual suspects like monster.com etc?16:22
cliftontsand who might you be christel? (excuse the ignorance)16:22
bigcalmFrom my limited experience, the knowledge people lack a lot. So anybody should be able to get a job there16:22
cliftontsnot yet, I tend not to have a lot of luck on those sites16:22
bigcalmchristel is your overlord16:22
cliftontsbigcalm: I'm not sure I could live with feeling that dirty16:22
bigcalm:)16:23
cliftontsI don't like it when everyone else seems to know me and I have no idea who they are. Trouble is it happens a lot16:23
* bigcalm tickles christel :)16:24
czajkowskicliftonts: jobs a job, shouldn't really bother you if it would make you feel dirty tbh16:25
czajkowskimoney is money16:25
cliftontsThat's true, it's a million miles away from where I want to be though.16:25
christelcliftonts: /3016:25
cliftontsIt'd have to be a stepping stone to other things16:25
czajkowskicliftonts: well unless you're a millionarire I suggest starting small then16:26
christelerr16:26
christelcliftonts: i was at alan's on saturday, we met briefly16:26
cliftontschristel: That narrows it down, I'd guessed that was probably the case. I'm still perplexed as to how you know it's me though16:26
cliftontsMy reputation obviously preceeds me16:27
czajkowskicliftonts: or a simple whois...16:27
czajkowskigareth, and narrow it down to how many gareths were there on Saturday16:27
czajkowskivery simple really :)16:27
cliftontsas a man with no functioning memory I'm happy to be in a state of constant bemusement. They say ignorance is bliss16:28
cliftontsnow the next two questions should be have I ever signed up to monster.com, and if so what credentials would I have chosen?16:29
cliftontswell that killed the conversation16:34
bigcalmI have gitlab running in an Ubuntu server and found it fairly straight forward to install. Has anybody here set it up on a Debian server? If so, much of a hassle to do so?16:49
cliftontsThe only jobs I can do always insist on me having A-levels or a degree, which I'll never be able to afford without the job!16:54
cliftontsSufficed to say I find this annoying!16:54
bigcalmJoin every job service there is and shot gun your CV out there16:55
bigcalmJoin agencies16:55
cliftontsI'm working on it but unfortunately I'm not really able to sell myself16:57
cliftontsI'm capable but because I didn't get along with the college course I went on I sort of got sidelined and never got IT work16:58
cliftontsI got a job in 2006 but my ex was kind enough to get me the sack!16:58
AlanBellcome and see the Ubuntu UK podcast studio https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/226b753eeff113fc0d04796f28668efdf61ea7f4?authuser=0&hl=en#17:25
diplohangouts killiung my desktop :/17:54
diploSuppose I ought to upgrade from 10.1017:54
oly_if its not a silly question where do you disable text in application toolbars ? just noticed my laptop has started showing this again but i can not find the option anymore in 12.04 :/17:55
ali1234what applicaitons?17:59
SuperEngineerembarresing... just read headline "the upcoming descent and landing of Mars rover Curiosity onto the Red planet"18:07
SuperEngineeras "the upcoming descent and landing of Mars rover Curiosity onto the Red Hat planet"18:07
SuperEngineercome on brain - stop it!18:08
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brobostigongood night everyone, sleep well.21:13
zleapnite21:13
brobostigongood nigt zleap21:13
n1md4can sometest my irssi setting by quitting and joining again? :)22:00
n1md4In fact, don't worry, it's not worked :(22:00
Azelphurpopey: is it ok if I post a rather long list of used stuff I'm selling in here? (It's just a bit.ly link to a spreadsheet :P)22:00
* popey shrugs22:01
Azelphurlots of computer related gear, jogglers, etc, just old stuff that I want to upgrade or don't use any more that people in here will probably want xD22:01
Azelphurhttp://bit.ly/M6vnzo there we go, lots of things22:01
bigcalmMy better half would not be happy if I were to buy more tech junk22:02
n1md4880GT?22:02
Azelphurhehe, my stuff isn't too junky, I tend to upgrade fairly often22:02
Azelphurn1md4: 8800GT, see the note and price22:02
bigcalmShe wouldn't see it that way22:03
n1md4oh wait, yes ;D22:03
Azelphurthat's the one that randomly melted :(22:03
n1md4I'll take that for pnp only!22:03
n1md4I've an idea22:03
Azelphurhehe22:04
* Azelphur ponders how much royal mail charges for postage22:04
Seeker`Azelphur: sold the FPGA already?22:04
n1md4hmmm 10 ...22:04
AzelphurSeeker`: nope22:05
Seeker`how much?22:05
AzelphurI paid $120 for it and it's pretty much just been opened and looked at, so probably £60+pnp?22:05
ali1234are those the iiyamas that randomly turn off?22:06
Azelphurali1234: they stopped doing that and havn't done it in years, I think perhaps it was a GPU/Power issue22:06
ali1234i will take that broken nvidia22:07
Azelphurhaha, competition :p22:08
AzelphurI think n1md4 already laid claim to it22:08
ali1234fair enough22:08
ali1234after market coolers are way better than the stock ones anyway22:08
ali1234i don't think i'll ever use a stock cooler again on a high end card22:08
Azelphurif it even works, I have no idea if it actually works at all22:08
ali1234they have thermal shutdown22:08
Azelphurdo remember the thing got hot enough to literally melt the fan on it22:08
Azelphurfun22:09
ali1234selling the fan controller? didn't you only just buy it?22:09
n1md4Azelphur: would be still interested, sorry ali1234 :\22:09
Azelphurali1234: nah that's my old fan controller, I got USB ones now22:10
ali1234would be interested in the fpga board too22:10
Azelphurhehe FPGA is up for grabs, Seeker` is interested in that too22:10
ali1234i dunno... i have too much junk already22:11
ali1234unfortunately non of it is saleable22:11
n1md4Don't we all?!?  That's the way :D22:11
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Azelphurhehe22:12
ali1234quite a lot of it has "NOT FOR RESALE" stamped on it22:14
AzelphurI resell things that say not for resale on them http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/508/watch-out-we-got-a-badass-over-here-meme.png22:14
dogmatic69Anyone know why swap would be at 2.1gb (60%) when ram has 2gig spare22:22
Seeker`Azelphur: you haven't plugged the FPGA in to one of your exploding USB ports of doom, have you?22:25
AzelphurSeeker`: nope, and my USB ports arn't exploding of doom :(22:25
Seeker`tell that to the Arduinos you slaughtered mercilessly!22:26
Azelphurhaha22:26
AzelphurSeeker`: I'm 99% sure that was PEBCAK/Software issue22:26
Seeker`haha22:26
Azelphurbaring in mind I don't have a clue22:26
ali1234you should get the new arduino that doesn't have the ftdi chip22:26
ali1234it's impossible to break it22:27
Seeker`don't say that22:27
Azelphurhaha22:27
Seeker`it isn't exactly easy to destroy older arduinos22:27
ali1234it is if you reprogram the ftdi to use external xtal22:27
ali1234which is the only way i can see how it could have broken in the way it did22:28
Seeker`NO! DAMN YOU PEER!22:42
Azelphurpeer strikes again22:44
directhexgoddamn pears23:01
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