[03:56] <Azelphur> ali1234: while your around, you know how I can add a key to apt?
[03:56] <ali1234> apt-add-key or something
[03:56] <ali1234> apt-key add <keyfile>
[03:57] <Azelphur> ali1234: I don't have a keyfile, only "C697D823EB0AB654"
[03:57] <Azelphur> the site just gives me a repo and when I run apt-get update it complains with that
[03:57] <ali1234> what repo?
[03:58] <Azelphur> deb http://download.jitsi.org/nightly/deb unstable/
[03:58] <ali1234> jitsi?
[03:58] <Azelphur> yep
[03:58] <Azelphur> :P
[03:58] <ali1234> google for the key, get answer
[05:39] <christel> good morning
[05:41] <MartijnVdS> \o
[05:56] <christel> hellloooooo MartijnVdS \o
[06:19] <ali1234> hmmmm
[06:20] <ali1234> how do i know if someone is doing that "apachekiller" attack on a webserver?
[06:22] <ali1234> the log is just full of "::1 - - [31/Jul/2012:02:43:16 +0100] "OPTIONS * HTTP/1.0" 200 - "-" "Apache (internal dummy connection)""
[06:25] <ali1234> hmm :/
[06:26] <mattt> that's your localhost
[06:26] <mattt> (127.0.0.1)
[06:27] <ali1234> wait
[06:27] <ali1234> i see the problem
[06:27] <mattt> WHYUDOSEYERSELF?
[06:27] <ali1234> when i type my website into firefox and hit enter it's putting "https" on the front instead of "http"
[06:27] <ali1234> server is not setup for https
[06:32] <ali1234> why is it doing this?
[07:18] <diplo> Morning all
[07:19] <knightwise> morning everyone
[07:23] <nja> Morning knightwise
[07:30] <knightwise> hey nja , how are you doing today ?
[07:31] <nja> knightwise: Not bad
[07:31] <nja> Been coding for 2 hours now and feel like I've done nothing.
[07:31] <knightwise> Lol , know what you mean
[07:32] <knightwise> i've been stuck in friggin outlook all morning
[07:32] <nja> knightwise: Microsoft product.  'nuff said.
[07:33] <knightwise> Yeah
[07:33] <knightwise> Got 12.04 running on my MbPro :)
[07:33] <knightwise> Muuuuch better :p
[07:33] <knightwise> Now all I need is an app to record friggin Skype
[07:33] <ali1234> skype uses pulseaudio
[07:34] <ali1234> record it like you record anything that uses pulse
[07:34] <knightwise> So straight in Audacity ?
[07:35] <ali1234> probably
[07:37] <knightwise> hmm.. should take a look at that
[07:37] <jacobw> nja: don't worry, i've spent whole days coding and realised that i've actually implementing anything apart from a perfectly useless abstraction of what i had before
[07:38] <nja> jacobw: I'm doing lots of non visible tweaks, that's probably it.
[07:40] <knightwise> Grr .. I just wish my Macbook Trackpad wasnt so darn sensitive
[07:54] <knightwise> popey : Do you have the same problem where your trackpad on your macbook pro is supersensitive under Ubuntu ?
[07:54] <popey> yes and no
[07:54] <popey> yes, I did, and no, I don't run Ubuntu on it anymore
[07:54] <knightwise> Whow ! You switched back to OsX   ?  Now i'm stunned !
[07:57] <directhex> i don't like osx. it's smelly, like from a bum
[07:57] <ali1234> +1
[07:58] <knightwise> Mountain lion is not that great
[07:58] <knightwise> little bit "Meh"
[07:59] <directhex> see also: lion, snow leopard, leopard, and earlier
[07:59] <directhex> i gave up remembering what constitutes "earlier". i think there's a panther and a lynx somewhere
[07:59] <christel> 022..33033.363.3,63..3,63
[07:59] <christel> ,,
[07:59] <christel> sorry ,small child
[08:00] <MartijnVdS> christel: http://www.youtube.com/numberphile
[08:02] <knightwise> I must say , dual booting a macbook pro with 8 gigs of ram and both an SSD and 'spinning' drive under 1204 does make for one fast machine
[08:13] <jacobw> morning
[08:13] <nja> Morning jacobw!
[08:20] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:20] <nja> Hello czajkowski
[08:24] <hoover_> morning all
[08:25] <hoover> anyone sucessfully using a galaxy S3 with 12.04?
[08:25] <hoover> The device comes up in Unity 2d, but all dirs are empty
[08:27] <czajkowski> nja: oh well done no  @ before nick :)
[08:27] <nja> :D
[08:30] <hoover> I've also tried using the PTP protocol on the s3, no luck 8(
[08:33] <livingdaylight> gm all
[08:34] <hoover> mornin
[08:35] <livingdaylight> got Olympic archery in the background
[08:36] <livingdaylight> I was just thinking, instead of shooting at silly target it would be way more entertaining if they had someone at the other end with an apple on their head
[08:36] <jjcool37> Hello!
[08:36] <livingdaylight> Then I discovered this: http://www.devppl.com/flash-game/apple-shooter/
[08:38] <dwatkins> livingdaylight: that's a nice little game, reminds me of the tank games I used to play on the BBC Micro
[08:38] <dwatkins> less manual editing of the angle and force, though...
[08:40] <livingdaylight> Hit apple on second attempt! LoL
[08:40]  * livingdaylight gives himself a gold medal \o/
[08:42] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:42] <hoover> morning biggie
[08:44] <bigcalm> Howdy hoovie
[08:53] <bigcalm> YouTube have been pestering me to monetise my account. I had no idea that anybody was looking at my videos
[08:54] <bigcalm> Haha, it's a minecraft video I made. Figures
[08:55] <popey> :)
[08:55] <bigcalm> Which means it's hellishly out of date now
[08:56] <gord> i used to get those but then i got a copyright infringement thing and had to go to copyright school and now i don't think they want me anymore, so i suggest doing that
[08:56] <bigcalm> I click the button to enable and it says no
[08:56]  * bigcalm shrugs and gets on with life
[08:59] <JamesTait> Good morning all! :)
[08:59] <JamesTait> Looks like summer's back!
[09:00] <bigcalm> Seasonal rain and generally grey? Yep :)
[09:00] <gord> turns out my new monthly data limit resets on midnight tonight, so i'm downloading as much internet as i can at 10mb/s, so a lot of internet
[09:00] <gord> uh MB/s
[09:06]  * JamesTait sighs
[09:06] <JamesTait> I had the great idea of connecting my external monitor to my laptop and having Olympic coverage running on it.
[09:07] <JamesTait> nvidia seem to have different ideas.
[09:15] <n1md4> 1
[09:15] <n1md4> gah! ignore that
[09:15]  * n1md4 curses screen!
[09:15] <n1md4> I'm sure these occassional typos are nothing to do with dvorak ^^
[09:18] <jacobw> i tried dvorak, then i tried to use vim, then i gave up on dvorak
[09:19] <mungojerry> ncurses screen?
[09:26] <n1md4> jacobw: persist, it all makes sense eventually ;)  Although, you know, it's all about vi ... on that note, as a vim user you'd have been more than happy with your arrow keys, no? };->
[09:27] <n1md4> mungojerry: yeah, meta-" then the window number, sometimes I miss the " :\
[09:32] <KungFuPanda> morning guys
[09:32] <KungFuPanda> anyone knows why my vi editor, not going to INSERT mode ? when I press "Esc" then "i" .
[09:35] <jjcool37> Wassssaaaaaappppp
[09:36] <bigcalm> KungFuPanda: i == insert
[09:36] <bigcalm> r would be used for replace
[09:36] <bigcalm> Oh, _not_ going into
[09:36]  * bigcalm should learn to read
[09:39] <KungFuPanda> :P
[09:40] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[09:41]  * mungojerry is trying to WFH again
[09:42] <hoover> good morning brobostigon
[09:42] <brobostigon> good morning hoover
[09:42] <hoover> Anyone here using a galaxy s3 /w precise?
[09:43]  * brobostigon is pleased with the nexus7 so far. and likes watching tv on the hd screen.
[09:43] <hoover> I like the phone too, but didn't investigate enough before I ordered it (work phone)
[09:43] <mungojerry> n7 seems incredibly popular
[09:44] <dogmatic69> Is there a way to stop mounted things showing in nautilus?
[09:44] <KungFuPanda> all right, it does go into INSERT MODE, it just not display the "INSERT MODE" information in the bottom line, do not know why
[09:44] <hoover> seems there's nothing  but trouble re: s3 <-> 12.04
[09:44] <hoover> hey biggie
[09:47] <KungFuPanda> just installed vim instead, much better
[09:50] <bigcalm> Hello again hoovie?
[09:50] <czajkowski> popey: ping
[09:51] <bigcalm> hoover: I have both an sgs3 and Ubuntu 12.04. The only way I connect the two is via AirDroid
[09:55] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:56] <czajkowski> davmor2: ello
[09:57] <davmor2> czajkowski: morning sweetness and light.......oh wait no the other evil and darkness I always get them confused ;)
[09:58] <davmor2> czajkowski: how are you?
[09:58] <czajkowski> good thanks
[09:58] <czajkowski> :)
[09:59] <hoover> bigcalm: thanks for the info biggie
[09:59] <hoover> so mtp mode isn't working for you, either?
[09:59] <gord> tempted to ponk down the money for that silly google tablet, but can't actually come up with any uses for such a device
[10:00] <bigcalm> I've not bothered to connect it via any other means
[10:00] <hoover> bigcalm: is this a free app?
[10:01] <bigcalm> Yes
[10:01] <hoover> Ok, thanks, I'll look into it
[10:01]  * christel hugs czajkowski and bigcalm 
[10:01] <hoover> could be a problem at work though where the WLAN is separated from the internal network
[10:01]  * bigcalm squeezes christel
[10:02] <czajkowski> hmm since I upgraded to JB I cannot get my phone to work on 12.04 in fact
[10:02] <bigcalm> hoover: doesn't require internet access
[10:02] <czajkowski> annoying
[10:02] <czajkowski> christel: herrrro
[10:02] <christel> hi sugar
[10:02] <hoover> JB?
[10:02] <bigcalm> hoover: as long as your phone can get an IP address from your internal network
[10:03] <hoover> Ah, jellybean
[10:03] <bigcalm> hoover: Jelly Bean
[10:03] <hoover> bigcalm: that's the problem... wifi is completely separate from our wired network here, so I'll *have* to try that at home ;-)
[10:03] <moviebun> Hello all - having problems with Ubuntu 12.04 on a usb. When I reboot, the display either goes to sleep after the splash screen (no signal - happens on 2 base units I've tried it on) or hangs after the splash screen, returning to a black screen - (on another base and a laptop). Any suggestions please?
[10:04] <bigcalm> hoover: I see
[10:04] <hoover> It's really annoying to see Linux devices connect to win / mac but not on Linux 8(
[10:04] <hoover> (i know it's the bloody vendor's fault ;-)
[10:05] <moviebun> This is 12.04 installed with persistence. Have created a user account and the initial login works fine. Where it falls down is when I reboot the computer - then the display falls over.
[10:06] <hoover> brb, lunchtime
[10:10] <davmor2> morning christel
[10:11] <christel> hi hi davmor2
[10:15] <popey> czajkowski, pong
[10:18] <KungFuPanda> anyone here know projector ? Optoma GT750 Projector ----- is it good  ?
[10:25] <hoover> back
[11:06] <meet> ever since i updated my ubuntu from 11.10 to 12.04 window resizing, closing and those buttons have been acting weirdly. also the overall stability has decreased. what could be the reason? i use gnome 3
[12:33] <andylock1an> heya all
[12:34] <brobostigon> hi andylock1an
[12:35] <andylock1an> how goes things
[12:36] <brobostigon> not so hot, the after affects of the heat, affecting my eczema. and you andylockran ?
[12:36] <andylockran> yeah, I have no complaints
[12:36] <brobostigon> :)
[12:47] <livingdaylight> Is anakondi part of a metapackage which is safe to remove? I doubt I have any use for it including Kontacts, and Kmail
[13:20] <AlanBell> !info warsow
[13:23] <AlanBell> http://www.playdeb.net/software/Warsow doesn't appear to do anything useful, anyone else know how that is supposed to work?
[13:28] <popey> it was
[13:28] <popey> in oneiric
[13:28] <popey> !info warsow oneiric
[13:29]  * bigcalm rumbles into town
[13:36] <gord> AlanBell: its a little weird, you have to add their repository to your apt sources then you can use install this now to download (or just use the software centre)
[13:42] <AlanBell> hmm, that isn't smooth
[13:49] <bigcalm> Hey, is it the weekend yet?
[13:50] <AlanBell> yes
[13:50] <bigcalm> \o/
[13:50] <bigcalm> Wait a minute...
[13:51] <bigcalm> My own friends lie to me :'(
[14:16] <shauno> it's all relative.  it's almost the weekend on my shift rotation :)
[15:03] <bigcalm> 'tis quiet today :(
[15:04] <bigcalm> How am I meant to procrastinate with it being so quiet?
[15:08] <czajkowski> work getting in the way :)
[15:08] <davmor2> bigcalm: NO IT'S NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[15:10] <bigcalm> davmor2: too late, I'm being far too productive
[15:10]  * bigcalm moves some email folders around
[15:11] <diplo> :D
[15:11]  * diplo worked today as well
[15:11] <diplo> Affecting irc time
[15:11] <diplo> :)
[15:44] <mungojerry> WFH seems to coincide with increased facebook refresh
[15:45] <bigcalm> Heh
[15:45] <bigcalm> You could block fb via your router
[15:45] <bigcalm> During work hours at least
[15:46] <diplo> there are apps for that already i believe
[15:46] <diplo> blocks requested sites fora  time period
[15:48] <cliftonts> hi all
[15:48] <bigcalm> The weather looks perfect for a thunderstorm. I can but dream though
[15:49] <bigcalm> Afternoon
[15:49] <bigcalm> Oh, maybe we'll get some on Saturday according to BBC weather
[15:50] <diplo> You like thunder then ?
[15:50] <bigcalm> Love it
[15:50] <bigcalm> That and lightning
[15:51] <gord> thunderstorms are great, the resulting several days of rain are not
[15:51] <mungojerry> has anyone ever had to use tivoli storage manager?
[15:51] <mungojerry> sorry for swearing
[15:52] <bigcalm> I like it because a) I live in a house, not a tent, b) electricity cables are underground, c) VM cable is underground, d) electric skies are cool!
[15:55] <diplo> mungojerry: A long  long long time ago
[15:57] <cliftonts> it always amazes me how so many people can talk so little! lol
[15:58] <diplo> Depends on the day cliftonts
[15:58] <diplo> Somedays you miss your text it's so busy
[15:58] <diplo> Other days we're all busy with work i guess
[15:59] <cliftonts> I suppose it's the wrong time of day at the moment
[15:59] <diplo> yeah + home time :D
[16:00] <dogmatic69> Would there be much difference in using php vs c saving masses of data to mysql?
[16:00] <diplo> Depends on source and size of data i guess dogmatic69
[16:01] <cliftonts> I have to confess to feeling rather depressed today
[16:01] <mungojerry> diplo, ah i found my answer anyway
[16:02] <dogmatic69> diplo: its something like 2k or 3k rows every few minutes. I know it is not much for php, but its expected to grow considerably
[16:02] <mungojerry> which is , TSM sucks
[16:02] <diplo> It does, we looked at it and used it a little
[16:02] <czajkowski> diplo: aye does tend to be chattier in the morning
[16:02] <diplo> And came to the same conclusion
[16:03] <diplo> OK, so having lot's of issues with Ubuntu at work atm, so.. poll what distro to try in the morning ( Could be my hardware but I really don't have time to test it / fix it on this machine )
[16:03] <diplo> Anyone tried straight debian recently ?
[16:04] <brobostigon> yes, i run debian sid/unstable.
[16:04] <Flashtek> diplo: i do
[16:05] <diplo> And we like ?
[16:05] <diplo> many issues
[16:05] <Flashtek> diplo: it's nice and stable on my servers :-)
[16:05] <diplo> Keep meaning to try Arch, but i need stability for work and im just not getting it
[16:05] <Flashtek> diplo: Gentoo ;-)
[16:05] <diplo> tbh, all my servers are on ubuntu and fine
[16:06] <diplo> This could be hardware, but it happened directly after last upgrade.
[16:06] <Flashtek> My laptop is on Ubuntu (Kubuntu actually)
[16:06] <Flashtek> my Desktop PC is Gentoo
[16:06] <Flashtek> my servers are Debian
[16:06] <diplo> One last try with this PC in the morning, then i may throw it out
[16:06] <diplo> :P
[16:07] <Flashtek> eBay ?
[16:07] <diplo> Maybe... but if it is hardware issues i dunno if i can be arsed
[16:08] <diplo> It's my PC i use for work, because they are to stingy
[16:08] <diplo> :)
[16:08] <diplo> right, less talk and more home!
[16:08] <diplo> Catch you on line later peeps
[16:08] <Flashtek> roger
[16:19] <christel> diplo \o/
[16:19] <cliftonts> does anyone here know of any 1st line support or similar jobs going anywhere?
[16:21] <bigcalm> cliftonts: PC World?
[16:21] <christel> hiya gareth
[16:21] <cliftonts> I think I'd rather starve!
[16:21]  * christel waves at cliftonts 
[16:22] <christel> have you checked the usual suspects like monster.com etc?
[16:22] <cliftonts> and who might you be christel? (excuse the ignorance)
[16:22] <bigcalm> From my limited experience, the knowledge people lack a lot. So anybody should be able to get a job there
[16:22] <cliftonts> not yet, I tend not to have a lot of luck on those sites
[16:22] <bigcalm> christel is your overlord
[16:22] <cliftonts> bigcalm: I'm not sure I could live with feeling that dirty
[16:23] <bigcalm> :)
[16:23] <cliftonts> I don't like it when everyone else seems to know me and I have no idea who they are. Trouble is it happens a lot
[16:24]  * bigcalm tickles christel :)
[16:25] <czajkowski> cliftonts: jobs a job, shouldn't really bother you if it would make you feel dirty tbh
[16:25] <czajkowski> money is money
[16:25] <cliftonts> That's true, it's a million miles away from where I want to be though.
[16:25] <christel> cliftonts: /30
[16:25] <cliftonts> It'd have to be a stepping stone to other things
[16:26] <czajkowski> cliftonts: well unless you're a millionarire I suggest starting small then
[16:26] <christel> err
[16:26] <christel> cliftonts: i was at alan's on saturday, we met briefly
[16:26] <cliftonts> christel: That narrows it down, I'd guessed that was probably the case. I'm still perplexed as to how you know it's me though
[16:27] <cliftonts> My reputation obviously preceeds me
[16:27] <czajkowski> cliftonts: or a simple whois...
[16:27] <czajkowski> gareth, and narrow it down to how many gareths were there on Saturday
[16:27] <czajkowski> very simple really :)
[16:28] <cliftonts> as a man with no functioning memory I'm happy to be in a state of constant bemusement. They say ignorance is bliss
[16:29] <cliftonts> now the next two questions should be have I ever signed up to monster.com, and if so what credentials would I have chosen?
[16:34] <cliftonts> well that killed the conversation
[16:49] <bigcalm> I have gitlab running in an Ubuntu server and found it fairly straight forward to install. Has anybody here set it up on a Debian server? If so, much of a hassle to do so?
[16:54] <cliftonts> The only jobs I can do always insist on me having A-levels or a degree, which I'll never be able to afford without the job!
[16:54] <cliftonts> Sufficed to say I find this annoying!
[16:55] <bigcalm> Join every job service there is and shot gun your CV out there
[16:55] <bigcalm> Join agencies
[16:57] <cliftonts> I'm working on it but unfortunately I'm not really able to sell myself
[16:58] <cliftonts> I'm capable but because I didn't get along with the college course I went on I sort of got sidelined and never got IT work
[16:58] <cliftonts> I got a job in 2006 but my ex was kind enough to get me the sack!
[17:25] <AlanBell> come and see the Ubuntu UK podcast studio https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/226b753eeff113fc0d04796f28668efdf61ea7f4?authuser=0&hl=en#
[17:54] <diplo> hangouts killiung my desktop :/
[17:54] <diplo> Suppose I ought to upgrade from 10.10
[17:55] <oly_> if its not a silly question where do you disable text in application toolbars ? just noticed my laptop has started showing this again but i can not find the option anymore in 12.04 :/
[17:59] <ali1234> what applicaitons?
[18:07] <SuperEngineer> embarresing... just read headline "the upcoming descent and landing of Mars rover Curiosity onto the Red planet"
[18:07] <SuperEngineer> as "the upcoming descent and landing of Mars rover Curiosity onto the Red Hat planet"
[18:08] <SuperEngineer> come on brain - stop it!
[21:13] <brobostigon> good night everyone, sleep well.
[21:13] <zleap> nite
[21:13] <brobostigon> good nigt zleap
[22:00] <n1md4> can sometest my irssi setting by quitting and joining again? :)
[22:00] <n1md4> In fact, don't worry, it's not worked :(
[22:00] <Azelphur> popey: is it ok if I post a rather long list of used stuff I'm selling in here? (It's just a bit.ly link to a spreadsheet :P)
[22:01]  * popey shrugs
[22:01] <Azelphur> lots of computer related gear, jogglers, etc, just old stuff that I want to upgrade or don't use any more that people in here will probably want xD
[22:01] <Azelphur> http://bit.ly/M6vnzo there we go, lots of things
[22:02] <bigcalm> My better half would not be happy if I were to buy more tech junk
[22:02] <n1md4> 880GT?
[22:02] <Azelphur> hehe, my stuff isn't too junky, I tend to upgrade fairly often
[22:02] <Azelphur> n1md4: 8800GT, see the note and price
[22:03] <bigcalm> She wouldn't see it that way
[22:03] <n1md4> oh wait, yes ;D
[22:03] <Azelphur> that's the one that randomly melted :(
[22:03] <n1md4> I'll take that for pnp only!
[22:03] <n1md4> I've an idea
[22:04] <Azelphur> hehe
[22:04]  * Azelphur ponders how much royal mail charges for postage
[22:04] <Seeker`> Azelphur: sold the FPGA already?
[22:04] <n1md4> hmmm 10 ...
[22:05] <Azelphur> Seeker`: nope
[22:05] <Seeker`> how much?
[22:05] <Azelphur> I paid $120 for it and it's pretty much just been opened and looked at, so probably £60+pnp?
[22:06] <ali1234> are those the iiyamas that randomly turn off?
[22:06] <Azelphur> ali1234: they stopped doing that and havn't done it in years, I think perhaps it was a GPU/Power issue
[22:07] <ali1234> i will take that broken nvidia
[22:08] <Azelphur> haha, competition :p
[22:08] <Azelphur> I think n1md4 already laid claim to it
[22:08] <ali1234> fair enough
[22:08] <ali1234> after market coolers are way better than the stock ones anyway
[22:08] <ali1234> i don't think i'll ever use a stock cooler again on a high end card
[22:08] <Azelphur> if it even works, I have no idea if it actually works at all
[22:08] <ali1234> they have thermal shutdown
[22:08] <Azelphur> do remember the thing got hot enough to literally melt the fan on it
[22:09] <Azelphur> fun
[22:09] <ali1234> selling the fan controller? didn't you only just buy it?
[22:09] <n1md4> Azelphur: would be still interested, sorry ali1234 :\
[22:10] <Azelphur> ali1234: nah that's my old fan controller, I got USB ones now
[22:10] <ali1234> would be interested in the fpga board too
[22:10] <Azelphur> hehe FPGA is up for grabs, Seeker` is interested in that too
[22:11] <ali1234> i dunno... i have too much junk already
[22:11] <ali1234> unfortunately non of it is saleable
[22:11] <n1md4> Don't we all?!?  That's the way :D
[22:12] <Azelphur> hehe
[22:14] <ali1234> quite a lot of it has "NOT FOR RESALE" stamped on it
[22:14] <Azelphur> I resell things that say not for resale on them http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/508/watch-out-we-got-a-badass-over-here-meme.png
[22:22] <dogmatic69> Anyone know why swap would be at 2.1gb (60%) when ram has 2gig spare
[22:25] <Seeker`> Azelphur: you haven't plugged the FPGA in to one of your exploding USB ports of doom, have you?
[22:25] <Azelphur> Seeker`: nope, and my USB ports arn't exploding of doom :(
[22:26] <Seeker`> tell that to the Arduinos you slaughtered mercilessly!
[22:26] <Azelphur> haha
[22:26] <Azelphur> Seeker`: I'm 99% sure that was PEBCAK/Software issue
[22:26] <Seeker`> haha
[22:26] <Azelphur> baring in mind I don't have a clue
[22:26] <ali1234> you should get the new arduino that doesn't have the ftdi chip
[22:27] <ali1234> it's impossible to break it
[22:27] <Seeker`> don't say that
[22:27] <Azelphur> haha
[22:27] <Seeker`> it isn't exactly easy to destroy older arduinos
[22:27] <ali1234> it is if you reprogram the ftdi to use external xtal
[22:28] <ali1234> which is the only way i can see how it could have broken in the way it did
[22:42] <Seeker`> NO! DAMN YOU PEER!
[22:44] <Azelphur> peer strikes again
[23:01] <directhex> goddamn pears